Watch Elon Musk's Deep Dive Into the New Tesla Semi-Truck
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- At Tesla's SEMI event, company CEO Elon Musk talks about the specs of the new semi-truck and how it was tested in the field.
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No oil changes. No diesel fuel (high cost). Longer lasting brakes. Free energy from the sun if warehouses choose to put solar panels on their roofs. Cheaper motor changes every x miles. Not much maintenance. What trucking company wouldn’t want these? For the world, we get quieter vehicles, less condensed pollution, and better safety. Downsides would be the cost of battery replacement, tire wear might be higher do to the extra weight, the high power grid usage if not charged on solar. Overall, this is a home run. I can’t wait to see some Class C RV’s made from this platform.
The grid isn't prepared
@@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 They're already planning for it.
@@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 It will be
Most other chassis OEMs are ahead of Tesla.
The #1 problem with the Semi? Parts commonality.
#2 would be lack of proper sleeper.
@@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 I'd say it is. EVs only account for a small, tiny amount of overall energy usage. They don't consume as much as a house or a facility or a building or skyscraper.
I’m a truck driver and can attest to the frustrations of going over different grades in a diesel truck. It’s downright annoying to lose so much momentum when going up even a small hill, especially when trying to pass another truck. I would love to drive a Tesla semi truck. I volunteer to be a test driver ✋
I'm not even a truck driver and I want to drive it too lol
Then why don’t you get a truck that suites your needs, are you a company driver, why drive under powered trucks?
Talk to your grandfather, your just lazy. It was fun back then. Now you can sleep and the truck does it for you. I hope your generation is not what we have to depend on in the next war they want. You want a truck the government can’t shut down when they want
It was announced in 2017, and was supposed to go into production in 2019. And another bunch of unrealistic stuff about the truck said Musk on stage.Meanwhile, Volvo and others have REAL working electric trucks on the roads already.
@@trucker-d4161 I doubt he's even a truck driver, just trying to pump the stock.
The regen braking is amazing on trucks. I have owned trucks in Africa the mountain regions are always a nightmare. But with regen braking omg that will save lives and money
and break the motors
@@MrPaxio how? they're just spinning in reverse, right?
@@Vamsee_K Yep. Electric motors last AGES. Longer then the battery which also lasts AGES.
That's it.
Lol, you'll always have to be very wary of large branches or some debris on the side of the road, it could mean there's a cliff and/or a broken vehicle is right ahead behind a blind.
@@toyotaprius79
Why "Wary"?
You know they still have "normal" brakes as well?
11:15 The Semi used a goodly chunk of power climbing the Grapevine but recouped 80% of the energy on the other side of the hill. Your conventional truck or even a hydrogen vehicle wouldn't have been able to do this (hydrogen fuel cell vehicles only have a tiny battery). Regen is the secret sauce that makes this truck golden.
One ingredient in da sauce mmhmm
Never. The math says that it won't.
@@johnbauby6612 he said 80% of the energy used uphill, regenerated back to the battery when going downhill from the Grapevine. You still lose energy, but the loss only totaled to roughly 20% of the energy used in that time.
Hydrogen vehicles will probably have a battery to regenerate to
@@ixyzyxi HFC vehicles only have a small battery, enough to buffer the output of the fuel cell output and provide a boost when needed. This is similar to hybrid petrol vehicles (specifically the Prius in mind)
Some of the negative comments on here are crazy. These vehicles will be very hard to get hold of, the demand will be gigantic. Initially owners will charge them at their home base and as the infrastructure builds out they will be able to expand the routes these vehicles can operate. When the first petrol / diesel cars appeared 100+ years ago there was very limited refuelling 10 years later that problem was resolved. This technology will rapidly move to other vehicles which always return to their base at night. Within 15 years new diesel lorries will be a thing of history and with that the pollution and noise these vehicles generate. I think Elon and Tesla deserve a big thumbs up.
Yup. Big improvement on performance, comfort, safety, cost of operation, maintenance, pollution... It's an unequivocally better vehicle. No reason to resist; rejoice!
Tesla (well...Elon) is presenting an overly-optimistic scenario where there won't be pain-points and real costs to expanding infrastructure. They'll mask that over with early adopters by accepting deep losses while offering "cheap" power at their powerstations. It won't last, as both Telsa cars and SpaceX are now demonstrating. Right now, no question, electricity is significantly cheaper than diesel, but if the price inches to 10, 20, 50 cents per kwh those savings evaporate and it becomes MORE costly to operate these rigs.
its a scam!!!!!
@@theoteddy9665 I don't think it's a scam, but the blanket dismissal of EVERY legitimate question or concern by Elon's fans gets really tiring.
There's an argument often made that while the vehicles are electric, the generation is from fossil fuels. While that's true now, even with renewable energy, it may not be forever. Electric vehicles are half of the equation, the other half would be something like commercial fusion or some other technology that brings renewable / limitless clean energy to scale and craters the price.
Elon sounds like that guy that never prepped for his presentation at school and is just winging it from memory and hoping for the best
It's got him far hasn't it!
I call it authenticity
Always
It's called not scripted and he knows what he's talking about. Look at his resume and the list of accomplishment that he did, the guy is one of the greatest genius of our time.
Yeah, he's that guy 🤣😂
As a former Trucker I want to see the range when it’s fully loaded and going through the hills of Colorado or West Virginia. That’s is the real test of any Semi Truck. Hills and Wind are your worst enemy.
Tesla semi cuts through wind like a Ceramic knife , only 1.7kwh/mile energy UPHILL .
Tesla semi is a BULLET , not a BRICK WALL unlike any ICE semi.
@@markplott4820 Empty or with a Full load?
Or years of going through the brutal summers in the south and brutal winters of the Midwest
I can't wait to hear the new Tesla robot Optimus saying 'Lets roll out' while driving this truck.
That will never be a real product.
Underrated comment 😂😂😂
@@Frank72364 really? we'll just wait and see. Bill Gates also said it'll never happen, but Tesla just proved it
Autobots, Roll Out
@@Frank72364 Let me guess. You said the same about the Tesla semi...
The driver of the diesel semi must have been shocked when the Tesla overtook him like he was standing still. 😂 😂
And diesel drivers will be laughing as they pass dead Tesla Semi trucks on the side of the road because of how much energy it takes to run that hard.
@@PistonAvatarGuy It has 500 miles of range at 81,000 lbs. And as opposed to trucks never running out of gas? If you don't charge before heading out on a long trip then the driver is an idiot.
@@nguyep4 You missed the entire point of my comment. EV trucks have very little energy capacity relative to ICE trucks and the greater the speed maintained up a hill, the greater the energy usage of the truck will be. If the route involves significant gains in altitude (Phoenix to Albuquerque, for example), the Tesla Semi absolutely will not travel for 500 miles at a greater pace than an ICE truck.
Diesel trucks can typically travel 1,000 to 2,000 miles without stopping for fuel. 500 miles is also only ~7.5 hours of driving, but truckers are allowed to drive up to 11 hours per day, so they will be limited in how far they can drive in a day with an EV truck.
@@PistonAvatarGuy 80% of Semi routes are below 500 miles. The Tesla Semi obviously is a daycab and not a sleeper.
@@jovanleon7 I was talking about the clip in the video.
The unloaded range is important as well - a lot of truck runs must come back with only a partial load. The Tesla will be great on the return journey with only a small load on the trailer.
It will be even better sitting in the driveway because that is the only place you will ever see it
As a truck driver what concerns our customers the most is the ability to fuel up in 5-10 minutes for another 400 miles if your truck can't do that then it's frankly not a viable alternative to the technology at hand.
They only alternative to that would be to swap out the whole battery. Could be automated, but logistically and in terms of safety not trivial.
Correct, and honestly the same issue I see with he EV cars and light trucks, I love to travel by road, and I do not want to wait 2+ hours every 4-5 hours of driving. For short range, they’re cool, but for any long range travel they’ve got a long way to go. To mandate these things at this early stage is ridiculous.
People dont seem to grasp the magnitute of pros and convenience this truck will bring to the US. The semi tesla trailer has and will have more benefits to americans than what any other tesla has brought to the table.
@bloxluls6227 imagine thinking building homes in your own country, outside people wil be so butthurt.. israel is getting its land back inch by inch. And that makes me VERY glad 😊
@bloxluls6227 ok troll, move on with your life. You got the attention you wanted, now move on.
Yea imagine a robot replaces your job. Do you grasp the magnitude of that?
@@gbp3616 im not talking about that
Compare it to trains? Yeah tiny
Impressive ✨ I’ve been driving trucks over 14 years and I would love to own one of these Tesla semi’s 🙏🏾💙 well done Tesla 🙌🏽
less than half the load carrying capacity of a conventional truck. There is a reason why they have decided not to supply them to the market now and just use them ‘in house’ 😏
@@bayly1977 Pepsi and Frito Lay are using the trucks right now. Tesla is selling the trucks to other companies as we speak, so I’m sure that the rest of your comment is innacurate lol
@@waynelewis9110 😂😂😂
@@bayly1977 not every truck needs to have a big amount of product in the trailer. day cabs?
@@Gumston true, hence a chip company took it on. Despite that, not announcing the empty weight is shady as
the visiblity out the front alone is a massive safety improvement over desiel truck
Yes, there is no hood. The windshield is big and the driver seat is raised and dash is low giving the driver a commanding view of the road. Also, the windows in the side of the truck gives the drive a 180 degree panoramic view.
@@animalloverjulian8243 This truck has less visibility than a normal cab over has although it is better than a conventional truck with a hood on it. By seating the driver in the middle you get two blind spots next to the drive tires as opposed to only having one when the driver is seated on one side. A cab over has 180 degree visibility and the dash height is really only relevant when parking close to something in front of you. Out on the road you should be looking way ahead and definitely not be following someone so close that you would need to see though the dash to see them. If you are that close to a car in front of you then you are definitely not gonna stop as quickly as they can.
Not been in a European truck, then?
If the first model is this capable imagine what they will be like in 10 years
What do you mean? It could be less capable to cut costs. Its always first generation that they put in best work in also hardly anything will change in that time only battery capacity probably.
Yeah this truck does have all that has gone before it from electric trains and from their own cars and AI and production but these guys love to keep improving its so exciting to see the rate of improvement!
@@outlander234 Compare a 1920's car to a 1990's car.
@@lauriesmith9019 What a ridiculous statement. Car technology has reached its peak long time ago, there are no more massive improvements underway. Drivetrain, suspension, aerodynamics etc. its all solved long time ago. Electric motors have also been mastered long time ago. Only level of improvement is the batteries.
@@outlander234 Look at the Plaid motor, carbon wrapped rotor - never been done before. Every year we see new advances in materials allowing things to become lighter and stronger - no improvements there??? The point is you cant speak of 2033 technology with 2023 thinking.
Thanks CNET Highlights for these 15min concise summaries cuz no one has time for full length Apple nor Tesla etc….presentations as awesome as they are.
Also its quiet and does not stink. Major bonus
That stink causes cancer and neurological diseases.
The air coming out of modern trucks is cleaner than the air going in. Look at the exhaust of new trucks. There isn't a smell.
Your boyfriend thinks the same about you
@@MyNameIsNotEmail.ItsEmail Wow, that comment wins the intrnet today 😂
What's next, toilets whose flushed water is cleaner than the water going in ? 😂😂😂
@@MyNameIsNotEmail.ItsEmail TF? no engine can burn 100% of the fuel especially not diesel engines, so they will always contain diesel fumes and partially burned products like carbon monoxide which are harmful to humans not matter how advance they get.
Perfect for our company as we deliver all our deliveries and pick ups within a 100 mile range with longer distances at some hubs.😎🇺🇸
It's a long range truck, just needs a change of perspective.
It can run an 8 hour shift (except that it's faster, since it doesn't slow on gradients! The test was 500 in 7.5 hours according to the display in the truck? Including a comfort break?)
It can charge during the driver break, (they didn't on the test) collecting enough energy to compete the full 11 hours driving with room to spare (all at max load, with reduced weight? It's even better!)
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Overnight?
Why not use a lower power charger?
Any Tesla V3 car charger can "fill" this truck 0-100% in 4.5 hours.
It's just the same as the cars.
"Outrange the driver, fill while the driver rests, repeat"
@@rogerstarkey5390
Our driver works a 8-10 hour workday and is idle almost half of that due to the loading/unloading process. That time can be used for charging if needed.
less than half the load carrying capacity of a conventional truck. There is a reason why they have decided not to supply them to the market now and just use them ‘in house’ 😏
too bad it can only haul 6 tons
PepsiCo have taken delivery of a handful of tesla semi. So......
Imagine the fuel cost savings for a fleet, it must be tremendous 🤔
it wont, a truck that isn't driving isn't making money
@@lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI Why would it not be driving?
@@lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI it's driving today
@@donlarsenjr2332 Because it's charging. Truck drivers are supposed to take breaks, but they usually don't. The semi might actually be amazing for safety if it forces drivers to take a rest while it charges.
well why dont you calculate it yourself? i have. and at current electricity and super charger prices, it costs more than diesel. and this thing is gonna need 1000kwh of demand per trip. instead of 60kwh that a tesla needs
Great work Tesla, this is a must for this segment 👏
less than half the load carrying capacity of a conventional truck. There is a reason why they have decided not to supply them to the market now and just use them ‘in house’ 😏
Amazing. God bless Elon and the team
less than half the load carrying capacity of a conventional truck. There is a reason why they have decided not to supply them to the market now and just use them ‘in house’ 😏
@@bayly1977 I did not know that, is 83,000 pounds not going to get it done? Honestly asking not judging. Seems like if they can transport lots of their heavy fleet of cars around, there would be many use cases for society 🤷♂️
Well done Tesla team
It's all lies so I guess you mean well done on your lies
Keep on deny and I think u believe Nikola in heart
Well done...only 3 years late
@@pornstarpat 😄
@@paulpaul7777
Nikola is "all down hill" from here on. 😉
What i love about elon musk is he’s not afraid to geek out on occasion about whatever he’s presenting
I ran LA to the Bay a lot, and can see the Tesla Semi having a special place doing runs like this. I'd be super jazzed running up the vine and back down into Castaic, with cold brakes and flying past everyone on the climb. Can't tell you how frustrating it was making sure you had your revs just right and being in the right gear 2-3 miles before climbing. Only to still sluggishly play leap-frog with trucks that were only going 1-2 mph slower than you. It'd definitely make traffic safer actually going highway speed up hill and not slowing the rest of the traffic.
Imagine running on Autopilot, GPS warning of a down gradient, a weather app predicting Ice (low temps) and the Autopilot setting the speed and regen to suit at the top of the hill?
You just watch the systems work and the regen increasing the range.
@@rogerstarkey5390 it's the fastest way to the bottom of the hill I'll give you that
That mfin grapevine, the San Joaquin valley is alright, L.A. traffic is the worst, and the San Bernardino portion of the 15 can be full of traffic on those Fridays and Sundays
no Gears , no jake Brakes.
Several things not mentioned are that currently being evaluated and developed; they are running tests for a driver only in the lead truck of a 3 truck convoy with 2 following trucks fully auto pilot which will reduce driver costs. Second, maintenance costs will be drastically lower with Tesla stating 1 million miles with no repairs. Third, self driving from plant to delivery warehouse will further reduce costs. Fourth, insurance costs will be significantly less with no brake failures, no jack knifing, and no driver errors. I used to own and operate a fleet of 10 semi trucks and this will be a game changer for the industry.
Those are only Musk's fantasies though... They can't achieve anything near to it even with current cars even though they promise it for years.
Yeah, because we all know how great Tesla's autonomous driving is. How does this charlatan keep convincing people that his idiotic products are worthwhile and can deliver on his always wrong claims? It's sad.
This man outshines elon at presentation. Lol.
lmao yes it was cool seeing elon keep quite cause he was so smooth
He propably has flyed in from twitter hq with limited sleep while he has limited information .. This man has spread himself so thin with 8 companies
If they manage to deliver on this, it has a lot of potential
Delivered
Not quite, reliability as these trucks usually push 750k+ miles is incredibly important. Diesel trucks get the same range no matter how long they’re in service. If this truck starts losing range as it adds 50k miles a year to the odometer, it’ll be a logistics nightmare for companies. Curious to see if there’s been any battery evolutions meant to tackle this. Surely they didn’t use the same batteries as in the rest of their cars
@@prettycoolcat time will tell but their new 4680 batteries should reduce mileage loss.
its a scam!!!
@baris bolat If you believe that, I have a cyber truck you might be interested in.
How long does it take to charge? Do you plan to charge or did you make it easy to just swap batteries for pre-fully charged battery instead?
70% of the battery capacity is charged in 30 minutes. The problem is that the charger has a power of 1 MW. Yes, it's not a mistake. 1MW.
I’d be interested to see whose guna be the first to put solar panels on one of these and what kind of range they get. There’s so much surface area to work with
0:58 "New 1000 V power train"
1:30 "We are using our existing drive units, power electronics ...", "existing power train"
Tesla existing drive units are class 400 V.
Tesla's statements as presented are contradictions.
Perhaps the battery is in 2 equal blocks. When charging the blocks are in serial with max voltage close to 1000 V. When used for driving the blocks are in parallel with voltage
I can imagine how much advancement might happen for the Tesla Semi next 5 yrs 🤔
the same as for the tesla 10 years ago, none
4680 cells for one
@@MrPaxio sure...
@@MrPaxio so the model s that came out in 2012 hasn't improved in the last 10 years? Go look at the original specs and look at them now.
I can tell you how much advancement Tesla has managed in five years: NONE. This video is from 2017 and there is still no sign of this truck. They have produced "some" but all are owned and used by Tesla itself.
The one question I have on the regenerative braking. With such a heavy load can the battery up take that much energy in such a short time or do they just dump the power into a giant resistor?
The bottleneck should not be the battery as charging at a station is higher load than what regen capability can capture
Even if these trucks make less money than the cars for the company, for Elon it is not profits and money that is the most important thing but the atmosphere of the planet! Elon always had his values right ❤️
Lmao you’re funny
Semi will have vastly the highest impact on air quality per kwh of batteries of any Tesla to date, just due to doing some 5X(?) more mile/hrs use time.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cruisinguy6024 he could’ve just started. A private equity company after PayPal and sit pretty owning shares in 100 companies and make TH-cam videos. He doesn’t have to sleep at his factory to build up these companies. There’s the easy way to make money and the astronomically difficult way and he chose the latter. That’s someone who is passionate about technology.
Funny that the TRIC acronym is not a coincidence. Mustang Ranch is still the best place to get a sandwich near the Nevada Gigafactory. The ladies are dismayed if you go there just for the food.
This technology would be awesome on regular HD trucks.
why is the single most important figure never mentioned? what is the weight of the vehicle, or a better way of asking the question is how many tonnes of cargo can it carry?
I'd love to see the look on the other trucker's face as he was being passed by a rig loaded with concrete barriers.
Grades deplete batteries quickly. Best learn the physics of energy density. 100:1 ratio of petrol fuels to current lithium ion batteries creates major load trade-offs.
@@DefundTheFringes imagine if a diesel engine was efficient. they are only 50% efficient at most. so if you got you 500mile range you only need to maintain 50% and you are keeping up fine.
@@DefundTheFringes
500 mile range under real world conditions, with a full load.
Also, when breaking or going downhill the batteries are recharging. ICE vehicles have had a good run, but they're reaching their peak of technological advances. BEVs are the future.
@@DefundTheFringes They did roughly as much alt change in the 500 mile demo as Donnor Pass at 8k. One 4k a few 1500 to 2k from SF to San Diego, start and end at sea level.
@@DefundTheFringes It's better than the most recent claims of 500m with only 100m at 1% grade, but then maybe that meant net alt gain of few thousand ft. which makes a big diff.
Anyway--it's more than good enough when a 30 min break is the law, and 350m can be added in that time.
To be honest they did it with the most aerodynamically efficient load as possible. A 53' dry cube is a LOT more for resistance moving through the air.
Your acting like this is a walk in the park …I don’t see any competitor doing it ..and that’s a little embarrassing for vovlo who has been in the business forever
this is the only valid criticism ive read so far
Will know soon enough, the whole point of these companies buying the Tesla semi is to save money.
@@bencrilly209 I am a former trucker. I am impressed. And as to why Volvo or anyone else has not matched it is because they are stuck in their box of what a truck needs to look like or how it needs to be designed and operate. Disruption NEVER comes from the incumbents in an industry. Its always the outsiders who are able to break free of established paradigms. And 99% of all the incumbent businesses in history have failed to survive technology disruptions.
That’s not true what else could they use that is not in a trailer so they could show what it’s capable of doing on video
Question is did the need chains to climb donner pass?👀🤔
They should have big batteries build into the truck trailers, that could recharge the truck when connected.
Often the trailer is just stationary in one location. Use that time to recharge the trailer. Just my two cents.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
The enormous weight of the batteries would drastically reduce the amount of cargo you could carry because you cannot exceed 80,000 lbs legally on federal highways. Less cargo equals less revenue and profit for the shipper.
That will make the truck a lot heavier, costing few tens of thousands per year.
How much to replace those batteries and at what cost?
Cost would be offset by selling the still usable battery cells for grid storage or whatever.
1 million miles warranty.
no need to replace batteries , 8 year warrnaty.
Where’s bill gates at?? He said this wasn’t possible 😂😂
I love innovation, for it causes evolution and improvements in technology. My concern with a Tesla product is one thing: service availability and costs after the purchase and warranty; including parts and batteries. I am not trying to criticize, for I am a Tesla fan, but I do hold some real concerns.
In that case you're not really "a Tesla fan" because you'd know everything you listed is ... "Misinformation"
(FUD)
But nice try
I would have loved to see the expression on the diesel truck drivers face when they passed him on the incline..
Call me skeptical of that hugely sped-up 500 mile trip claim. Who was monitoring whether any recharging didn't happen? Tesla isn't Nikola, but they need more thorough documentation. The Grapevine could really drain a battery with that load. Dig into the physics and you soon find out how much electricity will be needed to charge these, even if the mileage claims are true.
Or better yet the look on the Peterbilt dealers face. Peterbilt has been straight up scamming customers on there electric truck
@@DefundTheFringes on the tesla YT page the have a much more slowed down version.
@@DefundTheFringes There is a real time version. Around 8 hours.
@@DefundTheFringes
The documentation will come from the company's who purchase the first vehicles from Tesla.... in the form of whether or not they purchase more of them.
Remarkable feat of engineering, those motors are astounding .
You probably weren't aware that Tesla did NOT invent the electric vehicle and the first electric vehicle was made in 1890. That's right, 1890. They decided not to go the electric route because it was less efficient than a gasoline engine.
Nothing about any Tesla product is innovative or remarkable and Father Elon wasn't even an original founder of the company. Father ELon is a lying conman. Do some research.
@@johnbauby6612 the 1890 model was a breakthrough that evidently other than the electric milk float, nobody has had the quantum leap in thinking, engineering, production, software etc etc to pull anything out the bag until Elon started the revolution. Now how many are on the bandwagon? I'm not saying electric cars are clean and ethical etc, nor isn't hydrogen isn't the future but this guy has shaken up the car establishment, he's a disruptor. Let's see the reality of his 3 Plaid+ motored semi truck.
less than half the load carrying capacity of a conventional truck. There is a reason why they have decided not to supply them to the market now and just use them ‘in house’ 😏
Love it. The scene is just West of Truckee headed West up the Donner Pass. It’s quite a climb to the top. However only a few miles. From the top of the Donner Summit the rest of the mountain travel is down hill until you reach Sacramento.about 85 miles give or take. I have just one question, how much power loss is there between Sacramento East bound to Truckee? I’ve driven the Donner thousands of times East bound is the true test.
Remember that it recovers most of that on the way down, so it's not a big deal usually.
@@catbert7 yes of course. It’s an amazing feat just to be able to master the Donner in both directions with an electric semi.
@@stevenrushing334
Once you get the concept, it just makes sense.
I wonder if they can add more range to these semi-trucks because the roof area, I suspect can add like a 4kW or maybe even a 8kW solar panel with the roof surface area it has. Not sure if this was already discuss because I wasn't able to find any results on solar panels for the semi-truck.
Weight / complexity outweighs the savings.
You benefit more by using the same panel on a roof somewhere pointing at the sun and charging with that energy.
With some simple napkin math, you can see that adding solar panels on the truck does not give enough range compared to the extra cost. Today.
We have 9.5 kWp solar on our house (25 panels) and the panels cover a decent part of the roof. I would estimate it is about the same size as if it was covering a semi-truck trailer.
Let’s assume 100 % efficiency, which gives us +9.5 kWh per hour during daylight. The truck consumes 2 kWh per US mile, so adding solar would only give around 9.5/2=5 miles extra range per hour, at a cost of 10 000 USD or more.
The Tesla semi made 500 miles in 8 hours. With solar added it would have had an extra 8 x 9,5 / 2 = 36 miles.
Interesting when solar gets cheaper, but not worth the cost with the current prices.
I think you overestimate the power of solar
Cant wait to see these and the Cybertruck on the road in the coming year or so.
Keep waiting
Hahahahahahahaha
@@johnbauby6612 Don't be scared of change. Take a test drive and you'll see why Tesla is taking over the auto industry.
Agreed, I am on that Cybertruck list and I am pumped
@@Mildgreenwow you must be kidding?
Tesla Semi weighs 5,200 lbs more than a diesel semi. 85% of loads are under the 80,000 lbs total weight limit.
Electric has an extra 2,000 lb limit.
A diesel semi with an empty box trailer weighs 35,000 lbs so they can haul 45,000 lbs of cargo in a box trailer. The Tesla can haul 41,800 lbs Note: 85% of all loads on the freeway do not max out load limits. This is a game changer. Diesel semi trucks will become obsolete.
@flamingsprite looks like you are the one who is feeling hurt.
Diesel will always be around. If they went full speed ahead right now it will take them 400 years to replace all trucks
@@devengudinas1649 and you have figured out the math ? post it here ? you think they will,be the only builder . the others will copy them since theirs will have the longest range and best features.
My Tesla stock thanks you
I’ll have a $1 stock and become a millionaire in a few years 😳😳😳
@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 do either of you have a Tesla? And how long does it take to charge back to 500 miles for these semi's?
@@AwesomeBlackDude i dont have a tesla, and i dont know how long the semi charing process is
I think it 30-45 minutes tho
muito obrigado ELON por tornares este mundo melhor ! 🙏
That semi truck being passed on donner pass must've been like WTF!!!
That's going to get very old, very quickly.
500 Miles towing 80k pounds... So how much range will this get with. No trailer (did the trailer have battery pack to?)
It had a load of concrete blocks
Cant wait to see one on a drag strip
its a semi truck lmao who drags semi's (wait nvm I heard it when I said it lol)
I am a trucker and an owner operator. My son just bought a model s and I am super impressed with the power and range of his car, but he uses it for commuting and mostly short trips. In an over the road semi the powertrain in the tesla is hands down vastly superior to my 15 liter diesel power plant and maintiance / repair I am sure are game changingly simple if you burn out a motor I would imagine it should only take a few hours to change out. What are the deal breakers for me are the range (I want to see 1000 miles) and charge time (this must be under 15 min up to 80 percent charge) fix those two items and I order one tomorrow. Until then I have to stick with the diesel.
11:55 You state the total weight of the truck, but how much was the payload weight?
He won't tell
Don't hold your breath. They will never say because the payload is small in comparison to a real truck
Omg. Keep reading and find out😢
@@sherriali1029 Where?
If you know, can you please just state the max payload here?
Well, it appeared to have 9 concrete barriers aboard.
A 10 ft barrier weighs 4,000 or more lbs. A 12 ft barrier weighs 5,000 - 5,500 lbs.
It could be 36,000 to 49,500 lbs.
You may have this feature...
You should put load sensors per tire per wheel per axle whichever..
To compute loads on the screen and to eliminate the use of scales
I thought trailers had to be dead cheap and reliable.
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Is the truck more efficient with the closed in trailer than pulling the flatbed with those cement barriers on?
FULLY enclosed trailer w/ rear AERO device is more Efficient.
This truck has great improvements in long distance transportation. Great stuff, keep pushing Great stuff Elon
Since when was a MAX of 500 miles considered long distance? Keep drinking the Kool-aid
It's obvious you haven't ever driven a truck, 500 miles max isn't going to cut it. When the truck can run 700 miles on a single charge, then we can talk. I was a local short haul driver for years and did 600+ miles everyday and I'm pretty sure a lot of OTR guys are doing that as well. Lets not even start talking about team drivers where the trucks are practically running 24 hours a day.
less than half the load carrying capacity of a conventional truck. There is a reason why they have decided not to supply them to the market now and just use them ‘in house’ 😏
The Model 3 was said to never happen, won't be profitable, etc. When my wife got one, I started calling my BMW 335 "the clunker". TM3 was miles better in every category and ended up being the most profitable compact car in the industry. In other words: don't bet against Elon.
This is not a truck...it's a truck-shaped car which makes it insanely amazing in terms of not having to learn any truck-based driving and maneuvering skills. Definite game changer.
It will help with work load.. and ease of driving down the highway and on grades no doubt this will be an awesome truck for those things..
MOST of the truck related training has NOTHING to do with any that.
Its learning how to back up.. and park how to parallel park a truck.. how to safely maneuver a 70 foot truck around tight cities and town.
ALL of that is difficult and requires training and experience.
Having it be electric changed NONE of that.
Yes..and I suppose the training curve will be so easy and cheap that the cost of hauling goods will be reduced significantly due to the fact that the price of Kilowatts is way more stable than the yo-yo pricing fluctuation of petrol.
@@MolloRelax
The training curve is going to be the same or more.
Most of the training has nothing to do with the powertrain.
Certainly transportation companies are going to love not having to buy diesel but also there are significant maintenance costs involved with diesel trucks. Crankcase on a diesel truck holds 10 gallons of engine oil.
The change interval is definitely longer than your average car, most are about 30,000 Miles.
When can I buy one for taking to my local Cars and Coffee?
This is truly a game changer. Conventional trucks are slow, noisy, dirty, inefficient, polluting, dangerous and difficult to drive. This new semi has none of that. Amazing. Nice work Tesla
Agreed, I try to pass diesels on the highway so I don't have to smell the exhaust. At stop lights you sometimes have to roll up windows. Game changer is a great moniker here.
Game changer? It was a sales pitch and Musk was short on details about this thing.
Dominus Prime - you clearly know little about Tesla follow-through. I too am an engineer - the dual drivetrain and brake regens alone are impressive. Your comment is absurd.
@@attsealevel You absurd thinking that electric trucks with limited range can "deliver the goods".
Yep will be a huge improvement to the trucking industry
Ok... I did the math and this is MIND BLOWING!!
Here in Australia, power for businesses is around $0.21/KWh and Diesel is $2.30 a litre at present.
Calculations per 100KM:
large Diesel truck (23 Metric Ton) uses around 38 Litres/100Km = $87.40 per 100KM
Tesla Truck (27 Metric Ton - 82Klbs) uses 2KWH/Mile = $33.00 AUD per 100KM!!!
Trucks do about 120,000KM a year here in Australia = $104,880 in fuel
If they were Tesla trucks it would only cost $39,600 in electricity.
Saving: $65,280 a year PER TRUCK just in fuel... maintenance costs surely would be less too.
The tesla Truck costs $261,500 AUD (for the long range 805KM version).
The truck pays for itself inside 4 FREAKING YEARS!!! BEFORE IT EVEN HITS 500,000 KM!!
This is obserd! Australia is crazy if we don't take this on.
I'm a retired semi-driver with more than 40 years behind the wheel running coast-to-coast, line haul, short haul, and local I have bad knees from all those years of gear slamming if this works out it will be a game changer.
If you are a semi driver did you notice what i noticed in this video? Elon claimed everything was 80,000lb, that trailer and those Jersey barriers can only weigh 40,000lb meaning this truck is freaking 40,000lb, that is 21,000lb more than the largest Kenworth
@@yesterdayschunda1760 Yeah I noticed that. The battery pack has to be extremely heavy.
@@reggveg It's like they have built it out of lead lol
I am a truck driver, my only question is when we stop to rest how the truck is going to keep us warm on the winter for 9 to 10 hours because we cannot keep the truck plug in the same time with the heater on?
Having to plan on keeping a charge to last overnight will be part of the job I guess.
Let's see....
A heater sufficient for a cab?
2kW?
Call it 3kW.
10 hours, let's say 20.
60kWh.
This truck, 1000kWh.
(You should be ok)
If it's actually 2kW, that's 500hrs or 20 days on a full battery
.
Also, when you stop and rest, the idea is to "ABC"
Always Be Charging.
If you pulled into a service area overnight, even if it had "car" chargers, they could charge this truck in 5 hours with an adapter and power your heating.
(Very few cars would be there)
YOU can Charge and HEAT cabin at same time.
Innovation shipping innovation what a time to be alive.
Smart 👍
I own a fleet of Trucks and have 13 drivers, I want at least 3 of my top hard working drivers in Tesla Semi Trucks. Can't wait till they ship these trucks!
Really look forward to seeing how well these do out in the real world. I think for companies that control both ends of the route like Walmart, Pepsi, Amazon etc. These trucks could be amazing for reducing cost as long as they have a reasonably long life.
Can't wait to see them on the road
less than half the load carrying capacity of a conventional truck. There is a reason why they have decided not to supply them to the market now and just use them ‘in house’ 😏
@@bayly1977 Where do you get "half?" Tesla Semi weighs 27,000 lbs and it gets to haul 2000 lbs more because it is electric. So that tractor equivalent weight is 25000. Most of its diesel powered counterparts are around 20,000 lbs. So, sure you give up about 10% of your weight capacity but that is no where near the "half" you claim.
@Space Related that’s the whole point, they won’t release the empty weight so everyone is trying to reverse engineer it. Musk has excluded the most important piece of information from. I wonder why 🤔😏.
@@eugeneforge😂😂😂 They can’t compete with diesel trucks, that is a fact. More Elon nonsense 😂😂
They will be great for hauling in state. Also could be a possible game changer to get loads over the Rockies. So regular trucks could drop in Denver and the Tesla could run to Moab or Salt Lake and drop.
That is a really interesting use case.
It’s hard to stir up enthusiasm when the people in the crowd have no idea what you’re talking about.
Also, I think the guy on the left should stop interrupting Elon. It’s clearly irritating him 😅
@@grayorganization I don't think so. He added substantive comments. Elon likes substance. I think they made a good pair.
Regenerative braking going downhill has to be quite an engineering feat. To blend in the correct tractor braking with trailer braking is huge. Each trailer represents different parameters for the tractor. If Elon's semi-truck works as presented, this is more of a game changer than regular EVs.
Dual motors on the rear axle if the tractor.
One per wheel.
Precise anti-skid control on each motor.
Tesla semi can go FULL SPEED downhill w/ REGEN breaking.
Regen braking with a 3 phase motor is actually super easy with field oriented control. It's as simple as making the throttle command negative rather than positive. You command a negative torque rather than a positive torque, and the vehicle slows down with whatever torque you command. The math works out beautifully. The software is totally trivial for regen with that type of motor.
@@michaelpaulholmes9667 The tractor regen braking is a no brainer. Coupling that with a loaded trailer and its current braking tech shouldn't be an issue under normal conditions. The trailer manufacturers are now experimenting with their own regen braking technology. Certain trailers are already using that tech. Upsides for everybody.
Lots of great stuff here.. I suspect that carriers that do lots of mountain crossing will want these.. A lot less risk, and much less wear and tear on the equipment and stress and fatigue on the drivers.
the 500 miles trip is impressive.. perfect for LTL or short runs.. any company that goes from a terminal to a destination and back. Can put a charger at the terminal and be ready to go.
Cross country trips. NO.. not gonna work. But that's not really that important. 80% of trucking is short haul work.
My only complaint is in the interior design.. sitting in the middle of the truck.. not so great.. I'm sure the cameras help.. But you really want to be checking mirrors not screens. When going from looking out the front window to a screen in the cab.. you have to change your eye focal length. Doing this all day.. will defiantly result in eye strain.
When you look in a mirror.. your focal length does not change.. you eye is focusing on the object way behind you in the mirror.
Also.. when backing into a dock.. you generally roll down the driver window and look out.. keeping the dock in sight.. and using that to align yourself. Maybe they have a camera solution for that..
A lot of drivers .. like to take family with them.. no place for them to sit.. This is probably not a big deal.. those drivers are mostly the cross country drivers.
Overall this is VERY VERY impressive. Congrats to Tesla Semi team for getting it done.
I'm with you on these points mate. I drive a roadtrain in Australia and most of the drivers I know, myself included, would not want to be sitting in the middle of the vehicle. It basically gives you two blindspots next to your drive tires as opposed to one when you are on one side. Also a lot can happen in the time it takes for your eyes to focus on the screen and then back onto whats happening in front of you. I think Elon and his designers don't understand how often you check your mirrors. No passenger seat means nobody can train new drivers either, which I believe is the most essential part of becoming a professional. Overall it's a big step in the right direction but the cab setup is a major design flaw that needs to be fixed.
@@danmurphy5660
Totally agree, I think the powertrain design they've come up with is really good and for the short haul business is really really perfect. But that cab design really needs to be worked on. You can kind of tell that they must not have talked to many truck drivers before coming up with the basic design. Fortunately I suspect it wouldn't be that difficult to just move the seat to the left and rearrange the interior a bit. I do not like the dependents upon screens for visibility. You're going to have a situation where in freezing conditions those cameras get covered with either do or ice or dirt. And having to constantly change your eye focal length from far away in front of you to a screen that is close to you is going to cause major eye strain.
Sounds like a move to autonomy would be helpful here. No need to refocus your eyes if the tech only uses cameras ..
@@gregbailey45
DOT requires you to scan from front to sides and gauges over a time interval..
It's in the CDL test..
@@gregbailey45 The tech has to go a long way before they will be autonomous. If you knew how many people do stupid things in front of trucks and how often it happens you would understand what I'm saying.
How much is the cost?
about $250k and $200k savings opeations costs.
A very efficient car, powerful motor and the break pads last for ages what is there not to like
Judging by some comments from those who haven't done their homework, plenty!
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Anyone with half a brain who thinks about it sees the benefit.
What about the recharge time after the 500 mile run? Is it off the road for 6 hours while it recharges?
Amazing, good job!!
Do they run them at 55mph since it's in California?
It is not the speed limit it the Nickle. Where are they going get all the Nickle to make these trucks. Russia is the main supplier but they are no longer on the global market.
@@marctemura2017 Nickel for the lithium-ion batteries?
yes,
The greatest innovator of our lifetime and California chased him away.
Greatest innovator of our lifetime? 🙄
If you truly believe that, I have a solar roof to sell you.
@@chrispereira420 Who is greater?
@@jiggig Renault delivered their trucks a week ago, so I'll start there.
If it wasn't for CA taxpayers, Musk and Tesla would have died long ago.
He left when the bills to live here came due and decided not to pay the way you and I do.
@@chrispereira420 LOL: please use your brain: Renault unveiled not delivered a truck which is 50% of the capacity of the TESLA SEMI and 2X the price. Use your brain, please
How about the drivers pay? is it going up as fast as the machines elaborations?
Been reading the comments here about long distance driving and stopping to recharge. I think the idea with this truck is for local daily deliveries within a defined area and not driving across the country.....at least not yet.
As for the cost savings over a diesel truck, the big question here is how long will the battery/batteries last before needing to be replaced and the other big question is the cost of the replacement battery This cost may offset the expense of maintaining a diesel truck vs an electric truck over this time span.
Keep in mind that diesel mechanics and parts for diesel trucks are readily available almost everywhere in the country. What happens if some part fails on the Tesla truck making it inoperable? I am sure Tesla is or will be addressing this issue but it is a valid question as the electric heavy duty truck segment gets off the ground.
When the time comes to replace the battery in any of the EV cars on the road today, the cost of the replacement battery depending on the car may exceed the estimated value of the vehicle making used EV's a questionable investment once the car and the battery reaches a certain point like age and/or recharge cycles, etc. I guess it is no different than a diesel truck with a million miles on it needing an engine which can get pretty expensive.
Pick any 10 year old car today with over 200,000 miles on the odometer. The value of the car vs the cost of replacing the engine may make this particular car a poor investment. But unlike gas or diesel engines which can be rebuilt what happens when the replacement batteries are no longer available? The scary thing when buying an EV today is will the batteries even be available when you need one?
Lastly, with the move to green energy and doing away with fossil fuel power plants, how much will electric cost to recharge this beast in the future? Here is a question I would love for people in congress to answer, how much electric do solar panels produce between sunset and sunrise? How much electric does a windmill produce when there is not enough wind or too much wind?
Where will we get electric from when there is no wind at night? Hint: electric is not stored in the wall as some people think..........
How long does it take to charge
Thinking about all the things truck drivers need to know how to do gives me anxiety. Just knowing that this will be waaaay easier to operate is probably a game changer for anyone who’s job it is to drive these things.
On the flip side, as an ‘other’ on the road I’m scared of how fast these things are projected to move with such weight 😬
I’ll still be steering clear .. ❤ the progress tho.
The whole aim is to not subject people to having to drive these things anymore. As a former trucker all I can say is the sooner we get frail stupid humans out of these cabs the better. There are far too many wheel holders out there in these trucks today that do NOT have adequate training. The industry is in crisis for a lack of drivers and if you have two arms and a pulse? They will stick you in a cab within 10 days.
The regenerative braking system is MUCH safer than old school semi brakes AND they recharge your batteries ⚡
And a speed limit is a speed limit . All semi trucks pretty much follow them .
@@Hipster420 A lot safer indeed. You do not have to worry about missing a gear on the down shift.
Jump in a car.
Accelerate slowly (about 25% throttle)
That's how fast these things accelerate.
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When "moving", they "move" at the same speed as any truck, but with far more control and many more safety features.
why not tell us the cost per mile compared to diesel truck?
Looking forward to seeing the video.
That’s an 8 hour video
As a truck driver I know one of the things Im looking most forward to is, not having a transmission that starts "hunting gears" when Im trying to accelerate through an intersection. Cant tell you how many times Ive felt like that could cause an accident
What do you mean by hunting gears? I'm curious, never heard that term.
@@MrSaemichlaus its when youre in an automatic that uses the air piston actuators to shift, and you mash the gas pedal, and the computer/transmission cant determine what the appropriate gear to be in is so itll pop into 4th, and then immediately into 5th, then 7th etc. and wont budge the truck at all. Really sucks when it does it unexpectedly and you have a car coming right at you while making a left turn in an intersection
@@jjtrades7186 I see, thanks for explaining. I have seen that on trucker vlogs but didn't know the term. I see the potential for danger in that sort of situation.
No mention on the weight? I wonder why...Considering that 100kWh battery in Tesla S weight 625kg and this has 10x the battery it should be over 6 tons just in the battery. There's a reason EV Semis have higher weight limit. Compared to 14.8 liter diesel in a semi that weighs about 1300kg + about 3 tons in fuel that's a bit over the half of the weight that gives you 4 times the range.
But there is very little weight in the way of drivetrain and motors. Diesel engines are heavy and their transmissions are also super heavy. Batteries weigh more, but not the motors and drivetrain. In diesel, fuel weighs less, but a lot more weight in terms of engine and drivetrain.
@@allajunaki but engine + transmission + fuel is still lighter than just the batteries not to mention that it gets lighter as you use the fuel
Remember, the long range version is more of a sleeper replacement. There is a short range semi as well. A sleeper semi can weigh up to around 25,000 pounds.
The batteries for a 1000Kwh battery pack weigh around 8,500 pounds and replace a large amount of diesel equipment. Three electric motors and their gearboxes are likely under 1000 in total. And electric trucks have a 2000 pound bonus from the government. There are a lot of items that will be removed from a diesel truck that aren't needed in an electric truck. 3000 pound diesel engine, 1500 pound transmission/clutch/components/driveshaft, several hundred pounds saved from the exhaust system removal, about half of the cooling system removed, and up to 2000 pounds saved on diesel weight and fuel tanks.
Man I love Elon's personable approach and presentation style. Not like the typical car conglomerate.
It's because in so many ways he is a child, and I mean that in the best way. He understands all of it and at the same time is still amazed with the tech that his companies build. He doesn't just want to make things better. He also wants them cool.
Nice job done. Now let's focus on cybertruck and roadster
cybertruck next year but before the roadster comes out theyre most likely gonna announce and deliver new vehicles before the roadster gets build. Prioritizing the roadster over much higher quantity affordable cars or vans doesnt make a lot of business sense.
I'm assuming this would be best for local? Where and how often and for how long will we have to stop to charge up? And how will our hours of service be affected by this?
It's a good concept but it will take more refining to make it viable for otr. I am sure it's good enough for yd that travel 500mi or less in a day.
It's good for over 700 miles per day in the spec shown.... Fully loaded.
@@rogerstarkey5390 w/o recharge?
I’d definitely be interested in being part of the driving of these new trucks…SIGN ME UP!!!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I bet many people who don't need a semi are gonna buy it just 'cause it's cool.
Yeah and because they have loads of money and tens of feet of driveway they don't use.
Where are they going to charge the truck at
Wow. Great work guys!
What about elogs,refrigerator,or power inverter,will extras drain the battery faster?Can you retrofit through the drive axle to charge truck as it is in motion
Elon should build one into an RV and drive round the world.
RV manufacturers need to wake up and smell the circuitry before they go bankrupt. Price of fuel will cripple their industry as the oil refineries lose the economies of scale. That is why the government named it the "Inflation Reduction Act". They know its coming, and they cannot stop it now.
i agree'ed so hard that I busted
Tweet Elon about it.
It would be far more beneficial if he had built public transportation
@@teachmehowtodoge1737 tweet to him on making public transportation; buses and train carriages with his tunnels instead of underground gridlock with private vehicles
Price?
Less to run
It's getting annoying that none of these releases and videos are mentioning how much of the 81,000 pounds was the load. That an 81,000-lb truck made the trip is awesome, but how much of that 81,000 pounds was the truck and how much was the load? Even at California pricing the one megawatt hour of off peak charge was somewhere in the neighborhood of $500, how many tons of cargo can you haul for that?
2kWh for $1? That expensive in CA?? Wow!
Don't know about US but here in uk, electricity is steadily rising in price
The average price for electricity in CA is 28c per kwh. So $280 to fully recharge this truck. Current diesel price in CA is $6 per gallon. At 8.5mpg average for a diesel semi, you are looking at $353 for the same trip.
@@anthonypelchat 8.5 seems high, more like 6.5.
@@parkershaw8529 Even better. lol