FORCON here (89'-96). I remember when they started FAST company out of Mare Island in the 90's. Were were not impressed with the idea one bit. Its good to see that all of these units still exist and have managed to pick out their niche. Semper Fi!
They came outta mare Island? WOW I lived in Fairfield my whole life didn't know that. My Grandfather was a Sargent Major 38 years in the Corps. WW2, KOREA, AND NAM. My dad was First Force Recon in the early 60's. I was gonna head that route but broke my Ankle and got steel installed.
I was in FAST over in Norfolk 91-93. Great training our advantage was rapid deployment with heavy weapons. 1 platoon had 3 m60’s, 1 50cal, 1mk 19, 2 SMAWs and 2-60mm mortars. Embassy reinforcement was main mission
@@MikeKessockI was invited to join FAST Co. Norfolk in ‘92 right before I graduated the “Corn Field”… I went down to MCSF Co. Panama, and was on their CQB Team 93-94…
@@jordanbarnhart8548 1988 on MEU in the Med became friends with and work with them. They were great at their job,plus good on the tactical side!! Really smart Marines. Became good friends with their SSGT, can’t remember his name? I was with him some country?? We heard gun shots and saw guy with a rifle firing into a bar. I duck for cover, SSGT rushed the guy and disarmed him, police came and almost shot us both!! I really didn’t do anything but SSGT saved the day. Gave the rifle to cops and got out of there. The following day the MEU was trying to find out who the two Marines were, we never said anything!!! Nothing but respect to the Radio Recon guys! Plus back then we never could get comms!! But they could!!
To be clear, the tier system is not part of nor used by SOCOM. These terms emerged from outside the official SOCOM structure, and the military doesn't officially classify units in this way.
The liaison part of ANGLICO is actually because we attach to foreign forces or Army units. That way in a marine AO the calls for fire are always done the same way and can be de conflicted by the same people as well
We were (at least during my time in ANGLICO), quite possibly one of the least known about units in the DOD (to my knowledge anyway). This is mainly due to the fact that unless you dealt with us, you have just never heard of us. Most Marines in ANGLICO preferred that. We are some of the most professional Marines that I’ve had the pleasure of knowing. We fill a niche roll that evolved over time from Joint Allied Signal Company (JASCO) in WWII and Korea. JASCO was featured in the movie Windtalkers as the focus unit. I feel great pride in being a part of a unit that helped father that form of communication security.
5 years at 1st ANGLICO (2010-2015) 3 deployments. I just wanna say we specialize in CAS, naval guns and surface to surface fires but we aren’t like special forces or anything. We have a specific specialty and the unit structure is unique in the Marine Corps.
@@andrewdimauro7352 , c'mon thunder from the skies , you have a unique history in the Corps ain't no party like a beach party semper fi brothers ( 81/85 )
I think ANGLICO is thrown in here due to it being “Special Operations Capable”. Additionally, the JTAC qualification appears to be inherent to specialized service members in other branches whereas the MC views it as a Billet and now a requirement to become an 0871. So whereas in another branch of service you may be considered special, the MC views JTACs as an individual that has simply attended a course like it’s commonly done in many other MOSs. Either way ANGLICO is a great unit to be a part of from the plethora of buddies that have had the pleasure to serve in. Haven’t met anyone that disliked their time there.
@andrewdimauro7352 I think you're missing the point. A "special" force, by definition, does things the normal forces can not. That much capability/flexibility in calling down warheads on foreheads most definitely puts the group in special forces. I dreamt of having a job like that... still do.
@@andrewdimauro7352 c'mon you went through several hard schs and survived and got your honorable discharge at the days end your being modest hell i was part fish in my HS swimming team and scuba sch almost killed me bubba like it or not you're from a special breed , im not trying to sell you a belt buckle in the parking lot im just proud to be way over 50' plus and still look good for my age and proud to have run with the wolves and you've done it to semper fi bro
1' is an embassy swat , 2' light intell gathering for the fmf , 3' fire control for air and sea guns and advisory for combined operations ,4' S/S teams for long range precision shooting 5' spec op's unit for what tier 1's don't have time to for
Funny how different things seem 20 some odd years later. 2 deployments with a Marine Expeditiinary Unit (MEU) pre MARSOC, part of maritime special purpose force. Force did all direct action assaults, marine raiders were put together out of the BLT working as security forces, STA and Recon would be eyes forward and on any sniper initiated assaults. Months and months together doing interop training while being evaluated by a special operations training group in order for a SOC qualification before deploying. Good times.
The "Ship" in the Maritime Raid Force scene is an Army LCU or Landing Craft Utility. When I was in we used to train for these missions with SOCOM Units.
I'm so proud of all you young war fighters, (Devil Dogs) you not only hold up old traditions you've raised the bar! Semper Fi brothers, old salt, (1963-1967).
@@davidwilliams5930 was 3/8 from 97 to 01, the security forces drops were always a shit show and a half. In our minds we got a bunch of Pogues corporals who didn't know shit about being infantry who thought they should be in charge. Not all of them, or maybe even most, but enough. One of my bro's was fast in 01 and was with the Iraq invasion, he straight up said that we just didn't do embassy stuff...Do find it interesting that when they formed Marsoc they pulled from the 4th MEB. At the time I think 3/8 was the large unit with any combat experience as a unit even if Kosovo was nothing like the shit storm that was coming later.
MARINES are NOT SOLDIERS! I don't know why that isn't clear? US Navy=SAILORS, USAF=AIRMEN, US Coast Guard=GUARDSMEN, US Army=SOLDIERS, US Marine Corps=MARINES! I respect my bullet sponge brethren! Semper Fi!
I was marine security forces, in late 80s early 90s on the USS ENTERPRISE CVN 65, I was suppose to be base security in Italy, but my buddy got sea duty and we were aloud to switch, if agreed ,before orders were issued. So I did the sea school, then other trained and got stationed on the enterprise. Then if you were on to a base over seas, you could wear , your uniform in transit, they gave a clothing allowance, and wanted you in a suit. To blend in with travelers like you were a business executive. Marine were, highly targeted in the 80s and 90s. Because of reputation.
@@DavidLLambertmobileThey’ll never get rid of MARSOC. It’s now a marquee unit like the SEALs are for the Navy. It keeps them in the press and keeps recruiting up.
Marine Security Forces.. 8152.. The GUN SLINGERS of the USMC. Only unit in the USA Arsenal, in which an Infantryman, will get SIGNIFICANTLY more trigger time with pistols\shotguns than any other unit in the Arsenal. These are the Marines that you see on Aircraft Carriers. Masters of CQB on a ship. Better than any seal team, any delta. ON A SHIP that is.. These are the Marines that also guard the Navy weapon stations. With an emphasis on CQB.. and COUNTER CQB.
I remember back in the day when we lost almost 40-50 percent in the first day in the pool. Our DOR was higher than the Seals. We also had less operators than the Seals. When I went in it was direct, no need to have your first tour, no prep classes. Simple pass or fail at Coronado. I was a LCpl when i graduated back in 1985. Think of the movie Heart Break Ridge. That was Recon back in the early 80's. I proudly wore my Aviator Wings, Gold Jump Wings and Silver Scuba Badge when I became an officer.
Old USMC 1972-1983 Stationed mostly in Okinawa for 6 years with 1/4 , 2/4, 3/4 , 1/9 5th Marines, 3rd Mar Div. Recon, Force Recon. Trained at Forte Bragg, Fort Benning, Coronado, Jest Trained in the Philippians, Cold weather survival in Norway and Mount Fuji, ITR Camp Pendleton. A lot of training in Okinawa, Camp Lejeune and Camp Pendleton. Maybe some of us chewed the same dirt. OOrah, Semper Fi
Would definitely want to be a force recon corpsman or SARC as they are called nowadays. I can perform all the medical tasks would need some training in weapons and water activities.
Semper Fi and Happy Birthday from Pvt Jose and I. Brother Jose was a Vietnam War Hero who reenlisted as a Pvt in 1980 to come back to ANGLICO! I would also like to mention Major Dupras WWII Marine Raider who trained and lead UDT sailors in August of 1950!
@ntbroz7315 not much different but the Marines didn't want to integrate into spec ops because high brass already thought they were elite lol which they weren't.Try telling a bunch of regular marine grunts to do Delta Devgru and CIA operative training lol what a joke. This is all documented you can look it up. It was a whole dramatic thing bringing them into special operations for Socom and Jsoc. Army, Navy, and Airforce dominate in special operations community while Marines have been playing catch up for decades. Facts
MSG. Even CI/HUMINT while NOT accredited federal agents (like all other DOD CI. NOT in the DOD CI. as is AFOSI/ ACI/ NCIS) They used to have theater and national level assignments
No our Force Recon does not report to SOCOM and we like it that way. Never wanted to be part of SOCOM to begin with and the Marine Corps was forced to bring Marine Raiders back into existence because some people in government hate to be told no. So now Force Recon can stay where they always belonged and Raiders can fill the SOCOM gap. In the words of Doc Holiday, "there now we can all be friends again."
@@terrarecon sure I get it, the Marine Corps wants to maintain control of their recon units, no problem. But with that control comes all of the conventional unit stupidity and limitations. Lower training budget, limited mission-sets, crappy equipment, slower promotions, less pay, silly rules, etc. etc.
It's so awesome to see even the nerdiest sounding unit in this list is manned by some badasses. Army just kind throw their guys into a role and sending to a school. But marines make it their entire job, then attach them to more badass group and make sure they can hang when shit goes down.
When he said that the Forward Artillery Observers in ANGLICO are "the only US military unit that can call in fire support from the air, sea, and land all at once"-----that is wrong. The Air Force's TACP can do the SAME EXACT THING and do it on a regular basis.
@@ernesthofmeister3054 The 0151s and the 0121s worked hand in hand. The 0151s did unit diary and the 0121s did Service Record Books, awards, etc. We often interchanged duties, and were indistinguishable from each other when it came to getting random duties.
@Adam-iq8rv That was Company level, I worked Regimental S-3 and later 2ndMarDiv PC&AO (Personnel Classification and Assignment Office) as a Division Correspondence Clerk!......tough job, easy duty!
Yeah, a lot of those roles keep changing. I was lucky enough to be a pogue comm-electronic guy to be stationed with 4th Marines in 97 or so. Recon Company was on the fourth floor (of the Barracks) and would run past us with full battle rattle with weapons and Assaultmen shit. I got lucky to see all the cool shit I did.
Oh, yeah, left out a few important parts... This was on a Friday and the next fucking morning these assholes would be out on the beach below our barracks in their Amtraks. That or recon spooling to pick up floaters... Fuck! I just wanted to sleep in.
My dad was in First Force Recon i believe 61-64? I may be off a couple years. But i do know he was in Cambodia and Vietnam WAAYYYYY before they say troops were. Or i should say MILITARY ADVISOR!!!
Actually, DOD forced the Marines to form MARSOC, the Marines are traditionally looked at as special troops or shock troops. That's why the original Raiders were disbanded just a couple of years after formation.
Who was in the Marine Corps for eight years I did three deployments overseas with the 22nd, 24th and 26th MAU I was in field artillery. I met lots of guys in combat arms, but I’ve only met like a handful of recon guys snipers and ANGLCO it’s since I’ve been out dude everyone of these people on me is some kind of lead force inside the Marine Corps but they don’t realize big MARINE you are elite so whether you’re fucking avionics or artillery or even a cook, you’re still a fucking MARINE(by the way, I have lots of respect for cooks in the Marine Corps. they worked unreal hours and got very little respect for what they did
I spent three years, two months , and 22 days in ANGLICO, back in 70-73. Jump school, Jump Master school, NCO School, and a training deployment to Greece for two months of working with our foreign allies, which is ANGLICO’s unique contribution to the Marine’s war fighting capabilities. Calling in Marine Corps artillery and Naval Gunfire for our own Army units and our Allies. Sadly, things were not as tight and professional back then, compared to modern ANGLICO warriors. Mainly due to rampant Vietnam era bad attitudes. Everyone in the country was skeptical of the government back then, and that bled into our units. I believe it resulted in our training being sloppy and led to general morale problems. Guys back from Vietnam were salty, and didn’t much care about unit professionalism. Most everyone was just counting the days til discharge instead of trying to improve our war fighting. Marines who tried to push for being better were scorned behind their backs. We weren’t, as a unit, as capable as this video maked us sound, even though we went to jump school, and such. I say all this today sadly looking back, and seeing the level of professionalism in today’s units. Still, 50 years later, I’m very proud of having been in a ‘Special Forces’ unit.
Seems like there's a lot of redundancy here. All of these jobs look like they can be covered by Force Recon, Recon or MARSOC. Maybe some of these units fall under the umbrella of Recon, so that would make sense. Still, they all sound like very cool jobs.
The Marine Corp is full of redundancy . Every Marine a rifleman its built into there culture. Had a buddy in boot camp from PR. Dude was a machine. PT and could handle his own. His mos was sanitation. Remember the Corps gets the least funding of all the services. They make due with what they have on hand at the time. So that redundancy is on purpose.
@@kraccusblack1022 There's probably a lot I don't understand about the founding of the military, but it seems like the Marine Corps has always been underserved. If we've got enough money to give away billions to foreign crony "allies" of the illegal Biden Administration, who've usurped power from the true president and The People, then I don't see why they can't slide a billion or two to the Corps. It's weird, because if the military is going to back the play of a bunch of azzholes who would deem themselves our kings, you would think that the Powers would grant the Corp more money. However, it does seem that the Marine Corps is the service that is least rolled into this new regime of traitorous assholez
15th MEU SOC aircrew here. Worked with all the units mentioned here, and yes there IS redundancy in them. The Marine Corps is the most capable and adaptable fighting force in the entire world.
Recon services the division. Force is deep reconnaissance for the MEF and the MEU and is the raid force/MSPF for the MEU. ANGLICO embeds with foreign forces to link them up with US tacair and Naval gunfire support. Lots of pilots and arty guys in it. FAST is basically a light infantry unit that belongs to the Security Forces that’s mission is to reinforce embassies that are in distress or danger of being over ran. Very dissimilar mission sets actually.
@williamsmith8790 Thanks for that, that was f****** awesome! When you break it down, I can see why I have heard so many Marines refer to the entire branch as a special operations force.
I was recon Marine in the 80’s, was asked by a grunt Lt, why do you recon guys think you are so special then everyone. I said we don’t think that, we are just grunts with different missions. After that we became friends!
Security Forces guys get roasted in the fleet. They have little to no experience and only look good on paper. Usually when they hit the fleet they are no better than boots and are treated as such.
Why is MARSOC considered Tier 2? Not related to the first question, but I've often heard people sh!t on MARSOC when comparing sf units, but seems to me they would be some of the biggest bad@sses out there being marines AND special forces ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I went thru CounterGuerrillaWarfareSchool at Ft. Bragg 50 yrs ago with 5th and 7th SFG, worked with 1st, 10th and 19th SFG also. Great guys, but a completely different mission than USMC ops. Their main job is to train indigenous troops in guerrilla warfare. So what unit did you serve with?
ANGLICOs are a lot more similar to Air Force TACPs that CCTs. Also, they are NOT the only specialty that can call for fire air, land, and sea. TACPs and CCTs can as well and were doing so before ANGLICO.
@@hamie7624 The reason for that is they were created to only support the Marine Corps besides Raiders. Raiders are basically Green Berets. Their training regimen was helped set up by Green Berets. There must be a need for it because the Marine Corps was FORCED to assign Marines to SOCOM, but the entire purpose of the redundancy is for having all of those elements ONLY supporting the Marine Corps.
Actually you have that backwards. ANGLICO started as JASCO back in WWII before there was an airforce. I went to Army jump school in 1980. We had some para rescue guys but no mention of fac teams.
my petty officer siad that RTT also known as the "rainbow tickle team." or least that what thier known as on Naval Base Kitsap. (for anyone thinking im in the navy or active duty of any kind, NO I AM NOT. I AM A SEA CADET-NOT ACTIVE DUTY)
RTT is part of USMC Security Forces. They aren't as high speed as Force Recon but fun nonetheless... or at least in the late 90s at Kings Bay it was fun.
@rudolfrednose5604 you must not know marine security guards are infantry the reason they're different because they do infantry training then go do embassy training in Virginia so don't speak on things if you don't know too much about
@@lunyolieny4463 exactly if there infantry why the fuck do they need fast teams and marine security guards, instead of cutting the scout sniper program they should of cut msg and made everyone go to a infantry unit
@@rudolfrednose5604 marine Security guard is a complete different billet than Fast or security plt Come on know your shit before commenting. Marine security forces is the first job in the marine corps for starters. Men were Recruited to guard naval vessels and personnel during 1775 . So unless you’re a general or a commander you have no say on what units you deem worthy.
@@Grid88they show up to the fleet just a clueless and inexperienced as the boots but they have some rank so there more unwilling to listen and learn, and get put in a billet that reflects there rank leaving a huge experience gap in leadership roles. Give me a fresh boot straight out of SOI anyday.
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There is too much amphibious operations here. I guess I'm more of a delta guy.
They're marines @@BigSky76
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FORCON here (89'-96). I remember when they started FAST company out of Mare Island in the 90's. Were were not impressed with the idea one bit. Its good to see that all of these units still exist and have managed to pick out their niche. Semper Fi!
They came outta mare Island? WOW I lived in Fairfield my whole life didn't know that. My Grandfather was a Sargent Major 38 years in the Corps. WW2, KOREA, AND NAM. My dad was First Force Recon in the early 60's. I was gonna head that route but broke my Ankle and got steel installed.
I was in FAST over in Norfolk 91-93. Great training our advantage was rapid deployment with heavy weapons. 1 platoon had 3 m60’s, 1 50cal, 1mk 19, 2 SMAWs and 2-60mm mortars. Embassy reinforcement was main mission
FAST is needed, but it really should have a wider mission scope. They fulfill a lot of international drills spots for the Corps though.
89 to 96. Old SRIG days. Flores. I was in the LAR Bn messhall for you guys and ANGLICO. Discharged in 97. Semper Fi bro
@@MikeKessockI was invited to join FAST Co. Norfolk in ‘92 right before I graduated the “Corn Field”… I went down to MCSF Co. Panama, and was on their CQB Team 93-94…
Glad somebody finally mentioned Radio Recon
Was in recon when radio recon came to be. The Radio Recon was great bunch of Marines and very good at what they do! 85 to 89
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@@jordanbarnhart8548 1988 on MEU in the Med became friends with and work with them. They were great at their job,plus good on the tactical side!! Really smart Marines. Became good friends with their SSGT, can’t remember his name? I was with him some country?? We heard gun shots and saw guy with a rifle firing into a bar. I duck for cover, SSGT rushed the guy and disarmed him, police came and almost shot us both!! I really didn’t do anything but SSGT saved the day. Gave the rifle to cops and got out of there. The following day the MEU was trying to find out who the two Marines were, we never said anything!!! Nothing but respect to the Radio Recon guys! Plus back then we never could get comms!! But they could!!
Our BRC class honor grad was Radio Recon. He was in my team. Great guy.
78-79 B Co. 3rd Recon Bn.
79-81 DRP (Deep Recon Platoon/Force Recon) 1st Recon Bn.
81-82 Scuba Locker NCOIC 1st Recon Bn.
Semper Fi Brothers !!!
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To be clear, the tier system is not part of nor used by SOCOM. These terms emerged from outside the official SOCOM structure, and the military doesn't officially classify units in this way.
Absolutely correct
Facts.
The liaison part of ANGLICO is actually because we attach to foreign forces or Army units. That way in a marine AO the calls for fire are always done the same way and can be de conflicted by the same people as well
We were (at least during my time in ANGLICO), quite possibly one of the least known about units in the DOD (to my knowledge anyway). This is mainly due to the fact that unless you dealt with us, you have just never heard of us. Most Marines in ANGLICO preferred that. We are some of the most professional Marines that I’ve had the pleasure of knowing. We fill a niche roll that evolved over time from Joint Allied Signal Company (JASCO) in WWII and Korea. JASCO was featured in the movie Windtalkers as the focus unit. I feel great pride in being a part of a unit that helped father that form of communication security.
5 years at 1st ANGLICO (2010-2015) 3 deployments. I just wanna say we specialize in CAS, naval guns and surface to surface fires but we aren’t like special forces or anything. We have a specific specialty and the unit structure is unique in the Marine Corps.
@@andrewdimauro7352 , c'mon thunder from the skies , you have a unique history in the Corps
ain't no party like
a beach party semper fi brothers ( 81/85 )
@ loved every minute of it and I’m proud of it. I’m just saying we’re not some special forces unit
I think ANGLICO is thrown in here due to it being “Special Operations Capable”. Additionally, the JTAC qualification appears to be inherent to specialized service members in other branches whereas the MC views it as a Billet and now a requirement to become an 0871. So whereas in another branch of service you may be considered special, the MC views JTACs as an individual that has simply attended a course like it’s commonly done in many other MOSs. Either way ANGLICO is a great unit to be a part of from the plethora of buddies that have had the pleasure to serve in. Haven’t met anyone that disliked their time there.
@andrewdimauro7352 I think you're missing the point. A "special" force, by definition, does things the normal forces can not. That much capability/flexibility in calling down warheads on foreheads most definitely puts the group in special forces. I dreamt of having a job like that... still do.
@@andrewdimauro7352 c'mon you went through several hard schs and survived and got your honorable discharge at the days end your being modest hell i was part fish in my HS swimming team and scuba sch almost killed me bubba like it or not you're from a special breed , im not trying to sell you a belt buckle in the parking lot im just proud to be way over 50' plus and still look good for my age and proud to have run with the wolves and you've done it to semper fi bro
1' is an embassy swat , 2' light intell gathering for the fmf , 3' fire control for air and sea guns and advisory for combined operations ,4' S/S teams for long range precision shooting 5' spec op's unit for what tier 1's don't have time to for
Thank you for the fast brake down brother
Your summary is #5 made me smile big lol well said
embassy SWAT? are you high?
@@xusmico187 Apparently he is after reading his comment.
@@xusmico187 , what are the f a s t teams doing deep international united nations special operations counter terrorism duties ,
1966-69 4th Force Recon. 1969-72 3rd ANGLICO MOS 7141 Airbourne Equipment Specialist (Rigger) Semper Fi
Funny how different things seem 20 some odd years later. 2 deployments with a Marine Expeditiinary Unit (MEU) pre MARSOC, part of maritime special purpose force. Force did all direct action assaults, marine raiders were put together out of the BLT working as security forces, STA and Recon would be eyes forward and on any sniper initiated assaults. Months and months together doing interop training while being evaluated by a special operations training group in order for a SOC qualification before deploying. Good times.
USMC "Danger is Ours Business", Semper-Fi.
This is all awesome and thorough, As Marine with 1/6 BLT in Afghanistan, I saw a lot of ANGLICO in Action from FOB Marjah
I was like : " we are my Scout Snipers at!" then I realized they do not exist anymore..... SS 8541/0317 if you know you know....
The "Ship" in the Maritime Raid Force scene is an Army LCU or Landing Craft Utility. When I was in we used to train for these missions with SOCOM Units.
Thank you to ALL who have fought and are still fighting
Great and conceal distinctions that makes so much sense when slighted different intention makes huge difference
I'm so proud of all you young war fighters, (Devil Dogs) you not only hold up old traditions you've raised the bar! Semper Fi brothers, old salt, (1963-1967).
Thank you for your service for the country sir.
Were you Recon? If so you may have known my pops
@@frankgraziano9759 Not Recon, Plt. Sgt. rifle platoon. Much respect to your Pops and all Recons for what they do without publicity, Semper Fi.
12yrs as a 0311 I would roll with FAST !!
Who did you serve with?
@@davidwilliams5930 was 3/8 from 97 to 01, the security forces drops were always a shit show and a half. In our minds we got a bunch of Pogues corporals who didn't know shit about being infantry who thought they should be in charge. Not all of them, or maybe even most, but enough. One of my bro's was fast in 01 and was with the Iraq invasion, he straight up said that we just didn't do embassy stuff...Do find it interesting that when they formed Marsoc they pulled from the 4th MEB. At the time I think 3/8 was the large unit with any combat experience as a unit even if Kosovo was nothing like the shit storm that was coming later.
MARINES are NOT SOLDIERS! I don't know why that isn't clear? US Navy=SAILORS, USAF=AIRMEN, US Coast Guard=GUARDSMEN, US Army=SOLDIERS, US Marine Corps=MARINES! I respect my bullet sponge brethren! Semper Fi!
Space Force = Space Cadets
Semper Fi Brother
Handbook for Marine NCO's (pg 64 ,1970) says marines have always been known as Soldiers of the Sea for centuries.
It's just more common saying soldier I mean yall do defend the country
They ARE soldiers...of the sea
I was marine security forces, in late 80s early 90s on the USS ENTERPRISE CVN 65, I was suppose to be base security in Italy, but my buddy got sea duty and we were aloud to switch, if agreed ,before orders were issued. So I did the sea school, then other trained and got stationed on the enterprise. Then if you were on to a base over seas, you could wear , your uniform in transit, they gave a clothing allowance, and wanted you in a suit. To blend in with travelers like you were a business executive. Marine were, highly targeted in the 80s and 90s. Because of reputation.
Was on the Enterprise myself in '96, before going to Bosnia
Cool explanation of different roles.
I doubt MARSOC will be around by FY2034. The Marines may down size soon ....
@@DavidLLambertmobile if anything the corps needs more government suppport.
@@DavidLLambertmobileThey’ll never get rid of MARSOC. It’s now a marquee unit like the SEALs are for the Navy. It keeps them in the press and keeps recruiting up.
Cool video. Good breakdown of these units.
Thank you sir
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Marine Security Forces.. 8152.. The GUN SLINGERS of the USMC. Only unit in the USA Arsenal, in which an Infantryman, will get SIGNIFICANTLY more trigger time with pistols\shotguns than any other unit in the Arsenal.
These are the Marines that you see on Aircraft Carriers. Masters of CQB on a ship. Better than any seal team, any delta. ON A SHIP that is..
These are the Marines that also guard the Navy weapon stations. With an emphasis on CQB.. and COUNTER CQB.
They call it slow company by the way. Those guys get shit out into victor units after 3 years and let me tell you they are anything but elite!
I lived on Naval Station Rota Spain in the 80s, My friends dad was a FAST Gunny.... Had no idea what a stud he was until much later in life..
Sounds like a cool guy!
I remember back in the day when we lost almost 40-50 percent in the first day in the pool. Our DOR was higher than the Seals. We also had less operators than the Seals. When I went in it was direct, no need to have your first tour, no prep classes. Simple pass or fail at Coronado. I was a LCpl when i graduated back in 1985. Think of the movie Heart Break Ridge. That was Recon back in the early 80's. I proudly wore my Aviator Wings, Gold Jump Wings and Silver Scuba Badge when I became an officer.
Thank you for your service! It sounds like you had a truly unique experience.
Old USMC 1972-1983 Stationed mostly in Okinawa for 6 years with 1/4 , 2/4, 3/4 , 1/9 5th Marines, 3rd Mar Div. Recon, Force Recon. Trained at Forte Bragg, Fort Benning, Coronado, Jest Trained in the Philippians, Cold weather survival in Norway and Mount Fuji, ITR Camp Pendleton. A lot of training in Okinawa, Camp Lejeune and Camp Pendleton. Maybe some of us chewed the same dirt. OOrah, Semper Fi
Thanks for your service, Semper Fi!
Would definitely want to be a force recon corpsman or SARC as they are called nowadays. I can perform all the medical tasks would need some training in weapons and water activities.
Someone should have sent some of these great Marines when things were going south in Benghazi.
Blame killery
Clinton made sure this didn’t happen.
As I understand it, they were tac’d up ready to go but were stood down by on high 🤷🏻♂️ smh stupid DC nonsense
It was Special Forces waiting on a runway ready to go.
There was no MEU in the Med or FAST platoon at the embassy even though the I & W was there for shenanigans. The question is why?
Proud to be a FORCE RECON MARINE.❤️🇺🇸
my dad was force recon vietnam. friend of mine was on a fast team.
Semper Fi and Happy Birthday from Pvt Jose and I. Brother Jose was a Vietnam War Hero who reenlisted as a Pvt in 1980 to come back to ANGLICO! I would also like to mention Major Dupras WWII Marine Raider who trained and lead UDT sailors in August of 1950!
Eas Mos was 8654 jump and scuba qualified reconnaissance Marine
8654 here also. Started out 0311, then 0321, then 8654 and finally 0369.
2001-03 CQBTM1&3 Some of the best times of my life. RIP CPL Dunham miss ya bro
The rebirth of MARSOC aka MARINE RAIDERS was the SOF the United States needed
Why, what do they do different from Green Beret exactly?
@ntbroz7315 not much different but the Marines didn't want to integrate into spec ops because high brass already thought they were elite lol which they weren't.Try telling a bunch of regular marine grunts to do Delta Devgru and CIA operative training lol what a joke. This is all documented you can look it up. It was a whole dramatic thing bringing them into special operations for Socom and Jsoc.
Army, Navy, and Airforce dominate in special operations community while Marines have been playing catch up for decades. Facts
@@ntbroz7315 nothing much. Except MARSOC is full of marines. so its like sending the dogs on someone.
MSG. Even CI/HUMINT while NOT accredited federal agents (like all other DOD CI. NOT in the DOD CI. as is AFOSI/ ACI/ NCIS) They used to have theater and national level assignments
They are not badged CI? Then how do they conduct CI investigations and make arrests? What’s that big badge they all carry around?
RTT was good times.
Force Recon and MARSOC
Not to take anything away from them but FORECON is not special operations. They are studs but technically they do not report through SOCOM.
Correct but they are special operations capable.
Doesn't matter. They have seen plenty of combat.
No our Force Recon does not report to SOCOM and we like it that way. Never wanted to be part of SOCOM to begin with and the Marine Corps was forced to bring Marine Raiders back into existence because some people in government hate to be told no. So now Force Recon can stay where they always belonged and Raiders can fill the SOCOM gap. In the words of Doc Holiday, "there now we can all be friends again."
@@defilade1066 It does matter......the 82nd Airborne "has seen plenty of combat" also, but that does not make them special operations.
@@terrarecon sure I get it, the Marine Corps wants to maintain control of their recon units, no problem. But with that control comes all of the conventional unit stupidity and limitations. Lower training budget, limited mission-sets, crappy equipment, slower promotions, less pay, silly rules, etc. etc.
Thanks for sharing, SEMPER FI MARINES
It's so awesome to see even the nerdiest sounding unit in this list is manned by some badasses. Army just kind throw their guys into a role and sending to a school. But marines make it their entire job, then attach them to more badass group and make sure they can hang when shit goes down.
Served as the field radio operator with 6th plt 1st Force Recon attached to 3rd Recon Bn 74-76
Did you get to go to Forcon training and get the wings/chute insignia?
@mratlas3364 I earned my jump wings while serving with 1st anglico went to scuba school while with 3rd Recon and my training for 6th plt was otj
you scared me in the beginning, I thought I was put into an AOEII game and was confused for a second
26 MEUSOC here and I would love to run with raiders.
I was in FAST company for a few years. It was fun. Alpha 5! Ooh rah!!
Ran with Charlie 3 and Alpha 3. Oorah brother
AF4 2010-12 was the best
Neat video, but MARSOC doesn't conduct UW as only Army SF are authorized to do so.. FID is not UW.
How'd they leave out the Comm Bn? SMH
What happened to the scout snipers ?
Proud to have filled 3 of them.
Very nice won me on this one.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Most of these units don't have selections. They're just units you can get assigned to. Besides the recon units, they're all just places you can work.
Recon, Force, Radio Recon, and MARSOC all have selections and RIPs.
When he said that the Forward Artillery Observers in ANGLICO are "the only US military unit that can call in fire support from the air, sea, and land all at once"-----that is wrong. The Air Force's TACP can do the SAME EXACT THING and do it on a regular basis.
I wish more people talked about the chemical boys 👀
Teufel hunden, devil dogs or hounds from hell.
I was an 0121 Admin Personnel Clerk Reservist.
Thanks for your service!
Unit Diary?......I had a secondary 0151 and served as a Remington Raider, attacking those keys like a bad MF'er
@@ernesthofmeister3054 The 0151s and the 0121s worked hand in hand. The 0151s did unit diary and the 0121s did Service Record Books, awards, etc. We often interchanged duties, and were indistinguishable from each other when it came to getting random duties.
@Adam-iq8rv
That was Company level, I worked Regimental S-3 and later 2ndMarDiv PC&AO (Personnel Classification and Assignment Office) as a Division Correspondence Clerk!......tough job, easy duty!
@@ernesthofmeister3054 then you were what we aspired to be. We were just glorified typists and extra manual labor.
You forgot the Amphibious Raid Company
Semper Fi 👍
Yeah, a lot of those roles keep changing. I was lucky enough to be a pogue comm-electronic guy to be stationed with 4th Marines in 97 or so. Recon Company was on the fourth floor (of the Barracks) and would run past us with full battle rattle with weapons and Assaultmen shit. I got lucky to see all the cool shit I did.
Oh, yeah, left out a few important parts... This was on a Friday and the next fucking morning these assholes would be out on the beach below our barracks in their Amtraks. That or recon spooling to pick up floaters... Fuck! I just wanted to sleep in.
That’s awesome, I’m sure it was cool to see them train.
My dad was in First Force Recon i believe 61-64? I may be off a couple years. But i do know he was in Cambodia and Vietnam WAAYYYYY before they say troops were. Or i should say MILITARY ADVISOR!!!
2/1 SSP. Semper fi and God bless!
All will hopefully be under MARSOC one day, right now it’s only Raiders under the MARSOC
Was surprised trailer platoon made this list. I didn’t think we were that important lol.
They are definitely important, every role contributes to the bigger picture.
MARSOC wanted a slice of the SO funding. So it was born.
Actually, DOD forced the Marines to form MARSOC, the Marines are traditionally looked at as special troops or shock troops. That's why the original Raiders were disbanded just a couple of years after formation.
Who was in the Marine Corps for eight years I did three deployments overseas with the 22nd, 24th and 26th MAU I was in field artillery. I met lots of guys in combat arms, but I’ve only met like a handful of recon guys snipers and ANGLCO it’s since I’ve been out dude everyone of these people on me is some kind of lead force inside the Marine Corps but they don’t realize big MARINE you are elite so whether you’re fucking avionics or artillery or even a cook, you’re still a fucking MARINE(by the way, I have lots of respect for cooks in the Marine Corps. they worked unreal hours and got very little respect for what they did
Also can you make a video just as in-depth as this one on delta force?
Delta disbanded in 2005. It's ACE or CAG now.... Army Combative Elements.
@@DavidLLambertmobile oh i see
@@DavidLLambertmobile bro who cares you can call it delta
Semper Fi Brothers! Get Some!
I spent three years, two months , and 22 days in ANGLICO, back in 70-73. Jump school, Jump Master school, NCO School, and a training deployment to Greece for two months of working with our foreign allies, which is ANGLICO’s unique contribution to the Marine’s war fighting capabilities. Calling in Marine Corps artillery and Naval Gunfire for our own Army units and our Allies.
Sadly, things were not as tight and professional back then, compared to modern ANGLICO warriors. Mainly due to rampant Vietnam era bad attitudes. Everyone in the country was skeptical of the government back then, and that bled into our units. I believe it resulted in our training being sloppy and led to general morale problems. Guys back from Vietnam were salty, and didn’t much care about unit professionalism. Most everyone was just counting the days til discharge instead of trying to improve our war fighting. Marines who tried to push for being better were scorned behind their backs.
We weren’t, as a unit, as capable as this video maked us sound, even though we went to jump school, and such.
I say all this today sadly looking back, and seeing the level of professionalism in today’s units.
Still, 50 years later, I’m very proud of having been in a ‘Special Forces’ unit.
I grew up in Okinawa and the island is a planet of U.S. Marines !!!
Seems like there's a lot of redundancy here. All of these jobs look like they can be covered by Force Recon, Recon or MARSOC. Maybe some of these units fall under the umbrella of Recon, so that would make sense. Still, they all sound like very cool jobs.
The Marine Corp is full of redundancy . Every Marine a rifleman its built into there culture. Had a buddy in boot camp from PR. Dude was a machine. PT and could handle his own. His mos was sanitation. Remember the Corps gets the least funding of all the services. They make due with what they have on hand at the time. So that redundancy is on purpose.
@@kraccusblack1022
There's probably a lot I don't understand about the founding of the military, but it seems like the Marine Corps has always been underserved. If we've got enough money to give away billions to foreign crony "allies" of the illegal Biden Administration, who've usurped power from the true president and The People, then I don't see why they can't slide a billion or two to the Corps.
It's weird, because if the military is going to back the play of a bunch of azzholes who would deem themselves our kings, you would think that the Powers would grant the Corp more money. However, it does seem that the Marine Corps is the service that is least rolled into this new regime of traitorous assholez
15th MEU SOC aircrew here. Worked with all the units mentioned here, and yes there IS redundancy in them. The Marine Corps is the most capable and adaptable fighting force in the entire world.
Recon services the division. Force is deep reconnaissance for the MEF and the MEU and is the raid force/MSPF for the MEU. ANGLICO embeds with foreign forces to link them up with US tacair and Naval gunfire support. Lots of pilots and arty guys in it. FAST is basically a light infantry unit that belongs to the Security Forces that’s mission is to reinforce embassies that are in distress or danger of being over ran. Very dissimilar mission sets actually.
@williamsmith8790
Thanks for that, that was f****** awesome! When you break it down, I can see why I have heard so many Marines refer to the entire branch as a special operations force.
Any of them!
2/12 Fox Battery - gun rock
Semper Fi Jarheads!
You forgot 6th Marines.😊
I was with 4th anglico for 15 years
Their jobs is to admire👌. Captain airborne 75 regiment Rangers RRC 🇺🇸 with all the respect and much respect to our bad ass @Marine-corps
Force Recon is the best of the best, and if you don't believe that just ask them. 🤣 Marine Corps Infantry. We stick around and slug it out.
I agree, Force Recon Marines are a force to be reckoned with!
I was recon Marine in the 80’s, was asked by a grunt Lt, why do you recon guys think you are so special then everyone. I said we don’t think that, we are just grunts with different missions. After that we became friends!
Me and mysock. Want a spot. Part of the elite one man operator
Good basic overview....
Security Forces guys get roasted in the fleet. They have little to no experience and only look good on paper. Usually when they hit the fleet they are no better than boots and are treated as such.
MARSOC is the only Marine special operations unit. The rest of these are just specialized units.
The special culinary team to feed angry marines
ANGLICO and FAST are NOT SOF units. Grunts with CQB that don't hike and glorified ROs aren't SOF
Why is MARSOC considered Tier 2?
Not related to the first question, but I've often heard people sh!t on MARSOC when comparing sf units, but seems to me they would be some of the biggest bad@sses out there being marines AND special forces ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Trir system is not a ranking system rather it is a funding system
forgot the 4 recon battalions
Yes I accept that was a miss
Nothing like green berets
marsoc kind of fits in that slot...with a hint of seal due to maritime ops.
I went thru CounterGuerrillaWarfareSchool at Ft. Bragg 50 yrs ago with 5th and 7th SFG, worked with 1st, 10th and 19th SFG also. Great guys, but a completely different mission than USMC ops. Their main job is to train indigenous troops in guerrilla warfare.
So what unit did you serve with?
@@wyomarine-m5s 7th SFG
ANGLICOs are a lot more similar to Air Force TACPs that CCTs. Also, they are NOT the only specialty that can call for fire air, land, and sea. TACPs and CCTs can as well and were doing so before ANGLICO.
Seems like all these marine units are just clones of units that already existed in other branches.
Yes but for amphibious warfare
@@hamie7624 The reason for that is they were created to only support the Marine Corps besides Raiders. Raiders are basically Green Berets. Their training regimen was helped set up by Green Berets. There must be a need for it because the Marine Corps was FORCED to assign Marines to SOCOM, but the entire purpose of the redundancy is for having all of those elements ONLY supporting the Marine Corps.
Yes, you are correct. Not to take away from the grunts but CCT guys and TACPs have been doing this.
Actually you have that backwards. ANGLICO started as JASCO back in WWII before there was an airforce. I went to Army jump school in 1980. We had some para rescue guys but no mention of fac teams.
my petty officer siad that RTT also known as the "rainbow tickle team." or least that what thier known as on Naval Base Kitsap.
(for anyone thinking im in the navy or active duty of any kind, NO I AM NOT. I AM A SEA CADET-NOT ACTIVE DUTY)
ComCam most elite unit
All that pride meanwhile the "elite" marine corp has 0 tier 1 units while the US Army has 3 tier 1 units 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Marines get selected for tier 1 units all the time, DEVGRU, Delta, etc.
That isnt entirely where devil dog comes from
Everybody knows, the H&S company is the force to roll with..........
Had. Some war game Us marine VS gurkha contingent. In Singapore. Gurkha won.
I would start with recon and slip into RTT. CQB is boring
RTT is part of USMC Security Forces. They aren't as high speed as Force Recon but fun nonetheless... or at least in the late 90s at Kings Bay it was fun.
Oorah
Force Recon isn't SOF...
No, they are SOC. do the same stuff though
@@slamdancer1720 yeah most definitely capable but not employed in such capacity though, that’s why they transition to over so SF or MARSOC.
I think they need to get rid of fast. Just send infantry. They sent us (weapons company) to Yemen in 2014-2015.
Straight up send in the grunts to do security for American embassies
I think FAST deserves more missions then DC offers them
@rudolfrednose5604 you must not know marine security guards are infantry the reason they're different because they do infantry training then go do embassy training in Virginia so don't speak on things if you don't know too much about
@@lunyolieny4463 exactly if there infantry why the fuck do they need fast teams and marine security guards, instead of cutting the scout sniper program they should of cut msg and made everyone go to a infantry unit
@@rudolfrednose5604 marine Security guard is a complete different billet than Fast or security plt
Come on know your shit before commenting. Marine security forces is the first job in the marine corps for starters. Men were Recruited to guard naval vessels and personnel during 1775 . So unless you’re a general or a commander you have no say on what units you deem worthy.
Calling fast and anglico elite is a fing stretch and a half
All lessons which we the British did first use there good but British military set the bar
🙏💚⭐🗽
Wouldn’t wanna be a domestic terrorist here!😂
Fast company literally dont do shit at all
They got deployed to Haiti this year and some of those guys got CARs from what I heard
Why is everybody against fast company?
@@Grid88 they hate them because they ain’t them I’d assume.
@Grid88 they get to the fleet act like they know stuff but all they know is defense, not any actual infantry stuff.
@@Grid88they show up to the fleet just a clueless and inexperienced as the boots but they have some rank so there more unwilling to listen and learn, and get put in a billet that reflects there rank leaving a huge experience gap in leadership roles. Give me a fresh boot straight out of SOI anyday.