Willie Frazer?Lose all credibility having him on this.2 young protestants were taken from his pub and given an awful death by Loyalists.His father was a murderer too.Having him associated with the army goes to show how blurred the lines were when locals looked on the ranks of the security forces
Paul Carolan He is dead, but only last week it was reported he gave British army guns to loyalists murder gangs who in turn murdered innocent people. A wicked evil man who pretended he was a innocent victim of the war.
You should look into the history of Brian Boru because although he didn't unify all of Ireland, he did unite most of Ireland at one point. He is considered to be the first "High King of the Irish".
You should look into Dermot Macmurrough the deposed King of Leinster as it was he who invited the Normans in in the first place having had his own lands taken from him. The whole saga started through the greed of Irish Noblemen though you won’t hear many Republicans admit that.
My cousin was in the Grenadier Guards in the 80s. When he was stationed in Belfast, the provos would stand outside the barracks at night calling his name. "Duffy ya English cunt, you're a dead man in the morning" They knew his parents were Irish, his name and where he grew up. He still laughs about it to this day but he is a bit of a nutter.
lots of people in uk grew up there born to irish parents although if theyre in the british army serving in the 6 counties and coming from that background,theyre nothing more than stupid cunts
@@phillipasalisbury7570 Hi Phillipa I cannot remember the newspaper im thinking the Sun or Star ....the photo was of one of the corperals laying dying orr dead with a priest giving the last rights...The soldier looked awful and the only clothing on him was his underwear.....God bless the family if they seen this picture of their son..Hunts me to this day..
@@jackietreehorn5561 Certainly I do, I’m half Irish myself, but at the time I was 16 from a northern mining town with no knowledge or interest in politics, I just wanted a different life and see the world. I don’t think anyone joined the Army to go to Northern Ireland as most of us would never have understood the politics over there at that time.
I love how this skewed documentary conveniently neglects to mention that a couple of days previous to the 2 soldiers driving into the middle of a funeral that another funeral was attacked by Michael Stone. People were on edge and this appeared to be another attack, and that's why what happened, happened.
Wow this brings back memories of Besbrook I was also deployed on G40 anyone else went up there looking at the local slags through the cameras. 😂😂 we used to always watch that pub in Crossmaglen and I can’t remember the name of it now. A captain went missing in there years ago working with 14 Int.
Would you be willing to give me more information regarding your time in G40? I'm in the middle of a thesis project at the moment and am trying to learn as much as I can about the towers as not much information on them seems to exist in the public realm.
Maybe when mentioning the two soldiers killed at the funeral in Belfast, maybe mention that there was an attack not even a day before at another IRA funeral. The situation was fucked
As an ex guardsman and having completed 3 tours over the water all I remember is trying to fight with 1 hand tied behind your back. If they had let us fight properly it would have been over very quickly.
Of course it would have you fucking dimwit. a bunch of murdering bastards shooting kids in civil rights marches and colluding with loyalist death squads. The butchers apron.
what did you have in mind? carpet bombing, cruise missiles? werent you there to assist and protect the police like that ex brit army member in the comments above says? who admitted doing nothing about an ruc paedophile
Listen you had volunteers willing to lay down their lives by starving themselves. Whether you had two hands three hands you never would have changed the minds of these men. As a wise man once said “the most dangerous man you will come up against is one with nothing to lose”
@@martincampbell8126 The question I ash myself.why can both sides not live in piece. Both sides are going no where. All this bitterness gets no one any where. Just more bitterness generation after generation.
I'm sorry your father was injured. I truly am but he shouldn't blame the IRA if he does. He should blame his own government for putting him in a place he didn't belong. I hope he finds peace with it all.
If you get a signal you keep on going to extract yourself from the IED area. You then ONR and the relevant agencies will come back to do a follow up and clear the area.
I served in south Armagh in the 90s and early 2000. Fucking mad place. Biggest fear was snipers. I remember a young soldier was hit in the face killed and a nurse was hit by the ricochet at besbrook. Mortars were also a big fear. They had these like home made gas canisters on the back of trucks filled with explosives and launched on the HLS. Golf towers were exposed. Lost more men in Ireland than in Iraq and Afghan. All forgotten about now.
@@jackietreehorn5561 plus the noise of the helicopters. OMG it was 24 hours non stop I shit you not. We used to fly over the border by the way and carry out operations and patrols many of times. That’s a fact. No one will admit it but we did it all the time.
@@jackietreehorn5561 I’m a catholic by the way. My Mums side were from the the south a little place called passage east. She gave me a st christoper to wear to protect me on my travels. RUC we’re like you’re not a taig are ya. What the fuck do you mean, what’s a taig? I’d say. 😂😂
Those gas canister were called barrack busters. I'm sure you remember the sign next to the chapel? "Built by robots, flown by dummies, taken out by 2nd batt barrack busters". When I hear the term 'golf' I always think of the outpost at drummackavall.
Served in NI in late 90s. Saw incredible humanity and astonishing hatred and exploitation. The later by the RUC. One particular police sergeant was known as the "fiddler", not for any musical acumen, but for his penchant for sexually assaulting girls as young as 8 while on patrol. We had to stand there and watch. He was reported often, nothing done. Our job was to protect the RUC, not the citizenry.
so when your reports were ignored, was that it? no other ideas? leaking to a journalist is one straight off the top of my head, a couple of seconds thought
@@smokeyjoee6802 Very good question. I have a very good answer. Quick question from me first. Have you any knowledge of the workings of the security forces in NI during the troubles. ie. have you ever read a book, report or such? Can you remember reading the newspapers during this time in relation to NI?
@@ardakolimsky7107 i have read many books, lived through almost all of it and was harressed daily since i was a schoolkid on my paper round until it was over by members of the british army, now whts your excuse
@@ardakolimsky7107 if you count an 8 year old child as a woman, what other course of action did you take after your reports were ignored, when u seen a pedophile at work?
I remember doing the first vehicle patrol into Cross in almost 20 year's. The look on their faces was pure shock, when we rolled up. But I jumped out and stood at the corner. And a young woman pushing a pram, passed me. And told me I had to change the battery on my white sifter, as the low battery alarm was sounding. I couldn't believe she would know about our so called secret equipment. Then I used to do lots of gremlins in West Belfast, when I joined C.O.P. Loved my time over there, even though there was bad times as well.
@@smokeyjoee6802 When did any British soldiers ever use children as cover in Ulster? We went round in military uniform, so you knew who we were. We had bases with big sings outside, so you knew where we were. I only remember one side sneaking round in amongst civilian population. Taking pot shots, then running away into crowds of innocent women and children. And anytime we did see them, their faces were covered with balaclavas. I think you need to re-think your last statement. Or give me evidence of British soldiers using children as cover, from the big brave terrorists?
@@bwkid1 i was one of those children, and was too young to realise when we were told, then i watched while it was continued long before you arrived and after you left yaa stain. it was obviously part of the training. who are you trying to kid
i dont need to give you anything. i was there, i seen it am sure before you came to our country and after you left. it wasnt unusual to witness it regularly it was not isolated events and it was obvious a tactic taught. youre a liar if you are going to try and say you nnever seen it
@@bwkid1 you are very quick to assume i supported any violence, i dont condemn or condone because i know many people who felt it was necessary to take it to that level and know those people well enough to know that they didnt take that decision lightly.
.....1:00 bloody hell it's the bloke form Rainbow. All piss pour comments aside this is yes, probably a one sided recount of the awful awful carry on that was the "troubles" . What it does show for me, is, that as always it's the people caught up in the middle that have their lives ruined. Where as the ruling elite remain unaffected. Look to how the British Armed forces have conducted operations in the middle east in comparison to the United States Armed Forces. At 11:33 onward the two men left, abandoned by the establishment, to be murdered by the "mob". Beware the "powers that be". again thank you for the upload.
Interesting comment. If the tables were turned it is highly likely it would have been different. Shame it did not go that way really. The IRA would have their arses well and truly kicked.
Awesome at what, may I ask exactly, trampling on old pensioners, brutalising young boys in army barracks.... Well that crowd are been hammered in Afghanistan at the moment... Guess with all the technology they can't fight against a man with sandels.
I kinda feel a bit sorry for that solider who got shot in the spine, he doesn't seem like a bad lad but unfortunately while he was roaming the hills around Crossmaglen his spineless government was looking for a way out. His tour of duty like all the British soliders who served up north was for nothing, driving up north now its hard to spot where the border is things have changed so much. A united Ireland is inevitable.
a lot of lads were only here in ireland because they were told to. many even from here had irish friends that became enemies as we see in the video. sadly those who gave the orders will never pay the price. TAL 32
@R D Im sorry to tell ya this but when the brits signed the agreement in 1985 that let the Irish state have a say in the running of the north that was the start of the end of the north. Since then its been unity by stealth. Then came brexit, the gift that keeps on giving and the dup support of a hard brexit has pushed things further along. As much as you may want to believe there will be no return to trouble,last time the brit state armed the loyalist, that wont happen again.
I love the way they describe Ireland “Bandit Country” shocking, no these soldiers invaded a sovereign country attacked local Irish people and what the soldier is hurt that locals ignored him on his raiding missions, no one forced these soldiers to join up to the British army, they all thought They were going to have a great turkey shoot, but realised we had plenty of turf in our sheds
@Antonio Bromelini The British Army disgraced themselves in Northern Ireland, murdered school kids, woman and young men. I was there in 1990 and it was shocking. It was clear the British Army was out gunned, out smarted and out numbered but the torture that the British Army did to young men made Hitler and his Getstopo look like amateurs. You need to repent as alot of soldiers were cursed and their lives were marred with alcoholism and abusive domestic situations.
Noel James Healey shut up you nationalist prick...you are still part of Great Britain and will ALWAYS remain so....enjoy.Gid save the Queen. #Loughgall
@@alexwilliamson1486 Alex, what has the Queen ever done for you, she takes 35% off your miserable wages, never buys anything while every single thing you buy is indirectly taxed 23% .... Get your priorities straight, you my friend are a mug! Do you think for one moment the Queen would look at you? Invite you in for tea and crumpets ? Invite you around for drinks? I think you are the idiot to support spongers.... Then again, I don't bank roll her, I only look after myself., Northern Ireland full of foreigners now, where's the unionists ... Soon it be known as little Poland
@Antonio Bromelini I agree a terrible act of cruelty evil minded people, but the fact remains, British soldiers had no right to be in Ireland, now the mainland full of foreigners, Britannia is over, invaded by foreigners from the four corners of the world ... What you reap you sow
Unknown2234 Unknown “squaddies are respected”. Yeah of course they are. Fodder for Irish snipers and afghan IED’s then thrown on the scrap heap at 38 unless of course they went to sandhurst and played the toffs game. SF are abstentionist politicians because they won’t take an oath. Why take an oath for something you spent your life destroying? 51% tick tick 🕰
Liam, I joined up and I was never afraid to die. I was an Ulster man that put on a uniform and served as a British soldier in my own backyard. The Provos were afraid to take us on face to face as they knew that we would win. So piss off with your mindless thoughts as to how brave you provos were, they were cowards.
@@trevdoc7048 I'm Catholic and have a huge respect for British Soldiers, I hate their involvement in NI but find it impossible not to respect and appreciate there commitment throughout the world wars, Iraq, Afghan etc... but I don't think you can call The Republicans cowards just because they fought the only way that would give them an advantage; of course they wernt going to fight the Brits 1 on 1, that would be stupid due to the Brits superior weaponry and training, they did what needed to be done and in the end neither side won.
Might want to know that after the War of Independence, the British kept their agreements with native tribes that they were allied with. The 13 Colonies, however, didn't.
im from andytown and the thing with the 2 corporals is something that haunts us all. in hindsight they should have had their arms broken and handed over to an ambulance but this happened 3 days after a loyalist attacked an ira funeral killing 3. i remember watching this on tv knowing they would die
michelob81 it’s a pity that these two men were murdered in the way they were. The tv news from all over the world portrayed all catholics in Northern Ireland, that they were animals. If that what you had said happened, two men would still be alive. Wars are ugly and when we look back at the troubles, all sides lost people for what!! A piece of land that we all say is ours but in fact all we will own in the end is a plot that we will fit into when we ourselves die. Sad but we all need to put the past behind us. Carrying hatred forward will only dent our future and the future of our children.
@@trevdoc7048 i understand you want peace i want it tobut how can we have peace in this made up thing we live in? im embaressed asking england for 90 million every year. england just told us we're not europeans any more
michelob81 the issue that people in Northern Ireland have. They vote based on religion, not on who can deliver the best policy for all the people. I left Northern Ireland because of the politics and that people still want to live in the past. The province is still 20 yrs behind the rest of the UK. Our transportation system that is there, only delivers to one side of Ireland. The train network is too expensive to use and needs updated. If you live between Derry to Fermanagh, then the chance of you grabbing a train is Zero. Sinn Fein don’t want to take their seats in parliament as the won’t take the oath in London to the queen and country, however Martin Mc Guinness shook hands with the queen. Then we have the DUP who say the won’t negotiate with Sinn Fein and yet they sit and blame them for all the wrong doings in Ulster. I’m glad I moved out of Northern Ireland as I now have a better life for my family and job prospects are better too. I hate the way children suffer in Northern Ireland due to the very ignorance , as politicians won’t talk to each other. Sad but it won’t get any better soon. Public services are loosing finances as departments are closed due to the closure of Stormount. Very sad but true.
@@trevdoc7048 absolutely ecstatic you fucked off out of Ireland....we never wanted you lot here in the first place....planters will never be welcome on this island.....éire32
I grew up in The North during The Conflict and met hundreds of British soldiers. I can count on one hand the number who were not numbskulls devoid of morality. Many of them are now homeless or in jail or have substance misuse problems and it's karma.
Maybe so. But don't you think that such issues were common to both 'sides?' I'm 63 years of age and my first question if my government asked me now (though its most unlikely) to kill a complete stranger, would be, 'WHY?!' When you're young, easily led and facing a life on the dole; being part of a 'family' such as the British army or the IRA must seem quite attractive......
All the high tech look out posts, unlimited budget, tens of thousands of the” best soldiers “ in the world, the latest weaponry, massive bases, helicopters, intelligence agencies, loyalist allies, sas, ruc, udr, etc etc etc, and they still couldn’t beat a handful of farmers!
Respect to every single soldier who served in the conflict in operation banner and to those who laid down their lives for Queen and Country we salute you.. LEST WE FORGET 🌺🌺🌺
First of all I was sick about what they did to those two soldiers bodies (there's a TH-cam video of most of their deaths). I think one of the soldiers had been in N.I. longer than the other, thought he'd been clever & show the newer soldier the "action" that's why the British soldier being interviewed said, "They should never have been there".. The other thing they did wrong was not standing back-to-back & firing (even into the air), this would have possibly given them some time to get back in their vehicle, "put the pedal to the metal" & get out. I guess all the training goes out of your head when surrounded by people you know want to kill you & are, most likely, armed also. I wish that the British "higher ups" would let the police do what they need to (shoot if they're being shot upon). Surely they do, you might ask? But NO. The police in N.I. have to wait for a series of codes to come down before they can even draw their weapons, never mind shoot. Never join the British Army. If you don't "know someone", you're just cannon fodder. By the way, calling it a "war" is nonsense because in a real war BOTH sides wear a uniform to level the playing field. The police here had a time, after which a new battalion of Brits came in & they, basically "babied them". When I was 4 years old, two soldiers on street patrol said disgusting things to me (it was sexual vulgarity & was explained when I was much older). That was our "norm". As was not picking up fountain pens on school buses, the I.R.A. booby-trapped those! However, giving the U.S.M.R.C.D. A "place to relax" many years later, I realised that the soldiers from England who disregarded our childhood & respect (no spitting or bad language) were basically like new marine recruits, teenagers dressed up to play a very serious game.............
How could a catholic population of 500,000 ordinary Irish catholic civilians achieve a level playing field with a nation of 65 million British with a well equipped modern army. That has to be one of the dumbest statements I have ever read on TH-cam.
@@briankelleher2156 The stupid thing really was that it was Republicans who ASKED for the British army to come to our lovely country NOT Unionists. I did talk about things we had to go through when the Brits flew hundreds of very young & not well-trained soldiers our way!! To them, no matter our beliefs, we were ALL "the enemy" & I have recounted elsewhere that soldiers often thought it amusing to talk to a female child about having sexual assignations (as happened to myself starting aged five & the other girls in my family). Many years later, as I sat around the table with gormless U.S. marine recruits & naval personnel that they were basically all poorly trained, not so bright cannon fodder!! The statement wasn't so stupid either as the Brits worked behind the scenes, trying to pacify the I.R.A.., basically working against the so-called majority. I was blown sky-high by an IRA bomb in my home city of Doire as a 4-yr-old, a large part of my family were from Gweedore (the Gaeltacht area of Donegal), most not speaking a word of English until they were adults but Irish citizens, like us were only, "collateral damage". I think you've forgotten the motto, "Six into thirty-two doesn't go" or even "26+6=1" & also that the Republic of Ireland was 96% Roman Catholic, almost all IRA supporters or operatives, so your numbers are a bit "off". Therefore you can't cry like a baby now, pleading that Catholics in the 6 counties were a downtrodden minority as they had PLENTY of backup from across the border in the form of both willing IRA operatives & safehouses in which to hide, after a murder had been committed or bomb had been detonated, just a couple of minutes car ride (even a walk) across the border . In those "bad old days", any Irish girl, unknowingly taking a dance with a soldier, was swiftly labelled a "Tout" (the slur in those meant that the girl was giving soldiers important intelligence). Her "sentence"?? She'd have her head shaved, was tied to the nearest lampost & boiling hot tar, adorned with chicken feathers, was then poured from her head to her feet & there she was left, to die or have more scorn put upon her by adult men who would beat & spit upon, usually a teen, who was absolutely helpless - just for unknowingly taking an innocent dance with "the enemy". Don't forget, thanks to the "Good Friday Agreement," men who'd murdered their own countrymen (BOTH Republicans & Unionists) were allowed to walk free as though they were altar boys & that just doesn't make sense in any civilised country. You take a life, you must pay the price. Easy! They did it the coward's way by calling what they did, mostly to their own countrymen, a "war" yet they didn't have the courage to don a uniform. The same situation was faced by American servicemen & women in Vietnam - they didn't know if they were facing innocent civilians or armed combatants....As for the British army being well-equipped? As we watched the news from Gaza the other evening, we recalled that it was Yugoslavs who provided Semtex (unlike gelignite, it had no odour & therefore couldn't be sniffed out by dogs) the rest of the arms or the money to provide them were supplied by Libya, HAMAS &, sadly, people whose forebears immigrated to the U.S.A. & believed the lie that they were supporting "freedom fighters" who were trying to win a war against oppressors. We must NEVER go back to those days. Ireland is a beautiful country & must never be destroyed again by ANY of her own people!!
@@CartePostale.why did the republicans ask for the British army? You are from there so you should know. It was because when the catholics started looking for equal rights and an equal vote the unionists saw this as a threat to the union and decided to do a bit of ethnic cleansing. They burned down whole streets and neighbourhoods. Plenty of footage on the internet. The army was welcomed with open arms and cups of tea as a peacekeeping mission. The catholics thought they were going to protect them but it wasn’t long before their true intentions became clear. I am sorry that you had some horrible experiences growing up, no child should have to suffer that. To say it wasn’t a war is wrong. There was two opposing sides shooting and bombing each other . That is the definition of a war. There was a reason republicans didn’t wear uniforms they were not an official state army. The were a part time civilian militia of approximately 2500 ordinary Irish men and women who came together to protect their minority community which was about 500,000 at the time. The British soldiers who had a maximum deployment of 21000, were well armed and trained as they had the resources of a nation behind them. The republicans did not and had to make a lot of their own weapons. To say the catholics were not an oppressed minority is deluded. They had the shitty jobs, education and housing. They didn’t even have an equal vote. The voting system at the time was based on your wealth. The more business and property you had the more votes you got. As the Protestants had most of the wealth they always had most of the votes. It was a system designed to keep the unionists in power and didn’t exist anywhere else in Britain. When the catholics peacefully protested on Bloody Sunday 1972 they were gunned down by the cowardly paras , shot in the back as the dispersed, who then placed guns on the dead bodies, half of whom were under 18, and claimed it was an IRA attack. This was a lie they maintained for nearly 40 years before finally having to admit with a government apology. This was one year after the massacre of unarmed civilians in Ballymurphy who were going about their daily lives when they were executed. Oppression must have a different definition in your dictionary than it has in mine. In war you take help from anywhere you can get it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Why shouldn’t people of Irish descent not help the Irish who were vastly outnumbered by the British? I agree with you that the history should not be repeated but we will obviously disagree on the cause.
Like the yanks in 'Nam, the allies in Iraq.. the soldiers seem to have no idea of the history of where are they're going to, or why the people might be aggrieved at them. Sending regular English people to their deaths for nowt. I don't agree with ANY violence by the way
Bandit country is a beautiful part of the country.There was no need for the British to militarize and try to ruin it in the way they did for all those years.They were ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances that you were fighting
Here's a story that almost certainly has no truth in it at all but, I thought it was funny: "Contact, explosion in base of lamp post. One of my patrol injured, number of civilians injured, one civilian dead." Plummy voice over radio: "I don't believe you're medically qualified to pronounce a person dead." "I am when his head's the other side of the road." All quiet. Sorry, squaddie black humour.
I patrolled south Armagh and I was an Irish man wearing the uniform of a British soldier. I never did the IRA take us on face to face as they knew the consequences. We were better trained and we were never afraid to die. But the scum bag provos were afraid to fight us head on. The IRA were terrorist who were brave men hiding behind their balaclavas. Even in today’s environment, if I had a chance- I’d still wipe them out but I’d do it face to face. Adams and good ole Martin sold you all out to the British lol. They accepted British rule, British law and the courts and also the PS NI. THE PROVOS were a laughing stock in the end, as we the prods and the Brit’s- won the struggle. So go back home to your shit country home and understand who now won the war. Lol
They vote counts for being British (Brexit , etc.) , use the Pound , play for GB , etc. They're just Brits that are easier understood than Scots. Oh and this - Collaboration between the IRA and Abwehr during World War II ranged in intensity between 1937-1943 and ended permanently around 1944, when defeat of the Axis forces was seen as probable. Meaning if the IRA didn't sign a surrender agreement post WW2 , are they still combatants? The IRA picked the Nazis , the fucking Nazis. Oh course until they were put under.
@@upthedubs1000 the british Army initially went in to protect the native catholics against loyalist death squads. The catholic communities welcomed us Brits
You really don't understand why people join the Army. Some may have just wanted to join because they had family in the Army or they didn't have much of a place to belong so they try finding it in the Army
@@rfj1156 No i understand the many reasons , most people are poor. And a job and all the weapons , which are attractive things for youths is all it takes. My relatives have been serving for 3 generations now. But my father went to war twice and its no fun for anyone, I grew up hearing all about it. But as a devout Christian I wont be shooting at people unless they invade my State most likely. Sorry if my comment seemed cruel and immature. Its not good when anyone dies. But still the comment was accurate and true. War is Hell.
It's always a 1 sided story, I wonder how they would feel if thousands of IRA occupied England and everyday would stop and investigate everything and anyone including there homes and childrens rooms with guns in there faces, calling them all kinds of racist and anti bastard English slang , killing kids because they were in the wrong place, Ir because they were protestant , or because they lived in a certain part of a random city. I'm sure they would fight back. It's a simple concept leave the country you occupy, to leave and let be. It's so simple it's mind boggling to me. The way they speak of citizens not even IRA just fed up with having there freedom once again taken from them. I mean it's so ridiculous that the world sat by and let this go in for decades with only escalating situations and more death more violence, once again it's mind boggling to me that they try and justify the whole conflict. England is a prod country IRI is mostly Catholic just leave each other alone and eventually the war will end, generations will pass on and both can be at peace. But still to this day protestants fued with Irish Catholics in NI. But the media called a cease fire so the workd thinks it's all over no more " troubles" it's like saying the U.S pulled 90% of it's armed forces out of Afghanistan and now there is no more Taliban or isis and its a problem free country. Religious oppression is extinct and everything is love, kisses and hugs, sorry but it's just not true. 20 years on and basically nothing has been accomplished they are still an occupied country and don't want anyone's help, obviously in not comparing Afghanistan and Iraq ir the middle east to Ireland or England , which is the western world full of peace and democracy. All bs, I'm not blaming the brit soldiers even if they obviously have a deep hatred for the Irish people and hikd grudges just as Irish do for brit soldiers who murdered there sons and daughters. The difference is one was an soldier ordered murder by the brit gov the other was a fed up civilian with a more understandable reason to fight ir defend there country from a foreign army trying to take over and occupy there country. The tactics I don't agree with guns and proper fights sure unless you corner civilians protesting who are unarmed and peacefully demonstrating and gun them down like rabid animals then try and justify it with no justice is just as bad as a car bomb going off killing people. But I have never watched ir even heard if a documentary justifying car bombs and murder on a major network television station. Again it's 1 sided and making the victims look like the oppressors and agitators, there both in the wring but some way way way more than the other. That's m piece on it, thank you good night.
Now Provisional Sinn Fein, who British Intel have very recently stated, are still overseen by the Provisional I.R.A Army Council, are the largest party in Ireland in both jurisdictions and government in waiting in Dublin. Colonial wars always only go one way… Either ballot or gun OUR DAY WILL COME! Up the Provos!
Another keyboard Provo who would sh*t himself if he ever saw a real soldier in front of him. Also SF is now being infiltrated by gender warriors-watch their voters disappear as happened to the SNP in Scotland
they would walk by you as if you did not exist lol so what you want them to stop and have a fuckin meet n greet hahah people got lives to live and frankly dont have time to look and admire the soldiers oppressing their country
Road signs with English names only, no wonder the people were upset and felt they were living under foreign domination, add a military occupation and anger and resistance is inevitable.
Rip to both sides who suffered loss I don't understand why the car didn't reverse more or drive through the crowd before they were swamped, what a scary. Horrible way to go, England should have backed off
They didn't drive through the crowd or shoot into them because the soldiers held some value to human life, unlike the fuckers who tortured and executed them. Republicans try to paint the Army as evil, nasty men who are there to kill the Irish people. If that were so then these two would have flattened the crowd, but they didn't.
@Darren Richardson You're right, it is becoming a better place. That is WHY the troops came off the streets, not the other way round. They ended the military operation when it was no longer needed. More than 300'000 troops rotated through NI during the troubles. A tiny proportion of them did the terrible things you describe. If even 1% killed an innocent civilian that would equal the total number of people killed in the entire conflict. Yet the Army killed a total of less than 300 people in the 35 years of the Troubles. This includes both paramilitaries and civilians. This does not excuse the behaviours you describe, but does highlight that the very great majority who deployed there were just normal guys doing a shitty job, stuck in the middle of a conflict they didn't start and probably don't really understand. This is the nature of soldiering. Most just wanted to survive the tour with their limbs intact.
Now the German army treated any soldier killed by guerilla fighter, with the execution of 100 men and women from the villages. Eventually they relented, and on orders from High Command reduced the number to 50. Strange, tragic, true, despicable however for the Germans, unsurprisingly effective.
@@kelzuya They invented the camps, ask anyone from South Africa. The Germans copied them. They are still looking for 90 year old suspects in German Nursing Homes but have they prosecuted any of the War criminals from the Northern Irish state?
@@josephshields2922 The British state kidnapped and murdered and tortured people all they liked. They also gave money and weapons and free reign to loyalists who massacred catholic people in chippers and shops etc. They will never see justice.
them people on the falls road that killed them 2 soldiers must be proud very proud cowardly bastards,i will hasten to add there are a lot of good people on the falls road that were against the ira and there wicked ways but could not speak out and they fought hitler in the second world war
More respect for the Taliban! took on adversaries man to man! not hiding as civilians and behind women's skirts! no! valued their lives unlike the Taliban!
what do you think they provos were , model soldiers keeping to the geneva convention, honour , what honour did the provos show , when they murdered the 10 protestant workers, what honour did they show when they slit robert mccartneys throat , they took no prisoners and attacked targets that were soft , softer the better like sleeping recruits, bandstands,hospital wards , rememberance services ,a recruit going home alone on a railway station, a recruiting sargent ,the list of dishonour is endless
In the end the IRA were defeated and as an Irishman myself, I was glad to serve Queen and country to defeat the republican movement. The IRA in the end were sold out by their own people who in the end, went into government with the establishment that they said they hated. They accepted British rule, the courts and the policing system. So now who won the war. The answer is the British army, the police and the government - they did put the republicans against the walls as there was no where for them to hide anymore.
caolan Mc Donald what. Another bunch of Mask teenagers terrorist, that hide behind their mum aprons. Let’s get one thing straight, the British army were superior trained and we took the fight to the IRA. Adams and Co, did realise that the war was over and this is why they moved sideways into full time politics. You were sold out by your commanders in the IRA movement and that’s the truth of this matter. Adams now condemn violence against the police and any British establishment now, so why don’t you go and take your little toy army and play elsewhere. Narrow minded republicans will never have a place in today’s world. Every nation and country will stand together against terrorism.
@@Prodrentjet I highly doubt it when Ireland have just asked the EU for a bailout. And even then do you honestly think we Northern Irish will give up our nationality just like.... Willingly? Wake up you fool. Northern Ireland is it's own country and part of the UK
@@Prodrentjet buddy, seems you're a mushroom. Kept in the dark. Do a little research, varadkar is going to screw republic of Ireland so bad. Italy, Spain and now rep Ireland. Leaving the EU is the best thing for the UK. We have half a dozen players waiting in line to trade. Quicker out the better. You stick with the terrorist rhetoric you twit. See where the next bullet and bombing campaign your idiotic Republican terrorists will get them in this day age of 100% anti terrorism. You really do think that joining two completely different countries together will just be as easy as saying to A LOT OF PEOPLE (the majority) "OK, we know you were born and raised in NORTHERN Ireland, you have a culture that is nothing like ours but hey, you are now Irish." How do you think that'll play out. You people need to wake the fk up. How about Ireland join the UK? www.thesun.ie/news/3232162/oliver-callan-budget-2019-meaningless-ireland-another-bailout/
@@caustixsoda8125 "you have a culture that is nothing like ours but hey, you are now Irish." "How about Ireland join the UK?" You literally contradicted yourself in the space of three sentences. Twit.
simple simon should of stayed away simple simon should of stayed in school and simple simon should of stepped more safely now simple simon is sleeping in seven pieces.. I R A .. .
I thought the IRA were freedom fighters.??? The British may be hated but I think the British soldiers were courageous. Walking patrols in very dangerous places...
According to the "Sutton Index of Deaths",[ at the Conflict Archive on the Internet (CAIN), the British military killed 307 people (297 of whom were killed by the British Army, eight by the UDR, one by the RAF and one by the Ulster Special Constabulary) during Operation Banner. 156 (~51%) were civilians 128 (~42%) were members of republican paramilitaries, including: 111 members of the Provisional Irish Republican Army 11 members of the Official Irish Republican Army 5 members of the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) 1 member of the Irish People's Liberation Organisation (IPLO) 14 (~5%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries, including: 7 members of the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) 7 members of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) 6 were members of the British Army 2 were Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) officers 1 was a member of the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR) thats not counting the deaths from the UDR that where armed by the British and where nothing more then the terrorist Wing of the british army. courageous for killing civilians ?
yes using young children as cover at every opportunity. dont take the word of someone who seen that for a couple of decades. there are many many photos from that time, showing plenty of examples you can see for yourself, all over the internet
@@smokeyjoee6802 Me Mothers family are Catholics from the northwest of Scotland... Me Fathers family are Acadian CatholIcs from France.. The English forced the Scots away from their homes..The Acadians were victims of A murderous Ethnic Cleansing where thousands of Acadians died.. So I have no great love for the Brittish.
@@brianpeters7847 hi, i never witnessed a british soldier do anything that stands out as bravery but my previous comment was very true, if u look u will find out for yourself. what aggravates me a lot is the contradiction, hypocrisy, holding people to different moral standards among a few other things. i dont hold any bad feeling toward a person because they are british, or a protestant. where i grew up and still live in north belfast was at the time as hard line republican as anywhere, it could be called the front line as much as anywhere. it still is, the groups that still exist here, oppose the GFA. many many english and protestant people lived among us, during the worst times, and still do. i never heard of them getting hassle because of the political situation or a bad word said behind their backs because of it. no one cared. there are people who lived through it who would still believe it was all about religion, no real understanding of it.
Yawn. Whaboutery is what unionists usually do when they can't think of anything of substance to say. Get back to me when you come up a decent retort, Leroy. Meanwhile you should read an Irish histroy book.
And how am I a hypocrite? Because I'm an American? You don't have a choice where you're born, and I don't agree with most of what the American government has done in the past. Did I hurt your feelings by speaking the truth?
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Willie Frazer?Lose all credibility having him on this.2 young protestants were taken from his pub and given an awful death by Loyalists.His father was a murderer too.Having him associated with the army goes to show how blurred the lines were when locals looked on the ranks of the security forces
Terrible death
His father was a crossdresser as well....Willie was a right cunt ....he won't be missed...except by the animals he calls his family...
Up the reals
@@ryanloughlin154 bunch of idiots
Nothing says a serious British propaganda documentary than having wee Willie Frazer doing a interview.
Caoimhin Mc Cann I think he's dead Willie fraszer
Paul Carolan He is dead, but only last week it was reported he gave British army guns to loyalists murder gangs who in turn murdered innocent people. A wicked evil man who pretended he was a innocent victim of the war.
Neasa Coyne hello from Royal hill Tara county Meath Ireland☺😯 hope all good with you☺
Is the music actually from the programme?! A lot of it seems in very poor taste to an almost comical degree.
Thank you for the up load.
You should look into the history of Brian Boru because although he didn't unify all of Ireland, he did unite most of Ireland at one point. He is considered to be the first "High King of the Irish".
I will give it a watch. It’s sad the British government made us hate each other so much ☹️
You should look into Dermot Macmurrough the deposed King of Leinster as it was he who invited the Normans in in the first place having had his own lands taken from him.
The whole saga started through the greed of Irish Noblemen though you won’t hear many Republicans admit that.
@@brownwarrior6867likewise never hear any orange men talk about king billy blessed by the pope before he went into battle
all my thanks..............x
13:16 I remember this headline the very next day. I was 19. Scotland's Sunday Mail. Exactly 31 years ago.
My cousin was in the Grenadier Guards in the 80s. When he was stationed in Belfast, the provos would stand outside the barracks at night calling his name. "Duffy ya English cunt, you're a dead man in the morning" They knew his parents were Irish, his name and where he grew up. He still laughs about it to this day but he is a bit of a nutter.
so was capt robert nirac, no english boots on irish soil.
lots of people in uk grew up there born to irish parents although if theyre in the british army serving in the 6 counties and coming from that background,theyre nothing more than stupid cunts
I remember watching this on telly but what haunts me to this day was the photo on the front page of a newspaper..Horrible..
Hi Deborah I saw your post just wondering what was on the front newspaper I missed it
@@phillipasalisbury7570 Hi Phillipa
I cannot remember the newspaper im thinking the Sun or Star ....the photo was of one of the corperals laying dying orr dead with a priest giving the last rights...The soldier looked awful and the only clothing on him was his underwear.....God bless the family if they seen this picture of their son..Hunts me to this day..
Rashers did you get him, Sausage did you get him, Egg did you get him, Pudding did you get him.....
Gee no he’s constipated!
I was in same platoon as Gavin Dean in Junior Rifleman’s Company Delhi Platoon 1976 RIP Gavin old friend.
@@jackietreehorn5561 Certainly I do, I’m half Irish myself, but at the time I was 16 from a northern mining town with no knowledge or interest in politics, I just wanted a different life and see the world. I don’t think anyone joined the Army to go to Northern Ireland as most of us would never have understood the politics over there at that time.
@@jackietreehorn5561 I agree wholeheartedly, and respect to you too.
I love how this skewed documentary conveniently neglects to mention that a couple of days previous to the 2 soldiers driving into the middle of a funeral that another funeral was attacked by Michael Stone. People were on edge and this appeared to be another attack, and that's why what happened, happened.
I’m a little on edge why don’t I go kill my neighbor. you never know, he might be a home intruder.
@@MirrorRealityHD Terrible comparison.
It was a tragic chain of events.
Brave man. Back injuries can rob you of everything. Good on you.
Brave men? Shouldn't be invading other countries that's called terrorism
Wow this brings back memories of Besbrook I was also deployed on G40 anyone else went up there looking at the local slags through the cameras. 😂😂 we used to always watch that pub in Crossmaglen and I can’t remember the name of it now. A captain went missing in there years ago working with 14 Int.
Would you be willing to give me more information regarding your time in G40? I'm in the middle of a thesis project at the moment and am trying to learn as much as I can about the towers as not much information on them seems to exist in the public realm.
It was the three steps in Forkhill not cross..
Maybe when mentioning the two soldiers killed at the funeral in Belfast, maybe mention that there was an attack not even a day before at another IRA funeral. The situation was fucked
A lot of this footage is from the Devon and Dorset regiment about 1984 to 85 around Bessbrook mill.
Brave Brave men.
As an ex guardsman and having completed 3 tours over the water all I remember is trying to fight with 1 hand tied behind your back. If they had let us fight properly it would have been over very quickly.
Naive.
Of course it would have you fucking dimwit. a bunch of murdering bastards shooting kids in civil rights marches and colluding with loyalist death squads. The butchers apron.
im so glad my dad tortured and killed your scum army friends
what did you have in mind? carpet bombing, cruise missiles? werent you there to assist and protect the police like that ex brit army member in the comments above says? who admitted doing nothing about an ruc paedophile
Listen you had volunteers willing to lay down their lives by starving themselves. Whether you had two hands three hands you never would have changed the minds of these men. As a wise man once said “the most dangerous man you will come up against is one with nothing to lose”
If I go into my neighbors house and say im taking over your upstairs how would you react
Mike hunt,100% defines what I say to people,but the queens rent boys are given medals for taking over countries and killing natives
I’d ask wtf a Yank was doing in my house, then offer tea and possibly toast. Jam, but not marmite, you know how that is. Or perhaps you don’t. 😉
Leode Siefast The Norman’s invaded us much like British !
@@martincampbell8126
The question I ash myself.why can both sides not live in piece. Both sides are going no where. All this bitterness gets no one any where. Just more bitterness generation after generation.
My father never got over the injuries he suffered in this nasty war!
Tough shit.
I'm sorry your father was injured. I truly am but he shouldn't blame the IRA if he does. He should blame his own government for putting him in a place he didn't belong. I hope he finds peace with it all.
Shouldn't of been in Ireland in frist place.
If you get a signal you keep on going to extract yourself from the IED area. You then ONR and the relevant agencies will come back to do a follow up and clear the area.
Bertie James frazers headstone ends. Peace perfect peace. It should say member of the murderous glenanne gang.
Is that the ethnic cleansing clan in Armagh? No Protestants allowed in Ireland, no?
I feel sorry for the squadies, recruited from poverty, expendable, uncared for.
Dont worry about us we never felt sorry for ourselves.
@@andrewmore8702is that why your mates are crying on camera?
I served in south Armagh in the 90s and early 2000. Fucking mad place. Biggest fear was snipers. I remember a young soldier was hit in the face killed and a nurse was hit by the ricochet at besbrook. Mortars were also a big fear. They had these like home made gas canisters on the back of trucks filled with explosives and launched on the HLS. Golf towers were exposed. Lost more men in Ireland than in Iraq and Afghan. All forgotten about now.
@@jackietreehorn5561 plus the noise of the helicopters. OMG it was 24 hours non stop I shit you not. We used to fly over the border by the way and carry out operations and patrols many of times. That’s a fact. No one will admit it but we did it all the time.
@@jackietreehorn5561 I’m a catholic by the way. My Mums side were from the the south a little place called passage east. She gave me a st christoper to wear to protect me on my travels. RUC we’re like you’re not a taig are ya. What the fuck do you mean, what’s a taig? I’d say. 😂😂
Those gas canister were called barrack busters. I'm sure you remember the sign next to the chapel? "Built by robots, flown by dummies, taken out by 2nd batt barrack busters". When I hear the term 'golf' I always think of the outpost at drummackavall.
@@slartybobfoster2273and the Toyota ae86 they said built by robots nicked by joyriders lol
Served in NI in late 90s. Saw incredible humanity and astonishing hatred and exploitation. The later by the RUC. One particular police sergeant was known as the "fiddler", not for any musical acumen, but for his penchant for sexually assaulting girls as young as 8 while on patrol. We had to stand there and watch. He was reported often, nothing done. Our job was to protect the RUC, not the citizenry.
so when your reports were ignored, was that it? no other ideas? leaking to a journalist is one straight off the top of my head, a couple of seconds thought
@@smokeyjoee6802 Very good question. I have a very good answer. Quick question from me first. Have you any knowledge of the workings of the security forces in NI during the troubles. ie. have you ever read a book, report or such? Can you remember reading the newspapers during this time in relation to NI?
@@ardakolimsky7107 i have read many books, lived through almost all of it and was harressed daily since i was a schoolkid on my paper round until it was over by members of the british army, now whts your excuse
@@smokeyjoee6802 My excuse for what? Claiming I witnessed the RUC sexually assault women?
@@ardakolimsky7107 if you count an 8 year old child as a woman, what other course of action did you take after your reports were ignored, when u seen a pedophile at work?
0:44 Curly Watts did a tour in Northern Ireland?!
I remember doing the first vehicle patrol into Cross in almost 20 year's. The look on their faces was pure shock, when we rolled up. But I jumped out and stood at the corner. And a young woman pushing a pram, passed me. And told me I had to change the battery on my white sifter, as the low battery alarm was sounding. I couldn't believe she would know about our so called secret equipment. Then I used to do lots of gremlins in West Belfast, when I joined C.O.P. Loved my time over there, even though there was bad times as well.
yes and you found a group of children to use as cover like alll the rest.
@@smokeyjoee6802 When did any British soldiers ever use children as cover in Ulster? We went round in military uniform, so you knew who we were. We had bases with big sings outside, so you knew where we were. I only remember one side sneaking round in amongst civilian population. Taking pot shots, then running away into crowds of innocent women and children. And anytime we did see them, their faces were covered with balaclavas. I think you need to re-think your last statement. Or give me evidence of British soldiers using children as cover, from the big brave terrorists?
@@bwkid1 i was one of those children, and was too young to realise when we were told, then i watched while it was continued long before you arrived and after you left yaa stain. it was obviously part of the training. who are you trying to kid
i dont need to give you anything. i was there, i seen it am sure before you came to our country and after you left. it wasnt unusual to witness it regularly it was not isolated events and it was obvious a tactic taught. youre a liar if you are going to try and say you nnever seen it
@@bwkid1 you are very quick to assume i supported any violence, i dont condemn or condone because i know many people who felt it was necessary to take it to that level and know those people well enough to know that they didnt take that decision lightly.
Was in bandit country in Crossmaglen, bad place
Halliday & Frazer were fucking cooks. Lol.
.....1:00 bloody hell it's the bloke form Rainbow. All piss pour comments aside this is yes, probably a one sided recount of the awful awful carry on that was the "troubles" . What it does show for me, is, that as always it's the people caught up in the middle that have their lives ruined. Where as the ruling elite remain unaffected. Look to how the British Armed forces have conducted operations in the middle east in comparison to the United States Armed Forces. At 11:33 onward the two men left, abandoned by the establishment, to be murdered by the "mob". Beware the "powers that be". again thank you for the upload.
South Armagh is great little town I guess you haven't been there in few year's,😃
Except South Armagh isn’t a town
@@Rm-ss5gv Village town all same
The Brits got Thier arse handed to them by the Irish couldn't beat them
I already owned my arse.
The army got sent in to protect the nationalist population go educate yourself FFS.
@@leggie65 got forced to the negotiation table because the brits got thier arsed handed to them
Interesting comment. If the tables were turned it is highly likely it would have been different. Shame it did not go that way really. The IRA would have their arses well and truly kicked.
@@FishingadventureukIt was always going to end as it did when terrorist organisations can’t seize and hold territory. Same outcome with ETA in Spain.
hahaha "you might want to keep your head down today boys"
It was annoying when the choppers set off Clarabel when we were in Borucki Sangar, thinking we were being fire at.
It was annoying for us to trying to sleep at night
RWF were awesome...
Awesome at what, may I ask exactly, trampling on old pensioners, brutalising young boys in army barracks.... Well that crowd are been hammered in Afghanistan at the moment... Guess with all the technology they can't fight against a man with sandels.
@@beinspiredlivelife2242 I knew the lads from Montgomery Barracks, West Berlin - boy can those Welsh lads party.!!
I kinda feel a bit sorry for that solider who got shot in the spine, he doesn't seem like a bad lad but unfortunately while he was roaming the hills around Crossmaglen his spineless government was looking for a way out. His tour of duty like all the British soliders who served up north was for nothing, driving up north now its hard to spot where the border is things have changed so much. A united Ireland is inevitable.
a lot of lads were only here in ireland because they were told to. many even from here had irish friends that became enemies as we see in the video. sadly those who gave the orders will never pay the price. TAL 32
@R D
Im sorry to tell ya this but when the brits signed the agreement in 1985 that let the Irish state have a say in the running of the north that was the start of the end of the north.
Since then its been unity by stealth. Then came brexit, the gift that keeps on giving and the dup support of a hard brexit has pushed things further along.
As much as you may want to believe there will be no return to trouble,last time the brit state armed the loyalist, that wont happen again.
@R D brexit enjoy it next America president biden is a huge Irish national supporter times are getting bad for uk very very bad
I love the way they describe Ireland “Bandit Country” shocking, no these soldiers invaded a sovereign country attacked local Irish people and what the soldier is hurt that locals ignored him on his raiding missions, no one forced these soldiers to join up to the British army, they all thought
They were going to have a great turkey shoot, but realised we had plenty of turf in our sheds
Well said my friend.
@Antonio Bromelini The British Army disgraced themselves in Northern Ireland, murdered school kids, woman and young men. I was there in 1990 and it was shocking. It was clear the British Army was out gunned, out smarted and out numbered but the torture that the British Army did to young men made Hitler and his Getstopo look like amateurs. You need to repent as alot of soldiers were cursed and their lives were marred with alcoholism and abusive domestic situations.
Noel James Healey shut up you nationalist prick...you are still part of Great Britain and will ALWAYS remain so....enjoy.Gid save the Queen. #Loughgall
@@alexwilliamson1486 Alex, what has the Queen ever done for you, she takes 35% off your miserable wages, never buys anything while every single thing you buy is indirectly taxed 23% .... Get your priorities straight, you my friend are a mug!
Do you think for one moment the Queen would look at you? Invite you in for tea and crumpets ? Invite you around for drinks? I think you are the idiot to support spongers.... Then again, I don't bank roll her, I only look after myself., Northern Ireland full of foreigners now, where's the unionists ... Soon it be known as little Poland
@Antonio Bromelini I agree a terrible act of cruelty evil minded people, but the fact remains, British soldiers had no right to be in Ireland, now the mainland full of foreigners, Britannia is over, invaded by foreigners from the four corners of the world ... What you reap you sow
“Stay well away from the I.R.A. And they won’t bother you” 🎶
Unknown2234 Unknown exist?? They’re in ministerial positions while the squaddies fight for measly pensions the tories cut at every opportunity 😁
Unknown2234 Unknown “squaddies are respected”. Yeah of course they are. Fodder for Irish snipers and afghan IED’s then thrown on the scrap heap at 38 unless of course they went to sandhurst and played the toffs game.
SF are abstentionist politicians because they won’t take an oath. Why take an oath for something you spent your life destroying?
51% tick tick 🕰
IRA = I Ran Away, not once has the cowardly c^nts stood and fought us
If they respect you then why did they bomb the British people when they did nothing
@Emerald Boxing Hahaha, my Great uncle did the same to you IRA fuckers...Actually wait, he did worse and I'm happy he did that to your people
It was a long & bitter conflict....
@@jackietreehorn5561 New York City... why?
@@jackietreehorn5561 ??? Is there something you want to say or comment on?
This is New York State today.
if dont want to get killed dont join up
liam caffrey exactly same with the psni
Liam, I joined up and I was never afraid to die. I was an Ulster man that put on a uniform and served as a British soldier in my own backyard. The Provos were afraid to take us on face to face as they knew that we would win. So piss off with your mindless thoughts as to how brave you provos were, they were cowards.
@@trevdoc7048 I'm Catholic and have a huge respect for British Soldiers, I hate their involvement in NI but find it impossible not to respect and appreciate there commitment throughout the world wars, Iraq, Afghan etc... but I don't think you can call The Republicans cowards just because they fought the only way that would give them an advantage; of course they wernt going to fight the Brits 1 on 1, that would be stupid due to the Brits superior weaponry and training, they did what needed to be done and in the end neither side won.
For the record - Rep of Ireland is a football team. Ireland, on the other hand, is a country that lies south of Northern Ireland.
The republic of Ireland is further north than so called northern Ireland
Joe C, Donegal is in the North of lreland and in the Republic of Ireland!
E.T.B. 💥
My uncle was shot dead innocent in this war and my dad was shot twice
Might want to know that after the War of Independence, the British kept their agreements with native tribes that they were allied with. The 13 Colonies, however, didn't.
Lee Samsun, father to tkd olympian Damian?
im from andytown and the thing with the 2 corporals is something that haunts us all. in hindsight they should have had their arms broken and handed over to an ambulance but this happened 3 days after a loyalist attacked an ira funeral killing 3. i remember watching this on tv knowing they would die
michelob81 it’s a pity that these two men were murdered in the way they were. The tv news from all over the world portrayed all catholics in Northern Ireland, that they were animals.
If that what you had said happened, two men would still be alive.
Wars are ugly and when we look back at the troubles, all sides lost people for what!!
A piece of land that we all say is ours but in fact all we will own in the end is a plot that we will fit into when we ourselves die.
Sad but we all need to put the past behind us. Carrying hatred forward will only dent our future and the future of our children.
@@trevdoc7048 i understand you want peace i want it tobut how can we have peace in this made up thing we live in? im embaressed asking england for 90 million every year. england just told us we're not europeans any more
michelob81 the issue that people in Northern Ireland have. They vote based on religion, not on who can deliver the best policy for all the people. I left Northern Ireland because of the politics and that people still want to live in the past.
The province is still 20 yrs behind the rest of the UK. Our transportation system that is there, only delivers to one side of Ireland. The train network is too expensive to use and needs updated. If you live between Derry to Fermanagh, then the chance of you grabbing a train is Zero. Sinn Fein don’t want to take their seats in parliament as the won’t take the oath in London to the queen and country, however Martin Mc Guinness shook hands with the queen. Then we have the DUP who say the won’t negotiate with Sinn Fein and yet they sit and blame them for all the wrong doings in Ulster.
I’m glad I moved out of Northern Ireland as I now have a better life for my family and job prospects are better too.
I hate the way children suffer in Northern Ireland due to the very ignorance , as politicians won’t talk to each other. Sad but it won’t get any better soon. Public services are loosing finances as departments are closed due to the closure of Stormount. Very sad but true.
@@trevdoc7048
100% right
All the killing for what?.
@@trevdoc7048 absolutely ecstatic you fucked off out of Ireland....we never wanted you lot here in the first place....planters will never be welcome on this island.....éire32
The music choice for this documentary was weird as hell.
Why were the soldiers at the funeral?
@@gawtehmc1427
Is it any wonder
I grew up in The North during The Conflict and met hundreds of British soldiers. I can count on one hand the number who were not numbskulls devoid of morality.
Many of them are now homeless or in jail or have substance misuse problems and it's karma.
Maybe so. But don't you think that such issues were common to both 'sides?'
I'm 63 years of age and my first question if my government asked me now (though its most unlikely) to kill a complete stranger, would be, 'WHY?!'
When you're young, easily led and facing a life on the dole; being part of a 'family' such as the British army or the IRA must seem quite attractive......
Lots of ex-paramilitaries have problems with alcohol, prescription drugs, PTSD and other mental illnesses.☹
Karma?
@@FranzBieberkopf that might make sense if squaddies didn't have all those failings at a markedly higher rate than normal people.
Try again.
and king fucking charles doesnt care about them.
@@FranzBieberkopfat least they knew they weren't getting paid and knew the consequences unlike the latter
I am Irish heritage in America.
This insanity must end.
what did you have for dinner
All the high tech look out posts, unlimited budget, tens of thousands of the” best soldiers “ in the world, the latest weaponry, massive bases, helicopters, intelligence agencies, loyalist allies, sas, ruc, udr, etc etc etc, and they still couldn’t beat a handful of farmers!
Dark times
Respect to every single soldier who served in the conflict in operation banner and to those who laid down their lives for Queen and Country we salute you.. LEST WE FORGET 🌺🌺🌺
Rest in piss
Sad man, believe from someone in same regimet just before they were killed they fought like fuck
the irish people and the british people are so much the same its the goverments bloody shame
The funny thing about this comment is the fact that what happened to the Native Americans was also caused by the "British Empire".
In Halifax Nova Scotia they took down a statue of Cromwell because he put a bounty on Mi'maq men
Not just the British empire the Spanish empire French Swedish etc
Swedish Empire? Lol what.
First of all I was sick about what they did to those two soldiers bodies (there's a TH-cam video of most of their deaths). I think one of the soldiers had been in N.I. longer than the other, thought he'd been clever & show the newer soldier the "action" that's why the British soldier being interviewed said, "They should never have been there".. The other thing they did wrong was not standing back-to-back & firing (even into the air), this would have possibly given them some time to get back in their vehicle, "put the pedal to the metal" & get out. I guess all the training goes out of your head when surrounded by people you know want to kill you & are, most likely, armed also. I wish that the British "higher ups" would let the police do what they need to (shoot if they're being shot upon). Surely they do, you might ask? But NO. The police in N.I. have to wait for a series of codes to come down before they can even draw their weapons, never mind shoot. Never join the British Army. If you don't "know someone", you're just cannon fodder. By the way, calling it a "war" is nonsense because in a real war BOTH sides wear a uniform to level the playing field. The police here had a time, after which a new battalion of Brits came in & they, basically "babied them". When I was 4 years old, two soldiers on street patrol said disgusting things to me (it was sexual vulgarity & was explained when I was much older). That was our "norm". As was not picking up fountain pens on school buses, the I.R.A. booby-trapped those! However, giving the U.S.M.R.C.D. A "place to relax" many years later, I realised that the soldiers from England who disregarded our childhood & respect (no spitting or bad language) were basically like new marine recruits, teenagers dressed up to play a very serious game.............
How could a catholic population of 500,000 ordinary Irish catholic civilians achieve a level playing field with a nation of 65 million British with a well equipped modern army. That has to be one of the dumbest statements I have ever read on TH-cam.
@@briankelleher2156 The stupid thing really was that it was Republicans who ASKED for the British army to come to our lovely country NOT Unionists. I did talk about things we had to go through when the Brits flew hundreds of very young & not well-trained soldiers our way!! To them, no matter our beliefs, we were ALL "the enemy" & I have recounted elsewhere that soldiers often thought it amusing to talk to a female child about having sexual assignations (as happened to myself starting aged five & the other girls in my family). Many years later, as I sat around the table with gormless U.S. marine recruits & naval personnel that they were basically all poorly trained, not so bright cannon fodder!! The statement wasn't so stupid either as the Brits worked behind the scenes, trying to pacify the I.R.A.., basically working against the so-called majority. I was blown sky-high by an IRA bomb in my home city of Doire as a 4-yr-old, a large part of my family were from Gweedore (the Gaeltacht area of Donegal), most not speaking a word of English until they were adults but Irish citizens, like us were only, "collateral damage". I think you've forgotten the motto, "Six into thirty-two doesn't go" or even "26+6=1" & also that the Republic of Ireland was 96% Roman Catholic, almost all IRA supporters or operatives, so your numbers are a bit "off". Therefore you can't cry like a baby now, pleading that Catholics in the 6 counties were a downtrodden minority as they had PLENTY of backup from across the border in the form of both willing IRA operatives & safehouses in which to hide, after a murder had been committed or bomb had been detonated, just a couple of minutes car ride (even a walk) across the border . In those "bad old days", any Irish girl, unknowingly taking a dance with a soldier, was swiftly labelled a "Tout" (the slur in those meant that the girl was giving soldiers important intelligence). Her "sentence"?? She'd have her head shaved, was tied to the nearest lampost & boiling hot tar, adorned with chicken feathers, was then poured from her head to her feet & there she was left, to die or have more scorn put upon her by adult men who would beat & spit upon, usually a teen, who was absolutely helpless - just for unknowingly taking an innocent dance with "the enemy". Don't forget, thanks to the "Good Friday Agreement," men who'd murdered their own countrymen (BOTH Republicans & Unionists) were allowed to walk free as though they were altar boys & that just doesn't make sense in any civilised country. You take a life, you must pay the price. Easy! They did it the coward's way by calling what they did, mostly to their own countrymen, a "war" yet they didn't have the courage to don a uniform. The same situation was faced by American servicemen & women in Vietnam - they didn't know if they were facing innocent civilians or armed combatants....As for the British army being well-equipped? As we watched the news from Gaza the other evening, we recalled that it was Yugoslavs who provided Semtex (unlike gelignite, it had no odour & therefore couldn't be sniffed out by dogs) the rest of the arms or the money to provide them were supplied by Libya, HAMAS &, sadly, people whose forebears immigrated to the U.S.A. & believed the lie that they were supporting "freedom fighters" who were trying to win a war against oppressors. We must NEVER go back to those days. Ireland is a beautiful country & must never be destroyed again by ANY of her own people!!
@@CartePostale.why did the republicans ask for the British army? You are from there so you should know. It was because when the catholics started looking for equal rights and an equal vote the unionists saw this as a threat to the union and decided to do a bit of ethnic cleansing. They burned down whole streets and neighbourhoods. Plenty of footage on the internet. The army was welcomed with open arms and cups of tea as a peacekeeping mission. The catholics thought they were going to protect them but it wasn’t long before their true intentions became clear. I am sorry that you had some horrible experiences growing up, no child should have to suffer that. To say it wasn’t a war is wrong. There was two opposing sides shooting and bombing each other . That is the definition of a war. There was a reason republicans didn’t wear uniforms they were not an official state army. The were a part time civilian militia of approximately 2500 ordinary Irish men and women who came together to protect their minority community which was about 500,000 at the time. The British soldiers who had a maximum deployment of 21000, were well armed and trained as they had the resources of a nation behind them. The republicans did not and had to make a lot of their own weapons. To say the catholics were not an oppressed minority is deluded. They had the shitty jobs, education and housing. They didn’t even have an equal vote. The voting system at the time was based on your wealth. The more business and property you had the more votes you got. As the Protestants had most of the wealth they always had most of the votes. It was a system designed to keep the unionists in power and didn’t exist anywhere else in Britain. When the catholics peacefully protested on Bloody Sunday 1972 they were gunned down by the cowardly paras , shot in the back as the dispersed, who then placed guns on the dead bodies, half of whom were under 18, and claimed it was an IRA attack. This was a lie they maintained for nearly 40 years before finally having to admit with a government apology. This was one year after the massacre of unarmed civilians in Ballymurphy who were going about their daily lives when they were executed. Oppression must have a different definition in your dictionary than it has in mine. In war you take help from anywhere you can get it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Why shouldn’t people of Irish descent not help the Irish who were vastly outnumbered by the British? I agree with you that the history should not be repeated but we will obviously disagree on the cause.
Like the yanks in 'Nam, the allies in Iraq.. the soldiers seem to have no idea of the history of where are they're going to, or why the people might be aggrieved at them. Sending regular English people to their deaths for nowt. I don't agree with ANY violence by the way
Please if you werent there then dont comment.
chris mcdermott I wasn’t there but 16 of my family members were either killed or injured
Please if you shouldnt have been there dont comment!
Go home soilder boy go home
Weren't 'there' but I was and am here when they brought the home made goodies to Melbourne, in Australia.
Likely wasn't very news worthy...
Bandit country is a beautiful part of the country.There was no need for the British to militarize and try to ruin it in the way they did for all those years.They were ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances that you were fighting
The murder of those two signallers reminds me of the murder of Lee Rigby.
Fuck them. Shouldn't of been there
Why? Sure he was stabbed
@11:50
BS, the crowd thought it was another Loyalist attack on a funeral.
mst3k4evur good for the rotten fucks
obrbob194 you wouldn’t get out of the bogside alive you fkn rat ..
@obrbob194 fuck up ya mongoloid!!
The army has to play by rules of engagement terrorists dont
Here's a story that almost certainly has no truth in it at all but, I thought it was funny: "Contact, explosion in base of lamp post. One of my patrol injured, number of civilians injured, one civilian dead." Plummy voice over radio: "I don't believe you're medically qualified to pronounce a person dead." "I am when his head's the other side of the road." All quiet. Sorry, squaddie black humour.
Dad joke
I still don't know what even started this conflict but it should have never happened sad
Why is Willie so sad looking? He can't even open his mouth property to speak
Lol
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@@Crazed-oi3bs What's your address?
The brits never ever got a hold of south armagh! It will always be a republican stronghold
I patrolled south Armagh and I was an Irish man wearing the uniform of a British soldier. I never did the IRA take us on face to face as they knew the consequences. We were better trained and we were never afraid to die. But the scum bag provos were afraid to fight us head on. The IRA were terrorist who were brave men hiding behind their balaclavas. Even in today’s environment, if I had a chance- I’d still wipe them out but I’d do it face to face. Adams and good ole Martin sold you all out to the British lol. They accepted British rule, British law and the courts and also the PS NI. THE PROVOS were a laughing stock in the end, as we the prods and the Brit’s- won the struggle. So go back home to your shit country home and understand who now won the war. Lol
Let's face it if the order had ever been given the ira could of been destroyed in one night but us British listened to much to world opinion
@@trevdoc7048 lol
+trevdoc7048 well said chum fuck the Ira scum bastards n. Ireland always be British
@@trevdoc7048 it's called guerilla warfare u fucking dope
They vote counts for being British (Brexit , etc.) , use the Pound , play for GB , etc. They're just Brits that are easier understood than Scots.
Oh and this - Collaboration between the IRA and Abwehr during World War II ranged in intensity between 1937-1943 and ended permanently around 1944, when defeat of the Axis forces was seen as probable.
Meaning if the IRA didn't sign a surrender agreement post WW2 , are they still combatants? The IRA picked the Nazis , the fucking Nazis. Oh course until they were put under.
no one in the north gets a chance to put an x near any party with a chance of power, useless.
Over 100,000 irishmen died in British uniforms in both world wars and thats all you can think off a handfull of idiots shame on you
The IRA were not the democratically elected government of Ireland during the war or ever. What point are you trying to make?
One problem-the IRA Army Council since the 1930s have thought they were (presumably still are) the Government of the Irish Republic@@dickdiver9614
y not just leave
I served in NI but I have to take my hat off to those ulster men who served
@Steve Cj 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Served what? Hell to the natives?
@@upthedubs1000 the british Army initially went in to protect the native catholics against loyalist death squads. The catholic communities welcomed us Brits
@Darren Richardson you lot. Dear me. Have a listen to us & them by pink floyd
@Darren Richardson you really sound like you want peace 🤣. Move on like the rest of the good people of Ireland want to.
Should of stayed home.
You really don't understand why people join the Army. Some may have just wanted to join because they had family in the Army or they didn't have much of a place to belong so they try finding it in the Army
@@rfj1156 No i understand the many reasons , most people are poor. And a job and all the weapons , which are attractive things for youths is all it takes. My relatives have been serving for 3 generations now. But my father went to war twice and its no fun for anyone, I grew up hearing all about it. But as a devout Christian I wont be shooting at people unless they invade my State most likely. Sorry if my comment seemed cruel and immature. Its not good when anyone dies. But still the comment was accurate and true. War is Hell.
It's always a 1 sided story, I wonder how they would feel if thousands of IRA occupied England and everyday would stop and investigate everything and anyone including there homes and childrens rooms with guns in there faces, calling them all kinds of racist and anti bastard English slang , killing kids because they were in the wrong place, Ir because they were protestant , or because they lived in a certain part of a random city. I'm sure they would fight back. It's a simple concept leave the country you occupy, to leave and let be. It's so simple it's mind boggling to me. The way they speak of citizens not even IRA just fed up with having there freedom once again taken from them. I mean it's so ridiculous that the world sat by and let this go in for decades with only escalating situations and more death more violence, once again it's mind boggling to me that they try and justify the whole conflict. England is a prod country IRI is mostly Catholic just leave each other alone and eventually the war will end, generations will pass on and both can be at peace. But still to this day protestants fued with Irish Catholics in NI. But the media called a cease fire so the workd thinks it's all over no more " troubles" it's like saying the U.S pulled 90% of it's armed forces out of Afghanistan and now there is no more Taliban or isis and its a problem free country. Religious oppression is extinct and everything is love, kisses and hugs, sorry but it's just not true. 20 years on and basically nothing has been accomplished they are still an occupied country and don't want anyone's help, obviously in not comparing Afghanistan and Iraq ir the middle east to Ireland or England , which is the western world full of peace and democracy. All bs, I'm not blaming the brit soldiers even if they obviously have a deep hatred for the Irish people and hikd grudges just as Irish do for brit soldiers who murdered there sons and daughters. The difference is one was an soldier ordered murder by the brit gov the other was a fed up civilian with a more understandable reason to fight ir defend there country from a foreign army trying to take over and occupy there country. The tactics I don't agree with guns and proper fights sure unless you corner civilians protesting who are unarmed and peacefully demonstrating and gun them down like rabid animals then try and justify it with no justice is just as bad as a car bomb going off killing people. But I have never watched ir even heard if a documentary justifying car bombs and murder on a major network television station. Again it's 1 sided and making the victims look like the oppressors and agitators, there both in the wring but some way way way more than the other. That's m piece on it, thank you good night.
Of all people to stick on the documentary the living or not so living meme himself Willie "twas the ira and GAA that caused climate change" fraizer
Now Provisional Sinn Fein, who British Intel have very recently stated, are still overseen by the Provisional I.R.A Army Council, are the largest party in Ireland in both jurisdictions and government in waiting in Dublin. Colonial wars always only go one way… Either ballot or gun OUR DAY WILL COME! Up the Provos!
Another keyboard Provo who would sh*t himself if he ever saw a real soldier in front of him.
Also SF is now being infiltrated by gender warriors-watch their voters disappear as happened to the SNP in Scotland
SF are horrible
@@FranzBieberkopfterrible times
they would walk by you as if you did not exist lol so what you want them to stop and have a fuckin meet n greet hahah people got lives to live and frankly dont have time to look and admire the soldiers oppressing their country
One word. Nairac. Lol. 😉😉😉😉
Nairac.Lol. Is more than one word.
Demon.
Road signs with English names only, no wonder the people were upset and felt they were living under foreign domination, add a military occupation and anger and resistance is inevitable.
Rip to both sides who suffered loss
I don't understand why the car didn't reverse more or drive through the crowd before they were swamped, what a scary. Horrible way to go, England should have backed off
They didn't drive through the crowd or shoot into them because the soldiers held some value to human life, unlike the fuckers who tortured and executed them. Republicans try to paint the Army as evil, nasty men who are there to kill the Irish people. If that were so then these two would have flattened the crowd, but they didn't.
@Darren Richardson You're right, it is becoming a better place. That is WHY the troops came off the streets, not the other way round. They ended the military operation when it was no longer needed.
More than 300'000 troops rotated through NI during the troubles. A tiny proportion of them did the terrible things you describe. If even 1% killed an innocent civilian that would equal the total number of people killed in the entire conflict. Yet the Army killed a total of less than 300 people in the 35 years of the Troubles. This includes both paramilitaries and civilians. This does not excuse the behaviours you describe, but does highlight that the very great majority who deployed there were just normal guys doing a shitty job, stuck in the middle of a conflict they didn't start and probably don't really understand. This is the nature of soldiering. Most just wanted to survive the tour with their limbs intact.
Now the German army treated any soldier killed by guerilla fighter, with the execution of 100 men and women from the villages. Eventually they relented, and on orders from High Command reduced the number to 50. Strange, tragic, true, despicable however for the Germans, unsurprisingly effective.
@Straight White British Protestant Or just stay the fuck out of Northern Ireland.
Admiration for the Nazis what a suprise. Why don't you set up some camps too? Horrible cunts
@@kelzuya They invented the camps, ask anyone from South Africa. The Germans copied them. They are still looking for 90 year old suspects in German Nursing Homes but have they prosecuted any of the War criminals from the Northern Irish state?
@@josephshields2922 The British state kidnapped and murdered and tortured people all they liked. They also gave money and weapons and free reign to loyalists who massacred catholic people in chippers and shops etc. They will never see justice.
The reason the UN and Geneva convention was founded
them people on the falls road that killed them 2 soldiers must be proud very proud cowardly bastards,i will hasten to add there are a lot of good people on the falls road that were against the ira and there wicked ways but could not speak out and they fought hitler in the second world war
That's Irish history for you
Its great the brits think the war is over
And everyone is happy.
I know we all still hate them
Give us are country back U prody bastards
More respect for the Taliban! took on adversaries man to man! not hiding as civilians and behind women's skirts! no! valued their lives unlike the Taliban!
You mean like the French Resistance in WW2, the minutemen, or any other guerilla Army that is out numbered outgunned, and defending an occupied land.
Get the brits out now this is lra land 😅😅😅😅😅😅
what do you think they provos were , model soldiers keeping to the geneva convention, honour , what honour did the provos show , when they murdered the 10 protestant workers, what honour did they show when they slit robert mccartneys throat , they took no prisoners and attacked targets that were soft , softer the better like sleeping recruits, bandstands,hospital wards , rememberance services ,a recruit going home alone on a railway station, a recruiting sargent ,the list of dishonour is endless
Like shankill bucthers
As an ex Royal Irish Reg soldier,the IRA were afraid to take us on face to face. we didn’t fear them but they feared us.
trevdoc7048 well at least we didn’t hide in fields and get big riot shields 30 years later
In the end the IRA were defeated and as an Irishman myself, I was glad to serve Queen and country to defeat the republican movement. The IRA in the end were sold out by their own people who in the end, went into government with the establishment that they said they hated. They accepted British rule, the courts and the policing system. So now who won the war. The answer is the British army, the police and the government - they did put the republicans against the walls as there was no where for them to hide anymore.
There is an new ira
caolan Mc Donald what. Another bunch of Mask teenagers terrorist, that hide behind their mum aprons. Let’s get one thing straight, the British army were superior trained and we took the fight to the IRA. Adams and Co, did realise that the war was over and this is why they moved sideways into full time politics. You were sold out by your commanders in the IRA movement and that’s the truth of this matter. Adams now condemn violence against the police and any British establishment now, so why don’t you go and take your little toy army and play elsewhere. Narrow minded republicans will never have a place in today’s world. Every nation and country will stand together against terrorism.
just like how the British army used kids as human shields lol
That's why the British are still in NI, Ireland isn't united and the IRA are now nothing.
You can cry bias and Irish slogans all you want. Northern Ireland is and was part of the UK. Basically these guys were defending their country.
Thank you. Finally someone who's not some retarded terrorist lover
I can respect that, though you do realize reunification is gonna happen eventually.
@@Prodrentjet I highly doubt it when Ireland have just asked the EU for a bailout.
And even then do you honestly think we Northern Irish will give up our nationality just like.... Willingly?
Wake up you fool. Northern Ireland is it's own country and part of the UK
@@Prodrentjet buddy, seems you're a mushroom. Kept in the dark. Do a little research, varadkar is going to screw republic of Ireland so bad.
Italy, Spain and now rep Ireland.
Leaving the EU is the best thing for the UK. We have half a dozen players waiting in line to trade. Quicker out the better. You stick with the terrorist rhetoric you twit. See where the next bullet and bombing campaign your idiotic Republican terrorists will get them in this day age of 100% anti terrorism.
You really do think that joining two completely different countries together will just be as easy as saying to A LOT OF PEOPLE (the majority) "OK, we know you were born and raised in NORTHERN Ireland, you have a culture that is nothing like ours but hey, you are now Irish."
How do you think that'll play out. You people need to wake the fk up. How about Ireland join the UK?
www.thesun.ie/news/3232162/oliver-callan-budget-2019-meaningless-ireland-another-bailout/
@@caustixsoda8125 "you have a culture that is nothing like ours but hey, you are now Irish."
"How about Ireland join the UK?"
You literally contradicted yourself in the space of three sentences. Twit.
UDR to the hilt, true heroes, citizen soldiers
And the Brits caused all this trouble, should have never tried to take our country
The army were there to protect people from religious fighting and discrimination.
@@adamranson457 they had a funny way of showing it in Derry! The catalyst for young men joining the ira
I’m from Armagh and every time u see a prod all republicans will just jump them
What does a prod look like?
simple simon should of stayed away
simple simon should of stayed in school
and simple simon should of stepped more safely
now simple simon is sleeping in seven pieces..
I R A .. .
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homeless dog .. .
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I thought the IRA were freedom fighters.???
The British may be hated but I think the British soldiers were courageous. Walking patrols in very dangerous places...
According to the "Sutton Index of Deaths",[ at the Conflict Archive on the Internet (CAIN), the British military killed 307 people (297 of whom were killed by the British Army, eight by the UDR, one by the RAF and one by the Ulster Special Constabulary) during Operation Banner.
156 (~51%) were civilians
128 (~42%) were members of republican paramilitaries, including:
111 members of the Provisional Irish Republican Army
11 members of the Official Irish Republican Army
5 members of the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA)
1 member of the Irish People's Liberation Organisation (IPLO)
14 (~5%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries, including:
7 members of the Ulster Defence Association (UDA)
7 members of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF)
6 were members of the British Army
2 were Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) officers
1 was a member of the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR)
thats not counting the deaths from the UDR that where armed by the British and where nothing more then the terrorist Wing of the british army.
courageous for killing civilians ?
yes using young children as cover at every opportunity. dont take the word of someone who seen that for a couple of decades. there are many many photos from that time, showing plenty of examples you can see for yourself, all over the internet
@@smokeyjoee6802
Me Mothers family are Catholics from the northwest
of Scotland... Me Fathers family are Acadian CatholIcs from France.. The English forced the Scots away from their homes..The Acadians were victims of A murderous Ethnic Cleansing where thousands of Acadians died.. So I have no great love for the Brittish.
@@brianpeters7847 hi, i never witnessed a british soldier do anything that stands out as bravery but my previous comment was very true, if u look u will find out for yourself. what aggravates me a lot is the contradiction, hypocrisy, holding people to different moral standards among a few other things. i dont hold any bad feeling toward a person because they are british, or a protestant. where i grew up and still live in north belfast was at the time as hard line republican as anywhere, it could be called the front line as much as anywhere. it still is, the groups that still exist here, oppose the GFA. many many english and protestant people lived among us, during the worst times, and still do. i never heard of them getting hassle because of the political situation or a bad word said behind their backs because of it. no one cared. there are people who lived through it who would still believe it was all about religion, no real understanding of it.
Yawn. Whaboutery is what unionists usually do when they can't think of anything of substance to say. Get back to me when you come up a decent retort, Leroy. Meanwhile you should read an Irish histroy book.
Should never be there... As usual another British failure...
And how am I a hypocrite? Because I'm an American? You don't have a choice where you're born, and I don't agree with most of what the American government has done in the past. Did I hurt your feelings by speaking the truth?
How the british occupying army suffered for their theft of Irish territory.
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