VW ID.Buzz Cargo electric van review incl real-range and efficiency test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2023
- I love this van. So cool! Drives brilliantly, great fun and with pretty good range and nice charging speed.
This is us reviewing the cargo version of the ID.Buzz including putting it to practical use and testing the real-world practicality, efficiency and range incl worst case scenario loaded with passenger and roof rack to hinder efficiency.
But as a summary, I love this thing. Would keep it if I had more regular need of a van.
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Trim with matrix headlights costs over 73,000 they can keep their buzz and buzz off with those prices
Even my high spec id3 tour 5 can’t be got any more have to get a stripped down version of the tour 4 seater and if you add up the cost of the spec I have in my t5 it would cost around 15,000 more than what I paid back in 2021.
I'd love to see Kryton do a video on you and your business. The Fully Charged Show really should be highlighting and promoting people like as the way of the future at the leading edge, showing what is possible today, not only with used EV sales, but with your use of solar PV with batteries for renewable independent energy. Keep up the good work.
Surprisingly good efficiency - especially for a van
no weight in it
looks no more than a 100kg in my eyes
What's you point?@@burleigh604
Was thinking who or what is “ORSEV” for a while…
Do you think KIA says KN?
Great call centre service from the sound of it.
Lots of McDonalds wrapper storage in the windshield bin. I am so getting one!
Vans are just so handy and this is a real looker on the outside. VW seemed to have skimped a bit upfront though.
For 50k the driver really should be comfortable and good armrests a must.
That cracked me up Richard “ CANCEL CANCEL” lol ,great video fella 👍😉💪
Too funny 😂
its the best looking VW in years and years. Seeing it in person just makes me happy every time, especially with some colors or livery. My 2nd favorite looking EV is the megane e-tech btw.
Waiting in the USA for the Buzz to arrive. Thank you.
VW should have an optional solar panel and inverter pack designed for install into the roof. The design should be aero dynamic. With such large real estate you should be able to add 2-5kwh of charging on a sunny day. It should pay for itself in fuel savings over several yrs.
Great review, its a quirky van to be sure, nice to see a van review including the use of the cargo area.
@RSymons RSEV I agree with you that the adaptive cruise control works extremely well. However, if you’ve got the automatic speed limit detection active, it can be quite a pain. I drive an ID3 in France at the system gets massively confused with speed limit signs here. On many occasions it decides the speed limit should be 130km/h in one of the La Défense area tunnels and actually starts accelerating hard when the actual speed limit is 70 km/h. Other times it brakes hard when it suddenly thinks that the speed limit should be 50km/h on a 100km/h motorway. All in all, its a good system, but the speed limit recognition software needs to be improved.
Congratulations on the purchase and I hope it serves you well 😊
I saw my first one a couple of days ago. Very smart.
I want one but that price is a stumbling block. Thanks for the review, much appreciated.
Try it in winter when it's cold,with the heater, lights and wipers on.
Like it alot. Please tell me VW were smart enough to have a Camp mode option like Tesla?
I’ve done over 7K in mine, it’s the best van out. Costs me on average £10 to charge up at home and currently getting 240+ miles. Not for builders though😂
Got literally this spec on order due for delivery aug/sep. I asked for a arm rest but it’s only available in the 2 seater version. I’ll have to do a bit of research to see how that guy fitted that one ☝️
I looked at getting the ID Buzz last November. At that time the dealer was telling me it would be 12 to 18 months waiting list...!! So I cancelled and went to Ford. However the E-Transit struggles to do 120 miles in the real world...!! Clearly the ID Buzz has much better range... Just a shame that VW are deliberately throttling the BEVs to less than 10% of their ICE output.
Great van. Absolutely no idea when VW are bringing it to Australia.
And we will likely pay 120k plus 😢
Hi
Great review from the id buzz.
I’m waiting for my new id buzz cargo in a couple of months.
I asked the seller if I could order it with a armrest. But they don’t have!!!
And now i saw that you mounted it yourself.
Could you make a video on how to do it, and where you bought the armrest?
Looks alright
Test drove one yesterday. An easy drive but not as easy as a transporter to park. Additionally the loading capacity is tiny for the overall length. Nice van but not worth the compromise in space.
Can the Buzz fit 4ft X 8ft sheets of plywood in the back door and close it?
I grew up in VW vans. My dad had 3 microbuses, not the Vanagon. Two fullwidth benchbseats in back. Could seat 8 kids plus mom & dad in front. Left a LOT of square space behind back seat.
**** full 4ft X 8ft sheets of plywood would fit easily in back hatch door on top seat backs (with towels to protect) and close the hatch door.
I wonder if SAIC is going to start upping its game with its Maxus range - bring some MG styling to them and undercut VW. If they have sense they would.
E deliver 7 / V70 later in year maybe
I wonder if you could transfer the bench seat to a regular id buzz, thus making the regular buzz a 6 seater?
Cant imagine it losing you any money either..
Does it fit in your fancy lighting tunnel?
Nice video - Cancel..! Cancel..! Warts and all..! 😋Funnily enough, I did that as well, in my ID3, and it was my first day of ownership, trying to reach the front of the windscreen. I was wearing a cricket type cap at the time.
2 things - 1, why does a previous owner give up on a brand new van after 5000 miles, after obviously committing to it [extra bits fitted]? And 2, there's an awful lot of vehicle that isn't load carrying space. About 50/50 split [just look at the side view in the video]. That really doesn't cut it commercially. For comparison, an E-Transit is more like a [front to rear] 30/70 split. And the Transit is way bigger at a similar price [spec depending]. Yes, I know the Transit [and others] is a much more "serious" van. But running costs is what it's all about, isn't it? That said, the ID Buzz is about a cute as a van can get, so I'm sure it'll get sales in boutique markets. Perhaps we need the long wheelbase version in the UK.
Looks good for local light deliveries.
the only cargo van on the market where the interior feels like it's from the 21st century - people still have to live in these vans, don't know why manufacturers insist on the most plain boring barebones cheap interior
Vans definitely tend to have really awful comforts for driver & passenger. You're lucky if you get a touchscreen or anything fancy. And even if it does it'll look like stuff out of the parts bin.
@@drxym trust me I know, that's my issue, test drove an eVito and it was an actual joke
Great video here. Wish we were getting a US🇺🇸 version.
I would like to try one of those with the steering wheel on the wrong side.
Never seen that before.
Had to google ORSEV but no joy. Took a while to realise. Remove the circle or try making it solid with the lightning cut out to improve readability.
I love toe bar , lane keep asist and adaptive cruise
180kwh charging speed 😲
kW :)
Another brilliant everyman video! Richard, could you be the next Harry Metcalfe or Quentin Wilson? But please, whatever you do, don't become the next Mike Brewer!
Good car that focus you see later on
Anybody know if you can add a row of extra seats in the back of this van version, like you can in transporters? Thanks
where did the arm rest come from as they dont have on 1+2
Can you advise armrest please??
I’ll keep my 60000 mike e expert van thanks.Range works for me and the load space is bigger.
Sos buttons have been mandatory in cars for years now since 2017 maybe?
Is the ford e-transit custom available in the UK yet? how does it compare price and features?
yes, see his review on the e-transit.
@@spikebmth That's the e-transit van - I meant the smaller transit custom van, there is a new version of that coming out in both diesel and electric.
Sorry, missed the vital custom word!
I think they later this year, ithe custom is the right size for me. Or the maxus e deliver 7
I am still missing the small overlap crash test! Why?
aren't vw cutting back on electric vehicle production due to poor uptake?
Great looker,reminds me a HOT WHEELS
Design.
Considered getting one through our fleet leasing company, but the load capacity isn’t good enough
Yeah, EV vans are great for light-load, low-ish mileage applications at the moment, but these are really Gen-01 as practical vans. This will only ever get better & better. If you generate your own power from the roof, well that offsets the increased purchase price, plus, almost zero servicing, maintenance, & replacement parts costs, not to mention almost zero down-time and massive longevity? Goodbye replacement clutches, brakes, oil changes etc. However, our work-gang vans usually carry 90% full capacity loads, and often haul trailers with mini-diggers for jobs with a 200 mile return day-trip, so EV is not going to do it. But our light vans & passenger vehicles are now, maybe, 80% EV?
It only gets better from here
Saw the van in the wild and not a fan of the rear and in particular the rear lights when we were following it. Felt like they’d run out of time designing the back.
Surprised there are no armrests fitted even the Crafter has armrests.
Did you watch the whole video?
As a people carrier, yes. However, I don't see its application as a commercial vehicle. The loadspace is too small for most trades (I know there's a long wheel base coming), the price is too expensive, and the range is too small, considering it is a van and should be loaded up.
Great van! However, I do think VW have missed a trick not making it or at least giving it a 4x4 option. Would then be a fantastic recovery vehicle! Sure people like the RAC and AA would be a huge potential market for VW. Even police forces would definitely be attacked to that opinion
real adventure starts here 05:40 :)
not sure the T6 is going out of production? The Buzz cant handle a big trailer, that and the price is why i dont want it.
On the 'heating' it would be better to have heated seats...IMO
Surprised you didn't go 2 tone paint
What's the range vs money
11:04 😆
Also do like ev tiger 🐯 might treat myself to a hat..
I dont get the sloth 😬
I’ve heard of ‘butt dialling’ but is this the first example of ‘nut dialling’? 😂
Love your work but tell the camera operator that they don't need to constantly shift ALL THE TIME because it gets old really quickly and is really annoying. The odd shift here and there is good enough, thanks!
Yes ev jet tshirt
There’s no way you can compare VW lane assist and adaptive cruise control to Tesla Autopilot otherwise great review!
The only cargo van you have to wait for Buck Rogers and the 25th century
hello mate
So to be safe and not charge again till ur at home u have a max distance of 90 miles
if ur taking 500kg take off 30%
I found those roof bars unbearably noisy on mine
Hi Richard how about doing a sweatshirt with caricatures of you, Ginz, Sam etc that would be fun
I had a VW car decide that 100mph was a good speed to achieve on the M4 the other week.
I have a photo if people don’t believe me.
VW's official top speed of the ID3 150kW is 99mph. It goes a lot faster than that. I'm not saying how I know. 😋
According to EV database, the winter range on a motorway is 145 miles, now take off 15 miles to cope with unreliable and not working rapid chargers and you are down to 130 miles unloaded. That is when it is brand new and everybody should know that lithium battery capacity and range reduces from day one with time and use cycles.
This is why nobody wants electric vehicles and why people who already have them are finding that their investment is reducing at a vastly greater rate than if they had bought ice.
You're just commenting on a VW without heat pump. Sure VW's are very poor in that respect, but it isn't anything like the same for every BEV. And "nobody wants electric vehicles" Excuse me?
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Of course it looks great as it has a Welsh flag on the rear plate !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, did you say a van driver could actually keep their distance from you 🙏🏻
I drove the passenger/ normal version earlier this week. I was determined to buy one beforehand. I’m glad a I drove it first. It was terrible. Really really terrible. I was gutted.
"great for marketing and branding" ! yeah but that will only last 6 months while the car has that 'new look'
Design Ok price, silly. It changed substantially from the concept, looks nothing like the Type 2 now
40 years ago I had a Commer van that looked like that. Its hideous, about as cool blacksmiths shop. They are just trying to make it look retro Like a hippy van. All it needs is a few ban the bomb stickers on it and some painted flowers.
I’m gonna start saying fuel flap.
I have model Y it has so much space inside! Main reason why I bought it not even a Cayenne can rival it
Would you use a model Y as a van, transporting tools & equipment?
@@spikebmth yes! I carry loads of gear for my job, thrunk is very useful also the extra storage in the boot below floor very secure too. If can store expensive gear while having sesory mode on so you know everything is safe.
I’m a T5.1 owner and the buzz to me is butt ugly and will never be a satisfactory replacement. T4s are so much better looking and the buzz does not visually echo a vintage splitty. It does look like a Fisher Price toy though. 😂
Sadly style over substance from VW and oh so expensive on the scene tax.
name a better ev van
@@yowvil Is the Ford e-Transit Custom out in the UK yet? Ford Australia are spruiking a 380 km (236 mi) range and 40min charging, 1100kg cargo capacity and 2 ton towing - will be interesting to see how that matches on price and features
@@yowvil In the U.K., the E-Transit has more usable range and larger volume, payload and is on sale at a discount now. Look out for the updated versions of the Mercedes Sprinter and Ford Transit Custom they have huge improvements to battery capacity, bms and drive train efficiency. Watch out for Cybertruck and Cybervan from Tesla, they will break the internet upon launch. I am a life long VW fan, who mourns for the days when VW made world class vehicles.
@@commuterbranchline8132 The E-Transit has far less range, slower charging and worse performance. It is more of a work truck though. The other models you mentioned don't exist yet. And the Cybertruck is not a van
@@yowvil never thought I say this due to how much I hate it but e-expert (driven one for about a year) mostly due to the vw's stupid touch interrior that drives you mad and it's way to small, need the 3m loading capaticy.
It also has the same lousy towing capacity over only 1000kgs. over weight with just a small skylift.
White van man eh? Need a Star rammed down the windscreen
What a ridiculous dashboard it has, loads of wasted space and as you found out...charging sockets that are both difficult to see and to reach.
It appears to me to have been rushed out into production without being given enough
thought.
As for the cost, I think I'd prefer the Chinese London Cab version 6:18
2/10 for load stacking technique.
A van with a bulkhead, panel sides but a glass back door? That's very odd
Not really? - that's exactly that setup with my current Ford Transit Custom - it was the most common setup for all the vans at the Ford dealer at the time I purchased mine. All Transit Customs come with glass barn doors at the rear and the bulkhead by default at least they do in Australia, when I picked up mine 90% had 1 or 2 panel sliders with a glass slider being rare.
Love my Buzz 👍.
We’ll done on not slagging off the software like all the lazy jurnos do. I have an ID3 and a Buzz and software is not bad at all.
Find a van driver and stick him/her in it see how it performs, someone who sees it as a tool and not a caring enthusiast.
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Sorry £50k! crazy money for a van, make it £30k and that would be OK
A lot of usb-c ports that will be redundant in a few years when they are superseded
As a self employed hvacr contractor, I can't earn minimum wage with my old van. I should charge double if I buy this overpriced VW
Are you generalising all van drivers by saying "junk on the dashboard"! haha, why would you get the idea that van drivers are dirtyscroats
It's all bullshit. Until a commercial truck or van comes with a 150kWh battery, I strongly don't recommend buying this. You stand in line and wait for charging, wasting time, more. you pay for it. At the moment, a hybrid car is cheaper than an electric car. I speak like an Vw id4 pro s owner.
P.S. You never charge or discharge your car to the end! Therefore, you have a maximum of 70 percent of the nominal charge of 77 kW. 77/100*70=53kw. 53*2.9 = 153. and miles from charging station to charging station. This is your real power reserve. Therefore, this is not acceptable for commercial vehicles.
True but it depends on the buyer and their situation, for us it will be used for pricing up work within 50 miles, and will only need to be charged at home which will be free from solar panels, and for the actual work there's 3 various other work vehicles in which we use, but if you are in the market for only one van this isn't the van to go for.
Love the design…..but EV is not the way forward..
Yes it is.
@@Simon-dm8zv no... wait and see
@@kramshiron You could have said that 10 years ago.
@@Simon-dm8zv 1...more expensive to buy and run than ice cars.
2 resale value appalling.
3 insurance will be expensive and a lot of vehicles will be written off due to high cost of batteries.
4 infrastructure not even close to accommodate EV charging which is slow and tedious.
5 range is low for most especially in winter.
6 what if you live in a flat or park away from your house....what you going to have cables all over the place?.
The future is hydrogen and synthetic fuels. End of.
@@kramshiron 1. Yes, price is (still) higher but use is obviously a lot cheaper.
2. Not at all, take a look at used EVs.
3. Yes a bit, but depends on which model.
4. I don’t know where you live but over here, and the majority of western Europe in general, the infrastructure is really great and expanding at a high rate.
5. Again, this was the case 10 years ago. Not anymore. Modern EVs are doing great in all seasons.
6. Simple: curbside charging. Works great.
Hydrogen and efuels are terribly inefficient. Never going to make it as a solution for the masses. Pretty much everybody in the industry acknowledges this in 2023.
This is a terrible review. Please next time, familiarise yourself with the vehicle prior to recording... Also maybe consider reviewing the material before posting.