I love my GT4 and would love to hear that RS engine in it, but it would be hard to drive the GT4RS for anything more than a canyon or track day with that intense volume hitting the ears each day, no matter how glorious the sound is. The 911 GT3 makes that engine more livable on a daily basis. Driving these cars frequently is what makes Porsche ownership so special and makes them truly SUPER cars.
Epic comparo! No need to decide. One of each as shown in the video is perfection! The GT4RS punches well above its weight at even $250k - $350k. I spent months comparing it back to back with other cars in this range before pulling the trigger. A true unicorn now on its way to becoming Porsche Legend.
As someone who has owed 2 PDK gt3, 1 manual, a gt3rs, and now a gt4rs, I can say that the gt3rs is faster, but the Gt4rs is more fun. Haven't taking the 4rs to the track yet, but soon.
Great review!!! I was in the fortunate position to drive both of these cars a few weeks ago. The GT3 was the 2022 and I drove the GT4RS first and was completely amazed by the sound. Unless you have been in this car to hear the sounds it makes you cannot understand. I also have a 458 with a full exhaust and the GT4RS sounds are on par if not better. I am a tried and true manual driver and am very partial, and the GT3 felt more touring and assisted than the 4RS. Was one of the best manuals I've driven but the 4RS won for me so I took it home! I am also lucky to have the magnesium rims and carbon ceramics too! Love it!!!
I don't think the people who get the opportunity to buy the GT4RS care that is is more expensive than the older 911 GT. The resale value on the GT4RS in its limited numbers will guarantee its resale value.
Was waiting on this one. Nicely done. It’s no surprise the 4RS is the pick for many. A closer comparison would be the 991.2 RS. Both PDK and literally identical in front suspension. The steering input may be closer to the 4RS based on owner reviews of the 991.2 RS. The rear wheel steering would may give the edge to the 991.2 RS in the canyon and on track. In any case, you’re the man to get all these cars to the canyons. Stay safe and look forward to the next one.
Love it! Always enjoy your reviews. 4RS straight to the top of the Z-index ;) Like the shout to find a new 3RS next haha...then it will be time for a test of a 918...
So if a change of tires would be so helpful to the 911, just imagine if the engine was moved to the middle!! 😃 Gotta love a manual transmission though ...
4RS every day of the week, there is something very special about the RS models a level of nuance, finesse and feel the standard GT4 or GT3 just don't have. The 991.2 GT3 is a great car the front track is just a bit narrow - the 991.2 GT3 RS really took the 991 series to another level with wider front track and tires giving phenomenal front end grip. The 992.1 GT3 is more or less a footprint and suspension copy of the 991.2 GT3 RS (but with double wishbone front) but the 991.2 GT3 RS remains significantly more visceral and engaging. TBH the 992 GT3 RS isn't much different, marginally quicker on fast open circuits.
Yeah it would be a tough choice performance wise between the 991.2 RS and the 4RS. It may just come down to a few personal preferences: intake vs exhaust sound, visibility while driving, exterior looks, stance, etc.
@@onlinesearch4134 I like both, the footprint of the 4RS "feels" significantly smaller - gives it a real sense of intimacy. They both feel and look special, very attached to my 991.2 GT3 RS - has real "presence" 😀
Both great cars, but the price of admission is quite steep! How much does one have to make to be able to comfortably afford one of these without compromising their retirement / financial goals?
Any chance of testing a spyder rs vs gt4rs or gt3 ? Wondering if the softer suspension of the spyder rs is better on the road in addition to the open top experience
As good as the GT4RS is, it's still missing a manual, shorter gearing, and double wishbone to be perfect. Sadly, I doubt Porsche will build another generation with an internal combustion engine to make those adjustments.
@@blazinpond My bad. All previous Caymans and the 981 GT4 are notorious for their long gearing, including my 987.2. Fortunately, Porsche fixed it on this last iteration.
Right on. It's not the highest performing, but it is my favorite. The suspension is magic and what gives it the edge on the gt4 in my book. And I prefer the balance and feel of the 718 over the 9 eleven.
Calls a 74 mph 2nd gear short! *Laughs in Miata* but seriously a manual version with a shorter final drive would probably make the ultimate factory canyon car. Obviously with the right tuning you could build anything to be great though.
I love my GT4 and would love to hear that RS engine in it, but it would be hard to drive the GT4RS for anything more than a canyon or track day with that intense volume hitting the ears each day, no matter how glorious the sound is. The 911 GT3 makes that engine more livable on a daily basis. Driving these cars frequently is what makes Porsche ownership so special and makes them truly SUPER cars.
Well said
I daily my 4rs and love it.
Gorgeous spec on the 991....911 all day and twice on Sunday. The manual is half of the driving experience!
Epic comparo! No need to decide. One of each as shown in the video is perfection! The GT4RS punches well above its weight at even $250k - $350k. I spent months comparing it back to back with other cars in this range before pulling the trigger. A true unicorn now on its way to becoming Porsche Legend.
as much as I love the GT4 RS, it does not deserve a market value of $230-250k
Yet the market values it as such 🤷🏻
@@kcw9313 yeah because Porsche artificially limits allocations for GT cars
Good luck ever getting one for less when the world finds out there's less than 1000
There are 7,000 GT4RS what are u talking about
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As someone who has owed 2 PDK gt3, 1 manual, a gt3rs, and now a gt4rs, I can say that the gt3rs is faster, but the Gt4rs is more fun. Haven't taking the 4rs to the track yet, but soon.
Great review!!! I was in the fortunate position to drive both of these cars a few weeks ago. The GT3 was the 2022 and I drove the GT4RS first and was completely amazed by the sound. Unless you have been in this car to hear the sounds it makes you cannot understand. I also have a 458 with a full exhaust and the GT4RS sounds are on par if not better. I am a tried and true manual driver and am very partial, and the GT3 felt more touring and assisted than the 4RS. Was one of the best manuals I've driven but the 4RS won for me so I took it home! I am also lucky to have the magnesium rims and carbon ceramics too! Love it!!!
so good to see you driving these cars! As always, excellent and genuine reviews.
I don't think the people who get the opportunity to buy the GT4RS care that is is more expensive than the older 911 GT. The resale value on the GT4RS in its limited numbers will guarantee its resale value.
Love the ending. Just a great touch to these great drives. 4RS still has the screen film too! Great comparison. Keep ‘em coming!
I would choose 4rs juz for the intake sound inside the cabin
Was waiting on this one. Nicely done. It’s no surprise the 4RS is the pick for many. A closer comparison would be the 991.2 RS. Both PDK and literally identical in front suspension. The steering input may be closer to the 4RS based on owner reviews of the 991.2 RS. The rear wheel steering would may give the edge to the 991.2 RS in the canyon and on track. In any case, you’re the man to get all these cars to the canyons. Stay safe and look forward to the next one.
Love it! Always enjoy your reviews. 4RS straight to the top of the Z-index ;) Like the shout to find a new 3RS next haha...then it will be time for a test of a 918...
Saw a red GT4RS on 580 in Pleasanton yesterday. Looks stunning.
Ngl i would pay 30k more for that cabin noise
So if a change of tires would be so helpful to the 911, just imagine if the engine was moved to the middle!! 😃 Gotta love a manual transmission though ...
Great video. It would be a tough call but my pick would be the gt4.
your laugh is classic dude!
GREAT review!
No bad Choices between these two. Cayman for me please 🙏
What location is this? I don’t believe there are any roads like this in Washington.
ps4s on gt3 is approaching 10k miles so need a fresh set of cup2 soon!
4RS every day of the week, there is something very special about the RS models a level of nuance, finesse and feel the standard GT4 or GT3 just don't have. The 991.2 GT3 is a great car the front track is just a bit narrow - the 991.2 GT3 RS really took the 991 series to another level with wider front track and tires giving phenomenal front end grip. The 992.1 GT3 is more or less a footprint and suspension copy of the 991.2 GT3 RS (but with double wishbone front) but the 991.2 GT3 RS remains significantly more visceral and engaging. TBH the 992 GT3 RS isn't much different, marginally quicker on fast open circuits.
Well said and definitely agree having owned (and thoroughly driven) all the cars you mentioned except the 992 3RS (my allocation is 'freezing' soon).
Yeah it would be a tough choice performance wise between the 991.2 RS and the 4RS. It may just come down to a few personal preferences: intake vs exhaust sound, visibility while driving, exterior looks, stance, etc.
@@onlinesearch4134 I like both, the footprint of the 4RS "feels" significantly smaller - gives it a real sense of intimacy. They both feel and look special, very attached to my 991.2 GT3 RS - has real "presence" 😀
This is exactly what Im stuck on - lower mileage pre-owned 991.2 gt3rs or a MY25 gr4rs allocation…🤔
@@SSStinger6 I have the 991.2 GT3 RS and although I like the 4RS, the 991.2 GT3 RS just feels more special - both are fantastic.
Great video. Get a hold of a Ferrari 458 at some point to compare it to those amazing Porsches.
Both great cars, but the price of admission is quite steep! How much does one have to make to be able to comfortably afford one of these without compromising their retirement / financial goals?
$500K
How does the RS compare to the black Spyder you tested a few months ago? Is that mines road btw?
Any chance of testing a spyder rs vs gt4rs or gt3 ? Wondering if the softer suspension of the spyder rs is better on the road in addition to the open top experience
Always wondering how big the difference is between a GT3 and a Carrera T
As good as the GT4RS is, it's still missing a manual, shorter gearing, and double wishbone to be perfect. Sadly, I doubt Porsche will build another generation with an internal combustion engine to make those adjustments.
Long gearing...really? Something tells me you haven't driven let alone, own one.
@@blazinpond My bad. All previous Caymans and the 981 GT4 are notorious for their long gearing, including my 987.2. Fortunately, Porsche fixed it on this last iteration.
Gearing is actually super short on this GT4RS. Rather, the manual transmission GT4's are the ones that are longer geared.
@@nls8520 You're right. I'd forgotten this fact since it launched. My Cayman's gearing on the other hand is still very long though 😅
Someone please get Fenton a 992 to review!!
I prefer the driving balance of the cayman, but the manual transmission of the gt3
Changing back down to first whilst moving 😂
A GT3, but you're even closer to the engine (i.e. the entire reason you wanted a GT3)
This is not an either or. These are the two to own!!
Mid engine RS. Chef’s kiss
Today we discovered the hot water:
The Cayman is a better 911.
Do you prefer the 991 or 992 GT3 manual?
That exact comparison video goes live 5/26!
Can’t wait, you are awesome
Would love to know how it the gt4rs compares to the 987 Cayman S is the DNA 🧬 there😅
The DNA is definitely there
Manual car all day everyday 👌🏾❤️👌🏾
How many ENGINES can do 9000 RPM
can you share the location?
If you can get your hands on a 718 Spyder, it's highly recommended. My favorite of them all.
I reviewed one recently! Actually I reviewed it twice. Both videos on the channel.
Right on. It's not the highest performing, but it is my favorite. The suspension is magic and what gives it the edge on the gt4 in my book. And I prefer the balance and feel of the 718 over the 9 eleven.
991 gt3 rs sound is good...
and gt4 rs is louder
Obvious answer is BOTH
gt4 sound only inside , outside its a Dyson Hover ..... so bad sound outside
LA GT3 garde heureusement l’esthétique bien supérieure à n’importe quel booster 🥰👌
Calls a 74 mph 2nd gear short! *Laughs in Miata* but seriously a manual version with a shorter final drive would probably make the ultimate factory canyon car. Obviously with the right tuning you could build anything to be great though.
What’s the point? A 2018 car vs a 2023 car. Hahaha. Waste of time as we know the 911 GT3 RS (992) is better tnan the GT3 RS (991.2).
Comparing both horribly overpriced cars.
Rear isn’t nice
That’s the main issue