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About 5 mins ago DICE clarified these changes due to the massive freakout from people lol. DICE said that your reticle will always be where your bullets are going, so these changes are likely just visual now. Thankfully they did clarify quickly.
they did that on bf1...that's why so many left battlefield...bf1 was the beginning of the fall xD
@@ARROGANZtvnah bro, bf1 was a fking masterpiece, sucks to be someone who was bad at the game and Blamed the mechanics
Thanks for the update. Glad they clarified.
@@primemachine146 BF1 was not always a masterpiece, though. It had growing pains, and bullet deviation was wildly unpopular and led to many leaving the game.
I agree, though, that BF1 is a masterpiece of a game (I think it's the best of the series, but that's my opinion), even with some of it's flaws.
@@verenov77 bf1 at launch was for me very very fun, the bullet deviation was abit annoying but it felt right in the game, whereas in bf2042 when you experience bullet deviation it just feel wrong and I can stand it in this game
They're clearly using BF2042 as a testing platform for the next Battlefield, it's so obvious. That's why they're testing random core features modification so late into the game's life.
The only comment that makes sense. Thanks for pointing it out
Yup. And I get feeling that the DICE devs noticed how popular are those "mil-sim" servers and decided to pivot the gunplay into something like CSGO or something like that.
Yes you’re in a beta… just go with it so the next battlefield isn’t trash… hopefully helldivers 2 is applying pressure to all these companies so we get better games.
@@calmarfpsCS gunplay has absolutely nothing to do with milsim lol.
I think the bro means the CS type game's people make on Portal
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I could be wrong though
I feel "powerful" when my sight is pointing where I'm aiming. 🤦
Yeah but the bullets aren't going there because of weapon spread
@@moritzrossbroichYou get it. 😭
Really gives me a sense of pride and accomplishment!
The guns in this game feel like shooting with a paintball gun, I'm all for this change or any change that makes the weapons feel punchier and better.
increase recoil, and sound
Are you high?
Totally agree
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It'll be just visual recoil not actual recoil
Feels like bfv all over again. Hey guys we released pacific and people seem kind of happy and we promised not to mess with ttk again but we decided to change all ranges and damages around, hope you enjoy this change no one asked for.
Making it more random will not affect the casuals, only the precise players will notice everything f ing up their aim.
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I understand
I hope not😢
He must apply for anger management classes.
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i don't that's something that can be fixed sadly, at least not in this game. Hopefully next bf (if it doesnt flop} will either be on an new engine they build from the ground up that isn't a pain in the ass the work with in terms of coding. basically its like the game for it to good ie optimization runs just flat not better with higher fps bc we don't get the fps we should, maps not baren textureless wastelands stripped bc 128 player push that the servers can't Even handled properly (they had to reduce tic rate from 60 to 45) either let alone an engine that should've been retired long ago
@@iDepartureDICE will not be ditching Frostbite any time soon. Even though it is a pain in the butt to work with, they built that engine so they would rather iterate on it than ditch it, it's not happening.
@@michaelc5027 what makes you so certain? not that i disagree as in it Wouldn't surprise me but the engine with idk overhauled (idk how much longer they can do this as the engine it just far to old) with at least decent net coding and game optimization across the board, like BFV imo shit hated it but the beta compared to bf2042 beta(really was still alpha status as something actually worked better, and were balanced better in that that Then official lauch an ex would be borris turret " no its fine doesn't leave it" and then they were like "um or lets just buff it yeah no year lets makit it a 4 shot will more health" but my real point was in bfvs beta i was geting idk 144-200+ fps in it and bf2042 was 100 sometimes get to 110/120 Max and dip to idk 80ish so i hope the 128 implementation was why and it is a core reason so hope designed around 64 players again will be enough. bf has always had bad launches any bf player knoww this but dude 2042s launch state rival's how bad cyberpunk was its in that how can this be that bad unbelievable category
@@iDeparture I work in game dev and have friends that either currently work at, or have worked at EA studios. EA has invested a great deal into Frostbite and it has become EA's house engine which they push on all their studios as much as they can, as this allows them to avoid having to pay licensing fees to the likes of Epic (Unreal) for example. Also, DICE is Frostbite and Frostbite is DICE, and even though it's a massive pain to work with (especially for other non DICE EA studios), DICE calls the shots and changes on that engine, it's their baby. Finally, it takes around six years to build a new engine from scratch, so I would strongly wager on the iteration and updating of the Frostbite engine rather than all out replacement.
@@michaelc5027yeah i didn't expect them to. like you said its not like they can just throw one together from scratch like a quick patch or even a rushed game and definitely don't wanna spend to use a third party's engine i agree, they'll use frostbite. i guess well see how it turn out since that only one of the main factors that will determine how the next title turns out.
So basically, we'll go back to day one, where you shoot and hope that the shots go where you aim?
Disagree with you that every weapon needs to behave the same.
Every weapon is different so it’s logical they would behave differently.
I think what you meant to say was that they need to make sure each weapon behaves consistently
Not what I meant. There needs to be consistency established in some way. Consistent mechanics. Each weapon freaking out and moving / shaking different is DICE doing too much
i think this is a response to criticism. i remember seeing a LOT of complaints saying that all of the guns feel the same, so i think this is dice trying to make them unique. its that simple.
Enders says not a single person asked for this - which is technically true - but a WHOLE lot of people indirectly asked for this
@@slaptassticinstead of just criticizing, people need to start making it clear exactly what it is they want or give the devs something in the ballpark of what is is they want or else the devs will continue making these choices.
@@slaptassticcorrectly said.
@@slaptassticYup, Enders just HAS to always be a whiny baby lol… what a joke.
Excellent. RNG Bullet Deviation. It was SO popular in BF1. Everyone loved it.
Also, sarcasm.
Bf1 didn't have rng bullet deviation lmao. It had set and predictable spread values. Only retards who didn't understand spread and spread increase per shot thought it was "random". The thing bf1 DID have however, was awful visual recoil. Luckily, you could run an overlay to ignore it. Not the case in this game because the bullets follow the reticle.
Spread has been in every game.
@@milsimprodigy Bullet deviation and bullet spread are completely different.
They said the changes are to ARs, SMGs, and LMGs. So this is one giant proxy buff for the BSVM?
It looks like the exact same visual recoil of Battlefield 1.
Right. I don't understand why people are complaining. Clearly they are trying and actually acknowledged the fact that all guns should feel unique and not the same. This is a big step in the right direction. Anything to make the game feel realistic compared to what we currently have is a win. Should have been in the game from the start but better late than never!
@@KirklandShunk the visual recoil in bf1 was one of the worst aspects of the game... but at least your bullets were center tied, so you could run an overlay and ignore it. In this game, the bullets start center tied, but they follow the reticle. So if the reticle is bouncing all over the screen, it's going to be cancer.
Doesn't look anywhere as bad. BF1 recoil tricked you into thinking you need to control your weapon but it was mostly spread. 2042s still has a recoil pattern to control
I'm sorry I can't see the connection, in bf1 you could at least notice the visual recoil, here I can't tell on the smgs. Plus it takes some focusing to actually notice the lmg visual recoil as it blends in with the recoil.
I remember the good old CTE days were we had the chance to tell them what the fck we want and what not.
What's so hard about making it so that wherever your reticle is, that's where the bullet lands. I swear half the bullets you fire don't register as hits.
This feels like a weird thing to freak out about. The recoil pattern doesnt look that different, the shooting itself looks better.
He himself has developed a freaking out pattern
@@lodhiayush6718 I know lol and in his last video he talks about how the BF community's mood swings like a pendulum at any and all news like a planned BR. This feels like such an overreaction
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@@caxo1361 I have not bought (except BF5 duh) nor do I play any of those games, how about you actually bring in a good argument.
Stop posting misinformation. You are misinformed/ignorant. Read the developer replies. It is not strictly cosmetic visual recoil. @@josephschmidt70
Decoupling from screen centre is baaaaad news. It’s BF5 all over again.
This is an awful change.
Next they’ll bring back randomised recoil (don’t you dare DICE!)
Still nothing about fixing the mouse and controller input either.
So they make changes like this, yet they can’t be bothered to fix the broken input after 2 years!
I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being reverted like the ADS changes with the extended and drum mags.
learn every weapon sounds good to me like in older battlefields all weapons feels diferent, but here they all the same like lasers
I swear this feels like déja vu, like how they changed the ttk of bfv a year deep into the game for no reason.
More like Bon Voyage feeling. Leaving the fking franchise to burn.
yeah and that killed the playerbase sadly a lot....
They changed the TTK in BFV 3 separate times.
What's next? TTK changes? These fools need to get a grip!
Actually, a nerf to the Assault Rifle headshot multiplier wouldn't be such a bad thing.
@@wrongwayup. I agree on that one.
@wrongwayup. Would honestly be fine with a global hsr nerf. Like previous games. 1.6 or so. The head hitbox is the biggest it's ever been, and the ttk is the fastest its ever been. With a 2+x hsr, the ttk is obscenely fast.
@@wrongwayup.Nah buff the headshot multiplier on all other weapons instead, SMGs are a joke atm
Buddy they had no grip to begin with 🤣💀
With spread, sometimes the reticle is where the bullet will hit and sometimes it won’t. That’s just how spread works.
Genuinely not seeing the issue.
Visual recoil isn‘t spread. They are two separate mechanics.
Spread adds random bullet deviation but still uses your crosshair and reticule as the main point of reference, so in general your accuracy still benefits from having the crosshair locked on your target.
Visual recoil adds a random element to the visual representation of your crosshair which is way worse because you cannot trust the point you are aiming at anymore.
@@FunLiontry telling that to the actual monkeys in the comments whose synapses are barley able to fire who think this is a good thing and fucking"immersive"
@@FunLion
I know the difference, but you cannot use “the bullets land somewhere different than the reticle” as an argument against visual recoil when literally the same thing applies to spread.
Personally, I hate having high spread and low visual recoil cause it becomes trivial to keep reticle on target but bullets fly elsewhere.
At least now I’ll be able to “see” more recoil, which helps justify the bloom that they are actually using to hit their engagement ranges.
High bloom alone just feels awful.
To be clear, I’d rather have high recoil (real random recoil), but we don’t have that coming any time soon.
@@TheOtherOtherAccount
And that's why Enders made this video.
Adding fake visual recoil and keeping high spread isn't a good solution.
We need actual recoil, less spread (but enough to make burst fire viable) and barely any visual recoil.
But yeah, probably won't happen because they don't want to screw over controller players.
I agree. They're just adding a look to something that I feel shouldn't be in a game.
I think it would be cool to get a game where there's no randomness to where your bullets go when firing.
Wether you're ADS or not, moving or not, your bullet is going to go in the direction that the gun is pointed when fired. The projected crosshair when not ADS will be a dot that shows where the barrel is pointed.
I know that probably won't happen, and that's fine. It's a game and it doesn't need to be realistic, but I think it'd be cool.
They are just testing some stuff they will implement for the next battlefield from the launch of the game. I bet there will be more coming for some other aspect of game in the middle of S7.
The full paragraph is what gets me, like read it to me like I’m a baby
Before judging I'm looking forward the release of the Season 7 (if it ever releases), to test how far these changes will impact the game, something for sure is that the time they spent on this could've been allocated to season 7 content and maybe we could've got the season 7 out already, instead of putting resources into such/major change that don't know who asked for.
Let me start with this: NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS.
- This is not why the guns feels like airsoft guns most of the times. One of the problems is the lack of proper recoil and the other problem is the sound that is really bad, very mushy, dry and they have no weight on them physically.
- Look COD for example, most of the guns feels great to shoot when you pull the trigger because they sound big, it's almost like you can hear every piece of the gun moving in a slow motion video but all at high frame rate, it's punchy. But the visual recoil still the worst part of the game... well 2nd to the aimbot assist
- Some of BF4 guns had the same problem. Was an overlooked problem because the gameplay was a big success for everyone. BF1 they nailed down the sound, BFV was horrible apart from a few guns, BF2042 the SCAR and the SWS are the only good ones and the rest looks like you are shooting plastic bullets.
- Now, in BF2042 we gonna have guns the sounds bad and shake bad while shooting. And why they show in iron sights when you generally feel less the visual recoil? SHOW IN WITH A PROPER LOADOUT!
- The worst part is seeing some of people praising them for it. And they will choose these little ones to show how success it was the implementation of a visual recoil and how the community "REALLY" asked for. NO. NOBODY ASKED FOR. These same people that is gonna praise visual recoil now where asking for other things previously, they were not even thinking about visual recoil.
- They were like: "Oh man would be great to have Op. Metro again. Would be great to have the FN FAL from portal. Would be great to have the BF4, BF1 maps on Portal"
- Then DICE give something that they didn't asked, they like the change because "muh immersion" and they will be hit things anyways because aim assist or will not hit a thing after fire 200 round proned LMG and goes: "Yeah much need change, make the game more realistic. When i fired my PKP back in the range was just like shaked all over the place and i didn't put bullet on the steal target"
- Reality reality =/= arcade videogames
- "MUH IMMERSION" options on the configurations settings so i can toggle on or off.
- Day in and day out and i don't have patience anymore.
Clearly they are trying and actually acknowledged the fact that all guns should feel unique and not the same. This is a big step in the right direction. Anything to make the game feel realistic compared to what we currently have is a win. Should have been in the game from the start but better late than never!
A simple toggling option for this would be the best solution. Casuals like me can have their immersive gun experience and the sweats can have their 100-5 matches.
It’s insane to me that this game is almost two years old and Inputs are still fucking broken.
Every weapon needs to feel different. My k30 should not feel like a am40
almost sounds like the random bullet from bf1
10 secs in WHERE IS POPCORN?!
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Sameeee😂😂
you a real one
What's funny about the season only having two new maps, is that there really isn't any "more" content than we've already had. It's been 4 maps a year (1 per season) and season six has lasted pretty much half a year.... So it's not like we're getting "more" content, it's the same amount of content....
This is a positive change, guns in this game feel like airsoft toys and it's way too easy to spray targets at long range. This isn't a hyper-competitive twitch shooter, plus bullet spread is already in the game like you said so it's not like your gun will be any less accurate. Bohoho, you're going to have to re-learn some muscle memory, big deal. This video is just entitled sweat rage
The spread never got fixed in the first place, to be fair. At random moments after not having fired any shots for a minute or two, I can stand perfectly still, be crouched, look at the torso of a target who is perfectly still and doesn't know I'm there, hipfire on a gun that I know can hipfire decently within 10m and not be able to hit the broadside of a barn.
Gotta be honest, more spread is the solution to the gunplay. Even after implementing "bursting" in 2042 a few seasons ago, you never burst fire outside extreme distances. Everyone is still magdumping. And no, microbursting isn't skillful or in-depth. It's braindead. BF1's gunplay should be the model for how the next Battlefield game handles weapons, at least as long as there's a high TTK and bipods can't laserbeam you to death very quickly from a long distance.
I left after s1 but I’ve always hated that the guns feel like a hollow peice plastic
battlefield 4 fixed the problem, shake the scope frame a bit, and add a touch of smoke and muzzle flash, and recoil but keep reticle dead center.
Why are they putting efforts where they don't need to? Breaking what was not broken? The mouse is still unfixed.
So all guns feeling the same is not broken? That was never the case in the older games. Clearly they are trying and actually acknowledged the fact that all guns should feel unique and not the same. This is a big step in the right direction. Anything to make the game feel realistic compared to what we currently have is a win. Should have been in the game from the start but better late than never!
@@KirklandShunkOk but if they don't fix the mouse input first what's the point? Now in addition to having a shitty input you also have to think that the shots might not go where you aim
wow so weapon types will feel like actual weapon types?😱😱😱😱
complaining just to complain
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@@KannaWorks Except that isn't even remotely accurate. Your bullets don't just magically deviate from where you are aiming lil bro, especially at 15m.
I remeber during bf5 they changed the TTK like 2 years into the games life. It completely ruined the gun play for that game.
I do agree with the concerns about how aiming down a scope is going to be with these changes.
I also agree with your general standpoint.
No one asked for this.
The devs don’t appear to be connected with what the community wants.
There is no logic whatsoever to the devs doing things like this 2 YEARS after release.
Hey Enders you doing ok lol? Have you tried the new helldivers2 game? It’s fun might be a good break from 2042 since they broke it
ahahahha and you said in another vid , if they execute battle royal correctly it could work. there so incompitant they cant do shiptt. in my opinion all they need to do is add i little bit of flinch and all would be good. and also fix the mouse input
Definitely a good thing in my opinion. The slight jittering isn’t something I feel will reduce my actual performance if they aren’t changing actual recoil patterns. This is a great thing for making the guns actually feel like a gun
One positive thing about this change is that we will scream at them so they don’t do it in the next.
Let’s make sure this gets reverted
I was waiting this video from the moment I saw the battlefield tweet 😆
It feels like the company doesnt listen to it's fans,it's been like this forever!
Reminds me of BF5's gunplay rebalance halfway into the Pacific.
Good times....
Why can't they find a decent weapons designer for an FPS game?
Are all FPS designers this braindead? Even a 16 year old sweatlord would do better at this rate.
- IRM
- Bugged spread on launch
- Awful balancing
- Recoil bugs (fixed entirely?)
- Weapon sights not tied too screen centre properly
- Added extended ADS times for drum mags (was reverted)
- Buffing the VHX unknowingly (was reverted)
- Added spread / bursting so poorly that the game was better without it
- (YOU ARE HERE) Adding visual recoil + whatever else they have done when nobody asked or wanted this
so they are adding skill to gunplay back (ik its basically random but at least its harder to kill someone from 1km with an smg)
there never going to learn this is the same shit we dealt with in BFV.they changed the gunplay in that game how many times 2-3 times ? and now
there pulling the same BS this is the same shit they did in previous games which is forcing changes on players that nobody wants or asked for.
I’m glad I moved to bfv
You should move to BF1
Love it, anything that makes Johnny the lvl 12 sitting on a cliff with an LMG from 180 meters away harder for him to aim is a + for me. The game is mid, I've said it for such a long time. It's the way the players play that ruins the game. This game rewards people who don't push obj and punishes anyone who takes even 2 steps.
Remember when they got real audio recordings of real small arms for previous games that were really successful after the bugs were worked out?
dice: we need players feel the power of the weapons
dice dev: they didnt say anything about accuracy right?
looks kinda like the recoil system cod is using
I welcome this change if done right. 2042 did not have enough. BF1 had good visual recoil. If there is one thing i like about COD is that guns feel better. MW2 has way too much but mw3 feels good. Im pretty sure they will have a off switch anyways like the run shake animations. How will this affect jumping while ADS ? . I hope badly. Two type of players in BF. I am on the no bunny jumping sliding grasshopers team in BF. If it really make the guns better and unique and adds a learning curve. Why not? If it discourages beaming people across the map on full auto. Why not? It may just bring 2042 closer to previous titles.
They dont make updates to dead games.
I dont know why they don't look at other things that affect gunplay.
Weapon weight having a modifier on movement for example. I know an LMG shouldn't be as easy to run and gun as an smg. But currently is.
Classes could mitigate a weapon's downside modifier, but not completely negate them.
Audio improvements would also be a welcome change to the uniqueness.
I kinda like these changes looking forward to it, it will bring freshness to all the guns feeling stale and boring at this stage, nobody asked for dosent mean they should try something new, and to be honest if it requires a little more skill to master guns that means there is something to grind for, and anyways not like pros general player only uses 3-4 guns that he likes. Anyways i feel this is a good change by the visuals of it, lets see how it feels
This disproportionately effects mouse and keyboard because mouse and keyboard players have to intentionally adjust their aim in order to aim at targets whereas you do not need to do that as much with controller because controller has aim snapping aim assist and rotational aim assist so the game will follow the target for you instead of you needing to manually move your mouse. I think DICE did this because one of their lead devs got smoked a few too many times by skilled mouse and keyboard users and is mad because they are a controller player and cannot handle real displays of skill
Not the first time Dice changes weapons omg, thats why i hate BF sometimes... What a people thinking about sht?!
Subscribed to you and liked ❤ because im thinking the same - DONT TOUCH RECOIL!!!
One thing I wonder is, of the people at DICE that play the game and those that test changes, are any of them good at the game? I don't mean like a 4+ K/D demon, but like is anyone even like a ~1.5 K/D? I feel like changes like this seem like they'd be cool for players that are like 0.7 K/D - those players don't notice because their mechanical skill is too low to matter. For those who have competent gun skill though, the very description of this seems so obviously negative for gameplay integrity and feel unless the changes are so subtle that they're essentially meaningless, at which point why bother?
Change for change's sake and nothing more. I'd like to say let's see how it feels in live play before jumping to an extreme conclusion, but this is clearly an idea that is polarizing at best, and likely to be overwhelmingly negatively received at worst, and something that I highly doubt any actual player of 2042 was asking or hoping for. Extending season 6 by so long, you'd hope to be blown away by every aspect of season 7 - instead, it's.... super exciting changes to visual recoil lol. (I know S7 will be more than just that) Anyone ever hear someone suggesting their favorite FPS or 3PS game to their friends because of the recoil being super immersive? I will NEVER understand how so many game developers can be so out of touch with their own games and the people who play them.
It can all be traced back to the 22 person diversity equity inclusion team.
That's why no proximity chat no team chat :/
lol… this is the way. Bigger weapons are heavier and generally have more visual recoil. If you are looking for more realism, this is the way. Weapons shouldn’t be just a visual beam.
Me thinking when maybe I can comeback and grind this game in Season 7 till the new game but now they are trying to pull a BFV TTK 2.0
Lol I saw so many people complained about zero recoil, now they complaining there will be recoil. Lol😂😂😂
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Pffft if you find that intimidating mommy must keep you wrapped up in cotton wool lol 😉
Lmgs shouldn’t be laser beams. Excited for this change.
They’re still going to be lol
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Good idea with the visual recoil. That was the absolute killer feature in MW2 last year. Everyone loved it.
Thank you Jesus for Enders. Keep up the great work!
idk man I like those changes. Visual recoil and shooting animations are a huge part of weapon immersion, to the same degree as sound design, even if it makes shooting your gun seemingly more random. Of course the sweatier players won't like this change because it could destroy their 5.0 k/d but the filthy casual player (the majority of the player base) who doesn't care about perfect recoil control, every bullet connecting and headshot streaks will appreciate the change.
2042 guns got no kick, they need to be changed. it will have no negative impact to most because the game is not meant to be competitive in the slightest, and any change geared toward making the game feel more competitive instead of more immersive is heavily misguided. The feel of weapons has sucked since day 1. if they could get weapons to feel like they do in MW, that'd be great.
Agreed 👍 Clearly they are trying and actually acknowledged the fact that all guns should feel unique and not the same. This is a big step in the right direction. Anything to make the game feel realistic compared to what we currently have is a win. Should have been in the game from the start but better late than never!
Not even real guns behave like this. You're on a strange timeline my guy.
They could have just increased the recoil without changing how it works and making it random.
@@griffin1366 no one said anything about realism. Immersion =/= realism.
Borderlands guns feel somewhat immersive to shoot because of their sound, mechanical and visual design. They're definitely not realistic though. Shooting the Bastard in Metro 2033 felt immersive because the insane muzzle flash lit up a dark tunnel while it blocked your whole vision, even though it wasn't realistic.
Milsims are realistic, not necessarily immersive.
Just unistalled for the last time after the 500th tank round dusted on a low health chopper.
Highly doubt itll be your last time if youve even played that much
@@lukeludwig1055 Your right they will probably UNinstall the game again because it is bad
Im sure you'll be back, clown
Is this random bullet deviation like from bf1
Bf3 G3 had punch.... With SOUND not visual recoil....
bf3 had some visual recoil
And as someone who played bf3 a shit ton back in the day, my most used weapons were the m416 and the L86A2 lmg. Both guns had some of the lowest visual recoil and performed the best.
Remember that time Dice randomly changed bullet damage over distance in BFV? Yeah, I guess they didn't learn
You're about to have a stroke. The rage is amusing!
The weapons design team is the weakest link at DICE and the most incompetent too, even after Formoso leaving DICE
At least the engagement ranges will be reduced by this, I hope.
Let's hope so!
No they wont prolly, still could easily beam ppl across the map lol.
almost almost makes me miss random recoil in bfv as the balancing factor
Yeah that bf bulletin post confused the hell out of me. Like why?
What happened to bf4 style feel and recoil of the weapons and vehicles!!!
Idk this seems like a good change, I think they are preparing for the next battlefield release and using this as a test. I recently played Battlefield 3 and every gun in that game feels very distinct and the recoil and bullet spread is very high which means it takes more skill to take someone down and engagement times increase which I prefer. In 2042 the issue with the gunplay is the weapons all feels like lasers it’s basically Apex Legends 2.0
People were levelling the battle pass too fast and not buying tier skips, so they added more randomness to make levelling slower and to incentivize the buying of tier skips.
I agree that the way this game's gunplay is doesn't fit this change. However i always hated how every gun feels like im shooting in apex legends. and static and weak, especially with the audio being weak like u mentioned, but still this game def needed more improvments like this. Its just that almost everything else about the gunplay needs to be addressed first. BF1 had a similar and VERY satasfying visual recoil where the bullets still always went center with the reticle dispite the spread in the games machanics. Guns were mostly balanced in bf1 more than every other BF game, and if im not mistaken you said the same thing a while back in a video about a reticle centering bug, but yeah i say this is a step in the right direction, but AT THE WRONG TIME. Lets hope they do this right even tho theyve proven time and time again they can easily fuk it up. Even in previous games.
They need to fix the gun play cause people shooting halfway across the map
"people have better aim than me therefore I request it be changed"
It’s not every gun in the game. It’s just the auto rifles
I have become Viccini from The Princess Bride: laughing my head off while dying.
I did always want guns to feel more punchy and varied like in cod. I’ll be interested to test it out. Dont write it off until you try it. from bfv the gunsbhave felt like pea shooters
from "its a feature not a bug' to "sometimes it wont'
honestly just want an animation rework, not the movement just the animation of the movement of how the gun moves on your screen. The game feels like a battle royale.
Tried to play this game on controller, feels awful right now with default settings
Im on pc and play with controller and yeah there some type of input lag. Thank God there is Nvidia Reflex that helps with that.
Bang on. And believe me, if you hadn't blocked me on Twitter, I would share the shit out of this video! The amount of players screaming "thank you" and "this will be great" need educating and this video would serve that up in abundance. I can't think of a single example where visual clutter has added value to an FPS. Can't wait to see the results of your testing.
This was the whiniest thing i ever heard. All the guns feel the same right now. They all fire like it was laser weapons, you cant miss. And the accuracy is ridiculous. I mean you should not be able to spray a sniper with an Smg at 200+ yards, but in bf 2042 you can. The aim punch is zero. Maybe you should play OW2 instead if you want weapons with zero recoil. I welcome these changes. This way you actually need skill to kill someone instead of just being good at tracking. They should also increase the accuracy penalty when jumping and shooting, seeing all the sweaty infantry players use this to their advantage.
I'm getting flashbacks to the BFV gunplay changes. Dice is hopeless 😂
BadCompany2 had the best visual recoil, if it's similar to that I'm all for it
They said "let me go take a mechanic that call of duty just put back in because they got a bunch of backlash from their community for adding in, fps players LOVE visual clutter"
All I want is to be able to aim without aim assist and that too with no hidden acceleration for controllers. That’s ALL I want. I’ll deal with the other shit. But please for the love of all that is holy. This might be the first BF or first shooter to go without proper inputs for both controller and mouse.
All of the guns are so easy to use and are just laser beams. We make the gun play require a bit more skill, and actually try to balance out the weapon stats. Bf4 and BF3 had great balancing between weapons, and there were pros and cons to every weapon, which was balanced and it worked out fine.
900rpm? Less accuracy, more recoil. 600rpm? Better accuracy and less recoil.
But in 2042, you’ll get a high rate of fire, high damage, and low recoil. There is literally no proper balancing to that. No point in dmr’s and “medium range weapons” if I can just fully automatically, 1000rpm, laser beam a person who’s unfortunate to run across a field with no cover.
I ask for it.
Im getting flashbacks to BFV and the "lets change the damage of all weapons for no logical reason 2 years after release" that no one was asking for.
Spot on. Nobody asked for this changes. Meanwhile hit reg, mouse input, movement and other things that should be prioritized are left in the to-do bin. Doesn't paint a pretty picture for the next game, either.
The weapons all sound ok. They’re not great because the actual firing isn’t punchy, it that’s because weapon audio is way to low.
Like the changes. Represent what happens in real life when you shoot a gun. Not that many of you kids know what that is.