Father John Misty's Rant @ WXPN's XPNONENTIAL FEST 2016
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- Father John Misty rants about American idiocracy reaching critical mass with the RNC coronation of Donald Trump.
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Part of this is literally the lyrics to Pure Comedy hahaha
Logan Wendt well he was making the record when this happened, I find it pretty refreshing that he cites his writing here, shows that his concepts are coming from a real place
Logan Wendt BucketPlz National socialism and all of its “brothers” -fascism (AKA trump and the us gov., (Nazism), nationalism, socialism and communism are terrible, they have caused 100 millions of deaths and they prevent the advancement of humanity.It’s time to end government collectivism and push for freedom of the individual. Let society free of these collectivist shackles and let liberal voluntarism shine. Please. The United States is economically and societally fascist. We want voluntarism not these deadly collectivist “isms”.
He should do a rant tour.
Coming to an IHOP near you.
I'd attend.
I like Tillman and enjoy his penchant for meandering diatribes, but the last thing this world needs is another Henry Rollins.
I would buy two tickets.
Lats Feelyat that’s exactly what the world needs
This is way more lucid than I was led to believe.
Well said...This was my exact thought when I just watched it...XPN is one of my favorite things in life but the way they reported it was as if he was blown out on a hallucinogenic and was commenting on his observations so I didn't even give it a go...but then again...maybe it was their brilliant way to actually get people to watch it!...ha Either way, in my opinion, what he had to say was wonderful
2126Eliza isn't that the nature of anything genuinely said on camera nowadays? "Father John Misty FREAKS OUT" ...he had a real moment and decided to let it out, it was beautiful
Pure Comedy
This is the type of rant your 7th grade social studies teacher gives after being fucked with by the students all semester
Don't screw around. You guys screw around too much!
shave
Beard envy?
works for gilette i think
...anyway, here's Wonderwall
lmaoooo
whoever took psychedelics before seeing this particular show sure was in for a rough fucking ride.
So this is basically "Pure Comedy" just in spoken word?
he was making the album when this happened, the lyrics and concept of the album are very much fresh in his mind...I find it to be a very interesting example of an artist in the midst of the creative process...after hearing the album, watching this is a sort of snapshot of his headspace at the time
It's always made me laugh how upset people were online - come to find out a few months later he essentially gave us a preview of a few songs off the new album. This was my first father john misty show and I will never forget it.
@@goodbye41 I think the song was written way earlier when he was living in new orleans, not sure when but I guess it was either things slipping through subconsciously, or he was somewhat teasing what was next to come
the prescience of the republican nomination being what inspired this rant is haunting - knowing that the democrats were in such poor form PR-wise even in 2016, and that as soon as someone like Trump was nominated on the other side of the aisle--knowing that it would be game over.
This isn't embarrassing, this isn't hipster trash. This is the unhinged anger we should all be feeling right now.
***** Nice talking to you too.
My favorite quote from this election cycle: "Never, ever lose your sense of outrage." -Melania Trump
i understand the sentiment in his rant about entertainment being destructive and what not, but i don't see how trump really changes anything or makes things worse, i don't feel there has been a drastic change in the system with trump, it's equally fucked up.
like this rant would still apply if hillary were elected, so i don't see why trump is the cause of it.
lesryglrhfohser
Bombs...
Pollution....
Loss of women's rights...
heightened racism..
It might have been different, but not worse.
It's all about the oil and not the earth. SAD.
Never heard his songs before but this rant really puts into words to the way I've been feeling about the world lately. FJM has made a new fan. Reminds me of Jim Morrison's outbursts but with timely substance. More rockstars like this please.
Couldn't agree more!
Jim Morrison but with substance is a way he's often described
His new album that came out in april, Pure Comedy, is basically this rant and it is excellent.
he's not nearly as wreckless as Jim...that dude was a fumbling mumbling jester...I guess you could make a correlation but John has much more of a world view than Morrison ever had.
infinite jest
samizdat
wild that wallace predicted trump!
Johnny Gentle
I was thinking the same exact thing! Very Wallace of him
Johnny Gentle is a bona fide intellectual compared to Trump.
what you're seeing is a genuine human reaction to something extremely traumatic and surreal...respect to Misty for not filtering a gutteral reaction to appease people's complacency with insanity.
Strange to watch this again after having this rant in album form
JoshuaKaluba yeah, he did this while in the middle of writing the album...pretty interesting to see him dropping lyrics in his rant but kind of refreshing to know that he feels this strong about them
@@goodbye41 Watch it again now. My god.
"When the collective consciousness was so numb, so fucking sated, so gorged on entertainment-"
*wild applause*
He looks so disappointed in the crowd
He sees the irony of the fact that he is yelling about how ridiculous it is that he's talking about the insanity of a revolution where "funny fights funny and it's entertaining as fuck" while also being that 'counter-entertainment' for people, and is frustrated by it. And he leans into it and we get Pure Comedy. It's awesome.
Why are these guys cheering, dude's running 3 levels above them and they don't even know.
people are drunk/stoned/tripping...hard to break through to someone who just shotgunned beers in a parking lot lol
Cause they don’t know what else to do
They're just gaslit by the global elite to feel a certain way, and they think he is rubbing their egos.
The guy is either an politically orthodox hero or the greatest snake oil salesman of our time.
I think the latter.
They're cheering because they like what he's saying, it resonates deep inside of then, but none of them no what else to do. Fjm doesn't know what to do with either. Sure they all could have sat there like monks and detached themselves from the world and renounced entertainment, but that would just make them all a bit more bored and nothing else would have changed
Seeing this in 2020 hits different
He saw it coming, he said it, we laughed, and now we are paying.
The ironic thing is that he's critiquing 90% of the liberal hipsters in that crowd. As a culture we've lost our way. We don't listen to music on the basis of being metaphysically challenged or out of the awe of excellence of the craft. We listen to it because others tell us this is what we ought to listen to. We listen to it because despite uncritical reflection, it evokes a "positive vibe".
As a matter of fact, entertainment infiltrating all musical genres and tracks has the same origin as entertainment infiltrating politics. You can't praise the phenomenon in music and condemn it in politics.
Music is entertainment, it is catharsis.
I think FJM is thinking exactly what you're saying here actually.
Of course, he is not criticizing himself.
He, like the band Weezer, saw an opportunity to become successful based on popular trends, and instead of selfishly chasing his own dream, adapted to popular trends.
If we truly lived in an oppressive theocracy, FJM would be a radical Christian thought leader by our modern standards.
The guy lives to entertain, that is his path in life, but his hobby is clearly observing and reflecting on current events.
I don't think his fans know what they're cheering for.
duckiedale80 Hey man, money is money. Just because what he may do to pay the bills doesn’t make his sentiments any less true.
Fuck "Vibes" I am so sick of music that has a vibe or people listen to vibe too, get some music with some pain and some balls, stop trying to fit your existence into vibes and get involved.
I didn’t feel like the rant was specifically about how we consume music. I felt like he was talking about how the oppressive overstimulation within our society has led to a deep dependence on instant gratification. So much so that we elected a president that treats his speeches like a fucking stand up routine. Trump used his belligerent charisma to resonate with the American public and it sadly worked.
I got online to shop for volleyballs and it led me to this. Not sure why.
Elaborate
Please do it's been 7 years
We live in a hickory smoked oculus rift.
“Do we think that a hilarious tyrant is gonna be met with a hilarious revolution” damn that’s good
"Our brains are too big to fit through the birth canal"
*Canned laughter*
As an entertainer and a public figure, an artist, Mr. Tillman has as much a right as anyone to rant and express his outlook on life while he's on the stage, inserting humor and emotion along the way. That's what people showed up for, that's what music is. Just because he's there to play his music, he is not excluded from having an opinion and expressing it to his audience..
and if any one hasn't noticed, even if he is being a little cliche, he's fucking right. We are in a giant bucket of hickory smoked shit, and people with any kind of public presence should fucking talk about it.
So stop complaing and go get yer Justin bieber tickets and enjoy some more of that mindless garbage intended to keep all the little sheep in a row. It's too bad you couldn't wake up and see that FJM was just trying to be informative, he cares about y'all, wants you to take notice that our pollytics are a little absurd right now.
Good day, And FJM, please try to play a show in Portland or Seattle soon, it would be quite swell.
He's fucking with you...he's fucking with all of you. You're looking waaaay too deep into this. You realize that don't you?
completely agree, I personally love when artists spout off like this and feel compelled to try and communicate things in a real way....he did this while he was deep into making the new album and it's inspiring to see the veil of art lifted and hear an artist basically summarize what he's trying to do.
He's a concerned man singing concerned songs and his speech is reiterating the point, regardless of whether it may seem out of place or uncomfortable. It's just a shame the audience didn't seem to get it... Yeah, whatever, just fucking sign some songs.
Love him.
I love this man's ideology, frankness, directness, song lyrics and outspokenness.
People thought his shit stank until he put the lyrics to a catchy rhythm.
"I expected a less cliche evil" brilliant
This was a breath of fresh air and should happen more often. I love that he spoke his mind on stage and didn’t give a fuck what people that heard him thought about it because fuck it. He’s American, he lives in this country so he has the right to speak his mind about it and I’m glad he did. Hope he does this more often. I read comments that he’s “pretentious” that he’s a “hipster douche” that he’s a “satanist”. So fucking what people. I don’t agree that he’s any of these things except maybe a satanist, Idk....but so fucking what if he is?! If that bothers you then you have bigger problems because being a satanist probably isn’t what you think it. I’m atheist and I support satanist. I’m for freedom of and from religion so what ever floats your boat. As long as you’re not hurting anybody ( but yourself) with the religion you believe in, who gives a fuck?! He’s good people, smart and has something important to say and says it in a very eloquent way and I agree with what he has to say so more power to him. People in this country are blind and easily distracted with what they consider “entertainment” while the world is being pull out from underneath us by the crooks that run our government and we’re to blind and distracted to care to question it. People need to get way more pissed off about it or it’s just going to get worse. The people need to take this country back.
Good for him. The fact people cheered and shit proves his point.
God the irony of the crowd cheering him on. Is he not, in a way, critiquing them and most concert goers?
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT…. Was this where Pure Comedy came from or the other way round…???
I love his music but I dont see the difference in what he's saying here, and the way he's saying it, compared to the hippy movement of the 60's. Were most of those people sold out and are now living like maharajas in Bel Air. And the 'evil' is he talking, the condescendment that the majority of the population are just ignorant dolts who voted for someone who's 'entertaining'. His narrative is out of date, but hey so is most of the left's views and 'convictions'. Sorry just my two cents...
This is straight up out of Shakespeare's Macbeth: Tomorrow and tomorrow, and tomorrow, creeps in the petty pace from day to day until the last syllable of recorded time, and all our yesterdays have lighted fools their way to dusty death, etc. Look it up... the spirit of it is not too dissimilar. Clever boy this Josh Tillman... clever boy.
Haha people who say he's hipster or cartoon like don't even know he's just trolling.. this guy is genius and funny as hell, smart too
@shotonshitteo Says fucking who? YOU?? HAHA ...TF outta here with your nonsense.
Sir this is a Wendy’s.
honestly it’s a bit sad watching this all these years later
Well if this isn't spot on with everything that's going on right now
The quality of this video is really good, tho
Great musical artist. Terrible intellectual. Hate to see it really
“Really” the next FJM single
Waiting on bated breath
Tune your guitar down a little more J. Jk I love you
I guess this is where "Pure Comedy" comes from
It's kinda unsettling how the crowd has no idea how to respond
Love this! He's spot on.
Actually he is square on.
all this and he can't find his pick...
4:52 that sounds condescending af, why do the clap?
Because they don’t understand that he’s actually mocking them.
I fucking love you, but I fucking hate what's happening right now, as well as all the shit that was happening when this was recorded. Thanks for much needed rant..... Now, just trying to be hopeful.....Hugs and kisses❤️
would have liked a shot of whatever "battleship" he was referring to...
if my entertainment is essentially anti-facist
then it helps me refine, transcend, and actually focus.
that said...guys a little too sexy!
This rant just became pure comedy, it even made it into the music video.
This guys is a TOTAL FUCKING GENIUS!!!!!!
genius is a strong word, he's definitely a great artist
Depressing when you stop to think how these words should have been a warning to everyone who now sits in regret of the tragedy, which their vote enabled.
instead, people call him "pseudo intellectual", "embarrassing" and "whiny". we are experiencing the decline of a nation.
escapism is empty
he makes so much sense regardless of what you think of him. you can't deny that. he just says exactly what i can't put into words and i love him man
Our brains are way to big for our mothers hips.
Not even good narrative. Hahaha. That's the line
It’s not even good writing
This is soooooo beautiful and so thankful for his awesome words!
It's much, much better than I expected it to be. He's actually right on every point. Except maybe he souldn't have played after...
What makes me angry is the audience. They don't even understand that he is talking about the idiodracy of the world and how stupid people are and they are too stupid too even acknowledge that he is talking about people like them.
He's full of it though
I was in the crowd. The people that never saw him perform were pretty shocked but the people that know his work were responding positively. I went there just for his set and I could not have been happier with his performance, and I sympathized with his ability to feel what was happening in society and find the bravery to express an improvised reaction to what was becoming our reality (the nomination of Trump as presidential candidate the previous night). He wasn't making fun of the crowd, he was critiquing the culture, everyone, himself included. The cheers are from people refreshed to hear something so real, and the silence was from the people who weren't ready to hear it. The tension was thick. There is a time for art and a time for entertainment. We will never riot and revolt, if we are too busy partying. He had a lot of people scratchin their heads. Liberals don't like being inconvenienced with fighting against the rise of american fascism.
This continues to remain incredibly relevant. And to think all most people could do the rest of the weekend was mock him or bitch and moan.
It's funny how what he's ranting about in the beginning is almost word for word the lyrics to the beginning of 'Pure Comedy'
that would be because he was literally in the middle of writing those songs when this happened....not sure if you're familiar with the writing process but many writers write about shit they have strong feelings about...I find it pretty beautiful that his lyrics resonate with him so much that he can freely drop them in a rant like this...it shows that they come from a real place
Here we are now, entertain us
It all comes full circle
Nirvana?
If I wanted to listen to some washed-up blonde guy groaning over badly-produced guitars I'd listen to
N i c k l e b a c k
Orgspasm What do you listen to? Honest question.
@@All4Tanuki That album was actually produced very well, and despite what you may think, Kurt could sing very well. But WTF does him being blond have to do with shit moron?
@@DoctorSleep_0 Blondes are retards, just like people who think that incoherent moaning is real singing
Homeless Chris Issac. LMFAO brilliant
1:06
Haha he used this in his song Pure Comedy
It's weird to think how much this guy's changed in just a few years time.
...As he proceeds to pick up his guitar and entertain them. Obviously the crowd is just infatuated by his presence, because he is literally criticizing THEM for being so stupid. This guy is way too smart for his own good. I bet he actually hates playing shows.
Nathaniel Chidwick he does. He does it to pay his rent. Who cares? The thing is we're all in this joke, you're watching him do so.
Pro MF Era i know, it cracks me up! Total trip, Josh tillman, you sold your soul to the industry and still somehow came out on top. Legend!
I don't think he hates playing shows, a lot of this is serious, but I doubt all of it.
I went to one of his show in the UK not long ago, he looked like he was enjoying himself a lot
Logan Wendt BucketPlz National socialism and all of its “brothers” -fascism (AKA trump and the us gov., (Nazism), nationalism, socialism and communism are terrible, they have caused 100 millions of deaths and they prevent the advancement of humanity.It’s time to end government collectivism and push for freedom of the individual. Let society free of these collectivist shackles and let liberal voluntarism shine. Please. The United States is economically and societally fascist. We want voluntarism not these deadly collectivist “isms”.
He's too clever, sneaking pure comedy into his antics
This guy is definitely talented and on a rant. One thing I didn't get. A homeless Chris Isaak? I'm out of the loop.
that was entertaining af
Nice camera! FJM it's pretty far out.
Why did you cut it off? Do you not recognize the performance relates to the speech? Where is the performance?
FJM gettin his preacher inspiration out of the way like he wants to, makes sense and its a good sermon.
Makes a lot more sense after hearing the new album :)
thank you for sharing the clip! my god, what have we done? look at the state of the world
you was waiting for 3years bro....we waking up now....
Whatever you think about his rant, that's just your opinion. He did what he wanted to do at that point in time and nothing will change that. All press is good press so anything you write or click bait about him will only further him. So regardless if you're bashing or supporting. You are helping him.
Finally, a rational counter. I'm on his side, not yours, but I still appreciate the coherency of your comment.
Don´t call this dude a hipster, he is way too smart for that. I read somewhere that his father was a Engineer at Hewlet-Packard, so he probably has above average intelligence genes running in his family.
Ruining his family you mean lol it’s a curse be average people
Is he the prophet of idiocracy ?
nah that's jordan peterson lol
I feel like this is essentially the summation of his up coming album
Good Grief is this guy Nicholas Fehn?
Rant about entertainment over, let me entertain you....
Damn you didn't record the new song he started playing at the end?
I thought those songs weren't his?
Wrong. It's a new 15 minute song. Seen it played at Newport Folk
+Herr Keuner Probably online, I'm searching myself. It was the most heartfelt song I may have ever heard. He leaves you hanging on every word. Beautiful song. No chorus, just unwavering truth.
I was in the back and in the moment. He claimed he was about to make rock n roll history on Twitter prior to that performance. He's become my favorite artist in this last week. As honest as you'll find.
+Herr Keuner Sure thing.
Is there rest of the footage available anywhere?
Did he play all of Leaving LA after his talk? That would have been epic to hear in full. I heard he left early, so I don't know.
Rewatching this year's later.....still frustrated as fuck. Love you though. I hope I can see you in Seattle or close to sometime soon ish. Goodnight 😊
Not sure if I just saw a genuine speech or some high-level, Andy Kaufman like performance art.
One love thank you father John misty your songs have made me smile cry laugh and feel love and that truly is something.
love that this vid ends with him starting a like 13 minute song lol
Just a better version of Kanye
Here's the thing... It's really easy to blame someone else (and I'm for everything that was stated but) you've got to look within on this one people. Hands back on the wheel --do you get what I'm saying? We don't have to accept this and we don't have to go the fuck along... A traffic light is just a light. We give it the power to tell us when to stop or go. We give it the power because we were taught to. We give it the power because it makes logical sense. But if that benign light betrays us, if it causes accidents, FUCK THAT LIGHT and all the police in the world can't stop a mob of drivers who know better. STOP GIVING THESE PEOPLE YOUR POWER.
This was entertaining!
Jonathan, what did you film this? Zoom acts like a compact but the picture looks really good with nice bokeh. 👌
0:44
The beginning of the 'well it begins when we are born...' section enters as the beginning to the song 'Pure Comedy' released a year later.
... the revelation of reading the first chapters of The Alphabet Versus the Goddess
And then he decided to sell a bunch of songs to the last GAGA record (read the credits).
while i understand and agree with much of FJM's sentiment, the simple truth is america is the way it is because people want it that way. a whole lot of americans voted for and support donald trump. i don't think people are helpless or trapped or brainwashed by an entertainment complex; they're by and large aware of what they support and support it anyway. america is not a country of exceptional people, if anything we're of below average intellect (and well below average health). this presidential cycle is the other part of america waking to and struggling to come to grips with that. all our voices are worth the same, for better or worse.
Jeff Dunn Logan Wendt BucketPlz National socialism and all of its “brothers” -fascism (AKA trump and the us gov., (Nazism), nationalism, socialism and communism are terrible, they have caused 100 millions of deaths and they prevent the advancement of humanity.It’s time to end government collectivism and push for freedom of the individual. Let society free of these collectivist shackles and let liberal voluntarism shine. Please. The United States is economically and societally fascist. We want voluntarism not these deadly collectivist “isms”.
4:38🤣
I can't tell...is the self depreciation genuine? In this moment is he down on himself? "Entertainment is stupid...at the core....You're welcome". Blaming himself for distracting us from bigger issues with his stupid entertainment?
Mike Molaro he isn't excluding himself actually. Listen to pure comedy and you'll receive your answers if you actually critically think.
I love how he just goes into Leaving LA a 13 min song that is very static xD
I'm SO glad I got to see this live 😅
I'm not sure why I keep coming back to this video