The Best Jaguar F Type Is Not New
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- The Best Jaguar F Type Is Not New
Is it time to upgrade your Jaguar F-Type? My interpretation is no, but I'll compare the brand new F Type with my own and you'll be clear whether or not it is time to upgrade.
The brand new #F-Type from #Jaguar is amazing, but here's my take. We'll do a full #walkaround and you'll see the differences, the upgrades, and even a few downgrades from the old to the new. Which car would I actually buy?
Watch, and find out.
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I'm a bigger fan of the outgoing model, the new front end looks too much like the Maserati GranTurismo for my liking.
I agree, and at first glance the small headlights make the hood look a little too long. The old lights break up the look better.
@@ECPP again excellent vid. Also like your vid on the new Lexus LC500. Maybe when I'm really old I would buy a used one. Convertible is interesting 2!
Thanks a lot Paul. True the Lexus is nice, but......
outgoing is wayyy better. New one looks like a damn Ford Focus
Leave to the dumbasses currently in charge of Jaguar to benchmark the worst car in class, after Ian Calum handed them best in class.
The outgoing model looks alot better, classic Jaguar styling for me. 👍
Absolutely
Perfect review. I prefer the old one.
Cool, thanks. I do as well. Its the front end for me. Other bits make the new car better, but that front end on the old car is stunning.
@@ECPP exactly
Agreed
@@ECPP yes the front end of the new one just doesnt sit right with me LMFo
Yes
Looks like I'm one of very few that find the new headlights beautiful and more aggessive (more exotic aswell). Luckily opinions differ otherwise it would be a boring world. Would take either one if I ever could
They certainly are a beautiful car, no doubt.
Yes, the look of the new one is nicer, but the sound of the original one is no compromises !
2017 F-type R owner here... just wanted to share some thoughts for those that maybe shopping for either. Having driven both there were three noticeable differences. Handling for sure has been greatly approved for those who drive spirited. The car feels way more planted when putting power through the turns. The ZF transmission has been tweaked and i found it to be noticeably quicker while in auto and while using the paddles. Now where i think jaguar ruined the car for me, is the exhaust. You can actually hear it turning on and off depending on what rpm youre at. It feels extremely artificial and took the excitement out of the car... you're losing all the obnoxious pops and crackles ive grown to love. i would imagine if youve never driven an older model (2019 or older), you wouldn't really be affected by this.
also not a big deal... while i like the new updated HUD... the plastic/glass material theyre using seems really cheap and has tons of glare.
Thanks for these f-type vids, exoticCar.
Thanks a lot Isaac for you wonderful comment. That is a great bit of detail that is insightful which is great for those shopping for either. The 1st car is so good that it was hard to beat and they tried but not sure they succeeded. By no means is the new car bad, it is still really great, it’s just as you say, and I have also found is the exhaust sound is a bit reduced and the lights for me were also not an improvement.
Wow bro bro thanks man! I am building my credit to get one of these. I have the job. I want a 2017 to 19. This answered all of my concerns from someone with personal testimony. The crackles and pops is exactly what I want.
the brakes were noticeably softer in the 2021 as well.
@@ECPP I think the reason for the reduced exhaust note is the European Regulations. Someting like the exhaust sound cannot be over a certain amout of DB. So I figure Jag just got lazy and said we'll just make the same car for the rest of the world. Even though the rest of the wold doesn't have any such regulation. At least North America doesn't.
So, which are u prefer? Exhaust can be modified 😁
outgoing..that new one looks like a mustang
Thanks for dropping a line.
Both are stunning looking cars but I can understand the need for an update. But as with a lot of things in life, you can't beat the original. Ian Callum was a genius Jaguar designer, a hard act to follow.
Absolutely agree. Stunning design from original
They are both gorgeous, but for me the older, original Callum design takes the cake. I just got the 2016 R in ultimate black with all the snap crackle and pop. Only 27,000 miles and still looks brand new. A bargain for $50K.
Sounds like a beautiful car
Good video! I like the out going. I don't care for the noodles side vents 🤣
You and me both! It actually looks a bit disturbing to me. My son looked at it and laughed.
New grill looks like a Mustang! Pass.
Somewhat
Definitely prefer the original one. Old headlight design separates it more from the rest of the sedans. Think the original ones will be the classic people remember in the future. Still one of the best looking cars on the road.
The older model is better looking and sounding. The 2 reasons people buy this car. Looks. Exhaust. Nothing else needs to be said. Coming from a 2018 frype owner. Sad to see i hope they change the front in the future again. This is not the look
I'm currently shopping these now, and I seem to be leaning toward the previous generation model. I think it looks better and, if I'm going to get a car of this nature, I want all of the dramatic noise and fanfare that comes from the older model's exhaust. I like my sports cars a little more on the loud and brutish side. If I wanted something tame and polite, I'd get an MB sedan.
You bet, that’s why I bought my 2018 too. The noise, looks, and go power
I like the 2015 version bether, it is the most close to the classic E-type and it feels the more "Jaguarish" of the two.
Both are pretty similar, mechanical and image. Both are fantastic 👌
True, both winners in my books
I hope Jaguar works on the interior center console look kinda cheap.. should compare to Mercedes Amg interior
Agreed, Mercedes has the nicest interiors right now
The price difference has to come from somewhere. Make it comparable to AMG and the price tag will follow.
My next car: Jaguar F-Type
They are amazing
Bought a 2016 F-type in 10/2021...fully knowing all about the new one. Prefer the old front end, prefer real dials (we have a car with a really good LCD gauge cluster and it is meh....
I totally agree, the older designs are better in my opinion. The slight bump in power is easy to make up with little issue, not that 25HP feels like much by the seat of the pants
sound?
F-Type may very well have made to the top of the list for my favorite modern sports cars. Just wish I could afford one. But not with the 4-banger. It occurs to me that Jaguars have always had 6 or more cylinders and engine displacements much larger than 2.0 liter. I may still tend to favor the outgoing model since it may still have more classic Jaguar look to it. But the differences are very subtle with the exception of maybe the front of the car.
For sure Kevin. These cars are absolutely magnificent, and overlooked by shoppers gravitating to the mainstream. These are stunning.
A nice touch would have been to say which years you're comparing instead of new and out going model. Now that a few years have passed an average viewer has no way to tell what you're comparing
Thanks so much. Cheers
The older headlights for me all of the time. They hark back to the XK220 shape and just ooze Jaaaag! I would understand if there were a lot of complaints with the older R but not many, so a true enthusiast will always pick for the older one in my opinion. Thanks for taking the time to show this.
Thank you for watching. I totally agree and why fix what’s not broken really applies here.
As the owner of a 2015 F-Type R, I must say that I prefer the original front-end. The new one is too generic and reminds me of an Audi or a Mustang. The new F-Type slots in better with the rest of the Jaguar lineup, but I don’t think that is necessarily a good thing.
A facelifted car that looks better than the original design is an extreme rarity. Manufacturers want to entice buyers with something “new,” but they often dilute the purity and cohesiveness of the original design for the sake of change. Original designs start with a clean sheet of paper, and the result is the best effort that the design team can manage within given constraints. If later tweaks and changes were aesthetically “better,” then they likely would have been included in the original design.
Also, don’t believe Jaguar’s “official” 0-60 times. The best time I’ve seen for a stock RWD F-Type R is 3.4 seconds, and an AWD can knock one or two tenths off of that.
Many thanks for your comment. I also agree with all of that. Wonderful original design and the old term why fix what’s not broke. Porsche proved this theory with the 911. Drastic changes with that car happens over decades instead of a couple years. Also agree on the performance, the 0-60 mph times are absolutely insane and they provide conservative times which are easily achieved by anyone, but there are certainly more potentials there. I have seen an awd R making 3.1
I still like the old XK better, more practical and comfortable as a road trip Grand Tourer... also the XK's build quality is better, no squeaks and rattles.
They are beautiful cars
It looks like the new Mustangs
Ive also thought that from certain angles especially the back end of the car looking from the side.
I won’t be changing to the new one. The old one looks better in every way for me!
I totally agree
Both beautiful cars I look forward to buying one in the future but definitely the older f type looks Cleaner something James Bond would drive
2017 R with 22k miles....dealer asking 62k...thoughts?
Sounds pretty solid. Can you get an extended warranty?
@@ECPP That's what I'm asking for
@@ECPP certified pre owned from Jag dealership.....7 year 100k warranty
That’s not bad if they are give you 7yr., usually it’s a $1k up charge for the extra year on a CPO, make sure it at least has the Vision Pkg.
Nice video. I prefer the old one, new one resembles Opel / Vauxhall Insignia styling...
Thanks Jack. The older one is better in most ways for sure.
No SVR for 2021. Sorry no deal
NEVER buy one of these new. The depreciation on these is insane. Wait 3 years at least because it will free fall
I got my 2015 R with 4k miles on it for $52k USD. Fucking DEAL!!!
Sure... I'm sure that there are lines out the door waiting for the 4-cylinder in that car. Along with pedals for the passenger.
Regardless, the "older" body style is far better, in my opinion. I can appreciate the need to refresh the style of nice cars. But some features do not make sense. The noodles? Prime example right there.
lol, for sure Thomas. The new car is slightly better in every way, but what counts the most and that is style and sound which is what made the F Type what it is today. Still an amazing machine and cant go wrong either way, but i will stay with mine right now.
The old headlights and taillights are way better
Thanks, yes I also love the headlights on the old car better too.
Keeping my 2013 convertible
Me, too. Best sound ever.
Enjoyed the video. I definitely prefer the outgoing model. I don’t like the new front (grille or headlights) nor the new side vents!
Right on. Same. I always like a bit more power, but 25 HP is barely noticeable so all else goes to outgoing model.
Great comparison... Old one for me as well. Funny that I was looking at buying one of these recently (convertible). Jaguar hit it out of the park.
I totally agree, amazing machines
i go with the old one...
I'm a 2018 F-type owner here, I will still pick the old one. I don't like the new headlight design.
I totally agree
@@ECPP So I decided to upgrade my f-type recently, which is including ACC, ABS, New LED headlights, 360 degrees 3D camera, and an led display steering wheel, that cost about 23000 CAD😂
Could do the mentioned sound comparison 🤷♂️🙂
For sure can see about lining that up.
They mucked up the styling... Looks like a cheap Mazda!
Its a different look at the front for sure
I prefer the old one.much better with fantastic appeal
Thanks, I agree
New car - worse looking, 4wd only, 70+k
2015 - better looking, can be rwd, 30k for a model that’s done 15k on the road and sat in a garage half its life
I know which I’m buying
I have a 2015 RWD F-Type R; must say the new one does look nice, but I still prefer the original, and the rear-wheel drive for the 2015 R makes it way more fun to drive. Also, mine doesn't have the upgraded software, so it still has the original exhaust sound.
Nice review... like out going model.....
Thanks, same here. Cheers
I have not driven either year yet but I’m already leaning to the 2016-2019 model for the more classic look and sound one would expect. Thanks for the great comparison. The SVR is destined to become a collector and on my radar
I agree they are amazing cars and I have some friends up there that are driving a Prpject7 and that is yet another level. They are amazing cars no less.
I had the choice with waiting for them to get the 2023 or 2019 I went for the 19 just like the look more to be honest and f$&k waiting !!
Great plan. Great car.
I see where people are saying it looks like an aston or granturismo, but tbh the headlights on the old version look like a suped up nissan 350z. Everybody has a different preference, I prefer the new look, but both are aggressive.
The new one looks more current & meaner...but more generic. Take a look at a front-on view of the Mazda 3! 😁 Oh the shame!
Original Callum design FTW!
You and me might like the old one ! But they make according to the demanding market ! So I like it
Still a stunning car and differences are splitting hairs but for me it’s just the headlights.
ExoticCar PlayPlace keep continuing the good content !
The new one looks like it has mustang lights. Nothing really sets it apart anymore
True
previous model v8 vantage for me thanks. don't like the new styling of the F-type or the vantage
I have the 2015 and love the car.
For sure. Great cars
one of the cars in my collection is F type R 2017. I do like that one better. Not sure if i care about the headlights or the hood that much for the new one.
Absolutely an amazing design from the word go
Much prefer the 2017 type R, more aggressive and more beautiful than the new one, and the noise is to die for LOL. Great video comparison and from Alberta too :-)
Thanks a lot Rich, and I totally agree with you. Have an awesome one. Cheers
Both are awesome in their time
New one has the Audi looking front
And a bit like a Mustang
I am a fan of the 'old' body. I have a 2015 F type R (RWD) and I am still happy with it, several years later.
They are gorgeous cars and I believe, to be timeless styling.
Thats stolen Ddesign .Sorry but thats 95 percent Aston Martin XD But at kast u get that car with leather for 62 K thats stuning
I didn’t like the new model at first but 1 year later it’s grown on me and I prefer it. Never did like that bumper bar in the middle of the grill on the old one. Also, if you can afford to risk an occasional ticket then I would not put a license plate on the front of the car. Cops have better things to do, usually. I paid for 2 tickets in the 14 years I owned my 350Z rather than compromise the looks of the car.
The best Jags are the X308 and X350 XJRs with the supercharged 4.2 V8.
It's a shame you didn't cover the exhaust sound by revving them both
The camera is focusing on your hand every .48 seconds. Adjust
The bar on mine is coming apart but it’s a solid car I got the type S it’s a fun little car
I have an in processing 2023 BTO. After learning of fpo, I had to try the 2018. Test drove a couple and it’s a done deal, buying one next week…
Nice
Both look great, not sure which one is my preference tbh.
Still can’t go wrong either way. Great cars and the new one has a bit more power which is a bonus on top of the digital dash.
Hey Mark, Great information and content as always buddy. I still like my 2015 R as my car is a one off, vents and hood diff from them all and only RWD of course. I would like the new engineering upgrades, I am sure they are worth considering a new car for.... I just love the one that takes me to the dance.!
The new front light on the new ones destroy the look..much prefer old one..more iconic
The front air vents in the new one are different too. I like the outgoing one though
true
I think the front of the old model looks like a GTR I like the new front end better
Old one's front 😍
New one's front 🤮
Thanks and I totally agree
@@ECPP that's why I got a 2016 Firesand beauty and I agree the R is a must, that sound is intoxicating, I never turn my stereo on so I can enjoy the exhaust 😆
Ok, Y didn't😒 u start both cars so we could hear them???
Mustang jaquar
True
Jag ruined the F Type. With the front redesign.
Prefer the look of the older version
Perfer the new one, if it's all wheel drive, better grip in the wet.
old svr anyday
Absolutely great car, agreed.
The new one is just not as good looking as the old one. It's not even close.
Considering all the $$$$$ you saved buying slightly used you did very well and are both nice vehicles regardless. I would hope its possible to remove the license plate bracket on the new one if not necessary, ruins the looks of the grill.
Totally agree Jim. If a Euro plate was installed, it may look a bit better, but American and Canadian plates would ruin that look.
Do you think that maybe you could mention what years the models you're reviewing are at some point? Do you even realize that you only refer to them as the "old model" and the "new model"? Hello!! How user unfriendly and stupid!! (I will add a caveat here that maybe towards the end of the video you share that info, but I couldn't get that far before I got so frustrated that I had to say bye bye and find some more useful reviews to watch.)
Thanks anyway
In 40 years. The old F-Type will be way more desirable than the new one. Trust me.
I agree
I like the grill, tailights and interior of the new one, but the old one has better headlights
Like the old one better
Thanks, I agree.
Those sandals.
I have to unsubscribe now
They both look very amazing at their point Jaguar should make new F-TYPE an another segment
They are beautiful and amazing to drive too
new face just seems generic to me, it’s lost that retro e type heritage to be corporate compliant
I agree
Why the new F-type is more quieter and lacks of pops and bangs is because of the new gasoline particle filter as the new emission laws are kicking in, well that's what I have heard!!
Maybe but that’s why I will keep my 2018
@@ECPP Have you heard the new AMG GT Black Series? Well, nobody has!😂 The cars are getting more quieter for every year to come!
2016-2017 R coupe all the way as it’s AWD and you can find them for HALF the msrp of around $110k with under 25k miles on them.
The depreciation slide levels off after 3-4 yrs and you should still have factory warranty remaining, especially on a CPO.
Remember, these have a 5, 6 or 7 year/ 100k mile factory transferable warranty!
If you test drive an F-Type R, or even an S for that matter I dare you not to smile at least once during a 5 mile drive, seriously, you can’t not smile.
BTW, I’m in the market for a White or Red one as I type this if anyone has one ; )
I agree Brian, the bright Red is stunning and the white is very attractive with great contrast with the white and black on this car. You are also right that these cars are smile inducing and I would say a good chance if you had a clean drivers record before this car, you probably won't after.
Also, the black pack with black wheels is a must for me with Red or White.
And I agree, both mine and my wife’s clean driving records will unfortunately be tarnished, but worth it.
Awesome episode!! Cool car
Thanks a lot. Cheers
I think both look awesome. Will get 1 of these in the next year or 2. The older model is the classic jaguar style, the new model has that more aggressive modern look.
My plan is to get a well looked after model with low mileage. Either will do for me.
That was a hard one to guage Mark. I like em both! I might be a little bent towards the new one only because of headlights! Put a black license plate on there and I think I'm good with that! But If it doesn't sound like yours, that's a strike against it! Lol
True Steven, it is splitting hairs really because both have benefits and I would summarize and say that one is not really better than the other, just different.
I prefer analogue dials and the rounder type rear lights a,d fron lights, so the older design is for me
Cheers
I prefer the previous design. I’m going to be test driving a 2020 jaguar f type svr tomorrow. The F type would make you stand out from the crowd out of the other brands from German sports cars and others. previous F Type design looks 100x better
I totally agree and that’s why I bought one. It is so much more interesting than its rivals.
ExoticCar PlayPlace only thing I hate about jaguar is the infotainment system. if buy newer facelift version is there a way can delete artificial sound from exhaust in the new f type’s ?
Great review bro. I personally prefer the new one, It's perfect. Definetively my dreams car
Thanks. Either way, you can’t go wrong.
Recently checked out a 2014 blue low Km. Jaguar f type soft top . Beaut car ! Couldn’t pull the trigger as timing not right. Thanx COVID! Now Tracking 2014 -2016s. Ok with the midsize engine as plenty of power and price point is lower . What I notice is low inventory across all of Canada and only a few in BC. When u. factor in the soft top even less. Recent visit to Jaguar showroom here confirmed I’m not a fan of coupe. No biggie as I have the patience to find the right car. Great vid explaining differences 2!
Thanks a lot Paul, you are right, there are not a ton of these cars around in general and then narrowing in further makes it a diamond. Are you lookinng at the Manual car as an option?
@@ECPP I would like the manual as fiance drives a BMW z3 stick. Drived stick since high school and owned a solstice GXP turbo for 6 years. Yes this car gets thrashed but I didn't have a single repair, fun to drive and car was mint was I sold it. Because I bought it brand new I got whacked selling it 1/2 price! That is not happening again. Used Jaguar in that amazing blue! I could drive around vancouver lower mainland for years and not see 2 of those! The guy that bought it had it shipped back east. Other choice is 2016 Mercedes Benz 350 SLK with the extra hp boost. Drive a GMC truck for work so not a daily driver. Thanx
I had the old ftype R and the soung it was amazing !!!!! It is the best
They are amazing
Finally someine is talking my concerns. The old one is still suitable with the depreciating cost and no value lost with the cool looks
Thanks a lot for watching. These F types are amazing cars
Outgoing car has a balance that the new one doesn't - because that's how it was originally designed. The headlights and the flow of the air vents on either side of the grille are designed in cohesion with the overall looks and proportions of the car. The new one completely throws that out the window. Yes the headlights look sharper, but in a more edgy way, not an elegant way. And the F type is elegant before it's edgy. The proportions of the new headlights are also out of wack, they get way too close to the wheel arches, and don't have enough space around them to actually shine in their own right. On the other hand the bonnet becomes too massive for this style, and as a result looks heavier and more imbalanced.
Aston did this right because they actually designed an entirely new car where such headlights were integrated to match in cohesion with everything else. Jaguar just added it to an existing design, and it completely loses its original flavor, but without gaining something truly new and unique.
Old one will always be the best one, the original with gill intakes is still the best (because it's the original design).
The old sound and out look is better
Old is gold......love my SVR....
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