Uncovering RuneScape's Biggest Inside Job
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RuneScape has had a lot of bad updates, this one included. In just one day Jagex managed to make multiple OSRS players in to billionaires. Just one previously near worthless item skyrocketed. Did a Jagex mod leak this update early? Lets find out.
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Why wouldn't they have just converted all existing climbing boots into the version without strength bonus? Lmao, clear inside job.
Jagex employees have always been the ones using the black market to sell GP for cash as well as other RWT, well I'd say 80% of the GP & Items RWT is from trusted jagex employees as well as Mods. The employees don't get paid much and can easily cover there tracks as well as completely fly under the radar since there the ones who try to find the RWT's. I'm not hating an just think about it before replying, it would be so easy as well as they know how to make huge amounts of go fast, an since there not creating GP or items out of thin air it won't affect the in game economy. I bet they make way more cash RWTing over there salary. OneLove
@@lynetterogers1494 Could you please cite your sources/reasons for why you believe the number is "80%". Is this an arbitrary number designed to bolster your own belief or is it based on evidence?
@@4pThorpy Yeah it's a totally made up number I pulled out my ass, Everything I stated was just IMO. That's why I didn't name anyone, but I'd almost guarantee they do and there's nothing to stop them. OneLove
@@lynetterogers1494 Yeah, all this will be IMO as well cause all I know about Jagex comes from TH-camrs.
I reckon people are sometimes greedy; so corruption will show up where it can given enough time.
And I reckon the incentives versus risks for Jagex are enough to make that timescale for corruption pretty short, nah mean?
And I reckon I don't see any clear ways that corruption would get routinely routed out, other than when the public becomes aware of it. That's the biggest assumption I've made, I suppose. But why would Jagex spend money on internal affairs just to hunt and fire their own staff when they RWT?
@@Eurynomos326 To true, to true...
I remember this. It was ridiculous. Suddenly PKer and pure accounts were absolutely loaded because of their stockpiling of supplies.
i remember clearly logging in that day without knowing what happened and people were going berserk. someone bought my only pair for 45k and my 15 year old brain couldn’t figure out why everyone was so mad until i realized merch clans probably made absolute bank. i’m so glad those clans have died out, those were dark times for the GE.
They haven’t died off....
Haven't even got a foot out the door to start leaving
You forgot to mention that nearly every single one of Svew's video's were faked or at least client side bugs, meaning they didn't affect the servers in any meaningful way. I'm not saying he faked gaining access to the pmod forums but his credibility was lost long before he ever posted these things.
Source: the entire bug abuse community
Had NO idea logdotzip used to be such an Influence in RS. Here I was just really enjoying his Minecraft videos. Thanks for teaching me something new bro
This actually makes me mad.
Reminds me of government corruption in real life.
“Just tell them there’s no leak” smh basically “tell them it’s a conspiracy theory” like in irl
@@austiniscoolduh Describing the way to defame Alex Jones as a nut job, in a nutshell.
@@JampsD3 but Alex Jones is actually a nutjob, was not like that before though
And just like that none of the protesting made a difference and we sucked it up
@@fica1137 Have you ever looked into anything he's said or just read someone else telling their opinion on his way of exaggerating actual facts, like "gay frogs".
There was a leak, I was there, and once I realized what was going on I bought a tonne of them. I made about 10m not knowing the full extent of what was happening, except for the fact that they were going to change. There were people all over the G.E. spamming 'buying climbing boots 1k' so tonnes of people knew about it. I only bought about 100 or so, you could still buy them from the NPC. It was very obvious to happen if you played the day before, similar to when they changed mind, chaos and death rune to be useless.
Mod Mark was lying, Tonnes of people knew, there was at least 6 people spamming at the ge at the same time when I was there trying to buy them. If I can figure out what is going on and buy 100 or so, I can just imagine how well they did.
Yeah that's how a friend of mine made a shitload as well. He had a bunch of alts autospamming and made around 800M.
I definitely suspect there was a leak and Jagex tried to cover it up, or some form of inside trading. Messing with the price of anything will always have severe repercussions on the market; the simplest solution would have been to decrease stats and would have been the least damaging. This is the equivalent of burning your house down because heating bills are too high
change climbing boots to 0 bonuses. add a new item worth about 30k with alch value of 10k. combine item to make rock climbing boots. which give same stats as old climbing boots maybe add magic/range debuffs.
climbing boots stay 12gp.
nobody benefits.
climbing boots are not used for anything other than quest
rune/dragon boots are more viable.
rock climbing boots are cheaper/worse than rune but slightly cheaper.
only people that "lose out" are raggers who pk in junk not worth picking up.
We can't all be rich sweats buddy
@@AuRowe if losing 30k climbing boots is too much, then dont wear them. or try playing the game. 30k is fuck all, and a fair price for them.
holy shit i was in one of the merchant clans back in the day!!! I vividly remember the leader telling me to buy as many climbing boots as i could before the next update.
2008-2013 was a rough era for the game
Very! Lots of strange decisions and bad updates
@@ColonelloRS 2010-2011 was some of the most fun I've had on rs tbh, but eoc hurt it pretty badly for me.
I dunno. 2011 for me and what seems like a decent amount of folks was a golden age.
@@ky... To be fair, we were all dumb kids that didn't know any better. I was 13-14 then and had no idea
I was around for this. It made me so pissed back in the day cos back when people didn't know every "best method", it was a decent money maker buying and selling those boots. Then that happened and it pissed everyone off.
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So I played back then pretty much everyday. I remember trying to buy my pures PK sets about 2-3 weeks prior to this update dropping as I usually did every few weeks or so. The only thing that wouldn’t buy for max GE price for weeks? Climbing boots. I remember having to manually get them from the quest NPC. People absolutely knew about this before hand and loaded the boat.
Also one of the largest complaints I remember was that pures risked absolutely nothing much like the voiders in the early days of osrs
last time i was this early pvp was active
Bush used to play osrs
Which Bush?
@@phillipmargrave BUSH DID OSRS
I've heard that rumor as well haha. I'd love to find out more about it one day. :P
When this update dropped, I was so mad that I hadn’t hoarded even 100 of them 😂😂
Bruh I didnt know logdotzip started with rs
Logdotzip still makes videos ?
@@jamiecranton alllllllll minecraft, but yes
Honestly I can understand he would move to Minecraft
I just find Minecraft a bit more enjoyable now, I still like OSRS but I spend more on Minecraft now
Him Mithzan Kkcomics all those guys
@@luckyMrrpProduction yeah mithzan and sky I always knew about, Mithzan has the amulet of zealot or w.e on his character, plus sky is 'skythekidRS' so a bit more obvious
" we had a handful of players , maybe one or two " you can tell that was lie
Damn, Opera GX been spending mad dough on OSRS sponsorships lately. Better than Raid Shadow Legends at least
Thanks Runescape for teaching me the stock market
Ahhhhhh the good old climbing boots. My pure at the time was loaded with them I ended up buying dragon claws & losing them in the pvp. My childhood is haunting me.
I was accidentally the slave who bought alot of the boots for those "insider traders"
My peak of playing rs was around this update. I pked mostly. C boots were around 200-500. I bought them frequently. Around 2-4weeks before the update I noticed climbing boots weren't buying and were selling instantly for 800-1k+. I did the math and I realized I could make around 1m/hour buying them from tenzig and selling to g/e so I immediately figured out the most efficient process of buying climbing boots from Tenzig and started selling around 650 of them on the g/e per hour. After a few hours of the boots continuing to sell for around 1k+ I realized this wasn't just some weird temporary inefficiency in the market and I contacted one of my smarter friends and told him to make a bot to buy climbing boots.
We botted this for weeks. After the 2nd or 3rd day me and my friend always wondered why we were able to still make such good money from it. I always told him that it was the community as a whole finally realizing the value of the boots combined with the supply of them slowly dwindling because they were so cheap nobody would pick them up from pk loots and they would despawn, we also thought we were probably the only ones smart enough to realize the gp/hour that could be made from buying them from tenzig.
On the day of the update me and him realized we were far from the smartest ones in the game. We each made around 200-500m from selling boots for the 2-3weeks before the update, and on the day of the update we each made around another 300m from the boots we had in our bot's banks we hadn't sold yet. It took me an hour of sitting their watching the mayhem in the g/e while being stunned and confused until I realized who the real geniuses were.
I eventually found who most of the big buyers of the boots before the update were and how many they had. Just from the numbers I had proof of i'm sure at least a combined 3trill was added to the banks of less 20 players on the day of that update, and I estimate 40-60trill was added to the game spread over every account. We each could have made $100k+ if we hoarded all the boots our bots collected over that couple weeks and we were both under 18. To this day it feels unreal.
Hehe I remember the rock climbing boots switch that’s waayyyy back in the day
Same here. Im glad to have been able to witness those times in runescape. That was my favorite year in my opinion.
and those merchanting cc's like smoke n mills lol.
I remember when the GE was created, before that Varrock east bank was poppin'
Yes they leaked it.....
I knew it at the time and bought some an hour before the update. Made enough to buy the stuff i wanted, but not that much
But yeah it was leaked. I remember well going back and forth buying those boots before the update
I remember i actually was running c boots a week before the update and i logged on frantically scrolling thru my bank hoping i still had some saved and i had like 600ish. My irl rs bud was so jealous lmaoooo
I'm mainly an RS3 player (though I do enjoy OSRS for some nostalgia here and there), but man, I love this channel. I started playing in 04 and so a lot your videos bring back so many memories, even the less-than-amazing ones. Fortunately, I didn't even know about the climbing boots being decent before the update, so I didn't really have much to complain/rant about, but yeah, Jagex definitely handled this situation poorly lol
I remember back in the day climbing boots were 1k on the ge and cost like nothing to buy from quest guy. But it took alot of dialogue to buy them from him and you could only hold 27 at a time and there was no bank nearby so not many people would pay 1k each they would usually just go there when they needed them and buy some.
Just makes sense something fishy was going on. There are so many perfectly simple options that would have came without error, yet they chose the one they did. Any programmer worth his salt knew it would have a vast impact on gp spawning for particular people who knew about the update prior. Might not have been all of Jagex, but I'm thinking at least 2 bad eggs planned it out. Lol
I love these videos. I remember getting a yo-yo from Santa 🎅 on rs2(now 3) I try not to play too much anymore but I still love watching these vids
svew was a legend on the bug abuse forums back in the day
Climbing boots were still good for pures and it is fair to pay extra for a str bonus thst would normally require 40 def
Ahhh yes, mod Mark, the mod known for his honesty
mark donalds LMAO
NightmareRH... that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Out of curiosity I searched up his channel and it appears he is still around.
When did he mention nightmare?
@@OHHyaKnow Didn't mention, just showed a nightmareRH video. 3:43
@@GhoulBot_ I can’t believe I missed that
never really made sense to increase the price as players who already had the boots would just keep using them, so if they really wanted players to swap to rune boots or dragon boots, the logical thing would have been to nerf them or make the other 2 boot options more appealing (remove their debuffs or such).. The fact the climbing boots were intended to be items for the quest, the obvious solution would be to nerf them to remove their desired stat bonuses or include hard debuffs on them so players only use them and keep for the quest and maybe some equivalent lower level content, but not keep them forever for pvp, etc.
It’s really shameful watching Jagex jump down this same path of lying to players again. I guess losing their entire player base multiple times wasn’t enough of a lesson :(.
3:43 Remember when NighmareRH existed?
This is why I play ironman now.
i remember this as a multy pker i had thousands of pking sets and boots stacked next day i couldn’t believe it
Well if mod mark says it's false you gotta believe him. He's always looking out for the greater good of the community
Hey mudkip how many hours would u say u play in a week. Just osrs.
Mod qp
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I know this video is old but i can 100% confirm the highest amount of boots on an account was well over 1800, the 91k estimate seems about right though. I was a hoarder and had 14k personally, it was the fastest I'd ever made money in my entire life (irl too if converting to 1usd/mill lol) that wasn't just pure drop luck. It changed the way I played the game forever from that point on.
I had a bills worth of those boots in my bank when a friend told me about it, at the time I never thought I’d play again , here i am back in full force lol ,
I think it was a good idea to increase price of climbing boots, similar to how Gmaul price got increased. But why on earth did they make a new item 'Rock climbing boots' and then turn old climbing boots into the new item?? They could just leave everyone with the regular worthless climbing boots and have you pay for the upgrade (similar to the Gmaul update I think). Also, price should be 30k or something like that.
Lol i knew it was climbing boots before the video had started
loved this update, remember logging into my rs3 account in like 2015 when i played osrs just to check it for gold to swap to osrs. I was a pure and hadnt rly logged that acc since 06/07, had quite a of OSRS gold in climbing boots lol.
It raised pure risk, but it griefed everyone else. Because it essentially made it a pure risk item, since if you were not a low def pure you may as well just PK in rune boots, they were cheaper.
They should have been a little cheaper than rune boots. Because then you have a choice, cheaper option or take the def bonus from rune boots.
And now they're nerfing the blowpipe because 'its too cheap for its power'. How hard is it to understand that monetary value shouldn't be taken into account when balancing things? Its the accessibility that should be addressed, in the case of BP gold farmers
I remember seeing a mod post back then that said the highest amount any single account had was around 10k Also should add another reason why climbing boots was very popular back then was because it was a standard boot slot item for mostly all pures. Even my pures were sorta well stocked with them(had around 700 boots) I would grab climbing boots as part of my dailies back then.
every 90s kid said CLIMBING BOOTS! out loud
i miss the early days of Sythe and websites like that. it aint the same anymore Skew was the shit!
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Is it just basically a rebranding of the original Opera browser?
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Wow. Instant inflation.
Hearing the name logdotzip brought me back a good few years, wow!
Why is it that whenever the community has someone speak up for them, Jagex just bans them?
fixing mistakes 6 years later seems to be a thing with jagex :D
Make blowpipe worth 75k
Its just really bizarre logic and that runefest panel just doesn't make it sound better. Like out of all the weirdness about it, its just that high alchemy thing for how much the boots were worth. As a dev had to go in and put in that exact value for how much gold you get out of it.
7:30 my boy did u just say that nearly 10 years later; "this is under investigation"
1:02 is that the Bruce "B is for Brave" Greene on your follow list? and the Law Dog too? have we uncovered evidence that Colonello is a Inside Gaming/Funhaus fan?
Oh big time. Haven’t watched in a few months but I watched Funhaus and IG every day for years.
Just an FYI, climbing boots were more OP and objectively better than rune boots.
Pures can use them, same str bonus as rune boots, and can be used to brid as they have no negative bonuses. They also look much better than rune boots. Rune boots minimal def bonus was meh + required 40 def. for how good they were, it made sense that they be as if not more expensive than rune boots
dont forget when zulrah teleports became rarer.
I was in Foe (the pure clan) from 2006-2010.. Part of the requirements was to keep a LOT of return sets in your tab... So when you die in a fight, you can regear as quickly as possible. I made ~200m off of climbing boots, and even more off of the zulrah teleport update in old-school. Gotta love profiting off of jagex terrible ideas.
welp time to load up a video while i knock out death plateau. Well looks like i found the perfect video for this quest lmao.
''a handful of players'' ''maybe 1 or 2'' ok markdonalds
I know 1800 is wrong, I was in Soul Hunter clan. We where a big deep wildly clan and our leader PowJR had more than that..... hell most of our clan had well over 1000 of them each as we needed so many return stacks for when we cleaned other clans out in big all night fights.
I always thought they where junk and just kept collecting for ages. I didn't realize they gave STR bonus haha. I always spent the 200K on rune boots.
I sucked at pking so I constantly died and overtime when I would get kills I would keep them. I can't remember how many had but it was enough to buy an AGS.
I doubt there was a conspiracy there was a trade restriction during 2010? Unless they waited until 2011 to sell
The trade restriction was long gone during 2010. Stop spreading misinformation clown.
His 18k number was an absolute lie that me and my other pking friends called bs on, each of us alone had like 5k+ of those boots, though the most I knew of personally was guy who had like 15k of them and there was no chance he had the most.
8:55 he's clearly reading from a teleprompter.. I know that doesn't necessarily mean anything, except that, whether it really was a lie or not, no one would really know for sure, as it was a predetermined answer that they were instructed to read.
Great job on the video, especially with those tons of sources you used 😁
Thank you!!
Holy fucckkkk I’m studyin the wrong shit 😂🤣😂🤣 bouta talk to the bankers at G.E 😂🤣😂
one time there was no buy limit on fire battlestaffs and you could buy them for 7k each or so, clearly someone trying to hide his tracks by making it not too obvious.
I remember I was studying for my GCE O levels when this drama happened lol
I remember when this happened. Also, I remember watching logdotzip back in the day, holy nostalgia.
When he said “they were riots all over RuneScape” I imagined everyone fighting with apple pies xD
This should have been rolled back.. I remember when this happened.. rares and high level equipment went up in price like crazy...
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It is idiotic not to increase the price. If you can get higher bonuses with less requirements, then a higher price makes sense. You should have to pay more money than the rune boots because there isn't a 40 Defense requirement! Either 75k and 1 Defense or 40k and 40 defense...sounds like a deal to me...
They were like 500-700 on the g.e. I remember I thru some in for well above the med price and they didn't sell so I left them in over the weekend and when I had come back a few days later they had updated it
the fighter torso update did not last a day KEKW
Crazy that that’s how logdotzip got his stsrt
Ikr, from a RuneScape ranter to a Minecraft player with almost 2 billion views.
This is how Oakdice got famous... he's probably deleted the video but does anyone remember it? I hate that guy.
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The fact he just casually said “there were players who had a unbelievable amounts of boots in their bank and made bank off of it” who casually has that many just out of no where?? Lol smh
Make a video about how petty jagex can be when someone questions them
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It so strange to me that it was recently I found out Svew was a bug abuser. Back in the day I thought he was just a bad ass level 36 or 38 with a firecape that frequented w59. There use to be a community of of regulars on worlds that you got use to seeing, I sorta miss that now that everyone hops to any world to find open resources spots.
If youve ever combo eatn you are a bug abuser
Wasn’t this around the timeframe that MasterCard sent in that shadow ceo? And he only stuck around for 15 months
Yup he was around when this happened
@@ColonelloRS if I hadda guess they had something to do with it. Removed wildy, added trade limits and the GE and he got the boot
i was in flames of fury i have a screenshot of me alching 2.1k climbing boots lol
Climbing boots update was one of the stupid damn ideas ever tbh... they were fine where they were, or at the very least they could've not made all climbing boots currently in-game automatically be converted into rock climbing boots; idk what dumbass thought someone with 200 pairs losing 20k is worse than that same person able to alch that same stack for 4.5mill. PKers bought the shit out of those boots; my friend had a stack of like 500 for his pk sets alone.... any other PKer worth their salt would have the same if it's what they do in the game.
Don’t want to be that guy but if rsgp is $1 per 100m the total value of that 4b cash stack is $409.50
It was $1 per 1 mil :)
I got sick running out of climbing boots so filled every ge slot with 500 of each boots before i took a break from the game returned and this video happened lmao. Only luck ive ever had in my life.
and as a player from this time I always said Climbing boots were far too cheap for what it offered in comparison.
I remember this update. That was so long ago I forgot about it.
I had a friend in class who had a few thousand of these.
Those rats are terrible liars smh
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What armor is Colonello wearing? JW.
They changed the price of climbing boots in rs3 too a while ago. no one cared because it affected very few.
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Agreed! The design is so sleek
one of my friends told me about it before the update but i didn't want to risk my bank on it (30m) so i bought maybe 20 because i was pure anyways so could use them, wish i bought more now :P
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