Well since he in no way claimed ownership of the notion, in terms of it being his own original insight, there's nothing at all wrong with the declaration in my humble opinion.
katie murphy Nope. The great Mark Twain is the original one. “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain
katie murphy I think that a great many people (myself included) came to this understanding independently. If you spend a little time thinking about not being conscious, not existing etc., you inevitably end up considering the fact that you didn't exist before you were born. It's a simple logical narrative
"There are twelve year old kids who are told that if they don't believe in god, they'll go to hell." 01:12 This spoke to me so much. As a child my parents thought I was getting close to the point of exploring masturbation. They gave me a religious leaflet explaining how masturbation was wrong and you shouldn't do it. I was so naive, I thought that if you masturbated you liked men. This same religion had already informed me from a younger age that homosexuality was sin. For a while I had a child sized breakdown thinking that I was gay and abandoned by my God and soon my family. It wasn't until my atheist sister came home and found me crying that it was all explained to me. I was informed what masturbation actually meant, that I was not gay and that God was a theory, not fact. She stuck her neck on the line, as it caused a massive argument between her and my parents. She had made me question my faith, but my parents had failed in their duty of education. Funnily enough, neither of my parents are religious in the slightest now. *Religion should never be taught to children as fact.*
+Christian Koncz She really is. Always been there for me and is just the best mum to her kids. Her son had to go to a Catholic school because it was the only one in the area. They sent him home with holy water to bless the house and told him she was a sinner. A school teaching kids disregard toward their parents... He goes to a different school now to say the least.
Sam Bayliss Shocking. I'm guessing you are from the US. This sort of thing would be unthinkable in Europe, maybe with the exception of very rural parts of Southern and Eastern Europe. Transylvania, Sicily, that sort of thing.
+Christian Koncz I know how it sounds, but rural England actually. Hence the shock the school did that. It's the kind of thing you'd expect of America though, with all the batshit things you hear about the bible belt.
Sam Bayliss that surprises me. I guess Hungary is a particularly Atheistic country, but I can certainly imagine something like that happening in Ireland and Poland. But England always struck me as a rather secular country.
"Religious apologists complain bitterly that atheists and secularists are aggressive and hostile in their criticism of them. I always say: look, when you guys were in charge, you didn't argue with us, you just burnt us at the stake. Now what we're doing is, we're presenting you with some arguments and some challenging questions, and you complain." -A.C. Grayling
Popo Sandybanks Well, obviously the religious should expect the criticism to be aggressive and hostile. "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -, Hitch
I sincerely feel that comedians are some of the wisest people on the planet. Not solely because of their ideas, either. I mean I've had the same thoughts as Ricky for the vast majority of my life. But it's also because of how they manifest these ideas in the form of verbal/written communication. It takes a genius to take shit so incredibly sacred to so many people and have them laugh at it. I hope Ricky keeps doing what he's doing. He's a good man and a funny man.
What's hell full of? The Shroud proves Jesus is God. I met God in 2003. Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man in the Shroud is Jesus Christ = (Catholic Jesus)th-cam.com/video/IUFehRFeAMk/w-d-xo.html
I questioned a Muslim on this problem. It seems Christianity and Islam share the belief that as long as you repent for your sins it's enough to go to paradise... Not just not-commiting murder in the first place 🤔 I think someone might've been making up the rules as they went along 😂
Heaven, Hell. Who cares? Child abusers, murderers, rapists, human traffickers get to Heaven all because they say “sorry” at the end of their lives. Bunch of bullshit.
i watched an interview where Gervais said he wasnt agnostic and that he thought agnostics were weirdos who couldnt make their mind up. Glad to see here he had actually learnt the definition of an agnostic atheist xD
Edward Kenway But Agnosticism is not about whether you know if you believe in god or not. It's the belief/view that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of (a possible) god. If one were to approach the question of whether a god exists using the scientific method in an intellectually honest way, they would be forced to come to the position of an Agnostic Atheist. Why? Firstly because you cannot form a scientific hypothesis surrounding the existence of god as it would be untestable because it would be unfalsifiable and secondly, because you cannot test it you have no good evidence upon which to form a belief in the existence of god. Ergo, a scientists intellectually honest position should be by default that of an Agnostic Atheist.
Same thing happened to me. Was about 10 years old, went over to my friends house and asked him if god knew I was trying to believe in him, and he just looked at me with this puzzled look and said "you believe in god?". Then I realized the only reason I was trying to was fear of going to hell. It was like having a weight lifted off my shoulders, I was always so scared I would go to hell because I couldn't make myself believe, awful that millions of kids probably feel this way right now.
Ricky telling the story about his brother reminds me of how I first started questioning religion. My grandpa was an old grumpy man. I was about 8-9 years old and there was a Christian out of curriculum class I was attending at school. We had to paste paper icons of various saints (I was Christian Orthodox) in a notebook and I don't remember why but I was showing it to my grandpa. He wasn't very impressed by it. I asked him if he believes in God. His answer was: "I don't believe in nonsense." And from this moment since I've started questioning everything. It's fun, because my mom is kind of a spiritual type of person, so she's not only into religion in particular but superstitions, astrology,fate and so on. We have good times.
It astounds me when religious people say atheists are trying to force their opinion on others. I ask them this.... When was the last time an atheist knocked on your door and asked you if you have read any other books?... A Jehovah's Missedit maybe.
Laren, do you actually form these thoughts in your head before you type them, or have you a computer infinite monkey program churning them out? I'm atheist. I'm not earning money to say that. I'm not a fascist communist. I'm not looking for another religion. There are quite enough for me to see as ridiculous. Oh and before you see the fact that I find your choice of religion as ridiculous, look at how you see other religions. A blue multi-trunked elephant god? Thor? Zeus? Mars? Aphrodite? Cat gods? How do you see those gods?
I think atheists have to be the most humanist people. Why? This world is the most they can get so they really want to make it a better place. They have everything to live for. So please do more so that this world can resemble more and more paradise.
Unlike the US, the UK is officially a Christian country. I'm about the same age as Ricky - and British - and remember singing hymns every morning in school assembly. I know The Lord's Prayer off by heart. But I became an atheist.
Me too. I enjoyed all the stories from the bible that the minister told us at assembly. I enjoyed singing the songs and listening to the teacher playing the piano. I grew up though, a good man, I hope, and cannot for the life of me understand how people can believe in God and religion.
The only thing that Mr. Gervais is mistaken about in this clip is that the Sun Kil Moon lyric he quotes ("You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste death?") is not an original composition by that band, but is actually a lyric written by Modest Mouse for their song "Ocean Breathes Salty", which Sun Kil then later covered. Other than that, Ricky is dead-on accurate in his views. We only have a finite amount of time here on this planet, in this one life, and then we are gone forever. So soak it up as much as you can, because someday the ride *will* stop.
Mike Tank the only thing I disagree with him on about this is when he says none of us know so we're all agnostic. It's a common misconception that agnosticism has to do with knowledge. It actually has to do with perceived knowledge: A Gnostic atheist lacks the belief in god(s) and claims to know that there is no god. An agnostic atheist lacks belief in god(s), but makes no claim of knowledge that there is a god or gods. Most atheists fall under this definition. A "true" agnostic believes the likeliness of god existing and not existing are equal. An agnostic theist believes that god(s) exist but don't claim to know for sure. A gnostic theist believes to know for sure that a god or gods exist. It's not whether somebody HAS knowledge, but rather that a person CLAIMS to have knowledge, that gnosticism regards. Other than that, and that the awesome Modest Mouse originally made that song, Gervais is absolutely correct in everything else he says.
Ricky quoted a band, "You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste death" . This is a great song and lyrics, sung by Modest Mouse, not Sun Kill Moon, both great bands, he got that wrong. Ricky is always right on point when discussing religion, and I love his work !
I've been having many discussions where I've asked why "agnostics" call themselves that, instead of atheists. Or at least call themselves agnostic atheists. And here he comes along using those two words together. I almost cried. I thought I was the only one. :P (Yes, probably ignorant of me. I bet there are others as well.) But it's very typical of especially famous people, to use agnostic instead of atheist, when they're clearly atheists. Just cause it's somehow more acceptable in some areas still. However, the definition the majority of people who call themselves agnostics use is "I don't believe in a god, but I don't know if one exists or not.". That makes you an atheist, deal with it. "Lack of belief in a deity.". Not using it only empowers the negativity that still lingers from our past. Also, if you feel like this; "I don't know if a god exist or not, and I'm not choosing a side." or something similar to that, then you're still an atheist. To believe, you have to actively do just that, believe. If you don't, you're an atheist.
Nostalgia Guy You do know if you believe or not. To believe is an action. If you don't do that action, you do not believe. (At the moment, if that's the case.). So, until you do, you're an agnostic atheist.
I remember like it was yesterday (I'm 37 yrs old), and I was 4 years old when I realized my life would eventually end. Took me 2 hours to get over my "close-to-panic-attack" state.
What happens to you after death, is actually quite amazing and comforting, if you think about it. Your energy and material returns back to earth (gravity keeps us here) which you came from and you will play a part in creating new and supporting current life. So you don't need to think you will be transferred to somewhere else "heaven/hell/where ever", but you will stay here. So all our loved ones stay with us forever, they are not transferred anywhere. That includes your dog too ;). All life ever existed is still here in other form.
That lyrics is from The Ocean Breathes Salty written by Isaac Brock of Modest Mouse. But Sun Kil Moon did cover that track for their Tribute Album, Tiny Cities.
I don't believe in an afterlife, and the nice about it for me is that i don't ever think about it. It doesn't distract me or my thoughts, it doesn't take up my time, and i don't feel guilty about anything that i do in the mean time that i don't morally find negative.
+11 11 (G-Man112) What an ugly, hypocritical thing to say. People like you make me glad I'm an atheist with real morals. I try to be good to other people not because I'm afraid of being punished by my imaginary friend or I expect to be rewarded for it in the future, but because it is the right thing to do. Those (unlike yours) are real morals.
I remember the feeling of liberation you get when you work out that none of it's real. I'm pretty sure I was the same sort of age as Ricky was when I worked it out.
Listened to this earlier...fucking awesome. Gervais makes a hell of a lot of sense. Can't have faith...in anything...until you completely lose it. Though you don't have to necessarily belong to a side or a team. A lot will argue "You're either an atheist or you're a crazy, bible-thumping zealot! A creationist or an evolutionist! You're either with us or against us!" Not the case. A person can believe in science and still stare in "awe" at a mountain or a flower. The two aren't mutually exclusive. You don't have to pick a "team". This life is a wild ride. Enjoy all aspects of it...known and unknown.
The ability to think, evaluate and rationalise for oneself is not innate in humans. Especially in light of overwhelming religious dogma and subversion from a young impressionable age. Respect.
The song 'Ocean Breathes Salty' from which stems the lyrics, "You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste death?" is by Modest Mouse and was only covered by Sun Kil Moon.
To those afraid of dying: I ran a large spiritual care department at a Hospice providing support for finding hope, purpose, and meaning at the last stages of life. I was 35 when I started. Being around the dying normalizes the experience and those moments had some beauty. Additionally, as we age, others of our tribe die. (Nothing happens as we grow younger! :) As or peers die, we get more used to the idea and guys know.."If that bloke can do it, I can do it better!
great quote "We are all Agnostic because we have no *proof* of Gods existence - but some of us choose to disbelieve (Atheists) and others choose to believe (Theists)"
maybe, but also maybe an itchy nose, or slightly sensitive allergies... you'd prolly think my sister has a massive coke addiction if you saw her walk anywhere in spring.
"You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste the afterlife?" Modest Mouse (Ocean Breathes Salty). I think Sun Kil Moon did a cover of it. "If god takes life, he's an indian giver" Modest Mouse (Bukowski) Just another great lyric I thought I'd add.
6 years later she still listened to him telling the exact same stories 😂. Love Ricky but same stories for a decade Jane has been listening to him for over 30 years
Fun fact, the song he was referring to by Sun Kil Moon is actually from the album he did where he covered modest mouse songs of which the original lyric "You've wasted life why wouldn't you waste death was written by Isaac Brock.
This man has so many one sentence answers to questions on religion. Each one completely destroys the argument. There's nothing people can say back to his answer without sounding completely illogical. I don't know how you can hear, I only disbelieve in one more god than than you, and still be firm that your belief is the right one. I don't get it. How can you not see you will most likely be born into 'the right god' and not see the massive gaping flaws in that.
Clevan Campbell It's not a question of judgement. This is the question in question: "Did you even listen to what he said?". I responded to your answer, because you responded "Yes" which belies the reason for asking the question in the first place. There follows a follow up question: "Did you even read what I wrote?". Perhaps a better answer to your initial question would have been: "No".
I remember like it was yesterday (I'm 37 yrs old), and I was 4 years old when I realized my life would eventually end. Took me 2 hours to get over my "close-to-panic-attack" state.
Secularist FreeThought Perhaps it's because you weren't offering a logical argument and were pointing out only the weak examples that help your case. I've seen crazy religious people, sure, but I've seen more than enough who never bother people about religion that I don't associate the group with "danger and madness." If anything, a much larger portion of atheists are quite vocal about how intelligent they are for seeing through the sham. Just like with modern feminism, actively seeking persecution will ensure you find examples of it while ignoring the vast majority who don't give a shit.
The version of evolution I learned in school was confusing because it was voiced backwards. A new food source becomes available to a species and those in the population who can utilize it have an advantage which eventually effects the population. They always said, 'we evolved' when 'we adapted or died'. Human evolution may even have slowed since we took control of the environment.
Nobody ever said they knew. Did you not even listen to what they had to say? Listen around 9:40, he addresses the fact that nobody knows, and that most people don't claim to know.
***** I'm an atheist but I understand people's need for god. Is just hard for some people to go trough this life without knowing that everything is gonna be all right in the end.. That's why I think god can be anything you want. If I belive a certain pair of socks give me more luck when I play sport arent' they my god in that moment then ? Anything can be your god. You can pray to the peal of a banana if you make yourself think that it really helps you. That's what they probably mean when they say god is all around you.
armin38822 No one need to belive in god. They might strugle to find something usefull to fill the void and then religion swoops in with those fucked up caveman books filled with all kind of terrible shit.
ensteffo Is not all bad. I can see how church gives my small city a sense of community. Is something that brings them together. We as non belivers can't just shit on them. That's not cool...
Link this O&A clip to 7.2 billion people. The result is world peace. Gervais on the O&A show was the best thing to happen to the 21st century, the death of religion.
Opie & Anthony are the only hosts that don't come across as fake or putting on a show, they seem genuinely interested in what guests have to say without an agenda
The "sun kil moon" lyric gervais is referring to is actually a song he (SKM) covered of modest Mouse called "ocean breaths salty" from good news for people who like bad news. It's actually an Issac Brock lyric. Credit. Due.
I think this is a great video for all those people who spout the nonsensical "Atheism is a religion". It's like saying a murderer and non murderer are basically exactly the same- in many aspects of their lives they may be but the one difference is defining and important enough to need seperate titles!
"You wasted life. Why wouldn't you waste death?" is a Modest Mouse lyric from the song Ocean Breathes Salty. Sun Kil Moon covered it. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
I agree with Ricky totally when he says that he likes Jesus but not God. Jesus sounds like a great guy, and at the end Ricky says "I want others to treat me the way I treat them" or something along those lines. Jesus said that. I can't very well believe in God, but I think most atheists would agree that we all believe in morality. When you take from the bible only the direct quotes from Jesus and throw out everything written by Paul and Matthew and all those guys about him, Jesus seems like a pretty cool guy. He can be an example of good person without being the Messiah, which he never claimed to be.
Norman Singh Believe me, I know. Mark:9-20 (the ressurection) wasn't even in our earliest copies of the gospels, it was added by later scribes. Same with the story about not throwing the first stone and the "I am the Alpha and the Omega" quote in revelations. I used to be a Christian, I'm not anymore for that specific reason.
+Norman Singh My grandad died before I was born, (54 years ago) but I can quote you some of the things he said, because I heard them from my mother. The same goes for my grandma (died 72 years ago) and even a great granda - who told my mother (who would have been 90 this year) stories about the Siege of Mafeking (1899). I used to listen to my aunts and uncles, talking together and reminiscing about past events and what was said. I'm busy, writing a book about an uncle, whom I pestered for information, as a child. He was Latvian and his fight for survival, first against the Soviets and then the Nazis, filled me with awe! Through research: conversation with his relatives, friends and historical research, I have managed to piece together most of the story. Because, he didn't tell me his story in chronological order. I want to make it as completely accurate as I can. What I'm trying to say is, don't discredit oral history. Especially, from a time when most people could not read and write, because oral tradition, back then, was more likely to be accurate. When the Gospel writers were piecing together their stories about Jesus/Joshua, many people would have known similar tales: some were exaggerated; some made up; some were from eyewitnesses; some were second hand (like mine); some writers heard tales which others hadn't heard, because they spoke to different people. George Mason is right! From what people say about that Jesus bloke - the things he said and did and the underlying messages, are pretty cool. Whether he was the first to say "Do unto your neighbour..." etc. is immaterial. He was, by all accounts, a top bloke!
Norman Singh Hey, mate get off your irreligious high-horse! I don't give a shit whether you believe or don't believe in a God. There was a bloke,(Jesus/Joshua); one of many 'messiahs' around at the time, who inspired people to write about him. Forget the Bible/religion/God - especially the perverted shit in the Old Testament.By all accounts, about Jesus, he was a top bloke. Fucking chill!
Norman Singh Tell me where Jesus is supposed to have said that women are unequal, slavery is ok and sex with children is ok and I might have to review what I think about him. Don't quote the OT - I know that's bollocks. Don't quote his 'followers', because they're the some of the nuttiest people around. Just describe to me, anything this bloke/ Messiah/ fictional character is supposed to have said about how people should live, with which you take issue. Because, I think he - if he existed - sounds like a pretty nice fella.
I have tested this and said I believe in a religion and have been both defended and attacked by atheists and other religious people....I would rather let my kids believe whatever they want and I would like to think others would allow the same....never enforce your opinion onto someone aslong as they are calm and not a person who wants to harm others...
When it comes to death, the idea of reincarnation doesn't seem that far fetched to me. The first law of thermodynamics states that no energy or matter can be created or destroyed, only changed. So when you keep that in mind, your "soul" or brain function or whatever you'd like to call it continuing to operate as a blade of grass or a gust of wind isn't an absurd proposition.
a pedantic correction: the Sun Kil Moon song Ricky references is "Ocean Breathes Salty," and is a cover of the song originally by Modest Mouse. and that line is fucking brilliant
I think our next Noch with evolving will be when all religions and religious beliefs are absolutely abolished we will change for the better and advance at a much faster rate
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I see Jane is chilling with all of her friends on the couch.
+terraLiquidus You deserve more likes
I was literally just thinking this!
Came here to leave the same comment...
..and you just know she's heard it a million times before haha :)
Damn. Great minds think alike. I was coming to say the same.
"You didn't exist for 14 billion years.. what did it feel like?"
Holy shit, best explanation ever.
Euan Hamilton It is great! I kinda feel like he copied it off Sam Harris though
Well since he in no way claimed ownership of the notion, in terms of it being his own original insight, there's nothing at all wrong with the declaration in my humble opinion.
katie murphy Nope. The great Mark Twain is the original one. “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain
220volt74 You are correct sir, just one of his countless nuggets of brilliance.
katie murphy I think that a great many people (myself included) came to this understanding independently. If you spend a little time thinking about not being conscious, not existing etc., you inevitably end up considering the fact that you didn't exist before you were born. It's a simple logical narrative
"There are twelve year old kids who are told that if they don't believe in god, they'll go to hell." 01:12
This spoke to me so much. As a child my parents thought I was getting close to the point of exploring masturbation. They gave me a religious leaflet explaining how masturbation was wrong and you shouldn't do it. I was so naive, I thought that if you masturbated you liked men. This same religion had already informed me from a younger age that homosexuality was sin. For a while I had a child sized breakdown thinking that I was gay and abandoned by my God and soon my family. It wasn't until my atheist sister came home and found me crying that it was all explained to me. I was informed what masturbation actually meant, that I was not gay and that God was a theory, not fact. She stuck her neck on the line, as it caused a massive argument between her and my parents. She had made me question my faith, but my parents had failed in their duty of education. Funnily enough, neither of my parents are religious in the slightest now.
*Religion should never be taught to children as fact.*
+Sam Bayliss Your sister is awesome.
+Christian Koncz She really is. Always been there for me and is just the best mum to her kids. Her son had to go to a Catholic school because it was the only one in the area. They sent him home with holy water to bless the house and told him she was a sinner. A school teaching kids disregard toward their parents... He goes to a different school now to say the least.
Sam Bayliss Shocking. I'm guessing you are from the US. This sort of thing would be unthinkable in Europe, maybe with the exception of very rural parts of Southern and Eastern Europe. Transylvania, Sicily, that sort of thing.
+Christian Koncz I know how it sounds, but rural England actually. Hence the shock the school did that. It's the kind of thing you'd expect of America though, with all the batshit things you hear about the bible belt.
Sam Bayliss that surprises me. I guess Hungary is a particularly Atheistic country, but I can certainly imagine something like that happening in Ireland and Poland. But England always struck me as a rather secular country.
"Religious apologists complain bitterly that atheists and secularists are aggressive and hostile in their criticism of them. I always say: look, when you guys were in charge, you didn't argue with us, you just burnt us at the stake. Now what we're doing is, we're presenting you with some arguments and some challenging questions, and you complain." -A.C. Grayling
Popo Sandybanks Well, obviously the religious should expect the criticism to be aggressive and hostile. "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -, Hitch
I sincerely feel that comedians are some of the wisest people on the planet. Not solely because of their ideas, either. I mean I've had the same thoughts as Ricky for the vast majority of my life. But it's also because of how they manifest these ideas in the form of verbal/written communication. It takes a genius to take shit so incredibly sacred to so many people and have them laugh at it.
I hope Ricky keeps doing what he's doing. He's a good man and a funny man.
I couldn't agree more. They really do have a way with words.
I couldn’t agree more with this comment. Hard to verbalize and communicate thoughts and he and others are so eloquent
the most intelligent comedians know to play the fool, norm macdonald
" Heaven is full of murderers who said they were sorry" hahaha R.G. is amazing
the delivery of that last Ricky bit slays me "What are you doing here? I said sorry"
whatszat dem’s da rules.
What's hell full of? The Shroud proves Jesus is God. I met God in 2003. Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man in the Shroud is Jesus Christ = (Catholic Jesus)th-cam.com/video/IUFehRFeAMk/w-d-xo.html
I questioned a Muslim on this problem. It seems Christianity and Islam share the belief that as long as you repent for your sins it's enough to go to paradise... Not just not-commiting murder in the first place 🤔 I think someone might've been making up the rules as they went along 😂
Heaven, Hell. Who cares? Child abusers, murderers, rapists, human traffickers get to Heaven all because they say “sorry” at the end of their lives. Bunch of bullshit.
l could listen to Ricky all day, he talks real sense.
I find it incredibly enjoyable because he speaks so simply, it's relaxing.
Nice suprise for my b.day yesterday.my son got us tickets for his show in march,cant wait.x
Really, all day?
Fantastic! Gervais explaining the mutually exclusive nature of agnosticism and atheism. I too call myself an agnostic atheist.
i watched an interview where Gervais said he wasnt agnostic and that he thought agnostics were weirdos who couldnt make their mind up. Glad to see here he had actually learnt the definition of an agnostic atheist xD
Teemo Guides theres a difference between an agnostic and an agnostic atheist.
yes and he said he wasnt an agnostic atheist im just shortening the whole thing to agnostics because we all know he is an atheist
Yea, because, as Ricky said it himself, you can't be an agnostic. "What? You don't know if you believe in God or not?"
Edward Kenway But Agnosticism is not about whether you know if you believe in god or not. It's the belief/view that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of (a possible) god.
If one were to approach the question of whether a god exists using the scientific method in an intellectually honest way, they would be forced to come to the position of an Agnostic Atheist. Why? Firstly because you cannot form a scientific hypothesis surrounding the existence of god as it would be untestable because it would be unfalsifiable and secondly, because you cannot test it you have no good evidence upon which to form a belief in the existence of god.
Ergo, a scientists intellectually honest position should be by default that of an Agnostic Atheist.
Same thing happened to me. Was about 10 years old, went over to my friends house and asked him if god knew I was trying to believe in him, and he just looked at me with this puzzled look and said "you believe in god?". Then I realized the only reason I was trying to was fear of going to hell. It was like having a weight lifted off my shoulders, I was always so scared I would go to hell because I couldn't make myself believe, awful that millions of kids probably feel this way right now.
It's terrible the fear that these evil religious leaders put on people.
God Bless Atheism.
"...And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky, Golden Globes 😉
Ricky telling the story about his brother reminds me of how I first started questioning religion.
My grandpa was an old grumpy man. I was about 8-9 years old and there was a Christian out of curriculum class I was attending at school. We had to paste paper icons of various saints (I was Christian Orthodox) in a notebook and I don't remember why but I was showing it to my grandpa. He wasn't very impressed by it. I asked him if he believes in God. His answer was: "I don't believe in nonsense." And from this moment since I've started questioning everything. It's fun, because my mom is kind of a spiritual type of person, so she's not only into religion in particular but superstitions, astrology,fate and so on.
We have good times.
It astounds me when religious people say atheists are trying to force their opinion on others. I ask them this.... When was the last time an atheist knocked on your door and asked you if you have read any other books?... A Jehovah's Missedit maybe.
Laren, do you actually form these thoughts in your head before you type them, or have you a computer infinite monkey program churning them out?
I'm atheist. I'm not earning money to say that. I'm not a fascist communist. I'm not looking for another religion. There are quite enough for me to see as ridiculous.
Oh and before you see the fact that I find your choice of religion as ridiculous, look at how you see other religions. A blue multi-trunked elephant god? Thor? Zeus? Mars? Aphrodite? Cat gods? How do you see those gods?
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@Laren P Atheism and communism are not even interchangeable. If anything atheists lean more to libertarianism.
@Laren P I don't think you understand the subject
I think atheists have to be the most humanist people. Why? This world is the most they can get so they really want to make it a better place. They have everything to live for. So please do more so that this world can resemble more and more paradise.
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Humane*
humanistic
You might want to consider either going back to school or trying harder in school.
Pretty much opened my eyes here. I'm an atheist now
Liam Williams Good, enjoy your finite existence
ObservableFiction At least he won't be disappointed when he dies.
ObservableFiction So if he starts believing in God suddenly he will have an infinite existence?
Incredible.
Deco20 To his mind, yes
ObservableFiction
How exactly, does this happen? Where did you derive this information and how did you come to such a conclusive statement?
I'm an atheist myself. Love when Ricky Gervais talks!
Heaven is full of murderers who said sorry.
Fucking brilliant
Ricky is always brilliant in the show. They gotta do best of Gervais on the podcast one of these days.
Ricky should go on The Atheist Experience with Matt Dillahunty and answer some calls.
StoryIsEverything fuuuuuck yeah!!
Yes pls or talk heathen
Absolutely
No because Ricky isn't a snowflake sjw like the people of that show...
@Divex I replied to you, I wont do it again - my comment was deleted for using "problem" words... sn0wfl@kes
HAHAHAHAHA, 'what are you doing here?'... "I said sorry." I love Ricky's delivery.
Unlike the US, the UK is officially a Christian country. I'm about the same age as Ricky - and British - and remember singing hymns every morning in school assembly. I know The Lord's Prayer off by heart.
But I became an atheist.
Me too. I enjoyed all the stories from the bible that the minister told us at assembly. I enjoyed singing the songs and listening to the teacher playing the piano. I grew up though, a good man, I hope, and cannot for the life of me understand how people can believe in God and religion.
Only because the queen is head of the church of England. No other reason
Cocaine toilet trip starts at 1:53
Cocaine toilet trip finishes at 7:33
Good spot
@@loodlebop i wondered what Art Garfunkel was doing these days
@@funksoulbrother3620 🤣🤣🤣
I can't believe David Bowie just sat in the background during this whole video.
+Derek Marshall hes looking down on them all now.... or is he???? dun dun dunnnn
HAHAHAHA
Lloyd Franklin why can't you just get the fucking joke
It’s rickys girlfriend lol
The only thing that Mr. Gervais is mistaken about in this clip is that the Sun Kil Moon lyric he quotes ("You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste death?") is not an original composition by that band, but is actually a lyric written by Modest Mouse for their song "Ocean Breathes Salty", which Sun Kil then later covered.
Other than that, Ricky is dead-on accurate in his views. We only have a finite amount of time here on this planet, in this one life, and then we are gone forever. So soak it up as much as you can, because someday the ride *will* stop.
Mike Tank the only thing I disagree with him on about this is when he says none of us know so we're all agnostic. It's a common misconception that agnosticism has to do with knowledge. It actually has to do with perceived knowledge: A Gnostic atheist lacks the belief in god(s) and claims to know that there is no god. An agnostic atheist lacks belief in god(s), but makes no claim of knowledge that there is a god or gods. Most atheists fall under this definition. A "true" agnostic believes the likeliness of god existing and not existing are equal. An agnostic theist believes that god(s) exist but don't claim to know for sure. A gnostic theist believes to know for sure that a god or gods exist.
It's not whether somebody HAS knowledge, but rather that a person CLAIMS to have knowledge, that gnosticism regards.
Other than that, and that the awesome Modest Mouse originally made that song, Gervais is absolutely correct in everything else he says.
Ricky quoted a band, "You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste death" . This is a great song and lyrics, sung by Modest Mouse, not Sun Kill Moon, both great bands, he got that wrong.
Ricky is always right on point when discussing religion, and I love his work !
“What are you doing here?” “I said sorry” 😂😂
"being kind is a lovely feeling" yes :)
I've been having many discussions where I've asked why "agnostics" call themselves that, instead of atheists. Or at least call themselves agnostic atheists. And here he comes along using those two words together. I almost cried. I thought I was the only one. :P (Yes, probably ignorant of me. I bet there are others as well.)
But it's very typical of especially famous people, to use agnostic instead of atheist, when they're clearly atheists. Just cause it's somehow more acceptable in some areas still. However, the definition the majority of people who call themselves agnostics use is "I don't believe in a god, but I don't know if one exists or not.". That makes you an atheist, deal with it. "Lack of belief in a deity.".
Not using it only empowers the negativity that still lingers from our past.
Also, if you feel like this; "I don't know if a god exist or not, and I'm not choosing a side." or something similar to that, then you're still an atheist.
To believe, you have to actively do just that, believe. If you don't, you're an atheist.
You are dumb.
Mike England Nice argument.
Agnostics are just lazy nihilists.
Neeken I don't know if God exists, and I don't know if I believe in God or not, so I'm agnostic aren't I?
Nostalgia Guy You do know if you believe or not. To believe is an action. If you don't do that action, you do not believe. (At the moment, if that's the case.). So, until you do, you're an agnostic atheist.
thank you for recording this!!!
Look at Jane sat in the background with all her friends
Zed's Dead 😂😂
I remember like it was yesterday (I'm 37 yrs old), and I was 4 years old when I realized my life would eventually end.
Took me 2 hours to get over my "close-to-panic-attack" state.
Spent most of this listening to Ricky but looking at Jane.
What are you talking about. Santa is real
+Liche Christ lol
Its Odin
So is the tooth fairy, but why did she only give me money for my teeth when a was a child
& white
Divex
Bikes exist. Mice exist. Mars exists. Checkmate atheists
3:07 Opie: "I'd love to know what it was though."
**sigh**
What a tool 😂😂
What happens to you after death, is actually quite amazing and comforting, if you think about it. Your energy and material returns back to earth (gravity keeps us here) which you came from and you will play a part in creating new and supporting current life. So you don't need to think you will be transferred to somewhere else "heaven/hell/where ever", but you will stay here. So all our loved ones stay with us forever, they are not transferred anywhere. That includes your dog too ;). All life ever existed is still here in other form.
How does anything return back to the earth from a coffin?
"Never trust a man who puts his words in the mouth of God, and says it's the absolute truth" - Aurelio Voltaire
For people who think the same, this is so very on point, so natural and so matter of fact.
Pretty cool that Ricky loves Sun Kil Moon, but I'm surprised he doesn't know that Ocean Breathes Salty was a Modest Mouse cover
I only looked in the comments to see if someone called him on that.
same
Yeah that upset me. I love that song.
That lyrics is from The Ocean Breathes Salty written by Isaac Brock of Modest Mouse. But Sun Kil Moon did cover that track for their Tribute Album, Tiny Cities.
I don't believe in an afterlife, and the nice about it for me is that i don't ever think about it. It doesn't distract me or my thoughts, it doesn't take up my time, and i don't feel guilty about anything that i do in the mean time that i don't morally find negative.
lol really? you're saying i don't have morals and telling me to kill myself in the same paragraph, well aren't you just special.
+11 11 (G-Man112) What an ugly, hypocritical thing to say.
People like you make me glad I'm an atheist with real morals.
I try to be good to other people not because I'm afraid of being punished by my imaginary friend or I expect to be rewarded for it in the future, but because it is the right thing to do.
Those (unlike yours) are real morals.
+11 11 (G-Man112) You have responsibility for things while you live... why isn't that enough?
I remember the feeling of liberation you get when you work out that none of it's real.
I'm pretty sure I was the same sort of age as Ricky was when I worked it out.
Listened to this earlier...fucking awesome. Gervais makes a hell of a lot of sense. Can't have faith...in anything...until you completely lose it. Though you don't have to necessarily belong to a side or a team.
A lot will argue "You're either an atheist or you're a crazy, bible-thumping zealot! A creationist or an evolutionist! You're either with us or against us!"
Not the case.
A person can believe in science and still stare in "awe" at a mountain or a flower. The two aren't mutually exclusive. You don't have to pick a "team".
This life is a wild ride. Enjoy all aspects of it...known and unknown.
The ability to think, evaluate and rationalise for oneself is not innate in humans. Especially in light of overwhelming religious dogma and subversion from a young impressionable age.
Respect.
its interesting watching this because you can definitely see Jim, when he is lining up a joke, starts blinking aggressively.
😂😂😂
The song 'Ocean Breathes Salty' from which stems the lyrics, "You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste death?" is by Modest Mouse and was only covered by Sun Kil Moon.
If only there were more Ricky Gervaises in this world things would be a lot better! Btw is that girl in the background with him?
Pretty sure it's Jane Fallon, his long time gf
To those afraid of dying: I ran a large spiritual care department at a Hospice providing support for finding hope, purpose, and meaning at the last stages of life. I was 35 when I started. Being around the dying normalizes the experience and those moments had some beauty. Additionally, as we age, others of our tribe die. (Nothing happens as we grow younger! :) As or peers die, we get more used to the idea and guys know.."If that bloke can do it, I can do it better!
Hmm, Modest Mouse also had a hit with "you wasted life why wouldn't you waste death?" in it.
I love Ricky Gervais' laugh
For those who didn't pick up on Ricky's puddle metaphor do a youtube search for Douglas Adams The Sentient Puddle.
His and Patrice's logic is impeccable...
Good Ol' Ricky just telling it like it is..
great quote "We are all Agnostic because we have no *proof* of Gods existence - but some of us choose to disbelieve (Atheists) and others choose to believe (Theists)"
7:38 to 7:42 Dude snorts coke and comes back
maybe, but also maybe an itchy nose, or slightly sensitive allergies... you'd prolly think my sister has a massive coke addiction if you saw her walk anywhere in spring.
lil Sammy Roberts wouldn't do such things lol
+Sritanshu Sinha LOL ... yeah you nailed it I guess ;)
when you got to go you got to go
"You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste the afterlife?" Modest Mouse (Ocean Breathes Salty).
I think Sun Kil Moon did a cover of it.
"If god takes life, he's an indian giver" Modest Mouse (Bukowski)
Just another great lyric I thought I'd add.
what you doing here?
i said sorry. hahahaha
Brilliant. Reminds me of Ricky Gervais' movie "The Invention of Lying."
Lady in the back looks like she's a religious person going through an existential crisis as they're explaining how flawed religion is.
+Desmond Logan lady in the back is ricky's partner, Jane
Best comment ever
+Desmond Logan Hahahahaha! I'd love Ricky to see that comment
6 years later she still listened to him telling the exact same stories 😂. Love Ricky but same stories for a decade Jane has been listening to him for over 30 years
Fun fact, the song he was referring to by Sun Kil Moon is actually from the album he did where he covered modest mouse songs of which the original lyric "You've wasted life why wouldn't you waste death was written by Isaac Brock.
Surprising these thoughts aren't common sense. Religion has stunted the growth of physiological awareness of mankind.
Love you Ricky the best what a legend good man love from atheist in Ireland xxxx
"You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste the afterlife?" Is "Modest Mouse"
not Sun Kil Moon.
I'm guessing ricky owns tiny cities.
Lol. Just made the same comment
His explanation of the flower amused me lol. "Took a billion years...and just happened" Lmao.
Yeah that was an incredibly brief explanation of something he is correct about when you know where that explanation comes from
Why did Art Garfunkle walk out on 2 minutes?? 😜
He pooed
7:18 there's a strange cut. keep your eye on Sam walking across the back of the studio...
Ricky Gervais is wise man
Thanks for uploading really really funny and intelligent debate.
lmfao I love ricky gervias
I like to imagine travelling back in time and finding out that the bible was written as some kind of April fool's joke
Why is there an angry young woman in the background?
Shaun Murphy That's Ricky's long-time girlfriend Jayne
Shaun Murphy That resting bitch face.
***** I wonder if she is still Ricky's girlfriend.
Shaun Murphy She's not.... she's his wife now!
TheUKJoconna No, they're not married.
This man has so many one sentence answers to questions on religion. Each one completely destroys the argument. There's nothing people can say back to his answer without sounding completely illogical. I don't know how you can hear, I only disbelieve in one more god than than you, and still be firm that your belief is the right one. I don't get it. How can you not see you will most likely be born into 'the right god' and not see the massive gaping flaws in that.
I'm catholic and i truly support ricky!
i believe that lyric "you've wasted life why wouldn't you waste death" is from Ocean Breathes Salty by Modest Mouse
It is. Sun Kil Moon did a cover and it is terrible and a shame compared to Modest Mouses' original version.
I don't believe in....WE HEARD YOU! Enough. About. Religion.
Considering the video is titled "Ricky Gervais talks Atheism and Religion," you probably clicked the wrong link.
Why are you watching this if that's how you feel... Weird
I love Ricky.
So what he's saying is that his disbelief/belief is based on his mother's disbelief/belief?
Did you even listen to what he said?
Yes
Clevan Campbell LOL. "Yes" he says, shoving more wax in his ears.
I see you have already passed judgment on me. I only asked a question.
Clevan Campbell It's not a question of judgement. This is the question in question: "Did you even listen to what he said?". I responded to your answer, because you responded "Yes" which belies the reason for asking the question in the first place.
There follows a follow up question: "Did you even read what I wrote?".
Perhaps a better answer to your initial question would have been: "No".
When preachers told me about this guy coming back from the dead like a real zombie, that freaked me out way more than death.
WTF who remembers when they learned they would eventually die? I don't remember!......
Who remembers the first time of anything that has a profound effect on us? Tell me...
I remember like it was yesterday (I'm 37 yrs old), and I was 4 years old when I realized my life would eventually end.
Took me 2 hours to get over my "close-to-panic-attack" state.
I wonder whether Jane agrees with him... I do. She smiles along with those ridiculous propositions about what heaven would be like.
Is he an atheist?? I had no idea!
You should watch his movie "The Invention of Lying" then. Rob Lowe and Jennifer Garner in it too. Pretty funny.
oneder101 I was being sarcastic. In my opinion, he never shuts the hell up about how he doesn't believe in a god.
VinylSolution And that is a GOOD thing.
Secularist FreeThought As an atheist, I really think you should get out more.
Secularist FreeThought Perhaps it's because you weren't offering a logical argument and were pointing out only the weak examples that help your case. I've seen crazy religious people, sure, but I've seen more than enough who never bother people about religion that I don't associate the group with "danger and madness."
If anything, a much larger portion of atheists are quite vocal about how intelligent they are for seeing through the sham. Just like with modern feminism, actively seeking persecution will ensure you find examples of it while ignoring the vast majority who don't give a shit.
that Sun Kill Moon lyric is actually a Modest Mouse lyric. they did an album of modest mouse covers
+DenemChikn I'm guessing it's the same as people who think Hurt is a johnny cash song!
THERE IS NO GOD, THERE NEVER WAS, THERE NEVER WILL BE.
lmao
William Kendrick Wrong. I AM GOD.
Dont believe me? Re-read my comment. Boom. I am god
The version of evolution I learned in school was confusing because it was voiced backwards. A new food source becomes available to a species and those in the population who can utilize it have an advantage which eventually effects the population. They always said, 'we evolved' when 'we adapted or died'. Human evolution may even have slowed since we took control of the environment.
nobody knows wtf is out there lol.. lets all stop acting like we know
Nobody ever said they knew. Did you not even listen to what they had to say? Listen around 9:40, he addresses the fact that nobody knows, and that most people don't claim to know.
@@shuriffnutslap2559 religious claim it though
Ricky Gervais is inspiring
God is whatever you want it to be. That's how I see it.
***** I'm an atheist but I understand people's need for god. Is just hard for some people to go trough this life without knowing that everything is gonna be all right in the end.. That's why I think god can be anything you want. If I belive a certain pair of socks give me more luck when I play sport arent' they my god in that moment then ? Anything can be your god. You can pray to the peal of a banana if you make yourself think that it really helps you. That's what they probably mean when they say god is all around you.
armin38822 No one need to belive in god. They might strugle to find something usefull to fill the void and then religion swoops in with those fucked up caveman books filled with all kind of terrible shit.
This comment is almost exactly like the answers that come up when you search "is santa real"
ensteffo Is not all bad. I can see how church gives my small city a sense of community. Is something that brings them together. We as non belivers can't just shit on them. That's not cool...
armin38822 Not only is that the way you see it. It is the way it is.
Thank you, Ricky.
Well said Mr. Gervais.
Link this O&A clip to 7.2 billion people. The result is world peace. Gervais on the O&A show was the best thing to happen to the 21st century, the death of religion.
I'm so glad I was not brought up into a religious family. Atheist before I even knew there was a specific word for not believing in a God.
Opie & Anthony are the only hosts that don't come across as fake or putting on a show, they seem genuinely interested in what guests have to say without an agenda
The "sun kil moon" lyric gervais is referring to is actually a song he (SKM) covered of modest Mouse called "ocean breaths salty" from good news for people who like bad news. It's actually an Issac Brock lyric. Credit. Due.
I think this is a great video for all those people who spout the nonsensical "Atheism is a religion". It's like saying a murderer and non murderer are basically exactly the same- in many aspects of their lives they may be but the one difference is defining and important enough to need seperate titles!
"You wasted life. Why wouldn't you waste death?" is a Modest Mouse lyric from the song Ocean Breathes Salty. Sun Kil Moon covered it. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
I agree with Ricky totally when he says that he likes Jesus but not God. Jesus sounds like a great guy, and at the end Ricky says "I want others to treat me the way I treat them" or something along those lines. Jesus said that.
I can't very well believe in God, but I think most atheists would agree that we all believe in morality. When you take from the bible only the direct quotes from Jesus and throw out everything written by Paul and Matthew and all those guys about him, Jesus seems like a pretty cool guy. He can be an example of good person without being the Messiah, which he never claimed to be.
Norman Singh Believe me, I know. Mark:9-20 (the ressurection) wasn't even in our earliest copies of the gospels, it was added by later scribes. Same with the story about not throwing the first stone and the "I am the Alpha and the Omega" quote in revelations. I used to be a Christian, I'm not anymore for that specific reason.
+Norman Singh My grandad died before I was born, (54 years ago) but I can quote you some of the things he said, because I heard them from my mother. The same goes for my grandma (died 72 years ago) and even a great granda - who told my mother (who would have been 90 this year) stories about the Siege of Mafeking (1899).
I used to listen to my aunts and uncles, talking together and reminiscing about past events and what was said.
I'm busy, writing a book about an uncle, whom I pestered for information, as a child. He was Latvian and his fight for survival, first against the Soviets and then the Nazis, filled me with awe! Through research: conversation with his relatives, friends and historical research, I have managed to piece together most of the story. Because, he didn't tell me his story in chronological order. I want to make it as completely accurate as I can.
What I'm trying to say is, don't discredit oral history. Especially, from a time when most people could not read and write, because oral tradition, back then, was more likely to be accurate. When the Gospel writers were piecing together their stories about Jesus/Joshua, many people would have known similar tales: some were exaggerated; some made up; some were from eyewitnesses; some were second hand (like mine); some writers heard tales which others hadn't heard, because they spoke to different people.
George Mason is right! From what people say about that Jesus bloke - the things he said and did and the underlying messages, are pretty cool. Whether he was the first to say "Do unto your neighbour..." etc. is immaterial. He was, by all accounts, a top bloke!
Norman Singh Hey, mate get off your irreligious high-horse! I don't give a shit whether you believe or don't believe in a God.
There was a bloke,(Jesus/Joshua); one of many 'messiahs' around at the time, who inspired people to write about him. Forget the Bible/religion/God - especially the perverted shit in the Old Testament.By all accounts, about Jesus, he was a top bloke.
Fucking chill!
Norman Singh Tell me where Jesus is supposed to have said that women are unequal, slavery is ok and sex with children is ok and I might have to review what I think about him.
Don't quote the OT - I know that's bollocks. Don't quote his 'followers', because they're the some of the nuttiest people around.
Just describe to me, anything this bloke/ Messiah/ fictional character is supposed to have said about how people should live, with which you take issue. Because, I think he - if he existed - sounds like a pretty nice fella.
Norman Singh "He sounds like a pretty nice fella too. ". There you go! We got there in the end.
I have tested this and said I believe in a religion and have been both defended and attacked by atheists and other religious people....I would rather let my kids believe whatever they want and I would like to think others would allow the same....never enforce your opinion onto someone aslong as they are calm and not a person who wants to harm others...
At 2.04 Art Garfunkel walks out of the studio .
When it comes to death, the idea of reincarnation doesn't seem that far fetched to me. The first law of thermodynamics states that no energy or matter can be created or destroyed, only changed. So when you keep that in mind, your "soul" or brain function or whatever you'd like to call it continuing to operate as a blade of grass or a gust of wind isn't an absurd proposition.
a pedantic correction: the Sun Kil Moon song Ricky references is "Ocean Breathes Salty," and is a cover of the song originally by Modest Mouse. and that line is fucking brilliant
I think our next Noch with evolving will be when all religions and religious beliefs are absolutely abolished we will change for the better and advance at a much faster rate
I could sit and talk to Ricky til the end of time