Farming Remnants for AI Cores : Starsector
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- It feels so good to eventually figure out how to destroy the remnant fleets. We even managed to do it without having to spend a bunch of story points. I think this is the breaking point for the game. We can now take on the worst the sector has to throw at us. Also our colonies are looking pretty decked out in AI cores. Just one more episode and we should be finished up here.
*Edit : should really have mentioned that LP brawlers have Accelerated Ammo Feeder, hell of a DPS increase.
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Pilot 1: "Hey I heard you joined a new fleet."
Pilot 2: "Yeah, but it's not that great."
Pilot 1: "Really? That Max Stereotype guy is a legend."
Pilot 2: "I'm a brawler pilot"
Pilot 1: "My condolences.."
Hey (fake indignation), when I get an LP Brawler I pilot it, mostly. I let my hired captains have the cruisers, battleships and capitals. Anyway cool story clip.
5:18 "Haven't lost any brawlers yet?" Moments before losing his own ship because he forgot to turn autopilot on 😂
I setup in a nexus area before. It was a struggle to keep my colonies defenses up high enough to keep the trading ships from being destroyed by the remnant fleets as the remnant gets stronger in the system the more you defeat so was a constant powerplay struggle.
When I was able to maintain good defense though it was very profitable. Come back every so often to salvage from the wrecks and get plenty of AI cores mostly around my colonies too as the battlestations played a big role in defeating the bigger fleets.
That all stopped though when a lone trade convoy decided to assault the nexus. I don't know why, I don't know how. But a trade convoy defeated the nexus. Out of all the fleets that could've attacked the nexus it was a trading fleet that decided to and won.
Constantly farming Remnant fleets and shipping ai cores by the hundred to TriTachion sounds like a sound business model.
@@Self-replicating_whatnot that'll work until the nexus is destroyed by a defending fleet, or in my case a trade convoy. Maybe they just got caught up in the nexus when a already weakened remnant fleet attacked them. That's probably what happened here.
Initially deploy only paragon and when it finally goes through half the map add brawlers, they'll catch up in probably half a second and you won't be wasting their combat readiness
combat readiness starts decreasing when the enemy is on radar anyways so youre not wasting anything
@@dairiskuznecovs7233 nah, what he meant was that smaller ships have lower peak performance time so deploy capitals first.
@@likeablekiwi6265 peak performance starts going down once ship reaches the enemy
@@pashadanilov3490 ya?
@@likeablekiwi6265 ye
Ahh, that moment where rimworld logic comes into play. Mini guns.. lots of mini guns.
Love it
Classic Francis finding the absolute limits of the game with maxing out the ship slots.
Once again showing the human strategy of all-out offense and speed to just smash your opponents' faces in remains strangely still the best plan in almost everything
this series was really fun, sad it's ending
him exploting the black market skipped 80% of the g ameplay
That's actually exactly how I felt about my own gameplay. The galaxy just suddenly felt empty, I looked at the wiki and noticed there's nothing else to do
All that's left now is modding
@@Negniwret if the wiki doesn't have any more goals, you can always make your own
@@tetrikitty1686 yeah, but after raiding my enemies and outgunning their fleets, the game didn't feel very fun anymore vanilla. There's a mod that makes enemy factions respectable and lets them conquer each other (and you get to conquer planets for your faction, too)
Looking forward to playing that, but currently not feeling like learning how to mod
@@Negniwret Any really good game will let the player base mod it, only reason minecraft is still relevant.
The LP Brawler is everything you could ever want - fast, surprisingly tanky, cheap, easy to outfit, and unbelievable damage with double chaingun and accel feed
This series is absolutely brilliant!
Fun fact: There is a bounty that you can gain after defeating the Coronal Hypershunt Guardians from one of the contacts. I think it pays out like 1 mil plus but the main goal of it is the difficulty and the weapons you gain from it. It usually consists of 2 Radiants, onne very very angry dorito chip and a load(like 18-24) other remnant ships all with alpha ai cores.
Oh joy, that sounds like it's going to hurt a lot.
@@FrancisJohnYT it can go horribly or really not that bad depending on what the angry dorito does. Because if it goes with the 2 radiants you are dead no matter what you have and how hard you try because the radiant soak while it just sucks you in to a black hole of death. But if it goes off to wander about killing the cheap ships like brawlers, scarabs, kites and what not then it's fine
@@FrancisJohnYT there is also a funny bar event you can activate if you commission with the hegemony after having cleared the main quest
Imagine that the Brawlers are hopped up on the Lucy. At the very least, some go-juice, running in with the chain shotguns. With the Paragon slowly trundling in with it's Doomsdays, Charge Lances, and Emily Raybeams. 😎 All of 'em yelling bits and pieces of the ⚔Holy Stereotype Doctrine of Emily ⚔ as they close in, begin ringing those doorbells, and bringing the Word of Emily to the masses.
That's some HEAVY Mary(Emmy) Sue x Ma(x)rty Sue type of shit.
These two, a lunatic and an all around cool guy could probably wipe the entire star map just for a couple of sweeps
This series was a fun and educational means to learn a complex game. I bought it last time you made a video on your starting method and now can reliably start and get a fleet going.
Would love to see another play through at a harder difficulty or more drawn out progression, could watch so much more of this game.
I was trying to get this brawler strat to work, I almost gave up, they just seemed to be too cautious to be effective, they needed to push quickly to combat the remnant's ships, especially the way you demonstrate. Then I figured it out, what I was doing was setting the "full assault" toggle and positioning my paragon, what I didn't realize is giving ANY other commands turns off full assault mode. I think the AI gets in close enough to hit with all it's guns on full assault. It's like magic, makes a huge difference, once I realized that, it worked exactly like you showed. Otherwise the brawlers bounce around trying to find a "reasonable" opening to fire instead of piling in Kamikaze style. Very interesting quirk with the AI, I don't think this method would work unless you can make them all very aggressive.
Exactly, the full assault is the special sauce, turns all the brawlers into reckless pilots and gives the enemy no chance to back off and vent flux.
Back in the day I played a fair amount of planetside. I would lead a group of small buggies that showed up in unusual places and unloaded minigun into unsuspecting vehicles. When you said "have you heard of our lord and savior.." my mind immediately went back to the recurring meme of the group. "Have you heard of our lord and savior: bullets? Have you received bullets into your heart today?" Raining minigun fire from a squad full of buggies was lovingly called "Spreading the good word"
Official motto of the Brawlers adapted :)
I stayed up for so long that Francis John uploaded twice before I fell asleep. My sleep schedule is officially a mess.
Damm I remember doing stuff like that back in the day, once did 72 hours straight and then passed out for 24 hours. Not any more though, messes me up for to long.
Hey brother thank you for all your tutorials on starsector they have been a god send!
I refined your strat by adding 3 Monitor's with no guns (the have 2 built in and are cheap to deploy) so the idea is deploy Paragon + Monitor's for distance than deploy Brawlers, what happens is by the time the Brawlers arrive the Monitors are in the middle of everything getting hit from all sides (they just dont care or die) the Paragon is getting up nice and close so the brawlers just fly in with most enemies having their rear to them. (harden sub systems/shields, front shield and solar shield for Monitors)
I swapped the hyper velocity drivers for heavy needeler's to great effect, also if you swap out the high intense lasers for the gravton beams at the front and where the gravton beams were put tactical lasers your weapon/flux per sec will drop to 2308 that's around 40% less flux generation which is huge ;)
Aggressive brawlers also make really good escorts for cracking defensive lines because they can blow up missiles with the guns they usually carry and if something aggressive tries to push you when you back to vent there's 2-3 brawlers jumping on their ass and probably overloading them if they aren't careful
Yeah, fight in the phone booth, but this time there are 3 of them . And if there is 1 down, 2 more are waiting to join the party.
So much fun for the retracted
So I paid my respects at the alter of brawler and my god. Had lots of success waiting for them to clump up before waiting to spring the full assault.
It really is a massive power jump and makes fights so much faster. None of this dancing about it's just charge and keep firing until they all explode.
I'm conflicted by this series. The game is great, and I love what's going on overall, but it's missing something that the Wife and I noticed near the end of ONI; Challenge. You mentioned how difficult and rewarding it was to take down the first paragons after so much failure, but in video form this entire series has been Success -> Success -> Success
Maybe We're alone, and the majority want to see the progress and the success, but it just doesn't feel as fun as when you're actively challenged and trying to solve a problem.
Yea, this is the kinda game where if you know what you are doing its pretty hard to mess up. A lot of going through the motions trying to get money so you can afford cool fights.
Yeah, Playing the game along with the series really makes you appreciate how tough the Capital Remnant ships are, you don't really get a sense for it in the videos.
I sent all day yesterday in a debug save dying to remnant fleets a lot. Just so much. I tried way to many different tactics trying to beat them.
I got really salty with how hard it was, the girlfriend peaked her head in and though I was angry with her because of the look on my face 😅
Not sure that is something I should be including, but I should have showed what happened if we sent in the Eradicator fleet.
@@FrancisJohnYT on the off chance you have footage of it, maybe put it up as an "extra tidbit"? Would be great having a camera on you aswell, so we can see the frustration on your face 🤣
@@CAMSLAYER13 More specifically, players tend to avoid situations where it is a near thing or a losing proposition, in general, and only take fights they know they can win, if possible.
Francis John discovers Zerg tactics - 2022 (colorized)
Really nice, found your channel on ONI. Starsector is soo good
Has officer with elite ballistics mastery, puts him in charge of a Paragon.
Would have to go back and check but I assume they were a transfer from another ship that was ballistic? You need every captain you can get in a fight, increases your reinforcement points and increases the chances of recovering a ship if it is destroyed.
This has been a good series. So this whole episode you kept say full assault, I kept hearing full of salt. I think I like that more. Ether way ty for the content.
I can only imagine Brawlers literally pulling that Paragon into the warp speeds they're flying at.
If you manually pilot a Ziggurat with 4 heavy needlers and 2 lances, with the right skill specs and S mods you can almost solo 3 remnant fleets all at once. CR time is your limit, not damage taken.
From my experience 6 eradicators with a similar design to yours can take on one drone battleship with escorts, so maybe eradicators and gunboats to deal with escorts quickly?
The droneship is good against a single target that melts quickly, so many encircling it and working through its shields and fragile armor seems to be enough.
also maybe trying to capture drone ships with that perk will work too.
Also idk if that's what you intended but your paragon seems to be more of a support ship, incapable of taking on other targets by its own, like almost any ship with mostly beam weapons.
Try changing it's armament to pulse weapons, it may be more efficient (but still will need escorts tho)
I was trying to make a damage Paragon but if I put higher damage weapons nothing gets close enough to it, this version is helping a bit at least. If you check the outro it's present at most of the battleship deaths. I was thinking of swapping it out for two Conquests.
@@FrancisJohnYT What about three Eradicators? They'd provide hard flux damage to shields at similar ranges to those beams, while also being much faster. Just wouldn't be as tanky as the Paragon is, individually.
I hear danny devito saying "So anyway, I started blasting."
For this Brawler meta, you might actually want them set to Reckless; Aggressive still tries to pull back a lot, and don't do well with the reduced range. EDIT: Also, damn, I made an aside last episode about using a Paragon and lots of dual machine guns for remnant fleets, who knew that it'd be accurate (I *did* say that it would take player input, which I was wrong on)? Just needed to slap the machine guns on the Brawler, hah.
I have unpiloted ships set to max aggression but they are still to wimpy, clicking the full assault button tends to resolve that problem.
@@FrancisJohnYT As far as I know, un-captained AI ships default to Steady (including enemy AI ships); thus why you want those few Brawlers piloted by your officers to instead be piloted by Reckless captains, as they will barge in willy-nilly and create opportunities for the un-captained AI ships. Full Assault makes them a bit more aggressive, but still nowhere near the aggressiveness of a Reckless Captain. Definitely wouldn't suggest Reckless Onslaught captains, though, regardless.
@@KainYusanagi Reckless Onslaughts are so much fun tho. "Let me shove my ship in your face, then fire the burn drives"...
I prefer calling onslaught a Big Chungus, its actually a really good "tank" for its cost to deploy, i always have 1 in my fleet. Also never saw a man who relies only on autopilot. I personally like to fly in burst damage ships like sunder to quickly hit like a truck with plasma canon and run. So far enjoying your series, but at that stage that you are in i am usually dropping a save cause its too boring to play and nothing can stop you.
And i am vondering why are you not using mods? You definetly an experienced player, arent you bored with vanilla already? :D
I like to see how far you can take a game without mods, if I wanted to we could edit the fleet size for example but it's not the same. Beating a couple of Remenant fleets at the same time using Vanilla mechanics just feels really good.
@@FrancisJohnYT the fleet size is a soft cap, if your in system/close to a gate. You can just eat the supply cost.
"I could watch that stuff all day"
Well goodnthing it's your job, then
I started playing and I found brawler and based off of your style I was like “little eradicator???”
It’s like some big guns on some rockets lol
23:45 when someone is laughing like 'that', they are having too much fun.
Not quite finished building my eradicator fleet but that one looks more fun🍺
it's a shame to hear this series is ending
Ye old brawlers earn matey a subscription!
To play a more swarmy style I'd recommend the "Fleet Size By DP" mod. It changes the 30 ship limit to a 600 DP limit (equivalent to 30 ships with 20 DP each). That way you can have 100 small 6 point ships or 10 large 60 point ships.
Larger fleet size simply favours the player immensely. Same with increasing the deployment point values (even though they're an option in the game options by default). It sucks out all the challenge, and frankly, most of the fun, since you barely have anything to risk overcoming any more. There's a reason why most of the mods, especially the ones most talked about, increase difficulty while giving everyone more things to play around with.
"there gonna patch this out it's way to overpowered" didn't know this game was made by klei
path brawlers?! can't wait to hear this
i tend to do the built-in augmented field drives too! gotta get around
If you have better deserved S-mods, from the forums mod page, it also gives a 30% fuel discount when built in. Very good for fast high tech exploration, no slowdown in Nebulas if your burn is like 11/12.
A new fleet worthy of Emily's holy name!
Emi-1337?
You breathe life into a game I tried and didn't enjoy. Still don't enjoy it, but like watching lol
It took me a while before I realized "full assault" wasn't Francis saying such and such was "full o'salt"...
i remeber playing this game a few years ago and I think I came up with a similar fleet style of tons of small ships and 2-3 big ships.
I like using swarms of ships too. Try out using the Tempest instead of the Brawlers. Yes they require double the points to enter (8 vs 4) and are more difficult to get in the beginning, but without safety overrides are still faster than a brawler, and I have tested repeatedly with them and they can 1v2 Brawlers and Auditors, or any mix of 2 frigates that I have found, OR almost any destroyer, etc..
The setup I use is simple: Tempest with double lance, empty missile slot as their drones can and do suicide as a guided missile, shield stabilizers and advanced optics to give them that advantage in shooting at a distance. Mix that with their speed and they just wreck just about everything.
Also later in the game, the Afflictor class frigate swarm with triple antimatter blasters and extended magazines; the other two slots just something to keep applying pressure for the few short moments it's not in phase. And just yikes!!
ah so brawler, clasic built.
i also using that for farming redacted.
cant be stoped, this fleet just absolutly destroy anything
I was looking for the cheapest amount of flux dissipation for the DP and the LP Brawler just jumped out as the clear winner. The LP Lasher was going to be my second choice.
If you want to try a frigate that is built for disposability, get vanguards. They can fit 3 missiles, 3 guns, and damper shields instead of normal shields (which reduce damage instead of blocking it).
basically a missile boat as opposed to a gunboat (brawler)
get some vanguards with atropos torpedos alongside the brawlers and you'll have extra missile damage
LOVE. THE. OUTRO. MUSIC.
you can just click+c on enemy ships and it will designate 2 or 3 ships who ever is near the enemy ships. they become more coordinated and effective, this works on capture points to.
Tachyon lance for paragon might be good idea... at least i think he can use it...
Still tho this build is pretty much the exact oposite i would ever use :D Still hilarious to watch tho...
Was scrolling for this one tachyon lance paragon is the closest thing to OP the base game has imo.
So what 4 Tachyon lances? what else? I admit I only put a small amount of time into the paragon.
@@FrancisJohnYT Tach lances for large slots, pulse lances for mediums, you can do a massive pulse hit that way, perhaps? It's risky without having a decent flux pool, and if you get flux'd up, you get screwed up more, if you have everything linked together, but if they're *hard* flux'd up, then you can actually just outright penetrate their shields with tach lances.
If they didn't have abysmal range base (400), I'd even say Antimatter Blasters for the smalls; tac lasers are just the superior small slot for cap ships; an array of those can obliterate things that get in range, but they're not meant for a Paragon, frankly.
If Gravitons actually did more than an abysmal 100 DPS, I'd be happier to recommend them more for medium slots, but with AI ships typically having few mods and everything stuffed into vents and caps, it just isn't worth it on its own. If it gave hard flux natively, then I'd be 100% for it, but as is I just cannot recommend it *for this cap ship*.
The setup you have now is a pretty great disco suppression setup, in general, but I'd swap in Ion Beams for an all-beam setup over Gravitons, since they can arc through shields more as more *hard* flux is built up and start shutting down systems; either way, make sure you use the Advanced Optics mod for beam weapon-focused ships, since it gives an extra 200 su range, and that stacks with the Integrated Targeting Unit.
@@FrancisJohnYT Tachyon lances are great at overheating enemy shields since they do a lot of flux dmg... for the rest i would use long range lasers and LRPDs just to keep constant heat on enemy armor and hull once the shields are down... you are already using the mod that increases range of beam and laser weapons so might aswell go full lasershow :D
Im not 100% on this but... I think Full Assault is a Last Order kinda thing. Giving an order after that resends the full assault order.
Magnificent!
Murder Hornet fleet. I like it.
usefull, thanks man.
The devs are NOT going to patch out overpowered low-tech fleets and designs because for over a year now they've developed a sudden opposition to high tech fleets, with compounding nerfs to the ships, skills and hullmods while introducing more and more OP low tech stuff.
I can't figured out what they are trying to do with beams, all the skills and mods to boost damage reduce your range. Yet all beam ships tend to be glass cannons that can't survive close combat. Which leads me to believe they are only good on player controlled phase ships. Outside of that they are mostly beaten out by the ballistic weapons when it comes to AI control. Well except for the High Intensity Laser, that thing is quality.
@@FrancisJohnYT - I think that was their way to balance beams for being near insta-hit, guaranteed focus weapons where fast ships can dodge other types. If you can apply hard flux with other weapons, then twin tac lance / twin ion beam will keep an enemy ship disabled even through their shields, so they are situational that way. Paragon can overpower most things with 4 tac lances and 2 HVD's, with tactical venting for flux control. Overall, usage for lasers seems highly situational, specific to a role, and other weapons are generally better for straight up combat.
man that paragon pilot is so bad - no shields at low flux, not shooting plasma cannons :D
Gotta love the dakka-zerg-rush ;-D
One of those battleships and two cruisers hurt me very much. Would hate fighting double that.
Also I tried exploring a solar hypershunt in a unary star system. . . I had to reload after everything died.
Happened to me too, first time playing the game, easily disposing Pirates and then I got cocky while exploring.... my whole Fleet (even with some Capitals) got smoked in seconds... yeah let's not touch them for a while :)
I sent in my eradicator fleet ages ago to have a look at the Doritos.... decided that I would wait until I could take the redacted before going back.
17:53 helmsmanship, something your paragon could use (19:15)
SAD MI DIDN'T GOT NOTIVIED OF THAT SERIES EVEN THAT I HAVE a BELL on you're channel
Ah man, I stopped playing after I lost 4 Alpha cores from a hegemony inspection.
Bribe them or kill them, better yet wipe out the hegemony all together.
you can edit your fleet size in the json files and also your deployment points
“The thought of sending wave after wave of my own men to die for my own amusement, its just great”
“Stop toying with your food, FINISH THEM”
“This is a knife fight”
“I have slaughtered so many of these, its been incredibly therapeutic”
“Let’s go up against those nasty dorito-looking things”
You should have pointed out that the LP Brawlers don't just have Safety Overrides built in, but they also have Accelerated Ammo Feeders instead of the Maneuvering Jets that normal Brawlers have. So their DPS is way higher than it appears by the numbers. You may want to try replacing the Heavy Machine Gun with a Thumper. Flak weapons do a lot more damage to hull than anything else so once you've stripped the armor on those large ships you'll kill them faster that way.
I hear thumpers struggle against heavy armour even after it's been stripped.
"The armor value used in the damage reduction calculation cannot be less than 5% of its normal peak value."
But I do have access to the battle reports mod and I can run it a bunch of times with different weapons to figure out what's better.
@@FrancisJohnYT yeah, I've gotten conflicting info over the years about whether or not that min armor value is still treated as Armor by Fragmentation weapons. It makes more sense to me that it wouldn't and the full value of the weapon's damage would be applied because that makes more sense to me from a game balance standpoint. But from a programing view I can understand if the armor is just treated as having a minimum value and thus always reduces frag damage even if it's just a single point of armor.
I've tried testing it but I never had the battle reports mod so I was never sure.
23:45 Evil person laugh
FOR THE SWARM!
I love your Ideas on how to build fleets! :D I got to try thin in my own playthrough now.
You know, an astral can beat a paragon in 1v1. No commander on either ship but of course astral has to be heavily specced for paragon assault.
I bet an astral can beat a radiant in a 1v1 fight with the right setup. Fighters with ion cannons covering the brawlers can also be a big help for taking down faster ships by disabling their engines. If only combat simulations allowed testing against radiant ships. The ship list seems to be quite outdated as it's even missing quite a few standard ships to face off against.
A radiant is a beast to fight against, it's ability to phase skip in and out makes it almost impossible to kill one on one without tricks. I died so many times in testing before I found a fleet that could take them on.
Those brawlers ares like a swarm of angry bees.
You address my same hate for those blue robotic damn ships!!! I hate 'em soooooooooooo much, specially the biggest one (forgot the name). I just can't take 'em down, but I guess I have to redefine my fleet
I spent a whole day trying to figure out how to kill them, I died so many times.
@@FrancisJohnYT I know I suck at the game; I don't know how to pilot the ships correctly and stuff. But I just can't beat them with my mostly capital ships fleet
So this is what happens when a Pawn of Emily's Ex's escapes to the stars...
You *can* bring more than 30 ships, it however increases supply cost by a lot
playing this myself and ... im using like 10 brawlers as hunter killer frigates. Ive got 3 Battleships and a a large number of fast cruisers in my fleed, but the brawlers suprise me . i got them outfitted with reinforced hulls and aux thrustersa as well as the built in over ride and ... they are SO fast and nimble they dodge most damage aimed at them
LP Brawlers are just monstrous, the deployment cost compared to flux/damage is just unbeatable.
Compare it to the Hammerhead which is it's bigger brother the Brawler is half the cost to deploy, twice the flux dissipation, and almost twice the speed. While being far more capable of dodging shots due to it's size and speed. It is my preferred ship spam for killing enemy fleets fast.
I got a doom, slapped alot of ion weapons on it ( 6 cannons and 2 heavy blasters) with 2 annihlator pods, then for extra meme... i put saftey override on it. Im quick and nimble, and the moment i get past a sheild i keep a ship permantly stunlocked as i just beat on it with rockets. further plan is to build in saftey, and either go for expanded missles or go with aux thrusters for more agility. right now its fast and i generate 0 flux with my weapons thanks to my dissipation.. its kinda scarry
Most of the game is well designed but I feel like the 30 fleet limit is super arbitrary. It should be based on something like fleet composition. Something where a capital ship or other logistic type ships would facilitate a larger fleet size. It could be balanced in a way that for most practical applications it ends up around 30 but still. Something more fluid than hard.
It's very easy to change the max size in the Settings.json file if you want to, I believe the dev was thinking of something more like what you have with fuel and supplies where you can carry more but at a heavy penalty, tough I think that was at least some years ago.
Having put the limit up in my games I can understand why the cap exists tough, the game's balance goes to strange places quickly where early on the absolute death stacks will make it impossible for the player, but later on the increased fleet size allow one to absolutely cheese the AI in ways it can't handle...
Also it turns fights into long slogs if you don't also increase the battle size limit as you'll be camping the enemy side of the field waiting for their reinforcements to trickle in, but if you change the battle size limit the AI can't really handle having so many ships in play at once.
I have not tried any of the other frigates this way, but being able to pressure the enemy with so many ships really hurts their ability to vent. I can see why the fleet limit would help avert that a bit. Though I think fleet class limits may become a thing, like 2 capital, 4 cruiser, 8 destroyers and 16 frigates or something like that. Though I'm not sure I would like that either.
It is good to see you got a lot of use out of a mass group of(the best) frigates but the limit feels like it pressures you to use larger ships since they both take up 1 slot.
20:46 - Well, you wouldn't need a speed up mod if you actually piloted one of the ships and blew enemies up instead of just waiting for your AI ships to slowly grind them down. :-P
Not going to do that, it would take to long. If I'm going to farm AI cores I don't want to be spending ages on each fight manually piloting a phase ship.
Phase behind isolated enemy, un-phase and blast them. Phase and run away to vent. Rinse and repeat. I want a fleet comp and I set to attack, speed up the combat and then collect the loot.
@@FrancisJohnYT - You can take out several enemy capital ships (ex., Atlases) in less than 20 seconds by attacking them yourself instead of waiting for your AI-controlled ships to slowly grind them down.
Also, you can have some fun in the process.
What's the _point_ of all the loot and cores you're farming? So you can see bigger numbers on a spreadsheet?
You skip the story, don't pilot ships manually, hardly even give your AI ships any orders. It's just "full assault" and then use mods to speed up the grind. For...?
Covered in bees!
your paragon has troubble to get close enough .. may exchange the 2 plasma cannons with a good laser (high intensity for massive armor dmg or phase lances for their nice emp effects) i REALLY don't understand why there's no large long range anti shield laser .. really really weird thing ..
dram spam is fun
That brawler strat is epic! I took 2x Conquests and 6 eradicators to that hypershunt fight and got wiped. I've noticed that my eradicator fleets are good against larger targets but if there are swarms of smaller ships it doesn't do as well. The way I managed those remnant battleships was to push them hard, if you let them they will just bounce around and grind your fleet down while your guys are spreading out their firepower everywhere else (I say managed but I mean survived). I'm going to try that brawler strat with carriers, I'm wondering how it would fair, the carriers don't even have to engage AND they provide distance point defense. Thanks for the vid!
I lost a lot of fights before I stumbled into Brawlers, I think it's the constant pressure and decent damage that does it. The enemy get no respite and gets attacked from all sides. It's the only way you get to outnumber the enemy.
6 onslaughts with buttload of PD makes that fight way easy
death by mosquitoes.
24:10 I spend hours flying around looking for one. Just one. I have no planet(s) let alone heavy industry. So I assume you found the blueprint and made these. In that case, yeah, cheap.
They are only available on Luddic path or Luddic Church planets I believe, you can have keep chekcing as the inventory's refresh. If you don't have a colony you could try and obtain the blueprints they are a common find, then look in bars for someone who has (spare military fab slots) they can produce them for you, though depending on how lucky you are you might only get enough production for three though it could go as high as 30.
23:45 Death by puppies!
I still smile thinking about nibbling those Radiant ships to death, I hate them so much after all the pain they gave me and finding a way to slaughter them we so cathartic.
There tough because the new update slams a lvk 20 captain in every AI ship.
This has been a fun series. Do you have any interest in playing more Rimworld, especially with the new DLC, I think it would be fun.
I'll go back to Rimworld in a bit, just got to make a brief stop in Kenshi first.
Hard Spoiler:
Time to get your own Radiant
I have a pavlovian distaste for Radiant's they killed so many of my fleets in testing. The only good Radiant is a dead Radiant.
two conquest and rest eradicators work quite well against those radiant,takes a little bit of encirclement manouvers tough
Salvage the AI battleships and pair with the blue battlecruiser for fast heavy assaults.
Idk why people use beam paragons, they are trash, with no hard flux damage and bad ratio of flux/damage you cant kill anything. I always do autopulse paragons and have a ton of PD to spend on maxing both flux stats and adding like 8 hullmods. With that flux efficiency if something comes close it dies, you just move knockout ships behind you wait for radiant to come and when it goes high flux and then the small ships shit on it. I fly my flagships though but I never fly paragons except in station fights the thing is too slow to really apply pressure on battlefield, I usually fly fury and flank enemy fleets.
It's the built in Range mod that makes them so much fun. They outrange literally everything. They may suck at taking down shields but assuming you have a support fleet to crack the shields even for only a tiny bit enemy ships just melt.
But yeah I'm not a big fan of them either, prefer me more Dakka.
nice fleet
Isn't like the best way to counter Radiants (in vanilla game) to throw your own Radiant or two at them? A properly Torpedo specced Radiant can shred almost everything and fast too - 8 Hammers salvo every 4 secs or 4 Reapers every 7 seconds with additional 4 Reapers salvo every 12 secs will delete enemy Radiants; that and I feel 3xTach Lances synergise best with such loadout. And yeah LP Brawlers are just too good, only a Scarab can somewhat compete in terms of power/cost ratio but it's not nearly as good.
starsector>starsector-core>data>config>setting.json
and cherch maxShipsInFleet and enjoy :)
I was tempted to do that, I might still just to see what it looks like.
@@FrancisJohnYT It's Starwar, just remember to do the same for enemy :)
One way they can "fix" this (but why, it's so much F.U.N.!) is limit how much ammo you can take on all of this ballistic weapons, or just make them not so flux-efficient on smaller ships
Ballistics is flux-efficient because it's physical ammunition, rather than energy weapons. No matter how many bullets you fire, it's barely going to be a blip compared to the flux (heat) generated by creating a bolt of plasma within a stable envelope of energy and then railgunning it at a target, repeatedly. The ammo storage is also pretty minor-to-comparable compared to the energy generation requirements for energy weapons; weapons without ammo are basically stating that they have effectively unlimited storage for the rounds in use for a combat situation, and can likely fabricate them easily enough on-site, as well (similar to how limited ammo missiles regenerate between combats).
@@KainYusanagi so, basically energy weapons sucks with one or two exeptions? I still can't figure out how to build Wolf frigate properly on start. Whatever I tried it so flux inefficient and doing so little damage comparing to everything else. Maybe I should look to EMP damage...
@@rogo7330 No, they don't suck except for a couple exceptions. Energy weapons typically have much longer ranges, secondary effects, and equal damage to all forms of defense. Its one big weakness is that most energy weaponry doesn't do hard flux damage, so either needs something to assist, like missiles, or needs a very high volume to over-flux their defensive capability.
Furthermore, there's a relatively wide array of weapons available that each have their own niches. The Wolf can actually be built to become a true terror for other frigates and cruisers and potentially even capitals by giving it antimatter blasters and going in for an alpha strike then phase skipping out of range.
Alternatively it can go for IR lasers and provide some much-needed hard flux buildup, though with lower damage potential (this is more a support setup). You can also give it a Graviton/Ion Beam and 3 Tactical Lasers and let it be a long-range beam platform that can easily get out of trouble if it gets too close. You can also substitute a Phase Lance for the Graviton or Ion Beam and use it for "jousting" in and out of close-range, doing significant burst damage (this works best when player-piloted, not so much AI).
If you slap on two Sabot SRMs you can overload a lot of smaller vessels' shields with those, or generate a lot of hard flux for a larger vessel. If you toss on two Reapers instead (which are fairly cheap and plentiful), you have a support boat that can unload a torpedo-based alpha strike into an over-fluxed opponent for massive damage once a fight.
There's a whole bunch of possibilities; Wolves are actually quite versatile depending on the role you want for them. Just keep in mind that like all High Tech ships, they are relatively fragile, and as a Frigate, it just doesn't have the flux capacity or OP capacity to be able to sit and slug it out.
The sheer ammount of Brawlers is just ludicrus on how they deal with just about anything. Guess they'll be looked at by the Devs at some point, now that FJ has pointed out their OP-ness 😅
Turns out all we needed in the end was just more Dakka
Hi, you can have more then 30 ships in ur fleet you just need to edit the config file, I have mine set to 50
a Whole day spent lookin for a fleet... to beat those... So Where are the Monitor Ships to tank the radiant? 1 of those can easy tank a radiant while the para nibbles em down.
I would ssend an S mod on efficiency on the big boy. so worth it
u can change some ini data to get more ships buuuut ur processor will tell u if its right because the enemy will have huge fleets as well
Yay, new video
Ok I've been making good use of the brawlers ever since i got their blueprint, however, the combat readiness means they are incredibly expensive to repair after battle. Do you guys know of a good replacement that could do a similar job?
Wonder what a TT version of the brawler do with graviton beams and tactical lasers?