Tarkov Armor Update: What You Need to Know - Tarkov News & Updates
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- Get the latest scoop on the Escape From Tarkov armor update! In this video, we dive into the recent changes to Tarkov's armor system, including the armor buff and stat changes. Stay ahead of the competition with our in-depth analysis and breakdown of the updates. Whether you're a seasoned player or just starting out, this video will give you the facts you need to make informed decisions and dominate the game
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0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Adding Favorites
1:06 - Tarkov Basement Guy
2:29 - Loot Crates
3:36 - New Edition Bonuses
4:37 - Armor Changes
7:04 - Testing
7:41 - Soft Armor
8:40 - Visual Bugs
9:12 - Plates
9:57 - Visual Breakdown
12:36 - Impacts of Changes
14:36 - My Opinion on Realism in Tarkov
18:34 - Changes That Need to Be Made
19:10 - What to Expect From This Change
21:14 - Outro - เกม
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14:58 to 15:16, everything is said ! it's a perfect simple explanation for anybody saying the plate system was the best update.
Thanks for the quality, the way you try, show and explain the things is exactly what we need to improve this game. I really hope BSG will listen peoples like you ! keep going !!
7:53 its nice to see someone else with billions of hours also double click a rig to inspect only to open the bloody thing lmao that gave me a nice little chuckle because I do it all the time
4500 h here, i still do it too xD
yeah third wipe and i still do it. would be nice if we get an option in the settings menu similar to consumption of items with double clicks
5k+ hrs. doing it too.
@@ThatOneCWhitethird wipe lol
i saved your music playlist and now i play it at work in my new job in phone repairs.
They should have a vitals which is covered by plates which takes full damage and a torso area which takes only like 35% damage
15:07 I see 2 ways to make it work.
1. Add vital spots, where hitting non vital spot deals less %. So even if there is gap in thorax, but you got it 1/2 cm from where thorax start, you do not get full dmg. That would also finnally make sense vs Naked Scavs or Naked PMC, cause it's not good that we have to shoot them at least 2 times in throax to kill them with "normal" ammo.
2. Add grazing mechanic. So a bit similar to what i said above, if you got grazed by bullet, you should not get full dmg. Whats more some effect to grazing Ear/Head could be added aswell.
Exactly this should've been solution path to go for BSG, instead of taking three steps back and going back to more casual side work towards further deepening this mechanic. Currently that armor system was not working properly because armor's purpose was to protect vital organs, not entire body part. While in Tarkov no matter where you land your shots, from game perspective it's all fair game and counts the same way. Only difference is how high pen ammo can penetrate first body part hitbox and hit the next one.
@@pharethi1241 Wait is that a thing now? Can high pen ammo overpenetrate through limbs? Like if you shoot someone in the arm it can pass into their thorax?
@@pharethi1241 More simplistic does not equal more casual, neither armor system was "more casual" than one another. But if they wanted to go with the overcomplication route, then they should've also overcomplicated the health system from the get go. Because the way it has been right now just doesn't make any sense from both a realism and game ballance perspective.
On the thorax hurt box, people on reddit (I know) were suggesting an outer thorax and an inner thorax. Outer is less lethal while the inner is the two tap spot. Before the current armor changes I think that would’ve been the way to go but now it seems a level 6 plate makes you iron man so I think we’re good for now. But further changes I think would require a hurt box and health pool adjustment.
Dude, the visual breakdown? Highly appreciated ❤🎉
Glad it helped!
Love how you summarize everything! Thanks for saving me from endlessly googling and scrolling to find all this!
Thanks for the info!
Breakdown is legendary man, appreciate the crazy fast and in depth info on these new updates would be clueless without community dudes like yourself brothaaaa!
Glad to help
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With everyone having high pen ammo and the best armor it is hard to tell how this will turn out. Personally with the recoil change I don't mind extending the TTK. However, when wipe comes around we are going to get juggernauts again.
Would you find it acceptable for you to shoot someone 10 times with m62 and they don't die? Or 25 rounds of pbp and the person doesn't die. Running meta doesn't matter with this update.
@Justin-is4jy If you hit thorax you will still 3-5 shot level 6 with m62 I'm pretty sure. Can you still craft m61 because that's even better? That will 2-3 shot. Like he said smgs will suffer but you are trading armor pen for lower recoil (so head shots or leg meta). Like I said it is too early to make a conclusion.
@@Gunner8_ post recoil rework that was fine, now almost all calibers are easy to control so it makes smgs and pistols useless again. Not to mention the fact that good ammo is hard to come by without max traders so they're back to being pea shooters. I don't see how people hated armor being realistic when they're playing tarkov which is dubbed one of the most realistic shooters out there. God forbid someone without a meta round kill them through a rigs weak spots like they would irl. Vests/rigs aren't there to make you invincible for so many rounds, they're there to protect your vitals so when you do get hit you have a higher chance to live. It felt good being able to use m855 and other rounds, but now we're back to high pen metta that beginners or low levels wont have access to.
@@isaiahwilliams4789 You are correct. The only problem with the realistic armor system is that the hit points are gameafied. The reason armor is shaped like that is to protect your organs. Getting shot in an important organ is an off switch, getting shot in the side of the armpit from the front is not immediate. Realistic armor like they had would work really good if the heath system was complex like Gray Zone Warfare, but it is not in tarkov. I don't care about a game being realistic or not I just want it to be fun, but realism is a cool secondary if it is implemented properly. Yes I agree there will have to be balancing changes with ammo now that the armor is better again.
@@Gunner8_ well I hit 10 shots middle mass didn't kill the guy
You're the go to guy for Tarkov news, for me.
thank you as always airwing!
Always love your videos man
Glad you like them!
They should keep (new old system with smaller plate) just add Critical Thorax box inside current thorax size of plate. You keep realism and people do not die in random shots
I always appreciate the level of dedication and detail you put in your videos
Thanks for that!
Always great content!
Glad you think so!
Hey man I love your videos, they always keep me in the loop and you do a great job testing and relaying that information to us!
Glad you like them!
Thank you for your extremely high effort breakdown and news coverage. Your content is incredible and always gets me wanting to play again.
keep up the hustle airwingchamp
Another great video, keeping the community informed as always 👍 keep up the good work AWM
Thanks, will do!
Thank u for ur work and testing. Its very helpfull ❤
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the support!
It probably means you can mark it as different types of favorites like the master file set for the hideouts, quest for fuel conditioners. Slim diaries as barter etc
Even tho the armor update feels good but it still doesnt feel like this is the answer, we basically just went back to OG system but even a little more tanky then the OG... BSG shouldn't stop here IMO something still needs to be done.
Og system? Isnt the side plate mechanic different now?
They should have changed the body hitboxes instead of the armor because for some reason getting shot in the sholder is still the same as getting shot in the heart/lung area.
It's still better than the original. If you get shot in your back it doesn't touch your front plate hp, where before it was a shared hp pool so your armour would be shot for the rest of the raid.
I wish they added an inner thorax hitbox to come along with the armor update. Like yeah, it sucks to get shot in the shoulder with 7.62x54 but I wouldn't instantly die to it either.
@@tobyFOTS how is it better? this makes armor tank even more then it used to and cause very unpredictable high ttk that you cannot rely on. making high pen ammo even more meta again. soon everyone will cry about high pen ammo meta like they did befor armor rework.
The fact that the SPT realism mod already had vitals hitboxes since like two years ago
how does that work? when i watch people play it the ttk seems soo much better despite the ammo used
@@bigchunk7246 the realism mod lowers the damage taken to the torso by a certain percent, but increases it more if it hits certain hotboxes that roughly correspond with heart and spine
That's nice, anyways.
SPT is playing a completely different ball game when it comes to adding things. They have a bunch of things that the live game has to deal with that SPT does not.
Modders also don’t need to worry about making drastic changes to a live game that their livelihood depends on
Actually a good video from Airwing, nice
thanks for the good video. You speak the words in my mind.
really good take on your opinion on the armor
I love it keep up the good work!
Always helpful vids also recommend my son to your videos to learn the game
You are the most straightforward tarkov streamer and I love it
Very interesting to see how a more realistic system in a "realistic" game is limited by its less realistic RPG counterpart mechanic. It seems as though the only way to get to this answer was by finding out what didn't work. Dang, I can see the frustration players might have with a lack of consistency but at the same time this is clearly a "we tried and found the limits" situation. How you wrapped up the end really sold me on that - good video.
I'm not some kind of medical professional but wouldn't a simple adition of more hitboxes to those critical areas make it more realistic like we have the damage reduction if I remember correctly for when your limbs are blacked out you could simply make more hitboxes some skaling the damage by idk 100% so you get 1 or 2 shoted in the vital organ region while the edges like sholders etc are rediuced or stay the same and maby always cause bleads when you hit them
Good stuff
Thx!
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
You and gigabeef are the goats when it comes to this stuff. Well done
I like giga too, even if he is a weirdo brit who like beans and toast
@@Airwingmarine 😂
I initially wanted vital hitboxes as a more "complicated yet realistic" solution to this, but this system also works what it intends to do.
Thank you for all your testings! Time to stock up on some SAS drive barter plates :D
Finally someone who gets timers and switches. I think GZW does a good job with this, would be cool to see more depth to the player health system
My guess the favorite is what we've been asking for: when you loot stuff in the raid, you get a highlight for items that you are looking for. My guess is there will be a different color depending on which favorite it is. So you could say that you want something to use as gear, so it will have a blue outline like in the screenshot. Let's say a quest item might have a red outline so you know you want to get out with it alive. For hideouts you want something as an upgrade so you don't care and barter I'd say you mark it that you want it for a barter. Basically you pick whatever the hell you want and the only difference would be the outline colour.
I think it will be this but instead of an outline it will be a small icon like the FiR check mark
man does live tarkov feel archaic compared to modded SPT
(google BetterCheckmarks mod)
they should completelly remove lateral protection for those armors that don't have lateral plates, dosn't make sense for balancing purposes that a slick can protect the same areas and is more lighter than the thor exemple.
+1 For the algorithm, thanks airwing
I hope this help with the algorithm
sight over bore, thats why bullets hit diff spots from the spot your scope was on
This is exactly what I said they should have done day one of wipe. But if BSG ever did make a realistic health system and the realistic plates together it would be fucking awesome.
Good vid!
your the #1 mechanic tuber, im really glad they changed the plates, ive been 1 tapped by scavs 1 too many times in the thorax, it was driving me nuts, even while wearing teir 6 plates and zabrolos
Yeah, exactly the same. PVE drove me mad because of scavs one tapping
@@Scouter5050 back in the day it was head eyes every other raid then it was armpit or neck lol
@@47575344 Exactly thats what im saying
appreciate the work!
top notch per usual
I've been saying since 2018 tarkov needs vitals hit boxes like those old Buck Hunter games.
Did you do any testing with armor plates and neck hitbox? I read its also protected now
Yeah, a few accidental deaths trying to find the gaps. It is not protected any more than it was before
I heavily agree. I would love to see them implement a health syst like GrayZone into the game. I think it would be GREAT if they would start test servers with some various options of health systems, armor, and ammo to help refine the game.
nice video brother
Thanks
Totally agree with "realistic" part.
BIG FAN
To echo what's been said, unless they move to a damage model similar to Gray Zone I think this is a great improvement. I'm the most excited for more armors being viable.
Agree to your rant 100%.
Love ur vids♥️
Thanks!
i think this is great news for armour
i wonder, when u shoot the back and have a front plate hit, could it be the bullet hitting flesh first and then it travells to the front?
0:49 I think this is just giving items a icon (like the FIR icon) so you can favorite things before you go into raid. For example its day 1 of wipe and you go to the wiki to find the FIR needed items for all the quests, you just mark all the items with the quest icon so u know you need to get those for a quest sometime in the future. Same for hideout items, i have 6k hours but i always forget stuff like an awl or toiletpaper is needed so i can just mark it and it will show that mark in raid.
Casual player currently lvl 50, I have 30+ lvl 6 plates sitting in my stash, kinda do think it should only be a craft after a ragman quest and get 2 plates every 7-9 hrs, im never gonna run out of lvl 6 lmao
If you are level 50 you aren't casual....
@@Airwingmarine it’s months into wipe, playing 4-5hrs like 5 days out of the week, that’s pretty casual imo, and the event questlines gave ALOT of xp
Chad over here thinks he's a casual
@@Gl0Ck_Dookie Legit dude, not trying to insult you, but that's not casual... LOL
@@vali69 flattered to be called a chad lmao this is only my second wipe, secret to the game is having a steady duo partner, first wipe only hit lvl 18
The 30% insurance reduce, is it now only for eod & eod->unheard, or also for people that just bought unheard?
Like in general does eod alone has any different goodies than if I would just upgrade from a standard account to an unheard?
Totally agreed regarding everything about armor system. I quit the game before unheard scam simply because of how ridiculous game was with that armor system, now planning on coming back soon.
hello Airwingmarine and everyone.
I have a question about this armor rework:
What is the difference in terms of TTK if I shoot a T5 Koround in the Thorax with M855A1 between the old and new versions of armor?
thank you for helping me see it more clearly.
It's a good point that a realistic armor system doesn't work when the health system doesn't compliment it. I never thought about it that way.
good video
I said it many times already and i'll say it again:
Additional inner hitboxes for the thorax, basically vitals.
Makes much more sense to me than fumbling back and forth with armor-changes.
Man you rated the ana m2 c tier..im new to tarkov and ive been running that rig legit all wipe and have now been putting lvl 5 n 6 plates in it. Its saved my life from thousands of bullets, way more than any other one.
my mainly deaf in my right ear the sound is to low and flat so the little that i can hear i cant even register anything else makes it tuff to play arena and other extraction shooters have a nice bass to player movement when they arent walking and directional sound can be registered easier allowing me to feel less handicapped and enjoy the game
I personally think the new armor update is more suited for Arena gameplay. Haven’t played long enough to experience the “tankiness” so I dont know how I feel about it yet. Thanks Airwing for the breakdown. 👏🏼
Airmarine : Im gonna spend some hours learning about this new plate system and help people with it
BSG : *changes armor system similary to what it was before*
Airmarine : Here we go again
Great content as always. Appreciate the update/breakdown.
No problem 👍
wonder if this is going to help when you wear plate only protection and scavs will routinely shoot you and just go straight through your armor without hitting it
Its likely a tool you can use to highlight stuff you need for your hideout, quests, and just stuff you want in general.
Absolutely loved the realistic plates. It had issues but imo, the answer was to update the health system/add critical thorax box or something. They went through all that work to add the armor system and it worked really well on its end. It just ended up highlighting a separate issue. Instead of fixing the real issue of the health, they back peddled. Sad to see. Hopefully they go back once they have a health system solution
how does armor layering work? like an exfil face shield over a death shadow mask over condor glasses
Pretty sure whatever it hits first and then it goes through the pen probability, relating to durability and pen of the round, then it gets to the next layer and goes through the same thing meanwhile reducing actual damage on the way through
Doesnt greyzone basically have the Dayz hp system?
how long will unheard be available for
I'm still not cool with the addition of the Unheard shit. I know its petty but as someone super excited when I found the Like bag this wipe after 8k hours I was always hoping for some of the "missing" containers or under the impression we would eventually get quests for bigger pockets too.
So its like the one thing I would actually want (besides the hood for, of course, how powerful it would be in night raids!) are the things they said "nah" and instead we got better insurance times, a dog tag that someone else gets upon killing us and access to PvE which I will likely never touch. Not to mention all the cases and shit that we used to get upon start but they started slowly chipping them away.
But I get it. I'm probably in the minority here. Eveyrone else seems, for the most part, satisfied.
Go back to old new armor, but have an inner and outer thorax hit box. The inner thorax would be covered by armor, and the outer thorax wouldn’t be. When outer thorax is blacked, it should send %25 of the damage it receives to the inner thorax, or whatever percentage would feel best. That would be a lot more simple than going in and adding vital organs/hit boxes inside of the body that’ll further complicate Tarkov’s already questionable hitboxes.
Neat!
After many hours of gameplay on the new system, This is a huge W! It works signiicantly better IMO. I am no longer dying one shot to thorax. I love it and feels great overall!
The plate hitbox coverage is probably the same in-game as what they showed us for the new update. What I suspect they changed (which is causing the magic full-torso armor effect) is the hitbox priority. So I'm saying that now, when a projectile hits a player, the game is preffering armor hitboxes over body hitboxes, even when a projectile hits a body hitbox first.
Great video! I’d rather BSG ditch the plate system, I already spend too much time in my stash
Prefer the true to plate size method
I think armor needs to stay the way it is *or* add a 'vital organ' system like Rising Storm has as well as the ability to revive team mates that die from non-head chest shots assuming you have some sort of (currently non existent) revive kit
I feel this maybe a temp fix. Probably just hoping 1.0 has a different health system. But i understand that's asking a lot.
The Greyzone vital organ system would be great with the revised armor, before these backpedals.
edit: as you highlighted in the video
Hey Airwing I know PVE isnt your area of expertise but we still havent received Ref as a trader we basically just lost all the gp coin barters and the ability to sell them do you have any info?
Nothing yet, but I have to imagine BSG is working on something or they would of left the GP coins as is in PvE
Its simple. Add a hitbox for the lungs/heart inside the thorax. This new hotbox has its own health pool and when it hits zero, you die. The thorax now becomes like the stomach hitbox where zeroing it does not cause death but damage to a black thorax propagates damage to other parts.
Now the smaller plates can protect this inner hitbox with gaps in the plates that wont always result in a bullshit death.
Getting killed around the plates was happening too often and a change was needed, but this wasnt it.
Being able to use any gun and it being viable this wipe was super refreshing. I have more smg kills this wipe than assault rifle kills. Now we are gonna be back to everyone running the same 3 assault rifles and dmrs
Yep. it would be a way to solve the issues and keep the cool system. A lot of players returned to the game this wipe and kept playing for a long time, because they were not feeling obsolete with their PS ammo after a mounth into a wipe. I have a teammate who play not very much and still is around 2 level of traders. He doesnt even have BT or m856a1 unlocked. With that update its pretty much game over for him. Headshot only or fuck right off and play another game. I wounder what will he choose.
@@user-qw3ny5bj7d Sadge
Interesting idea, but we already have bad lag, desync, and other things. How would you implement this in a way that keeps calculation times down? You can add all these "simple" solutions, but what you're asking for is going to be more resource intensive. Since it's simple, how would you ensure optimization and performance remains the same with this addition you're proposing?
@@rutherfordthebrave2516 its the same as having a small armpits hitboxes
@@rutherfordthebrave2516 they added new hitboxes for front plate, back plate, left, right, throat, upper back, lower back, etc. If they can do that, they can add one more and it won't tank performance
thanks airwing for the testing 🫡
you are welcome!
time to return to my fav leg muncher strat teehee
Hopefully this is just a temporary thing until they rework the health system and add vitals and whatnot. I enjoyed being able to use a wide variety of weapons with lvl 3 ammo and have fun. I also hope they give us back some of the more high pen ammo that they changed when the update dropped since we're back to tanking shots. They teased a realistic armor system for a while and everyone loved it/wanted it, then we got the update and people died to rounds the vest/plate DIDNT cover and complained until they reverted back, crazy right? Whether y'all like it not the majority does play tarkov for its realism, so enough with the "its a game, its not supposed to be realistic" stuff please, I don't see how y'all could like armor protecting areas it shouldn't, armor isn't something you throw on expecting it to protect your ENTIRE upper/lower torso, its there to protect your vitals from a frontal or rear shot, some offer side plates/soft armor too. If a plate carrier doesn't protect you're upper middle chest, THEN GETTING SHOT THERE SHOULD BE VITAL! Now we have MAGIC INVISIBLE armor protecting said places, how cool righttt? If I shoot you side on, those bullets are going to slip into your chest and kill you, but not anymore because that much realism was too hard to swallow, so back to W keying with meta-armor and absorbing bullets. "Just click heads".. If I'm being forced to aim for the head in a realism shooter... that's bad. Adding a more in depth health system would've been 100x better than simply reverting back to an even worse state. Now give me the usual "Join the military" comments that'll just further prove my point. At the end of the day slow paced realism beats a warzone playstyle.
Basement guy makes a lot of wacky shorts on bsg yt
Sounds like Daddy is going back to leg meta, or Hoof Hunting as I like to call it. Like the good Lord intended!
when they touch by my experience it kills the sound....special when they touched the headset type sound range, its stupid.
Great info as always Airwingmarine!
While I thought the new armor system needed work, this isn't it. They should have just removed the giant arm pit hit box from the front and kept the sides more open, fixed bugs with the new system and tweaked it, fixed AI to actually aim not beam open spots or head. Maybe even give us more thorax hp or add in a real vital system. I don't know I'm not a dev.
Just did a raid this morning its basically the old system, Now its back to easily swinging Timmy's while they smack my giant plate with m855 and I murder them. At the very least the old way made me use cover and placement more and most ammo was an actual threat. Felt like it punished me for wild plays if I wasn't careful because if someone is firing center mass there was always a chance they would catch my upper chest or throat. Now its up to collar bone and the leveling Rat race begins again. Oh well, they have PVE now if they cant hack it online lmao
Bro I would fucking love a top to bottom overhaul of the health system with the Armor system last update