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- The first episode of our brand new show Total Recoil is here!
A familiar face is back... a warrior, a gamer and our host...
Israel Wright will be hosting this series and together with his guests they will get down and dirty into the world of military technology.
If you are into, ACOGs, suppressors, grips, guns in general...
you are at the right place!
Israel and our very special guest Captain Lars Whelan will dive into the world of Insurgency Sandstorm and review all the mods by the talented ISMC Mod Team Collaboration. They will shift away from the tactical perspective and embark on a detailed analysis of various firearms, attachments and firearms modifications.
Total Recoil is all about that, and more...
Leave your comments below and tell us what do you want to see next...
Whether you take us to a shooting range or cleaning room training, it's up to you!
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0:00 - Intro
1:32 - M4A1
3:14 - H.K416
6:10 - Daniel Defense m4 block II
7:25 - A.K12
8:50 - MA110A2
9:57 - A.K103
10:26 - SA58
11:47 - M110k2
12:31 - MP7
12:53 - Glock19
13:58 - Sig Sauer P320
14:57 - Scar L
17:45 - Weaponsmith
19:15 - Glock17 P80
19:51 - M4A1 Block II
20:50 - Conclusion
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Please do this for escape from tarkov too. I think everyone will like it.
Could you also look at the equipment that is being used in games as well as the weapons?
We all know Tarkov is next
Make the spec ops experts react to fallout 4 or Halo 5
Israel’s just mentioning the attachements like he’s ordering in McDonald’s.
This how they order in weapon stores. duh.. Its the same thing there
can i get the number 7 combo with a large mag and a red dot scope pls
I'll have 2 number 9mm's, a 9mm extended, two glock 45's.....
@@batterysurf a .308 With Canted optic and a scope
@@batterysurf 2 45 acp's and a large 50.
“You get half the accuracy but you get more reliability”
I can hear Brandon downing a vodka angrily..
Inrangetv aggressivly shovels mud onto AK
Papa k is mad
Laughs in recoil counterbalance system
such bs what these guys say, they dont really know shit theyve just been in the military
Calm thy tits, Its my dood. When you're shot at by people with what are probably Naked AK's, with no optics and they miss a lot, you probably tend to think its inaccurate, well, that's my assumption as to why they think so.
How about "Gun Specialists reacts to cursed guns in Escape from Tarkov"?
What makes the gun cursed
@@MegaFontaine1 incredibly unusual attachment combinations resulting in strange and unusual appearances
@BetaStation he said t a r k o v guns
There is no kar98 in tarkov bruh
What he meant is like an svds with 6 different canted sights
An aks74u with a sniper scope and short barrel
Sa58 without stock and short barrel with 10 round mags
Toz shotgun with a thermal scope
Mosin with 4 sights
@@rascuvalentin wrong @ buddy boy
@@dragodx8238 yeah youtube bugged
I feel like these guys would be considered “gun experts” ten years ago. There is so much current stuff they don’t recognize
They should really bring Cameron Fath into this series. Not only is he more familiar with this stuff, he was deployed with alot of modern warfighting equipment during his time in the Rangers.
Well, they're also experts for what THEY used. Its not like military would have need for them to know about civilian gear, or stuff other militaries are using.
No, they can't even distinguish between range marks and milidots
A weapon's expert can also be defined as someone who's an expert in the usage of weapons which both of these guys would be more on the side of the usage side of expert than the technical knowledge side. For example, there are tons of people in the youtube comments section who may be more knowledgeable about the firearms and accessories being shown, but give these guys a few minutes to familiarize themselves with these weapons and I bet they'd be a lot better at putting people in body bags using those weapons than the vast majority of the people hating on these guys.
@@Talishar while you are right, the whole point of this series is going over the minutiae of guns. And I would call what you are saying a tactics expert or shooting expert. Like, I can be an expert in Medieval Japan, that doesn’t mean I know how to fight with a katana, nor would you expect me. But you would expect me to know the different shoguns, and how samurai armor evolved through those different eras
I feel like a kid eating doritos listening to my two hunting uncles not knowing what they're talking about yet they keep talking to me
Its ok, theres a lot they talk about here they dont know about too
Thats pretty on point
They limited what they get cuz those attachments are expensive so if they don't know some of them probably they rarely see it irl action
@@accessdenied5998 the attachments are whatever, but its annoying to see firearm myths still being spread by people who have no idea what theyre talking about or have outdated information
IE: everything they got wrong about the AK platform in this video
Yea. This was pretty painful to watch. Neither knew anything for the most part. The AK myths were painful, and and I wanted to scream when they said “u can’t buy this as a civilian” about an eotech. Also it’s pronounced “GUYslee” not “Giselle”. “TriGGicon” not “Tricon”
Holy moly! Dude’s got a clip board this time around, we getting serious up in here
You never know when you will have a surprise attack at close quarters
Yea, I didnt recognize him either
Thought I was getting yelled for a second there.
"You can put the AK in mud and fire it"
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*Ian and Karl have entered the chat*
you can if the safety is on but if that thing is open oh yeah Inrange put that argument to bed real quick lol
And Brandon
@@ZaMonolith1986 the safety doesn’t even do that much to stop mud it can still get in
Bro mike and Zach finna have a word
@@chiseledmedal2634 I see, you're a man of culture too
Gun "Specialist": "You can't buy that on the civilian market.
Me: *looks at my nearly identical rifle without the happy switch and laughs*
It's weird seeing Israel look like hes going to give me a loan and not hand me a beer like he does with Cameron
It’s his co-host, he’s probably dialling it down because he’s hosting with someone whose probably trained him.
"You get like half the accuracy with an AK."
*Angry Brandon Herrera Noises in the Distance*
Neither of these guys know what they’re talking about
@@Ep16709 it’s honestly sad. These aren’t experts as they seem to have had no actual experience with modern weapons lol. They’re knowledge ended in 2004
@@Ep16709 “neither know what they’re talking about” as they casually name attachments like it’s notgin
@@weebtrash3376 he’s literally reading it of a list lol he miss pronounced half of them. He’s an old school sf guy not a “weapon expert” there’s a common misconception that because you’re in the military you must be a gun expert. To most of those guys they couldn’t care less, it’s a tool to accomplish their mission. Then there’s an entire community of military and civilians that are actual “gun nuts” we know all the little intricacies and nuanced differences because we love firearms. So yes this sf guy knows almost noting about guns, other than how to shoot them and clean them. I wouldn’t want to get into a gun fight with him tho.
@@jaydubs6354 I mean I’m sure they could do some cool stuff here. Maybe comment on tactics or realism of different games. Unfortunately most people think that being in the military means you’re a firearms expert but that couldn’t be further from the truth, and quite frankly they probably wouldn’t be good at their old jobs if they put that much energy into gun knowledge.
Flip up magnifiers have been a common design for years.
The HK416 is a short stroke piston rifle, not a Direct impingement rifle like the M4. The 416 is a 5.56 rifle, the 417 is 308.
I'm very surprised you guys have never seen the Surefire 60rd stanags. They are reliable. AKs and ARs are both accurate and reliable.
Also flat top rmr mounting has been common for years on ACOGs, Elcans, LPVOs etc.
...Jesus Christ. The Ak 12 is a 5.45x39 updated version of the AK74M. Honestly it amazes how little you guys know about this stuff.
Red dot sights are not going to be uniquely affected by recoil. The fact that you say that makes me wonder if you've ever shot with a red dot. Glass quality, battery life, moa size is what matters.
I don't mean to be disrespectful but there's just so many inaccuracies for dudes claiming to be firearms specialists
Yeah I can understand if they don't know modern stuff because they have been out of service for a while but most of the things they said was about stuff that was already around well before the deployments he talks about every video so it's kinda strange they don't even recognize it
im sorry but these experts are not experts, they couldn't even tell that a 416 fires a 5.56x45mm when it has the exact same magazine as the m4 and says what caliber it uses on screen. they may have been experts 10-15 years ago but even then they should know what mill dots and mill lines are without guessing. Honestly from what ive seen in this video i must be a gun expert......
Holy shit the amount of "I know eveything because of i play games and have TH-cam" experts lol. Dude not every branch or higher up special forces get fancy ass equipment and stuff... they work witb what they get and ever so often when they get the chance are introduced to new gear in to there unit. Or have hands on, on whats new and then never actually use it on the field.
@@Cagedtundrahawk123 dude these guys are claiming to be firearms experts but saying blatantly false information. Maybe people have knowledge from actual firearms experience and years of research. Watch a garandthumb video and go to a rifle 1 course and youll get it
@@Cagedtundrahawk123 they should know about this stuff regardless. They should know about various weapons systems foreign and nato. Ignorance causes death.
How the weapons expert has never seen an MP7 before baffles me.
I mean he could have just not worked with any Special forces that is the MP7 I guess
@@orionriftclan2727 but he didn't know what gun it was
I never shoot a gun and i know what an MP7 is
Because he doesn’t play video games
Don't know that either of these 2 "experts" have seen anything besides a desk and computer monitor in conflict.
@@angrydingus5256 Israel was a green beret so he definatly saw combat. Don't know about the other guy though.
Israel, I didn't recognize you for a sec! Love the beard and that you're branching out! Always happy to see you!
Bro I thought it was some one else
@@blackmadara6763 Same man! His voice gave it away.
Really lol
@@blackmadara6763 same
@@MrBothaBrink Yup. Sadly it took me essentially the entire intro to realize it was him.
Hell yeah boys! Thanks for showing some ISMC love! We're down to play with you again anytime :)
Get gamology to have you guys on the show so we can see the artists who make the weapon models and the people who use them in real life react together
great mod. def. breathing life to insurgency. i picked the game back up after seeing how the mod change the game.
@@teddytherat949 I am THE MOST DOWN for this to happen
@@freederth619 You honor us :)
Dang, up this one
When they didn't know what the MP7 was, I felt betrayal
@@thatonenigeriansformula I know
@@thatonenigeriansformula Yea but they're introduced as firearms experts. And apparently the other dude has worked with a ton of special forces...aND the MP7 is an iconic gun...so like...
It’s iconic because of video games and a little bit of pop culture, not so well known in the military world though
@@lucasm3452 well, the German special forces used it, and is still using it, if I'm not wrong, for ages. But part of what you're saying is true. The bandit main in me was triggered.
@@dravindileep2881 This dude think its iconic because he used it in a fucking game lmao. If it wasnt so popular in MW3 no other franchise would bother with it and it wouldnt be popular in the GAMING world. Why tf should real army people know about it.
Gun specialists? *talking about 416* “I think it shoots .308” *doesn’t know what a g33 magnifier looks like*
Or stuff like "The AK12? Would it be the 12 gauge option for the AK?" Jesus.
Dudes don’t know how to pronounce “guys-Lee” or “Trijicon”. Yea, “specialist” 🙄
I've never shot a gun and even I know this basic info ,I do play a lot of bf4 tho
You're right, also i find that a little bit wired that a gun spec dont know the HK mp7
@@Freakasaw yeah i was like "okay understandable theyve never used one" but then theyre like "yeah it says mp so its probably hk but uh it certainly doesnt look like anything hk would make "
Trying to understand how two weapon experts didn’t know what a magnifier was...
Or an mp7
You’re only an expert about things you know.
Or an sbr, rmr, the pronunciation of half this shit lol. I was screaming at my phone because they’re so misinformed lol.
Because they're old. A lot of this stuff just wasn't around.
@@reckyourself6948 this is true but I know a ton of old dudes who are literally experts haha. Ian and Karl at In range tv, taran butler, jerry micheluck, Chris bartuci (small arms solutions) etc. the old dudes are typically the most knowledgeable because they were hands on with a lot of weapons we don’t see often today. My generation born in 90-2000 really only know current gen nato weapons largely through movies and video games etc. unless guns really peak your interest and you get into it.
Looking at a 416, one of the most used platforms by sof. "Is that a .308?"
Yeaaa. That guys gun knowledge is a bit dated.
He said he was out processing by the time they were getting the FN Scar so his knowledge is gonna be a bit dated when it comes to recent firearms like the 416.
yea, they dont really know shit
the AK-12 fires 12G :) the more u learn
@@smithingbear7522 in other words, they’re not experts lol
Gotta love Jizzel triggers and Tricon sights. They really reduce the recoil from that AK-12 shotgun. I was also once rounded up in a bus station to be a specialist.
I’m fucking dead
I think he meant Giselle like Tom Brady’s supermodel wife.
Repeat after me, “GUYS-LEE”
Then again these are pretty Gucci gear brands that true gun nerds generally are aware of. A gun expert doesn’t need to know everything, just the basics TBH. Guns are really all a like in most ways.
I came here just for this 😂😂
This needs more upvotes
hol on, sommat ain't right here...
"AK-12? is that like a 12 gauge?"
Amazing
Ehh I don’t know that one
While the AK 12 isn’t a 12 gauge, there are AK variants that totally shoot 12 gauge.
@@cccycling5835 Yeah, the Saiga 12s. But saying that the AK12 (for which the HUD shows the caliber 5.45x39) is 12g cause it says 12 in the name pissed me off. Also, they still say the myth that the AK can fire in mud and is inaccurate. For fucks sake, it's a 300 meter rifle! It works, so does the M4.
I just want to say that the editing in this video is insane. Props to the editor, amazing job.
Thank you! :)
It's very smooth. It feels natural. It's one of those things where you only notice it either when it's gone or when someone mentions it.
Why is Cameron not the host of this? His knowledge is far more vast and up to date than just about anyone I’ve seen on this platform that does these kinds of videos.
Cameron has not shown up in a while so i guess he must be busy or something
@@kookykoruc1827 Cameron has his own stuff going on with his brand I think
"gun specialists"
They don't know what an HK416 is, what a magnifier is, what an mp7 is, what an AK12 is...
Yeah not saying they don't know their stuff because they can probably use the stuff they were issues blindfolded, but not sure I'd call them gun specialists in the full spectrum of firearms
you forgot the biggest red flag of all, they dont know what mill dots and mill lines are.
and you just know them from video games sitting in a basement lol :D
Mercyy precisely… that makes it even more embarrassing for them that a nobody who sits in their basements and plays games knows more than them
@@obscurit_y4536 wow sitting in a basement and remembering shit from cod... cool kids :D
ngl, if you're going to have an additional person come in for this series with wright, it really should be more of a gun nerd that can really break down the specifics of what's being shown
Yes like the British museum guy that gamespot brings
@@lordgrey3749 he's carrying the whole channel lol
@@Nietabs I'm pretty sure that guy is gamespot at this point lmao
Lucas botkin or grand thumb should be on this show
@@kalvinteo2600 so someone who actually knows what they’re talking about. lol
Israel in the video: 40 Mike Mike :)
Cameron watching this at home: _WOOOOOOOOO_
The “expert” doesn’t know that a magnifier is? Wtf.
I'm not sure how wide spread magnifiers were on the military side of things. They're finally gaining popularity in the civilian world. But I always thought most military dudes had those fixed power ACOGs and I don't think you can use a magnifier on that
@@BacklTrack yeah we don't use magnifiers. The most common is the acog and red dot. I have seen elcans though, but never a magnifier with a 1x or anything like that. Mainly because that shit hangs to the side which can get caught up on a lot of our gear. Not to mention it's extra shit on your weapon that's not needed.
Most sof units don't used magnifiers. They tend to use elcans.
@@thentantt not widespread but they are used.
they also don't know the difference between an HK416 and an M4
It’s interesting to hear how different it is with special forces that I worked with recently and those in the 2010s. The SF guys I worked with in Afghanistan in 2019 pretty much had their pick of what weapon and what attachments they put on weapons. It was the same for us. Our chain of command was like, “you can put whatever you want on your weapon system as long as you don’t break it and you take all that stuff off when you turn it back in.” This from a regular infantry battalion command in a NG unit. Our chain of command is a big believer in it should be “shooter’s choice” or “shooter’s comfort”. On deployment my M4A1 had a Gen 1 trijicon ACOG, tac light, peq15, vertical foregrip, bipod, canted iron sights and was painted in a desert camo. Everything but the ACOG and peq were my own additions. As long as we’re in the field we are free to use our own gear and weapon attachments that we feel most comfortable with as far as our command is concerned. As for the game, I’ve been playing it a long time and the general game is awesome. I just recently got into the mods in this video and it just makes it that much better.
Dude! You guys didn't recognize the MP7? I guess I'm very used to it after serving in the Norwegian Armed Forces. That's like the go-to medic weapon.
Really? I’m no expert but I believe the m4 generally does double duty due to how short it is. In the US military. I don’t even know what the last sub machine the US military adopted.
The US has really dumb laws when it comes to importing certain weapons for official/civilian use. There are some weapons that we just absolutely don’t get our hands on
The MP7 is pretty much a Navy SEAL gun. You're not going to really see these in the US military aside from a tier 1 unit
Mp7 wasn't really being given to anyone in the army only Navy SPECWAR. Also the average grunt isn't a gun bunny they just deal with what they're assigned the most "exotic" thing i might fire for example is a GP320 or if im really lucky a mossberg 500 shotgun.
@@user-kv5lq9xm8c mainly the fact they also don't have a civilian variety of a mp7 let alone a mp5
Man he's freaking listing off all these attachments like, he's Linus reviewing a computer.
Oh ,Shit, this comment blew up and surprised the hell out of me
Pretty sure he has lists of attachments on his clipboard.
I'm almost certain hes reading it off but still pretty astonishing
I'm not in the military and could name off every part on those guns, most manufactures too lol Once you get into guns the rabbit hole goes deeeeeeeeep
@@alphabet8798 Yes, certainly. It's interesting to see the power of video games at work. I think hardly anyone predicted that so many people would take an interest in aftermarket gun parts, purely because of games like EFT and Insurgency.
@@xSP3CTREx Yeah in the military you use what they give you so I don't blame them but in the civilian market you can branch out more into customizations and other little things to enhance your firearm
It's also worth mentioning that this is Sandstorm's ISMC mod, not from the vanilla game.
Y’all should bring in gun enthusiasts and have them breakdown weapon systems in games. I like these guys but they are a bit dated in their info and clearly don’t stay up with it. I’m a mild enthusiast and I seemed to be more familiar with most of these weapon systems (and how to say some of these terms more accurately) than these two. Again I enjoyed it and it’s cool to see them apply it to their real military experience but have people who are actual experts on weapon systems break it down. Solid vid 👍
Dated??? You do realize the MP7 has been around since 1999
@@spartanpatriot3163 they didnt even know what the mp7 was. Yes their knowledge is dated.
Have you seen the Firearms expert reacts from GameSpot that might be a good one to check out if you have not seen him its his job to know alot about guns
@@pascalstrijker3985 I haven’t, I will have to check it out. Thanks!
I don't mean to call them out as they literally have a lot of experience but i was more than suprised when they didn't know what an MP7 was lol.
It's kinda expected...
Though... Cameron could have identified that weapon. Israel was posted way before this gun got adopted.
@@mostofajawaditmumrhythm3817 agreed but they should remove “expert” from the title. Just say “veterans review video game guns and attachments” etc. it’s misleading
@Fishy Vagina yeah smg’s are not common these days in American armed forces. Even police agencies have pretty much eliminated them in favor of rifles plus there’s been a huge rise in civilian body armor purchases. Believe sales were up 400% in 2020. Typically though socom gets their hands on a lot of gear unavailable to the conventional forces so it’s a little surprising these guys aren’t at least more familiar with some of these guns particularly the 416 because that’s been in service since 2004
@Fishy Vagina Something like the MP7 would be even more rare for these guys to run than other SMGs. The MP7 is one of a couple Personal Defense Weapons (PDWs)., along with the P90. They were developed along NATO standards that were created in response to the proliferation of body armor, and especially in response to Russia making body armor a standard piece of kit for their infantry. So essentially this new subclass of weapon was designed as a potential response to Russian attack or invasion of NATO countries. This isn't something that ever really happened which is why PDW weapons like the MP7 and P90 have rarely seen any actual military use.
Magnifiers have been out for a while, surprised they’ve never seen one before
They honestly thought it was the windage or elevation adjustment 😂😂😂 if they’re gun experts then I’m a fuckin brain surgeon
@@jaydubs6354 lol yeah the gun veteran level 100 doesn't know what a magnifier is
Well there'd usually be glass visible right there. There isn't. It's the games fault.
@@KyotoStationHere bruh
Mad respect to all who have served. Just like to say Ive always liked watching you guys pick war games apart it helps me try to play differently and better
That callback to the karambit comments of the splintercell video was super cheeky lmao 16:40.
This gun smith’s gun knowledge is shockingly out of date
AK - 12 is 12 gauge apparently lmao
Doesn’t know what a HK 4.16 didn’t recognize an eotech magnifier
@@fletcherallen3478 i was like i thought this guy was a gun expert WHAT do you mean you dont know what a magnifier is
thinks the folding stock on SCAR blocks the controls, but it folds to the right side xD
@@fletcherallen3478 And said the 416 chambered in .308 lmaoo
Everytime he says "Gizzelle"😭😭
Yeah and thinking the flip up magnifiers were windage knobs... They seem to know some, but far from "experts". They've been out of the game and living in CA for far too long.
@@xAy3x yeah, i was kind of disappointed when they didnt know stuff like the mp7 and ak12. Still an interesting video, just wish they knew more.
This video is super sad
@@xAy3x anyone that likes guns should stay as far from California as possible. California has the dumbest gun laws.
@@bigsmegga Right, I was just thinking to myself jeez, I spend far too much time shopping for gun parts online.. I was at least surprised that one of them knew that having a butt stock on a 10.5" barrel is illegal and that subsonic rounds are better for running suppressed, past that they knew little about current tech, gear, mods etc.
Love the channel, but I wish they’d had more recent SF vets on for this one. Almost everything they didn’t recognize, from the HK416 to the MP7, is standard issue for modern SF units now.
Always a joy to fall over a new video here. Israel is surprisingly solid as a host!
These guys seem... out of touch when it comes to firearm accessories
Yup they know jack shit. Bruh said HK416 "its firing 308" , the magnifier "Elevation and windage" and the t2 red dot "eotech with a little red dot"
california life
@@IDFVids ok mister expert, perhaps you should be the teacher instead, and for your info there's an HK that looks similar to the HK416 except this one uses 7.62x51 but I'm pretty sure you already know the one I'm referring to
@@user-uy7bn4kt2b its called an hk417 and it wasnt shown in the video. Stop being butthurt over facts. They got it wrong and youre making yourself look like an angry little child.
@@IDFVids and what could mr. gun nut knows it all could tell me? You can't possibly say you know every single weapon that has ever been made now can you?
Yo gamology, next time you do this have one of these guys and an actual weapons artist who models these type of guns so you can get the reaction between the guys who use these in real life and the guys who make these for video games. That would be really interesting
This
I enjoyed these two guys talking about our games and comparing it to their exp. More of this please.
Thank you for service both of you
Gawd Damn.... Israel came into Work today with the Clipboard! Things aboutta get Serious in here! XD
they dont know anything bout these guns and attachments im honestly surprised
For real. Magpul hasn’t made Aluminum GI mags last time I checked and so many other things I would’ve thought they’d know being called “specialists”
@@Everarmed89 exactly like the g33 magnifier they were dumbfounded like are you serious?
@@xcallsignxfreemanx2804 pretty sure the only time I’ve heard Geissele pronounced “jizzell” lol and Trijicon “Trycon” was from people who know zero about anything gun related
@@xcallsignxfreemanx2804 Couldn't believe that either. And trying to figure out what a ballistic reticle was, lmfao
@@gunguy-mk4mt its honestly embarrassing
TL;DW grandads relive former military glory playing video games
I like how Israel Wright saying the equipment so specific and Capt. Lars Whelan just say he like flashlights
Do we even need to say - give them Tarkov gun modification to check out?
Yes but with better clips this time.
@@DaRKKiLLeR4141 yeah, they should show someone playing around in the 'weapon presets' so they could should show every attachment like uppers, barrels handguards and stuff.
tarkov guns are pretty hard to showcase a lot of stuff you wouldn't pick up and way too many attachments
These guys didnt even know what a magnifyer was how do you expect them to know what anything in tarkov is?
@@GrimRealityGroup they did, it didn't look like it. there'd usually be visible glass. not just black.
Karl from InRange just woke up in a cold sweat at 5:20.
Thanks for the question around 9:30 about bringing own weapons to the field, I always wanted to know that 🤩
Love this new series please keep it going
Love this, you have soldier who has experience in the field and an instructor who can give more of a technical breakdown. This is going to be a great series.
An instructor who I believe doesn't know a fuckin thing.
@@justaguy723 thats what i was thinking
@@justaguy723 Exactly, neither of these dudes know what they're talking about. Just because they were in the military doesn't make them firearms experts.
@@justaguy723 same seems like he knew the a decent bit back when he was in the military. But isn’t up to to date on a lot of optics, gear, and attachments. “mp7 being an uzi.” He seems like a cool guy who knows a lot but more of an “outdated weapons expert.” Get Jeff from Taofledermaus or something, that dude’s up to date and can tell you what drywall screws do when fired from a 12 gauge.
@@levivoyles5924 one is an expert, one was special forces. And they didn't say what era he's an expert in, he talked about guam and other pacfic places, he served pre-gulf war. He probably knows older guns better
Super pumped for this. My man Izzy doing major things in a major way. Digging it!
I would defined enjoy more of this series.
Love the new segment good stuff! 👌👌
You should take a look at Escape from Tarkov in this series, but specifically the ridiculous builds like an MP5K with 2 long range scopes. Just to see how many you can look at without having an aneurism.
2 scopes nah in tarkov it's all about becoming the sun just put 10 flashlights on there
Reminds me how people were running around cod with an m4 with high power scope, 60 round mag and no stock
I’m addicted to this channel
Same 😆🙂
Yup - we are using big mags in Sanstorm just for the fact that on our community servers we have large number of bots coming (sometime 50 per wave / 3 waves, so we need a lot of bullets) in large groups or in conga line. The drawback in game as in real life is the longer reload time. During my military service I've tested AKM 70 bullets drums (we were instructed not to fill in more than 40). The feel is like a small reduction in recoil. With 70 they drums were hard to manipulate and carry, even the massive RPK guy on our group used to use the RPK 40 bullet mag. instead).
You guys need to get better gun experts. Didn't know what a magnifier looked liked, called the Aimpoint T2 an EoTech. Didn't know what an MP7 was. I can go on
I appreciate his service, but that doesn't make him an "expert"
or calling the HK416 a .308 gun..
Ian from Forgotten Weapons would have been great on here
Can we just say they didn't recognize the mp7
Bet they don’t even know what caliber it is
There’s a whole host of “you’re experts but don’t know what this thing is?” going on in this video...
@@trevorcoyle517 everybody gonna learn something.
Jay Dubs to be fair the MP7 is like literally the only gun that fires 4.6mm
@@Viper-dz2kw exactly! It’s unique to the gun lol if you’re into guns at all you know the mp7 shoots a 4.6
Israel closing his eyes to focus on imagining using a charging handle was so precious
I’m going to love this series. Hope it continues
@gameology please pick people who know what they’re talking about. I would be happy to be a part of the show. I knew all the items they mentioned, could explain how they worked, and even pronounce them correctly. Just because they were special forces at one point doesn’t mean they’re they are up to date with modern firearms and accessories.
Hey Israel, hi Lars! I’m an armory tech at a gun club here in Minnesota for goin on 12 years now? Jesus, I need to sit down for a second. Anyway! I thought I’d answer a few of your questions about the gun-tech side of your video, in order of appearance, of course. This is all off the top of my head so if I get any details wrong, feel free to correct me.
The Heckler and Koch HK416 is functionally identical to the Colt M4 family except for one key detail: the proprietary gas-operated short-stroke piston similar to the HK G36-a refinement to a similar system introduced by the Armalite AR-18 in 1963 but that’s not here nor there.
The short-stroke piston lets the rifle fire regardless of detritus that might otherwise foul the gas tube-dirt, sand, mud, water, slime, bad paint jobs, tax documents, bad language, my dad-if the safety is off and there are rounds in the magazine, the HK416 *will fire* when you pull the trigger.
Delta Force and HK collaborated on the HK416 at the behest of Delta Force R&D’s Larry Vickers in the ‘90s-the exact timeline is a little nebulous but I’m guessing it was after the Gulf War, the design parameters specifically called for a carbine for use in close quarters.
Delta liked the gun so much it replaced their M4s completely in the mid-00s, I *think* it was in the ‘03-‘05 territory-the vets on staff say we had boots in Iraq already-and DEVGRU SEALs have been cranking out Frankenstein variants every few years for shits and giggles. Various law-enforcement agencies in the US have adopted it since, usually modified versions of the civilian HK556 model.
What really cemented the HK416’s rep was when the goddamn French Foreign Legion adopted a design variant-the HK416F, guess what the F stands for-and did away with the FAMAS family in 2011, followed by the rest of the French military in 2016. Its a *damn* good gun.
The AK-12 is the fifth generation upgrade to the AK pattern family, the previous one being the AK-103 in 2003 (which you’ll see later in the video) that replaced the AK-74 from 1974.
You might detect a pattern here.
The AK-12 is chambered in 5.45x39 Russian, the Soviet answer to the 5.56 NATO, while the AK-15 slings the notorious 7.62 Russian the original AK-47 and later AKM ran.
The in-game model of Insurgency: Sandstorm and most other video games is actually the 2011 AK-200 testing variant, which is boxier than the final product, probably to distinguish it from the regular AKs. IRL, the final AK-12 is based on the AK-400 testing variant, with a free floating barrel and the handguard is attached to the receiver and to a revised more rigid and non-removable gas tube, allowing the barrel to remain relatively isolated and flex and vibrate unrestricted for increased accuracy. In the “legacy” models, the lower handguard of the rifle was mounted directly on the barrel with a stamped steel handguard retainer, so the recoil carries into the handguard and affects the rifle’s zero.
The M110A1 is the game’s copyright safe-ish name for the Army and Marine Corps M110 Semi-Automatic Sniper System (SASS), chambered in 7.62 NATO, an evolution of sorts to the SR-25 by KAC and Eugene Stoner, before his passing. Another weapon that came about from lessons learned in the Gulf War, Israel might be familiar with it as the Mk 11 Mod 0, SOCOM’s designation, developed in 1998 and adopted by SOCOM in 2000.
The AK-103 is to the AK-74 what the M4A1 is to the M4. Functionally it’s the same as the post-Cold War AK-74M, streamlined with polymer furniture for reduced weight and other quality of life features that I’m not immediately familiar with.
Legend has it if you say “40 mike-mike” 3 times fast Cameron Fath busts through the wall à la Kool-Aid Man
love this format! more!
I like how they were both like "Nope, not familiar." as the HK unicorn show up.
The "adjustment" on the side of the EOTech and Aimpoint, there at the beginning, is a G33 3x magnifier that you can flip over onto the top rail.
EDIT: Ten seconds later you finally saw it in action, BUT the HK416 is a piston driven gun (still in 5.56) rather than using a DI system. I have some experience with a BCM M4 CQBR build, but I went with a Holosun micro red dot/magnifier for budget purposes. PMAGs are also where its at.
Thumb-over-bore grip has come around mostly due to light/laser activation switches being on the top rail, as well as generally increased understanding of body mechanics.
You should invite Gun TH-camrs such as Garand Thumb, Demolition Ranch, Kentucky Ballistics and Brandon Herrera.
Anyone that is a “TH-camr” that buys guns is NOT an “expert”. I highly doubt these “TH-camrs” been deployed. They are just guys recording videos and make lots of money.
@@alohatigers1199 Actually Garand Thumb is an Airforce TACP and he has deployed and he is very involved in the gun industry so is Brandon Herrera who is actually a gun builder and you don’t have to be in the military to be a weapons expert
@@The_Rogue_Asian_Operator09 ha amatuer hour over here. saying daddy Herrera. Isnt an expert the man literally builds then from the ground up
@@robertdrawdy3749 I know right
@@alohatigers1199 "Make lots of money." Not that easy.
Sure, the guys aren’t up to date with the scopes, accessories and the weapon systems, and they even perpetuated misconceptions about AKs, but they understand a lot of the philosophy behind logistics, and practically. A good example of that was pointing out handguns had to use the same ammo.
one of my favorite vids to date!!! Love Isiah! I WANT MORE!!!!!!
These guys should react to Modern Warfare gunsmith in the next video
With notmal builds vs crazy mods would be cool.
Burger
@@joaosapereira4849 nah cods unrealistic and dumb
@@peepee_panda779 still boring and not fun at all lmao.
Mom can i have jonathan ferguson?
Mom: we have jonathan ferguson at home
Jonathan ferguson at home:
This is too real
HHhahahahahhaha Jonathan is a weapon-God for these 2 noobs
I think this show will really make current games and even future games to research on their weapons more. Good stuff
I would love to see more of this
Awesome video, guys! I find it really enjoyable to hear your take on our mod, it isn't all about being a gun nerd on the internet, we also try to make these guns work as close to real life in game as possible. Your comment about the recoil for example made me happy, as I personally spend hours upon hours tweaking it to make it as good as possible :D
THE GODS HAVE SPOKEN
No, these dudes are stupid. Know nothing about guns.
Agree with the other dude, these guys are idiots
Keep doing what your team likes doing, don't listen to the media.
ANR Design LLC agreed
They don’t really know a lot on how a lot of these new firearms work. Israel knows some of his stuff, but the captain Lars called the AK-12 a 5.45 caliber a 12 gauge. I mean...come on.
"you get half the accuracy but more reliability with the AK" is such clueless statement lmao
Verdugo7 he got his knowledge of ak’s off of call of duty ak stats lol
@@verdugo7974 exactly bro, an accurate statement would be, “you get the reliability and most of the accuracy, but you don’t get the distance, a 7.62x39 it’s effective range it’s only 300 meters, so while you have a lot of stopping power it’s countered by not having a good effective range, when compared to the 5.56 that has a 500 meter effective range” now that’s an accurate statement that doesn’t sound that it was taken from every person that doesn’t know Jack about weapons ever
Well sorry to be that guy but the “weapon specialist” in the right that said the ak isn’t accurate is incorrect.
The AK is inaccurate when it is built in a shack in the mountains of Pakistan. When they're built right they're *almost* as accurate as a similar quality AR.
Compared to an m4.
@@nicholasotto3282 been disproven by multiple people
Ok?? You didn’t clarify whether or not the weapon is using 5.45 or 7.62 ammo. 7.62 yea your definitely not getting the accuracy that an AR has. 5.45 however is fairly similar to 5.56 so if your talking about 5.45 then yes it’s basically just as accurate. I will say I like the AK12 but I prefer longer barrels such as the M16A4 with the 20.
Would love to see more of this!
Israel be like "guns would be such an expensive hobby."
Me, who currently owns 6 guns, but has owned 10 total: "you have no idea."
I've seen dudes in their 50 and 60s who own like 200 guns it's really cool how much they have collected through the years
@@yeeyee395 I would love to own that many. Unfortunately, adulting gets in the way.
@@wolfcraftgames4394 same I dont really have a desire to own that many I have 5 but they all get used frequently but I can understand owning a lot of firearms
@@yeeyee395 there are multiple guns that I want to buy, but they are over a grand each. i.e- .50 AE Desert Eagle, M1A Socom, Colt Python
@@wolfcraftgames4394 yeah I definitely wanna own a 50 call at some point in my life and that can cost thousands
“Ammo is expensive”
Truer words have never been said.
When I was in the military my unit would get standard M16 with no attachments what so ever, however you were allowed in fact to personalize it with pictinny rails, foregrips and stocks, even magazines as far as they were approved by the military ordnance corps. Every kind of grip that would considered cheap or fake was not allowed. In terms of scopes there were ACOGs and simple red dot sights assigned for special roles in the unit.
I can't believe this video came to an end.
Already excited for Ep.2, Ep.3...Ep10 🤣
The new way to grip a gun you were talking about is called "The C clamp" because your hand forms a 'C' when griping the gun. It is one of the best grips to use for shooting for stability.
"Gun Specialists" that aren't familiar with most of the firearms and accessories they are talking about. But they were in the military so they must know everything right?
It's a little disappointing because they know what they're talkin about but all their information is dated. They obviously haven't kept up with gun stuff since getting out of the military.
@@captainpotatoaim1234 yeah, and they try and call them experts.
Glad to see your channel doing well great vids
7:24 Exactly! Same with us in the Canadian forces - come the end of the weekend exercise, on the range. We'd fire full auto on the last day to burn through whatever ammo case was open.
The beginning of another great series!!
As a gun guy this is kinda painful to watch and see how little some people in the military actually know about firearms and firearms laws, bit still good vid.
My favorite that took a few min was his saying the name wrong for the Geissele charging handle lol
Civilians can't own an eotech.... oh thats 10.5 inch barrel it is illegal unless its a AR pistol but then it couldn't have the stock on it.. so also doesn't know tax stamps exist and apparently thinks california is the whole US. Total cringefest
I just love how they talk about the guns and attachments😂😂
Ah yes, another perfect example of just because someone is in the military doesn’t mean they know everything about guns
TLDR: the last person you should ask about guns, is a soldier. they know their gun, and thats about it...
Truth. The talk about the HK416, AK12, MP7 and about the inaccuracy of the AK was disappointing.
‘Weapons expert’: AK-12, is that a 12 gauge AK?
"The ak is way less accurate but you can run it in mud!" Its funny how stupid assumptions made by nobodies get exaggerated and propagated so easily. The ak, depending on the cartridge isn't that much more inaccurate than your standard m4, and the m4 runs way better in mud but can get gunk from its own action over time, the ak won't suffer from that problem that much.
@@turkeyhamman4111 yeah and the AK isn’t any slouch for accuracy especially depending who is shooting it and I think everyone has seen the mud test on in range by now
@@jeremyortlepp8000 not these guys apparently, but yeab depends on the cartridge we're talking
The Drum Mags you both talk about and the soft pouch I used the soft pouch with a LMG in Afghanistan when I was in the British Army. It held a belt of 100 rounds and I had a larger one which held 200.
Love the gun specialist calling the magnifier a windage knob at first. Also, the HK416 is a totally different rifle than an M4, it's still 5.56 as well. Holy guacamole.
Eh, it's basically the same, except for being a piston system rather than gas Impingement system.
"totally different" sure buddy, sure.
They kept Israel and got rid of the other guy lol. The other guy never seemed like he wanted to be there as opposed to Israel he’s always hype, positive and smiling.
The other guy will never be replaced, best reactor on the channel
Cameron will be back. He had covid that week and we will do more experts react videos together.
@@MyHappySelf hope he gets well soon
you should get Zach from mikeburnsfire onto the show.
for something like this I think someone who was a small arms repairman would be great
Great, another 2 hour rant, just what we need. By the way, were dinosaurs pre-war, or pre-pre-war?
@@themarquisdepressed2013 they where pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre war
My favorite setup is HK416, 14.5 inch barrel, with Eotech XPS and G33 combo, stubby grip, bipod, 392 Hemi 5 speed automatic, Restomod AC, aluminum radiator, with brand new leather seat.
I’m no operator but I’ve been playing first person shooters my entire life and the scar was always one of my favorites. I’m pretty sure it’s ambidextrous so when you throw the folding stock on the right hand side of the rifle fire selector safety and mag release are all still available on the left-hand side