Over many years I have done a lot of decorating and I'm not to proud to say that having watched this I could have done it better if I had watched this sooner, great tips and well presented.
Very useful video. I had a crap painter do my livingroom walls. Basically he didn't fill the gaps before doing a final coat. How many coats can the lining paper take, is there a limit? Thanks for your help
Always enjoy watching, 38 years decorating and i am not too old to learn new tricks, expanding foam for one. I always use ready mixed paste for lining now, never a problem. It used to be solvite, then solvite with PVA, now tub paste. Keep up the good work.
hi there another great vid... my lining paper already as filler between the joints but not a good job :( can i part the joints as you did and scrap out the old filler. then do as you did with hard stop ? thanks
We have used the tips you mention in the video to correct some problems, great that the hints and tips work very well and helped us to sort out some very bad problems leaving a very good finished refurb. Many thanks for sharing.
Beautiful mate. I miss working! Love how you use a specialist glue for a loose bit, then just some paint later on - it's all about the crafty details. I learnt to cut out any bits of grit under the paper - had a terrible drop once that I had peeled off the wall and re-stuck - loads of grit. What a mess. Will try your hard stop mix. I always use the lightweight acrylic filler for almost everything these days - but it will flash on lining paper. I always do picture rails first because I struggle to cut that lowest edge of them cleanly otherwise! Wonder if anyone ever told you there's an ASMR quality to your vids.. very calming.
Thank you, this is very useful! Quick question, I am moving to a flat which has painted lining paper and I am planning to repaint it with a different colour, is this video still applicable? Any preps I should do before hand? Thanks!
Hi mate, great video. I noticed you re use your scuttles and I’m wondering how you manage to get away with re using for each job without cleaning? Any tips here would be appreciated as I currently use liners but have tried to re use scuttles in the past and then after a few rooms the scuttles ends up peeling on me.
I always have half a dozen in the van. Wipe one out, allow to dry and use another that's dry. They fit one inside another so need only the shelf/floor space of one.
Thanks for the great job. Can I ask a question? Do you let the hard stop dry + sand before the final coat or do you paint over it straight after applying?
Great vid again. Tried this technique for hiding joint lines. I can still see them prior to applying second coat of paint, is this normal? Or Will the next two coats of paint hide them?
I’ve made the mistake of hanging the paper horizontal then filling. It cracks when the room heats up. If you hang it vertically the joints butt up better. Cross lining for painting is really hanging the paper horizontal then hanging another layer of paper vertically.
@@terrywalsh8355 But don’t you then have more paper joins that way?. If I hang horizontally only one join to deal with. If I was to hang vertically would have multiple joins?
Hi I love your videos, my dad taught me how to paint and he sadly passed away. I've taken over his company (one man band!) But the current job I am doing, the lining paper has blown and they don't have the budget to strip the paper and line it again...should I cut these bubbles out and then splay it off with filler? Thanks in advance
@@jackoconnor3812 Thank you... Sometimes you can remove the bubble or blown area seal using B.I.N. primer then sand prime again if needed.. emulsion ... if visible use a hard stop filler (paint mixed with pollyfilla) light sand then emulsion.. thanks hope that helps
@@PaintingandDecorating thank you, your videos has helped a lot with the tips you give. What I like most is how you explain each tip you give and why you recommend doing it, thanks again 👍
been asked to do a repaint on lining paper, can i get away with trade emulsion through an hvlp sprayer....? ive only put johnstones quick dry through it before which is pretty thick but i dont want to risk putting too much moisture onto the wall and having the paper bubble up.
You add water to the first coat because the paint soaks in to the new paper which sometimes causes an orange peel effect. Yes you cut it in on the second coat.
@@PaintingandDecorating At 38 I decided to change career paths and I'm now just finishing up my second yr 6707 diploma and your vids have been a great help...thx mate!!
My house is old from 1930s the plaster has lost of hairline cracks to many to rack out and fill I've had to rooms reskimed so far but it's expensive so instead of reskim would it be better and cheaper to use lining paper?.
Should never skim over old plaster that is full of hairline cracks ,tap the wall with your knuckle if it sounds hollow you should knock back to bare brick and replasterboard ,at a push to save money you should try wall rock fibre liner a little more expense than lining paper but very strong but like any decorating it's only as good as your prep social and sand a couple of times first then pva
Help me out gents..... ASMR??? Top tips as usual. Haven't gotten around to the hard stop yet. Why do you not use a flat roller tray? First rate bruv. Best Dave
ASMR a feeling of well-being combined with a tingling sensation in the scalp and down the back of the neck, as experienced by some people in response to a specific gentle stimulus, often a particular sound. You can stand on a flat roller try and tip it up. Thanks.
Question..If you apply the paste to the paper. Will that cause it too expand on the wall and overlap as it weren't pasted enough in the first instance? Thanks
Sounds like you have not read your instructions.. I had taken it for granted you had allowed it to soak... that being you have used normal lining paper... some lining papers need time to soak... higher the grade longer the soak.
@@PaintingandDecorating I used 1700 grade, And allowed to soak between 8 and 10 minutes. As you mentioned, I belived i had some overlapps due to the wall not being flat at as you mentioned. If i get dry areas and paste whilst on the wall, could it cause the seam to overlapp?
Wallpaper paste back in the 1980s wasn't that bad. I never used to have edges lift. For lining paper which is never likely to want removing if you do it properly, I add 10% PVA. I have far fewer problems with that mix.
I wall ask you about this issues. firso of all sorry about my English, i´m Antonio form Portugal. I have some walls (drywall) with liningpaper. I have paint the first wall and after painting appears bubbles , just after painting. Is this normal ? will disappear after drying ?.....?!?!, thanks
I had trouble sleeping ...real bad insomnia ..then i listened to this guy ....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! boom
I’ve don a first coat and had one bit that had a slight crack in joint , did the hard stop with paint , let it dry , gave a slight rub down , then painted my second coat , but now I’ve got more joint cracks appearing, what am I doing wrong … thanks in advance
Bit late to see this video, but u do it totally different to me,cross linning doesn't hide the seams,and them lifting shunt be happening,once walls are fully prepped size the walls leave to dry,drop hang the paper like normal finish paper using ready mixed glue no seam lift at all,leave 2mm gap in seams leave paper to dry,paint walls in white ,like a mist coat,fill 2mm gap in seams then sand,paint white over sandeď filler, walls done perfectly and ready for top coats in the chosen colour
My go to lining paper is always 1200 grade as opposed to your 1000 sir! I always line vertically when I’m painting it and I find the joints never split! Also lining vertically avoids the paint sitting on any dodgy joints and opening them up if you’ve lined horizontally.Works for me.
I change the grade depending on how smooth the wall is. I had a roll of 1000 grade so I used that. Possibly would of used 1200 on this wall if it was not lock down.
Absolutely . 37 years as a apprentice trained dec, and never once had to fill any joints after lining . 1200 grade is my choice too. Anything thicker starts getting like ‘cardboard ‘. Also, I find vertical hanging best, regardless of what I was taught at tech !!. Everyone has there own technique .
i've had an absolute nightmare with decorators i've ended up using your videos to try and salvage and fix their work off of your videos. I'm in liverpool if you ever fancy helping i will pay all costs to come haha.
I've seen many slow painters in my time but this man is the slowest. So much time spent on cutting in and so much excessive and unnecessary brushwork and roller useage. How long did that first wall take to cut in and Roll? 'd not like to pay him on T and M.
What a bodger,obviously not enough paste on the edges of the lining paper,it would of been helpful to use a roller on the joints but then peels back an unstuck joint and then sticks it back down with emulsion paint,if this is the work of a so called time served qualified painter he needs to seek further training.
@@PaintingandDecorating 5year apprenticeship served gaining city and guilds basic and advanced certificates,specialist finishing training including marbling and graining,I think gives me enough experience to comment on the standard of your work.
Over many years I have done a lot of decorating and I'm not to proud to say that having watched this I could have done it better if I had watched this sooner, great tips and well presented.
Very useful video. I had a crap painter do my livingroom walls. Basically he didn't fill the gaps before doing a final coat. How many coats can the lining paper take, is there a limit? Thanks for your help
Always enjoy watching, 38 years decorating and i am not too old to learn new tricks, expanding foam for one. I always use ready mixed paste for lining now, never a problem. It used to be solvite, then solvite with PVA, now tub paste. Keep up the good work.
4.20 am and I'm literally watching paint dry....
And enjoying it!!!
Strange times.
Sometimes the most simple things in life are the most satisfying.
Can't beat watching a Craftsman at work
Cheers mate
hi there another great vid... my lining paper already as filler between the joints but not a good job :( can i part the joints as you did and scrap out the old filler. then do as you did with hard stop ? thanks
Grt vid but does it make a difference about vertical or hoizontal hanging of lining paper if only painting it pls?
We have used the tips you mention in the video to correct some problems, great that the hints and tips work very well and helped us to sort out some very bad problems leaving a very good finished refurb. Many thanks for sharing.
Thank you glad we can help.
Beautiful mate. I miss working! Love how you use a specialist glue for a loose bit, then just some paint later on - it's all about the crafty details. I learnt to cut out any bits of grit under the paper - had a terrible drop once that I had peeled off the wall and re-stuck - loads of grit. What a mess. Will try your hard stop mix. I always use the lightweight acrylic filler for almost everything these days - but it will flash on lining paper. I always do picture rails first because I struggle to cut that lowest edge of them cleanly otherwise!
Wonder if anyone ever told you there's an ASMR quality to your vids.. very calming.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it and people have mentioned the ASMR before.
Brilliant again - I'm going to tackle my first attempt at lining paper on my walls - Can you recommend quality scissors for me? Thanks again.
Thanks.. Dulux or Crown or your local decorating center... They will have some good scissors..
Thank you, this is very useful! Quick question, I am moving to a flat which has painted lining paper and I am planning to repaint it with a different colour, is this video still applicable? Any preps I should do before hand? Thanks!
Wipe with damp cloth maybe a light sand .. and should be fine.. thanks
@@PaintingandDecorating thank you ;)
Will the lining paper bubble after painting.
Great video guide and tips.
Hope to be able to follow it through on my own project .
Thank you..
Hi mate, great video. I noticed you re use your scuttles and I’m wondering how you manage to get away with re using for each job without cleaning? Any tips here would be appreciated as I currently use liners but have tried to re use scuttles in the past and then after a few rooms the scuttles ends up peeling on me.
How do you estimate job like that?
Did you make / lose money?)
Time and material ? 🤔
I always have half a dozen in the van. Wipe one out, allow to dry and use another that's dry. They fit one inside another so need only the shelf/floor space of one.
Thanks for the great job. Can I ask a question?
Do you let the hard stop dry + sand before the final coat or do you paint over it straight after applying?
Is it better to use lining paper or to get the wall replastered?
Hi. Wondering if/does the wall sweat behind this lining paper stuff as no airflow?
Thanks.
Very nice job mate, love the filling paint mix too nice one
Great vid again. Tried this technique for hiding joint lines. I can still see them prior to applying second coat of paint, is this normal? Or Will the next two coats of paint hide them?
Thanks. and no that is not normal hope you sort it.
Not enough filler or too thin?
@@marcusdurkie8696 too thin maybe try giving them another fill. Thanks
I’ve made the mistake of hanging the paper horizontal then filling. It cracks when the room heats up. If you hang it vertically the joints butt up better. Cross lining for painting is really hanging the paper horizontal then hanging another layer of paper vertically.
@@terrywalsh8355
But don’t you then have more paper joins that way?. If I hang horizontally only one join to deal with. If I was to hang vertically would have multiple joins?
Hi I love your videos, my dad taught me how to paint and he sadly passed away. I've taken over his company (one man band!) But the current job I am doing, the lining paper has blown and they don't have the budget to strip the paper and line it again...should I cut these bubbles out and then splay it off with filler? Thanks in advance
Also, would I have to seal the filler after?
@@jackoconnor3812 Thank you... Sometimes you can remove the bubble or blown area seal using B.I.N. primer then sand prime again if needed.. emulsion ... if visible use a hard stop filler (paint mixed with pollyfilla) light sand then emulsion.. thanks hope that helps
@@PaintingandDecorating thank you so much for the quick reply! I will let you know how I get on :)
Would you recommend the zinnser spray or should I get the 5 litre? I imagine you would recommend the 5 litre but I am trying to save money lol
Also please tell me which hard stop filler I should buy? Sorry for bombarding you with comments
Do you have to use thined coat on lining paper or can you just put the desired paint ?
Sometimes better to thin the first coat a little.. all depends on how thick your paint looks. thanks
@@PaintingandDecorating thank you, your videos has helped a lot with the tips you give. What I like most is how you explain each tip you give and why you recommend doing it, thanks again 👍
Is...is that woodchip on the wall that it's butting up against? 😯 (great job as always)
Yes, stripped one wall just for a demonstration. thanks.
been asked to do a repaint on lining paper, can i get away with trade emulsion through an hvlp sprayer....? ive only put johnstones quick dry through it before which is pretty thick but i dont want to risk putting too much moisture onto the wall and having the paper bubble up.
Great video fantastic job stay safe 🇬🇧👍🏻
Thanks and you.
Great video, I just have a couple of questions. Why do you add water to the first coat and do you cut in again for the second coat of paint. Thanks.
You add water to the first coat because the paint soaks in to the new paper which sometimes causes an orange peel effect. Yes you cut it in on the second coat.
@@terrywalsh8355 Thanks. 👍
Used loads of you little tips to do my living room today ive really improved
Great stuff glad we have helped you.
@@PaintingandDecorating At 38 I decided to change career paths and I'm now just finishing up my second yr 6707 diploma and your vids have been a great help...thx mate!!
@@thedeewolf thank you glad we could help.. plenty more videos to come..
Is that a mist coat your making for first coat?
My house is old from 1930s the plaster has lost of hairline cracks to many to rack out and fill I've had to rooms reskimed so far but it's expensive so instead of reskim would it be better and cheaper to use lining paper?.
Should never skim over old plaster that is full of hairline cracks ,tap the wall with your knuckle if it sounds hollow you should knock back to bare brick and replasterboard ,at a push to save money you should try wall rock fibre liner a little more expense than lining paper but very strong but like any decorating it's only as good as your prep social and sand a couple of times first then pva
Just a quick question the paint in the filler is that to prevent flashing and does it work for soft sheen and silks aswell
Yes it works with all paints and yes helps stop flashing on the second coat. thanks
Thanks for that iv been fine filling before painting so iv been putting 3 coats on walls to stop flashing great tip sir
@@davidhalliwell1167 your welcome thanks.
Help me out gents..... ASMR??? Top tips as usual. Haven't gotten around to the hard stop yet. Why do you not use a flat roller tray?
First rate bruv.
Best
Dave
ASMR a feeling of well-being combined with a tingling sensation in the scalp and down the back of the neck, as experienced by some people in response to a specific gentle stimulus, often a particular sound. You can stand on a flat roller try and tip it up. Thanks.
Scuttles are far better. Less chance of an accident and holds a lot more paint which avoids constantly topping up a paint tray.
How about doing the colored filler first, do your cut in, and then paint the wall.
What do you do if some of the paper overlaps?
Cheers.
Hi mate dunno if this is cheeky or not but are u able to say what ballpark u priced this job in? Cheets
Is it possible just to leave a 1-2 mil gap on purpose and fill and sand it before/during painting ?
Absolutely! Common practice :)
Question..If you apply the paste to the paper. Will that cause it too expand on the wall and overlap as it weren't pasted enough in the first instance? Thanks
Sounds like you have not read your instructions.. I had taken it for granted you had allowed it to soak... that being you have used normal lining paper... some lining papers need time to soak... higher the grade longer the soak.
@@PaintingandDecorating I used 1700 grade, And allowed to soak between 8 and 10 minutes. As you mentioned, I belived i had some overlapps due to the wall not being flat at as you mentioned. If i get dry areas and paste whilst on the wall, could it cause the seam to overlapp?
Wallpaper paste back in the 1980s wasn't that bad. I never used to have edges lift. For lining paper which is never likely to want removing if you do it properly, I add 10% PVA. I have far fewer problems with that mix.
bingo. nobody ever mentions PVA when linning. great comment.
Do you add the Pva in to the paste when you are mixing it?
can you use vinyl silk on lining paper ?
Yes no problem... thanks
I wall ask you about this issues. firso of all sorry about my English, i´m Antonio form Portugal. I have some walls (drywall) with liningpaper. I have paint the first wall and after painting appears bubbles , just after painting. Is this normal ? will disappear after drying ?.....?!?!, thanks
I had trouble sleeping ...real bad insomnia ..then i listened to this guy ....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! boom
I know this is four years old now, but thank you. Great video. Painting my lining papered walls tomorrow with a lot more confidence now. ❤
You're welcome 😁 thanks 👍
Simplistic wee job carried out to perfection as always. great video mate. 👍🏻👍🏻 keep well. 👍🏻
Thanks.
I’ve don a first coat and had one bit that had a slight crack in joint , did the hard stop with paint , let it dry , gave a slight rub down , then painted my second coat , but now I’ve got more joint cracks appearing, what am I doing wrong … thanks in advance
With cold walls it takes longer for things to dry... if you don't allow each step to dry fully then cracks appear. Thanks
@@PaintingandDecorating thanks , I had let things dry , but I still get the problem , is border adhesive stronger than wall paper adhesive.
Love that filler mixed with paint tip!!
Thank you.
how much cheaper is it to reline rather reskim walls?
Not the same thing at all.. thanks
Noticed that you used Leyland paint is it a good paint because there are lots of mixed reviews !
It's okay for light traffic areas not a bad paint at all. Thanks
Great video thanks
thank you
PLEASE CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT ROLLER SLEEVE YOU ARE USING THANKS 👍😁
Thanks for the detailed video! Very useful 👍🏼
perfection as usual from you 👌👏👏
Thank you
Bit late to see this video, but u do it totally different to me,cross linning doesn't hide the seams,and them lifting shunt be happening,once walls are fully prepped size the walls leave to dry,drop hang the paper like normal finish paper using ready mixed glue no seam lift at all,leave 2mm gap in seams leave paper to dry,paint walls in white ,like a mist coat,fill 2mm gap in seams then sand,paint white over sandeď filler, walls done perfectly and ready for top coats in the chosen colour
The filler mixed with paint tip is top!
Wouldnt a thin skim coat have been better on that wall with so many imperfections and not being flat? I suppose its what the customer wanted?
Can pva be used as substitute for border adhesive
You can at a push.... hard to work with... better to use border adhesive. Thanks
Filler mixed with paint, well I never, have also been wanting a water base gloss to try so gonna try this one
Thanks only thing with water based is its not hard wearing.
what if the underlying wallpaper has crakcs in it?
Great lesson learned
Great stuff.
Thank you
My go to lining paper is always 1200 grade as opposed to your 1000 sir! I always line vertically when I’m painting it and I find the joints never split! Also lining vertically avoids the paint sitting on any dodgy joints and opening them up if you’ve lined horizontally.Works for me.
I change the grade depending on how smooth the wall is. I had a roll of 1000 grade so I used that.
Possibly would of used 1200 on this wall if it was not lock down.
Absolutely my friend! Getting materials just now is a nightmare! I waited 10 days for a home delivery of 5lts of varnish!
Absolutely . 37 years as a apprentice trained dec, and never once had to fill any joints after lining . 1200 grade is my choice too. Anything thicker starts getting like ‘cardboard ‘. Also, I find vertical hanging best, regardless of what I was taught at tech !!. Everyone has there own technique .
Perfect as normal
Some great advice thank you
Thanks.
Good job bro
Thanks
where abouts do you operate?
i've had an absolute nightmare with decorators i've ended up using your videos to try and salvage and fix their work off of your videos. I'm in liverpool if you ever fancy helping i will pay all costs to come haha.
Don’t understand why you haven’t prepared all your woodwork before anything else?
The wood work has been prepared on other videos before this.
😎
I will use the filler tip for sure 👍
You don't have an apprentice working with you?
If you are based in Manchester can I hire you please
Really sorry our customer base is too large.. thanks for asking hope you find someone good.
40 mins long! 😳
Thanks
thanks for the filler tip.
I've seen many slow painters in my time but this man is the slowest. So much time spent on cutting in and so much excessive and unnecessary brushwork and roller useage. How long did that first wall take to cut in and Roll? 'd not like to pay him on T and M.
Poxy lifting edges, nothing more irritating.
What a bodger,obviously not enough paste on the edges of the lining paper,it would of been helpful to use a roller on the joints but then peels back an unstuck joint and then sticks it back down with emulsion paint,if this is the work of a so called time served qualified painter he needs to seek further training.
Lol. You've not done enough work with real tradesmen.
I would be surprised if you've even been to college.. your comments are getting more hilarious.
@@PaintingandDecorating 5year apprenticeship served gaining city and guilds basic and advanced certificates,specialist finishing training including marbling and graining,I think gives me enough experience to comment on the standard of your work.
@@barrysmith5466 so you seam to be a little behind me... a lot to learn.
@@barrysmith5466 interesting to see you say 5 years... because the rest of us do 3 years... may be your not from the UK.. which explains a lot.