EMP Operative definitely should've been "Silence and Destroy a Mech". Some mechs had deathrattles, so adding the silence effect would make the EMP Operative be a catch-all remove-a-mech solution, but even then, it would've have been very good.
On your point about Crimson Expanse and its ties to Demon Hunter, I wish that Dormant was more strongly defined in its class identity. It just makes so much sense from a flavour perspective for a class with the literal mechanic of Outcast to have their minions being uninteractable for some time after they are summoned, especially given how Illidan was imprisoned (thus Dormant) for 10000 years.
Yeah, Dormant has always been in a wierd spot in HS, because they know it's a good enough keyword to not leave abandoned like other set exclusive keywords, but it's flavor is so narrow that most of the time, only DH & Warlock feel thematic for it.
I think half the time you forgot what the word 'specific' means. Both Crimson Expanse and Argent Watchman are just generically bad cards, but nothing is really 'specific' about them. Both damaged minions and hero powers are just things that happen organically in almost every match. A good fit for the list would have been Skulking Gheist, who was made specifically to target Jade Druids. Or either of the Hemet Nesingwary's (IIRC one kills a beast, and the other destroys all cards in your deck that cost 3 or less).
because he was actually playable - holding a dragon in your hand is not a condition, and legendaries are always common on the board, especially in some metas.
I was talking about this days ago with a friend we concluded that Rend is probably the most specific and one the worst cards in the game because of that.
If EMP Operative had been 2 mana, gain +1/+1, like the entire Golakka cycle, it absolutely would have seen a ton of play in Wild over the years. There's been a LOT of metas where mechs need to die, like before Mechwarper got nerfed and, uh, right now, with Unkilliax ruining lives. In fact, if it read "silence and destroy a Mech" it would probably be playable right now at 5 mana just to counter Unkilliax (a version of Zilliax that was recently released that is incredibly sticky and hard to remove without healing your opponent for 16 or more.
@@JordanMG I was shocked they didn't release one with Perils with all the new minion types and all the callbacks they made in that set and Whizbang. Maybe they were just waiting for Draenei.
there's a minion that's like "Battlecry: If you're holding a 4-cost card in your hand, deal 4 damage" or something like that, which is super specific, inconsistent and unnecessary for mediocre stats
One I was surprised not to see on here is Dragonslayer, a neutral 3 mana 4/3 common from K&C with Battlecry: Deal 6 damage to a Dragon and the flavor text "A pair of stout dwarves nearly averted the Cataclysm."
A few other cards: Rend Blackhand - battlecry: if you're holding a dragon, destroy a legendary minion Defias Cleaner - battlecry: silence a minion with deathrattle Grimtotem Bounty Hunter - battlecry: destroy an enemy legendary minion Lil' Exorcist - battlecry: gain +1/+1 for each enemy deathrattle minion Grimtotem Buzzkill - battlecry: discard a weapon to draw 3 cards Ice Cream Peddler - battlecry: if you control a frozen minion, gain 8 armor Bayfin Bodybuilder - after a minion is summoned for your opponent on your turn, silence and destroy it Fight Promoter - battlecry: if you control a minion with 6 or more health, draw 2 cards Selfless Sidekick - battlecry: equip a random weapon from your deck Wicked Skeleton - battlecry: gain +1/+1 for each minion that died this turn I don't think any of these cards saw play when they were in standard, but I could be wrong
Inspire was from a time when hero powers were supposed to be a strong thing you did every couple turns. And yet half the inspire cards weren't good. It's like how joust could have been good but a lot of the pieces were built opposite how you wanted. I'm glad to see how often MarkMckz is referenced in your videos for actual use cases. Lol
Being dormant for one turn decreases the combo potential of crimson expanse in one way but in another way it makes the combo potential really strong since it guarantees the minion will be on board at the start of your next turn, allowing for >10 mana combinations before turn 10.
I climbed to legend with Crimson Expanse a few times, back when there was that naga that could cheat out an Illidari, and All Fel Breaks Loose. Crimson was really good for that.
I'm going to add Azerite Elemental, Against all Odds, Dread Raven, Grimtotem Buzzkill, The Lobotomizer, Posse Possession, and Master of Ceremonies to this list
While Furnace elemental is weird, Warrior got Forge of Souls in the same set I believe, and and Charge also existed in wild. While not consistent I remembet it being a funny otk
Currently theres a bomb deck running Crimson Expanse and Carnivorous Cubicle to summon many more copies of testing dummies and safety experts thats pretty fun to play.
One very fun overly specific card is Grave Shambler. It can be a +1 Attack Yeti if you destroy a weapon and then it threatens to get +1/+1 if it lives like 2 turns. Compared to like Hench Clan Thug, this card is atrocious. Love me some of those KoFT weapon synergy cards.
Why EMP Operative over Hemet Nesingwary? Also shocked Ice Cream Vendor isn't even on the list. That card's like the king of overly specific trigger conditions.
Forget Hemet, Rend Blackhand is the king of obscure removal minions. Only kills legendaries, bad stats for cost, AND requires a dragon in hand to even kill said legendary.
ice cream peddler was used in shudder shaman in wild for a while. You could gain an obscene amount of armor and just deny your opponent any form of winning
If you do this again, a good one is Roosting Gargoyle. That's neutral 2 mana 2/3 from Castle Nathria that gives a Beast +2 attack. That's one of the most "Huh?" cards in recent memory. It's not even a Beast itself. Why was that made?
Hey Jordan, loved the video! Also your question about the dormant for 1 turn thing being a demon hunter thing, here’s my take on it (although I agree it’s weird) Demon hunter came out in Ashes of Outland, the same set as most of the dormant for 2 turns cards (you mentioned antaen and magtheridon). But also lore wise, demon hunters were magically imprisoned (they were essentially dormant) and they have an ability in wow that imprisons enemies like they were (making them dormant) Idk that’s just my thought on it. Thanks for highlighting a bunch of cards i definitely forgot about
for the 4th card, the punisher ironically, I'm just imagining playing at that time being f2p, you finally see there's an epic card in one of your packs and you get super hyped. Then you flip it over and it's that garbage card. Reminds me of how the only legendaries I opened back in the day were gvg Hemet and Boogeyman, I am not joking.
same idea goes for the other epics. I guess it was called boogeymonster but whatever. Also I remember opening that trash legendary that's like a 7/7 for 8 that gained +1/+1 at the start of your turn or something like that, no idea what it's called but this was around the time that the 7/7 for 4 got printed smh. Why do they make so many terrible legendary cards?
Dormant usually (in flavor) refers to things sleeping or locked/chained. So in crimson expanse. It's kinda like frankenstein. Make another copy, but ya gotta revive it for next turn.
Deathaxe punisher could be interesting if they lowered the mana cost and made it blood dk card. Maybe they could rework it to say "give a random lifesteal weapon in your hand +2+1" or something.
I remember playing Wailing Soul in silence priest with decktracker and checking the site for stats later. There were days it has 100% winrate because I won 1 the single game I played that day
Dormant is kinda a demon hunter thing, think of Illidan lore and being “dormant” (imprisoned) for 10K years, also dormant was introduced with Ashes alongside DH, and actually a 3rd thing DH has been mentioned along side crystals multiple times, soul shards in Scholomance, soul fragments from the DH weapon in March, I’m sure there more like you could say a crystal/gem could be a type of relic. Overall I think flavor wise it fits really well,
Maybe the point of the life steal hand buff, is if you want to focus on lifesteal minions, and you you keep that You can ensure one of your lifesteals gets the buff
Emp operative was at least a card that has a clear use and was put into the set with a reason in mind. "Oh if these mechs cause a problem then we have some safety valve in place for it" Argent Watchman could have been a good card but it suffered from GvG/early Hearthstone problems of just being too weak. If it was a 5/5 for 2 with that stat line it might have been okay to put generically into a deck but might have made Watcher/Handlock Warlock too strong in that era.
I really like these random cards. I'm not a huge fan of every expansion having a pre-built deck for every class when it could be more random cool cards to experiment with and find your own combos with.
I agree. I doubt theyll switch back but it seems like they make decks more than cards now a days. Although theres examples of really old sets where that ended up being true anyway so who knows
I use furnacefire colossus in my E.T.C in my Spectral Cutlass deck ! Since i generate a lot of random cards, i tend to generate weapons. And since i have a lot of card draw, they tend to brick my hand. I don't use furnace colossus for its stat, but to free up my hand !
If you make this a series i will watch every single video pinky promise. I can never get enough of shitting on bad cards in card games. I'd watch a 1 hour video about how bad Silverback is compared to other options
@JordanMG it has been years since I've even thought about solem. Was solem not the biggest hs youtuber for like a year? Also, did he do something wrong?
I'm surprised that you didn't mention voidcaller when talking about light's champion. It seems the developers thought it would be a "perfect" answer to a 4 mana 3/4 deathrattle demon, thoigh of course it wasnt since everyone just used ironbeak owl.
@@motymurm My Brother in Christ what meta are you living in? No-one plays Ancient Watcher. They dropped a 4 mana 7/7 Taunt w no attack and it saw hyper niche play. No one is going to play a 4/5 for 2 mana that requires more mana to attack
I think there could be a bit more optimism, but honestly I would love to see more of this, Lots of neat... but ultimately useless cards in HS and some of them need to be shown off as an option for a off-meta deck
If there would ever be a crad that benefits from dormand or that you would want to get on board for later turns without risking to have it being removed next turn crimson expance could suddenly turn into a great card for that. But I doubt that will happen as hearthstone is not moving towards a slow enough format for such things.
Furnacefire should have said: Eat all weapons in your hand and gain their stats. For each weapon consumed, draw a card. Then atleast, it wouldn't dismantle your handsize.
0:26 meme counterpoint: Mark once used it to destroy his own minion. Which one? forgor. When? i feel like a week or so after it came out. ->later into the video, most gameplay about these cards is either so old yt was decent with the amount of ads or is a convoluted Mark combo
My theory is that Deathaxe Punisher gave a random minion in your hand lifesteal and +2/+2 but it ended up being too strong so they nerfed it to what it is.
Not sure what that card name’s is, but paladin got a 3 mana 3/3 that hand buffs your minions and has a weird condition. I’d argue it belongs here. It’s from PiP
I'm convinced Argent Watchman was suppose to be 1 mana then they thought it would be too op so put it at 2 to kill it cause it being the same cost as the hero power makes 0 sense
Furnacefire Collossus feels like a card that was designed for decks that run too many weapons that clog their hand up with them or such, but it has many problems: - The high cost and big stats make it too weak to removal while making the weapon stats not as relevant as they would be on a smaller, cheaper minion. - You discard ALL weapons FROM HAND. If you run lots of weapons but have one you care about equipping in hand, playing it takes precedence over this clunky minion and any weapon you might be holding is wasted. These issues are problems a card Shadestone Skulker doesn't have, which is also a sort of "weapon declogger" in a different way. I wish these design ideas were touched on more in Rogue, as it is a weapon class with a Hero Power you can't use when you're building around weapons and that's always been annoying me.
Argent Watchmen should be a 2 mana 3/6 or even 4/6, or should be buffed to 1 mana 3/4 in Caverns of Time. Better miracle salesman. Go to the moon, 0 mana 2/3 for even decks (with charge)
The argent watchmen was a good useless card to throw to play against Rafaam in the solo adventure when he steals your deck. And being a rare, it feeds/buffs the spear the player gets
My favorite obscure, unusable card is Proving Grounds, personally. what is the use case for this card? like what were they intending it to do, I guess summon two deathrattles to maybe die? I used it in a dumb deck where I summoned two Troll Centurions to deal 16 to the opponent's face because that's the only thing I could think of that's specifically enabled by it. but what were they cooking lol
To defend the inspire card, offensively, it's hot garbage. Defensively, more interesting. Opponent plays Bloodfen Raptor, I play Argent Watchman, and now there's a mindgame; if I have nothing better to do, I can clear the 3/2, leave myself with an atrocious 2/1, but still, a 2/1. So, it might be better for my opponent to overpay to remove the bad minion, even if I'm not intending on Hero Powering.
Argent Watchman isn't overly specific (using your hero power happens all the time), it is just bad. All this downside for 1 extra health? The card would be good with enough stats but 2/4 is just a joke.
EMP Operative makes sense. Golakka Crawler destroys a tribe that has low cost minions. EMP Operative not only can destroy high cost cards, Magnetize is also a unique Mech thing so it's also possible more Mana was spent to buff a Mech, making EMP Operative's Battlecry even stronger. In order for the tech card to not be a blowout they made its cost high.
That 9 mana 10/10 charge can't attack. Literal waste. No minion tribe, its a legendary?? (sucks if you open it from a pack) People will play this one time for one giggle and never seen again
It made sense when it came out, since Rush wasn't a thing and wouldn't be for another three years. Still terrible, but it makes more sense as a legendary.
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Me when I'm an oddly specific card competition and my opponent is a Yugioh card
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Absolutely amazing!
As someone who played Yu-Gi-Oh!, I approve of this joke
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Yeah, thats like every other card
Linear equation cannon is my favourite of those
Small world my beloved
EMP Operative definitely should've been "Silence and Destroy a Mech". Some mechs had deathrattles, so adding the silence effect would make the EMP Operative be a catch-all remove-a-mech solution, but even then, it would've have been very good.
Agrees. I always thought the same
could take it one step higher: Battlecry: silence a minion, if it's a mech, destroy it.
tha'd also help justify the high cost of 5 mana for such a specific removal piece
Words cannot describe how much I hate that Deathaxe Punisher is holding an Arcanite Reaper yet doesn't have 5 attack
😂 and it so could too
On your point about Crimson Expanse and its ties to Demon Hunter, I wish that Dormant was more strongly defined in its class identity. It just makes so much sense from a flavour perspective for a class with the literal mechanic of Outcast to have their minions being uninteractable for some time after they are summoned, especially given how Illidan was imprisoned (thus Dormant) for 10000 years.
Yeah, Dormant has always been in a wierd spot in HS, because they know it's a good enough keyword to not leave abandoned like other set exclusive keywords, but it's flavor is so narrow that most of the time, only DH & Warlock feel thematic for it.
I think half the time you forgot what the word 'specific' means. Both Crimson Expanse and Argent Watchman are just generically bad cards, but nothing is really 'specific' about them. Both damaged minions and hero powers are just things that happen organically in almost every match. A good fit for the list would have been Skulking Gheist, who was made specifically to target Jade Druids. Or either of the Hemet Nesingwary's (IIRC one kills a beast, and the other destroys all cards in your deck that cost 3 or less).
I feel betrayed by the title of the video
Could also add Star Aligner to this list. Atleast this card is obviously a meme and its name speaks for itself
Star Aligner stronger than every card I included! Its a great way when talking about how specific it is 📝
It was tier one deck for some time
@@SentenceToDESU Star Aligner made Aviana be nerfed
Star aligner is the best meme because it was actually decent to good at different times
star aligned was good, these never were
Dormant makes sense for Demon Hunters because their whole flavor is trapping the souls of demons to use them.
Yea I suppose!
and the demon hunters themselves start in prison
TEN THOUSAND YEARS!
Are there not multiple "dormant for 1 turn/this happens next turn" cards for DH? Seems in flavor to me.
Why isn't the number 1 Rend Blackhand?
Great example
because he was actually playable - holding a dragon in your hand is not a condition, and legendaries are always common on the board, especially in some metas.
@@PeterZaitcevAnd 8/4 is such a great statline for just 7 mana!
@@PeterZaitcev nah he never was playable even during blackrock mountain
I was talking about this days ago with a friend we concluded that Rend is probably the most specific and one the worst cards in the game because of that.
If EMP Operative had been 2 mana, gain +1/+1, like the entire Golakka cycle, it absolutely would have seen a ton of play in Wild over the years. There's been a LOT of metas where mechs need to die, like before Mechwarper got nerfed and, uh, right now, with Unkilliax ruining lives. In fact, if it read "silence and destroy a Mech" it would probably be playable right now at 5 mana just to counter Unkilliax (a version of Zilliax that was recently released that is incredibly sticky and hard to remove without healing your opponent for 16 or more.
Yea a mech version of gollaka would have slapped
@@JordanMG I was shocked they didn't release one with Perils with all the new minion types and all the callbacks they made in that set and Whizbang. Maybe they were just waiting for Draenei.
Ice cream peddler always sticks out to me
Ooh good shout
That one actually saw play in some builds of Wild Shudderwock Shaman
@@mikef5951 yep he was meta in freeeze shudder for infinite armor gain and taking the opponent hostage
there's a minion that's like "Battlecry: If you're holding a 4-cost card in your hand, deal 4 damage" or something like that, which is super specific, inconsistent and unnecessary for mediocre stats
One I was surprised not to see on here is Dragonslayer, a neutral 3 mana 4/3 common from K&C with Battlecry: Deal 6 damage to a Dragon and the flavor text "A pair of stout dwarves nearly averted the Cataclysm."
A few other cards:
Rend Blackhand - battlecry: if you're holding a dragon, destroy a legendary minion
Defias Cleaner - battlecry: silence a minion with deathrattle
Grimtotem Bounty Hunter - battlecry: destroy an enemy legendary minion
Lil' Exorcist - battlecry: gain +1/+1 for each enemy deathrattle minion
Grimtotem Buzzkill - battlecry: discard a weapon to draw 3 cards
Ice Cream Peddler - battlecry: if you control a frozen minion, gain 8 armor
Bayfin Bodybuilder - after a minion is summoned for your opponent on your turn, silence and destroy it
Fight Promoter - battlecry: if you control a minion with 6 or more health, draw 2 cards
Selfless Sidekick - battlecry: equip a random weapon from your deck
Wicked Skeleton - battlecry: gain +1/+1 for each minion that died this turn
I don't think any of these cards saw play when they were in standard, but I could be wrong
Rastakan offering (i think it was the name): at the start of your turn destroy this and gain 8 armor 💀
@ gurubashi offering
Inspire was from a time when hero powers were supposed to be a strong thing you did every couple turns. And yet half the inspire cards weren't good. It's like how joust could have been good but a lot of the pieces were built opposite how you wanted.
I'm glad to see how often MarkMckz is referenced in your videos for actual use cases. Lol
He out here using all the garbage cards
@@nickjoseph77 hero powers were never good plays, ever. maybe the warlock one but that's it
Being dormant for one turn decreases the combo potential of crimson expanse in one way but in another way it makes the combo potential really strong since it guarantees the minion will be on board at the start of your next turn, allowing for >10 mana combinations before turn 10.
Well it would allow >10 mana combinations without dormant too 😅 it would just be busted
If DeathAxe Punisher wasn’t an EPIC card. Maybe Idda thought about using it in a deck cause I love love the 3/4 hound.
I climbed to legend with Crimson Expanse a few times, back when there was that naga that could cheat out an Illidari, and All Fel Breaks Loose. Crimson was really good for that.
yea it managed to see play, despite the specific effect!
I'm going to add Azerite Elemental, Against all Odds, Dread Raven, Grimtotem Buzzkill, The Lobotomizer, Posse Possession, and Master of Ceremonies to this list
While Furnace elemental is weird, Warrior got Forge of Souls in the same set I believe, and and Charge also existed in wild. While not consistent I remembet it being a funny otk
Currently theres a bomb deck running Crimson Expanse and Carnivorous Cubicle to summon many more copies of testing dummies and safety experts thats pretty fun to play.
Sounds fun
My current deck😊
I've been playing hearthstone for 11 years and I never knew the silence a demon minion existed lol. Literally never seen or opened it
One very fun overly specific card is Grave Shambler. It can be a +1 Attack Yeti if you destroy a weapon and then it threatens to get +1/+1 if it lives like 2 turns. Compared to like Hench Clan Thug, this card is atrocious. Love me some of those KoFT weapon synergy cards.
Why EMP Operative over Hemet Nesingwary?
Also shocked Ice Cream Vendor isn't even on the list. That card's like the king of overly specific trigger conditions.
Forget Hemet, Rend Blackhand is the king of obscure removal minions. Only kills legendaries, bad stats for cost, AND requires a dragon in hand to even kill said legendary.
ice cream peddler was used in shudder shaman in wild for a while. You could gain an obscene amount of armor and just deny your opponent any form of winning
Everyone knows Hemet because it’s memed all the time
Can't believe Rend Blackhand didn't make this list. 2 conditions on a battlecry?? And that statline??
Great video! Hope it becomes a series
If it does, Rend is up next 😂
15:37 equip a wandom weapon
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I know this game since 2014, i left like 2 years, and watching this video is how i knew about the existence of Deathaxe.
If you do this again, a good one is Roosting Gargoyle. That's neutral 2 mana 2/3 from Castle Nathria that gives a Beast +2 attack. That's one of the most "Huh?" cards in recent memory. It's not even a Beast itself. Why was that made?
I thought you were gonna add that piggy with death rattle 7 of them to equip that south park weapon
this video ended up with a bit of "theyre bad because they specific vibe" so it didnt cross my mind - that card is definitely one of a kind!
Remember when the curator was a meta defying card. That card aged like milk
Hey Jordan, loved the video! Also your question about the dormant for 1 turn thing being a demon hunter thing, here’s my take on it (although I agree it’s weird)
Demon hunter came out in Ashes of Outland, the same set as most of the dormant for 2 turns cards (you mentioned antaen and magtheridon). But also lore wise, demon hunters were magically imprisoned (they were essentially dormant) and they have an ability in wow that imprisons enemies like they were (making them dormant)
Idk that’s just my thought on it. Thanks for highlighting a bunch of cards i definitely forgot about
Cards you forgot about? 🤔🤔
for the 4th card, the punisher ironically, I'm just imagining playing at that time being f2p, you finally see there's an epic card in one of your packs and you get super hyped. Then you flip it over and it's that garbage card. Reminds me of how the only legendaries I opened back in the day were gvg Hemet and Boogeyman, I am not joking.
same idea goes for the other epics. I guess it was called boogeymonster but whatever. Also I remember opening that trash legendary that's like a 7/7 for 8 that gained +1/+1 at the start of your turn or something like that, no idea what it's called but this was around the time that the 7/7 for 4 got printed smh. Why do they make so many terrible legendary cards?
shout out to Gruul
@@simonappel2599 Gruul was pretty ok back then, especially for a F2P, he just got powercrept a tad fast
Gruul wasn't good even when only the base set was out
E.M.P Operative saw play in tournaments
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Uh oh
Yeah but thats open decklist
when?
@@520_metal around Rise of shadows
I played lifesteal in Deathstalker rexxar. I used to run a single copy of deathaxe punisher because I had no other cards.
Dormant usually (in flavor) refers to things sleeping or locked/chained. So in crimson expanse. It's kinda like frankenstein. Make another copy, but ya gotta revive it for next turn.
Deathaxe punisher could be interesting if they lowered the mana cost and made it blood dk card. Maybe they could rework it to say "give a random lifesteal weapon in your hand +2+1" or something.
Ooooh, just noticed the yeti in the art!
Deathaxe Punisher is pretty cool in conjunction with High Priestess Jeklik.
The new priest epic 4 mana 4/2 also fits in this video
Crimson Expanse has synergies with Charge and indeed, DH cards that have an effect upon awakening.
I remember playing Wailing Soul in silence priest with decktracker and checking the site for stats later. There were days it has 100% winrate because I won 1 the single game I played that day
Dormant is kinda a demon hunter thing, think of Illidan lore and being “dormant” (imprisoned) for 10K years, also dormant was introduced with Ashes alongside DH, and actually a 3rd thing DH has been mentioned along side crystals multiple times, soul shards in Scholomance, soul fragments from the DH weapon in March, I’m sure there more like you could say a crystal/gem could be a type of relic. Overall I think flavor wise it fits really well,
Maybe the point of the life steal hand buff, is if you want to focus on lifesteal minions, and you you keep that You can ensure one of your lifesteals gets the buff
That's all I can think of
Emp operative was at least a card that has a clear use and was put into the set with a reason in mind. "Oh if these mechs cause a problem then we have some safety valve in place for it"
Argent Watchman could have been a good card but it suffered from GvG/early Hearthstone problems of just being too weak. If it was a 5/5 for 2 with that stat line it might have been okay to put generically into a deck but might have made Watcher/Handlock Warlock too strong in that era.
"Crimson Expanse"
~Cleary never watched Dane playing Grumbo Warrior...
That name speaks for itself 😂🔥
Grimy Gadgeteer was buffed in Caverns of Time, it was 4 mana before
I really like these random cards. I'm not a huge fan of every expansion having a pre-built deck for every class when it could be more random cool cards to experiment with and find your own combos with.
I agree. I doubt theyll switch back but it seems like they make decks more than cards now a days. Although theres examples of really old sets where that ended up being true anyway so who knows
Stormwind Avenger is such an odd card
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@@JordanMG all of it's stats are odd, and it's effect can't make it's attack even
Cool video, i'm waiting for the next part
It will come :)
I use furnacefire colossus in my E.T.C in my Spectral Cutlass deck ! Since i generate a lot of random cards, i tend to generate weapons. And since i have a lot of card draw, they tend to brick my hand. I don't use furnace colossus for its stat, but to free up my hand !
😂 sounds like a good time
Not even mention of star aligner? The only overly specific card that actually worked and created a combo
nutty card
These basically all have one extra line or phrase that makes it super niche
If you make this a series i will watch every single video pinky promise. I can never get enough of shitting on bad cards in card games.
I'd watch a 1 hour video about how bad Silverback is compared to other options
Noted 😂
The clip with solem reminded me i have no idea how hes doing. He was like the primordial rarran.
This is the most disrespectful thing anyone’s ever said about rarran 😂😂
@JordanMG it has been years since I've even thought about solem. Was solem not the biggest hs youtuber for like a year? Also, did he do something wrong?
Apparently he became a cryptobro and an Andrew Tate stan. Enlightening stuff. How did I not hear about this.
I thought the number 1 would be that legendary card which reads: "If you're holding a dragon destroy a legendary minion". Is giga specific
this isn't a top 7 list - if this does well i'll include that in the next one - wish I thought of it!
I'm surprised that you didn't mention voidcaller when talking about light's champion. It seems the developers thought it would be a "perfect" answer to a 4 mana 3/4 deathrattle demon, thoigh of course it wasnt since everyone just used ironbeak owl.
9:00 let bro cook 🔥
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Deathaxe could be buffed to a 4/5 and it would STILL never see play
Hell, probably the same for Argent watchmen
Strictly better ancient watcher would obviously see play, what are you talking about?
@@motymurm My Brother in Christ what meta are you living in? No-one plays Ancient Watcher.
They dropped a 4 mana 7/7 Taunt w no attack and it saw hyper niche play. No one is going to play a 4/5 for 2 mana that requires more mana to attack
I think there could be a bit more optimism, but honestly I would love to see more of this,
Lots of neat... but ultimately useless cards in HS and some of them need to be shown off as an option for a off-meta deck
OF COURSE Mark is in this video lol.
If there would ever be a crad that benefits from dormand or that you would want to get on board for later turns without risking to have it being removed next turn crimson expance could suddenly turn into a great card for that. But I doubt that will happen as hearthstone is not moving towards a slow enough format for such things.
Furnacefire should have said:
Eat all weapons in your hand and gain their stats. For each weapon consumed, draw a card.
Then atleast, it wouldn't dismantle your handsize.
I think Nozdormu would fit well in this video
“This is a rexxar card this isn’t real” god that got me laughing
😂
EMP Operative actually saw play lol
Wow
Where?
I honestly believe that they could put Nexus Champion Saraad as a 5m 5/5 and Inspire: Discover a spell. And it still wouldn’t see play in wild.
Competitive play yea, it sees fun play sometimes
Furnacefire colossus would have been interesting if it also gave the keywords of the weapons.
What about the hunter spell. For 3 mana, deal 3 damages, next spell has +2 spell damage. Very odd in hunter.
Fits the spell SMOrc theme sorta I guess 🤔
If deathaxe punisher would also heal you for the attack of the minion it buffed, it might justify its existence.
That would be good yea
0:26 meme counterpoint: Mark once used it to destroy his own minion. Which one? forgor. When? i feel like a week or so after it came out.
->later into the video, most gameplay about these cards is either so old yt was decent with the amount of ads or is a convoluted Mark combo
Dude i love crimson expanse
Yea its cool
My theory is that Deathaxe Punisher gave a random minion in your hand lifesteal and +2/+2 but it ended up being too strong so they nerfed it to what it is.
Interesting!
Not sure what that card name’s is, but paladin got a 3 mana 3/3 that hand buffs your minions and has a weird condition. I’d argue it belongs here. It’s from PiP
Furnace fire otk decks are fun
Certainly looked like it
I really wish Shadow Word Forbid would destroy ALL 4 attack minions (wherever they are)
LOL please let me destroy theotars everywhere
desert obelisk, defias cleaner
that random mech hunter support in galakronds awakening.
why is there like 7 tech cards in descent of dragons
Sometimes i like when they make cards for the memes.
Jordan winning games with Shadow Word Forbid in his deck, card clearly broken
Now the new 42 health card should make this list
The...the what!!
@@JordanMG mystified To’cha
I'm convinced Argent Watchman was suppose to be 1 mana then they thought it would be too op so put it at 2 to kill it cause it being the same cost as the hero power makes 0 sense
Maybe, that's a great theory 🤔
Furnacefire Collossus feels like a card that was designed for decks that run too many weapons that clog their hand up with them or such, but it has many problems:
- The high cost and big stats make it too weak to removal while making the weapon stats not as relevant as they would be on a smaller, cheaper minion.
- You discard ALL weapons FROM HAND. If you run lots of weapons but have one you care about equipping in hand, playing it takes precedence over this clunky minion and any weapon you might be holding is wasted.
These issues are problems a card Shadestone Skulker doesn't have, which is also a sort of "weapon declogger" in a different way. I wish these design ideas were touched on more in Rogue, as it is a weapon class with a Hero Power you can't use when you're building around weapons and that's always been annoying me.
I guess for that prince dude who has infinite infuse
Crimson Expanse synergizes with the current standard mech/deathrattle warrior...
to massive success surely
My boy Chump!
Argent Watchmen should be a 2 mana 3/6 or even 4/6, or should be buffed to 1 mana 3/4 in Caverns of Time. Better miracle salesman. Go to the moon, 0 mana 2/3 for even decks (with charge)
The argent watchmen was a good useless card to throw to play against Rafaam in the solo adventure when he steals your deck. And being a rare, it feeds/buffs the spear the player gets
My favorite obscure, unusable card is Proving Grounds, personally.
what is the use case for this card? like what were they intending it to do, I guess summon two deathrattles to maybe die?
I used it in a dumb deck where I summoned two Troll Centurions to deal 16 to the opponent's face because that's the only thing I could think of that's specifically enabled by it. but what were they cooking lol
Mechathun and poisonous minion is the only thing I've seen been done 😂
I wonder where skulking geist is. It was specifically made to destroy jade idol. Nothing else
Ew, even that 5 cost 3/3 destroy mech is an epic. 1/4th for card disenchanting love it
“Demon hunter isn’t real” God I wish
😂
Actually, only light's champion and EMP Operative are realy odd
The other ones are even
REND BLACKHAND
Yea if I do this again that's a perfect card
To defend the inspire card, offensively, it's hot garbage. Defensively, more interesting. Opponent plays Bloodfen Raptor, I play Argent Watchman, and now there's a mindgame; if I have nothing better to do, I can clear the 3/2, leave myself with an atrocious 2/1, but still, a 2/1. So, it might be better for my opponent to overpay to remove the bad minion, even if I'm not intending on Hero Powering.
i mean sure - the 4th health is the only thing its got going for it
13:43 did I hear runescape?
Can you define what you mean by specific? Argent Watchmen is a very bad card but I don't see how its specific
Gotta hero power to make the card textless
Argent Watchman isn't overly specific (using your hero power happens all the time), it is just bad. All this downside for 1 extra health? The card would be good with enough stats but 2/4 is just a joke.
EMP Operative makes sense. Golakka Crawler destroys a tribe that has low cost minions. EMP Operative not only can destroy high cost cards, Magnetize is also a unique Mech thing so it's also possible more Mana was spent to buff a Mech, making EMP Operative's Battlecry even stronger. In order for the tech card to not be a blowout they made its cost high.
1:46 39k DUST????
I finally just hit the button I stopped caring enough to min-max
Oh, I forgot to comment...
That 9 mana 10/10 charge can't attack. Literal waste. No minion tribe, its a legendary?? (sucks if you open it from a pack) People will play this one time for one giggle and never seen again
It made sense when it came out, since Rush wasn't a thing and wouldn't be for another three years. Still terrible, but it makes more sense as a legendary.
Ah, you mean Icehowl from TGT.
no star aligner is evil...
Star Aligner gets away with it because its whole flavour is that it triggers when the stars align.
I thought about it - that card was super broken 😂