Part 25, KISS - Eric Carrs Death (R.I.P.), Eric Singer joins the Band, Recording "Revenge"

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  • @AkDragosani
    @AkDragosani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    R.I.P Eric Carr.. \m/

  • @RobertEllis-e7p
    @RobertEllis-e7p ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Eric Carr, real
    name Paul Caravello, was the nicest guy. What a sweetheart! He was the perfect band mate. He was a true professional, he never complained, always showed up on time and played his ass off. I, literally don't know of anybody that has anything bad to say about the guy. People like Eric Carr only come around once on a lifetime. I don't think he gets nearly the credit which he richly deserves. I wish I met him, but alas we only have the music and the memories for which I'll always celebrate.

  • @digitalbobby42
    @digitalbobby42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the first 25 parts of KISS!

  • @lucyfuir6386
    @lucyfuir6386 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I saw the revenge tour in worcestor the floor was only 3/4 full and there was nobody in the risers or balconies. My friend and I were literally the only 2 people in our whole section stage left balcony so Gene came up the ramp and pointed at us gave us a thumbs up because we were rocking so hard all by ourselves lol

  • @trurobertson
    @trurobertson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saw them at the Omni in Atlanta with Great White opening up on the Revenger tour

    • @goodwoodBD
      @goodwoodBD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Saw them in Nashville,Great White was awesome.

    • @Smith-wk6pb
      @Smith-wk6pb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cap Center

  • @stanleybroniszewsky8538
    @stanleybroniszewsky8538 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I can care less about every excuse Gene and Paul make about bringing Eric Singer in to take Eric Carr's place in the band as he was in the hospital. It doesn't matter if he was terminally ill or even going for a hernia operation. You don't discard a band member just because you want to record the next album. You wait until he recovers or if he passes away before starting a new album. That is just an example of absolute greed and disrespect. Gene and Paul truly had it coming to them at Eric's funeral.

    • @rticle15
      @rticle15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They dont really need an excuse. They were workaholics, especially Paul. So they went to work like any other person. They could have waited for Eric and in retrospect they admit that. But if they weren't famous, nobody would have cared.

    • @ricksantana1016
      @ricksantana1016 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pam sure took Paul to the cleaners!
      There is a lesson to be learned here guys, if the emotional writing is on the wall and against you it’s time to get out! FAST! Never be wise in your own eyes! Never say to yourself “I can change and fix things and make them better” fixing what is dysfunctional and broken is FUTILE!…

    • @channelx92
      @channelx92 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They shit all over Eric Carr. He had no say so in anything and wasn't treated like a member of KISS. I read that he had to ride in a separate limo than Paul and Gene. If anyone asked Eric to sit in on a song for their album Gene and Paul said no. Those two would trample old women if they were in their way to appear on someone's track. Then when he was sick and at his lowest they were nowhere to be found. You can't say that Gene and Paul were the workhorses of the band and just went back to work when the person who is your band mate is still alive. Gene and Paul's narcissism and greed fucked up Kiss in many different ways over the years.

    • @lisag18
      @lisag18 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The music business is a business. It doesn't wait for anyone. It's horrible when someone is sick and fighting for their life but the rest of us must move on

    • @Smith-wk6pb
      @Smith-wk6pb หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lisag18fo

  • @krzi-o5619
    @krzi-o5619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was 26 years old in ‘91 , and I was on my way to work listening to the radio in my car , then they made the announcement , and on the interstate I had to pull over after I heard Eric Carr died. I cried like a baby sitting on the side of the highway for about fifteen minutes , maybe longer. It crushed me , like many others I’m sure. I never got over it when they brought in a blonde headed guy to play drums. I liked some songs on Revenge , and I seen the live shows. But I hated the drummer. And now to this day , because he wears the cat makeup , I still can’t stand Eric Singer. Or cheater Criss as Dr. Fuk calls him. I don’t have anything for Tommy either. The only thing that brought me back to being a KISS fan was the reunion. And I feel the reason they wouldn’t give any information to Paul and Gene was because they treated Eric like someone they didn’t really care about. And I’m sure Eric was telling the truth.
    Rest In Peace Eric , you are still missed very much.
    👍👍👍✌️✌️✌️🙏🙏🙏

  • @KaysonicDre
    @KaysonicDre หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where is Carnival of Souls and the Reunion?

  • @DonaldBermudez-k6u
    @DonaldBermudez-k6u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Paul said in an interview that Thayer was as important or more important "than any other member ever before in KISS". That makes no sense because Thayer literally, very literally pretends to be Ace and the character Ace made, and he faithfully mimics the guitar parts written and played by Ace. I have watched so many interviews and listened to so much of Paul's book that I am begining to think he has a serious personality disorder and is delusional; this is not exaggeration. "Oh Eric is dying? Oh he is dead....well we have tour to do sooooo. Damn I am crying because KISS needs a drummer.......why in the world is Eric's family upset with me when I gave him everything in the world? Do I look good in my funeral outfit? You wanna fuck after the funeral babe?""

  • @CincinnatusPublish
    @CincinnatusPublish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Pam played a good game. Right after Paul no longer had to pay alimony she magically married another millionaire.

    • @jonvisser1509
      @jonvisser1509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the way too do it. When Paul talks about her being in Baywatch I can't place her. Must not have been as hot as Pam Anderson lol

    • @rhetttillery
      @rhetttillery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She played the game but, Paul should have seen it.

    • @booshting3520
      @booshting3520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marriage is not for men. Avoid it at all costs

    • @Smith-wk6pb
      @Smith-wk6pb หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rhetttilleryhe did also

  • @michaeldalton8374
    @michaeldalton8374 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:48 So committed, they swiftly abandoned the classic rock sound of Revenge to chase after the newest fad of grunge, with Carnival of Souls.
    Just as they had in the late 70’s chasing disco, they early 80’s chasing pop, the mid 80’s chasing hair band/shredder thing.
    There is nothing they wouldn’t do for money.

  • @donaldbermudez7771
    @donaldbermudez7771 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey, you left out the fact that, as Gene or maybe Paul admitted in an interview, I think from the 2010s I saw on youtube at some point, that they literally cut off Eric's insurance like a few days before he died; consequently, Eric's family was upset at Gene. I will try find said interview and post link, but Iam 99% sure I heard Gene explain that.

    • @Bls-of1ld
      @Bls-of1ld 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a well known fact

  • @erikhayes1
    @erikhayes1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a part of me that still wonders if Eric Carr would have been able to recover if he had not been given reason to feel that his job wasn't safe. While I believe Gene is as loyal as the day is long, I have never seen anything from that suggests that he is loyal to anyone but himself, and I know he and Eric Carr had been having challenges throughout the HITS tour. I think this is why Eric's family to this day has not allowed Gene and Paul to use Eric's likeness or to produce any kind of a tribute to him. Which is sad, because in reality, both side of the divide are hurting the fans.

  • @krzi-o5619
    @krzi-o5619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Think about this for a minute everyone. And feel free to comment back to me if you think the same or differently.
    But if the reunion had never happened , I believe KISS would have already been retired long before now. If Peter and Ace hadn’t agreed to do the reunion tour they wouldn’t have been able to put the makeup back on and keep going for these past years with two new members. It’s because of Ace and Peter , and only because of them , that KISS is still going to this day. And because they fired them again or they left on their own is the only reason they were able to put two other guys in makeup in their place and keep going. No one would have went and seen them if they had said well we along with Cheater Criss and Fake Frehley are gonna put on the old KISS makeup and tour and play the old songs and have a stage show like you remembered. No one would have went to see them. It’s because of Ace and Peter they have been able to go this far and this long. But where are the thank you’s ? You will never hear them say thank you to those two. Just bashing them every chance they get. Ace and Peter both should be getting compensation for the songs they sing every concert and for using the makeup their likeness that they created. Do you think FF and CC could have came up with those characters ? Hell no ! The original guys deserve more than just , ‘Hey would you like to come up and join us on the last show of the tour”? They deserve to have been invited to be on the whole tour and been able to see the end of the band they help create. That’s just my thoughts on the end of the road tour.
    👍👍👍✌️✌️✌️

    • @danielwhitlock7890
      @danielwhitlock7890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so true

    • @johnhareiel5118
      @johnhareiel5118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True. They act like Peter and Ace are some afterthought when they're just as much as KISS as Paul and Gene! All Paul does is bash everyone. I would've got sick of being in a band with him too!

    • @SteveSteeleSoundSymphony
      @SteveSteeleSoundSymphony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think fans are stupider than you give them credit for. Too many people go to see lights and explosions. They could have pulled off something because of the brand. It would have been horrible, but some people would have paid anyway.

    • @ronbroadfoot279
      @ronbroadfoot279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don’t think Ace and Peter would want to share the stage with Paul and Gene on the EOTR tour, considering that Paul can’t sing anymore, and Gene is struggling to walk in those boots of his!

    • @danielwhitlock7890
      @danielwhitlock7890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ronbroadfoot279 STAN IS WRECKING THE GREAT LEGACY OF KISS

  • @deputyduffy
    @deputyduffy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Argg, this is the last one...do they continue somewhere else?

  • @Skoora
    @Skoora 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Elder is one of their best sounding records. I would have loved to work with Ezrin back then. I always liked The Elder. I bought it when it first came out. It showed that Kiss measured success financially, not artistically. They turned on it even though it is a great record artistically and musically.

  • @ronbroadfoot279
    @ronbroadfoot279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Peter did not hate or dislike Eric. That's just the way "Pawl Thtanley" likes to tell it.

    • @KingDevilCharger
      @KingDevilCharger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Coogan That might be true, but it certainly didn't stay that way for long.

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fact, Peter Criss actually liked Eric a lot, and they talked when Eric was nervous if he had to sing Beth or Hard Luck Woman and Peter told him you will be fine, I am not mad at you, only the other two delusional greedy assholes!!@

  • @davealmer3803
    @davealmer3803 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At least Gene is honest about his ego Paul 's ego is blaming everyone else no wonder Eric stopped talking to him on the Crazy Nights tour as he realized what a Dick he really can be.

  • @mrcurtis73
    @mrcurtis73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just going to ask the same thing. Where’s the follow up to this video?

  • @shawnfranklin9581
    @shawnfranklin9581 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it go past this era? I see after 26 they are hidden or deleted.

    • @kissdiaries
      @kissdiaries  ปีที่แล้ว

      Check my TH-cam Channel for more Vids if you want

  • @johnhareiel5118
    @johnhareiel5118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I heard KISS dropped his insurance while he was doing chemo

    • @johnhareiel5118
      @johnhareiel5118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @coogan8825 I hope it was. It got me upset when they said it

    • @johnhareiel5118
      @johnhareiel5118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @coogan8825 I also heard Gene was trying to sell Eric Carrs Family a Kiss coffin before he died. Is that BS?

    • @johnhareiel5118
      @johnhareiel5118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @coogan8825 I didn't think they were

    • @fig1115
      @fig1115 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Coogan "in fact they did not do anything wrong to Eric Carr at all " Eric was very paranoid about singer ,he told Paul of his concerned many times being terrified singer would replace him , so Eric became ill and what did they do ?????? they used singer ,they cut Eric of and used the guy he was so worried about ,and at a time when he was f dying .
      didn't do anything wrong ?
      “Back to Eric. Eric Carr was a swell guy. Always happy to do whatever Gene and Paul asked. But, he was always treated as a second-class citizen. How a band could survive together with that type of harmony, i.e. or lack thereof it is beyond me. When Gene and Paul ate in the finest restaurants on the band’s budget, Eric was out getting a sub sandwich with his own pocket cash. When Gene and Paul rode around in Limos they never invited anyone else.
      Peter and Ace had to provide much of their own transportation, and as far as Eric was concerned, it was up to him to make the shows. Many times I drove Eric to the gigs in my station wagon because he didn’t have enough cash to hire a taxi. How Gene expected anyone to show up on time for every event under these circumstances is beyond me" Sean Delaney
      stop sucking Paul and genes dick .paul the narcissistic AH that he is even confessed to regret how they treated him , and when has that maggot ever accepted blame for anything ? so it must have been bad .
      gene and paul are both greedy and selfish .so stop with the crap your spinning

    • @ADayInTheLifeofMrsPerkins
      @ADayInTheLifeofMrsPerkins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sounds like a Paul move.

  • @kevinchandler179
    @kevinchandler179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just like Paul and Gene always lying!!! Peter Criss proved years ago that kept in touch with Eric Carr, and thats why Paul and Gene hated that they got along!!!

  • @SN-nh6pq
    @SN-nh6pq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Revenge” at best was a decent album. By this time “KISS” was a “band” (and still is to this day 2022) with Gene & Paul as “KISS” & the other 2 guys as fill in participants.

    • @mightyminx6653
      @mightyminx6653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont agree.. For me after the elder , Kiss had 2.5 really good albums. Creatures of the night and Revenge and the .5 goes to smashes thrashes and hits. The new songs they had put on that greatest hots album were awesome.. All the others wee good albums. I know its not the popular thing to think but hey , im a guy who actually loved the Elder... `And every album before then as well.

    • @SN-nh6pq
      @SN-nh6pq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s very fair Mighty

  • @ronny-2112
    @ronny-2112 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the Revenge album. I personally think it's the last great KISS album a 10/10 for me. Sorry for the Reunion era but Psycho Circus it's fine but not what it could be.

  • @jadoef.m4131
    @jadoef.m4131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Paul can say what he wants on some moral commitment to the band. But when your band mate, friend, and brother of over 10 years gets cancer and you continue on without him and replace on an album. There’s no excuse or moral act in it at all, just greed and selfish actions.

    • @majeliomontenegro1
      @majeliomontenegro1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What's even worse is that Gene tried to sell Eric's parents a KISS coffin when Eric was still alive.

    • @blakesoutherlandLasVegas
      @blakesoutherlandLasVegas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      you clearly don't understand----it is the music BUSINESS and record INDUSTRY----it is not a day care

    • @FreeMTrider
      @FreeMTrider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Did you not listen to the part in this video or Paul saying they were wrong? He admits being wrong. No excuses.

    • @majeliomontenegro1
      @majeliomontenegro1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@FreeMTrider Sure, when it no longer matters and the damage has been done and it's convenient for him, he has a change of heart about Eric Carr. WTF is wrong with you people who think a fake apology can paper over all sorts of horrendous and damaging behavior? According to people who were there, Paul and Gene were planning to fire Eric whether he survived his bout with cancer or not and they made his last few months on this earth very miserable ones.

    • @FreeMTrider
      @FreeMTrider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@majeliomontenegro1 WTF is wrong with you for assuming we people think it's a cover up? All I said was he admits it. Are you guilty of of doing the wrong thing at some time in your life? I'm betting you are. For most, especially in that business, it's not uncommon to feel that people to do these things and later realize they were wrong. I'm not knowledgeable of everything that went on, so why don't you tell us what you know?

  • @MrMarcodarko
    @MrMarcodarko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kiss is fascinating. I loved them as a teenager during the reunion. But they were never great musicians or song writers. They always relied on session players and writers

  • @jonvisser1509
    @jonvisser1509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't place Pam Bowden she was in Baywatch was no Pam Anderson lol

  • @benignasiak3465
    @benignasiak3465 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    After Eric Carr it ended

  • @krisskriss1223
    @krisskriss1223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate the 90/91era.
    Of course because lost Eric and because of how he was treated in the band , and the fact they ( gene and paul) act like they loose a distant neighboor...
    On the other side , Revenge was great ( he will has been as great with Carr....) , and the line up , to be fair, was great . Unplugged was their last great record.
    After that kiss became definitly a touring circus band...

  • @bartlett454
    @bartlett454 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Take anything Paul & Gene say with a grain of salt. It's all revisionist history.

  • @Carlos-xz3vi
    @Carlos-xz3vi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Gene Simmons comments about grunge are such nonsense.

    • @henryliedecke3769
      @henryliedecke3769 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's that way about grunge because Kurt Cobain snubbed him on wanting to co-write songs with him.

  • @charlesquillen35
    @charlesquillen35 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Given how much Simmons and Stanley lie, it’s really difficult to believe anything they say about Eric. Especially Paul. His monotone delivery is a clear indicator of his bullshit.

    • @Smith-wk6pb
      @Smith-wk6pb หลายเดือนก่อน

      Being Monotone doesn't mean anything. Just like having a bass tone doesn't make you a bad ass

  • @Ohionortheast
    @Ohionortheast ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man has paul ever met anyone that he liked? Love kiss but damn he complains about everyone

  • @AkDragosani
    @AkDragosani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yay we get to Listen to Pauls Shitshow Relationship Stories… NOT 👎🏻 Bye Bye

  • @DonaldBermudez-k6u
    @DonaldBermudez-k6u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is really trashy how they talk about Eric, it is hard to like the two main guys after learning about how they handled the whole situation (for instance saying completely unnecessary things about his dead body at the funeral meanwhile he is worried about how people are looking at HIM during the funeral), and Paul talks so much shit on him in his book, it is kind of shocking that someone can be such a dick to someone they were in a band with for over a decade, and who tragically died. Like it is one thing to say these things privately, but to put all that shit talking in a book???? That is gonna be around forever and Paul is really not going to look......already does not look good! Paul....get some damn self awareness, even at Eric's funeral you think you are the center of attention like WTF. I do not like this band anymore.

  • @justinwhite9689
    @justinwhite9689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the real kiss was ace peter paul and gene , but Bruce / Vinnie , Paul Eric/ Eric and Gene were real kiss too to me

  • @MrMarcodarko
    @MrMarcodarko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gene seems more real. Paul is nauseating

  • @williamcurry1132
    @williamcurry1132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I WOULDNT LIKE IT - EITHER - always when someones lies ect

  • @johnm2617
    @johnm2617 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How about Gene & Paul Canceling Erics Health insurance ** 2 Days before he passed !! Talk about Heartless < 😮😮😮

  • @HHH-ye1ro
    @HHH-ye1ro ปีที่แล้ว

    15:57 she played him like a fiddle. Wow. What a horrible woman. And a simpy Paul.

    • @kissdiaries
      @kissdiaries  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah... and Peter with Deb ;) Will come up in my next Vid

  • @xsisterwifex
    @xsisterwifex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was Bill & Ted's BOGUS JOURNEY not EXCELLENT ADVENTURE

  • @leticiabromley6013
    @leticiabromley6013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No, grunge did not kill rock n roll. It was another form of rock n roll. You could continue on, Gene--and say the years between 1995--2001 were another downward spiral, with Korn, Limp Biskit, etc. But along came Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, etc. Talk about how rock was partly dead because of stage wardrobe, makeup..Look at Manson. He brought that back in his own way. And no way would the Kiss makeup characters compare for shock value with the masks of Slipknot. Scariest I had ever layed my eyes on..but you couldn't turn away. These things being sad, I still like Kiss, and I like grunge and I like Slipknot, musically. Do I believe Kiss is on its true farewell tour? Dunno, one thing is clear--most everyone survived grunge. It was survivable. And Dave Grohl would come up onstage (if asked😯) for the last Kiss show.

    • @DrJ-hx7wv
      @DrJ-hx7wv ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Grunge was a record company invention, like rap.

    • @CodeBleu724
      @CodeBleu724 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrJ-hx7wv In a way. Punk finally found it's way like a Tetris piece. The NYHC/Straight Edge scene was NEVER going to go mainstream. They didn't want it to...and gatekept it for years. Which was a good thing. That scene was the purest form of rock at that time in the mid-late 80s. Say what you want about it, the fans were rabid, the players sweated and bled and gave it their all. But it was a niche movement that no one else could understand.
      I would expect the guys in KISS to understand the NYHC movement since they were from New York and were only 10 years ahead of the guys that made that scene what is was. Anthrax was on the fringes of the NYHC scene. Just listen to the S.O.D. album "Speak English Or Die". It was an Anthrax side project and is still one of the hardest albums I've ever heard. It was a mix of punk and thrash. It's pretty much Anthrax with Billy Milano singing.