2013-2020 Lexus GS 350 Buyer’s Guide - Reliability & Common Problems

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  • @MeynMotorGroup
    @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

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    • @QuincyTones
      @QuincyTones 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Although it’s just an Okay car! Beware it’s not all that good. I’ve had exhaust manifold issues, a/c going bad which was a pressure switch and at 100k had to change that out. It’s not always as it seems so just make sure you get a good one. I’ve put in 12k plus due to issues. Car looks nice but overrated and I actually own this car. If you get one find low miles otherwise if you want speed and reliability you can get another brand personally

  • @toxicmeatball2739
    @toxicmeatball2739 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I have a 2014 GS350 RWD. Owned it since new, I have 84k miles. I have had every service done at the dealer. I love this car, it still looks and drives as I did when it was new. I have had a total of three issues besides the fuel pump recall which the dealer fixed for free.
    1.) the passenger side door actuator went out in 2022. Bought the part online and fixed it myself. Less than $200.00
    2.) the clock on the dash stopped working last year. Dealer wanted $700 to fix. I bought the OE clock online and replaced it myself in less than 30 min. I spent $230.00
    3.) Lexus uses a cable system to open and close the sunroof. Over time the cable tend to stretch and sag. The loose cable doesn’t affect the operation of the sunroof but rather the loose cables kind of bounce or vibrate off the sheet metal creating a noise. In 2018 the dealer replaced the cables at no charge.
    Mechanically, the car has been excellent. I wish the GS platform continued on because I would be buying a new one about now and handing the 2014 down to my oldest kid. I would enthusiastically recommend the Lexus GS350 to anyone who asked
    Great video

    • @jcbernal3991
      @jcbernal3991 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is the induction sound?

  • @brian7523
    @brian7523 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    ❤A lovely review once again Kevin.
    I own a 2013 Gs350 RWD and leased it brand new but at the end of the lease I just bought it out since it was so reliable and comfortable.
    I have had the vehicle now for 11 years and it has been pure bliss, what an amazing vehicle. The eccelaration is effortlessly smooth, the induction sound is to die for when you wanna play a little and as a family of 4, the space is more than enough for long trips.
    My vehicle is @ about 87000miles because I drive maybe about 8000miles a year.
    Fortunately I am able to do my own maintenance.
    1. Oill & Filter changes every 6months or 3000 - 4000miles with 0w30 synthetic oil.
    2. Spark plugs every 65000miles.
    3. ATF, Fuel filter & Coolant drain and fill every 5years
    4. Brake fluid & Differential oil every 3years.
    5. Clean my MAF sensor and throttle body every year.
    I have used only premium fuel and all the fluids and parts I buy oem, no compromise.
    I don't wanna lie but the vehicle continues to look after my family.
    From South Africa.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's awesome my friend yup you did all the right things with your vehicle, leased it new to test if it will be a car you like and if it's a reliable car and not a lemon, you did proper maintenance and used premium fuel, you also don't drive a trillion miles a year so this car has already lasted you 11 years and you can squeeze plenty more since you're such a great owner. You have def got your moneys worth and you will continue to, massive congrats!

    • @brian7523
      @brian7523 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MeynMotorGroup thanks a million my man. I do my best to keep my vehicles in good shape because I turn to keep my vehicles for a long time.

    • @three36ixx
      @three36ixx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you can stretch the oil changes to 5k or 1 year.
      spark plugs from denso are rated for 100k miles

    • @brian7523
      @brian7523 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@three36ixx thanks for the advice, but my thing is, oil is cheap but engines aren't, plus on the other hand it gives me a chance to go under the vehicle and inspect the vehicle twice a year.
      I can only push the spark plugs to 100k and that will be my max.
      Thanks a million

    • @rayng8932
      @rayng8932 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My 2013 has 175K miles and still runs great.

  • @FalconMidget
    @FalconMidget 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I bought a 2013 GS base for sale by owner with 69k miles for 18k last week and I cannot believe the build quality on these cars. I’ve watched pretty much all your videos on these cars and so far you’ve been spot on. This car is amazing to drive. I just wished it was a little faster but it’s still has the power when you need it. I love this car so much I’m considering buying a daily driver and just driving the Lexus on weekends.

    • @Unplugged704
      @Unplugged704 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good to hear!
      Looking at GS also. Seeing 15’ Crafted Line with 200K, asking $9000.
      Owner says “drives great!”
      Thinking…🤔🤔 great value for the car

  • @little123456788
    @little123456788 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    The only issue I had with my 2019 GS 350 was a small leak in my rear diff which the dealer fixed under warranty. It's been a rock solid reliable vehicle 👌

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gotcha that's very good to hear my friend so happy that you have this car it's truly a special daily driver

    • @jchung5265
      @jchung5265 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I got my 17 gs350awd Fsport with 20kmiles, added 25k to that without a glitch. Only used top tier premium gas. It’s the best sedan for a retiree like me😊

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jchung5265very happy to hear you’re using premium fuel!

    • @QuincyTones
      @QuincyTones 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Although it’s just an Okay car! Beware it’s not all that good. I’ve had exhaust manifold issues, a/c going bad which was a pressure switch and at 100k had to change that out. It’s not always as it seems so just make sure you get a good one. I’ve put in 12k plus due to issues. Car looks nice but overrated and I actually own this car. If you get one find low miles otherwise if you want speed and reliability you can get another brand personally

    • @wildboar3
      @wildboar3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@QuincyToneswhat the heck have you spent 12k on?

  • @TamPham-rv9qn
    @TamPham-rv9qn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I have 2018 Gs350 f sport with over 177k miles. I didn't have to fix anything but I'm facing with ridiculously amount of rattle when it turned 75k miles. I completely torn down the interior to fix the rattle. Beside rattling issues, this car is extremely reliable if it get basic maintenances.

    • @manuelvargas-mg9qj
      @manuelvargas-mg9qj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did it fix the rattling issue ?

    • @salmanddj
      @salmanddj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      where is the rattle coming from I have 2018 awd fsport

    • @metal571
      @metal571 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of the common ones I just fixed in my 2013 comes from the door mounted window switch controls. You can remove that trim piece and the controls come out with it. Then add some tape to force the two main clipped in pieces together. As far as I know, this persists all the way through the 2020 model. Crazy

    • @andyle3693
      @andyle3693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      2 rattles that are easy to fix- 1. Driver side door switch rattle. Fix: take off the window switch panel and wrap the inner perimeter with electrical tape. 2. Sunroof rattle when going over certain bumps at low speeds. Sounds like rear suspension or bushings. Fix: sunroof rubber seal replacement. Readjust the 4 screws that line up the sunroof. Lube and realign the sunroof cover.

    • @asav1976
      @asav1976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Check sunroof seal.

  • @joseCalderon1976
    @joseCalderon1976 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I bought the cheapest GS 350 in my area for $13k because it has 187k miles. The engine, transmission and interior are mint. The exterior has its issues, but you really have to look closely. It is drives like a new car.

    • @DameNunnjr
      @DameNunnjr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Got mine 13k 102500 mile’s tan seats

    • @joseCalderon1976
      @joseCalderon1976 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DameNunnjrWow. That's an even better deal. I love my GS 350. We've only out like 4k miles on it. My wife drives it to work and takes the kids to school close by. We use it mainly on the weekends.

    • @buddah5107
      @buddah5107 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joseCalderon1976what year and I might get this black 13 gs350 for 16k with 96k 2 owners with 24 service history been contemplating between that and a silver 2006 infiniti m35 with 113k for 7k 1 owner with 29 service history

    • @MichaelSchwab-nk4rm
      @MichaelSchwab-nk4rm 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@buddah5107meeeh. You'll like the Lexus so much more. Don't take my word for it. Go test drive one

  • @claywilson267
    @claywilson267 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Checking in with a 2013 GS350 F-Sport, 200k on the odometer. Never had to fix anything that wasn’t caused by me or routine maintenance. Runs like a champ and I love it more and more everyday after 5 years of ownership. Timeless piece that’s becoming rarer by the day and holding value EXCEPTIONALLY well.

  • @Al13n1nV8D3R
    @Al13n1nV8D3R 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I owned a 2013 GS 350 Rwd Ultra Luxury Model with every option. And that was a wonderful reliable car. Drove it to about 168,000 without any issues besides oil and tires. And other maintenance items. Then i got into a wreck. I used the insurance money to buy a 2020 GS 350 RWD Ultra Luxury and it rode different for what whatever reason it was not as sharp to steer and not as smooth while driving my 2013 model felt like i was riding on glass regardless of road conditions. Keep in mind i bought both the 2013 and 2020 GS's brand new. This newer on felt less so. But on the up side the engine in the 2020 model felt smoother while reving the engine out. Still miss my 2013 GS.

    • @smooth_ops2942
      @smooth_ops2942 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Beginning in 2016 they went with a softer approach on the suspension for a more comfortable ride quality vs the former sportier feel.

    • @chexmoto
      @chexmoto 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i think i basically have the same model as you, missing heated steering and a couple other things, but the 2013 felt brash in a good way, and feels like a drivers car. Coming from a Mazda 6 with a manual, its still pretty fun to chuck around, and eats up miles like its candy.

  • @Sezro
    @Sezro 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I have a 2013 and have had no issues with mine. I bought it used in 2019. I've only done scheduled maintenance. Had the battery changed once. I would recommend it if anyone wants a reliable luxury car. My interior and exterior still looks new. With interior holding up over the years most cases it's just a reflection of how the passengers treat their car.

    • @JDYTC
      @JDYTC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did the battery change cost, if I may ask?

    • @Sezro
      @Sezro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JDYTC it was $249. Nothing too expensive.

    • @JDYTC
      @JDYTC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sezro 😮 Wow 👍

  • @ZealotChemist
    @ZealotChemist 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Dude I just a 2016 GS so this vid is perfect. I watched a couple of your other vids on the GS before buying mine to inform me. Thank you for your work. I love this car.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great to hear! I'm glad this content can be of value you

  • @newyorkconservative
    @newyorkconservative 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I own a 2015 GS 350 F Sport AWD. Bought it in 2019 with 8k miles on it. The only thing i've done to the car besides oil changes, is change the breaks and change the battery once. Other than that the car has been very reliable.

  • @KingMatt1
    @KingMatt1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My ‘13 GS literally had no issues. Bought it at 55K and traded it in with 80K miles

    • @datazndood
      @datazndood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      25k of ownership isn’t much data but why trade in curious. Most Lexus owners keep for at least a decade unless you jump cars every lease or few years.

    • @KingMatt1
      @KingMatt1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@datazndood wanted something newer, but car rode like a dream at 10 years old with 80K miles. Says a lot about the quality of Lexus

  • @ScottyCammac
    @ScottyCammac 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drove mine to Toronto to Florabama and back. No issues, got 410 miles/656kms to the tank. Power, comfort, safety. Love my GS.

    • @AmericanAristo
      @AmericanAristo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      410 Miles??? How?? I only get about 275

  • @Kevin27182
    @Kevin27182 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My 13 GS f sport awd is going strong and I’m still having a great time with it

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice! Great to hear my friend these are def some fun daily drivers 👍

  • @alpappalardi7044
    @alpappalardi7044 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have had 3 consecutive Gs F Sports. 2015, 2018, and the last send off edition ,2020 Black line . The last is a keeper and its only issue is a brake squeak while in reverse . Coming from two Cadillacs that ended in NYS lemon law refunds. I couldn’t have been any happier in the transaction. Such a solid great car that also never became outdated looking . Currently the Blackline edition is sort out by the dealers . But they think we are just mis informed consumers. The value of it today is very high. But this is staying in my garage and always premium fuel.
    Great review. And always great to get others feedback

    • @QuincyTones
      @QuincyTones 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Car overrated

    • @QuincyTones
      @QuincyTones 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I actually own this car. It’s not fast and repairs are expensive af

    • @MichaelSchwab-nk4rm
      @MichaelSchwab-nk4rm 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@QuincyTonesRetarded BOT Comment👆🏻🥴🤡

  • @warrenhamer6081
    @warrenhamer6081 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello from Johannesburg, South Africa. Thanks for your excellent positive reviews on the GS350. Since 2019 I’ve owned a 2015 f-sport version which has covered 170,000 km (106,000 miles). It’s been an amazingly fun daily ride and very reliable. Lexus is a highly underrated brand in SA and used models are a bargain. Also, because they’re fairly rare on our roads, they don’t get stolen often. Unfortunately this is a consideration when buying a car in SA.. The only major issue I’ve with this awesome vehicle was the replacement of the front suspension kit as it started making noises at 150,000 km (93,000 miles). Apart from that, trouble free! My only other issue has not been the cars fault, but the state of our pot holed roads in Johannesburg. I’ve had to replace several low profile tyres and fix rims over the years as it’s so hard to dodge them all.. particularly at night. Anyway it keeps you more alert when driving our technically challenging tarmac 😅

  • @stephenr9002
    @stephenr9002 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love these videos. 13 GS350 F Sport Rwd owner here, 160k and smooth as ever. Nothing but fluid, brakes, tires, normal maintenance.
    F sport Rwd front 2 piece rotors are pricey so save up. Tires aren’t bad. Pro tip, Indy shop or Toyota dealership for cheaper service prices

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s awesome my friend and thanks so much for sharing the valuable tips!

    • @H8DUKE
      @H8DUKE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here. 13 F Sport.

  • @dxception826
    @dxception826 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 2014 GS 350 and it's awesome. It drives very smooth and is pretty quick and fun. The only issue I've noticed is that the car does tend to steer right ever so slightly. Besides that, the car has been amazing.

  • @michaelclark405
    @michaelclark405 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You give the best most detailed information when it comes to each automobile you cover, just became a subscriber !!

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for the sub! Really appreciate your love and support, I'm just glad this content is serving you well and you're getting value from it.

  • @Gimmithat491
    @Gimmithat491 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    6 speed trans is way more stout. People say it’s more reliable for a reason. The engineers put it in the awd gs350 and tundras and other large vehicles if not mistaken. Where there’s smoke there’s fire

  • @influenz1490
    @influenz1490 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2013 GS350, and all I've ever done is change the brakes, oil, spark plugs, and filters. 150k miles and still runs the same as when i got it.

  • @KrisNation
    @KrisNation 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Got a 2013 GS350 with the Luxury Package at 115k miles for 15.7k back in October of last year and I've loved every second of it. Previous owner took great care of it and I'm glad I got it. I was at a Lexus dealership 2 weeks before ready to sign the paperwork and get a 2014 ES350 and their systems went down so we had to reschedule. God wanted me in a GS350 instead lol

  • @TwoHawksHunting
    @TwoHawksHunting 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I own a 2013 Lexus GS F Sport. We have 67,000 miles. The car still looks good outside and inside. The only issue is there is a clunking sound from the rear when going over bumps. The Lexus dealer said there is no problem with the shocks. The 19 inch low profiles tires won't last past 25,000 miles and they do seem to provide a rougher ride on bas road surfaces. Otherwise, the car rides smooth and is comfortable on the highway. The only other issue is the brake dust on the front tires needs to be cleaned frequently. I rarely use the Sport + mode, but when I do, the car really screams and flys faster than I need to be driving.

    • @smooth_ops2942
      @smooth_ops2942 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The clunking noise your hearing is from your old sunroof seal, grab one online and swap it out yourself for $50-$75 as it's easy to do with many TH-cam tutorials.

    • @TwoHawksHunting
      @TwoHawksHunting 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@smooth_ops2942 Thanks. I'll look into that.

  • @chexmoto
    @chexmoto 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bought a 2013 GS Luxury Package about a year ago with 163k on the clock. It sits at 181k at the moment.
    No major issues, but I did flush and replace pretty much all the fluids, filters, spark plugs, couple of bulbs, two struts, door lock, just to get everything reset. It cost $13k initially, add another grand for dealer fees, and then another $2k for the struts, detint, and door lock replacement just to get it past an inspecrtion. All in all, I've spent an additional $4k refreshing the car, but it beats buying a brand new car in my case, and the recalls have all been taken care of.
    Next is probably bushings and looking at brakes since they are warped. Car wanders slightly on the highway but its not unsafe. Cosmetically, car is rough around the edges, lots of road rash, scratches, dents, you name it. The upholstery has some rips. But not bad for its age.
    High mileage ones that just got out from under their service schedule need some TLC when you first get your hands on them, but it has never left me stranded. Biggest hurdle right now is getting the transmission fluid gradually refreshed. Get a PPE, and keep some headroom for replacing parts. Its a great car, and very comfortable on the highway, where I'd argue is when its in its element.

  • @wesleychair9696
    @wesleychair9696 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I purchased a 2013 GS 350 in September 2023. It smoked upon startup, was previously repossessed and had 2 reported accidents but I went ahead and bought it. Luckily I got the extended warranty since it ended up needing an engine replacement due to bad piston rings that scored the engine wall. It was in the shop for a month and is in the shop again for a bad ECU. I should not have bought that car but I suspect that it suffered water damage.
    It’s on me for buying a bad car.
    However, this car is sooo worth it. BE WEARY OF ABUSE, cause parts are friggin pricy.

  • @mikeyoung00
    @mikeyoung00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    videos like this have driven up used prices on this great but somewhat rare GS 350s.

  • @hadenbighouse1002
    @hadenbighouse1002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for giving us pertinent ownership information instead of the redundant drivel a lot of other reviewers shove down our throats.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @abdulhasham5599
    @abdulhasham5599 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your knowledge is impressive and I really appreciate your honesty. Finally I found a channel which is AUTHENTIC!

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m glad the content was valuable my friend!

  • @LuckyWerewolf-yk6wo
    @LuckyWerewolf-yk6wo หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have nearly a 250k a es350 and only use premium. I maintain the hell out of it. Can't even hear the car idling. No major issues with driver terrain at all. At 221k I did replace shocks struts for the 2nd time and rebuilt the front end.

  • @chris2Agearreviews
    @chris2Agearreviews 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the videos....I been watching all the Lexus vehicle videos because I'm in the process of getting 1 from carmax. The main choices they have are a 2015 es 350 85k+ miles and a 2015 gs 125k+ miles and various diffrent Lexus with varying miles but mostly 70k or more......Your not lying because the banks car max use want $1000 down $550 a month for 72 months on the 2015 es 350......I may look at the lease option but i still cant wrap my head around it.....The Toyota Avalon the same price as a Lexus just to add that tidbit

  • @Aniki1111
    @Aniki1111 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is the kind of car that people like but nobody really buys, kinda like the land cruiser.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right it's also the car where nobody appreciates it until they stop making it. We have remnants of this still being sold as new like the IS & RC so this still kinda sorta lives on but yea nobody respects Lexus drivers cars not even the fanboys.

  • @charley95sheridan44
    @charley95sheridan44 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just posted a comment earlier but it didn't take for some reason. 18 F-Sport RWD owner I bought new with 14k on the clock to keep for the long haul. I daily drive my 14 RX and my GS has been superb. Zero problems so far and I just keep up on the PM's and use it only as a Sunday driver and just like to keep it detailed often since it's a Caviar/Red combo. For other service I take it to TH-camr Toyota specialist "The Car Care Nut". Next service with him will be the transmission fluid change this spring.

  • @timw2083
    @timw2083 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, your research is appreciated. My favorite used AWD vehicles right now are the QX70, GS350, and Legacy. It's hard being the second or third owner because you really don't unless the maintenance history is included.
    Well done

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Appreciate that sir! And yea those are some cool AWD choices for sure problem with the luxury cars is you have no idea if they used premium fuel or not 9/10 probably not

  • @danny12904
    @danny12904 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2018 Gs350 90,000 miles going strong!

  • @johnnyanderson3287
    @johnnyanderson3287 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Over $15K for cars over 150K miles = insanity

  • @gregbyrd4904
    @gregbyrd4904 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for all you information... love my 2017 GS 350

  • @shun2240
    @shun2240 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eyeing one of these in a few years, if it drops low enough, but it'll be a car that's 15 years old, definitely keeping it as a collection car

  • @Halfez248
    @Halfez248 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for making this video. Love all the 4GS videos!

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you like them!

  • @hatefanclub
    @hatefanclub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Biggest most expensive issue is the fan blower actuators fry and it’s a dash off job otherwise it’s a bulletproof car provided you maintain it

  • @Crypt0M0nkey
    @Crypt0M0nkey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guys I want to buy a used GS as a beater because of nostalgia of my younger days. I’m thinking of buying one before 2013… are those reliable?

  • @mohammedosman88
    @mohammedosman88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am currently saving to buy a house and I think the first thing that I will buy is a 2020 Lexus GS. I cant help how beautiful this car is in and out. Specs are also amazing . I cant wait😢

    • @raftermanhoward1883
      @raftermanhoward1883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey man, I've had a 2015 GS450h for years before I bought my house, but please don't deplete your savings right after buying a house. There WILL be things that cost a lot of money, and many of those things will be unforeseen. Getting yourself a relatively expensive car at the same time will really hurt the pleasure you get from it, and you will not know the car either. Just like the house, it might also show up with some hidden issues at the start.

    • @mohammedosman88
      @mohammedosman88 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@raftermanhoward1883 thanks bro

  • @khale5357
    @khale5357 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had 2013 until 2020 when someone rear ended me. No issues !! Have Model S now since I drive often but…. Used GS F might be next move lol

  • @dawnpoint
    @dawnpoint 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At least in my area, the GS seems to be less desirable than the IS and prices on the GS tend to be lower than comparable IS options.

  • @realjackiema
    @realjackiema 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Should I get a 2013 GS350 FSPORT with 162k miles? They are asking $13k.

    • @chadh1854
      @chadh1854 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get it inspected and enjoy!

  • @gugurlqk
    @gugurlqk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video! Great work 👍

  • @E.Z.Walker3693
    @E.Z.Walker3693 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a coworker with the 2013 And it’s been great

  • @tyjcx
    @tyjcx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im looking at buying a 2013 gs 350 awd f sport for $20k that is a 1 owner and 103k miles with service records, ive been looking to buy this car for months and this looks like a good deal to me even with its high mileage. What do you think?

  • @user-ki1vd3ti8j
    @user-ki1vd3ti8j หลายเดือนก่อน

    I ONLY put premium gas in my GS. I don't care how high the price of Gas has been sometimes. That I don't compromise

  • @said-ahmadsadat8903
    @said-ahmadsadat8903 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why did they stop making them? They are wonderful cars.

  • @George-ur8ow
    @George-ur8ow 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video! Have you (can you?) Make a video on common problems for the 3GS (2006-2011)? Much appreciated!

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      th-cam.com/video/clZV1iWCkrw/w-d-xo.html
      Hope this helps my friend

  • @commandertopgun
    @commandertopgun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow Meyn your factual reviews are impressive, ❤ your channel,

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you my friend, glad the content was valuable to you!

  • @mr.j-1592
    @mr.j-1592 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for all your information. Will definitely be watching some more videos. Keep up the good work.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad this content was valuable my friend!

  • @Unplugged704
    @Unplugged704 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GS better car than IS?

    • @tc3065
      @tc3065 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They share the same chassis but the GS had bigger back seats, also there are no IS450h😀

  • @terrykelly8982
    @terrykelly8982 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it worth it to look for one with the ML stereo & the heads up display? Did you ever drive one with rear wheel steering? I was wondering what your opinion of that option is.

  • @gimmeahellyeahH
    @gimmeahellyeahH 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey mayne, if you’re buying the first year of a new gen, would you do it for the first year of the new es? What did you think of the first year es of the outgoing model? I want an es so bad

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea just avoid the first model year of every car and go for a 2014 or 2015 ES

  • @trandyan
    @trandyan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do you think about the GS350 vs 4g TL or TLX in terms of performance/handling? In other words, which choice for a driver/enthusiast?

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I liked the way the TL drove a little more than the TLX, 4th Gen TL felt like a more substantial car TLX felt lighter on its toes the only one I liked was the A Spec V6 SH-AWD (TLX I’m referring to is from 2015-2020)
      GS vs TL I guess I would go GS as it’s RWD and has a better interior space

    • @xFactoryUSA
      @xFactoryUSA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both Honda products will need suspension bushings at 120k miles 😂 the transmission won’t nuke, but it will slip, jerk and buck til you finally get rid of it

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@xFactoryUSA yea I had a TSX in the past and from all my research, Honda products do seem to be more problematic although there’s always those owners with 700k miles and no issues always gotta bring that up

    • @neilquinn
      @neilquinn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Main thing to watch for on the TLX are all the complaints about the transmission. Tons of issues with it hunting gears or slamming into gears oddly

    • @blazerboiz5996
      @blazerboiz5996 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Owned both a 17 TLX v6 AWD and a 14 GS F sport. Lexus is a much better car.

  • @ttthatch
    @ttthatch 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2014 GS with 175k miles burns oil, unfortunately. I need to top off every 2,500 miles or so. I haven’t seen anyone else experience this. Maintenance wise, I have replaced the CV boots, an axel, and the radiator hose since I bought it with 160k miles. I also repaired a small leak in the differential.

    • @possession3929
      @possession3929 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same problem for me. at 130k, i burn 1 quart per 6k

    • @ttthatch
      @ttthatch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@possession3929 interesting. I’ve noticed it seems to burn more if I’m rougher on the car. Sometimes I accelerate very quickly off the line I will smell burnt oil. If I drive moderately I never smell anything.

  • @jkstdstang
    @jkstdstang 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video alot of valuable information!

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @lancewood1410
    @lancewood1410 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even in Malaysia, for a 2013 GS350(no longer qualified for financing) the price(USD25k) is consistently higher than the F10 535i (USD17k) and Merc E350/400(USD20k ish).

    • @feisikLetsPlay
      @feisikLetsPlay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but the f10 and merc will cost you in two years of ownership more than paying extra for the lexus with 5years of maintenance.

    • @lancewood1410
      @lancewood1410 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@feisikLetsPlay AND they will ALSO gives you CEL anxiety. I've owned an e90 330i and an F10 528i previously 🤣🤣🤣

    • @feisikLetsPlay
      @feisikLetsPlay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lancewood1410 yeah i owned e90 as well. Not bad. But its not super modern nor the old school biemer such as e36/e46 i have e46 328i coupe for fun and planning to buy gs450H for daily.

  • @e_yiizy
    @e_yiizy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A local dealership wants $44K OTD for a 2018 GS F-Sport with 31K miles on it...Great car but not at that price IMO. The market and loan rates aren't in my favor. Thanks for the info MMG!

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea that's ridiculous my friend you can pick up a brand new IS 350 F Sport from AutoCompanion for $46k-$48k with 0 miles 2024 model year. Used car market is a waste.

    • @ld4974
      @ld4974 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeynMotorGroup I've been test driving the IS and the GS. I don't think the swap is that simple, especially for anyone with some size on them. The IS is not easy to get out of. Much prefer the GS, but yes, used pricing is insane.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ld4974 IS actually has more headroom and legroom in the front compared to a GS according to the spec sheet.

    • @ld4974
      @ld4974 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeynMotorGroup Yeah, I was comfortable sitting in and driving the ones I test drove, but in each case getting out of the IS was not as fluid as with a bigger vehicle - for me. Good job on your videos. Very informative.

  • @LOLAtheDESTROYER
    @LOLAtheDESTROYER 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Major problem. Don’t ever park it front first down hill or on a driveway with a slope. The vehicle will spew water out of the dash when you drive. 3 months in the shop for an engineer from Lexus to say we don’t know why it does this everything is as it should be. This was on a 2016 certified vehicle. It’s a design flaw with the ac system.

    • @smooth_ops2942
      @smooth_ops2942 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm active in the Club Lexus forums and have never heard of this issue so must be a isolated case overall, sorry to hear your luck with it.

  • @MarcusAlami
    @MarcusAlami 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought my 2014 gs350 f sport bc of you

  • @MrSuperman90304
    @MrSuperman90304 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16 fsport awd. Climate door actuator/ motor broken. Need to Disassemble and replace asap. Thanks

  • @mrerick0363652
    @mrerick0363652 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2013 350 awd F sport and only 1 problem. The Amp. Only have 75,0000 miles on it

  • @RaulSanchez-mp4om
    @RaulSanchez-mp4om 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only issue I have with my 2014 Gs350 are the rattles in the cabin while driving. Those drive me nuts 😅

  • @timothydevries383
    @timothydevries383 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Old N Platform GS & LS are the best. Lexus will never be like that again.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is true. Your last bit of hope from a new Lexus is the IS, RC, and LC while they last which is not much longer

  • @alexgenc
    @alexgenc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should make a video for GSF as well

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      th-cam.com/video/C_1sWx0e2KM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CgyUDWe4jgYd9ntY
      Did a super detailed buyer’s guide on the RC F basically the same thing hopefully that video is of value to you my friend

    • @alexgenc
      @alexgenc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeynMotorGroup Oh ok, thanks. I do actually have a GSF myself and was wondering what you think about it

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@alexgenc it’s epic I would say hold on to it as long as you can. Actually many forget that the IS F was an amazing car especially for the time and how early it came out, RC F and GS F are just evolutions of the IS F and better still. An Invidia exhaust will really wake up the F cars

  • @Excalabur50
    @Excalabur50 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cheers Mr Lexus

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you my friend! Hope you are doing great

    • @Excalabur50
      @Excalabur50 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MeynMotorGroup Been a bit unlucky lately, my pc is down with multiple failures, and this morning my car key shit itself which is $250 to replace but other than that OK, what about you

  • @three36ixx
    @three36ixx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ask them to pull the ECM fuse before the test drives 🤣🤣
    so you reset the driveability learning

  • @R0ll_lex
    @R0ll_lex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the timing re seal ? Is that a common issue? I saw the cost can be over 5k

  • @AliHaider-mg9ei
    @AliHaider-mg9ei 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there built-in WiFi and 3G/4G cellular connection in Lexus GS 2013 ?

  • @neilquinn
    @neilquinn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do you think a fair price would be for a private party 2017 base AWD model w/ 95k miles or so if very clean? Seems dealer trade-in price has dropped quite a bit since earlier in the year but maybe tough to negotiate the used price still. He was asking 26.3k for it earlier in the year but still has it. Not sure how much I can talk him down or at what price point it would be worth it. Does have a 3rd party warranty on it for another 7 months which could help.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So to determine the value of any used car my friend, all you have to do is go to CarGurus how I showed in the video and manipulate the parameters to meet a 2017 GS 350 AWD and do a nationwide search.
      There’s only a handful of cars meeting those parameters but around $23k is what you should be paying with that type of mileage. Again, you can use CarGurus to determine the price of any car and search nationwide

    • @neilquinn
      @neilquinn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeynMotorGroup he was asking 26.5k but that was 6 months ago

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@neilquinn right so if you really want this individuals car, you can offer them $23k if they don’t want to budge you simply walk away and they can hold onto the car for another 6 months.

    • @neilquinn
      @neilquinn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeynMotorGroupyup. I need to test drive a similar one too soon to make sure I even like it. Worried it will ride kind of high

    • @blessed7fold
      @blessed7fold 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey neilquinn have you tried looking at different online listings for that year and milage?

  • @manchunleung6325
    @manchunleung6325 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cut that bull, the 6-speed is much better than the 8-speed. You can feel strong stutters while shift-up or down-shift to Gear 2 or 3, also it's not as responsive as the 6-speed ones. The most serious issue of this car is the KYB suspension leakage...

  • @الشيخبندر-ب9ه
    @الشيخبندر-ب9ه 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes I’m one of the guys who put regular fuel to my 2016 Ls460 😂

  • @DickNut
    @DickNut 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know about the engine timing issue? Or when the issue was resolved?

  • @morganfreeman4726
    @morganfreeman4726 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did the GS ever have a 6-disk CD changer like the IS?

  • @nidhinkuruvilla25
    @nidhinkuruvilla25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Currently cross shopping between the Lexus gs350 f sport and the Kia stinger. The Lexus’ I have my eye on are usually 2014-2016 (hence definitely out of warranty) and about 6-7k cheaper than the stingers, which are around 2018-2020 but these still have a year or two of warranty left over. Any opinions on driving dynamics, comfort, reliability and usability as a daily? Thanks everyone!

    • @Marcos-ll5fs
      @Marcos-ll5fs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I crossed shopped the same 2 vehicles almost 3 years ago. After reading how bad some Kia dealer experiences were and unpredictable reliability I went with the GS. I'm a little biased because I had a 2010 GS before getting my 2017. GS' are the best daily driver ever made in my opinion. Enough sport to be fun, luxurious, reliable, and not too bad on gas. Sure some cars are faster or have better mpg but they don't check all the boxes I've stated.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The only benefits Stinger has over the GS is it's significantly faster, has some leftover warranty as you mentioned, and interior *looks* more premium with more features but the GS will drive better, ride better, feel more substantial on the road, and despite not being as fast as the Stinger, the Engine sounds much better with the GS so overall a more exciting driving package and Interior will feel more solid than the Stinger despite it not looking as nice or modern. Most of all You will be tired of the Stinger after 6 months much like with most modern turds. Lexus GS, IS, RC, LC these cars you can drive for 10+ years and never feel bored of it.

    • @blazerboiz5996
      @blazerboiz5996 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One will have slightly better acceleration, the other is better in every other way.

  • @studywithdlove1313
    @studywithdlove1313 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2014 GS450h with 67k miles and it's a sleeper. Fully load with luxury package i can't find a car to replace it with.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea it’s almost impossible to find a GS 450h replacement it’s such an interesting concoction of power fuel efficiency handling and practicality just a really cool car and package

    • @studywithdlove1313
      @studywithdlove1313 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So does it offer V8 type power?, I'm confused with the misson of the GS450H, i was thinking of replacing it with an LS600HL

  • @SPETSNAZ1990
    @SPETSNAZ1990 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GS 300h Executive 2015 , Drove exactly 5 years from 25.000 km to 70.000 km
    i had 0 errors or parts replaced in 5 years! hybrid GS 300/450 is the best lexus!
    LS 500h AWD F-Sport 2018 60.000km - i have now and i hate it after 5 months already!
    screen goes black and other problems with it, Seats are totally loose and shake alot (but not the bolts) the seat mechanism itself...
    god forbid it rains, multiple error messages about safety+
    F-Sport wheels impossible to drive on, super harsh!
    multi stage hybrid is trash! GS 450h gearbox is way better...
    so LS is absolute disappoinment

  • @mohammedal-hebshi222
    @mohammedal-hebshi222 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im on the market for one. What do you guys think about 6spd vs 8spd when it comes to driving?

    • @charley95sheridan44
      @charley95sheridan44 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can tell ya one thing with AWD vs. RWD, RWD will be less costly when it comes to future engine service. Example: A front timing cover oil leak is an engine out job on an AWD and not on a RWD. There's so much more space on a RWD car when it comes to service on oil leaks. As these cars age there will be future oil leaks. That was a big factor I considered when I bought my GS since I'll never sell it.

    • @chexmoto
      @chexmoto 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      some people argue that the 8 speed is better, others praise the 6 speed. I've heard good things about both, but the benefits of the 8 speed are somewhat negligible. The 6 speed hunts less, and is found it many other toyota products such as the tundra and the sequoia, but its old tech. I have the 6 speed, solid so far, just lacks a true dedicated tranny cooler in this application.

    • @campgotta
      @campgotta 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have the 15 fsport with the 8speed. It takes a minute to find a gear when you floor it. If you like sporty driving you will probably like the 6. But the 8 is fun when you put it in manual. BUT the 8 speed is smooth af when driving normal

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rlx hybrid used?

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoshuaDarius-bm7nc rlx hybrid is not much more
      but it's used bigger more luxury more room fast less cargo less mpg
      Civic accord camry corolla

  • @tonytighttucker
    @tonytighttucker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to pick your head I've been looking at a 2013 GS 350 all-wheel drive F Sport with 185 k asking for $11500 neg all highway miles so they say... what's your thoughts please 🙏🏿 be real with me..

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tonytighttucker I mean it’s really up to you at the end of the day if you want to drive an 11 year old car with 185k miles. I personally don’t like driving cars that old I would rather use that $11k to lease a new Acura Integra or something but I understand if leasing doesn’t work for you.
      If your budget is truly $11k then buy an economy car or put that $11k in the bank have it earn 5% interest and finance a new Nissan Versa for $17k.

  • @Milkinporsche
    @Milkinporsche 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly We can't see a GS500 today.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      at least we have the IS 500 basically the same thing well priced too

    • @toyshop98
      @toyshop98 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have the GSF

    • @Milkinporsche
      @Milkinporsche 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @MeynMotorGroup there's just something about the gs that the is cannot replaced though. The longer wheel base and the more stately grand touring look.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Milkinporsche yea I know what you mean GS is def better but sadly nobody cares about driving anymore thus sedan sales have plummeted. Literally the only cars people buy are the NX and RX even the ES isn’t selling that well

  • @oaky1283
    @oaky1283 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who has the highest mileage GS in the comments ⬇️. And what issues have you had?

    • @chadh1854
      @chadh1854 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      120,000 2013 zero issues and paint has held up incredible!

  • @LOGICAL-JAY
    @LOGICAL-JAY 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Problems??? I never had a problem with my 350...lexus is known for reliability

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So we should just say the world revolves around Logical Jay and his 350 and let’s just ignore everyone in this video that did have problems and let’s also ignore all the problems that Lexus themselves found with their own product? Sound advice.

    • @LOGICAL-JAY
      @LOGICAL-JAY 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @MeynMotorGroup lol...yes..O be quiet..im just joking 🤣 & at the same time explaining that lexus is very reliable....ive been buying Lexus cars since the 90s and its very rare to run into major problems with them....especially if we compare it to the German cars I brought and leased in the past..lol. If I decide to gift my hellcat challenger to my son I'll grab the LC500 coupe next..peace

  • @aussie8114
    @aussie8114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If your car has a sunroof carry a plastic tarp and some rope and duct tape. Be prepared.

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea it's good if you are prepared especially if you have a used or high mileage car with a sun roof. It doesn't happen to everyone but man if it does, this is very dangerous

    • @charley95sheridan44
      @charley95sheridan44 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Another aspect is to keep the sunroof drains cleaned with some wire if you're referring to leaks?! Leaks can be a common problem for cars that live outside under trees and most don't know to keep the drains cleaned out.

    • @smooth_ops2942
      @smooth_ops2942 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@charley95sheridan44Yea you have to check the drains periodically, use a soft style of wire or better yet compressed air and blow them hoes out 😅.

  • @theodoreyoung8777
    @theodoreyoung8777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yo bro 🤝😎👍🏾👍🏾🫡

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey brother thanks so much for dropping in and supporting as always! I hope you’re having a great week!

    • @theodoreyoung8777
      @theodoreyoung8777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeynMotorGroup No problem bro and can’t wait to watch this one of course lol and the Jaguar one and drop those comments hope as well for you too my bro 🤝😎👍🏾👍🏾🫡

    • @MeynMotorGroup
      @MeynMotorGroup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea bro can't wait to get your thoughts on the Jag 😅

    • @theodoreyoung8777
      @theodoreyoung8777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeynMotorGroup 😅😎🤝

  • @theodoreyoung8777
    @theodoreyoung8777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👊🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @uww.v
    @uww.v 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    servo motor.

  • @emotionalintelligence776
    @emotionalintelligence776 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Avoid any model with the letterH, Lol. Sure its reliable when that battery does not have issues, but reality is when they do your car goes from drop dead reliable to dead until that battery is replaced, jsyk.

  • @yashaunjones9675
    @yashaunjones9675 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the 2011-2015.5 Volvo S80 or S60 t5 or t6 AWD a better vehicle?
    @meynmotorgroup