The Alecto deserves to be on this list having the 3rd best camo in the game. Even better than the Elc and E25. That tank is the E25 at tier 4 with just as punchy of a 6pounder and decent dpm for its tier. Best seal clubbers at tier 4 imo
He never finnished hes tangent about why the E 25 has so much cammo after firing. The reason is because at one point in the game, all TD's had a class bonus that made them keep more of their cammo after firing. When they removed the class bonus they didn't do it for the premium TD's. The SU 122-44 is also a very old tank that has this bonus. It doesn't have nearly as much base cammo as the E 25 though. Edit: Yellow view port doesn't reduce view range.
I have the 122-44, even with it having worse camo than E25, the old class bonus can be pretty outrageous sometimes. I can shoot at people from insanely close without getting spotted
@@g.d.graham2446 I assume you are asking about yellow view port. It does nothing. Your view range is only reduced if it becomes destroyed/red. Yellow fuel tank also does nothing. Though, it is good to repair it because if it get's destroyed, you get set on fire.
@@QuickyBabyTV yeah and that also boost after fire % udes endgame i usually work that small hill bush u were on and u wouldnt be spoted, also bush is huge they would get u with blind fire. I really like my udes
Thanks, I learned a lot about the tanks that are consistently killing me. A lot of the time I don't even know where the kill shot came from. It really helps to understand the mechanics of tanks I don't typically play.
Over the years I've continuously noted quickybaby detailing the same mistakes when talking about camouflage in WoTs. I don't know if anyone will notice this but I just want to help and clarify one important detail. Since 50m away is an auto detect, the game calculations for view range > camouflage is considered a 0 to be simple, and the % of camo starts reducing from view range from there on. So if you have 500m view range against a 50% camo tank, it's not 250m view range needed but it's more 275m, cause it's 450m minus 50% in the calculations. Hope this helps.
I know right. With the proper setup, your camo is 55 while not sitting in a bush, you can pretty much get 500 viewrange and also reduce the camo of bushed /moving enemy tanks. If you position yourself well with that, literally only a yoloing fast tank can counter you.
I followed your advice on the build for the ELC EVEN 90 and a couple battles after doing what I can of the build (didn't have everything and my crew was trained for spotting), I managed to bring down a spotting damage of 3,383 in one battle. This is the best I have ever done for spotting. Thank you sir, I am loving this tiny tank.
Should had mentioned the American tier 7 Scorpion . The Camo Rating is through the roof on that tank .. Had a lot of enemies Bewildered on my location when I was playing this tank. But good video QB .
The E25 is indeed called "Cockroach" because of how this thing is really a big, pesky thing that you can't kill that easily. Plus it has a really broken camo and preferential matchmaking, I absolutely hate seeing this in the matchmaker.
Was playing maybe a year ago my su-130pm on the map Karelia. I think, i was in the Quadrant B3, hiding behind a big rockpile closer to the swamp area and me and my teammates were everytime spotted, when we moved north and i was like: WTF is spotting us, saw only 3 small overgrown grassturfs western of my position. Loaded HE and fired one HE-Shell in each of this turfs, in the third one was an ELC Even 90, only 80m away. That was creepy, since this battle i have in my loadout 6 HE-Shells reserved, only for blindfiring into suspected ELC hideyholes.
My E25 has a stationary camo rating of 69.3. If I'm in a bush, I can have tanks 51 meters away and they can't see me. I once won a game by hiding in a bush in a cap circle. The enemy entered the cap circle with just a couple seconds left on the timer. He still couldn't see me!!!
Great video! Loving the long form. Would like a refresher/beginners tips and tricks, and or setup video for now rather than a few years back, as a lot has changed.
QB, about UDES 03, that speed isn't a problem when you do the bush trick and aren't ever spotted EVEN while firing, this vehicle can keep firing unspotted until about 250-300 meters with 69% conceal as far as I've observed from playing with it.
Not playing CVS on LT is just pointless if you go for sneaky 'If' the enemy uses CVS (including support mediums) your LT will lose its benefit for on the move camo. I will be happy to meet an elc even without CVS because I will outspot them even on my Bourrasque with camo setup (Exp optics/CVS in scout slot/Bounty Exhaust) because the CVS will even out our camo on the move and with the extra viewrange the Borat actually wins the spotting early game on the move to a spot caviat is that the elc will have to be on the move, so if the elc just sits in a bush you wont win it. CVS is one of the best equipments to use and tier 7 not having it makes any lt lower than 8 a fake lt I can rant about this for hours I guess :P
Im also grinding the french light line and everything below Tier 8 without CVS fells just boring because you have to get to proxie range for camping tds
Hi QB :) On UDES 03 you can get 75,57% of camo - just use scouting slot from field modifications and put there camo net. And with bond vents it can even increase to 76.14% :)
I liked it, i wouldn't be mad about a whole line of videos, stealth for dummies, armor for dummies and so on, how to use it, who got the best, how to maximize it and so on.
So.... nobody mentioning the Italian tier 5 Semovente TD? With fully skilled crew and a camo net, this thing gets 67% camo when stationary and 33% when moving! Oh and we can of course pump that higher by putting on a bond vent and adding the vent purge directive to give us... 69.69% and 34.42% respectively! Even firing from stationary gives us 18% - not too shoddy at all.
QB, the Udes 03 would really eat up the enemy team if you were in the tree/bush about 20 meters behind you towards the end of that match. It is also a fabulous tank for passive spotting, when the team doesn't have a LT.
As a player with about 12k games that stopped playing years ago, I feel l get a double dose of enjoyment watching. First because i can apreciate the skill and second because l see so many things added to the game that I was lucky to avoid :-)
Back when I played WoT (I stopped between the French wheeled light tanks and Equipment 2.0), and I was excellent in French light tanks because I understood how camo and view range worked. The ELC Even 90 was defintely one of the ones I meshed with well (along with the 13 90), but I was nothing short of elite in the 13 57. I would frequently punch in >5k spotting games and occasionally get top of the team and ace tankers without doing a single hitpoint of damage. Iirc I was well within the top 30 on EU in 13 57 assistance damage for quite some time
Gamers like Quickybaby don't realize that ordinary people can't afford to equip their tanks with Bond equipment, food , or have 6 skills crew . Play a vanilla tank to see how it performs.
Only thing holding back the ELC is that it needs a good team to influence games, I as a regular ELC player can say that most of the times you do everything right, but until your team can hit their shots, you will not influence the game in almost any way, you will only slow it down because enemy players will not be so aggresive knowing that there is an ELC in a bush. Edit: I actually hate LT432 way more, because it is reasonably stealthy, has a good gun, good armor. It is like a faster stealthy medium, able to influence games by itself
Am I the only one thinking that Even 90 is completely disrupting tier 8 light tank meta? Like, playing any other LT than Even 90 is just giving my team a disadvantage as even 90 will always outperform me in a spotting game. Then I'm just playing in an inferior MT or shut down immediately because even 90 has already got into that advance spot while I'm still trying to get there. I don't know. Not playing even 90 just seems pointless these days.
You can kinda counter it when u play wheeled vehicles and yolo push him out of the bush if u know in which he is. But other than that I completely agree with you
yes and no, you need to change play style to survive the early game against an ELC and be less aggressive in spotting. I've foudn that msot maps have 2 "basic" early spot locations, one 1/3rd of the map in, and 1 and say 40% with a no mans land in the middle. now the ELC can make the 40% every time, i find when i play in my ELC, i meet the enemy ELC in his opposing 40% bush. If he has CVS we see each other, if not i see him and usually it doesn't matter because my team don't kill him. If I'm in any of my other lights, i go to the 1/3rd bush point, and i wait, let him come, you can outspot ELC on the move with the help of a bush in most other lights. from there, you need to advance, alternatively if no bueno after a minute of not spotting the ELC or he turns up on another flank, move to counter or move to be on opposite map side to drive a flank against a none spotting enemy... Of all the tanks breaking tier 8, the ELC aint it. In fact, its one of the more balanced lights when you consider Skoda 56, shrek, and others, in so much as it actually packs enough punch rolling up on it isn't a free lunch.
QB, I'm screaming at my monitor right now, 13:35, just knock down the tree man!! The enemy team would have a way harder time spotting you my guy! Try it next time
I'm a firm believer that even 90 needs nerfing. it's like if enemy gets an even 90 and you get a tech-tree or lesser Prem LT you will pretty much lose if spotting matters in the map.
Wasn't it you QuackyBaby who first reviewed ELC Even 90 and had completely missed the point about its extreme stealth and later you understood why people love to play this tank? Now you are a believer too!
In my S1 TD I use the net, binos, and turbo. And if I am needed to counter spot things or act as a late game scout, as long as I'm not firing they cannot spot me and will be lit like crazy. It's still capable of fighting without the vents IMO.
Not bush bonus, but firing, what I was trying to suggest is that even firing in a bush with 26% is similar to other tanks moving into a bush. That's how crazy it is.
with manticore/Elc you can go SW corner on Chinese Wall (heavy flank). there is some tons of bushes right in the corner, you can use them to permspot just every heavy if they start to rush that side. or just casually drive through enemy lines, 53m away from them
Hi QB, Try this build for the E25 for equipment: Bounty Exhaust, Bond Vents and Bounty rammer. It's a stupidly good light tank with 64% camo with the directive.
I love the Even 90 for the simple reason that others hate it. It means I can be a pain in the butt to Bourasques that spam premium ammo. I’ve earned some good credits just by spotting and enjoying seeing Bourasques dying due to my spotting.
E25 is my least favorite tank due to reasons mentioned in the video but also because of how small AND quick it is, it can just park next to a tank and fire until it's dead because most tanks can't even aim low enough to shoot back
What's cool about the E25 is has preferential matchmaking unless you are in a platoon with a Vehicle that don't have preferential matchmaking so pretty much everything except the E25 @ Tier 7 because I don't think the super hell cat has preferential matchmaking. I have learned my lessons in the past. Platoon all E25 or play by my self LoL.
I have all the tanks that he just showcased. I love each and every one of them! Sorry, Quickybaby. I really love the ELC Even 90. It’s pretty much the only counter to other light tanks like the tier VIII Russian 123. I really wish I still had my UDES. 03. One of the best tanks I’ve ever played. I fully intend to buy it back one day but for now, I’m still saving up for the next tier IX and X tanks on my list. I was a literal ghost in my UDES 03. I maxed camo ratings in that thing. The only TD better than it, in terms of camouflage, is the E 25. The E 25 is a beautifully broken butterfly of ridiculousness. Just for the fun of it, it’s the only German tank I have with a woman commander. It’s fun hearing her shout her lines every, like, 1.8 seconds. Absolutely wonderful little piece of trash! 2014 must have sucked when they first released it. The Manticore is just fun. I’m not sure why it gets such harsh flack. I’ve racked up 5k spotting games with that tank. It’s a little monster! A little monster with a big honkin broomstick! It doesn’t hit lots but it sure hits hard. Especially against other light tanks and SPGs. I’m really looking forward to unlocking all the field mods on it! Thank you once again for the fun video, Mr. Quickfingers! Y’all continue to keep safe. Good hunting, all!
I guess I would like to see what you think is a vehicle that is a favorite of yours but is a lot of work to get a good final result in. One of my "guilty pleasures" is the Charioteer. I play it pretty well but it is work and I need the time/room to work so it is somewhat team dependent.
Every tim e I pause a QB video, your eyes are closed. This leads me to believe that you, in fact, asleep the majority of the time that you are "on air". Cool. . .
Great content, but I think when doing these themed videos, you should play each one 4-5 times and only keep the most thematic results to show the theme more clearly...
I wish that crew 2.0 could just put back to their previous tanks without retraining them, I find it stupid that WoT still doesn't come up with that idea.
It's not that I've learned to accept bush camping auto-loader lights. It's that I learned that there is something far, far more awful waiting for me. *gets 1-shot by an ATGM light drive-by*
The manticore is used in the way it should be with limited ammo due to size. Would really like to know when WG will nerf the hell out of wheeled vehicles and give them worse amount of ammo than the manticore.
I think quickybaby neglects the importance of these equipment changes though... I agree that it makes tanks like the e25 far too powerful, but tanks like this become a force to be reckoned with when previously their only novel characteristic was that they are small and reasonably fast. Sure this is power creeping at its finest, but the equipment 2.0 update also made a lot of other tanks change in playstyle as well because they learned new roles they didnt have and became more relevant in today's matchmaker.
If you like Elc even 90, check 06wallst videos! Best even 90 troll games, it's been renamed Steven 90 in his honor! Big up to Honest gaming community ;)
Don’t forget the 3rd type or camo which is the height of the vehicle. Every single M41 Bulldog chassis tonk is bad at camo. All of them. Regardless of what the stat says.
Im in love with the "Playing the __________" series, never really been a WOT watcher as i mainly play WT, so Good jobb QuickyBaby
Nice you play war thunder too
War Thunder is superior
@@M1A2_AbramsSEPv3 I totally agree with you
@@M1A2_AbramsSEPv3 im a wot player and i absolutely agree
@@M1A2_AbramsSEPv3 true and I am also a wot player
The Alecto deserves to be on this list having the 3rd best camo in the game. Even better than the Elc and E25. That tank is the E25 at tier 4 with just as punchy of a 6pounder and decent dpm for its tier. Best seal clubbers at tier 4 imo
Think it's just because he rarely plays low tiers, and be a seal clubber.
It's not in because it's op in tier IV and only noobs play like that, using op tanks in low tiers to look like they know shit LOL.
@@lucille284 That's probably why, but still I love that tank and wish it got featured.
@@nenadpopov3601 whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
Second this - great tank and don't let the tier snobs bother you. QB does have an Alecto video 'like a crime' it is called.
He never finnished hes tangent about why the E 25 has so much cammo after firing. The reason is because at one point in the game, all TD's had a class bonus that made them keep more of their cammo after firing. When they removed the class bonus they didn't do it for the premium TD's. The SU 122-44 is also a very old tank that has this bonus. It doesn't have nearly as much base cammo as the E 25 though.
Edit: Yellow view port doesn't reduce view range.
I have the 122-44, even with it having worse camo than E25, the old class bonus can be pretty outrageous sometimes. I can shoot at people from insanely close without getting spotted
Imagine if that class bonus had never been removed. A fully camo-pimped UDES 03 would have probably around 25% camo after firing.
@@RedXlV thats why it got removed. It was cancer.
What does it do then?
@@g.d.graham2446 I assume you are asking about yellow view port. It does nothing. Your view range is only reduced if it becomes destroyed/red.
Yellow fuel tank also does nothing. Though, it is good to repair it because if it get's destroyed, you get set on fire.
When that bourrasque tried to yolo just felt my braincells melt
That was such a bruh moment by that player
A SWE TD Ikv 72 can get 72.32% with camo net activated, 35.95% on the move
Udes 03 can have 76,14% camo
But QB didnt use the fields mods to get 2,5% boost for camo net
DAMN camo nets get a slot bonus? That's wild.
@@QuickyBabyTV yeah and that also boost after fire % udes endgame i usually work that small hill bush u were on and u wouldnt be spoted, also bush is huge they would get u with blind fire. I really like my udes
U can only proxy spot it when its in a bush
@@kristapskasparstavars4347 You work that bush. Like a tradie or something. lol Funny.
Thanks, I learned a lot about the tanks that are consistently killing me. A lot of the time I don't even know where the kill shot came from. It really helps to understand the mechanics of tanks I don't typically play.
Over the years I've continuously noted quickybaby detailing the same mistakes when talking about camouflage in WoTs. I don't know if anyone will notice this but I just want to help and clarify one important detail. Since 50m away is an auto detect, the game calculations for view range > camouflage is considered a 0 to be simple, and the % of camo starts reducing from view range from there on. So if you have 500m view range against a 50% camo tank, it's not 250m view range needed but it's more 275m, cause it's 450m minus 50% in the calculations. Hope this helps.
yes he has no idea how it works most of the time
I agree the Alecto should be on the list. It can basically go right next to a tank with 400 meters of spotting and not get spotted.
The ELC is so cute
I know right. With the proper setup, your camo is 55 while not sitting in a bush, you can pretty much get 500 viewrange and also reduce the camo of bushed /moving enemy tanks. If you position yourself well with that, literally only a yoloing fast tank can counter you.
I followed your advice on the build for the ELC EVEN 90 and a couple battles after doing what I can of the build (didn't have everything and my crew was trained for spotting), I managed to bring down a spotting damage of 3,383 in one battle. This is the best I have ever done for spotting. Thank you sir, I am loving this tiny tank.
Should had mentioned the American tier 7 Scorpion . The Camo Rating is through the roof on that tank .. Had a lot of enemies Bewildered on my location when I was playing this tank. But good video QB .
DUDE, RIGHT?!! The hell’s the matter with him not mention that tank? I don’t mind another replay of that little champ!
@@airglide2 he posted one on it recently
@@Ben-vg5is I know. I’m strictly talking about this video.
I just came back to this channel for the first time in like 5 years, glad to see your still at your roots
he actually isn't. but its quite the large topic to discuss.
And i don't want to spoil his content for you :)
@@sliferinora9652 yep
The E25 is indeed called "Cockroach" because of how this thing is really a big, pesky thing that you can't kill that easily. Plus it has a really broken camo and preferential matchmaking, I absolutely hate seeing this in the matchmaker.
Definitely a fun video. I like the comparison of may tanks that focus on the same area of the game, but with different strengths.
U can get the bourrasque up to around 45% moving 55% stationary... it's fun to trol LTs with a stealth bour build.
Was playing maybe a year ago my su-130pm on the map Karelia. I think, i was in the Quadrant B3, hiding behind a big rockpile closer to the swamp area and me and my teammates were everytime spotted, when we moved north and i was like: WTF is spotting us, saw only 3 small overgrown grassturfs western of my position. Loaded HE and fired one HE-Shell in each of this turfs, in the third one was an ELC Even 90, only 80m away. That was creepy, since this battle i have in my loadout 6 HE-Shells reserved, only for blindfiring into suspected ELC hideyholes.
wtf is quadrant b3?
My E25 has a stationary camo rating of 69.3. If I'm in a bush, I can have tanks 51 meters away and they can't see me. I once won a game by hiding in a bush in a cap circle. The enemy entered the cap circle with just a couple seconds left on the timer. He still couldn't see me!!!
Great video! Loving the long form. Would like a refresher/beginners tips and tricks, and or setup video for now rather than a few years back, as a lot has changed.
I love my ELC... It's practically the only tank I play. High damage games almost never happen, but you can just have so much fun in it.
The Steely eyed monster man. That's a compliment. Thank you so much for all the information you provide.
Sneaking is moving. If you're not moving you're hiding. Lol
Thanks!
Thanks Sleepy Time! Glad you enjoyed these outrageously sneaky tanks.
QB, about UDES 03, that speed isn't a problem when you do the bush trick and aren't ever spotted EVEN while firing, this vehicle can keep firing unspotted until about 250-300 meters with 69% conceal as far as I've observed from playing with it.
Not playing CVS on LT is just pointless if you go for sneaky
'If' the enemy uses CVS (including support mediums) your LT will lose its benefit for on the move camo. I will be happy to meet an elc even without CVS because I will outspot them even on my Bourrasque with camo setup (Exp optics/CVS in scout slot/Bounty Exhaust) because the CVS will even out our camo on the move and with the extra viewrange the Borat actually wins the spotting early game on the move to a spot
caviat is that the elc will have to be on the move, so if the elc just sits in a bush you wont win it.
CVS is one of the best equipments to use and tier 7 not having it makes any lt lower than 8 a fake lt
I can rant about this for hours I guess :P
Im also grinding the french light line and everything below Tier 8 without CVS fells just boring because you have to get to proxie range for camping tds
qb is such a bot, he plays everything with cvs appart from lights -,-
I think he was just trying to max out camo
Facts Bourrasque with CVS is legit elc counter, just locate and delete
Hi QB :) On UDES 03 you can get 75,57% of camo - just use scouting slot from field modifications and put there camo net. And with bond vents it can even increase to 76.14% :)
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I liked it, i wouldn't be mad about a whole line of videos, stealth for dummies, armor for dummies and so on, how to use it, who got the best, how to maximize it and so on.
So.... nobody mentioning the Italian tier 5 Semovente TD? With fully skilled crew and a camo net, this thing gets 67% camo when stationary and 33% when moving! Oh and we can of course pump that higher by putting on a bond vent and adding the vent purge directive to give us... 69.69% and 34.42% respectively! Even firing from stationary gives us 18% - not too shoddy at all.
QB, the Udes 03 would really eat up the enemy team if you were in the tree/bush about 20 meters behind you towards the end of that match.
It is also a fabulous tank for passive spotting, when the team doesn't have a LT.
A coffee before going to work and a tea to relax after the supper thats how i roll ,nice games by the way.
As a player with about 12k games that stopped playing years ago, I feel l get a double dose of enjoyment watching. First because i can apreciate the skill and second because l see so many things added to the game that I was lucky to avoid :-)
The Manticore would be better off with commander vision system, exhaust, and optics, instead of vents.
QB is vents fanboy. 😂
@@ayandastidar6562 If u have vents and tubro on your tanks u cant loose 😅
Back when I played WoT (I stopped between the French wheeled light tanks and Equipment 2.0), and I was excellent in French light tanks because I understood how camo and view range worked. The ELC Even 90 was defintely one of the ones I meshed with well (along with the 13 90), but I was nothing short of elite in the 13 57. I would frequently punch in >5k spotting games and occasionally get top of the team and ace tankers without doing a single hitpoint of damage. Iirc I was well within the top 30 on EU in 13 57 assistance damage for quite some time
My rhm borsig's camo is 64.7% camo rating when staying still and can only be spotted by proximity range or an lt
Gamers like Quickybaby don't realize that ordinary people can't afford to equip their tanks with Bond equipment, food , or have 6 skills crew . Play a vanilla tank to see how it performs.
Only thing holding back the ELC is that it needs a good team to influence games, I as a regular ELC player can say that most of the times you do everything right, but until your team can hit their shots, you will not influence the game in almost any way, you will only slow it down because enemy players will not be so aggresive knowing that there is an ELC in a bush.
Edit: I actually hate LT432 way more, because it is reasonably stealthy, has a good gun, good armor. It is like a faster stealthy medium, able to influence games by itself
The UDES is probably one of my favourite tanks in the game, the way the hydraulics works is so cool.
I play with optics and CVS instead of ventilation. Makes it even more op
I'd swear a time or 2 I've run into an EVEN 90 before I spotted it.
Every once in a while I'll watch a World of Tanks video. And every time it reinforces the reasons I quit playing years ago.
If you want to see some funny shenanigans in the ELC, go watch Honest Gaming. He gets himself into hilarious situations with that tank.
Am I the only one thinking that Even 90 is completely disrupting tier 8 light tank meta? Like, playing any other LT than Even 90 is just giving my team a disadvantage as even 90 will always outperform me in a spotting game. Then I'm just playing in an inferior MT or shut down immediately because even 90 has already got into that advance spot while I'm still trying to get there. I don't know. Not playing even 90 just seems pointless these days.
You can kinda counter it when u play wheeled vehicles and yolo push him out of the bush if u know in which he is.
But other than that I completely agree with you
yes and no, you need to change play style to survive the early game against an ELC and be less aggressive in spotting. I've foudn that msot maps have 2 "basic" early spot locations, one 1/3rd of the map in, and 1 and say 40% with a no mans land in the middle. now the ELC can make the 40% every time, i find when i play in my ELC, i meet the enemy ELC in his opposing 40% bush. If he has CVS we see each other, if not i see him and usually it doesn't matter because my team don't kill him.
If I'm in any of my other lights, i go to the 1/3rd bush point, and i wait, let him come, you can outspot ELC on the move with the help of a bush in most other lights. from there, you need to advance, alternatively if no bueno after a minute of not spotting the ELC or he turns up on another flank, move to counter or move to be on opposite map side to drive a flank against a none spotting enemy... Of all the tanks breaking tier 8, the ELC aint it. In fact, its one of the more balanced lights when you consider Skoda 56, shrek, and others, in so much as it actually packs enough punch rolling up on it isn't a free lunch.
The elc is far from OP since it has no armor and low hit points, now if it had the magic EBR wheels then it would be OP.
Moron statement.
I love it, It's one of the few tanks that have a chance against the infestation of clown cars.
"You spin me right round, Quacky, right round. Like a E25, right round baby"
I love your hate for the ELC. It's an awesome sneaky little bastard.
QB, I'm screaming at my monitor right now, 13:35, just knock down the tree man!! The enemy team would have a way harder time spotting you my guy! Try it next time
K-91 PT can actually reach higher camo than the Swedish TDs because of the last field mod.
Imo a bourrasque camo/spotting build is also very op. You can outspot most lights.
QB on ebr 105 why don't you have the vents on 2nd DMG slot ? at 22:40
I'm a firm believer that even 90 needs nerfing. it's like if enemy gets an even 90 and you get a tech-tree or lesser Prem LT you will pretty much lose if spotting matters in the map.
Wasn't it you QuackyBaby who first reviewed ELC Even 90 and had completely missed the point about its extreme stealth and later you understood why people love to play this tank? Now you are a believer too!
In my S1 TD I use the net, binos, and turbo. And if I am needed to counter spot things or act as a late game scout, as long as I'm not firing they cannot spot me and will be lit like crazy. It's still capable of fighting without the vents IMO.
why did you not youse the exhaust in the spoting slot fore more camo????
Can we have a series of that QB? Up to date Tank reviews for the older tanks.
Unless they finally did something to it and I missed it, doesn't the E25 still retain its bush bonus even after firing?
Not bush bonus, but firing, what I was trying to suggest is that even firing in a bush with 26% is similar to other tanks moving into a bush. That's how crazy it is.
Sir you have committed grievous crimes against the Jagdpanther
with manticore/Elc you can go SW corner on Chinese Wall (heavy flank). there is some tons of bushes right in the corner, you can use them to permspot just every heavy if they start to rush that side. or just casually drive through enemy lines, 53m away from them
20:23 maybe he's not aiming at me...? ....BLAMO!!!
lol
Shame he doesn't do low tiers, as I would have put the Pak 40 on here.
Hi QB, Try this build for the E25 for equipment: Bounty Exhaust, Bond Vents and Bounty rammer. It's a stupidly good light tank with 64% camo with the directive.
I love the Even 90 for the simple reason that others hate it. It means I can be a pain in the butt to Bourasques that spam premium ammo. I’ve earned some good credits just by spotting and enjoying seeing Bourasques dying due to my spotting.
great series. i can't think of any topics though
E25 is my least favorite tank due to reasons mentioned in the video but also because of how small AND quick it is, it can just park next to a tank and fire until it's dead because most tanks can't even aim low enough to shoot back
What's cool about the E25 is has preferential matchmaking unless you are in a platoon with a Vehicle that don't have preferential matchmaking so pretty much everything except the E25 @ Tier 7 because I don't think the super hell cat has preferential matchmaking. I have learned my lessons in the past. Platoon all E25 or play by my self LoL.
Surprisingly, none of the sneakiest tanks are named after cats and mice.
Hate when my favorite commercials interrupted by Quickybaby...
for the ELC cammo problem wargaming could just add a max cieling to concealment that is close to or lower than the current max concealment on it.
that jgpanther is so funny. If he could reverse himself on the rock beside him and not driving away into the open he could even kill qb.
confused. I've looked and my ELC Even 90 doesn't seem to have a bounty exhaust option. How have you acquired it?
If he had lower tiers activated, he could've played vehicles like the Pz I C, the UE 57, and the Alecto 😁
I have all the tanks that he just showcased. I love each and every one of them! Sorry, Quickybaby. I really love the ELC Even 90. It’s pretty much the only counter to other light tanks like the tier VIII Russian 123.
I really wish I still had my UDES. 03. One of the best tanks I’ve ever played. I fully intend to buy it back one day but for now, I’m still saving up for the next tier IX and X tanks on my list. I was a literal ghost in my UDES 03. I maxed camo ratings in that thing. The only TD better than it, in terms of camouflage, is the E 25.
The E 25 is a beautifully broken butterfly of ridiculousness. Just for the fun of it, it’s the only German tank I have with a woman commander. It’s fun hearing her shout her lines every, like, 1.8 seconds. Absolutely wonderful little piece of trash! 2014 must have sucked when they first released it.
The Manticore is just fun. I’m not sure why it gets such harsh flack. I’ve racked up 5k spotting games with that tank. It’s a little monster! A little monster with a big honkin broomstick! It doesn’t hit lots but it sure hits hard. Especially against other light tanks and SPGs. I’m really looking forward to unlocking all the field mods on it!
Thank you once again for the fun video, Mr. Quickfingers! Y’all continue to keep safe. Good hunting, all!
Was hoping the video would have Light, Medium, Heavy and TD. Maybe next video?
Top 5 tanks with highest shell velocity next?
Specifically with the udes 03 you can play it in driving mode and snapshot for big dmg games
I guess I would like to see what you think is a vehicle that is a favorite of yours but is a lot of work to get a good final result in. One of my "guilty pleasures" is the Charioteer. I play it pretty well but it is work and I need the time/room to work so it is somewhat team dependent.
Every tim e I pause a QB video, your eyes are closed. This leads me to believe that you, in fact, asleep the majority of the time that you are "on air". Cool. . .
Great content, but I think when doing these themed videos, you should play each one 4-5 times and only keep the most thematic results to show the theme more clearly...
i think you should take cvs over vents on elc
I wish that crew 2.0 could just put back to their previous tanks without retraining them, I find it stupid that WoT still doesn't come up with that idea.
The O-NI also has the same camo rating when stationary and when moving!
.0.01% all around?
Drop vents for the turbo in the camo net build, it has far more value
It's not that I've learned to accept bush camping auto-loader lights. It's that I learned that there is something far, far more awful waiting for me. *gets 1-shot by an ATGM light drive-by*
No stealthiest medium or a stealth heavy? Unfortunate, but great video
The manticore is used in the way it should be with limited ammo due to size. Would really like to know when WG will nerf the hell out of wheeled vehicles and give them worse amount of ammo than the manticore.
I dont mind the even 90 because they are really only good at 1 thing. EBR's are good at everything, as are things like cheiftans and 279e's
Obj 416 had a ball playing it with its high camo
I think quickybaby neglects the importance of these equipment changes though... I agree that it makes tanks like the e25 far too powerful, but tanks like this become a force to be reckoned with when previously their only novel characteristic was that they are small and reasonably fast. Sure this is power creeping at its finest, but the equipment 2.0 update also made a lot of other tanks change in playstyle as well because they learned new roles they didnt have and became more relevant in today's matchmaker.
I mean, the Elc90 could really have only 360 view range, and still be effective, because it can still spot before they spot it xD
If you like Elc even 90, check 06wallst videos! Best even 90 troll games, it's been renamed Steven 90 in his honor! Big up to Honest gaming community ;)
Just Curious ?? Don't you think the ELC Even would benefit more from the commanders vision system in place of vents now days ?
These are really good tanks.
I would love to see some of the fastest reloading tanks qb as the only tank I have 3 marked on my console is the AT2
Every time i play a Swedish TD i am guaranteed to get a map that it is useless on EVERY time.
You're saying you're "memeing" with camonet on UDES, but I have 3 marks and top 88 player ever in it and I always used Camonet.
Never seen the Commander he had for the Manticore, girl with deer ears. Is it possible to further improve camo with exhaust and net?
Yes, but then you lose the optics which really makes it work, ideally you could have even higher camp on the elc or the udes
When you started to be nerf-lord? Be a buff lord.
20:23 plz put this on best moments videos Peppidy!
Sry, I luv my Even 90. Been getting most of my LT challenges done with it, and I've been able to split between passive and active scouting with it.
Can you ”hide” a heavy tank? How high camo rating can a heavy tank get?
Type 5 Heavy in a bush 🤣🤣
Don’t forget the 3rd type or camo which is the height of the vehicle. Every single M41 Bulldog chassis tonk is bad at camo. All of them. Regardless of what the stat says.