Scarface 1 is just fucking insane, tied with Cipher as the most powerful Ace: It took Razgriz Squadron assistance to fell Scinfaxi and Hrimfaxi. Phoenix felled what's theorized to be the original of their kind in Fensalir and Folkvangr... *by himself,* the latter of which was armed with a guided nuke which Phoenix chased down and destroyed. It took Mobius 1 an entire air force and ground assault troops to assist him to take down Megalith. Meanwhile, Phoenix took down Fortress Intolerance, the original of Megalith's kind, by himself (or with one wingman at max) right after going through what's basically the superior successor of the Morgan, one-upping even *Cipher.* Mobius 1 struggled against Yellow Squadron throughout most of the Second Continental War. Phoenix took down what's flat-out described as Erusea's strongest squadron in Albireo, once again, either by himself or with a wingman. Plus, you know how much of a bastard it was to deal with Mobius 1 in The Gauntlet? Try fighting Scarface 1 in Operation X on Ace Difficulty! He's the superboss of that game along with Z.O.E. for a reason! The best part? There are other feats we don't know, as his aircraft's lore about him in Infinity imply that the events of Air Combat and Legacy are, I quote, "yet another page to his book of legendary feats."
It still took him being in a superplane to shoot down an A.I. in a superplane. Cipher imo is better. No need for a superplane, just his F-15C and being too pissed off to die.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 never bad mouth an ace, every ace is called legendary for a reason, not opinion or bias, combat logs are used for a reason, if all the aces had to fight each other, everyone would run out of fuel or missiles, they are that equal to each other. I feel like most of the community doesn’t pay attention at all during the story, m1 was respected for generations, yet the fandom under play his missions, and I feel like he never needed a squad but to prove a point he works well as a team leader as well.
Its more like Project Aces went back to AC2's remake: Cross Rumble. That game also introduced the concept of Usea states being against Osean presence on their continent.
@@MobiusLeader007 I have the remake, honestly, that game is wasted. They gave stupid lines to the characters and didn't talk at all about the relationships between Osea and Usea. It's kinda like if the trailer talks more about it than the game itself, and I'm very confused about Usea's political situation. It was kinda like if the sounther-Usea states were ok about Osea's influence, and all the northern nations were not (to be fair, it would make sense like this since in AC7 Fort Grays has Osean planes, and the ISEV has been built in the southern part of the country)
@@LoScorpioneRosso1 I agree. The political tensions and the fear of Osean influence in Usea are only mentioned in one cinematic and never again. Its possible to play the game and never even see that cinematic as it only plays on the start menu. I was surprised Project Aces reused the idea for AC7, as they didn't explore it at all in Cross Rumble.
The fact AC7's enemies and a lot of Strangreal's lore were already being planned in the second game is impressive, wonder how much they had planned for Ace Combat at the time
You want more mindblowing stuff? Yeager in AC7 keeps yapping about his son, guess what, his son is Erick Yeager, one of your wingmen in AC3 (the Japanese version at least, which is the canon one), which takes place in 2040, so, this game has ties to AC1, AC2, AC3, AC4 and AC5, talk about wrapping up the lore in one great game. BTW, if you have the dlc maps, in 2 of them, you battle the Mimic Squadron, which are part of the General Resource Guardian Mercenaries, another connection to AC3.
@@MihzvolWuriar yeah I know that, im sure the last game of the franchise will take place after 3 in a *real* war between UPEO and Gründer. Since NEMO is the final version of Z.O.E. it would be a nice touch to have him as the final boss
@@di4mgaming115 It's always nice to find another AC lore addict, this game lore is better than most IPs out there, such as Star Wars... Anyway, I think the final battle should be something else, like, Nemo x Z.O.E, but Z.O.E new EWS is interfering with Nemo's ability to fly, and the only way to make him win, is to Sublimate a real consciousness into him (or to battle with him, but I prefer the first idea), so they had to use GRs/Ouroboros tech to win the war, that would tie everything out so great. After that, Sublimation and military A.Is would be banned from the world.
BTW, another theory of mine, the XFA-36A Game is a mashup of the front of the XFA-33 Fenrir, with the back of the XFA-24A Apalis, the naming, the looks, it all fits.
I don't think Z.O.E. were planned that early on, it was probably conceived as just a rival squadron. 5 and 0 the ones that start dropping hints about the AI. Then Assault Horizon Legacy made it more clear.
They really should have Phoenix cameo in some way in a future title. I see people go nuts over Cipher, Mobius, Blaze, and Trigger, but Phoenix was the OG.
Phoenix was the OG ace, yet surprisingly the most powerful of them all. My dude felled the original Megalith without an army to assist him, cleared the First Continental War by himself in half the time it took Mobius 1 to clear the second, and appeared as a superboss multiple times; Hell, in Joint's Assault's "Ace of Aces" SP mission, he's the final boss, outranking Cipher, Blaze and Mobius 1.
@@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 while it would be cool if he flew again, if he were to cameo somehow it would probably be in a way similar to Nagase in 7, where he would be a detail in a single mission and not huge to the plot
One clarification: The ZOE F-18 encountered over the Skully Islands was identified as a Rebel aircraft, though Cocoon Squadron had no knowledge about it. It's likely that Belka supplied the Rebel leaders with the ZOE aircraft (especially since ZOE General and Commander use the same jamming technique seen in Blind Spot and 8492). Cocoon 1: "Who's the red avenger? He with the Allied Forces?" Cocoon Squadron: "Negative. He has the same identification code as us." Cocoon 1: "Sheesh, I don't need any interruptions."
@@brotherhoodpilot7604 No, Huxian had it right when she said the Mimics were "neither Osean nor Erusean". Mimic Squadron was a General Resource mercenary squadron hired by Clemens to assassinate Trigger to prove that Osea didn't need ace pilots to win the war. Mimic was not actually aligned with either side, they were just hired hitmen. The difference with ZOE is that ZOE *was* aligned with the rebel forces--most of the rebels just didn't know about it.
Solutus, ow. You didn't volume mix the ADF-11F screeches. My ears. :( Just a suggestion... if you use any of my extracted lines, please please PLEASE PLEASE mix them at a minimal negative 6 dB.
What scares me is that there’s technically two ZOE units out there still. Though maybe those two could have been converted into other drones for Belkas purpose. Hell, the last two could have actually been converted into Hugin and Munin once they have obtained significant data since I don’t think the Belkans would have enough money spared to make two brand new AI
Hugin and Munin ARE Z.O.E planes. Schroeder, with Gründer and EASA support trained the Z.O.E AI with mihaly flight Data and then the AI got copied some times over the Lighthouse war. The ADFX-10 from mission 10 and then Hugin and Munin, which tried to copy Trigger's flight data. Z.O.E, as we currently have in 2019 following the canon was made using data from 5 different pilots: Trigger, Mihaly, Scarface 1, and guess who!? Cipher and Pixy. The flight data from the Avalon Dam duel was scrapped from the ADFX-02 that Pixy was piloting and then used as a basis for the AI. This AI is still going to be quite important to the series as the future goes on until it becomes NEMO or at least the basis of it like pixy's data was in the past but that's it...all we need to do now is wait for the lore that's coming
@@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 I wonder If the plot of Ace Combat 8 is the Z.O.E units manage to Terminate Scarface 1,Möbius One,Cipher,Trigger and the only Ace that is left to stop Z.O.E is Gryphus One.
@@weregarurumon3202 i don't think mobius one is even involved with Z.O.E and also Gryphus 1 although a very skilled pilot isn't going to be the protagonist of AC8. The plot of AC8 is going to be about A.I, not drones with A.I like in AC7 but the A.I itself. Z.O.E is an AI, Alex, Nemo and Copro (Mihaly's SU-30 A.I) are too. And there's another one from ACX but i forgot the name. It's the system voice that says : "No special weapons fire remaining" "Stalling, increase power" "Special weapons fire running low" A similar A.I to the one in ACX or Copro is also present in AC3 assisting Nemo. There's also a similar thing in AC1 but i don't think it's an A.I, it's more similar to the cockpit voices from Assault Horizon
Thanks for that. I wasn't even born when Phoenix was around. Got my wings in 2007 with Wardog Squadron and since I took down Hughin and Munin this acronym, ZOE, kept popping up in my radar and I've been tracking it since last week.
I wonder.... This is my hypothesis; the Belkans wanted Phoenix to shoot down the ZoE AI's. They could create an AI, but would it be enough to be the ultimate pilot like that Belka needed to rebuild their glorious air force? So they played the Coup. Sent their state of the art drones to them to gather data on the Usean pilots. But it was Phoenix that intrigued the Belkans. So they sent more ZoE drones to see if Phoenix could defeat them. With each drone destroyed, the wealth of data on Phoenix's flight style came in. This was the kind of pilot that matched what they had from the Belkan war. So they sent the Falken, and manipulated the Coup into launching their nuke to complete the Belkan's revenge. But something happened they didn't prepare for. Their drone was defeated again, and the coup was defeated. This astounded the Engineers at Grunder. Perhaps their drone technology was not ready. So they did what Belkans always do; Patience and technological development while playing the Oseans against the Yuktobanians. The Grey Men needed multiple plans to burn the world in case one failed. Grunder began manipulating many nations. The Erusians, The Oseans, The Yuktobanians, Even the Estovakians. Anyone wonder how a nation so ravaged like Estovakia managed to build Agaion? Then enter Schroeder and Mihaly Shilage. They tried again.
And even then, the new ZoE type AI had failed. But then you have something like Nemo coming around in the future. So did the Belkans truly fail in the Lighthouse War or was it part of the plan once again?
@@IvanRodriguez-kl2hz Nemo is the culmination of all that data, probably enough for it to become its own style of Ace. The kind that could win battles and continue to learn until it could defeat human aces easily. But a rogue element became involved, someone who wanted Nemo to fulfil his own ends. Unfortunately, as this scientist's sims had proven, it was impossible for Nemo NOT to achieve those goals.
@@IvanRodriguez-kl2hz I've always liked the idea that the ZoE type AI's had tons of time money and effort put in by this big team... and one vengeful man working on his own managed to make something more dangerous in Nemo.
I think this is one of the reasons of why Scareface 1 is one of the most skilled pilots protagonist of all series, he not only faced the best pilots that USEA had on it's time during the coup d’etat, he also shot down Z.O.E who basically was learning how to kill him in every battle. Kind of like a mix betwen Trigger and Cipher if you think about it. I really wish that PA could do a propper remake of AC 2, Z.O.E and Phoenix deserves a propper entry in the consoles. Imagine facing the ADF-01 Z.O.E that has the same attack pattern of Hugin and Munin plus the ECM abilities from both Scream and Rage, not to mention all the elite Usean squadrons. And for the love of god PA, Phoenix uses the Su-35, we allready have a bunch of protagonists using the damn F-22 >->
I wonder how Phoenix fares against Nemo, though? That guy one-upped all known iterations of ZOE in terms of piloting proficiency (and quite possibly in sentience).
Very interesting story and for zone of endless you can actually put that into ADF-11F with combined Human data from Mihaly example of this is Operation hush Ace Combat 7. For ZOE Commander it's false target boxes got license for use by Mimic Squadron over Anchorhead Bay
YF-23 being the first shotdown, although it's a really advanced fighter Me whos favorite plane is the YF-23: No you weren't supposed to do that *soft crying
@@nethascotx24 It’s a better interceptor for being stealthier, faster and capable of carrying larger missiles, but not the plane the US Air Force needed. I have the YF-23 as my favorite plane too, it kinda looks like an ADF from many angles
Imagine an Ace Combat 8 final boss aircraft that flies backwards, cuts PSMs midway through and starts another one immediately, EML snipes you at ranges you are not supposed to fire an EML from, etc.
@@conwaysquest6961 and even then, canonically, a madman and an oxygen deprived WSO managed to beat him in a Cold War era, incredibly fuel inefficient carrier capable F/D-14
That unintelligible scrambling from the falken is giving me scary flashbacks of The ADF-11F Raven in AC7 that sound really just traumatises me because of how close it is to Endermen screaming in Minecraft...
Nah I reckon they should carry from the events of AC7 because let's say a malignant piece of code from the AI onboard ADF-11F was able to back up and preserve it self so that it only finds it self only seeking to never stop until it has hunted down Trigger. But besides that the AI is able to manipulate and control aircraft from one plane. Now I call that Ace Combat 8: Boundless
Yes, because most of us are sick and tired of seeing Raptors as the mascot planes. He's the only Strangereal protagonist whose signature plane is a Sukhoi.
@@varnix1006 Nemo flies multiple aircrafts in his simulation, they all starts with the Typhoon II and ends in a different aircraft, XFA-36, SU-43, R-103 and XR-900. All routes are canon, so he flies every aircraft.
it would be cool if ZOE appears in AC8 and actually learns from the player and how they move so they can fly like you or combat you in later missions though that would mean you have to make a real AI to do that it could also be really overpowered though unless it has some limits like having to fly perfectly horizontally for like 2 or 3 seconds nonetheless it would be cool
This is definitely why Ace Combat 2 will always be one of my favorite games in the series, because it's the first game where you actually get to fight Belkan proxies (the Usean rebels being one of those proxies). The Z.O.E. fights are a true highlight of the game.
And the culmination of Z.O.E was NEMO. An AI who could fly and think just as well as any of the legendary Aces. Ace 8 should be a remake of 3 and have you play as NEMO
I wonder if Zone of Endless were to be able to provide speech instead of garbled static. Just having the A.I speak would be even more terrifying. Imagine the A.I taunting you with words as it faced you off in the skies. >
Perhaps they are, the reason they are doing garbled static, is because of Mihaly's grunts and groans everytime he flew with the copro in his plane, apart from getting the data from flying, it tried to make a virtual copy of Mihaly even with his grunts and groans
I actually prefer the garbled static. It’s a lot more inhuman. You hear something speak? It sounds like an opponent that may be reasoned with. Garbled static? Nope. It’s either you or it.
It just came to me, these first two units that managed to survive were by far less experienced and didn’t have the combat and flight data that the other three did. That’s why they had to learn from Mister X in AC7, they needed more experience from observing a skilled pilot to be as effective as their lost brethren. Mixed with their advanced aircraft 20 years newer, and these two that were once the weakest became the strongest. Project Aces has an AMAZING writing team!
Ace Combat 3D Cross Rumble features a bonus SP mission with two different fights in the final battle. At first, Phoenix wins the Dogfight with a ZOE Falken that uses all the features specified in the video, then after the destruction of Fortress Intolerance, instead of getting out from the ICBM hole, he has to turn back and exit from the entrance. At that point, four other ZOE Falkens all equipped with TLS spawns, and I cannot shot them down because they are fucking snipers that one-shot the player with TLS even during crazy maneuvers.
Unless you're using the Hellcat or ZERO, this is one of the most difficult boss fights in the franchise, beaten only by Scarface 1 himself in Ace difficulty Operation X.
Apparently during the Circum-Pacific War, the Grey Men were planning on attacking both Osea and the Yukes with ZOE variants of the second-gen Falken, had Osea not gotten their hands on the blueprints first
Whenever I see ZOE I think Zone of the Enders. And with how the fictional aircrafts in AC look and how everything is pointing at the stars with the latest installment I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing something like orbital frames in the future. Different company, I know, but still.
If it gets to that point, they might have to replace most of the planes we all know with completely new and original stuff. I'm not sure everyone would enjoy that.
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I wonder how Osea punished Grunder Industries when they found out, just like how they found out they were responsible for the War between Osea and Yuktobania?
I take it all this is taken from the AC2 remake? While I can understand Assault Horizon Legacy being the canon version of the story, the original will always be the ture version of it to me, due to nostalgia alone.
The thing is though. Phoenix fought Z.O.E five times. He beat it EVERY TIME. This ace was so unpredictable and powerful that he straight showed a UAV that machines cannot beat a man
Here is a tidbit: in Ace Combat X, Z.O.E. and Scarface 1 appear as enemy aces in the sp mission "Operation X" when the four tgt ADF-01's appear toward the end of the mission. I'll be honest, Zoe and Scarface are tough, but if you're jet is damaged heavy you can outrun them with the X-02 Wyvern with the SCRAMjet engine, advanced anti-balancetab wing, Composite armor, High speed ammo (preferred by choice due to the slow gun compared to the f-22) And last (but not least) Salamander, multi lock-on, (preferred by choice, xfa-27 is gold when the missile limiter is removed with the salamander cpu| also preferred by choice)
Lamperouge Zone yes that is true but it wasn’t used to make Z.O.E. The flight data was used to see the weaknesses of the Morgan (their very first ADF fighter). That data would be used to help make the ADF-01 FALKEN.
Nice one Solutus! A more detailed explanation of how Ace Combat 2's storyline fits into the Strangereal Universe even though the countries and continents were never mentioned in the game. I have Ace Combat 2 on the PS1. Any parameters I should comply with to unlock the XFA-27?
@@meteorsr2339 i don't consider the original AC2 non Canon. And i don't consider the remake 100% canon either. Some stuff i don't like in the remake, like the Ace squadrons and keynote talking instead of Phoenix, cuz in the original AC2 Phoenix used to talk.
I recall that in AC2, Z.O.E. Colonel flew a YF-22 instead of a YF-23. Additionally, in some beta or demo version of Cross Rumble, an F-35 was painted in its signature crimson color scheme. Could they fit into its development lore? And if so, how?
So... Nemo can be considered as a success? It's the legacy of ZOE after all... But the whole story of AC3 is a simulation, so AC8 is gonna be the real version of 2040 events? Or is it gonna be the prelude to the fall of nations and the rise of the corporations?
Nemo's role was to kill the electrosphere version of Abyssal Dision, since he was sublimated and his body was already dead. The only remaining place he could exist was the electrosphere and that's where you go to kill him in AC3. When Nemo finished his mission Simon released him into the real world so he could use what he learned at the electrosphere and use it to create his own future. Regarding the year, if I'm not wrong the simulations happen in 2040 or 2045 but the real world was in the late 2020's and early 2030's. Also we can only theorize that AC8 is the start of a corporate war as we had GR influence in AC7's DLC missions
@@Rizkyace118 Mimic squadron's affiliation is GRGM (General Resources Guardian Mercenaries) and they're based on Port Edwards, a GR base in AC3 and also the Alicorn's Barrier drones, which the lore writer, Sunao Katabuchi confirmed it's a GR design. Also why do you think GR made these drones for the submarine anyways? They wanted the submarine for themselves and Clemens was working for GR to make it happen and also try to kill trigger. GR has officially debuted in it's full strength as a PMC in the DLC and it means things are gonna get crazy in the near future (also GR was involved in AC6 as well since they supplied the stovies but that's a minor detail)
the screeches kinda got me a lil scared as of when it's Commander first appeared and golly.. felt like something was a lil bit terrifying than i expect a AI from Grunder would make sudden contact.
Scarface 1 Phoenix and that AI on the Ace Combat 3 must be the only Hero Protagonist that use the Russian Jet Sukoi when most of the Sukoi jet is boss fight in every Ace Combat game.
I have a theory that the Unmanned X-02s Mobius fights in the Free Erusea uprising (Ace Combat 5, Operation Katina) were using ZOE as Belka/Grunder had developed tech for Erusea.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 Never underestimate the schemes of Grunder/Belka. It's well known that they have stooges in every government throughout strangereal. Again it's just my head canon, but it's not beyond reason that Belka could have been fueling Free Erusea and help co-develop the X-02 along with using the unmanned variants as a testing platform for Z.O.E.
Can you make some spanish subtitles? My english is limited for the moment, btw cool channel! I've always wonder why anyone don't talk about the whole Strangereal cannon of Ace Combat! Keep the good work
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Until one of its ai went rogue and join osea. Hense the adf 11 f raven.
Just what I need, Thank You Solutus.
Yes, a New video! i love these lore videos and i hope you make more!
Nice!
@Louis Dominic Romero 2005 I don't think he does Alternate history
(1998)ZOE: *silence*
(2020)ZOE Co Pilot with Mihaly: "Over G, Over G..."
(2020)ZOE Raven: *robot screech*
Correction:2019
ZOE actually makes some faint computer bleeps on its two introductory sequences in Cross Rumble.
AAAAAAA
MobiusLeader007
EDI Thinking,
Or it’s just the Coolant fan ;D
Now imagine how's Nemo artificial intelligence sounds like
I feel like when Aces are brought up, nobody talks about Scarface.
Lore wise he's fuckin crazy man.
Scarface 1 is just fucking insane, tied with Cipher as the most powerful Ace:
It took Razgriz Squadron assistance to fell Scinfaxi and Hrimfaxi. Phoenix felled what's theorized to be the original of their kind in Fensalir and Folkvangr... *by himself,* the latter of which was armed with a guided nuke which Phoenix chased down and destroyed.
It took Mobius 1 an entire air force and ground assault troops to assist him to take down Megalith. Meanwhile, Phoenix took down Fortress Intolerance, the original of Megalith's kind, by himself (or with one wingman at max) right after going through what's basically the superior successor of the Morgan, one-upping even *Cipher.*
Mobius 1 struggled against Yellow Squadron throughout most of the Second Continental War. Phoenix took down what's flat-out described as Erusea's strongest squadron in Albireo, once again, either by himself or with a wingman.
Plus, you know how much of a bastard it was to deal with Mobius 1 in The Gauntlet? Try fighting Scarface 1 in Operation X on Ace Difficulty! He's the superboss of that game along with Z.O.E. for a reason!
The best part? There are other feats we don't know, as his aircraft's lore about him in Infinity imply that the events of Air Combat and Legacy are, I quote, "yet another page to his book of legendary feats."
It still took him being in a superplane to shoot down an A.I. in a superplane. Cipher imo is better. No need for a superplane, just his F-15C and being too pissed off to die.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 never bad mouth an ace, every ace is called legendary for a reason, not opinion or bias, combat logs are used for a reason, if all the aces had to fight each other, everyone would run out of fuel or missiles, they are that equal to each other. I feel like most of the community doesn’t pay attention at all during the story, m1 was respected for generations, yet the fandom under play his missions, and I feel like he never needed a squad but to prove a point he works well as a team leader as well.
@@republicofustio4381 well he is and always will be the demon of the round table
@@younghentaii1772 He didn't. He was so powerful that ISAF classified him canonically as a one man army.
Hard to imagine Project Aces went all the way back to Ace Combat 2 for their drone plot line in 7
Well... it's not hard at all since ZOE was theorized to be the predecessor of NEMO
Its more like Project Aces went back to AC2's remake: Cross Rumble. That game also introduced the concept of Usea states being against Osean presence on their continent.
Also explains what happened to the two ZOEs Scarface didn’t shoot down.
@@MobiusLeader007 I have the remake, honestly, that game is wasted. They gave stupid lines to the characters and didn't talk at all about the relationships between Osea and Usea. It's kinda like if the trailer talks more about it than the game itself, and I'm very confused about Usea's political situation. It was kinda like if the sounther-Usea states were ok about Osea's influence, and all the northern nations were not (to be fair, it would make sense like this since in AC7 Fort Grays has Osean planes, and the ISEV has been built in the southern part of the country)
@@LoScorpioneRosso1 I agree. The political tensions and the fear of Osean influence in Usea are only mentioned in one cinematic and never again. Its possible to play the game and never even see that cinematic as it only plays on the start menu.
I was surprised Project Aces reused the idea for AC7, as they didn't explore it at all in Cross Rumble.
Strangereal History - Z.O.E: The Twin Ravens confirmed soon? 👀
I wished he continued on with the adfx-10 and the two adf-11's. Regardless im happy with the content.
@@nightravin9251 I would love to see that. Those drones were absolutely crazy epic.
Yup. This is what would lead to the creation of the Z.O.E. ravens of Odin.
The fact AC7's enemies and a lot of Strangreal's lore were already being planned in the second game is impressive, wonder how much they had planned for Ace Combat at the time
You want more mindblowing stuff?
Yeager in AC7 keeps yapping about his son, guess what, his son is Erick Yeager, one of your wingmen in AC3 (the Japanese version at least, which is the canon one), which takes place in 2040, so, this game has ties to AC1, AC2, AC3, AC4 and AC5, talk about wrapping up the lore in one great game.
BTW, if you have the dlc maps, in 2 of them, you battle the Mimic Squadron, which are part of the General Resource Guardian Mercenaries, another connection to AC3.
@@MihzvolWuriar yeah I know that, im sure the last game of the franchise will take place after 3 in a *real* war between UPEO and Gründer. Since NEMO is the final version of Z.O.E. it would be a nice touch to have him as the final boss
@@di4mgaming115 It's always nice to find another AC lore addict, this game lore is better than most IPs out there, such as Star Wars...
Anyway, I think the final battle should be something else, like, Nemo x Z.O.E, but Z.O.E new EWS is interfering with Nemo's ability to fly, and the only way to make him win, is to Sublimate a real consciousness into him (or to battle with him, but I prefer the first idea), so they had to use GRs/Ouroboros tech to win the war, that would tie everything out so great.
After that, Sublimation and military A.Is would be banned from the world.
BTW, another theory of mine, the XFA-36A Game is a mashup of the front of the XFA-33 Fenrir, with the back of the XFA-24A Apalis, the naming, the looks, it all fits.
I don't think Z.O.E. were planned that early on, it was probably conceived as just a rival squadron. 5 and 0 the ones that start dropping hints about the AI. Then Assault Horizon Legacy made it more clear.
They really should have Phoenix cameo in some way in a future title. I see people go nuts over Cipher, Mobius, Blaze, and Trigger, but Phoenix was the OG.
I don't think he'll be coming back plotwise but a cameo in some SP mission would be cool
Phoenix was the OG ace, yet surprisingly the most powerful of them all. My dude felled the original Megalith without an army to assist him, cleared the First Continental War by himself in half the time it took Mobius 1 to clear the second, and appeared as a superboss multiple times; Hell, in Joint's Assault's "Ace of Aces" SP mission, he's the final boss, outranking Cipher, Blaze and Mobius 1.
@@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 while it would be cool if he flew again, if he were to cameo somehow it would probably be in a way similar to Nagase in 7, where he would be a detail in a single mission and not huge to the plot
A briefing announcer for a new mercenary squad would fit.
Phoenix: welcome back Phoenix Squadron...
@@SolutusEversol Thanks. Now I'm sad because I know deep down PA has essentially forgotten the poor guy.
ZOE: exists
The main character of an ace combat game: _so, you have chosen death_
Like Connor from Detroit says: You can't kill me, I'm not alive.
@@wallyhuncho2998 but you're not a god
@@dandelion40k87 No, I'm not a god. There's God and then there's me, and I'm closer to my enemies than God.
Nemo: is a protagonist of an Ace Combat game.
Also Nemo: is a pinnacle of ZOE project.
You mean us
One clarification: The ZOE F-18 encountered over the Skully Islands was identified as a Rebel aircraft, though Cocoon Squadron had no knowledge about it. It's likely that Belka supplied the Rebel leaders with the ZOE aircraft (especially since ZOE General and Commander use the same jamming technique seen in Blind Spot and 8492).
Cocoon 1: "Who's the red avenger? He with the Allied Forces?"
Cocoon Squadron: "Negative. He has the same identification code as us."
Cocoon 1: "Sheesh, I don't need any interruptions."
But you [cocoon1] just asked who's that guy flying over there! Ding!
Also Mimic squadron in SP mission 1 of Ace Combat 7
@@brotherhoodpilot7604 No, Huxian had it right when she said the Mimics were "neither Osean nor Erusean". Mimic Squadron was a General Resource mercenary squadron hired by Clemens to assassinate Trigger to prove that Osea didn't need ace pilots to win the war. Mimic was not actually aligned with either side, they were just hired hitmen. The difference with ZOE is that ZOE *was* aligned with the rebel forces--most of the rebels just didn't know about it.
@@SlyAceZeta I guess you're right
@@SlyAceZeta wait Mimic is part of GR where did you get that info, as far as I know the Megacorps are still not a thing
Solutus, ow. You didn't volume mix the ADF-11F screeches. My ears. :(
Just a suggestion... if you use any of my extracted lines, please please PLEASE PLEASE mix them at a minimal negative 6 dB.
Noisy Z.O.E can’t hurt you, it doesn’t exist
Noisy Z.O.E: *beep boop*
Noisy Z.O.E.: dial up sounds
@@SolutusEversol why am I fighting someone's discarded modem?
Hey, it's either the AOL dial up sound or bass-boosted ear rape. Pick your poison.
The definition of EEEEEEEEEEE
Noisy Z.O.E: *REEEEEEEEEE*
What scares me is that there’s technically two ZOE units out there still. Though maybe those two could have been converted into other drones for Belkas purpose.
Hell, the last two could have actually been converted into Hugin and Munin once they have obtained significant data since I don’t think the Belkans would have enough money spared to make two brand new AI
Hugin and Munin ARE Z.O.E planes. Schroeder, with Gründer and EASA support trained the Z.O.E AI with mihaly flight Data and then the AI got copied some times over the Lighthouse war. The ADFX-10 from mission 10 and then Hugin and Munin, which tried to copy Trigger's flight data. Z.O.E, as we currently have in 2019 following the canon was made using data from 5 different pilots: Trigger, Mihaly, Scarface 1, and guess who!? Cipher and Pixy. The flight data from the Avalon Dam duel was scrapped from the ADFX-02 that Pixy was piloting and then used as a basis for the AI. This AI is still going to be quite important to the series as the future goes on until it becomes NEMO or at least the basis of it like pixy's data was in the past but that's it...all we need to do now is wait for the lore that's coming
@@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 and AC7 isn't the newest in the strange real time line, the furthest game in the strangereal time line is AC3 eletrosphere
@@commanground4570 yeah, i know that. AC3 is actually a simulation in the 2040's. The real events of AC3 are in the 2030's and AC7 is in 2019
@@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 I wonder If the plot of Ace Combat 8 is the Z.O.E units manage to Terminate Scarface 1,Möbius One,Cipher,Trigger and the only Ace that is left to stop Z.O.E is Gryphus One.
@@weregarurumon3202 i don't think mobius one is even involved with Z.O.E and also Gryphus 1 although a very skilled pilot isn't going to be the protagonist of AC8. The plot of AC8 is going to be about A.I, not drones with A.I like in AC7 but the A.I itself. Z.O.E is an AI, Alex, Nemo and Copro (Mihaly's SU-30 A.I) are too. And there's another one from ACX but i forgot the name. It's the system voice that says : "No special weapons fire remaining" "Stalling, increase power" "Special weapons fire running low" A similar A.I to the one in ACX or Copro is also present in AC3 assisting Nemo. There's also a similar thing in AC1 but i don't think it's an A.I, it's more similar to the cockpit voices from Assault Horizon
Nagase has a few words to say... Are those drones remote controlled?
[sigh]
But can they dogfight without pilots?
@@SlyAceZeta *ding*
Goddamnit Nagase
Thanks for that. I wasn't even born when Phoenix was around. Got my wings in 2007 with Wardog Squadron and since I took down Hughin and Munin this acronym, ZOE, kept popping up in my radar and I've been tracking it since last week.
Video suggestion:
Strangereal lore: The Alicorn (Erusea's WMD carrying sub)
Which was actually designed by the Yuktobanians as a successor to the Scinfaxi class submarines seen in AC5.
I wonder....
This is my hypothesis; the Belkans wanted Phoenix to shoot down the ZoE AI's. They could create an AI, but would it be enough to be the ultimate pilot like that Belka needed to rebuild their glorious air force? So they played the Coup. Sent their state of the art drones to them to gather data on the Usean pilots. But it was Phoenix that intrigued the Belkans. So they sent more ZoE drones to see if Phoenix could defeat them. With each drone destroyed, the wealth of data on Phoenix's flight style came in. This was the kind of pilot that matched what they had from the Belkan war. So they sent the Falken, and manipulated the Coup into launching their nuke to complete the Belkan's revenge. But something happened they didn't prepare for. Their drone was defeated again, and the coup was defeated.
This astounded the Engineers at Grunder. Perhaps their drone technology was not ready. So they did what Belkans always do; Patience and technological development while playing the Oseans against the Yuktobanians. The Grey Men needed multiple plans to burn the world in case one failed. Grunder began manipulating many nations. The Erusians, The Oseans, The Yuktobanians, Even the Estovakians. Anyone wonder how a nation so ravaged like Estovakia managed to build Agaion?
Then enter Schroeder and Mihaly Shilage. They tried again.
And even then, the new ZoE type AI had failed.
But then you have something like Nemo coming around in the future. So did the Belkans truly fail in the Lighthouse War or was it part of the plan once again?
@@IvanRodriguez-kl2hz Nemo is the culmination of all that data, probably enough for it to become its own style of Ace. The kind that could win battles and continue to learn until it could defeat human aces easily. But a rogue element became involved, someone who wanted Nemo to fulfil his own ends. Unfortunately, as this scientist's sims had proven, it was impossible for Nemo NOT to achieve those goals.
You forgot to mention Lorenz Reidel who was a belkan defector. Mentioned in the Assault Records of AC0 and AC6
@@seraslain962 Considering Nemo managed to win simulations against that generation's "Super Ace" speaks volumes of ZoE's progress
@@IvanRodriguez-kl2hz I've always liked the idea that the ZoE type AI's had tons of time money and effort put in by this big team... and one vengeful man working on his own managed to make something more dangerous in Nemo.
I think this is one of the reasons of why Scareface 1 is one of the most skilled pilots protagonist of all series, he not only faced the best pilots that USEA had on it's time during the coup d’etat, he also shot down Z.O.E who basically was learning how to kill him in every battle.
Kind of like a mix betwen Trigger and Cipher if you think about it.
I really wish that PA could do a propper remake of AC 2, Z.O.E and Phoenix deserves a propper entry in the consoles. Imagine facing the ADF-01 Z.O.E that has the same attack pattern of Hugin and Munin plus the ECM abilities from both Scream and Rage, not to mention all the elite Usean squadrons.
And for the love of god PA, Phoenix uses the Su-35, we allready have a bunch of protagonists using the damn F-22 >->
I wonder how Phoenix fares against Nemo, though? That guy one-upped all known iterations of ZOE in terms of piloting proficiency (and quite possibly in sentience).
@@gargarmikejaphett.3840 And the only places ZOE one-upped Phoenix was in loyalty & perseverance.
I'm preeeeetty sure Phoenix uses the XFA-27 by the end.
from an AI sent to rebels to test it out to Nemo who is the deadliest AI ever made
quite the evolution in like 50 years
HEY! THATS MY VOICE AT 7:58! NOT MY COUSIN
that sounds like my Christian group on zoom...wait
Hey, aren't you supposed to be scrap metal by now?
That's an old cousin
Very interesting story and for zone of endless you can actually put that into ADF-11F with combined Human data from Mihaly example of this is Operation hush Ace Combat 7. For ZOE Commander it's false target boxes got license for use by Mimic Squadron over Anchorhead Bay
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YF-23 being the first shotdown, although it's a really advanced fighter
Me whos favorite plane is the YF-23: No you weren't supposed to do that *soft crying
You're not alone. I much prefer the black widow over the raptor.
Black widow should’ve been the plane.... not raptor
@@nethascotx24 Nah, I like the YF-23 too, but the Raptor was the better plane
@@nethascotx24 It’s a better interceptor for being stealthier, faster and capable of carrying larger missiles, but not the plane the US Air Force needed. I have the YF-23 as my favorite plane too, it kinda looks like an ADF from many angles
Imagine an Ace Combat 8 final boss aircraft that flies backwards, cuts PSMs midway through and starts another one immediately, EML snipes you at ranges you are not supposed to fire an EML from, etc.
must be a hell of a boss plane then.
@@zoneofendless. Super Sylph/MAVE or VF-19/VF-27 could do the job.
So Crimson one and his goddamn MACROSS-ASS PW-MK1?
I got you
@@conwaysquest6961 and even then, canonically, a madman and an oxygen deprived WSO managed to beat him in a Cold War era, incredibly fuel inefficient carrier capable F/D-14
That unintelligible scrambling from the falken is giving me scary flashbacks of The ADF-11F Raven in AC7 that sound really just traumatises me because of how close it is to Endermen screaming in Minecraft...
If ace combats 7 and 3d weren’t an allegory as to why AI should never be developed for warfare, idk what it is
Ahh finally, history lessons are back on the menu.
Soon, next AC series: Ace Combat 8: Man vs Machine
A.k.a Terminator franchise in Ace Combat strangereal
Your thought?😀
shut up and take my money !
Nah I reckon they should carry from the events of AC7 because let's say a malignant piece of code from the AI onboard ADF-11F was able to back up and preserve it self so that it only finds it self only seeking to never stop until it has hunted down Trigger. But besides that the AI is able to manipulate and control aircraft from one plane. Now I call that Ace Combat 8: Boundless
After that: Ace Combat 9: People vs Furries
Ace combat+tf2
@@notaveragecr6041 Galm, Wardog(changed to Razgriz) and Trigger: Are you sure about that?
Thank you so much for another installment of Strangereal History.
I absolutely love the briefing editing. you present it like a literal briefing or very good powerpoint presentation
I always liked the Idea of Phoenix flying a Sukoi over a Raptor
Yes, because most of us are sick and tired of seeing Raptors as the mascot planes. He's the only Strangereal protagonist whose signature plane is a Sukhoi.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 isn't Nemo flying a coffin modified sukhoi?
@@varnix1006 Nemo flies multiple aircrafts in his simulation, they all starts with the Typhoon II and ends in a different aircraft, XFA-36, SU-43, R-103 and XR-900. All routes are canon, so he flies every aircraft.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 Not just Phoenix, there's Nemo, Blaze, Talisman and Cipher.
Honestly main characters flying american planes are getting quite boring at this point
it would be cool if ZOE appears in AC8 and actually learns from the player and how they move so they can fly like you or combat you in later missions though that would mean you have to make a real AI to do that
it could also be really overpowered though unless it has some limits like having to fly perfectly horizontally for like 2 or 3 seconds
nonetheless it would be cool
Or you beat it how you beat scream and rage in sp 2 with your wingman baiting it to shot them down and giving you time to shot it down
ZoE copying *me* wouldn’t necessarily be a tactical benefit.
“Downloading flight data...”
“Processing....”
“Deleting flight data...”
@@EZ8Zah, a fellow pilot with no definitive flying style or pattern, I see? Just fuckin send it and figure it out on the fly
Z.O.E is probably one of the coolest parts of Ace Combat.
*5th Unit Commander appear each scene in video*
*Aggressive sipping sounds*
I was waiting for this ep of strangereal history, thanks.
This is definitely why Ace Combat 2 will always be one of my favorite games in the series, because it's the first game where you actually get to fight Belkan proxies (the Usean rebels being one of those proxies). The Z.O.E. fights are a true highlight of the game.
Almost thought you were going to follow up backwards firing missiles with backwards firing machine guns.
(Sulejmani has joined the chat)
And the culmination of Z.O.E was NEMO. An AI who could fly and think just as well as any of the legendary Aces.
Ace 8 should be a remake of 3 and have you play as NEMO
I wonder if Zone of Endless were to be able to provide speech instead of garbled static. Just having the A.I speak would be even more terrifying. Imagine the A.I taunting you with words as it faced you off in the skies.
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Perhaps they are, the reason they are doing garbled static, is because of Mihaly's grunts and groans everytime he flew with the copro in his plane, apart from getting the data from flying, it tried to make a virtual copy of Mihaly even with his grunts and groans
Well...if ZOE evolves to something like Nemo it should be able to talk since Nemo in AC3 is self aware
I kinda want to see a Zone of Endless incarnation but it plays bass-boosted ear rape instead.
I actually prefer the garbled static. It’s a lot more inhuman. You hear something speak? It sounds like an opponent that may be reasoned with. Garbled static? Nope. It’s either you or it.
@@kaelibw34
Same, something about the the static and screeches are even more terrifying
Whats next on strangereal history:
- Arsenal Bird
- X-02 to X-02S
- Mihaly on 1991 to 2019
Nice Net zone cover!
It’s one of his older songs. Bringing them back in the spot light
Yeah, that speedmaster is a great OST
you forgot backward CIWS on ZOE Falken :D
Wait
WHAT
“Fire missiles and Guns to the REAR ! ?”
Be careful Phoenix
@@somehecucunt3194 yeah, it can shoot backwards (and fire missiles that way too iirc)
And then there's Ace Combat 3.
"No, pilot, you ARE the ZOE."
Could you make a history lesson of the Strigon Team?
I always waited for another Strangereal history lesson!
Can you do the Arsenal Bird soon?
0:35 Cipher says hello.
Your animation gets better and better.
It just came to me, these first two units that managed to survive were by far less experienced and didn’t have the combat and flight data that the other three did. That’s why they had to learn from Mister X in AC7, they needed more experience from observing a skilled pilot to be as effective as their lost brethren. Mixed with their advanced aircraft 20 years newer, and these two that were once the weakest became the strongest. Project Aces has an AMAZING writing team!
Ace Combat 3D Cross Rumble features a bonus SP mission with two different fights in the final battle. At first, Phoenix wins the Dogfight with a ZOE Falken that uses all the features specified in the video, then after the destruction of Fortress Intolerance, instead of getting out from the ICBM hole, he has to turn back and exit from the entrance. At that point, four other ZOE Falkens all equipped with TLS spawns, and I cannot shot them down because they are fucking snipers that one-shot the player with TLS even during crazy maneuvers.
Yep
Unless you're using the Hellcat or ZERO, this is one of the most difficult boss fights in the franchise, beaten only by Scarface 1 himself in Ace difficulty Operation X.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 The problem is not that the boss fight is too much challenging, the problem is the aimbot TLS
Fortress Intolerance was situated in North Point, prior to ISAF HQ being moved during the Usean Continental War.
I think I mentioned that but if not that will be the correction for a remaster.
Apparently during the Circum-Pacific War, the Grey Men were planning on attacking both Osea and the Yukes with ZOE variants of the second-gen Falken, had Osea not gotten their hands on the blueprints first
And here I was, expecting an unlikely connection between Ace Combat and Zone of the Enders.
This guy teaches better than any history teacher ever
SolisOrtus aaawwwwww ☺️
Unlike the teacher in my schools, I actually get interested and not bored.
Fortress Intolerance sounds like a Covenant ships name lol. Great video.
the action combat keyframes are so good
Whenever I see ZOE I think Zone of the Enders. And with how the fictional aircrafts in AC look and how everything is pointing at the stars with the latest installment I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing something like orbital frames in the future. Different company, I know, but still.
If it gets to that point, they might have to replace most of the planes we all know with completely new and original stuff. I'm not sure everyone would enjoy that.
Plot Twist, Ace Combat manages to lead into some sort of Gundam universe.
@@maximaldinotrap Nah, the UGSF timeline.
@@strider117aldo9 It's called a joke
@@maximaldinotrap Funnily seemed serious. Anyway, might visit it anytime.
Man, as always beautiful video! °^° your style as improved a lot and is still improving :D good work! ^^
Thank you very much! I will continue to improve and hone my style
Marvelous video as always!
You sir, have earned a new Subscriber. I've watched this entire playlist and I love all of these videos. I cannot wait to see more of your lore videos!
Strangereal history, hell yeah!
I wonder how Osea punished Grunder Industries when they found out, just like how they found out they were responsible for the War between Osea and Yuktobania?
They were not involved in the circum Pacific war only in the lighthouse war
@@achillelevivier1680 they were involved in the pacific war, because the president of Grunder was a secret member of the Grey Men
Nice work buddy.
Excellent video and artwork!
Rewatching this series and may I say, the art is absolutely beautiful
I once made an image joke that basically pointed out that ZOE looks exactly like a Regi Pokémon
Belka and Grunder : has advance AI system piloting airplanes
Phoenix : haha *no*
In AC7, we saw new drones operating with ZOE AI.
Some new F-18, SU-35, ADFX-10 and the ADF-11 F Raven.
I take it all this is taken from the AC2 remake? While I can understand Assault Horizon Legacy being the canon version of the story, the original will always be the ture version of it to me, due to nostalgia alone.
Grunder: we don’t want anyone to know that we made these aircraft
Also grunder: paints every single drone aircraft red
wow your presentation over a year is really amazing, from crude ms paint, then with animation, and now this with animated briefing HUD
The thing is though.
Phoenix fought Z.O.E five times.
He beat it EVERY TIME.
This ace was so unpredictable and powerful that he straight showed a UAV that machines cannot beat a man
Another strangereal history video.
May i reccomend the XB-0 from ace combat zero for your next video?
Imagine Z.O.E aircrafts exists in real life... it would be seriously terrifying.
Memories of fighting those jets on my dimly lit 3DS, Good times.
the other four ZOE felkans are in extra mission 04 in ace combat cross rumble 3D... but they get destroyed as well
Wouldn't it be wild if there was a crossover with Zone of the Enders?
thank you
Solutus Eversol for explaining the story of ace combat 2.
Such a good documentary
Here is a tidbit: in Ace Combat X, Z.O.E. and Scarface 1 appear as enemy aces in the sp mission "Operation X" when the four tgt ADF-01's appear toward the end of the mission.
I'll be honest, Zoe and Scarface are tough, but if you're jet is damaged heavy you can outrun them with the X-02 Wyvern with the SCRAMjet engine, advanced anti-balancetab wing,
Composite armor,
High speed ammo (preferred by choice due to the slow gun compared to the f-22)
And last (but not least) Salamander, multi lock-on, (preferred by choice, xfa-27 is gold when the missile limiter is removed with the salamander cpu| also preferred by choice)
I think I read somewhere that Pixy’s flight data was recovered after his encounter with Cipher I’ll look it up
Lamperouge Zone yes that is true but it wasn’t used to make Z.O.E. The flight data was used to see the weaknesses of the Morgan (their very first ADF fighter). That data would be used to help make the ADF-01 FALKEN.
Nice one Solutus! A more detailed explanation of how Ace Combat 2's storyline fits into the Strangereal Universe even though the countries and continents were never mentioned in the game. I have Ace Combat 2 on the PS1. Any parameters I should comply with to unlock the XFA-27?
Play hard difficulty with extra planes settings and then have fun...
AC2 was actually de-canonized. Most of the stuff in this video is based off the 3DS remake wich does mention the other countries.
@@meteorsr2339 i don't consider the original AC2 non Canon. And i don't consider the remake 100% canon either. Some stuff i don't like in the remake, like the Ace squadrons and keynote talking instead of Phoenix, cuz in the original AC2 Phoenix used to talk.
"It's red so nobody can track it to us."
Gründer's logo:
I recall that in AC2, Z.O.E. Colonel flew a YF-22 instead of a YF-23. Additionally, in some beta or demo version of Cross Rumble, an F-35 was painted in its signature crimson color scheme.
Could they fit into its development lore? And if so, how?
They really need to remaster AC 1-3
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Solutus Eversol: I think this calls for a little history lesson.
your icon....is it XFA-27?
does this ZOE thing , got its hand on ace combat 3 (UI4054-Aurora)
That my boy Phoenix!!!!
Part two please?
So... Nemo can be considered as a success? It's the legacy of ZOE after all...
But the whole story of AC3 is a simulation, so AC8 is gonna be the real version of 2040 events? Or is it gonna be the prelude to the fall of nations and the rise of the corporations?
Nemo's role was to kill the electrosphere version of Abyssal Dision, since he was sublimated and his body was already dead. The only remaining place he could exist was the electrosphere and that's where you go to kill him in AC3. When Nemo finished his mission Simon released him into the real world so he could use what he learned at the electrosphere and use it to create his own future. Regarding the year, if I'm not wrong the simulations happen in 2040 or 2045 but the real world was in the late 2020's and early 2030's. Also we can only theorize that AC8 is the start of a corporate war as we had GR influence in AC7's DLC missions
@@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 Has the DLC for AC7 been announced?
@@Rizkyace118 with DLC i mean the Alicorn DLCs. There's no info on any new stuff that's coming up
@@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 Wait? GR in Alicorn DLC? I must've not paying attention... Which part is it?
@@Rizkyace118 Mimic squadron's affiliation is GRGM (General Resources Guardian Mercenaries) and they're based on Port Edwards, a GR base in AC3 and also the Alicorn's Barrier drones, which the lore writer, Sunao Katabuchi confirmed it's a GR design. Also why do you think GR made these drones for the submarine anyways? They wanted the submarine for themselves and Clemens was working for GR to make it happen and also try to kill trigger. GR has officially debuted in it's full strength as a PMC in the DLC and it means things are gonna get crazy in the near future (also GR was involved in AC6 as well since they supplied the stovies but that's a minor detail)
the screeches kinda got me a lil scared as of when it's Commander first appeared and golly.. felt like something was a lil bit terrifying than i expect a AI from Grunder would make sudden contact.
Excellent video.
Can you do a video on the aigaion. There isn't too much behind it but it may be something cool
The Ravens of Odin sees all!
Scarface 1 Phoenix and that AI on the Ace Combat 3 must be the only Hero Protagonist that use the Russian Jet Sukoi when most of the Sukoi jet is boss fight in every Ace Combat game.
I have a theory that the Unmanned X-02s Mobius fights in the Free Erusea uprising (Ace Combat 5, Operation Katina) were using ZOE as Belka/Grunder had developed tech for Erusea.
The Z.O.E. project wasn't utilized by Erusea until 2019.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 Never underestimate the schemes of Grunder/Belka. It's well known that they have stooges in every government throughout strangereal. Again it's just my head canon, but it's not beyond reason that Belka could have been fueling Free Erusea and help co-develop the X-02 along with using the unmanned variants as a testing platform for Z.O.E.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 This is not the actual Erusea, just a splinter/rebel faction, and Grunder loves rebel factions
Might want to work on audio balancing the ADF unit SFX there chief.
Can you make some spanish subtitles? My english is limited for the moment, btw cool channel! I've always wonder why anyone don't talk about the whole Strangereal cannon of Ace Combat! Keep the good work
Jeff Colmenares yes I am working with my discord mods on getting the script translated into multiple languages :)
So when will you do a video on the ADF models from Ace Combat 7?