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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- The greatest trilogy of all time was nearly turned into a garbage heap during development, here's how.
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#lotr #lord of the rings #gandalf #aragorn #middleearth #ringsofpower #gondor #rohan #dialofdestiny #indianajones #barbie #oppenheimer #spiderverse
It’s worth mentioning that Weinstein’s threat of hiring Quentin Tarantino was probably a sort of empty threat to try to get Peter to bow under his demands, as Weinstein also threatened to get John Madden to direct (Director of Shakespeare in Love), and it feels unlikely that Tarantino would be interested in a project like that.
I think the real threat would’ve been Weinstein finding someone desperate enough to direct it that they would follow all his demands and make the single movie Lotr mess. Anyhow , maybe I’ll re-release it again some day and include that part haha
That's the sheer irony with the way Hollywon't "functions" (or rather, doesn't). It's a bloody miracle that PJ & NLC actually DID end up getting the backing, support, and free reign to make the LotR trilogy (WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN ONLY ONE FILM) into the legendary project it was. I mean, just imagine if Wine-steen *DID* get his way... as he almost always did. Liv Tyler and Miranda Otto probably would've had to watch their backs at every turn. :/ That dude would've been PREYING upon them. Sick fugg.
"It's three books isn't it? Shouldn't it be three movies"
The greatest decision any human being has ever made.
On that day the human race made God proud
Then he made 3 movies out of a book half the size of any of the books in the trilogy
Great case where greed actually WAS good.
@@user-microburst Although that time it was the fault of the producers. They forced Jackson into it. He had been signed on when it was supposed to be 2 movies, and late into the production, only months before the release of the first episode, they made the call to turn it into 3 films, without postponing production or giving him more shooting days. Jackson and writers had to re-write it WHILE FILMING. A lot of the scenes were being written by Jackson as they were being filmed, which is insane.
@@mythwest 🥶CRINGE 🥶
“And where was Grohan when Rondor needed aid?!”
I cannot stop laughing!
This comment wins hahahaha
What "Rondor" do you speak of king "Theothor". Surely there is no such place?
_Ride_ _of_ _the_ _Grohirrondorianim_
Where was Grohandor when Grohandor needed aid?
QT is a phenomenal director, but we all know that the One Ring would have ended up being a toe ring
Or Cock ring. One size.. too small. 😂
Nah, only Nenya would have been, and he would have cast Uma Thurman as Galadriel.
Would he have wanted to make those movies? They are just not his type for directing.
It was a bluff. QT would never direct LOtR
Tarantino would never had taken on an adaption, especially LOTR
Makes me so happy to know the Harvey Weinstein missed this opportunity of a lifetime and that Peter Jackson scored big. and that Bob Shay had the foresight to green light 3 films.
Great to see how the appendices from the movies is still inspiring people too.
That appendices is an unprecedented look behind the curtain at movie magic, and undoubtably has inspired many storytellers and filmmakers, myself included
best orc ever ! Brilliant jab by PJ and Crew!
Took a j with enough european admixture to appreciate it. Worth noticing though at every level who was in charge, even who had the rights which only transferred for the film via a tribal backroom deal.
It was truly lightning in a bottle. I still shudder to imagine how close we came to disaster had the Execs got their way.
Think about how many OTHER films or projects were utterly ruined because of megalomaniacal, narcissistic, tantrum-throwing executives. In fact, I often wonder if that is precisely what happened to "The Last Airbender". After all, the animated series is noteworthy. The "film" is clearly a bloody DISASTER. Gee, I wonder why. 🙄
Eh...Miramax executives were awful...New Line executives were awesome. "The execs" is just lazy thinking.
@@Novastar.SaberCombat Also Eragon and Narnia..
"rings of power".
@@Novastar.SaberCombat The Hobbit is a perfect example of this.
I still remember the battle between Harry Potter and LOTR for the Fantasy Box Office back in 01-03. Between the two I have to say Lord of the Rings was easily the superior series
Massively
Basically, we _all_ won.
Both franchises are still so enjoyable to watch more than two decades later.
@fuferito 100%. Speaking for myself I had just turned 11 when LOTR - FOTR first came out and grew up with all of these movies so they will always be so nostalgic of my teenage years so I'll love them for eternity. It's a shame such heights haven't really been matched since. LOTR is proof that giving a passionate team of creative minds that repse t the psurce material, you can create utter majestic pieces of art. And that goes for absolutely every single person who worked on these movies as its a monumental take by all involved. Must have been such a privilege to look back and say you worked on it.
One was for children & one was for the sophisticated
@@Kev_Cos you must also realise that there are many other films created with passion freely that failed. Passion isnt everything. You must also have wisdom and intellect on what will resonate with the audience etc...
The more I learn of the story of LOTRs creation, the more I appreciate just what a complete fluke it was.
The optimism of the 90s gave rise to what was so perfectly captured in LOTR; had it been made even 5 years later (post 9/11) the tone would have been completely different, even in adapting that same source material.
What a gift to the ages.
Truly. Like the biggest startups and innovators, they truly reached for the stars because they simply didn’t know it couldn’t be done
Ah yes, Théothor, my favourite character
I'm more of a Deneden guy
Théothor is actually a rad name.
"Kill one of the hobbits" and "combine rohan and gondor into one kingdom". I will never understand why movie studios pay money for IPs when they don't want the IP. Why recruit passionate fans if you plan on pissing them off?
Right??? At that point just make up your own story lol
Why does “Rings of Power” now come to my mind?
@@mediocreman6323 well kill one of hobbits way better then shit all over the story in ringsofpowder
You guys might not want to hear it, but the book, "6 days of the Condor" was turned into a fantastic movie called, "3 days of the Condor". There is nothing wrong with taking a long-form of media, novels, and turning it into a satisfying short/visual form of media. It is not automatically bad.
Money
Something like LOTR will never happen again. What a time it was
That's what people said about the first Star Wars, these giant industry changing movies are rare but they will happen again eventually, I just hope it happens in our life time.
@@DragonFlameAUDune happened and it was once again a revolution!
@@94marciDune is hardly a revolution… It doesn’t compare to the craze/impact of LOTR or Star Wars…
@@94marci the Dune movies hype is mass scale cope for hollywood sucking ass for over a decade.
Indeed, 9-11 hit and we were searching for a respite from the storm. Very little internet no cell phones. Truly a great time to be alive.
I saw Peter Jackson on stage do a Q&A back in 2005 and he talked a bit about how insane the process was with Miramax.
He said he still had a copy of the memo Harvey sent him that finally made them snap and take the movie elsewhere.
"Is there any hope Peter, for Lord of the Rings?"
"There never was much hope. Just a fools hope"
It really was a kind of eucatastrophy, wasn't it?
I remember my father telling the story how all Hollywood studio's wanted to make max two movies but that their was one guy who wanted to greenlight three. All hail Bob Shay, what a hero🎉
Shay is the Samwise Gamgee here, def hero
Similar coincidental magic also helped Star Wars to get made, one should point out. Lucas had essentially one ally amongst the execs of Fox, and that was what it took to carry a very difficult creation process to becoming what is today a timeless classic.
These similarities feel sort of like lightning striking twice, so not purely random chance. You have the luck of the right person in the right place at the right time, who has the vision to see what the movie maker(s) want to accomplish, the competence to see the project through, and the desire to watch the final creation, like.
@@lennyvalentin6485 Yea facts, pitty to think about all the trully awesome and amazing stuff that didnt get to see the light because some random guy with no expertise decided to do it differently...
Still think it's awesome that, essentially, without Freddy Krueger there would be no LOTR films.
That really is an interesting way to look at it
Also thank John Boorman for not getting his terrible LOTR greenlit. That way, we got Excalibur and LOTR.
Not to mention, if "Dead Alive" (a.k.a. "Braindead") hadn't been made by P.J., I wonder if he'd have used so many of the same type of shots--fisheye lenses and all--in LotR.
"IS IT SECRET?! IS IT SAFE?" --purple wearing pajama priest... ... oh, wait, nvm. :D
#IKickArseForTheLORD
They should make a movie at this point about the making of the lord of the rings it’s a good story in itself.
For real!
The Extended Edition making-of DVDs are a pretty good substitute. SIX DVDs!
New Zealand is a absolutely beautiful place. The panoramic views in this movie are unforgettable. No VFX were needed to capture the landscape. Even the NZ Defence Forces were used for their organisational abilities. I go to the movies to be entertained, and Peter Jackson did that for millions of people.
There's no way in Hades I would ever believe Quintin Tarantino would agree to direct a Lord of the Rings film. It is just not his style. When Weinstein said that to Peter Jackson he must have been bluffing.
He probably was bluffing. But who knows what director he would’ve ended up with, he later also threatened to get John Madden from Shakespeare In Love to direct it
When they said one of the hobbits had to be killed off, my eyes literally POPPED!
Right?? Tolkien actually considered having Merry or Pippin die at the Black Gates, but his friend CS Lewis (author of narnia) talked him out of it. So glad for that!
I had no idea we came so close to disaster. And to think, if not for these movies, there would be nowhere near the amount of interest in the fantasy genre as there is now. Other studios saw the success of LOTR and tried to catch that same lightning in the bottle, but in that pursuit to become the "next big fantasy trilogy", what came of it?
- Narnia started well enough but petered out with the sequels
- Percy Jackson stumbled and fell on it's face
- Golden Compass was dead on arrival
- Eragon was mangled beyond recognition
Even today, we still have this derivative trend chasing, only now with the success of Game of Thrones.
- Wheel of Time genuinely angered me with how badly it was vandalized by the scriptwriters at Amazon
- And speaking of Amazon - Rings of Power I avoid like the plague
Don't even get started on Harry Potter.
Not just in the fantasy genre in general, but interest in Tolkien's books in particular was also stimulated. I will never forget walking out of the theater at the end of Fellowship of the Ring, and hearing a guy in front of me tell his friend "I'm going out and buying the books tomorrow; I can't wait two years to find out how this ends."
Very good point! With this little story about studio meddling, we should all realize that it is far more probable to end up with crap, than with gold.
Still the greatest movie trilogy, even better than Star Wars episode 4-6. The Amazon show doesn't even come close in quality.
As a Star Wars fans. I 100% agree with you.
The first big hint that these are not good men was when they wanted to kill off one of the hobbits. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF MERRY OR PIP HAD DIED?
Or Sam 😔
In an early draft Pippin died at the Battle of the Morannon; but, C.S. Lewis talked him out of it.
“We saved the Shire, Sam. . . But not for me” Aww man that’s better than a death of a hobbit.
“We saved the Shire, Sam. . . But not for me” In effect, we do get a dead hobbit
This is the greatest trilogy ever made. As time goes on, I really feel like the 2000s were the golden age of digital cinema, and Lord of the Rings was right in the thick of it. It would be really awesome to get back to that, but I won’t hold my breath.
Yeah we truly had it special, hard to believe there were so many good movies coming out at the same time
as we didn't need another reason to hate HW
There were actually tears in my eyes during the 1812 overture - nice!
I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
This was a fantastic tribute to a world class movie trilogy. Well done. This needs so many more views and likes.
Thanks so much!
Well Miramax was under Disney at the time, and Tolkien hated Disney. So it would've broken his golden rule of not letting disney adapt his work.
Good thing Disney will NEVER own an epic fantasy franchise like The Lord Of The Rings and The Hobbit.
@@TheImaginator972 thats why they raped starwars. Its the only one they could actually get. People praise george but ultimately it was him who sold out. As soon as christopher tolkien died his son sold out to amazon, hence the travesty that is rings of power
@@TheImaginator972 Disney had a Narnia film series in the 2000s and they also currently have Percy Jackson on Disney +
@Mammothsaber-4457 that was sarcasm mate.
I still cannot believe these movies were made with that amount of budget, they seem very expensive even for this day. the amazon series looks like a low budget, student attempt.
TBH I think they got a lot of Tolkien fans who went above and beyond to enhance the parts they were responsible for. With rings of power they hired a bunch of people who didn’t even know the source material
@@KBWrecker That's the difference betwen when you have true fans of something working on their dream, and a corporate "spared no expense" made-to-make-money project.
Peter Jackson really beat Harvey Weinstein to the punch . I have to say lord of the rings is by far one of the best films ever made l I remember watching lord of the rings on vhs with my dad and we were amazed of the story and the characters. All hail Peter Jackson
Just imagine all the movies that would have been masterpieces without Hollywood interfering with the directors.
Is there any footage of the 30min LOTR what Jackson showed? Im curious to see it
Man that would be amazing, haven’t heard of it being available but hopefully some day
Watched it with great pleasure again ❤- very well done, thank you !
Thanks for watching!
This video is a re-upload, as there were some things I wanted to fix from the original. As always hope you enjoy! Do you have any core memories surrounding Lord of the Rings?
Also: I should do my due diligence, even though I despise everything Weinstein stood for, by saying that he did get Peter the rights to the trilogy, and he did give Peter a clear budget. Peter probably should've been more realistic with his budget expectations before agreeing to it. Nonetheless, I'm glad things turned out the way they did.
@@lollolson Yeah unfortunately, (maybe wasn't the best idea lol) but hoping that commitment to excellence will win in the end and get more views!
@@mythwest I used to watch Lord of the Rings when I was sick. Not gonna lie, probably the best medicine haha.
Any house can be Elrond's "house of healing" if you're watching Lotr haha
In an alternate reality, a version of you is watching a video of "How the cancelled LOTR film could have been"
Gosh that's so sad..
“Arreirvederchi” echoing over Mordor was 👌🏻✨😂
Thanks😂
God i wish more projects were allowed to be shopped around. Also I wish more companies *committed* to marketing great films well.
Although the actors and many crew members were kinda screwed over when receiving royalties/residuals after the trilogy, it is absolutely incredible to see how hard everyone worked and how essential each and every person’s unique talent was to accomplishing this project. They brought to life not just a story, but an entirely new world.
"Island somewhere around Australia" for New Zealand is some of the most stereotypically 'Murican thing to say.
said for ironic effect by the video's author, but yes MAGA people would say something like that
You're talking about Tasmania, right?
@@vaughanie23or even super out of touch, possibly (probably) coked-out film executives who never leave the country
@@Jiminy-trxhe’s talking about self-obsessed film executives in holywoood. He was talking about their internal dialogue when they hear about this country across the world that they don’t care/ want to care about. It was pretty obvious to me…
M E D I A L I T E R A C Y
A great tribute to the most profoundly epic trilogy of all time. The experience of watching these films at the cinema for the first time was out of this world. I don't think anything else will ever come close.
Not much I wouldn’t give to be able to experience these for the first time again
Tolkien giganerds can complain about the movies all they want, but.... we could have got the Weinstein approved version. Mull that one over, and appreciate the wonderful thing that we got.
Exactly!
There’s some great scenes and characters that were left out but there’s only so much you can put into a movie. It’s a near perfect adaptation
This is a great piece of film essay writing, congratulations.
Thanks so much!
Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are my favorite film series'.
It’s sad that their success sort of dooms them to endless sequels but at least we’ll always have the originals!
@@mythwest Although I do have a soft spot for the prequels and Rogue One, I agree 100%
@@hiattgrey9161 Certainly, and who knows with some of these upcoming Lotr Warner Brothers movies, could possibly be pretty good? At least they have a number of OG's from the original trilly back to work on it so we'll have to see
8:31 What the heck, that was EPIC, i had goose bumps the spine tingling kind, the Music and the first scene was just amazing, brilliant...Peter Jackson, what a Legend......
Using Tarantino, seems like such an empty threat. At this point I don’t think Harvey could have forced QT to do it and I don’t believe Tarantino would be interested in making this, especially with all the notes and interference
True. It doesn’t seem like a project QT would be interested in, so I suppose the real threat was if Harvey Weinstein would’ve gotten someone that would be desperate enough to be the director that they would cow to all his demands. Maybe I’ll make a new version and add that part lol
Amazing content! A lot better than those that get tons of views, like a LOT better. It’s well written, easy to follow, the sound design is soothing and well chosen, etc.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed
Here's how you answer your question at 10:19. It's bc Peter Jackson respected the source material, stuck to the source material, and only made slight changes that made sense on print but not visually. He didn't input today's politics, he respected the fans, he respected Tolkien, he wasn't trying to convey a message, and most importantly he delivered what he and the people wanted: a faithful film adaptation of a trilogy. These movies are the reason why I got into Tolkien's world and if they were poorly made, I doubt I would have in the first place. This is why people hate modern adaptations bc the director's input their own beliefs instead of just simply sticking to the established lore.
Beautifully said
@@sasforex5917I must respectfully disagree. Jackson et al. made *huge* changes to the story. In some cases it was for pacing, others to insert tension where it did not exist in the book (mainly in films 2 & 3), and in others it was to create more noticeable character-arcs. What they did right was to keep the tone of the story Tolkienesque, usually by using as much of the dialog (or narrator passages delivered as dialog) as possible, even if the lines are delivered at a different point in the story or by a different character. They definitely respected the material, even if they didn't stick to the exact story line for line. There are so many differences between the book and films, it's a testament to the efforts of everyone involved that they feel like the same story.
Anywhere he changed the dialogue was egomaniacal stupidity.
How could anyone be so arrogant as to think that they could improve dialogue written by someone with a command of the English language like Tolkien?
E G. Eowen ang the king of the Nazgul, Aragorns meeting with Eomer, replacing Glorfindel with Arwen at the ford and multiple other scenes where Jacksons attempts at modernization for relevance or whatever he was trying for just came off as clumsy bad writing.
Good movies it's just the books are infinitely better.
I couldn't be more blessed to have Lord of the Rings released in cinemas worldwide at my teenage years. It made such a huge impact on my life to seek out Tolkien's work and even see how much he inspired culture as a whole in the earlier decades of the movie that twenty years later, its almost my mission to lay it out for the next generation. The Hobbit trilogy was also very good, and although not as clean, also provided with an extension of the Middle-Earth universe.
Let's just not talk about the modern Netflix series now. Every family has a black sheep.
What I wouldn’t give to have been a teenager when those were released. The massive impact of Tolkien’s work will never be calculable
Yes, yes. The Hobbit trilogy was... "Very good". 🙃
@@lisazoria2709 You have to give credit where its due. It was good but unpolished.
Great commentary, thank you.
I was working on Featherston Street that day, which was just 450m, or a 2 minutes walk away for where the procession began. Sadly, my Grouch of a manager wouldn’t allow us to view the LOTR Premiere here in Wellington.
Still gutted to this day.
Dang. Well with the new movie announcements maybe there’ll be another NZ premiere!
Wow, wow, wow.... kill off one of the Hobbits for drama is one of the craziest Hollywood things I've ever heard. Those people are nutz.
I love this tribute. Simply inspiring. Talk about beating the odds!
For real! Glad you enjoyed
Combining Rohan and Gondor into one kingdom and consequently cutting Helm's Deep seems relatively sane, if one has to bow to inevitable constraints. However cutting the Balrog, wtf. And I'm sure there would have been many more "issues".
Yeah If it’s just one movie I can see that, but yeah I mean would Gandalf fall off screen or something? Kind of an important plot point
It only seems that way if you have no understanding nor respect for the story.
Thank you for summarizing a segment of a book which I would never buy/read. Fascinating.
A few years later they successfully ruined a Tolkien novel - The Hobbit.
A few years after that, they redeemed The Hobbit by making The Rings Of Power.
Quentin Tarantino directing a two-hour version of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy? That would be like getting stormy daniels and donald trump to play Mary and Joseph in a Gospel film. Some things are just blasphemous by default.
It's already difficult to adapt a book in a 2 hours movie. I can't imagine doing it for a trilogy. The proposed changed are scary!
I think it would had been difficult to find a serious director for such a project. Anyone with a little common sense and knowledge of the fandom would know it's suicidal professionally.
Making a trilogy out of one book wasn't a much better idea though...
I remember return of the king in theaters omg the big screen of the epic battle was crazy
Auuugh I can’t even imagine how amazing that would’ve been
to be fair: the hobbits being barefoot all the time sounds exactly like it's up tarantino's alley
Q How Lord of the Rings Was Nearly Destroyed in Development?
A Harvey Weinstein
Jackson had his own epic journey defeating a Balrog of his own.
All those who couldn't see past the end of their noses, can eat 💩
Something like The Lord of the Rings will never happen again as Hollywood is even worse now than it was back then.
Thats why we have an Orc that looks like Harvey Weinstein at the battle of the Pellanor fields.
Wow, such a powerful story! No doubt one of the best movies ever made.
Weinstein also almost ruined Princess Mononoke, but no cuts 🗡️
The best movie ever done.
Really cool documentary. I had no idea about this history.
Thanks! Shocked me too when I first heard of it
Up yours Harvey
Learning this story just disgusts me. I am glad Peter Jackson cut ties with Mirmax.
I wonder how many amazing films we never got because they faced obstruction like this and didn’t prevail
@@billusher2265 scary to think about, we only hear about the ones who survived
New Line Cinema, the house that Freddy Krueger build.
Masterpiece
Not enough people give Robert Shaye credit for the existence of these movies. Without his insane risk Peter Jackson never gets to make these movies.
He truly put everything on the line with New Line
New line will forever be geniusses for stepping up.
Love this edit, a job well done Hayden Myers, you should be a director....
Thanks so much!!
Director may or may not be the direction I’m actually taking the channel 👀
If you’re interested, very soon here I’ll be launching my Patreon and the content on there will explain the direction of the channel as well as document my own journey into filmmaking as I’ve started working on film sets
Well put together video. Good work.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
read imagine anything - the book behind the production, if you want all the details. wonderful book!
Yes! This video only scrapes the surface, there was so much I had to leave out for time but the details are wild
When an absolute chad director meets an absolute gigachad studio. I still can't believe this trilogy happened and how good it was. I dont think we'll see anything like this happen again. The story, the production, the scope, the scale, the trust people had in each other's work. Its pretty insane for such a cynical industry.
Lol I am tempted to change the title to your first sentence lol
This magnificent trilogy was made at the right time. How blessed we all are to be able to experience it to this day!
Easily the greatest movie trilogy of all time.
This video deserves more eyes on it.
Born and bred in NZ. I read the Hobbit and LOTR in the 90s as a kid. Fast forward to earlys 2000s I would have never guessed this would have happened in my little country, it was a truly amazing time and those movies still hold up today.
Dang that whole experience must’ve been so special, I’d be so proud to be a NZ local!
I thought I knew everything about these movies, this was news to me. Thanks for making a great mini documentary!
Glad you enjoyed it! I have another Lotr video that goes over just how much unused footage there is, you might really enjoy it!
Getting LotR to be made: “3 movies is too long, make it 2 and kill off a main character”
Getting the Hobbit to be made: “2 movies is too short, make it a trilogy and throw in a bunch more characters”
It's too bad Warner had the rights at that time, New Line could've done The Hobbit so much better
@@mythwest Yeah, it's all been said already, but trying to recreate the tone of LotR into a prequel like The Hobbit was such a disappointment, Del Toro would've made something really special
@@dysn3961 Have you seen Lindsay Ellis's video essay series on the hobbit movies? They were really amazing, she even interviewed a hobbit cast member in NZ
@@mythwest Yes! It's a really good series and super indepth with all the complications that went into its production
I think one again this shows that we should, just give artists unrestricted funds. Every great movie seems to have this story of almost being destroyed by Hollywood moneymen, and every bad movie a story of it being worn down to what we got from something that might have been great.
Well, only the very rare committed, passionate, and talented ones. Almost all art is garbage. But don’t let that stop you from giving all your money to artists.
He should do what miyazaki did, sent hin a bloody sword encraved with the Works: "no cuts"
That’s the most gangster thing I’ve heard of from a director
New Line CInema: not all heroes wear capes
This trilogy is really a miracle
And that sinks even more when you watch the behind the scene. I dont know how the fuck they pulled that out while keeping the writting and narrative in that level.
Can you imagine how long the extended version would be if they had squished the story into 2 movies?
For sure I mean There’s already at least dozens of hours of unused material even with three movies lol (I have a video essay about that you might be interested in!)
Has that sizzle reel shown at Cannes ever been made publicly available? It would be quite neat to see which parts they got to experience.
I’ve never heard of it being released but dang yeah that’d be cool
Well Bob, one of the Hobbits was technically killed off. When Frodo leaves at the end, thats basically him dying and transcending to a greater plain with Bilbo
You still age and die in the undying lands if you are mortal. So Frodo and Bilbo (and Sam) all died there. It's really only a haven for the Elves because things change very slowly there which goes well with the Elves immortality.
Two more movies to be made - Tom Bombadil (from crossing the Brandiwine to the entrance to Bree0 and the Cleansing of the Shire. Done by Jackson or someone closely associated.
Imagine if Peter Jackson just made those as short films 👁
If only Hobbit was that good. Missed opportunity
Oh yes. 1 movie instead of 3, less stupidity, less disappointment, less dead and maimed animals 😢
It's a shame the Hobbit didn't work out half as well as LotR...
It is, the definitive video essays (in 4 parts) that I’d recommend that break down how it fell apart are by Lindsay Ellis, they’re really in depth and fascinating, and she even travels to NZ and interviews one of the actors that played a dwarf
It is crazy that Return of the King did not any oscar for best actor, yet manages to tie itself for one of the movies with the most oscars ever won
Absolutely. I know the ensemble cast made it unlikely for a best actor Oscar, but at least they could’ve nominated Sawise/ Austin Hill
an exhilarating video. thank you, Mythwest for your work
Glad you enjoyed it! Heads up I have another Lotr video that I think you'd also enjoy about all the unseen footage from the trilogy
wow what a beautiful story you told mythwest, i actually started to weep at 8:33 bravo
Dang that’s high praise! I’m so glad you enjoyed it
Quentin and Harvey were two peas in a pod. Quentin is a creep 100%.
Tough, Harvey Weinstein was way much worst of the worst and a total monster that he is.
Scary to think how terrible this movie could have been. Perhaps even worse than Rings of Power?
Honestly yeah, it would’ve ranked as one of the worst adaptations in history. To condense and cut so many details as they wanted, I’m convinced would’ve left it as a more formulaic and pretty confusing movie
Ty Peter Jackson
So Peter decided to butcher The Hobbit a few years later…
While part of it can certainly be chalked up to Peter, there was a lot of corporate meddling by Warner, the most comprehensive video essays about this are by Lindsay Ellis
They literally won every oscar except the best actors and actress!
Which honestly Samwise should’ve been at least nominated for best supporting actor!!
@@mythwest Sam Elliot and Andy Serkis were both worthy of nominations
Ian as Gandalf was nominated in fotr
@@Romino94 Gandalf the Grey GOAT