[Hearthstone] Kobolds & Catacombs Review 4
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I could see the Druid Legendary (Ixlid) working in a Aviana, Kun deck
Was thinking exactly that, you could get double the Malygos and nearly kill the opponent with two moonfires.
Aviana not standard. Jungle Giants though.
Why isn’t anyone thinking about the new Druid weapon. You drop the legendary, smash your weapon and then kun (mana) and then another big thing. That is 3 cards (and the weapon) for a really scary board and it is not that hard to pull off.
Anton Almgren Or just play New Druid legendary -> Faceless -> Twig reset mana -> Malygos (you have 2 extra copies) -> 2x moon fires for 32 dmg OTK.
Alien never gonna be reliable. Ooze him on 9:th round and it's gg.
I asked this in the comment section of several card reviews: Are we sure that silence removes the "reequip part" from valanyr? since it doesnt say "give a minion deathrattle: reequip this"
Kudo TV good point
That means that it would be immune to silence, but shuffles and transforms still shit on it.
The other thing is that, the only "after death mechanic" we have in HS is deathrattle, so maybe blizz thinks that it's self explanatory.
we do have "when a friendly minion dies"-effects so it wouldn't be too outwordly to think valanyr can ignore silences.
Even if it doesn't give the minion 'death rattle:...' silence would still remove the buff as it would remove any buff. Any buffs are listed on the blue scroll under the card and silence removes these.
Kudo TV Yeah like the effect from the Mage Hero Card that gives your Elementals Lifesteal, that cannot be silenced as well
0:12 to see cards
19:17 to not see cards
literally shaved my wife
What if I only want to see half the cards?
What a swift boy
Skipperino Kripperino heh
thank
Man I can't wait for his reaction for "To my side"
What happens if you play Bladed Gauntlet and Mayor Noggenfogger? Can you set up an OTK with 30 armor and those two cards?
John Red yes it should work in theroy
How fun! And possible with all these warrior board clears
John Red
Maybe, it should work but.. you never know with Blizzard
John Red I don’t believe so, as noggefogger’s random targets are only things that could be targeted before. For example, minions won’t randomly attack their allies
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. Stranger things have happened in this game but the mayor is pretty strict about things at least finding legal targets.
Kingsbane could be used in a mill rogue deck to give one extra card in your deck each time you use it so that you take less fatigue damage in the end. Just a thought.
Still don't get why they didn't just put the "Can't attack heroes." effect on Fiery Win Axe instead of making it 3 mana ):
Because it was too oppressive as removal, the nerf wasn't just for pirate warrior. The card had been an issue literally forever.
Cyan Light its not an issue it was used because there wasn't anything other than that to use. It was staple for control decks cause you couldn't compare the other warrior early cards with other early game class cards.
Because the hs team is reing run by fucking morons. They think more aggro and jade is what the community wants...
Id slap 'gain 5 armor' on it at 3 cost...so it's not staright up Worse than all other 3 cost weapons
It's true you can't necessarily compare cards from different classes but even so playing Fiery War Axe on turn two was statistically much more powerful than playing Frostbolt on turn two, as years of data demonstrated. It was so efficient that simply getting it in the mulligan was a viable wincon in certain matchups, assuming the rest of your deck was in a vaguely reasonable order.
I'm not a huge fan of the way the nerf was handled and disagree with the dev team's apparent idea that players simply can't handle complexity of any form from the basic cards, they definitely could have tagged some sort of effect onto it without melting minds and it's especially obnoxious since King's Defender already existed so the weapon is just strictly worse in formats where both exist. It's still obvious that a nerf of some kind was a good idea and fixing the core problem of it consistently being one of the best turn two plays in the game was a good place to start.
Kripp you owe us a h3h3 podcast
Kingsbane can get you out of fatigue if you just play it and kill it with your hero power every turn, so that's pretty neat.
I think Kingsbane could be okay with Fatigue Rogue. I mean, you are going to draw a bunch of cards anyways when you play that deck. The rogue class has that card that gives weapons lifesteal, as well as some attack buffs. Maybe a rogue could just dump all the other non-fatigue cards in place of Kingsbane and weapon buffs? And stab all their problems away? I'm saying that like it's a question because I'm unsure myself.
The Kingsbane is the answer to rogue's lifesteal problem, however if you're depending on 1 card that needs to be drawn early then you probably lose, especially if you had to replace your tempo cards with weapon buffs.
theStonerKid69 No, it's bad. You have weapon for 3 that stops *all* fatigue damage for a turn, it's balls, you can play as many murlocs as you have mana for after this without any risk. And you want to replace this one card(And it's duplicate) with probably 8+ cards that you need to play in order to not even stop fatigue, but to heal for few hp.
What WOULD happen if Val’anyr was on Tirion? Which weapon would you get when Tirion dies?
samiamrg7 i was asking myself the same question
+Hit if my knowledge of event order is accurate (which it probably isn’t) I _think_ that Tirion’s normal deathrattle would go off and then the Val’anyr deathrattle, overwriting the Ashbringed. That is assuming it works like deathrattles added after a minion is played, where the first deathrattle put into play goes off first. Since the deathrattle is added in the hand though, I don’t know if it works the same.
From memories with Shaman's resummon spell, I believe you're correct.
You get Valanyr because Natural Deathrattles trigger before added deathrattles.
To My Side doesn’t state “random” animal companion so do we get to choose which one we get??
No
tbh we don't know so we'll see
No. If you got to choose it would say "choose an animal companion..." or "discover an animal...", so it probably won't let you.
I think this expansion just have tons of ambiguous texts: to my side does not say, random but probably will be random, deck of wonders text is: shuffle scrolls in your deck, when drawn cast a random spell and does not have (target chosen randomly) like yogg and grand archivist. Some spellstones doesn't specify if you must upgrade them in a single turn or you can for example overload 3 mana in 2 turns for the shaman card or play 2 spell in one turn and 2 in another in the priest one. I mean... i guess we'll know when the expansion is out.
Basically, it would say "Summon Huffer".
Twilight's Call isn't a clunky, powerful card, it's a very straightforward, moderate power card that will occasionally do something bonkers.
It's the same principle as something like Duplicate. Most of the time it just provides a nice, solid value. Sometimes it does something completely bonkers. It's almost never bad. Twilight's call can't provide fat bodies, and it only works in decks that have a fair amount of deathrattle cards, but Priest works well with deathrattle, so it's still playable in a lot of potential decks.
I think a lot of people are missing a big upside about Dragonhatcher's Stats.
Since it only has 2 attack it's really easy to pull out with Meat Wagon.
Does the spellstone cards, and the like, have to be in your hand to upgrade?
have to be in hand.
kingsbane is a weapon you put lifesteal on and play buff pirates with. you can stay alive because of rogue board control and lifesteal. it can excel in fatigue because you can play this every turn and break it with hero power to never take fatigue damage, and hit opponent with lifesteal each turn! very exciting! play roll the bones with full deathrattle deck with this weapon + some buffs to help going to fatigue fast. also king togwaggle w/ mill has some potential in fatigue to just win the game instantly
The Rogue legendary makes me really upset. That's not Kingsbane. Kingsbane is the toxin inside The Kingslayers, which are the two daggers Garona used to kill King Wrynn.
"people dont play big things" uh kripp have you ever heard of big priest? big druid? bonemare? cobalt scalebane? you know some of the most popular decks/cards in the meta
This rogue legendary weapon Kings Bane is severely underestimated here I feel. You can infinitely resist fatigue with that card, by equipping, attacking and then hero powering to send it back into your deck. ALSO, I believe this weapon will apply poison and life steal effects in conjunction with blade flurry, since it holds onto enchantments when the weapon dies. That means full board clears, insane healing and no fatigue. That's pretty good.
I was just about to say all that, but then i checked the comments. Couldn't agree more. Massive oversight by Kripp.
Benjamin Dougall damn well visioned
no, because blade flurry deals the dmg, not the weapon.
Same thing with Shadowflame, if u shadowflame a poisonous or lifesteal, they wont trigger.
They work the same way, upon cast, they check the attack of the weapon(minion) and deal that value as spell dmg, not weapon/minion dmg
Benjamin Dougall it's a legendary weapon meaning you have a 1/30. if you do not draw this card in the early game and or mid game it will be garbage due to you wasting buffs on other weapons and even if you draw the weapon if you cannot draw the buffs it's trash. Also if the win condition is fatigue then jade druid, highlander priest, and quest mage win.
+Timothy Su I'm not so sure. I remember the reasoning that was provided was becoz the minion or the weapon is destroyed first so it can't apply effects. I could be easily wrong though, you may be right.
Val'anyr is crazy with doppelganster/sauronite in your hand.
The 2 mana warrior weapon seems really good for control warrior. You can get atleast 2 armor at the start of your next turn, which is not enough to be valuable, but if you get extra armor from a card in your hand, you'll quickly reach 5 attack which is already great for 2 mana.
With the rogue Death Knight, you can cast Kingsbane on the second draw after it's been buffed a lot, then cast it again using the extra card. That will shuffle it into your deck. Then you simply use it up and another one will shuffle in. Rinse and repeat
Wait, will Doomerang work with Kingsbane? If so that is pretty OP.
hey guys how’s it going kripparrian yeah
IT gets closer and closer every day
11:28 That counter the Dragonfire potion from the priests
Can't wait to see at least one clip where Dragoncaller Alanna summons 3+ dragons that immediately fall victim to Shadowreaper Anduin.
Are we sure the effect from the paladin legendary weapon can be silenced? I am not sure with the way it's worded that the "when it dies, reequip this" is applied to the minion or is just in the hearthstone ether.
For kingsbane, mike donnais commented on its synerygy with doomarang, it will return the weapon with all its enchantes to your hand. So it synergises really well
André Cécile isnt the deathratle keeping the waepons buffs so it whould lose them?
Dragonhatcher: It's a nerf to Evolve, and a buff to Malygos (basically he gains +2/+4). I think this card is meant to be used in combo decks
Whats so difficult to understand about Elven Minstrel? Its a 2 mana minion with 2 mana draw 2 cards attached to it. It has more value packed in one card and its cheaper than those effects separately. Downside is you need to play another card before it, but tempo decks generally run a lot of cheap cards anyway. Tempo rogue will love this. It has insane shadowstep value.
For the first card you showed I was thinking it would fit well in a Miracle Rogue because it allows you to siphon the auctioneers rather than just hope to draw into them.
If I'm looking at the right deck list then, currently Big Priest only runs a single spell that couldn't have been cast before turn 7. It also only contains 1 minion that could be played before Turn 7. So you're probably looking at 4-6 spells cast before turn 7 in order to be in a survivable position anyway.
2 Obsidian Statues and a Litch King for 7 seems pretty valuesome to me.
I think the dagger with valera? if you get a copy could give mill rogue a way to generate more cards? if you stick it with life steal as well as a buff or two you are winning.
Dragoncaller Alanna works with spells that are already going to be in most mage decks: Flamestrike, Meteor, Firelands Portal, Cabalist Tome...
I wonder how Kingsbane (and the rouge hero power) works with the kobold that gets a weapon from your graveyard.
Much more hyped about Possessed Lackey than you are thanks to Voidlord, but otherwise nice review! 👌
the warrior weapon can be used like a pre nerf fiery war axe though,which makes it kinda good imo
I disagree about Val'anyr, mainly because this card basically removes weapon removal from the opponents deck. Considering EVERYONE believes weapon removal cards will be a strong component of the next meta, I think this card will basically (in essence) remove a card from being played by the opponent (or at least until Val'anyr is destroyed) since they wouldn't want to give a minion in your hand the value of +4/+2. Additionally, with the hand-buff minions (Chaingang, probably the more popular pick) and divine shield minions, it's HUGE value to land this buff on those cards. If you don't then you still get a +4/+2 on a minion.
Although the original cost is 6 mana, all other times it's basically a 0 mana weapon which continuously buffs minions. And since Paladin has a few healing mechanics in its deck, it seems like it's a very good fit for the late game. Even if Silence is a thing which will be prodominent in the next expansion, that removes the silence from being used on a card buffed by Spiked Ridged Steed. Overall, I think this card will be fairly common in the next expansion.
RoK Mod almost with you there but think that the weapon is just too slow. If there was a control meta then maybe this card could work.
actually it does not disables antiweapon meta: paladin usually run more than just one weapon, you wouldn't want to break val'anyr, but you want to break all the other weapons they have, and those from all the other classes as well; only one you won't want to break is druid's and still, it will eventually break
how does this counter weapon removal? you equip it, attack, and it has one durability, if its not removed you just do 4 extra damage next turn and trigger the deathrattle yourself.
The best comparison is justicar trueheart which did see play but one paladin isn't doing so well right now and 2 it is great value but is it better value than infinite jades?
no, the card is shit. When you play it you basically lose the game if you aren't already ahead on board
The rogue legendary weapon seems really good in a kill deck cuz each turn at the end of the game, you can equip this, hero power, and then you have another card in your deck
Kingsbane can be placed into the deck a few times with Rogue DK?
for crystal lion: stand against darkness + 1 mana 5-5 divine shield seems pretty ok for turn 6
I mean kingsbane is decent at the start of a game for a rogue, it is a one mana 1/3 instead of your hero power. Sure it takes a card but it comes back into your deck again. I can see how if it does not get any buffs it would be a terrible top deck in arena.
If you thistle tea or mimic pod it does it keep all of the buffs or are they each their own specific card? That would be a way to make it powerful.
Possessed lackey looks ok in a wild warlock deathrattle deck but I want to try it in a discard deck because most of the minions are broken if you manage to skip their discard effect or flame imps five damage to face
"You have to play a nine drop and another nine drop and then this card and at that point in the game will that matter? Probably not."
Since when did big priest play an obsidian statue for 9 mana?
I think you highly underestimate Kingsbane. Deadly poison saw play in many rogue decks for years and it definitely isn't a bad card. On top of this, you can use Kingsbane with your hero power or Deathknight Valeera to make sure you never enter fatigue. You could enchant it with lifesteal as well and you have a solid endgame plan that is tough to deal with. It addresses one thing that control rogue was sorely lacking: how to beat other control / fatigue decks that can outlast you very easily (such as any control warrior or priest).
warrior can do a deadmans hand with bring it on and that weapon to control board and fight fatigue :P
Dragoncaller Alanna’s card text needs to be clearer. At first glance, I thought it was a permanent effect for the rest of the game that’s activated after you play the card. So every time you cast a 5 cost or up spell, it also summons a 5/5 dragon along with the spell.
juggalodx4life It is clear. Battlecry.
Bladed gauntlet is good against early game. After you play it, bladed gauntlet will always deal at least 2 damage (if you're willing to spend the mana to armor up). If you're going to remove a minion with your weapon, you're going to lose your armor anyway. So look at it from the perspective of "how much damage should this do to get value out of a 2 mana weapon."
Bladed gauntlet is also a high risk/reward card for dealing with the endgame dragons, beefy druid taunts, and lots of priest stuff (funnelcaeks, obsidian, etc). The risk is that sometimes you'll need 3+ damage and just won't have the armor. The reward is that sometimes you'll have 12 armor and can slam down a Malygos for 2 mana.
I like it. Still probably won't ever play warrior though.
kings bane might work in mill rogue. Since you can never fatigue by hero powering the weapon
Yes, it tottaly negates those 4+ draws you force upon yourself in single turn from murlocs. If there was just a weapon that would stop all that damage for 3 mana...
Milling is almost impossible to do these days but thank you for pointing that out, i wouldn't have thought of that. I miss milling people and then they friend me to bitch me out before unfriending me right after. Good times.
bladed gauntlet + 30+ armor + mayor noggenfogger = otk. we're definetly gonna see that in a trolden video one day.
Do the spell tomes require you to play the (for example with the hunter and secrets) the secret while its in your hand or can it be in your deck you draw it and its already stage 2 or 3
Supertracker007 Only while it's in your hand
Kings bane seems pretty op. I just know how easy it is to build a rogue deck that goes through itself super fast, then you can hero power whenever you want to control the destruction of your weapon.
What exactly is the difference between 'Recruit' and 'put a *blank* minion from your deck into the battlefield' ??
nothing really except recruit for some cards has specefic costs/tribes but since theyre giving alot of cards that effect now they give it a keyword.
Does Val'anyr get reequipped when the weapon dies or when the minion dies?
When the minion dies.
AGiantPie I wish it was when the weapon dies lol
Tyrone The Warrior hey frick off pal
A custom Card I came up with to make Weapon Rogue viable:
"Forge of Trolls" 3 mana
Draw two weapons from your deck
the rogue weapon can be very great with the rogue DK. you can equip twice the weapon per turn and you will never fatigue. Mill weapon rogue can be a nice deck-
That rouge weapon...could you not run the with the rouge legendary that copies the card you just played and then generate infinite ones each turn?
Funny you just mentioned that Kingsbane would need some kind of weapon searching effects to be any good... may I present to you, Cavern Shinyfinder!
You're not considering the fact that kingsbane makes rogue completely inmune to fatigue, they just have to play the weapon, attack, then use the hero power and they have a card in their deck
or if you're playing valeera you just play the weapon again lol
Why kripp comparing Doomsayer with new mage AoE? Doomsayer+nova works so different and prevent your opponent from playing minions on turn after.
He wasn't saying they're the same. He was saying some mages might opt for the new AoE if they don't feel they need the doomsayer/nova combo. At its most basic level, it opens up a card slot, which can be a world of difference.
Joseph Ostrom Regardless of doomsayer or not, freeze mages will still run Frost Nova... I don't see a point?
Kripp mentioned removing nova. Idk if I'd do that regardless, but yeah. It's a matter of where you want your time and your costs, and if you're worried about your clear not going off from doomsayer.
Good on Krip for predictiong the weapon tutor for rogue.
Don't forget about the Mayor, Kripp.
That gauntlet may yet deal a TON of damage to a hero's face because of him.
Turn before the Noggenfogger: That weapon + any huge amounts of armor gain that you have
Then the next turn, you play the Mayor, roll the dice, and maybe end up smacking the opponent in the face for like... 20- 45 damage. :3
Alternatively, if we're going for single-turn stuff
Barnes out the Mayor, play two "Bring it on" cards, then play the weapon and roll the dice for a face hit. :3
It's silly, but it's definitely going to happen and end up in either one of your videos, or one of those "Lol so random! xD" Hearthstone clip shows. :3
I could see the rogue's kingsbane being in a fatigue deck
Bladed Gauntlet should've either had invulnerability on attacking OR the Fools Bane effect where you can swing multiple times at minions.
polishhockeyfan Too op; Not taking damage is op as you need to have armour to attk, not taking damage means u save both hp and armour. A fool's bane effect is useless too as u need armour to attack, attacking once usually means you run out of armour, furthermore, this weapon only has 2 charges so I doubt it would be that good
Are you kidding on kings blade, it's a direct upgrade to the rouge hero power, plus it also prevents fatigue damage. Equip, attack, hp to break it, redraw next turn. Add envenom and have permalink on attack. It's super strong and even becomes a combo enabler and is resistant to weapon destruction.
Permakill* damn auto correct
MrShockzine Its something like Keleseth, if its the last card in your deck, its not that good. Though I would want to see Mill Rogue with that as a form of no fatigure
not necessarily... on one hand you can say that about any 1 cost card...if its the last card it will suck.... On the other, if your last card is potentially a 5/3 with lifesteal and venomous..... I think you might have won... I wonder if minion cards that increase dmg will remain if the card is destroyed with the buff applied.. like vengeful blacksmith.. or w/e that enrage card is.
Hey Kripp, you didn't even mention that kingsblade protects you from natural fatigue and with the death knight you literally can't fatigue after a couple turns.
So, Bladed Gauntlet has potential. If the Armor Warrior deck is good, then they'll have a lot of armor, and if people don't generally play really big minions, then this can usually net 2 kills pretty easily. This weapon is a lot like Gorehowl, if you think about it. Theoretically, its attack reduces after you kill something, and it's always gonna kill at least 2 things. You pay a lot less Mana for a lot less value over time, but think about having the armor to kill a 10 drop, killing it, then also playing an 8 drop. That's pretty good.
Yeah, it's like two shield slams. Shield slam is overpowered, so getting two overpowered cards for the price of one is probably also overpowered. Taking damage doesn't really matter in an armor deck, I think his analysis was weirdly way off. Your normally play an armor gain card before a shield slam anyway and warrior is getting even more tools to do that kind of thing, why would this be any different?
I don't play Hearthstone anymore, but isn't dead mans hand warrior still a thing? And they have some absurd amounts of armor.
Dead mans hand warrior is a bad deck and I doubt any of these cards will in any way make it better.
And no, they don't have absurd amounts of armor. Not when priests are hitting your face for 10 a turn and Druids are spawning 9/9s.
Plus in a game vs aggro in which you have little armor, using weapons to kill minions is not as good because it reduces your life total, so you dont need to use it, so it doesnt matter that is has littlr attack
To actually answer the question, yes Dead Man's Hand is still a thing. It's getting a new AoE too. Obviously that won't see play because as we all know new cards never see any play (which is why all of the decks currently in the meta have always been the only decks in the game) and something something dead on turn five every game but if you hypothetically wanted to buy new cards and figure out how they might do things instead of queuing up Keleseth Rogue for the 1,000th time then that would be a good place to start.
if you play valanyr and u play another weapon, does that destroy valanyr and its deathrattle plays it again right away. is there a way to play two valanyrs
The rogue legendary makes it difficult to fatigue rogue doesn’t it? Play Kingsbane, attack, hero power and Kingsbane goes back in your deck.
Yup, an exploit has been found!
Kingsbane the legendary rogue weapon + doomerang? deathrattle puts it back into the deck but doomerang puts it into your hand as well so does it creates a duplicate? If so it would be some juicy value
Thomas Montenat no it doesn't duplicate, it doesn't die
Oh right lul I would still like to see a dek build around this card tho
Thomas Montenat you lose all the buffs from the waepon aswell so rip
Kingsbane might be interesting in a mill rogue, it adds a card in your deck, its an okay card to control the early game, i'm looking forward trying to an okay deck with it
19:17 to hear about why To My Side is so good
Kingsbane counters fatigue as long as you hero power after using it. you could run insane amount of draw
Kingsbane with poisons and lifesteals, i'll think i try to avoid rouges, this weapon is technically immune to ooze.
I'm gonna be super pissed if I open a bunch of legendary weapons on Thursday.
Wait Kripp now you have heart my brain, if this triggers on tirion and then he doesn't get silenced and dies does the weapon immediately get cracked by his weapon and then put on a new creature or does the weapon negate his weapon. @.@ so many questions.
also will rummaging kobold work with keeping the enchantment on the weapon since it technically is destroyed? because then you have a single search and a single recovery and that might just be enough
15:53 Have you seen prince keleseth decks. Its like 100% chance to get it kn opening with the synergy. At least from what ive seen.
Kripp's reviews for cards in most cases are dogshit since he tries not to ever say anything close to "I think this card might be good" but will always be "well, i'm skeptical on it regardless." I personally think Kingsbane is going to be a staple in any rogue deck since they're added a lot of synergy to weapons in the last expansion. Even if I'm wrong, it will still be a great card for rogue in arena.
Rogue can now prevent themself from dying to fatigue with Kingsbane, imagine you buffed it like crazy, draw your entire deck really fast, now kill everything your opponent play at you, then you only have kingsbane remaining in your deck that you will draw, equip, swing with then hero power, rince and repeat, what about that?
Ronaldi Chastel they need something to control the board with 7 mana, not with priests dealing 10 dmg per turn
That's seriously shitty, hunter epic level of shitty.
The problem is that in the next trolden video after the expansion, someone will fuck around and throw a malygos or other high power dragon into their evolve shaman deck, roll a 8 into a dragon Hatcher and have it summon their token dragon winning the game.
Ixlid is a backup combo piece for weapon kun deck
Ixlid seems nice in Jade druid. I mean; you can get two Fandrals in play that needs to be instantly dealt with or 2-for-1 Arcane giants. Everything else is just a nice bonus albeit it collides with spreading plague.
Lox4013 the thing is that jade druid has already so much value that it probably doesn’t need any more.
Korhone you're probably right lol
13:28 amazing joust card, just 3 years late LUL
Kripparrian yeah
With Kingsbane, Rogues dont go fatigue anymore, right? Just re-dagger, and voila...
Oh yeah, that's true!
Elven minstrel is just a smaller ancent of lore, pre-nerf edition
Hunter beasts and secrets one of my favorite cartoons as a kid wondering if anyone will get what I going off of ?
Wouldn't Val'Anyr be absolutely broken in Arena? It's essential infinite value as long as your opponent has no weapon removal.
MadSwedishGamer you lose temp and let your opponent kill you faster
That's assuming that they have stuff on the board that you cannot kill outright with the weapon, which is far from guaranteed.
It's actually infinite value EVEN IF your opponent has weapon removal thanks to the weapon's deathrattle. Only way to stop the value is to silence a minion with the buff.
*F* *U* *C* *K*
The rougue legendary weapon will be good . That's what I think at least . Even if you have it in late game you can use the rouge hero to play the weapon twice so you can fill the deck with the weapon
Edit: you can design a fatigue style deck and you can go with the new rogue spell that's destroyng random minions and do some deathrttle shit with n'zoth aswell . I really see potential
I can already see Firebat upgrade his Priest Dino Deck with that 7 mana mass Resurrection spellstone. *Cast 8 Spells, summon 28 burst SMOrc damage.*
The rogue legendary makes me want to do weapon, death knight, miracle rogue.
I am really surprised that people looks like do not see two option of the rouge weapon:
1, it makes rouge deck to go infinite!
2, weapon miracle rouge could be a thing
Bladed Fist needs 3 armor to be win axe with the potential to be better. I don’t see control warriors not playing it (if they exist).
val'anyr could be compared to tentacle for arms
King's Bane is potentially very strong with Doomerang. Depends if it still keeps the buffs tho.
I really want to know how the two interact. One want to shuffle it into the deck and the other wants to put it into your hand. Pretty sure they wouldn't make a copy since it seems like a Sherazin-style effect so it's a question of which one wins, I think the spell resolves fully first so it would go into your hand and then get shuffled from there into the deck which means it's not as good as it sounds but if it works the other way it's potentially insane.
Doomerang returns the weapon to your hand. That means it doesn't "die". That means the Deathrattle doesn't trigger. So no, you don't keep the buffs.
I was afraid the "keeps all enchancements" part is a part of the deathrattle not the card itself >_> Oh well... I guess Doomerang is doomed to be unplayable.
I just got a sudden realization watching this video. If Valanyr hits Dopplegangster and all of them die in the same turn you will get the deathrattle effect to trigger 2 times (each hitting 1 or several minions) plus a fresh weapon (which will eventually trigger the deathratlle a third time by itself)
In this scenario the card is not weak against single target silence (It is sitll weak against mass dispell , devolve and the new Priest AoE if none of the copies die)
Since Psychic scream is probably going to be all around the meta this probably won't work at least till Raza leaves the rotation.(This would also work on Saronite Chain Gang.)
For priest spell stone.
Put Only Velen and Malygos inside the deck. other than that fill the deck with many removal as much as possible.
Once Vele and Maly get kill . play this with mind blast and holy smite Bam! OTK!.
in wild turn two coin muster turn three crystal lion seems pretty sick
looks like that repeatable evolve card was to keep evolve shaman working with all these recruit cards
possessed lackey works great with warlocks 3 mana destroy one of your minions destroy a random enemy minion will it be worth it? who knows
Blades gauntlet + Mayor Nogenfoger = OP
Btw dragons fury is still worth it with ice block in your deck.