Hey nice vid! Would love to see more untwinked char gameplay! 1. Nice riffing about the blue haired holy jeeezus of D2! XD 2. You said you play vanilla single player, do you transfer items you found between your characters or are the items found with the specific character? I use to mule with multiple diablo2 running on LAN, then with plugy and on Bnet, but I abandoned all this like 5-6 years ago and now only play selffound characters, they take more time to twink but always end up a bit different then a twinked version, like I just "finnished" a lvl91 sorc she started as a common cold sorc but went for 200%FCR Fireball/Nova, then I found all the Tal sets and now she is a tri elementalist Blizz/Fireball/ChargedBolt+Lightning and I could get a SOJ and Bul-Kathos on her, so proud! XD 3. Where do you find all your skiller grand charms in singleplayer? I run lowerkurast, reroll grandcharms, ID all the grandcharms still it is very rare to have more then 1-2 skillers on a character... 4. Do the streams, or just record your play with commentary, it is more fun to play also! And we need more f..ks in D2 streams or just no cursing and man just think about all the money you could make, I mean all the money you cold STEAL from other streamers!!! This is the main point here, start streaming so just the others will get less, they don't deserv it!!! Get they moneyzzzzzzzz!!! Get it! Do it! Do it now!!!
I use GoMule to transfer items, I mf on a few characters, usually favoring one for a while and switching when I get bored. Most of my stuff has been found on my hammerdin, some by my AT blizz sorc, some by my relatively new pindle run hork barb. And I occasionally find stuff when I'm just messing around on other characters.No specific place I find my skillers.. all over. I do wonder how much money I could make streaming honestly lol. Dudes stream and make money for stuff I just do alone lol. But there are times when I hardly play for weeks on end, and often I'll only play for 10-15 minutes at a time, maybe a few times a day if I'm playing a lot. I go through phases with it
@@kruggers1329 Thx for the info, well if you want to make money from it consider that you need some solid vids with flashy edit to get some base, then as you said it streaming needs to be regularly and somewhat scheduled, if this fits your life then go for it, but force it only slightly and you will fail (=burn out...) ;) Casual recorded gameplay with commentary would be super nice, but that will get you only views not donations.
nice video again dude. agreed on the avoid/dodge passives... most guides said to 1 point wonder them but i had to spec out of those on my javazon to get through hell due to getting animation locked and just went max block with the stormshield to make up for it. way better turnout IMO. using a smoke dusk shroud now cuz no ber rune yet for that coh. najs plate is pretty nice but i really like having max res on most of my builds. i like that you do hybrid builds.... a lot more practical in most cases. that clutch silence where im never expecting it! I use plugy personally, but self impose no insight/spirit/oath/obedience/grief/fortitude... ban on stuff that costs so little for how much it gives....that can be a gray area and even though its still arguably OP, i do allow infinity because it costs 2 ber but im not even halfway to making one yet, lol. I find a lot of ohms for some reason and not many other HR. i think im going to make that silence hydra and try out the full hybrid.
Yeah i cubed up a few runes to get this ber, I haven't really been magic finding so I'm pretty rune poor at the moment (except I have 5 jah's... for some reason that is the hr I tend to find quite a bit, plus it's strikingly not useful besides in engima/cubing up). Would love to make an ebotdz some day but somehow haven't found an eth zerker, let alone a sup one. I agree many ladder-only runewords are OP in single player, I have thought about getting plugY multiple times because I do think some of them are fair for the cost and really cool (I would have loved to make an ice for this build, for example). So far I can't bring myself to do it lol
@@kruggers1329 understandable man... you're pretty deep in gomule (think that's what its called ) at this point. might not be so easy to move that stuff to plugy, no idea what would be involved with that though. multiple backups before any attempt for sure... im so paranoid i have an automated synctoy process that runs at 4am every night, backing up my plugy stash and characters to google drive. ya know so in case of a flood or fire, i can rest assured knowing my D2 gear is safe somewhere on the googly farm lol. your content is actually what inspired me to make some of those limitations for myself, really enjoyed seeing you work around some of the problems that arise from not having ladder only RWs by using game knowledge and overlooked gear. i also don't use anni or torch for similar reasons... that all res and stats just make it too easy to go full power gear as you dont have to consider balancing the stats around in your equipment as much. though id be lying if i said i wasnt tempted to just throw spirits and insights at my characters now and again but when i really think about it in most cases it's more fun to work around that stuff than it is to just use some OP gear to break it :) ice would be clutch for her, and being able to throw a faith on an A1 merc always sounded interesting to me. maybe ill post a video some day when ive farmed enough to make that stuff hehe
Holy shit,that is exactly the build that i wanted to use after i finish my Blova Sorc based on your strategy. Guess i'll have next inspiration from you I guess.
I have a pure BowZon, main skill Strafe - I keep her at low resistance, use Knockback, Decoy and Valkyrie to keep enemies away. Pump obscene amounts of dex for the damage...hoping to someday get a Zod for the BotD Collossus Crossbow. I stuck a Tomb Reaver on my merc, but honestly, she can take down phys immunes with lots of elemental damage charms. She can handle herself pretty well, but I wouldn't bump it up to players 8.
You can't leech with elemental or magical damage only your physical base damage from your arrow or your javelin. Plus when you pierce your projectile explodes and what passed though with Javs is lightning itself not the javelin so it only leeches 1 time and the arrow only triggers leech on the first enemy hit and the first enemy hit after piercing. In other words, leech is generally only effective on Bowazons using strafe, and multi shot. Javezons really just can't leech effectively you are better off chugging mana pots. Mana per kill is way better on a java and leech must better on bowa. Honestly bro your gloves are trash and so is your manald heal! Get some better gloves and a ring with a ton on mana and energy. Make some caster rings or whatever give you mana regen and mana or energy and after 10 rolls you will have at least 2 that are WAY better then a manald heal. Gloves should really be plus to java skills because Lightning Fury has 5 synergies that are getting plus skills where freezing arrow only has 1. And you got it right with the helm, Griffons is great but the lightning damage is still really good so Nightwings is the way to go to balance out your cold damage. But yeah with 158 mana I can't really take the duel spec serious mine has like 500 Mana. But at the end of the day dude chug mana pots it is ALWAYS better to drink some mana potions then change out gear that could be best in slot, just for mana. In my belt I have Mana pots in slot 1 and full Rejuvs in 2-4 I am always chugging mana pots. Best bow for this build is an Upped Witchwild string. Amazing resists and attack speed, 2 sockets, and when it is Upped it has the best minimum damage out if every single bow in the game and with the 1% deadly strike per level on it, it also has very close to the best average damage in the game. Throw 2 cold facets in it and that with a Nightwings will do so so much cold damage. The last thing is Razortail is actually the worst in slot belt for Amazon's!! I swear by this one.. if you have 70 pierce from your skill, the extra 30% isn't even noticeable in my experience. Seriously go kill shenk and eldritch 5 times with Razortail then put TGods on or something and go kill them 5 times and tell me if you notice a difference in kill speed, I never have. Razortail is meant for like throw barbs and stuff I believe. Then you can do crazy things like run Trangs belt which has Cannot be frozen and drop the raven frost for a Wisp Projecter to destroy souls or run a belt with IAS like Nos coil or the Mf belt and you can swap out highlords for a maras. Fishyzon builds will never be the same or cookie cutter because the strength in the build is the ability to flex so much gear. The javs I use are magic 3skills and 40%IAS so all I need for attack speed is the 15% to reach the breakpoint of 52% so I run my GG 2/20 crafted blood gloves with all res and Mf and do not use any attack speed besides that. I can run a Maras and do not need any IAS jewels. Nice guide, cheers bro!
That Dodge/Evade/Avoid bug (a.k.a. DEA bug) is old as the game itself and it sucks. They should've made them scale with FHR so that the char wouldn't get stun-locked all the time. Also wouldn't Melody in +3 bow or Wizendraw be better? Melody would give +6 bow skills. Wizendraw would give -(20 - 35)% Enemy Cold Resistance. No huge res though.
Very funny build, I'm just leveling my own girl to 70 and then gotta try Hell. Speaking of your gear... I know that I'm three years late to the party, but I'd try to craft some Caster gloves, the stuff needed is easy to get and they can spawn with Ama skills (bow+xbow preferably), some res, and of course the +1 to +3 maek.
@@kruggers1329 Yeah, with IAS, +bow and Fire Res, they're pretty cool. What I realized is that there is not much to do with all the gems, it's not like we can trade them for anything in single player, and the Caster Gloves need just Ort, Perfect Amethyst and any crappy jewel. So I craft them any time I got the needed stuff. I also tried the Blood Gloves, but I find maek a bit more helpful than CB, as I also play vanilla and thus I cannot have Insight. I rolled a lot of them with either +zon tree and/or double res, but I'm still waiting for the 2/20 dual res. I also tried to craft Safety maiden javs, but even after dozens of tries, I never really got anything useful. This recipe needs Sol, I don't try it anymore. Very stylish bow! I use +2 bow with 3os (one shael) and I'm one Ko away from Melody. :-)
@@alexandrbatora9674 haha nice nice. I use all my gems to roll baal grand charms.. probably crafting would be a better use lol i just can't get it together
@@kruggers1329 YEp, GC rolling is nice, too. I've spent a LOT of otherwise useless perfect gems for this, but I never really rolled any skiller (nor anything remotely useful like max all res, max life), so I stopped doing it. It was just demoralizing... :-D
yeahh it's a bit subjective of course whats OP and what's not, but basically I feel there are some runewords that are appropriately powerful for how much they cost to make, and others that aren't
@@kruggers1329 I am overcome with "grief", because I don't think he feels the "spirit" of this answer, maybe he will be thinking about it to forever, or should I say to "infinity". Regardless, let's have "faith" that the "insight" will come soon.
I think fishy prefix comes from the guy who came up with both the fishymancer and fishyzon build guides named Nightfish.
Beat me to it
Also author of the fishymancer
Nightfish was a literal HC build making God... and he just dissapeared
Yeah dude your definitely one of the best d2 TH-camrs for sure. Nice burn btw 💪
Very fun build, I like your take on it with Silence RW! I found SOJ helped my hybrids mana situation but she does lack in the resistance department.
yeah gettin res is pretty tough, that's why i opted for silence. Drives a lot the choices for this build in fact
Hey nice vid! Would love to see more untwinked char gameplay!
1. Nice riffing about the blue haired holy jeeezus of D2! XD
2. You said you play vanilla single player, do you transfer items you found between your characters or are the items found with the specific character? I use to mule with multiple diablo2 running on LAN, then with plugy and on Bnet, but I abandoned all this like 5-6 years ago and now only play selffound characters, they take more time to twink but always end up a bit different then a twinked version, like I just "finnished" a lvl91 sorc she started as a common cold sorc but went for 200%FCR Fireball/Nova, then I found all the Tal sets and now she is a tri elementalist Blizz/Fireball/ChargedBolt+Lightning and I could get a SOJ and Bul-Kathos on her, so proud! XD
3. Where do you find all your skiller grand charms in singleplayer? I run lowerkurast, reroll grandcharms, ID all the grandcharms still it is very rare to have more then 1-2 skillers on a character...
4. Do the streams, or just record your play with commentary, it is more fun to play also! And we need more f..ks in D2 streams or just no cursing and man just think about all the money you could make, I mean all the money you cold STEAL from other streamers!!! This is the main point here, start streaming so just the others will get less, they don't deserv it!!! Get they moneyzzzzzzzz!!! Get it! Do it! Do it now!!!
I use GoMule to transfer items, I mf on a few characters, usually favoring one for a while and switching when I get bored. Most of my stuff has been found on my hammerdin, some by my AT blizz sorc, some by my relatively new pindle run hork barb. And I occasionally find stuff when I'm just messing around on other characters.No specific place I find my skillers.. all over.
I do wonder how much money I could make streaming honestly lol. Dudes stream and make money for stuff I just do alone lol. But there are times when I hardly play for weeks on end, and often I'll only play for 10-15 minutes at a time, maybe a few times a day if I'm playing a lot. I go through phases with it
@@kruggers1329 Thx for the info, well if you want to make money from it consider that you need some solid vids with flashy edit to get some base, then as you said it streaming needs to be regularly and somewhat scheduled, if this fits your life then go for it, but force it only slightly and you will fail (=burn out...) ;)
Casual recorded gameplay with commentary would be super nice, but that will get you only views not donations.
nice video again dude. agreed on the avoid/dodge passives... most guides said to 1 point wonder them but i had to spec out of those on my javazon to get through hell due to getting animation locked and just went max block with the stormshield to make up for it. way better turnout IMO. using a smoke dusk shroud now cuz no ber rune yet for that coh. najs plate is pretty nice but i really like having max res on most of my builds.
i like that you do hybrid builds.... a lot more practical in most cases. that clutch silence where im never expecting it! I use plugy personally, but self impose no insight/spirit/oath/obedience/grief/fortitude... ban on stuff that costs so little for how much it gives....that can be a gray area and even though its still arguably OP, i do allow infinity because it costs 2 ber but im not even halfway to making one yet, lol. I find a lot of ohms for some reason and not many other HR. i think im going to make that silence hydra and try out the full hybrid.
Yeah i cubed up a few runes to get this ber, I haven't really been magic finding so I'm pretty rune poor at the moment (except I have 5 jah's... for some reason that is the hr I tend to find quite a bit, plus it's strikingly not useful besides in engima/cubing up). Would love to make an ebotdz some day but somehow haven't found an eth zerker, let alone a sup one.
I agree many ladder-only runewords are OP in single player, I have thought about getting plugY multiple times because I do think some of them are fair for the cost and really cool (I would have loved to make an ice for this build, for example). So far I can't bring myself to do it lol
@@kruggers1329 understandable man... you're pretty deep in gomule (think that's what its called ) at this point. might not be so easy to move that stuff to plugy, no idea what would be involved with that though. multiple backups before any attempt for sure... im so paranoid i have an automated synctoy process that runs at 4am every night, backing up my plugy stash and characters to google drive. ya know so in case of a flood or fire, i can rest assured knowing my D2 gear is safe somewhere on the googly farm lol.
your content is actually what inspired me to make some of those limitations for myself, really enjoyed seeing you work around some of the problems that arise from not having ladder only RWs by using game knowledge and overlooked gear. i also don't use anni or torch for similar reasons... that all res and stats just make it too easy to go full power gear as you dont have to consider balancing the stats around in your equipment as much.
though id be lying if i said i wasnt tempted to just throw spirits and insights at my characters now and again but when i really think about it in most cases it's more fun to work around that stuff than it is to just use some OP gear to break it :)
ice would be clutch for her, and being able to throw a faith on an A1 merc always sounded interesting to me. maybe ill post a video some day when ive farmed enough to make that stuff hehe
Krugsy we all want more videos let’s gooooooooo
Im here my Boy because of D2R thank you for the Guide :-)
Holy shit,that is exactly the build that i wanted to use after i finish my Blova Sorc based on your strategy. Guess i'll have next inspiration from you I guess.
heyheyyy there you go
I shall avoid Avoid thank you, sir!
*OH MY GOD AN UPDATE*
Amazing video, now gonna level a bow/fury amazon.
If you drop a Windforce, I'd recommend giving it a go with this build. The high phys damage makes leeching freezing arrows super easy.
hmm word i'll try it for sure, If i ever do finally get one lol
All builds existed before xtimus started making videos haha. But really cool build. Love freezing arrow myself
I always choose Emilio as merc, hes my bro
I choose him too cause its my brothers name haha
Crescent moon amulet might be a better choice for mana efficiency. Had a friend on bnet praise it on his javazon.
I have a pure BowZon, main skill Strafe - I keep her at low resistance, use Knockback, Decoy and Valkyrie to keep enemies away. Pump obscene amounts of dex for the damage...hoping to someday get a Zod for the BotD Collossus Crossbow. I stuck a Tomb Reaver on my merc, but honestly, she can take down phys immunes with lots of elemental damage charms. She can handle herself pretty well, but I wouldn't bump it up to players 8.
yeah I have a pure bowzon too, using strafe. I have a vid up but i've made a few changes since. I use atma's scarab to cast amp dmg for phys immunes
A new video??? What a suprise:)
You can't leech with elemental or magical damage only your physical base damage from your arrow or your javelin. Plus when you pierce your projectile explodes and what passed though with Javs is lightning itself not the javelin so it only leeches 1 time and the arrow only triggers leech on the first enemy hit and the first enemy hit after piercing. In other words, leech is generally only effective on Bowazons using strafe, and multi shot. Javezons really just can't leech effectively you are better off chugging mana pots. Mana per kill is way better on a java and leech must better on bowa. Honestly bro your gloves are trash and so is your manald heal! Get some better gloves and a ring with a ton on mana and energy. Make some caster rings or whatever give you mana regen and mana or energy and after 10 rolls you will have at least 2 that are WAY better then a manald heal. Gloves should really be plus to java skills because Lightning Fury has 5 synergies that are getting plus skills where freezing arrow only has 1. And you got it right with the helm, Griffons is great but the lightning damage is still really good so Nightwings is the way to go to balance out your cold damage. But yeah with 158 mana I can't really take the duel spec serious mine has like 500 Mana. But at the end of the day dude chug mana pots it is ALWAYS better to drink some mana potions then change out gear that could be best in slot, just for mana. In my belt I have Mana pots in slot 1 and full Rejuvs in 2-4 I am always chugging mana pots. Best bow for this build is an Upped Witchwild string. Amazing resists and attack speed, 2 sockets, and when it is Upped it has the best minimum damage out if every single bow in the game and with the 1% deadly strike per level on it, it also has very close to the best average damage in the game. Throw 2 cold facets in it and that with a Nightwings will do so so much cold damage. The last thing is Razortail is actually the worst in slot belt for Amazon's!! I swear by this one.. if you have 70 pierce from your skill, the extra 30% isn't even noticeable in my experience. Seriously go kill shenk and eldritch 5 times with Razortail then put TGods on or something and go kill them 5 times and tell me if you notice a difference in kill speed, I never have. Razortail is meant for like throw barbs and stuff I believe. Then you can do crazy things like run Trangs belt which has Cannot be frozen and drop the raven frost for a Wisp Projecter to destroy souls or run a belt with IAS like Nos coil or the Mf belt and you can swap out highlords for a maras. Fishyzon builds will never be the same or cookie cutter because the strength in the build is the ability to flex so much gear. The javs I use are magic 3skills and 40%IAS so all I need for attack speed is the 15% to reach the breakpoint of 52% so I run my GG 2/20 crafted blood gloves with all res and Mf and do not use any attack speed besides that. I can run a Maras and do not need any IAS jewels. Nice guide, cheers bro!
That Dodge/Evade/Avoid bug (a.k.a. DEA bug) is old as the game itself and it sucks. They should've made them scale with FHR so that the char wouldn't get stun-locked all the time.
Also wouldn't Melody in +3 bow or Wizendraw be better? Melody would give +6 bow skills. Wizendraw would give -(20 - 35)% Enemy Cold Resistance. No huge res though.
Very funny build, I'm just leveling my own girl to 70 and then gotta try Hell.
Speaking of your gear... I know that I'm three years late to the party, but I'd try to craft some Caster gloves, the stuff needed is easy to get and they can spawn with Ama skills (bow+xbow preferably), some res, and of course the +1 to +3 maek.
haha sounds good, I feel like it'd take quite a while before I got better gloves than these though (not that they're so great)
@@kruggers1329 Yeah, with IAS, +bow and Fire Res, they're pretty cool. What I realized is that there is not much to do with all the gems, it's not like we can trade them for anything in single player, and the Caster Gloves need just Ort, Perfect Amethyst and any crappy jewel. So I craft them any time I got the needed stuff. I also tried the Blood Gloves, but I find maek a bit more helpful than CB, as I also play vanilla and thus I cannot have Insight. I rolled a lot of them with either +zon tree and/or double res, but I'm still waiting for the 2/20 dual res.
I also tried to craft Safety maiden javs, but even after dozens of tries, I never really got anything useful. This recipe needs Sol, I don't try it anymore.
Very stylish bow! I use +2 bow with 3os (one shael) and I'm one Ko away from Melody. :-)
@@alexandrbatora9674 haha nice nice. I use all my gems to roll baal grand charms.. probably crafting would be a better use lol i just can't get it together
@@kruggers1329 YEp, GC rolling is nice, too. I've spent a LOT of otherwise useless perfect gems for this, but I never really rolled any skiller (nor anything remotely useful like max all res, max life), so I stopped doing it. It was just demoralizing... :-D
Crescent moon amulet for mana leech would hlp a bit.
But Javazon is possibly the best boss killer in the game, charged strike is insane, kills bosses so fast.
I noticed you are not using pluggy. How do you move your items from one character to another?
GoMule yo
I feel like a java zon could run the game naked. Probably a mod for that..
I have never understood fishy as a prefix for build names...
Guy who made fishymancer and this build is called nightfish on forums
Kruggersssssss
I need a Mal for my cta bow and a jah for enigma and my fishyzon is complete. Level 92 untwinked and she can walk hell easy, just need some speed
oohh sounds a-good-ah
Yeah I think cta switch is not bad idea, gotta use what ya can on single player
Mana heavy build? Just use Insi-- oh...right...never mind.
:P
1:18
No torch or anni?
ancients/diablo clone arent available in vanilla single player so I dont have them. I think they are a little bit overpowered anyway though
"the game was meant to be played without OP runewords" uses CoH and Silence
yeahh it's a bit subjective of course whats OP and what's not, but basically I feel there are some runewords that are appropriately powerful for how much they cost to make, and others that aren't
@@kruggers1329 I am overcome with "grief", because I don't think he feels the "spirit" of this answer, maybe he will be thinking about it to forever, or should I say to "infinity". Regardless, let's have "faith" that the "insight" will come soon.
avoid avoid