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A Brief History of Post Rock
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From 1960s' experimental rock to 70s' German krautrock; Brian Eno to Talk Talk and Bark Psychosis; Slint, Stereolab, and Tortoise; till the representative post-rock bands Mogwai, Sigur Rós, God Speed You! Black Emperor, and post rock in Asia!
0:00 Intro
0:26 Post rock characteristics
1:02 The early roots of post rock
2:57 Talk Talk
4:42 UK: Too Pure Records and Disco Inferno
7:08 Bark Psychosis and the birth of Post Rock
8:49 US: Louisville Scene
10:20 US: Chicago Scene
11:41 Canada: Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Do Make Say Think, Silver Mt.Zion
13:59 Sigur Rós
15:02 Mogwai
16:52 Other 90s Post Rock
17:44 Post rock in the 21st century
19:49 Post Rock in Asia
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Some acts related:
Red Krayola, The Velvet Underground, Silver Apples, Can, Krautrock, Neu!, David Bowie, Brian Eno, This Heat, Talk Talk, Mark Hollis, Spirit of Eden, Sigur Rós, Mogwai, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Radiohead, Laughing stock, Too Pure Records, Disco Inferno, Pram, Stereolab, Moonshake, Seefeel, Laika, Lætitia Sadier, Bark Psychosis, Simon Reynolds, Phil Spector, Steve Reich, Brian Eno, Touch and Go Records, Thrill Jockey Records, Slint, Spiderland, Rodan, The For Carnation, June of 44, Rachel's, Tortoise, Gastr del Sol, Isotope 217, Jim O'Rourke, Squirrel Bait, Bastro, The Sea and Cake, Constellation Records, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Do Make Say Think, Fly Pam Am, Thee Silver Mt. Zion, Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven, F♯ A♯ ∞, Sigur Rós, Ágætis Byrjun, Mogwai, Mogwai Fear Satan, Swans, Dirty Three, Cul de sac, Trans Am, Labradford, Don Caballero, Macha, Explosions In the Sky, Mono, 65daysofstatic, God Is an Astronaut, This Will Destroy You, Caspian, Maybeshewill, sleepmakeswaves, We Lost the Sea, The Evpatoria Report, Red Sparowes, pg.lost, Ef, Yndi Halda, And So I Watch You from Afar, The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place, Boris, ISIS, Alcest, Jesu, Pelican, Russian Circles, Mono, world's end girlfriend, te', downy, jizue, 惘闻Wangwen, 甜梅号Sugar Plum Ferry, 文雀Sparrow, 沼泽zhao ze
Thanks for watching! :)
Name your fav post-rock bands here! 😁😁😁
Hammock. Then comes explosions in the sky, mogwai, Andrey fall, we lost the sea, and a lot more. Even some screamo bands like envy or post harcore like thursday do some good post rock music
Good shout on Hammock thank you!!
Godspeed
Mono, their first couple albums were my favorite
Gotta be Mono, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, God Is An Astroanut
Swans deserve a whole show themselves. Michael Gira, to me, is a genius.
Also kinda a jerk lol.
I like the swans & angels of light.
Both great live shows.
@@jonathancake5295what did he do?
God Damn the Sun!
jokes on you, i’m playing video games WHILE listening to this
Sneaky!
*sideye*
How does this girl from halfway around the world know more about off-beat music than anyone in my zip code? I can't quite get enough of her.
Haha thanks. Take a guess if I have an easy time finding people in my zip code who like these bands?
We’re all the same, weirdos who are sad because we can’t find similar weirdos. I’ve been looking for the right drummer for 10 years and I’ve basically given up and started learning drums myself. It’s 2024 and the one man band is back on.
Props for bringing up talk talk, they’re a criminally underrated band that deserves more acknowledgement
R/Indieheads has Spirit of Eden on their 80s Essentials list. It's where I first heard of them, and I've been a fan since that's first listen. So good!
I wouldn't really call Talk Talk underrated.
@@dostwood5103 to be fair when Mark Hollis passed away the damn Grammy’s didn’t even mention him in their ‘in memory of’ tribute.. also not enough people talk about them or their impact on post rock. People know their biggest hit, but if not they know no doubts cover of it..
Yeah, Laughing Stock is one of my all-time favorite albums!
Exactly! I've been into post rock for a long time and I just found out about them like a year ago
i am a simple man. i see post rock, i click
It’s wonderful that, finally, someone on TH-cam has referenced the Japanese group Boris. And lucidly explain what “post rock” is exactly.
Boris did a dope track for Confessions (2010)
But she didn't mention MONO
@@jeremyserwer2586 yeah she did. It's at the end
We Lost The Sea. Their album "Departure songs" is quintessential post rock. Its an album that every post rock fan should listen to
I'm into a lot of post-rock bands but I still learned a lot from this video. :) Gonna check out Seefeel and Bark Psychosis
Seefeel is one of the best to ever do it. Quique is such a unique and blissed out record
If you like seefeel I would say halica by sweet trip has a very similar sound
Bark Psychosis is one of the best most blissful bands I’ve heard. Hex hypnotizes me on each listen
Suggest good songs
a canadian band I didn’t hear mentioned that draws alot from post-rock is Broken Social Scene. it’s like the bare bones of post-rock tweaked for a more poppier and indie rock sound and it’s amazing. You Forgot It People is one of the most fun albums I have ever heard. their self-titled is really good too.
Also love them, good shout!
Finally a BSS fan! Cheers from dagobah!
My all time favourite post-rock album is "Tales of the night forest " by Black Hill & Silent Island. I used to listen to it during moments of stress to ease my anxiety, especially when I was on a turbulent flight, or during the strangest and loneliest parts of lockdown. It was like dipping into a warm bath every time I heard the opening chords of "A wild river to take you home". I still dearly cherish it. Black Hill also has a ton of really wonderful albums, and they're sold in really reasonably-priced bundles on bandcamp. I just really wish there were physical copies of the album so I could enjoy the album art on a larger scale, or a poster, something. The night forest album has this beautiful illustration of a hunted deer laying on the forest floor, and it gives me chills.
In the early 2000's I was listening to music that Included, "Godspeedyoublackemperor", "Mogwai", "Sigur Ros" "God is an Astronaut" and "Explosions in the sky". A band from that era who you missed is "Aereogramme". Their debut album "A story in white" is the greatest album I have ever heard. From all the music I've listened to over the years it still stands out highly over anything else as my favourite. The album uses a lot of dynamics, with its structure always developing and changing, and no element ever overstaying its welcome. The full album is only about 40mins long. I appreciate the sincere heavy moments along with the long tender beautiful comedowns. The listener is brought on a beautifully balanced and realized journey. It is an album of raw heart and there is subtle musicality everywhere. To get a sense of where their music stands compared to other post rock music, they land short of average in expansiveness and probably go above average on the heavier rock side(even though the tender quieter moments take up more of the album than the heavier moments which often come in angry and strong, sometimes with driving rhythms, sometimes with euphoric crescendos) . If you love post-rock do yourself a favour and listen to this album twice over and loud, the next time you have a car journey. Well done "Aereogramme". Thank you for the music and sorry you are so underrated and forgotten it seems.
i adore this comment. Such a great job promoting what is one of my favorite albums and bands ever.
@@sunshaped Appreciate that. Thanks.
Your comment made me interested, I'll be sure to check out that album soon!
Tracks 5 through to 10 is flawless.
My fav post-rock bands include: Bosch's with You, God was an Astronaut, and My Sleeping Karma...
Daniel lanois and Brian Eno are really influential too. Two "rock" producers who basically went past rock. They are definitely more ambient but I think they are both
worth mentioning.
Great video! I love post-rock (GY!BE is my favorite band of all time) and everything that came out of it. I'm also super into ambient/drone/soundscapes, so there's a good overlap there. Makes me think on how a myriad of musicians using different instruments/techniques aim for a very specific type of atmosphere that is simultaneously reflexive and beautiful.
I think my introduction to post rock was Salaryman's eponymous debut and from there my love of all things post rock grew, but thank you for the video, I learnt a hell of lot and some future listening material.
Great overview. I love many of the later bands but the importance of Talk Talk can't be overstated.
Thank you so much for mentioning Seefeel here... there first album was miles ahead of the pack, which they attribute to their inexperience at the time. They were learning how to record instruments and vocals and ended up recording an absolute masterpiece in Quique.
I’m so happy that you mentioned Stereolab in this video! I’ve seen them 6 times in concert and they are so much better live then in studio.
Jelly! Best band ever!
Hi, Mogwai is also the name of the cute furry version of a gremlin. I'm pretty sure they took the name from the 80's movie, "Gremlins". However, in the movie the Mogwai was purchased in a Chinese mystic/magic shop. I always thought it was a made up name, now I know.
Thank you for another wonderful way to spend 21:55 minutes
Such a QT of a toy. So evil! Such a great metaphor! I'm glad you enjoyed the 21:55 minutes (most skip out after 3-4 mins).
I really enjoyed this video. Congratulations!! Of course, everyone has their own favorites and you cannot mention everyone, but you really did your research and did a fine good job!! I think your video can really help people discover more great stuff on their own. As far as I'm concerned, A.R. Kane, Seefeel and Bark Psychosis are just amazing. And thank you SO MUCH for giving some love to Disco Inferno, surely one of the greatest & most underrated bands of all time.
Here are some amazing records (in my opinion) I would also like to mention: "Onomatopoeia" by Butterfly Child, "Houdini" by Long Fin Killie, "Electronic Sound Constructions" by Crescent, "Further" by Flying Saucer Attack, "The Cycles of Days and Seasons" by Hood, "Euphoria" by Insides, "Herd of Instinct" by Orang, "Calla" by Calla, "Quiet City" by Pan American, "Bunny" by Simon Scott and "Ink" by Zelienople.
As far as more recent music goes, I would definitely recommend "Through Broken Summer" and "Weathering" by epic45 (such a wonderful and underrated band) as well as "Inside The Rose" and "Field of Reeds" (the latter being, perhaps, a more challenging listen, but a genuine and timeless masterpiece nonetheless imo) by These New Puritans, both of these albums being produced by Graham Sutton (Bark Psychosis).
I also encourage everyone to check out Jeanette Leech's book "Fearless" which was published in 2017.
Thanks again for the video and keep up the good work!!
Hi Stella, this is another well crafted and enjoyable video from you. I wanted to ask if you are familiar with the Jeanette Leech book 'Fearless:The Making of Post-Rock', which provides a detailed overview of this strangely compelling music. Like yourself, the author looks to groups like The Velvet Underground, Can and the soundscapes of Brian Eno as key early influences and also makes connections with the New York downtown scene of the early 80s - Sonic Youth, Swans, Ut etc, describing these groups as taking the 'rock out of rock'. I have been lucky to see Mogwai and Godspeed You! Black Emperor live and the quiet to loud dynamic becomes even more pronounced in a live setting. The peaks were truly intense as are those on the extraordinary Slint album 'Spiderland'. I also share your fondness for The Sea and Cake whose music is both comforting and unusual at the same time! In any case this was a great video and check out the book if you haven't already.
Thanks for your comment and recs. I didn't know there is a book about post-rock! Should've read it before I made this vid! Am glad you enjoyed this vid and yes - The Sea and Cake are one of a kind!
@@StellasEncounteryou could also try John Rob’s book - Death to Trad Rock. And CHORCHAZADE!!!
color me impressed, you really did your homework. To me the masterpiees of the genre are Spiderland by Slint, Hex by Bark Psychosis and Ocean Songs by Dirty Three (the song deep waters in particular is incredible). Tortoise is great too
Wow, such a great list and context. You gave me a lot of bands to get to know! Thanks!
If I might recommend something, there's a Brazilian instrumental band called "Labirinto" (Labyrinth) which sounds great! Their album Anatema is one of my all time favourites!
Loved your video, Stella!
i'd say The Door's "The End" is perhaps the first real full blown post-rock song, greatly influencing Swans and others as well as being very reminiscent of what would come in later like Godspeed you! Black Emperor, Swans, Mogwai, Sigur Rós, etc
I think prog rock, psyrock, krautrock, postrock and slowcore have a lot of similarities which make it hard to draw boundaries (i.e. long songs, many layers, instrumental passages, "trance-inducing" repetitions, experimentation etc., but I think the Doors are usually grouped as a psyrock/prog-rock band ^^
It's amazing that you did this video. Thank you so much! One extraordinary band you didn't mention (though I know they haven't released music in a long while) is The Evpatoria Report. On the other hand, from the Asian side, I love that you mentioned World's End Girlfriend. Along Maybeshewill they are my most beautiful recent discovery.
Great video! I'd like to mention some awesome bands that not mentioned in the video: April Rain, Kafabindünya, Crows in The Rain, Krobak, Oiseaux-Tempête...
I appreciate when people acknowledge that most genres have flexible boundaries.
Speaking of boundaries, I have a "by region" playlist and I do have some city-level plans lined-up for it. DC is a great suggestion, thank you. I think I also have a plan for a George Clinton episode somewhere in the channel to-do.
I have a lot of time for JAMC and the other's you've mentioned. I'd like to do those treatments to my best ability.
Thank you for the kind words and your reflections. Have a great day!
@@StellasEncounter If you love to classify the music as "by-region" -I should've understand that when I see the "post-rock in Asia" part of the video- I can suggest you some Turkish post-rock bands to meet another culture -as a Turk of course.
-Kafabindünya th-cam.com/video/HahcOlu8B-4/w-d-xo.html
-Change of Plans th-cam.com/video/F9FmVK0rC5o/w-d-xo.html
-irtifakaybediyoruz! th-cam.com/video/U3MxXj-4jic/w-d-xo.html
another awesome video, thank you. some other postrock 90s bands we love: bowery electric, magnog, hovercraft xoc&c
Going to see Godspeed You! Black Emperor next weekend! Can’t wait :)
Awesome, I hope you enjoy!
there’s this album called ‘The Ascension’ by Glenn Branca which started the No Wave, post-rock sub genre, and had a massive influence on Swans, especially in To Be Kind.
it’s also really fucking good, have you heard of it?
checking, I can really hear how Swans are influenced by them! So ahead of their time!
@@StellasEncounter indeed
I'll have to check it out. I have some mild exposure to the Swans.
Actually, No New York (1978 compilation) started the no wave genre, with Suicide and Theoretical Girls as major influences
@@melomano2571 yes you’re correct he didn’t start it, but he did have an influence on the sound of the time and place
I'm loving all of your videos. I just came here from your Archers of Loaf video and I feel like I *have* to recommend two particular post-rock albums that some good friends of mine played on... I'm from southeastern North Carolina, not too far from Chapel Hill where Archers of Loaf are from. I've seen MANY shows at the Cat's Cradle in Chapel Hill! I thought you might like to hear some North Carolina post-rock! These bands are from the beach town Wilmington, North Carolina, about 2.5hrs drive from Chapel Hill.
These albums are largely unknown outside of our area in southeastern North Carolina, but I'm absolutely serious when I say.. they're pivotal works, actual masterpieces of the genre to me. No kidding. This first album I'm going to recommend is very special to the people who know it and especially to people like myself who had the privilege of being able to see almost every show they ever played live.
So, here they are:
-The Title Ceremony - cheerful impressions upon arrival in the country (2005)
-WAUL - 7 Cedars (2018)
You can easily find both albums on Bandcamp or by Googling for them.
The one and only The Title Ceremony record is a free download. No name your price, just completely free to download and stream. It's VERY influenced by Explosions in the Sky, but the entire social circle was also steeped in Godspeed, Mogwai, Do Make Say Think and Tortoise. The undisputed masterpiece of the album is 'Asia Major, Asia Minor' which tops out at just under 24 minutes. Trying to look at the album critically & separating my nostalgia and personal history with the band, I'd say the biggest complaint you could make about this album is that it maybe repeats some sections about 4 to 8 bars too many, but I think you could make similar criticisms of early Explosions in the Sky records as well. All in all, I wish the band had been bigger and Cheerful Impressions Upon Arrival In The Country had taken its rightful place next to Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Die, Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Live Forever. I truly believe that's where it belongs. *shrug*
WAUL is a newer band from the same town (Wilmington) that is probably already done making music at this point, unfortunately. Their lineup also features drummer Brandon Lamm from The Title Ceremony who was really a signature in that band. He's heavy on the cymbals during crescendos and he beats the drums harder & more passionately than anyone I've ever seen play drums. He brings the same energy to WAUL. The band is only 3 members, but the first time I heard them I could hardly believe the wall of sound they created with only guitar, bass & drums. I think a large part of this has to do with the bass which is so heavily distorted (the only word I can think to use is CRUNCHY!! which is probably not the correct usage, lol) that it sounds like a clean bass + distorted guitar layered into one instrument just via tuning & amplification. To my ears, anyway.
They put out two REALLY great albums, but their second album 7 Cedars feels like a living organism of a record. I wouldn't dare belittle it by calling it a "concept album", but it's got a theme. It's in the woods. It's the feeling of being in the woods of North Carolina at night. It's got field recordings from those woods. The bugs, the wind in the trees, shooting off a few rounds in the middle of absolutely fucking nowhere... it's all there on the album. It was literally recorded live in a house in the woods by a good friend of the band using a mobile recording rig. And it sounds studio perfect. Brilliantly mixed & mastered, but *crucially* NOT TRACKED. The ENTIRE record is a SINGLE stem! That's the deal with the mobile rig. That's the limitation that had to be worked with and that's the kind of limitation that basically demands perfection. You get great sound, but you also get no tracking so you have to play the entire thing live as a band. The band rehearsed it enough to get every song on the record right in a single take. No time for flubs.. play it perfect, or else. And they did. It's INCREDIBLE. As far as style, it's a heavier take on post-rock, MAYBE closer to post-metal considering the bass's extreme distortion, but it vacillates between tastes of heavy guitar and these soaring melodic guitar tones that ring out these scale-y riffs that sound like they're echoing into the stratosphere. It's one of my favorite records of the entire past 10 years. Personal favorite song on the record: The Woods (of course). I hope anyone that sees this comment will check both of these records out. They're SO UNDERAPPRECIATED! PLEASE HELP FIX THAT!
LOVE FROM NC, Y'ALL!
Apologies for the lag in my reply, there is a lot to unpack here.
I'm really glad you've explored my channel a bit. I hope you continue to do so and continue to enjoy it. I have more in the works, and plans for a lot more also.
I have had a look on YT and on Bandcamp for your friends, and I am impressed and did enjoy.
I am more impressed given your story about laying down a recording in one go, that's incredibly hard to do. I have several outtakes of me sneezing, coughing, fumbling lines, AC units making too much noise, vehicles, children outside. So yeah, I completely understand the achievement.
I'm not sure I am in a position to promote anybody at the minute. I will be announcing a discord server quite soon, if you and your friends wanted to join that and promote there, that might be useful. *sssh though, it's a secret right now*
Thanks for taking the time reply reply thoughtfully, have a great weekend!
also - great username!
This is super dense and incredibly helpful! Especially for me to connect the dots of influence that I ultimately draw in my own work as an experimental instrumental artist. I’ve heard of a lot of these bands before but never really listened aside from GY!BE, but they’re deeply intertwined with what I do and love (and a good friend of mine used to be in one of the bands mentioned here, lol) now I finally know where to start listening !!!
Awesome! I'm glad you got a take away from it.
What band?
@@LunarMoth This Will Destroy You, they're from Texas. my friend goes by the name Black Taffy now and does atmospheric ambient screwed beats. the rest of the band is in a project called Disassembler and one runs a recording studio in dallas called Elmwood studios!
Wow, amazing video, it encompass the basics and a bit more, I was very much into post rock around 10 years ago and you have reminded me of a lot of music I used to listen. Also I have started to dig the massive Stereolab discography this year and it is amazing! I came across your video randomly, but surely will check the one on Krautrock and the others, thanks a lot! 🙌
Thanks for your comment, glad you've found your way~! Hope you enjoy :)
Maserati from Athens, Georgia, USA also had a few post rock like tunes. Thanks for the upload.
I became aware of Post-Rock through a little song "Eskimo Kiss" by The Years of Rice and Salt - which I have come to realize through your video could be classified as a form of cresendo-core.
The song doesn't pick up until 2 minutes in, but if you have patience, it is totally worth a full listen.
Btw, your video's outro caught me off guard and had me laughing so hard 😂 in a good way.
hahahaha glad it made you laugh!! :p
I truly hope that you actually enjoy this stuff than simply educating the public about it. Thanks for mentioning Stereolab; my favorite group of all time; even knocking The Beatles off of my top slot for many years.
I love Stereolab!!
Thanks for brining up Mono. Love those guys. Some bits of trivia: one of the GYBE samples you referenced 'The sky was beautiful on fire' etc. Is from an unreleased movie and is voiced by Lee Marvin who was a famous Hollywood actor back in the day. Also Mogwai's name comes from the movie Gremlins - the mogwai are the cute fluffy version of the gremlins before they turn evil
Thailand have a few bands worth a mention, Inspirative, Follows, Hope The Flowers and Desktop Error. I love Bugs of Phonon’s, A Sudden Rain from Taiwan(I think) as well. Very good video and informative, you tackle the subject well. I have my idea on post rock, post punk, dream pop and shoegaze and I think there is a crossover at certain points and it’s not worth getting hung up on getting the definition 100% right. Excellent video.
I thought I had replied to you earlier. I must have not hit send.
I'm not super familiar with the music scene in Thailand, I'm keen to have a look and learn though, so thank you for the suggestions.
I agree, the definitions don't stand the test of time very well, they change and adapt as they should to what was/is a fluid movement. I think they do serve well as a good starting point, and I think that role of facilitating discovery has value.
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Have a great day!
I love this video so much and I've only just started but those teletubbies got me
I have a plan to sneak Teletubbies into as many videos as possible
I'm glad you enjoyed. Have a great weekend!
Toe, an amazing PR band from japan. Seriously, this band is just fantastic!
The 4AD records had a big influence on Post Rock. Check out No Motion by Dif Juz. Wonderful.
I love this video so much, i learn so much about post rock, keep it coming stella! ^^
Thank you! Will do!
Slint é a melhor banda de rock de todos os tempos! Obrigado pelo vídeo! 💕
Thank You for this video! Although, to be honest, I felt like I am watching documentary about my favourite music genre!(And I really like documentaries!). You have done an extensive and very detailed research on this genre. I did not know that post rock goes that far into history.
I am subscribed and going to watch other yourideos, just because lately I am really interested into music history(specially into alternative genres). Thank You, this is best video on youtube, that you can find to learn about post rock! 🙂👍 Greetings from Latvia! 🇱🇻
thank you!! I hope you enjoy the channel! :)
Got to see Cul De Sac a few times in the 1990s (they supposedly coined the term "post rock"). Boston had a vibrant Post Rock scene in the mid to late 90s. Great video.
Another fascinating, funny, funky video. And you mentioned a few bands I hadn't heard of. Well done Stella!
Oh and Dianogah are well worth checking out too
I can get behind funky as a compliment! Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for the suggestion! Have a great day!
Louisville, Kentucky had a wonderful, and colourful, music scene in the late 1980s through the 1990s. I didn't live there, but I have spent many long weekends seeing bands. One of my favourites was The Belgian Waffles.
And Stereolab are one of my favourite bands ever, though I am biased.
Well done. Thank you for these videos.
HELL YEAH. any discussion of experimental rock music without mention of This Heat would be a failure.
The Dirty Three, that's Warren Ellis on violin! Some might know him from being in Nick Cave's band. 17:12
I think you should have emphasised way more on Labradford, as historically, they are on the same level as Tortoise, maybe even more. I bought all those records you mentioned when they were released (and did quite a few videos about some of those myself, hahaha), and I remember how in the record shops, Labradford was the catalyst of all of that, outside of the Simon Reynolds bubble. Also, as you mentioned Talk Talk extensively, O Rang deserves more than a mention. Early Post rock influence, as you mention This Heat, Dome deserves a huge mention. And of course, there are tons more, but we only have the day ^^
Thanks for watching, and sharing your knowledge on this!
Andrés And between radiohead, the doors and labradford, which will be your choice and why?
@@sebastianalvapachas2041 not sure I understand what you mean : Labradford is the only post rock band of the bunch
Mentioning Labradford is an achievement in itself. I love them - they have a very moody and special sound but historically... their sound was approximated within the ambient and ethereal wave frameworks and their existence was only a matter of time. People need Labradford albums. But do everyone? Not my contrabassist friend. She prefers Rachel's.
That said, an average 4h high-budget documentary series would never gone to the lengths of mentioning, let alone fleshing out Labradford or .O.Rang. But don't worry - their legacies, however unpopular, are documented all over the internet. It's right there a couple RYM searches or Google searches away. This is why music nerds do all this cataloging stuff - essays can not cover everything and they can range from introductions (like this) to specifics (like a docuseries episode) to the catalogs, to the backrooms.
Basically what I'm saying is, look at how much text I can write. Then measure the substance - it's not a lot. This is not super interesting for someone getting into post-rock. But for someone who is on the lookout for experiencing the music of bands like Labradford or .O.Rang? Life changing, with a very slim chance.
Like, Cul De Sac was mentioned too? High standards much
I’d love to see her do a history of Progressive Rock or Space Rock.
I have to thank John Peel for getting me into post-rock, playing Godspeed and Mogwai. RIP John
He was the best!
Very good introduction to the genre.
because i am elderly & loved The Cure many decades ago our 30yr old lad put me onto a tune by 64 Days of Static feat Robert Smith which then led me to discover wonderful music from Caspian to Godspeed & pg lost & the Swans album featuring a hopeful bunny & much more - which inspired my commenting potentially rather patronisingly to some pink Floyd listeners how there’s a diverse range of music available which must be more interesting than buying or hearing tired re issues of music they’d played a million times before.
i was completely ignored.
🐢😁👍
Thanks for this , Post Rock means a lot to me, changed my musical life in '97 , and still does.
I think you missed a very early entry into post-rock or art rock whatever you want to call it. The Residents and all the denizens of Ralph's Records such as Renaldo & the Loaf, Art Bears, Tuxedomoon, Snakefinger etc. The Residents were big on deconstructing rock. If you haven't heard them, check out the Resident's Commercial Album which has 40 one minute songs.
Whoever is criticizing you saying music shouldn’t be analyzed the way you do it is out of their minds. Ignore those critics.
Hahah its okay! Thanks for the support! :)
"In north-central Kansas, where woodlands are sparse and prairies expansive, rows of creamy-buff, brown-striped stone fence posts grace the landscape. These stately posts are shaped from the native rock known as Fencepost limestone, or simply post rock. Now tourist attractions, the posts are also regional trademarks that bespeak the resourcefulness of early Kansas settlers." from University Press of Kansas copy promoting the book LAND OF THE POST ROCK
I looked this up because I was skeptical. I am thoroughly impressed that there does indeed exist a book called the Land Of Post Rock. I should have stumbled across it during my research. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Apologies for my slow reply. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
...excellent docu, Talk Talk are on another planet that we still haven't found yet, truly immense music...
Thanks for the feedback. They're residents of Planet Stella's Encounter!
Did she just blow past Slint and their influence on post-rock with just a name drop?! That is just criminal…
Cool video! It's a good reminder that post-rock isn't just one thing, like 10+ minute sparse guitar instrumentals (ain't nothin' wrong with that) and it's more like the different ways bands took a new direction. Personally I don't think genres have to be limiting, unless you make it a box that stuff has to fit into, "that's not punk!!!" etc. That said, I didn't really have Stereolab in the same category as GY!BE, but now I see it! Just kinda taking the idea in opposite directions. Maybe they should form a crossover band
Excellent video. Post-Rock/Post-Metal has been my favorite genre(s) for a long while, but I'm seeing I'm missing out on a LOT of bands. I love just how evocative the genre is with the sweeping textures and atmospheres. It's almost like a landscape painting in musical form. I always find inspiration when listening to it.
"landscape painting in musical form" - you got it!!
Yes Dirty Three! So love that band, not sure about don caballero in this list as they are pure math but their side project the storm and stress for sure belongs on here. Love all your vids!
I'm glad you mentioned Wang Wen, Break the Cars is one of my favorite post-rock songs :D
This is a marvellous primer on post-rock and it's origins. Top work! 👌
Glad you enjoy it!
Weird, apparently I have a bunch of "post rock" records, but I had no idea there was a thing called "post rock"...
Another cool vid, thx.
I absolutely LOVE Jizue. They just dropped a new album and it's their finest work yet. One band that I was surprised you did not mention from Japan was toe. Nice job on the video, glad I found your channel!
Love Jizu! Thanks for watching!! toe were mentiond in the 'math rock' video!
Enloom is a great post rock group that disbanded sadly in 2014, and never really got any recognition.. but their albums In the Lantern Cusp and Portraits of a Vibrant Life are magical
I absolutely agree on your final comment on music taxonomy! Despite me disliking putting a label on some of my favourite music, i still try hard to find names and labels for the things i really like so i can find more. been wanting to listen to more Swans recently and this video made me realise post-rock in general is a genre i really need to explore and would absolutely love
One influence on post rock that doesn't get mentioned a lot is avant-garde composer Glenn Branca. Definitely hear him echoed in Godspeed You! Black Emperor.
Oh and props for mentioning Steve Reich.
Yes, should've mentioned Glenn Branca here. I also made a video about "No Wave" which featured him. Thanks for watching!
@@StellasEncounter ooh nice! I'll check out. I'm not familiar with no wave.
I always thought Explosions in the Sky was one of the biggest post-rock bands of the last 20 years but maybe that's because i loved Friday Night Lights and got hooked. Gateway drug for me. BTW, i totally agree--taxonomies are fun and useful (for finding new music).
I have had a lot of comments about taxonomy and I felt I had to address it. I don't want to use the negative terms like gate-keeping.\ Regardless of mine or anyone person's frame of reference, having taxonomy does help with people with discovery because it is a common frame of reference that the search engines and streaming site use.
Hi Stella - What an excellent look at the genre & some of the greats like Talk Talk , Stereolab , Sigur Ros & the brilliant & underrated Seefeel. You do an excellent job highlighting the influencers like Can , Neu & Bowie. Really liked 👍& will recommend 👌 ! Take Care 👋
Thanks very much for your thoughtful feedback, it's well received. If you are able to recommend to others, that really is doing me a huge favour. Thank you, and have a great rest of the weekend!.
Yes, good mention of Talk Talk. They were known for their one hit wonder hit MTV video but have so much more.
Nice video, Stella! I’m not sure if the therm post-rock is a useful word or its just a mixed bag. And I wrote an article about it for a newspaper back in 2001. 🙃 I have interviewed the Trans Am drummer and they preferred to be related to the therm space rock. It’s funny how the genre developed from noisy anoying experimental music to melow melodies that would fit as a soundtrack for an insurance company advertisement. But i’m happy the algorythm brought me here. The video has a lot of information and you could transmit and describe so well the post-rock dramatic landscape. I will have to try another deep dive in this cajón de sastre, balaio de gato, catch-all, mixed sac… i hope to see more videos like this. You are so cute! 🤩
Thanks! Trans Am do have some spacey/futuristic stuff...And cool of you to have interviewed them then! :0 And hahaha yeah post-rock could be like insurance com/elevator music sometimes. Glad you liked the video and have a great day! :)
Love a lot of these bands anyway. Kind of tranquil and hazy.
exactly~!!
Such a nice video and im loving the animations, they make me laugh sometimes. I went to a Godspeed You! Black Emperor concert about 6 months ago and it wasnt like any other show i have ever been to. The opening band was a duo of one of the fastest and longest playing drummers i have ever seen and a guitarist soloing for about 45 minutes. Then the main show started and every single person in the theater had earplugs in. Never in my life have i experienced so many layers of sound that can each be paid attention to by themsleves. One of the best sounding shows ever. As well as one of the band members not actually playing an instrument but "playing" the projectors. There were four projectors and watching them quickly change film spools when different parts of songs came on and mixing layers of film to create live practical effects was beautiful. Easily the longest main set ive seen at about 2 hours and 30 minutes compared to the normal 1 hour set. I bought a record from their merch booth and it was handed to me by the violinists 4 year old daughter which was hilarious. to me, Godspeed was always the most emotionally violent music i listened to. To describe their live show, it felt like the earth opened up and we were falling into the the depths of the hell, but in a good way.
Thanks for sharing your story of seeing GYBE live. Beautiful words. Would really love to seem them one day!
@@StellasEncounter i really hope you can!
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Your genre history videos like this one are fantastic, Keep up the good work! (Also, Thanks for adding subtitles!)
One interesting thing I've noticed about Post-Rock is there are a lot of similarities between it and (2000s) Indie Rock. While it doesn't always work, There are many Indie Rock songs that I feel could easily sound like Post-Rock if you slowed them down and removed the vocals, And vice versa.
As for some Post-Rock bands not mentioned here, I quite like We Lost The Sea from Australia, Especially their album "Departure Songs" (The 2-part half-hour long finisher "Challenger" is fantastic), A World Wondered Full from Thailand, Who make dark yet beautiful songs with their fair share of sampled vocals and field recordings, And my personal favourite, Our Last Hope Lost Hope from Sweden, who I'd seriously recommend anyone at all into Post-Rock checks out, their self-titled debut is just stunningly beautiful, That's the only way I can think to describe it.
Glad to meet a like minded person. We are only few. I always wished for a wife who loved post rock, shoegaze and dreampop. Search is still on.
Thanks for this! Not enough people talk about post-rock on TH-cam. I learned about a ton of new bands that I will definitely check out.
I’m always impressed with your musical culture. I’m learning a lot from every videos. And you’re hilarious.
Kudos from Montreal.
haha, thank you!! :)
Wow. I’ve been a fan of this genre for a long time and found it really hard to describe but this video does a solid job of translating its evolution
I hope one day people realize Geezer Lake existed .. I really enjoyed the video, I’ve always wondered what exactly post rock means .. I’m a fan of several of these bands and am excited to be introduced to others
The good thing can say about this quarantine, is meet the post rock's band, especifically A. Silver Mt Zion and Sigur Ros. It is was massage for my ears.
You did a great video explaining these bands and the Branch of the rock genre.
Thanks!
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music for headphones going to and fro work while on train or bus !!!
Stella - thanks for this! I love this kind of content and your style is perfect. Instant Subscriber! I learned alot from this. I also love the young team album and tons of bands you mentioned. I want to check out Bark Psychosis now
Thanks for subbing and am glad that you enjoyed this! Bark Psychosis are great!
Loved the video, you showed some of my favorite songs and I learned a lot about other bands and songs. You should do a playlist with the artists you covered 😝
Thank you for your feedback. Its appreciated and well received. I have a plan to compile and release playlists. At the moment i am struggling with how to make this channel viable. Again, thanks for the kind words, they're well received and much appreciated encouragement.
Well researched as always - dipping into the true roots that a lot of people completely don't know existed. I expected to get all grumpy and go "nooooo!" and don my best keyboard warrior hat.
I'd say the only missing thing is to miss the massive influence Pink Floyd has on the genre.
We played with Silver Apples about 10 years ago, Simeon's setup was amazing and gentle man who had time to spend explaining all the random bits he had.
Mogwai > Bunch of Gen Xers stole their name from the film Gremlins
And Japan's "downy" is massively under-sung - they are brilliant "Meitei Freak"/"Drunken Freak" is monstrous! Difficult to imagine of the impact of that at the time > it was really something different when it hit.
The UK band Japan, nominally labelled New Wave has distinct Post-Rock stylings, and going through any of the members post-band work will find an awful lot of things that are Post-Rock. Check out "Beginning to Melt".
Popol Vuh is another of the Kraut-rock Neu circle to put on the list, especially the "Nosferatu" OST.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and glad you liked the video! It must have been a privileage/pleasure to play with Silver Apples then! He seems like such a gear geek, you must've learned a lot! I'm not terribly familiar with Japan so I'm gonna check them out later! :D
@@StellasEncounter Japan's Nightporter is a good one th-cam.com/video/ZCHg5RitlDw/w-d-xo.html
Screamo would be cool to hear about!
Thanks for taking the time to reply and, thanks for the suggestion. I have a long to-do list, so I can't promise a timeline on when. But, its well noted!
Have a great Sunday!
Thank you so much for this very detailed and informative video, its just what I needed to gain insight to connect the dots between bands I randomly started liking 😄
It makes me happy to know I can help in some small way. I'm glad your enjoying the genre.
Thanks for taking the time out if your day to reply kindly.
Have a great weekend!
Amazing video, funny and you explain really well the weird post-rock scene.
Mono is another great example to include.
Great and informative video! Post-rock has become one of my favorite sub-genres over the past year. Laughing Stock by Talk Talk may take the place as my favorite album of all time, it's just incredible on a spiritual level.
agreed, spiritual level!
Faunts was always a band I was drawn to. They’re more on the electronic-ambient side of post-rock. Feel Love Thinking Of is a bit more structured than their first album High Expectations Low Result…but I think these are both really worth a listen. Never listened to a super amount of post-rock, but Faunts was a real gateway for me at the time. Awesome vid. You really get down into things. 🙌
Wow! Thanks for mentioning us. But we are not worthy enough to be among these fine groups. Many of them inspired us.
Cheers!
@@urlgoon many thanks! 🙏
@@stevenbatke2475 Steven thank you for even finding this comment and responding! Feel Love Thinking Of had a huge effect on me. Still have the CD, and I play it all the time!
@@AdamforPresident2.0 glad to hear it!
The soundtrack of the French series Les Revenants is by Mogwai.
Good to know. I haven't watched the show. Thanks for sharing.
Another great overview of an important sub-genre of rock music. I like how you tied in some of the 80’s bands that experimented with textured noise - I didn’t realize how they were influential to post rock; bands like Talk Talk, but earlier with 70’s bands like Can and Neu! Personally, I think Slint really changed how rock music was written and executed (they really crafted the loud/quiet dynamic that sooo many bands replicated after). I have some listening to do now with Seefeel and Disco Inferno!
Ooh, you also you played a brief snippet of Trans Am! They are awesome. I think someone already mentioned Dianogah, but they are right up there with Tortoise and the Chicago lot of bands from the 90’s to 2000’s. I would add Maserati, Turing Machine, Red Stars Theory, The Mercury Program, and Unwed Sailor as well. Some of them are a little more prog rock than post, but sharing similar elements.
I would also say there were/are a few labels that championed or focused on post rock bands - and you mentioned a bunch - but Temporary Residence Ltd. put out a lot of experimental and post rock since the late 90’s.
One of my fav post bands from the early 00’s was a band called Helms. They are from Boston and played shows with Karate. Anyway, great video as always and I enjoyed your “Stella School” segment. 😂 Cheers!
Am wondering were Slint the first to do the loud/quiet thing? Alternative wise album "Doolittle" kinda represented the style in 1989. But I guess Pixies were more of a typical rock band overall. Hahaha I can't believe you got to recognize the Trans Am snippet! Good ears! Dianogah sound pretty good. Should've got them into the Chicago category in the vid. Thanks for your other shout outs too! :D Checking out Helms they seem to have mathy element too, but yeah these few genres overlap quite a bit. Haha, thanks for watching and glad you liked it! :)
@@StellasEncounter Hmm, possibly? Maybe within that type of rock band dynamic they could have been the first. Yeah! I would agree with you on the Pixies, but even Surfer Rosa before Doolittle had some of those elements - could be that Steve Albini magic haha. Dianogah are great - I think what set them appart was the two bassists and mostly instrumental melodic songs. Battle Champions is my favorite record by them, but they are all great....Helms are kind of mathy rhythmically, I agree. I think in terms of spoken/sung vocals and more textural guitar work kind of makes them post rock in mind.
@@jeremystanosheck773 Dianogah...Unwed Sailor, Helms, all amazing bands I've been loving, thanks for your recommendations!😍
@@StellasEncounter Niiiice. No problem!
@@StellasEncounter If you like the Temporary Residence stuff, I would recommend The Drift as well. They put out 3 excellent albums from 2005 - 2011, all post rock instrumentals. Very moody in terms of sound and they kind of capture a groove for long measures; somewhat jazz influenced and some experimental noise parts.
Another I would recommend would be Akron Family & Angels of Light. Angels of Light is Michael Gira (Swans) and Akron Family is a sweet band. They did a collaboration record, kind of more psychedelic but has some post rock vibes. Akron Family are also really good but are a little more psychedelics than post rock. And obviously, Angels of Light are good too, just not so much post rock and more experimental folk.
very well done - thank you for introducing me to a few wondrous tracks!
Thanks, I"m glad you got a take away from the vid. Enjoy the rest of the weekend, and thansk for taking the time to comment.
Thank you, Stella! I'd like to add to the list: Glenn Branca, Einsturzende Neubauten, Acid Mothers Temple, and Diamanda Galás. Looking forward to more of your videos.
Thanks for sneaking in some Asian post rock bands, seriously they need more attention🥲
I also recommend “Bugs of Phonon”, my favorite post rock band in Taiwan
You truly nailed this by being one of the few heads who would include a selection of Disco Inferno tracks into a founding history of post-rock. Pretty much thee band of the '90s.
They're so wonderful and deserve more exposure!
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