Armed with nothing more than a plank, two pairs of steps and a couple of your videos, today I successfully papered my first ceiling. Thanks for sharing :-)
Thank you so much for all of your tutorials. They are so informative and clear. I've done my own decorating for many years now, although still learning. After watching this video 2 or 3 times, I followed your method with same grade lining paper and applied to my ceiling with successful results.
For all that work and cost ;the client may have had some imagination and had you install a paper with a beautiful design. Thank you for the instruction! I was at a quandary as to how to get a long strip up there . Now I know.
Lined a few ceilings over the years. As good a video as youll get from a tradesman. Ignore the PVA haters. If used correctly it works 100%. Great work mate. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much for posting this video! I watched the entire video thinking "there's no way it's going to work like that for me" but when it came time to wallpaper our bathroom ceiling- everything worked out exactly as you showed it here. I didn't have any extra paper to roll up when we started, so I used a sturdy wrapping paper roll that I cut down to size and it worked like a charm! Wonderful video!
Did he apply glue on the celling first, or this is self adhesive wallpaper?!!! Need to do the bathroom ceiling , if someone can advice what king of wallpaper to look for...thanks from advance!
That was brilliant...I just went through about 5 or six other videos until I found this. Either they were awful video and audio or badly presented or just generally useless. Thanks for a great presentation. Really very nice - Right I'll get started....
Wow man you make this look so easy! Very helpful video thank you, although I’ll be doing my own ceilings which look at least twice the height of that room! 😩
At college , they learn you to paper a ceiling, need strengt, , I learnt from a top assessor, One the best trades decorating!!! College is a wonderful place
Hi if you have a sloping ceiling at the window end, with a dorma window. The slop is not quite true. Would you recommend hanging lining paper ready for emulsion across the window or from the window?
Hello I like your videos very informative, iAm asked to paper a ceiling and the finish is gloss paint , what can I put on the ceiling so the paper can adhere to it, if any thing,in the old days they put finishing plaster in with the glue size, haven’t seen that in years, thanks
I have used a long handled brush but you still need a raised platform to walk on, no mention of that here. I had to piece mine. moving across from one small set of steps to another whilst holding the brush !!
It would have been helpful to see how he folded the paper on the wall "demonstrated", and there are better ways to cut it if you are on the wall, but there are other videos on the topic. 🙂
Can someone tell me what is the point of doing this? To make the ceiling smooth or eliminate any imperfections? Provide support to underlying plaster ceiling?
As an absolute noob this leaves so many questions for me. I appreciate anyone who takes the time out of their day to be helpful, but I'm just left with so many questions. Are you on stilts? Can this be done without them? Exactly how did you prep the ceiling? A quick, sped up portion showing that would have been cool. I do realize this vid is a couple of years old now, I hope any more you have done are a bit more informative.
He's using two pairs of step ladders and a plank (as a makeshift platform). So yes you can do it without stilts, you just need said items. As for prep. Just make sure all bits of paper are stripped, good sand on what's needed, fill, caulk any cracks, gaps etc. Another sand down. He also rolled the ceiling with pva glue which does help the paper stick but if you can't get any...just use paste!! Hope that helps 👍
@@PaintingandDecorating yes, thank you. I know what pva glue is. And I understand, diluted it will soak into plaster. Thus reducing porosity. But in an old pre 1940 building, how is that a good thing? Pva, surely, diluted or not is not breathable
This is a skilled job. Ive just tried Blown vinyl ceiling paper and ended up having to cut each length into three. You make it look so easy. How long do you soak your paper for. It seemed that the solvate recommended 8 minutes was too long?
Liked & Subscribed. I am a first timer using wallpaper to do a 3x6m ceiling. No windows. Would you recommend I lay it in 3m lengths but have more joints or do 6m lenghts and have half the joints. I'm worried 6m lengths of wallpaper might make it more difficult for a first timer?
Something that isn't mentioned in this video, if you're using a ceiling wallpaper that has a stipple effect such as Superfresco then you overlap the ceiling wallpaper onto the wall, when you wallpaper the wall, it causes a lump to appear along the top of the wallpaper. This must be caused by the stipple effect of the ceiling wallpaper because in rooms that have ceiling wallpaper with no stipple effect I've not seen a lump along the top of the wallpaper. The only way to avoid this it seems is either to not use a ceiling wallpaper that has a stipple effect or have no overlap onto the wall.
Not really thought about it something I may look into in the future. It's nice to be able to pass on the knowledge that I've picked up from all the great tradesmen over the years.
Hi, my boyfriend and I did my ceiling yesterday, we got the paper up ( paste on the back👍🏾 though he pasted the glue all over the front of the paper😱 ( I wasn’t so sure) - I want to now paint the ceiling with white emulsion will it be ok?
If you have paste on the front of the paper, you will have to wash it off using warm soapy water. Wet an area and allow to it to react with the paste, then wipe off. If you emulsion and some paste reacts then just scrub in the area with the paint. Thanks.
@@PaintingandDecorating humm...not fully clear from your reply 🙏. option: Wipe it off. I've just looked at it dry and it looks reasonable.. Are you sure I cant just put emulsion coat on it? 🙏
@@mcgraw8098 Some papers are too thin to cut with a blade and you end up tearing the paper, also the wall can be uneven and again you get pockets where the paper doesn't sit tight to the wall resulting in tears in Both senses of the word lol! a sharp pair of shears (scissors) will cut through lining paper without actually having to cut it too much and it isn't that much quicker if at all to use a blade. You also have more control with shears. I'd use blades on vinyls but lining paper would always be cut with shears
No, not easy at all there never in the same place always in a different spot in the width of the paper. This video shows you just that --- th-cam.com/video/Id5a0kR65eg/w-d-xo.html
Diluted PVA will do the same but not everyone agrees on this. We use it all the time and used correctly no problems. We have a video called What you need to know about PVA
It's wrong to follow the edge of the ceiling. So you mark a line and the line may as well be straight. This also makes sure you're not messing with a wedge on the last length of paper.
Here for tips after arrogantly thinking “piece of p”ss this” and slipping on my arse on a rouge off cut of pasted paper ending up some way under the ladders wearing the ceiling paper 😂
Sorry to hear that... one thing can be said it's a dangerous job at times. Safety can be under estimated so best to be over cautious at all times. Using sharp tools and liquids something will happen unless you are hyper cautious.
SuperPhilcool You can if you want but this is a cheaper way. My dad used a chalk line and different colours of chalk depending on the colour of the surface. But I found it a lot easier this way and no need to buy chalk you still need to pin the string up, but a few pencil marks is enough for me.
Stonka you not done much papering or you would know, follow the line and sometimes with paper being wet and bending it's easier and more accurate to do it shown in the video and not full cuts. Have only being papering for over 30 years.
Done quite a bit as it happens coming up 20 years myself and my teacher is still going after 50! It's not really an issue when lining I know but I prefer a full cut especially with finishing paper, you can follow the line when nibbling at it but you'll never get a true line imo, each to their own though I suppose! I'm not knocking your work it's good to see a proper dec slinging in b&b for a change I've subbed👍
Stonka thanks, I was taught not to use the full length of the scissors as your cut will not follow the line fine enough as paper bends and not to close the scissors fully because they can leave a funny tear at the tip.
Pre-pasted paper? Doesn't show folding process. Not that helpful to me. I have a pattern to "match up...faux tin ceiling look. I think I will need a helper.
Total load of bollocks ,the moment you mentioned PVA i thought here we go another one .No need for pva as it creates a barrier between the plaster and water based paste and the paper will slip and not bond right . Always run the paper the shortest width across the ceiling so you get 3 lengths to a roll ,no need to work away from the light .Also no need for a pencil line either and no need for the spare roll to hold it ,do it free hand off the wall edge and if it runs out just adjust back till it runs in for an overlap on the wall .in 40 years paper hanging i have done thousands of ceiling ,s in every type of property going including heavy blown vinyl whites at 30 ft long per run . 1400 and 1700 grade are the best for ceilings with a smear of fine filler through the joints and two coats of a vinyl silk paint . Never put matt finish on fresh lining paper or blown vinyls and even the older papers as the joints when drying will crack ,use a silk as a first coat then a matt finish .
Armed with nothing more than a plank, two pairs of steps and a couple of your videos, today I successfully papered my first ceiling. Thanks for sharing :-)
What about the paste, brush and scissors? And did you go to the folding video?
Thank you so much for all of your tutorials. They are so informative and clear.
I've done my own decorating for many years now, although still learning.
After watching this video 2 or 3 times, I followed your method with same grade lining paper and applied to my ceiling with successful results.
The tip with the rolled up piece is genius! Probably just saved my marriage! Just about to lose it. Thank you
Glad I could help.
Ha, ha. Nice one
@@PaintingandDecorating Can you come round and sort out my Mrs?
Martin D A 😂🤣
🤣🤣 I had a taste of that yesterday with my lover.... I could only 😂 when the heat 🤪 went up. I was exhausted by the end of it🤪
I dont know why anyone wouldn't like this video, thank you.
Thanks
You made it look so easy!
For all that work and cost ;the client may have had some imagination and had you install a paper with a beautiful design. Thank you for the instruction! I was at a quandary as to how to get a long strip up there . Now I know.
Thanks, glad we could help.
Tried this once it's not easy this man knows what his doing get a pro to do it
Thank you.
After watching your video a few times I have put up my lining paper thank you for sharing
Great to watch a craftsman at work. Love the tips and wrinkles. 😀
Lined a few ceilings over the years. As good a video as youll get from a tradesman. Ignore the PVA haters. If used correctly it works 100%. Great work mate. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you.
Thank you so much for posting this video! I watched the entire video thinking "there's no way it's going to work like that for me" but when it came time to wallpaper our bathroom ceiling- everything worked out exactly as you showed it here. I didn't have any extra paper to roll up when we started, so I used a sturdy wrapping paper roll that I cut down to size and it worked like a charm! Wonderful video!
Is he putting the glue on the ceiling or on the paper,
Did he apply glue on the celling first, or this is self adhesive wallpaper?!!! Need to do the bathroom ceiling , if someone can advice what king of wallpaper to look for...thanks from advance!
Excellent video. I used the middle cardboard roll from a wide roll of cooking foil as a crook as it was stiffer than rolled up piece of spare paper.
That was brilliant...I just went through about 5 or six other videos until I found this. Either they were awful video and audio or badly presented or just generally useless.
Thanks for a great presentation. Really very nice - Right I'll get started....
Your welcome
when it looks easy you know you are watching a pro
Thank you..
I love your work !!! You guys are going to go big with over 100000 viewers. Good for you.
Thank you.
Me and the Mrs are papering our bedroom bay window ceiling today. I can feel a row coming on.
Nice watching an expert at work!
Thank you.
I'm doing this at college this week and you make look easy
Thank you
Wow man you make this look so easy! Very helpful video thank you, although I’ll be doing my own ceilings which look at least twice the height of that room! 😩
Thanks.. be very careful.. one fall game over.. watch or videos on working on planks...
Nice to see a proper tradesman 👍
Thank you.
Beautiful. I'm about to do a black Gator print in an office.
How did you know your line was straight with the string?
I understand now; disregard my confusion because I can see what you mean now brother. This video is your best
Excellent. Thank you.
At college , they learn you to paper a ceiling, need strengt, , I learnt from a top assessor, One the best trades decorating!!! College is a wonderful place
excellent! made it look so easy
Thank you.
What was the timer for… when it went off you said the paper is ready? Thanks
8 minutes.... Thanks
Hi if you have a sloping ceiling at the window end, with a dorma window. The slop is not quite true. Would you recommend hanging lining paper ready for emulsion across the window or from the window?
It's difficult to say without looking but you can line either way. It's all about nice joints. Thanks
Hi, thanks! What kind of plank are you using? Scaffold? Thickness?
They are old scaffold boards with no metal on the ends. Not the really fat ones. Thanks
Hello I like your videos very informative, iAm asked to paper a ceiling and the finish is gloss paint , what can I put on the ceiling so the paper can adhere to it, if any thing,in the old days they put finishing plaster in with the glue size, haven’t seen that in years, thanks
I want to use a textured paper on a ceiling with edges where I don't have to match a pattern. I'm trying to hide some cracks. Any recommendations.
Superfresco do some textured zero match papers. Also wall doctor possibly better if you have cracks. thanks
from an novice noob, great job, big help, thx
Thank you.
Amazing doing this alone.
Thanks.
Can you show the folding technique of your wall paper before you get up on the ceiling? . Im also doing this by myself.
I have used a long handled brush but you still need a raised platform to walk on, no mention of that here. I had to piece mine. moving across from one small set of steps to another whilst holding the brush !!
It would have been helpful to see how he folded the paper on the wall "demonstrated", and there are better ways to cut it if you are on the wall, but there are other videos on the topic. 🙂
Can someone tell me what is the point of doing this? To make the ceiling smooth or eliminate any imperfections? Provide support to underlying plaster ceiling?
Please can this be done on pvc ceiling ?
Possible.. score the surface and use a strong ready mixed wallpaper adhesive.. thanks
As an absolute noob this leaves so many questions for me. I appreciate anyone who takes the time out of their day to be helpful, but I'm just left with so many questions. Are you on stilts? Can this be done without them? Exactly how did you prep the ceiling? A quick, sped up portion showing that would have been cool. I do realize this vid is a couple of years old now, I hope any more you have done are a bit more informative.
He's using two pairs of step ladders and a plank (as a makeshift platform). So yes you can do it without stilts, you just need said items.
As for prep. Just make sure all bits of paper are stripped, good sand on what's needed, fill, caulk any cracks, gaps etc. Another sand down.
He also rolled the ceiling with pva glue which does help the paper stick but if you can't get any...just use paste!!
Hope that helps 👍
Thank you :)
You're welcome 👍👍
A little late with the comment but was you on scaffold boards and step ladders?
Yes.
Curious why the coat of pva?
@@huskamania PVA is a glue and diluted it soakes into the plaster. And helps reduce the porosity of the plaster.
The paper sticks better. Thanks
@@PaintingandDecorating yes, thank you. I know what pva glue is. And I understand, diluted it will soak into plaster. Thus reducing porosity. But in an old pre 1940 building, how is that a good thing? Pva, surely, diluted or not is not breathable
Very good video mate, im going to try this method tomorrow. Cheers pal, you got a sub from me.
Thank you.
Fantastic video thanks I tried many times to hang the paper after an hour two ripped rolls I got it right thank you now on my second bedroom 👍
Your welcome
This is a skilled job. Ive just tried Blown vinyl ceiling paper and ended up having to cut each length into three. You make it look so easy. How long do you soak your paper for. It seemed that the solvate recommended 8 minutes was too long?
Thank you, every paper can be different. Usually soaking time is on the wallpaper instructions.
Liked & Subscribed. I am a first timer using wallpaper to do a 3x6m ceiling. No windows. Would you recommend I lay it in 3m lengths but have more joints or do 6m lenghts and have half the joints. I'm worried 6m lengths of wallpaper might make it more difficult for a first timer?
Won't matter really if you get the joints wrong and they show. .all that counts is no joints showing on finish. Thanks
I would really like to try this but if I miss it up it's going to look really silly
Just take your time and one length at a time. Practice with some lining paper.
But what are you walking on?
check this video The Plank th-cam.com/video/ldqpuCuDdiQ/w-d-xo.html
Something that isn't mentioned in this video, if you're using a ceiling wallpaper that has a stipple effect such as Superfresco then you overlap the ceiling wallpaper onto the wall, when you wallpaper the wall, it causes a lump to appear along the top of the wallpaper.
This must be caused by the stipple effect of the ceiling wallpaper because in rooms that have ceiling wallpaper with no stipple effect I've not seen a lump along the top of the wallpaper. The only way to avoid this it seems is either to not use a ceiling wallpaper that has a stipple effect or have no overlap onto the wall.
You do have to adjust with different papers... leave just a couple of mm and that should bot show. but your are wright with a lump showing.
Great job presenting , thank you I need to hang tomorrow on a ceiling!
Good demonstration!!!
Thanks.
Have you thought of going into teaching at college?
Not really thought about it something I may look into in the future. It's nice to be able to pass on the knowledge that I've picked up from all the great tradesmen over the years.
You can see you are time served, where are you in the country, we have some good contacts in the teaching industry
Thanks am in the north west Wigan.
I've seen it interesting.Awesome!
I do the same thing in Korea.
I want to watch a good video next time. :-)
김영희 Thanks, will be doing more videos on papering ceilings.
You see before this I was using that tried and tested British method of 17 sticks 5 brooms and a staple gun.
Is this paper pre adhesived ?
No. I mixed up some solvite wallpaper adhesive. Thanks
What kinds of wallpaper do you install?
Lee Michael All types.
glue lining paper in horizontal or vertical , is this important or ...?
Horizontally is best less joints and if you ever paper over it the joints will not line up. Thanks
Hi, my boyfriend and I did my ceiling yesterday, we got the paper up ( paste on the back👍🏾 though he pasted the glue all over the
front of the paper😱 ( I wasn’t so sure) - I want to now paint the ceiling with white emulsion will it be ok?
If you have paste on the front of the paper, you will have to wash it off using warm soapy water. Wet an area and allow to it to react with the paste, then wipe off. If you emulsion and some paste reacts then just scrub in the area with the paint. Thanks.
@@PaintingandDecorating humm...not fully clear from your reply 🙏. option: Wipe it off. I've just looked at it dry and it looks reasonable.. Are you sure I cant just put emulsion coat on it? 🙏
If you have paste on the front of your paper, and you apply emulsion it will react with the paste causing problems.
Should I apply paint after it dries or can i leave it unpainted ? Thank you
Most ceiling papers require painting to seal the surface and always look better. Thanks
Agreed he makes hard collar look easy !!
Could i just clarify, did you apply glue to the ceiling and not the paper.
Pasted the paper first this is a video showing ------ th-cam.com/video/N6FpXpq4kc4/w-d-xo.html
You can tell he’s a pro, look at the speed of that haha
Thanks very much.
Have u tried using knives to cut the paper?
Yes but it's cheaper way to use your scissors and not to buy snap blades all the time . Plus it's the correct way old school.
Painting and Decorating time moves on, that's like a joiner choosing to use a screw driver over a drill .
@@mcgraw8098 Some papers are too thin to cut with a blade and you end up tearing the paper, also the wall can be uneven and again you get pockets where the paper doesn't sit tight to the wall resulting in tears in Both senses of the word lol! a sharp pair of shears (scissors) will cut through lining paper without actually having to cut it too much and it isn't that much quicker if at all to use a blade. You also have more control with shears. I'd use blades on vinyls but lining paper would always be cut with shears
Dang i had such a hard tine today with my 1st row doing 1 big wable wable piece now i see how to do it
Thanks.
Thank you.
Your welcome..
do you use wallpaper paste or PVA glue I have had no luck with the paper sticking to the ceiling with paste
2:53 I don’t understand brother. To 3:19
wjhjy not show \how u pasted and folded the accordion style
What about the light fitting - not easy
No, not easy at all there never in the same place always in a different spot in the width of the paper.
This video shows you just that --- th-cam.com/video/Id5a0kR65eg/w-d-xo.html
very useful thanks :)
Your welcome.
Awsome mate
Thanks.
You didn't demonstrate going around the light fitting...
Will be more videos to come. And the will be more about papering ceilings will show how to paper round the light.
they sold me a can of sizing, do i need that ????
Diluted PVA will do the same but not everyone agrees on this. We use it all the time and used correctly no problems. We have a video called What you need to know about PVA
Has to be very thin mix. gets absorbed into the plaster to stablise it goes rock hard, takes paste then.
Why does it need to be dead straight if your just painting it, your just creating work for yourself.
It's wrong to follow the edge of the ceiling. So you mark a line and the line may as well be straight. This also makes sure you're not messing with a wedge on the last length of paper.
You will have a wedge at the start or the end. It's easier to have it at the start where you're not messing with two lines but one.
@@Maghanashi You may well have wedges on both!! I would follow the longest length.
If someone started the video at 0:42, they might think "oh wow, why would you hurt your ceiling?" hahaha :)
you go from there to there, then go across from here. once you've gone down, you go up down there and then face it the other way.
6:54 EXCELLENT!!!!!!!
Don’t get the fact the ceiling and walls not being prepped with some pigment🤷🏼♂️
u made that look sooo easy...bet it isn't tho
Thanks
Here for tips after arrogantly thinking “piece of p”ss this” and slipping on my arse on a rouge off cut of pasted paper ending up some way under the ladders wearing the ceiling paper 😂
Sorry to hear that... one thing can be said it's a dangerous job at times. Safety can be under estimated so best to be over cautious at all times. Using sharp tools and liquids something will happen unless you are hyper cautious.
Use chalk string to mark with
SuperPhilcool You can if you want but this is a cheaper way. My dad used a chalk line and different colours of chalk depending on the colour of the surface. But I found it a lot easier this way and no need to buy chalk you still need to pin the string up, but a few pencil marks is enough for me.
EEXXCCEELLEENNTT VVIIDDEEOO!!!!
fkn nice thanks man
you can use a roll of wall paper at the end wall and use it to scribe you pencil mark along the ceiling,,no messing with string !
What ?
you no idea.
Lol. You're a f*cking idiot. Best laugh I've had in ages though
the trouble i have is the paper sticking to the ceiling
Your paste may be too thin or your not applying enough to your paper. Also you may not be sealing your plaster before hanging your paper. Thanks
so the paper was pre glued.. cause you didn't do glue.
Yes, there is another video showing the pasting and folding of the paper.
th-cam.com/video/N6FpXpq4kc4/w-d-xo.html pasting and folding video
Always use the full blade of the scissors so you get a cleaner line (open them right up) don't use half as seen here, good video though 👍
Stonka you not done much papering or you would know, follow the line and sometimes with paper being wet and bending it's easier and more accurate to do it shown in the video and not full cuts. Have only being papering for over 30 years.
Done quite a bit as it happens coming up 20 years myself and my teacher is still going after 50! It's not really an issue when lining I know but I prefer a full cut especially with finishing paper, you can follow the line when nibbling at it but you'll never get a true line imo, each to their own though I suppose! I'm not knocking your work it's good to see a proper dec slinging in b&b for a change I've subbed👍
Stonka thanks, I was taught not to use the full length of the scissors as your cut will not follow the line fine enough as paper bends and not to close the scissors fully because they can leave a funny tear at the tip.
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Conveniently, this is not done with a simple stool or ladder. I don’t have whatever he is walking on.
builders plank.. between two step ladders.. thanks ... you can hire a plank and steps..
Just had a customer ask for this I think I'm gonna swerve it ...
String? It looks more like a tow rope🤣. It would have been easier snapping a chalk line
Don't like chalk lines a few pencil marks sorted. But ye that's more like rope i think it was guy rope. Because my string was not long enough..
@@PaintingandDecorating still did the job👍
Pre-pasted paper? Doesn't show folding process. Not that helpful to me. I have a pattern to "match up...faux tin ceiling look. I think I will need a helper.
Paste the paper anyway and fold it job done. 9 out of 10 times I would paste pre-pasted or paste the wall.. wallpaper.
What I'm gon to do is Mahk the ceiling
If your papering a ceiling, your giving someone (Me) a headache 20 years later !
How are u moving along lol trust this had to keep getting off the ladder so this technique didn't work
Lol... walking the plank.
me and the wife do this she holds a broom while i hang it
Total load of bollocks ,the moment you mentioned PVA i thought here we go another one .No need for pva as it creates a barrier between the plaster and water based paste and the paper will slip and not bond right . Always run the paper the shortest width across the ceiling so you get 3 lengths to a roll ,no need to work away from the light .Also no need for a pencil line either and no need for the spare roll to hold it ,do it free hand off the wall edge and if it runs out just adjust back till it runs in for an overlap on the wall .in 40 years paper hanging i have done thousands of ceiling ,s in every type of property going including heavy blown vinyl whites at 30 ft long per run . 1400 and 1700 grade are the best for ceilings with a smear of fine filler through the joints and two coats of a vinyl silk paint . Never put matt finish on fresh lining paper or blown vinyls and even the older papers as the joints when drying will crack ,use a silk as a first coat then a matt finish .
Do a video then Geoff....
very very fast , ,, , ,,
Thanks.
What HORRID looking ceilng and walls! Why the hell are you using a pencil and scissors...Use a straightedge and a razor knife..so silly!
Why are you using scissors and not a sharp knife?