Liquin vs Stand Oil (OIL PAINTING MEDIUMS EXPLAINED)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- I go over the 2 types of mediums I use for oil painting and why I enjoy using both of them. Each have it's benefits and limitations! If you'd like to learn more about liquin original, check out my video here: • How to use Liquin Medi...
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Omg you answered every question in a few minutes after watching a dozen vids for hours. Thank you
Hi Beau, I’m a retired photojournalist, just now getting into oil painting. Many of the tools and processes have change since my art school days in the early 80’s, so I really appreciate how you don’t take for granted the knowledge level of your viewers. I will be following your upcoming videos and looking for past ones. Thanks a lot, Dallas
Welcome back to painting Dallas! Keep me posted if you have any questions :)
Art school taught me nothing , thanks to the algorithme i discovered good tips. Thanks so much!!
Happy to help! Online education is so helpful! Plus now you have access to those you look up to for workshops or classes (skillshare, creative live, masterclass). There's nothing wrong with learning more by taking classes locally or doing a 5 day workshop. Stay out of debt my friend so you can keep on making art! You've got a good head on your shoulders
You mean you wasted your art teacher's time and experience ?
Had to laugh when you brought out the Talenti jar...I have stacks of those in my studio, they're so great!
Future goal: *sponsored by talenti*
LOL…😂 I have way too many Talenti jars in my studio also. Though mine are all the appropriate flavor of Coffee Chocolate Chip.😋
You've helped me SO FRICKEN MUCH more then any other oil painter because i was CLUELESS n now because of you i know what to do! Def subscribing! Thank you so much
I’ve been searching forever for this kind of video!! 🤍
Yay!
Me too
Hi beau, the first time I saw and listened to your experience. Thanks for sharing with us. In this world many people can't have the chance to arts school or college. Because of monetary problems. But they have passion and love for art (people like me). And people like you to teach them and suggest them for better artists and enjoy. with paintings. Thank you ❤️ Beau from the bottom of my hear🙏
You sold me when you held up the Talenti container! I have a studio full of these that everything gets stored in as well as using them for mediums and paint. Thεy are almost the perfect jar. Oh, thanks for the informative video too!
Need to give stand oil a try, thanks for the explanation! 🙏🏼
I really like it. It helps for forcing me to work quickly and in less layers
hey beau, so how do we follow the fat over lean rule when using liquin? or do we not have to worry ? thanks !
Awesome videos Beau!
Thanks for this. Well presented. I have both products and enjoy using them. I will be watching for your past and new videos.
Nice video! Best way to prevent cracks is following the rules of fat over lean. It's something I'm sure you are doing but when you talk about glazing using liquin or about diluting oil you could be misunderstood. Liquid is lean so is not suitable for glazing. Stand oil is suitable for glazing but diluted 50/50 with odorless mineral solvents makes it less fat and not suitable to use for the final layers. Again, I'm sure you know this but people who don't know it could misunderstand what you are saying.
This was really helpful, thank you! Love your art and videos! :)
I'm so glad you liked it! More to come soon!
Also I love the detail in your work beautiful
I loved your explanation and the vibe from your videos ✨✨
Please share a video where you show how you use the 2 liquin and standoil .share the proportion too. How much quantity do you mix into your colour and show a few strokes where you use only colours and the other with the mixture and paint .please...
Thanks for the info! Noted on the talenti jar lol, I have been using jam jars and old prescription bottles for some of my mediums (i do label them LOL). I've used liquin quite a bit, experimented with stand oil mixtures and most recently have started trying the Mgraham Walnut Alkyd Medium; which seems to behave more like a standard refined linseed oil. I like experimenting with different oil mediums it makes me feel like a mad art scientist lol. Merry Christmas! You are adorable btw
Odourless doesn’t mean non toxic .
Cool video
Thank you very much.
Thx Beau!
You’re welcome! :)
Thx Beau! Good info
Any time!
Thanks a lot! My college has never taught me this. I just finished a painting with pure stand oil on the last layer.(I liked how sticky standoil is.) Would its surface crack in the future? I wonder😅
It’s all about finding tools and practices that work for you. There are tons of different mediums to help ease the flow of painting. Try this blend out and see if you like it. I often switch back and forth between liquin and standoil/ gamsol!
Great video. Thanks
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Which do you think is better liquin or Galkyd ?
Thanks
Hi, great video ty
I thought Casey Baugh used Prohibition Medium by Edge Pro Gear which is stand oil/damar varnish/ turp.
Sometimes he does but this is what he recommended during his class!
I’ll definitely use the talenti container 👍🏽
I've kept so many and used them for various projects! haha
Good information sir👍🏾👍🏾
Budget Tip: If you premixed your expensive old holland oil paint and liquin on a palette and you have a lot left over, store your palette in a freezer, it will keep a few days without drying (don't store it next to your food of course).
Thank you!
using projector for oil
I'm a beginner in oil painting coming from watercolors and I have Cobra water mixable paint so it's easier to clean the brushes without the need of spirits. But I'm not sure if the Cobra medium is any good. Do you have experience with water mixable oils?
Can you use liquin to block in really lean on bottom layer or will that add too much oil medium
Can we mix Liquin original with Stand oil ?
Also do you use liquin from the very first layer to almost" a final layer ? Basically I'm asking how do you manage Fat over Lean rule with liquin.
And yours videos are really informative and fun at the same time.
You can probably mix it together but it might be very sticky. I’d suggest adding gamsol if you plan on it. Each medium serves a different purpose so depending if you want to work in layers or work more alla prima, each medium is more inclined for that usage. I’ve made paintings only with liquin and only with stand oil as well as done both. Sometimes certain areas of a painting are more suitable for one medium and not the other. For glazes I’ve found liquin to be best but for larger areas, stand oil performs better for covering more ground. Lean coats first, thick layers later.
@@BeauBFrank thanks for answering.
I am curious about when you work in many layers , and not wet-in-wet.
Like, you used liquin to block in major shapes . And next day it's touch dry, how much liquin do you use in next day ? Same amount or you gradually increase it ?
Same amount usually! On skin I tend to have blocked in shapes that have less liquin and then the layers that are glazes are more liquin. Depends on if you are painting or glazing.
Hi thanks for the info. What ratio of paint to liquin would you recommend to get a better flow but retain paint opacity? Thanks
Thanks for this informative video. I still have a question about using Liquin original. Do you mean to say Liquin original should be used at the end of the portrait for finishing glazes and applying to smooth out the brush strokes? Can it be used for underpainting and also applying the second level of colors step by step? I have been painting for more than 25-30 years and used linseed oil and odorless mineral oil. but now when seeing other artists' videos to learn more varieties I see they suggest Liquin Original and other Liquin varieties to give 3D effect etc. I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks. And yes, I liked your sweet dimples! Blessings, Son!
Liquin original in small quantities acts like a traditional medium which allows for the paint to move more smoothly. If you're looking at having thickness and texture you can use "liquin impasto" to add to your paint to keep it's form and shape. Higher quantities of "liquin original" will result in semi-transparent paint which can be used for glazes (thinned paint layers that don't block the layers below but rather change the value, intensity or color/ much like painting over a grisaille.
The smell of liquin doesn’t annoy you ?? I’d like a gel medium but that doesn’t smell horrible do you know any ?
olio gel is another but I found that when I used it, varnish tended to pool a little and not adhere to the canvas as well. To remedy the smell of liquid I usually have a little container with a lid on that I can put liquid into and seal when I'm done using and I only use as much as I need for one sitting. I keep the window cracked,, have a fan blowing and also have an airpurifer in my studio (levoit)
hi, im really new to this area, I was wondering if diluting the paint with normal odourless white spirit (or Kerosine) will it have the same effect as this two medium? trying to learn how to thin the paint and do some glazing with less brush stroke😅
The reason gamsol is the #1 choice is because it is odorless and won’t be bothersome while painting. Some mineral spirits like the one used for house paints may be too harsh and won’t work the same as a mineral spirit specific to oil painting. I haven’t tried kerosene but I wouldn’t use it unless it specifies being a product usable for painting.
Hello
I have shiny liquin pieces in my oil portrait and it looks not nice... how I can even it out with the other parts.?
May help a whole only liquin glaze..? Cause with oilng it out with linseed oil the shiny liquin parts are still shining tooo much.
Please any advice ❤
I would not recommend using liquin as a way to unify the sheen. It's a medium that needs to be mixed with paint when applied. I suggest using a varnish on the painting once it is completely dry instead to unify the sheen. There are different variations of sheen varnishes if you want it matted or glossy! hope that helps
@@BeauBFrank thank you so much for your advice.
Have s good time
Hi Beau.. I was wondering if the drying time of the stand oil medium is similar to liquin?...
I would say liquin dries twice as fast!
doesn't adding gamsol or thinner to stand oil, really just turns it into linseed oil? because stand oil is thickened linseed oil.
Hi Frank, i booked for Paris workshop of Casey Baugh, and it's one of my favourite artist, so i'm kind stressed to meet him with all the others students and to paint in public. Any tips to give after you lived this experience ?
great video btw :)
Hey Laurent, it can feel intimidating meeting someone you look up to so I totally get it. Casey Baugh is very down to earth and attentive. He was generous with his time going from student to student but don’t be afraid to speak up and ask for help you require it. Also I’d recommend paying attention to him while others are painting to hear the kind of insight he gives other students. It can be just as helpful. Watching him paint is where you’ll get the most out of it so recording him and looking at the screen is great and all if you want to check back later but I’d recommend trying to be as present as possible and attentive to learn directly from Casey. It was a rollercoaster ride but definitely worth while. You get to chat with Casey throughout the day and during meal breaks so don’t be shy and ask him questions if you have any. Relax and have fun! I’m sure you’ll learn and make friends with the other students as well!
Beau B. Frank thank you so much for this complete answer
It really help 🙏
Ill try my best to follow your advice for this adventure
Have a great day
@@laurentcartier8499 Just so you know, I did have a few meltdowns where I was embarrassed since my painting wasn't going very well but honestly, walking away with a beautiful painting isn't the goal. IT'S LEARNING FROM CASEY! Don't beat yourself up, show up and do your best, and try and look at the experience as an opportunity to grow and make connections! Amuse toi bien et bon courage Laurent! :)
Beau B. Frank can totally understand that ,he uses an unique method with his own medium and layering effets...
It’s difficult to learn a New way to paint and « master it » at the same Time
I remember a story of him showing the works of his students it was so good 😶
I was like damn i’m so far from this level 😩
Did you clearly saw an improvement in your works after that ?
Merci beaucoup toi aussi
( sorry for my english btw)
Salut Laurent,
Tu as pu assister à ce workshop de Casey Baugh à Paris?
Hi, can the base layers be done with liquin & the final layers be done with linseed oil?
Liquin is fast drying, so I'd make sure to allow for the liquin to dry fully before applying additional layers with other materials such as linseed. I've done the method that you inquired about but I prefer a standoil/gamsol blend. I sometimes do a combination of both liquin and my standoil/gamsol blend in paintings since both provide different types of effects
@@BeauBFrank oh, thanks a lot!
how or where do you get those round panels ?
Trekell panels are great!
In what proportion we mix standoil
50/50 standoil to gamsol
Hi there. Thanks for sharing this info! Quick question, the ice cream jar you use, is it plastic or glass? I have a fairly consistent supply of plastic ice cream tubs (😏) and they’re all plastic. Just want to make sure the stand oil doesn’t disintegrate the container if it’s plastic! Lovely work by the way.
Talenti is plastic containers so instead of recycling them I use them for different art projects. It does not disintegrate the plastic. I've been using the same one for almost a year and half hahaha. Hope all is well Jessica! Ps:salted caramel is a fantastic flavor to try!
Great art Beau! I have to store my paintings in the dark, sadly I noticed that my paintings made with stand oil (Schmincke) after 6 month get slightly yellow… is there a stand oil brand that doesn’t yellow over time/in the dark? Walnut and linseed got deep yellowish, I will not use that any longer. I tried sunflower oil, it seems to get yellow too, now. Maybe safflower oil. Can you recommend or do you have experience with that oil?
I don’t know if this will apply to you but try letting it sit in a sunny window area of your home. Let it hang out there for a few days. I’ve been told that linseed oil and other oils like standoil will yellow over time if kept in the dark but then return to normal when exposed to sunlight. Give it a go and let me know if you find this to be true or false.
Winsor & Newton says storing oil paintings in the dark will cause discoloration. The remedy is to expose them to indirect sunlight for several days. That should do the trick.
How about if I use the oil paint directly from the tube?will it last long compared if it is mix with medium(gamsol and stand oil 50:50 ratio?thnks
all paints are built differently and depending on if it's a lighter shade or a darker shade, will have varying drying times. whites take several days to dry and will last long on a palette, while blacks can dry quickly when exposed to air. I don't usually apply paint without medium since it is far too thick and won't cover much ground. The medium allows the paint to travel further and to lay it on thin so that you don't encounter issues later on like cracking or splitting. Medium helps to bind the paint to the canvas as well. stand oil slows down painting drying time and the gamsol dilutes it/helps speed up drying time. I've never timed it so I'm honestly not sure.
thanks a lot but still have a Q if i would to choose between liquin or stand oil ? i
I use both still in my practice. When I need a painting to stay "wet" for longer to be able to rework areas or when I need to cover large areas of the canvas, I use stand oil. When I need to work fast on a deadline or do glazes, I work with liquid since it has fast drying times and is good for creating semi transparent layers. ultimately each serve different purposes but can get the job done either way
How do you dispose of the gamsol mixture? Thank you.
gamsol naturally evaporates over time so you place it in a cup and put it outside, it should go away without hurting the environment.
Thanks for the info! However, I’m still confused about liquin(Nice studio btw). Can I use liquin over 50-50 turpentine/linseed oil mix? Or I should just finish the painting with linseed oil? Is linseed oil fatter or liquin fatter?
And can I mix liquin with other mediums??
W&N recommends adding liquin to every layer to even out the drying time. They describe liquin being fat rather than lean, but it can also be mixed with other mediums. Its what ive read though, i havent tried it myself, hence im here, looking up tips on liquin on yt ;) so i think the way i will aproach it is liquin + white spirit then liquin and for last layers liquing and some oil.
@@mald379 Okay 👍 thank you for the clarification. I’ll follow your approach of using liquin:)
Not really ideal since liquin already has its own "solvent' on it, so you are wastign a bit of what you piad by using so much turpentine.
Well! Have you ever tried the Gamblin Galkyd Lite Medium? In my country is finally available but it is so expensive and I don't understand if it can replace turpentine or white spirit or liquin or what🤣..Can you suggest me something about please? I'm looking for a good odorless thinner oil painting medium that let dry faster everything🐒 kiss from Italy🙃
I haven't tried it yet! I'll have to do some research and learn more about tit. If you're looking for an odorless paint thinner then gamsol is great! Stand oil alone doesn't smell so I would suggest trying the gamsol/standoil method. Liquin on the other hand tends to produce more of a noticeable scent. I still recommend having an open window or a fan circulating air even with the standoil/gamsol blend though you won't notice the smell personally.
@@BeauBFrank ok, thank you very much! Good evening🙂
Add just a couple of drops of cobalt driers into your stand oil medium and you will be blown away with the drying time. Your life will be changed and liquin redundant.
I'll definitely try that! I still hold a special place in my heart for liquin though. We made so many paintings together!
Beau B. Frank both will do much the same thing.
But have you tried galkyd from Gablin? It's exactly like liquin but doesn't yellow like liquin
I haven't tried it! I'll have to do some research!
pinkdogapples you mean Galkyd Lite (the "yellow one") or Galkyd ("the brown one")? I'm so interested to understand before to buy it because in my country is such expensive! 😅🐒
I use stand oil straight up. I dont cut it. It keeps the paint opaque. Dont use my ideas.
dear sir video is little speedy.dont understand.plz say slowly.nd give sub titles.❤️🙏❤️
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Excellent video. Need to work on the "up-talking" 😊
will do!
i have liquin’s smell. it’s terrible.
only place as much as is needed per session and when done, place Saran Wrap over it!
lol i thought this was soy sauce from the thumbnail
hahaha