Will NATO Deploy to Ukraine?
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- French President french president Emmanuel Macron said he wouldn't rule out sending French troops to Ukraine and that other NATO countries had discussed the possiblity of sending non combat troops to support Ukraine in country. What does that mean? What was Russian President Vladamir Putin's response?
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It is not about testing Russias response, it was about testing the response of the french electorate and their European allies.
Your point is highly improbable because:
1: Macron had no need to test the European allies because that test has already been carried out by the secretary general of NATO about 10 months ago (apologies, my photographic memory flutters on and off...more off than on but you can google it if you missed that event);
2: the French electorate's reaction is one of the most predictable in the world and has been since the last head tumbled in the wicker basket so we are talking about a very long time.
So Macron (or whoever) already had high expected values for both 1 and 2 but no expected value for Putin.
@@OnlineSafety-ng7et what a load of poppycock. About as mealy mouthed as Macron.
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 🤣😂🤣 It may read like that but it's true!!!
They aren't combat troops they're "advisors," very, very, assertive (and well-armed) advisors. Totally not combat troops.
MACV: Lol
I mean scholz has revealed that there are already soldiers of France and England there operating artillery and rocket systems such as cruise missiles
Yes, it's not an "Invasion", it's "peacekeeping", very (aggressive) peacekeeping
But I doubt if Russian artillery, rockets and bomb will distinguish between French combat troops and "advisors" 🙂
Thats ok because it is not a war.
Its just a simple special military operation.
See...👍
A non-combatant soldier is an oxymoron. All soldiers by definition are combatants.
If your in a uniform and in a foreign contested land you are a legal target.
@@BeardedGuy_Tawhid
You are correct. However, a uniform is not a prerequisite.
Even if it is true, it justified nothing, none of what you are doing.
@@dumboi5369
Yeah, a nation just can't send its soldiers and declare them to non-combatants. That ludicrous.
It actually happened to Japan after desert storm.
They dispatched "soldiers" to engage in humanitarian work. However, they were "protected" by british forces.
Putin threatened tactical nuclear action when the West stated that weapons and aid were being sent to Ukraine two years ago. His claims that if the West sends troops it would mean nuclear war is more empty threats from him. Poland knows this they literally told him stop saying you're going to use tactical nuclear weapons more than several times in six months we're getting bored of it.
Putin threatened to use tactical nukes if NATO provided Ukraine with tanks, HIMARS, missiles, jets etc. Yeah Russia’s threats are worthless.
They aren’t empty. Otherwise NATO would have sent troops in. We both know why they haven’t
@@SchmuelGoldstein-mj8rk He claimed nuclear threat when aid was sent in from the west. Fortunately France understands clearly that Putin won't stop at Ukraine. If Ukraine falls Moldova and Poland are next then with Poland being a member of NATO that means all NATO members will be forced to put boots on the ground. It's war now or war later but Putin has ensured it will be war regardless so I say why wait until Ukraine falls.
@@kjnljlljj Russia could do it and I guarantee NATO wouldn’t retaliate.
My guy has a different channel I didn't know about. Good Stuff.
It's about planting ideas into the public.
Bingo.
Yes, Slovakian Prime Minister Fico (who staunchly opposes military aid to Ukraine) planted the idea before the Paris conference. The question to Macron was probably prompted by that.
_[...] Fico cited a "restricted document" listing topics to be discussed in Paris that "sends shivers down your spine."
"These topics," he said, "imply that a number of NATO and EU member states are considering sending troops to Ukraine on a bilateral basis."_
(Politico. "Slovak PM says EU, NATO members weighing sending troops to Ukraine" February 26, 2024 9:23 pm CET)
"We can't help it that our soldiers decided to do their vacation in ukraine........with all their equipment..........and weapons..........and our logistics."
-russia
Chech republic:"Hey-we somehow found 1 mill. artillery shells.Send us money..."
Me rewatching that movie War dogs when two American potheads "found" AK 47 ammo in Albania 😂😂😂.
Funny… I wonder what the Czech Republic said.
Nice job putting together informative information and making it easily understandable. I don’t think everyone understands the scale of this war and the major and historical implications this could have. We shouldn’t wait to pay attention until it’s too late.
If Cappy just regurgitating western MSM then he always be wrong.
in 100 years if we are not radioactive sand people will know what the hell is actually happening now and that is so weird to think about.
Never underestimate the human ability to make up alternate historical facts to suit their own culture as per whoever is in charge wants it told.
If it goes nuclear a hundred years from now people will call us gods and we doomed ourselves.
The victors write history, not the losers
War…war never changes
We might be standing on the eve before WW3. Like the men before WW1.
Not knowing that years of butchery are ahead.
Normally, the US has 'played' the role of the 'psychotic mad dog' of NATO but has 'inadvertently' relinquished that role. As a consequence, and with NATO member agreement, Mr. Macron has belatedly assumed that role to incite a reaction and to inject chaos since sometimes it only requires an eyelid flicker of the enemy to gain enough intelligence to work out the next optimum move.
macron is a mad dog
lol since when have stop be mad 🐶?
"Played the role"? LOL.
@@wyldhowl2821 I was being diplomatic. 🤣
Nah, there's still a psychotic old man behind the curtain pulling on the ropes and levers.
Thx for the video.
NATO = No Action Talk Only
lmao i like it.
North Atlantic Terrorist Organization
Tell that to Gaddafi, Bin Ladem and Sadam😂
@momo9594
Some third World countries that also did not have a good connection to Russia.
But Russia is not Simbabwe, if NATO comes they will be welcomed by FAB-1500.
@@momo9594 oh yeah attacking poor unstable countries, NATO bunch of cowards.
NATO = Nice Ass To Offer, and Russia alone will clap it
Great points, interesting. Long time subscriber, never disappointed.
Awesome content, way more informative and better analysis than official media!
Thanks for the update on this war.
Military History Visualized has a video on the full leak (he's native German). The upshot was:
Britain and France are effectively out of Stormshadow and the French version.
The Ukrainian planes were all modified by British personnel (that's the boots on the ground) to fire the missiles and "There were a lot of American accents". This isn't news, we knew that was the case.
The Ukrainian airforce is down to a single digit number of air frames anyway, but the F16s aren't wired to fire the Taurus either so they'd need to be modified by German engineers too.
The total number Germany could send would be no more than 100.
There was an accusation made by a civilian woman that the Taurus didn't work, this ruffled some feathers, apparently it works as advertized.
But the advice from the Luftwaffe was it's not worth it.
Wow, thank you for the comment! And I have a new channel to scope now!
(Cough cough) Austrian
Excellent video and channel!
Single digit numbers of SU-24 only, they didn’t mention other jets and talked about aircrafts that could carry Taurus
@@PvtSchlockyes. The point is, he reads and speaks fluent German as well as English, and follows news in German.
Hi Cappy, I have not looked at the other hundreds of comments but wouldn't the obvious solution be to send NATO troops to the 'not' war but the "special military operation" happening in the Ukraine? Surely Russia couldn't complain as it is not an "Invasion?'
Lmao it would be funny to see two sides of a global conflict gaslighting each other about how it's totally not a war
"It's a police action! It's a police action!"
Yes mate, every time I was overseas with the UN it was always a policing action to avoid paying us more than if it was a conflict.@@samspurgeon4222
"Aye watch yo jet, WATCH YO JET"
I said just that when it happened! Great channel. Always thought out and informing.
Love the format. Nice to have more info.
They’re just on vacation in crimea, nothing to do with their employment as soldiers.
The last time French troops went that far East. Things didn’t turn out too well for the French.
Crimean War was a short term victory for the West and long term victory for Russia. Who do you think controls Crimea right now?
The blatant West or Russia?
1812
They are welcome in Ukraine by ukrainians.
This is honestly a bazaar war where no one on the ground cares about why they are fighting. Only motivation the Russian troops have is that life will suck back home anyways and at least this is something to do. Same thing goes for its nuke deterrence. It seems the Russian attitude is “we arnt afraid to be nuked because life is suffering.” While Finland says “everyone must have a bunker”
@@rtasvadam1776 The point was to prevent the russian extension against the ottoman lands, which was a success.
Thanks for sharing Cappy
Wow, this channel is back
"Always accuse your enemy of what you yourself are guilty of."
Anyone else remembering Korea and Vietnam?
Yep.
Too bad you do not speak french, there are hillarious comments made by the french autorities, in a Le Monde article.
At some point, the french officials are saying that they could sent special forces "on non combat operations", such as vehicle maintenance and such.
And obviously there already are french personnels in Ukraine, as advisors, trainers, intelligence operators etc... You don't ship a SCALP missile in an amazon box with a user manual, you have to send people to help with the deployment of such equipment.
At 15:48 what news or page are you looking at for your news......looks detailed would love to know lol.......
It's been months since you been on this channel. Good to see you back. L.I Strong 💪
In France this "off the cuff" comment has been extremely unpopular, as it would be in any NATO country. Support for direct conflict with Russia is in the teens across NATO countries. His actual comment was at best ambiguous, because the term he used is only associated with combat troops. He did not say support troops or anything else which means he meant actual combat troops. The word crazy in a real literal sense has been universally brought up. Later on, he doubled down and said he carefully weighed his words and explained that in past we said no to missiles and tanks and fight jets, but they all ended up happening. This was also in context to the announcements of some of the German generals who said this war is turning into a West vs Rest of the planet kind of situation.
"in the teens" you mean leftists trans/woke activists and feminists who have no intention of going themselves, because that's about the percentage.
NATOs like "nah we exist to shoot brown kids, not to fight actual wars. Maybe give us a small nation nationalizing a resource and well go wipe out the collectivist minority cultures."
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I dig this format, more real talk, less corny jokes. Love that you're doing these
I like your off-the-cuff delivery on this.
There's A great deal of ignorance (and Ruzzian cope bots) in the comments. Non-combat troops are people who's primary job FOR the military is not direct combat. Cooks, truck mechanics, guys who fix broken guns, people who refuel aircraft, radar operators, communication decrypting. This is contrasted with combat MOS's (military occupational specialties, IE: jobs) like infantry, artillery, pilots of combat aircraft like Apache helicopters, Hornets, and drones, tank and infantry fighting vehicle crews. When I was in the US Marines, every marine is a rifleman first and was trained with a minimum of combat training and weapon familiarity. Every non infantry MOS was sent to Marine Combat Training for 3 weeks, which is a crunched down version of the 8 week course actual infantry went to, after boot camp (basic training) which is uniform for ALL marines. USMC fighting doctrine has focused heavily on attacking logistics of enemy forces, and train all marines so that they aren't utterly helpless if the same strategy is used against them. Not everyone in a combat zone IS trained as auxiliary combatants. Think psyops, clergy, translators, surgeons, etc. Many of these roles within the Navy or Air Force will have literally a handful of hours of familiarity with a sidearm or rifle AT MOST, if at all.
Troops, or service members, aren't necessarily combat capable, but support the overall war effort. Not everyone in the US military is a "soldier", troops serving in the US Army are called soldiers. Troops in the US Marine Corps are called marines. Air Force are airmen, and Navy are sailors. Not every airman have anything to do whatsoever with aircraft, my father was intel communications, my mom was personnel administration, my sister was cryptography, her husband was a satellite image analyst. Not every soldier is infantry, I almost joined the Army as a heavy equipment mechanic, but joined the Marines as a truck mechanic instead. Motor Transport maintenance is the SOLE MOS in the Marines that will NEVER have to get on a ship and deploy amphibiously into combat, which is what the word "marine" means in English with regard to warfighters. Not every sailor will have a job on a waterborne vessel. Any C130 crewmembers or maintainers from the USN will likely never be on a ship, as the SINGLE c130 capable of carrier activity is the USMC's Fat Albert, which is a Blue Angels demonstrator, and I believe is retired, but I'm not certain of that.
The first US servicemen captured by Iraqi forces in desert storm were 2 marine motor t mechanics who got lost trying to go fix a humvee, iirc.
So yes, noncombatants do go to warzones, and their becoming casualties is a known forgone conclusion, but they typically don't present an actual threat themselves. An expert on training for urban combat isn't a threat by himself, but he's an indirect threat because the training he provides to the actual warfighters, same with medics. Their removal is strategic, not tactical, and that's why killing them intentionally with direct gunfire intentionally targeting them when they don't pose an active and immediate threat is illegal. If you're lobbing artillery or dropping bombs, that's one thing, because they are collateral damage. But if you invade a position, and an unarmed person in uniform is not resisting or fleeing, killing them is unnecessary and is flat out murder, and thus a warcrime. If you're in a firefight for 3 days, and your enemy runs out of ammo, and surrenders, and you shoot them in retribution because they shot and killed your favorite mate when they still had ammo, you're a murderer, and any nation of morals will prosecute and punish you for it.
Does anyone even care about war crimes after the Gaza situation happened?
And what about Ukraine, who tortures and kills prisoners of war? or that human rights watch indicated that Ukraine has weapons in kindergartens, schools and hospitals, while hiding behind the civilian population? Or America, who is torturing and killing people in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo? or Wikileaks data where there is a video of an Apache helicopter pilot shooting civilians? but yes, it's different)))
@@djinn666 support hamas? Go hell with hamas xD.
Sending "non-combat" troops" is literally how our involvement in Vietnam got started. How did that work out?
Bros fuckin yappin away like logistics isn’t 90% of war so them being there is literal war fighting weather they shoot a rifle or not. Before you throw the you don’t know what you’re talking about I was a Marine too buddy.
not off the table, is not the same as saying, we will send ground troops. We are talking about a person saying that something might have been talked about. Or maybe not.
Strategic ambiguity. Saying in advance that you will never do something mostly weakens your position, as e.g. you can't then promise it later as an accession at the negotiating table.
2 years I’ve been watching your other channel and never had TH-cam suggest this one.
Having men of experience is immensely valuable. Experience dropping supplies over gaza, experience deploing piers, experience moving supplies… experience supporting Ukraine. Go get that experience. Hone those skills. Cannot make plans that depend on skills we do have.
The UK suddenly got cold feet. Now the French wants to get it on with Russia 😂
Have you seen the funding for the UK military?
@@davidporter7051 Still the 6th highest military spending in the world. We have a smaller volunteer based army because most of our recent wars have been unpopular counter insurgencies.
Large conscripted armies would ruffle too many fathers back home.
But why is Russia's military spending higher then UK's when they can only muster old soviet era rubbish?
I've not seen the "mighty" t-14 in Ukraine. I've seen a BMPT terminator get destroyed but that's about.
@@mikegarvey718 you can try to justify the defense budget all you want. The reduction only deters the UK from taking action. The British Navy does not have the funds to operate their carriers. Fighters are being scrapped Afghanistan and Iraq ended years ago this isn't affecting the present budget. There is war in Europe and the UK is cutting defense spending.
UK will do whatever their pay master in America say, same with all of Europe unfortunately. America removed Europes teeth after ww2 and see the continent as a buffer zone for themselves.
French want to wave white flags in celebration again!
I am from Europe, Croatia (ex-Yugoslavia).
Here is my take on this: I believe Polish Intelligence is 100% right, Putin will not stop the war until he reaches the territory he thinks Russia "needs to have" to secure its western flank.
In short, that is the space from northern Carpathian Mountains up to the Baltic Sea. For many reasons that I won`t get into now, he thinks the current land border of Russia (border with Ukraine) is militarily undefendable for long term. If you see the history, you kind of get the idea, with Nazis almost surrounding Moscow, which was de facto saved only by bad winter weather and streched German logistics, to the Napoleon being able to even conquer Moscow for some time (Russians later managed to get it back while fighting from the surrounding forests).
So this is the real deal here, it is actually not about Ukraine at all. They are just "in the way", and that is what even Alexandr Dugin publicly said.
And he is the kind of person who openly says things that Putin just can`t.
And here is the problem: If Russia manages to conquer all of that territory by force, what makes anyone think they are going to stop there?
Let us remember how the Cold War started, Russian army refused to go back to its borders after reaching Berlin and had plans to reach Portugal in 14 days(!!).
Hitler and Nazis also did not stop until the were defeated at the Battlefield.
So, this is what is happening in Europe now. As lot of people have put it bluntly: it is 1930`s moment again.
Of course Europe can`t just wait and do nothing. All options must again be on the table, same as they were in the cold war, including full nuclear deterrence of Russia.
In putin mind if Ukraine fall in 3 day from 2year ago he could conquered whole EU within week xD.
Sure, And you Croats will join anti Russian coalition as you did with Hitler And will get The same lecture as in ww2!
I think you’re on point brother.
We are considering "military advisors" in a special operation in Ukraine for humanitarian purposes.
I don't understand why the jump to considering boots on the ground if they didn't even exhaust the weapons delivery option which is by fast the best option. They just stopped sending hardware and wanna start sending people? Doesn't make sense!
They didn’t stop sending hardware, they are still actively sending hardware, forming Ukrainian troops,etc.
Only the USA stopped sending aid to Ukraine.
You can blame the stoppage on the republicans in congress who love Putin. Republicans reading this. If Russian wins right now it is YOUR FAULT. Start taking some responsibility like you are always crowing about endlessly with everyone other than yourselves.
Scholz is simply not telling the truth about the Taurus, and as we learned from the espionage leak, the head of the German Air Force is also saying that no German soldiers are needed in Ukraine to be able to use the Taurus.
This statement from Scholz is simply a great shame
there isn't enough German Army to defend the country... Germany may be a Defense Industrial power, but when it comes to Armed Forces is pretty weak... so it's not matter of will... they just can't!... they depend on article 5 and US troops on the ground... that's why nobody asked them!
They actually said that they would need people in the country to operate them, the only thing they said about German was that they could maybe use british troops instead
"German Air Force is also saying that no German soldiers are needed in Ukraine to be able to use the Taurus."
Which means they will program from the border of a country next to Ukraine.
Ukraine does not need 300+ mile range. The Russians are on their front lawn. The Kerch bridge does not matter when Russia owns the bottom 1/3rd of Ukraine which is a land bridge to Crimea that Ukraine cannot blow up or take.
Germans told me the other day that their government pays 3 million Euro each for these missiles. Ukraine is not worth ammo that expensive.
Современным немцем не привыкать. Их президент открытый гей. Его унизили в Катаре, заставив стоять на трапе 30 минут. Как ответили предки рейха? Взяли за щёку.
@@Konrok Putin stood and waited for the leader of Turkey to come and greet him. We laughed as he awkwardly stood there alone. LOL, still funny!
Old Manual MacRon. JK, great video as always!
“Mac-Ron” lmao 😂
So a few thoughts. I think NATO leaders need to come up with a clearly defined, unanimous definition for “victory” in Ukraine. What are they trying to achieve? It’s just a rhetorical question… I honestly don’t know if all members know what victory looks like. Given how long the war dragged on, apathy seems to have started to set in… next will come a desire to stop providing aid (that’s already happening in the U.S.). As for what happens if Ukraine falls and Russia borders with Europe… hasn’t that already happened with the latest countries to join NATO? Does that change the perceived threat from Russia? I’m not trying to be sarcastic… I honestly don’t know the answer. My gut says, the threat is the same as it is today, but I’m just a dude on the internet… not some war strategy guru. :) Bottom line, I hope the war ends sooner rather than later and the end result is one Ukrainians are happy with.
"What are they trying to achieve?"
1. Get rid of old military equipment - check
2. Increased profits of the military-industrial complex - check
3. Cause unrest in Russia and the collapse of the Putin regime - there was a Wagner rebellion, but it failed and Putin is still popular in Russia. They tried.
The continuation of this war brings less and less benefits to the West, so soon they will force Ukraine to the negotiating table.
No chose Ukraine from decade ago, so thus it is Ukraine today who will be the inflection point for the “buffer zone” a non nato country buffer zone… it’s what’s its about, the grain fields and Black Sea…makes sense, 🇺🇸 really love our oceans as the protection that never sleeps, the space that keeps the world buffered
IMHO victory looks like Russia collapsing as the USSR did after the Afgan invasion. More partitioning of Russia.
@@chrisbyers6084 I don’t know man. The complete collapse of Russia would be a mess. Power vacuums always seem to attract ruthless, ambitious strong men to fill the void. But honestly, if Putin falls out a window or something, the same thing would happen. Another a-hole would likely step in to take his place. Based on what I’ve seen in a ton of street interviews, a majority of Russians are simply used to a dictatorship. Many don’t seem to have a desire to think for themselves (“I’m not qualified to answer”). I guess high have to take the chance that the next guy up won’t be as bad as Putin. Maybe sweeten the pot by trying to help them with economic development or something like what the U.S. did with Japan after WWII? I don’t know. Just spitballing here.
I think at this point NATO troops won't make that much of a difference, Ukraine and Russia have already evolved warfare for the past two years. It would be like sending pre-war 1930s troops against battle hardened 1940s troops.
Second, if Europe have problem supplying JUST Ukrainian troops with enough ammo to continue combat, how are they going to supply actual NATO troops when they get deployed into Ukraine?
Smart comment.
There's a difference between sending weapons to allies and arming your own troops.
@@KofferrNot to the non-existant factories that are supposed to produce them.
This would be the case assuming Ukraine was using all the tools that NATO has and would use.
This might be more like sending troops from the 1960s against battle hardened 1940s troops.
NATO will like gain air superiority immediately. I think the bigger concern is NATO will be too successful and Russia flips the proverbial board game (nukes) and say now no one is playing.
@@chedderburg This, the point is to not use too much force otherwise russian can go nuke. But at this point it may be worth to take the bet.
"Mack-Ron" lol
Why the second channel?
This video and the topic in general reminds me of the saying "IF Ifs and Buts were candy and nuts we would all have a Merry Christmas!" How is Europe going to fill the shoes of the US when even the US can't do the job of supplying munitions? Europe is more deindustrialized than even the US. And you can't reindustrialize at the drop of a hat. It's going to take years to undo the damage of decades even if you are motivated, and I'm not sure how truly motivated they are.
But even then it'll be almost impossible to re-industrialize since Europe now no longer has a cheap, reliable energy source...due to obvious reasons. Wind turbines don't run an industrial military machine.
Thats the sad truth.
France can send their troops in , and article 5 would not be in effect. So the USA wouldn't have to come to the defense. NATO is there only as defense only. Example if turkey stars a war with Syria, NATO isn't automatically involved. So let the Frenchman go to the front and give it their best shot.
It would be incredibly embarrassing for France to do the right thing while the US stands by doing nothing
@@calebbearup4282yeah cause the right thing is start a 3rd world……… over Ukraine. Are you out their fighting? Did you volum to go fight? Then stfu.
@@calebbearup4282While that is true, the Europeans need to show their teeth and show other enemies that this type of attack will not stand.
the same goes then with Taiwan... don't expect NATO members to step in... or even Alaska since it's on the table too...
@@calebbearup4282France has been itching to show up the Americans since the whole WW2 saving their ass thing, and the whole getting us stuck in Vietnam thing. If France would have just given up Vietnam a long time before, Ho Chi Minh wouldn't have gone to the communists for aid. Also French participated but didn't lead in Desert Storm.
Honestly if they think the Mantle is easy, they should try to lift it.
don't rule anything in nor rule it out. I also wouldn't believe a word from anyone in Russia
Why not say u have second channel on ur main ??????
Cut losses. This is doubling down on a losing bet. Politically Ukraine is a mess.
Politically Ukraine is less of a mess than the US. Though that's admittedly a low bar.
@@jaxvoice718bro Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe might as well be led by a cartel this is the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a while
Russia cannot be allowed to win the war, as that would put other countries at risk. So it is only logical to take the inevitable clash with Russia now before they can recuperate.
Reporter: _"Have you guys thought about sending NATO troops to Ukraine?"_
Macron: _"I can neither confirm or deny that we thought about it."_
The Internet: _"OMFG! MACRON WANTS TO SEND NATO INTO UKRAINE!!! IT'S GOING TO BE WORLD WAR 3!!!"_
Macron: 😑
That’s basically exactly what happened .
by ''the internet'' you mean the ruZZian trolls and the ruZZian fanboyZ...
🎤 _"Perhaps"_
🎤 _"It's fine. really"_
🎤 _"This shouldn't concern any of us"_
🎤 _"Who knows"_
@@TaskPurpose1stSquadif you know french it was alot more serious then that. He basically said we need not to exclude any tools and boots on the ground are on the table. But it was mostly for the european elections to dent marine le pens rise in european elections as she is seen as a putin ally.
since day 1 of the war it was a matter of when its gonna go all out confrontation
well, it took long enough to determine and assess "things" in actual combat, nah! it wasnt long at all! almost the same "break" we took after 1939 before kicking some doors down
Hey Cappy, the desciption starts "French president french president..." - is it typed twice for double trouble? 😀
Europe is being forced to wear its own shows, and they don't fit anymore. Scary times when the Frogs start croaking about war while the Russians are feeling relatively froggy, one side's bluff is getting more likely to get called.
What does this even mean? Seriously?
And besides, your understanding of France's military and it's active military presence abroad (including Ukraine) seems more based on stereotypes rather than actual facts.
@AirB-101 what exactly does this comment claim about Frances military and its presence abroad? I feel like you're reading into this a bit.
@@chickenfishhybrid44I mean, how can you even tell? The comment is a mess.
@@AirB-101 Как там Нигер? Французов вышибли оттуда, и они и квакнуть не успели)
@@ghostpiratelechuck2259 he is talking about the western propaganda that ukraine is "winning".
I say send NATO troops , the z supporters have been saying russia has been fighting NATO the whole time so for those that believe that it shouldn't make a difference to them🤷♂️
This idiot wants this war to escalate 🤦🏻♂️
The West literally supplies weapons to Ukraine
If Iran does it in the Middle East they are involved
If the West does it in Ukraine, no
What is the point? Don't even have to be Pro-Russia to know that Ukraine is a battlefield between NATO and Russia
There are NATO troops represented as mercenaries, so officially there are no NATO troops. Because nobody wants to start nuclear armageddon yet.
Those 🤡 don’t even know what’s coming if real NATO troops gets involved
First of all, you'd have to have a very good justification for that because it would've been an action way outside of stated goals of NATO. That's basically a one sided declaration of war and Article 4 doesn't apply even if somehow NATO would remain unified on this matter - and it isn't, BTW. And second....if NATO will try to tackle Russia directly, there's no way China won't get involved and once they're involved, we're gonna have a nuke war sooner or later. So, in short, you may want to rethink your cheerleading efforts here.
Very great talk
Long time listener, first time caller 😜
NATO is already in Ukraine disguised as various things such as trainer, advisor, mechanic etc strangely all were soldiers before coming to Ukraine
And soldiers of fortune.. Troops in Kharkiv are 60 to 70% foreign "mercenaries" and soon they will cease to exist.
Of course those "mercenaries" are often just that, and they're getting clapped just like the rest of them who go up against Russia.
@ethical even i as regular US citizens would volunteer to go Ukraine even without military experiences (we help for sake of help) shit nobody want to live under putin xD
@@NekomiyaTH looks like according to IMF, Russian economy is better than G7 countries, which includes USA. So what did Putin do wrong?
@@NekomiyaTH is Putin wrong to make Russia from 3rd world country back in the 90's to top 5 today? Is that wrong? Isn't this achievement? Remember murun, here are over 190 countries on this planet. So is Russia wrong from being most poor to top 5? Tell me why?
As various journalists on the peace side of things have pointed out there were much better deals offered earlier than what the allies are struggling with now trying to hold back Russia from gaining more ground. Offers to settle this with no more lost territory only a pledge to make Ukraine a neutral country like how Austria was during the Cold War.
Yeah sure,
Ignore the genocide.
The exploitation and destruction of a separate culture...
And then its just like that.
The importance of neutral buffer states is realpolitik 101.
Except it's not peace, it's just giving more power to a totalitarian leader giving him a good excuse to continues his adventure.
Just like when the allies signed "peace treaty" with Germany when she annexed multiple countries illegaly back in the 30s.
@@ghostpiratelechuck2259 ^^^This. The current political figures of the West are incomprehensibly moronic. According to them, 1 + 1 = 11 and the moon is made of cheese.
@ghostpiratelechuck2259 EXACTLY. Imagine what would happen if Russia tried to get on our borders.
Float what idea? Float the idea of nuclear war? Lmao
Sending troops to Ukraine would not only be stupid but extremely dangerous, bringing the world one step more closer to WW3.
Every Nato country should absolutely let Putin know that a confratation is a possibility. Have to show Putin strength . He knows because most countries said they won't confront Putin!!! Stop showing weakness!!!
hard to hide weakness, when you are weak.
Its not weakness my guy nato would demolish russia its the whole idk thousands of nukes that make everyone think twice @hydrohasspoken6227
@@archieherrington9955 , Russia are not goat hoarders from Afghanistan, Lybia, Syria or Iraq(who gave the West a run for their money). Russia single handedly defeated the German war machine, which singlehandedly brought the whole Europe to its knees. And guess what, the 31 NATO members have no more hardware to send to Ukraine. They are broke and Russia is still going strong. Your move.
Not a single NATO leader has shown actual strength in the past few decades. Putin however, he said he'll invade if NATO advances towards Russia. And he did. That is strength. NATO leaders are just a bunch of cowardly "business men" who like to line their own pockets with taxpayer money. You can see this with how morally bankrupt the west has gotten over the past few decades. It takes a strong leader to lead a strong nation. What has the west become? WEAK.
Nuclear hype as always. Why tf is everyone thinking they will use it?! It's been said so many times and you all think it's something new?
Because in a direct non proxy war against Russia, theirs the threat of nukes, this is litteral why we had a cold war that never went hot into ww3
I’ll takes Musk’s opinion of the risk nuclear war over yours
Because of MAD, everyone's mad...
It's the trolley dilemma. It's a cruel choice but also one with an obvious solution.
"Would NATO start World War 3"
fixed the question for you...
New European troops would be clapped hard, just look through the list of former veterans who wanted a taste and who are no longer walking the Earth. Fighting dirt monkeys is way different than near peer combatants with more recent experience but hey c'mon, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon Technologies, Boeing, Northrop Grumman and General Dynamics would love your sacrifice to raise their share price.
hello Ivan theres vodka and cucumbers still for you!
The Idea is to have NATO troops secure the Belarussian border and act as garrison troops so Ukraine can commit every soldier it has to the front. Instead of their current deployment on two fronts incase Belarus decides to join.
@@Patson20 And what happens when Russia strikes those troop concentrations?
@mattfransen1551 the war ends two months later with putin deposed and all of western Russia being controlled by NATO forces. Russia lost 75% of their veterans troops in two months against an army weaker than the California national guard. Since then they've failed to conquer an area smaller than Texas in two years at the cost of over half their vehicles and a large chunk of their already meager air assets. We completely conquered a top 10 sized military that was fielding the same equipment the Russian army is today in the span of two months 23 years ago. So we'd do the same again.
@@Patson20 … What fanfiction site did you pull this off of 🤣🤣🤣?
It's absolutely crazy to think sending NATO troops in would solve the situation. Do you want to escalate the conflict to the rest of the continent? Because that's how that happens!
Oh man cappy we miss you
XFinity should be paying you advertising dollars here Cappy. That was some serious screen time (not a criticism bte, seeing the live webpage is great for this video format)
I guess Europe providing for their own defense is a new concept for them. Shocking.
I would say us in Finland have been doing our own defence pretty well, considering our size. Also comparing the military difference of us and Russia now and during winter and continuation wars, I'd say we have done our due dilligence. Of course with Putin's rule, no one is really safe, as rationality nor morals are not the driving force in their politics anymore.
I'd say we will have to ramp up our military production throughout Europe because of this, but I still feel it's rather unfair to state that Europe has not provided for our defence in general before.
Nice argument, Captain Hindsight. You Americans have no reason to get angry, the europeans always were trustworthy and reliable allies.
Seeing all these americans call for war in Europe is disgusting.
Another russian bot that joined youtube february 2022; are you guys at google all sleeping???
@@linkspyder Your mother is a russian bot
@@linkspyder you made his point. we dont need more war in europe we need peace so people stop dying iff ur prorussia or pro ukraine or pro none of them doesnt matter we should all be pro peace you warmongering american
There is a war in Europe, caused by Russia. It will last until the Russians leave.
@@linkspyderAnother puppet calling everyone disagreeing a "Russian bot" how typical
The frontline is crumbling because Ammo delivery is delayed. F16s were not supplied.
Does 'boots on the ground 'even mean pilots, aircraft maintainers,.. or is that still not 'on the ground'. ;)
American security is tied to European security, European security is tied to Ukrainian security. Simple as that.
It seems incredibly obvious that providing things is infinitely preferable to having to provide people.
Sadly people don’t seem to see the third link , they can’t see that European security is at risk
@@sourballs1248lol
Or how about we don't foment coups on the borders of major powers leading to wars in the first place.
@@sourballs1248 yes, well, that’s unfortunate, especially considering possible high coincidences in who ultimately might be the people who serve if needed… it is literally in their own self interest that Ukraine get an infinite ammo glitch 🤷♀️
Yeah whatever, big words until Russia vapourizes your neighborhood.
Why would nato ever enter this war? Russia has been losing since day one and only around 40k ukranian soldiers are dead or wounded, while over 600k russian soldiers are mostly dead and some wounded. Doesn’t anyone watch the news???
well............not the news you watch anyway! 🤣🤣
Some of us didn't vaxxinate, didn't have the boosta.......and most of all.......have VPN's 😁😁
Well, yes, Russia employs about 700,000 people... and Ukraine is losing... you have a brilliant logic, dude))) at the same time, last year zaluzhny admitted that Ukraine needs at least 500,000 at the front)))
Who told you this Victoria Nudelman ?
Why we dont know exact text of stambul agreement between kiev and moscow that was rejected after consultation with britain?
Finally more vids on The Ukraine Situation ! 🇺🇦
we will all die because they cant take an L in ukraine 😂😂😂
Nah
What would you be willing to lose after that? And after that? And after that? War is coming. You can stop it here, while it's small, or you can wait until russia takes more and more territory, becoming more and more powerful and fight a MUCH bigger, more devastating war later. As the saying goes, those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. This is world war 2 starting all over again right before your eyes.
Pootin took Crimea and we did nothing. So now he's coming for the next bite of territory. Same way hitler started taking a territory here, a territory there until the german war machine was very nearly an unstoppable force. Now all these countries have nukes. But. Do you just let countries with nukes do whatever the hell they want? Will you give up your home to appease them? Sure you can get another home but you can't get another life, right? But what about when the come for your next home? Or the next?
Cappy, you da man. Thanks for the informative entertainment broski!
we just love being reactive instead of proactive don't we
You have Trump. We have Macron. Both speak without thinking about the consequences of what they say.
I believe this is being floated as a wake up call to the US Congress (in addition to what you have stated). Basically, its either send the aid package now, or send troops later.. Your choice.
This account glows so much.
What the fuck is a noncombat troop. POGs might suck at combat but they still have rifles.
Cappy needs some echo dampening foam pads badly
That tucker Carlson Putin interview was a mad ride. Wish I could go on it again.
Im so confused over this conflict... I cant tell what I think.
we have been doing training in urk since 2014
How about we not do that 🤦🏻♂️
It would be the morally right thing to do, and usually the right thing to do is more difficult and more dangerous, and requires more thinking and more skill to achieve success, than just doing nothing.
So will they?
Wow 😳
Well everybody it has been a good run I will see you in the Fallout Shelter
Well when no mercs will go your only left sending ?
This channel told me Russia is losing...why does NATO need to send any troops...?
The Taurus can be used without German soldiers because south korea also has Taurus and there are no Germans there
Unlearned lesson of history! We are once again in 1938! Once again choosing between war and shame. We will get both! Don't make the same mistakes!