@@danielstokker200 hardly used with the shifter over here. love my 920 at that price. I don’t have room for a sim anyways and i’m not desk mounting a DD wheel
The copium is real in these comments, if 150 bucks is that big of a deal for a functionally better product that is more reliable, don't pick up a new hobby, pick up a new job. Especially sim racing. This is coming from someone who has had a full suite of products from both brands and bro is right. DD is like the written word for medieval surfs, you just don't get it.
@@rodrigocruz8548depends on what you have right now. If you have a 3nm belt driven wheel and you move to an 8nm direct drive wheel base. It’s a night and day difference. Direct drive as a concept is already offers many advantages over belt driven even when the torque figures are the same. Silent operation, faster response time, more accurate feedback, more subtle vibrations and movements in the wheel and silent operation are a few key points. Increasing the torque figures then gives the added benefit of more immersion, so running over rumble strips or curbs feels very strong or getting into a crash can feel very violent especially at higher torque figures. The high holding torque also helps simulate cars with no power steering in real life and snaps of oversteer feels more violent. Overall, upgrading to direct drive provides a huge increase in immersion and detail and higher torque figures will amplify that feeling. If you pair that with a set of pedals with vibration motors in them such as the v3 Fanatec pedals, it really helps you feel the car and understand if you are locking up, wheel spinning, under steering or oversteering. The vibration pedals are kinda like a cheat code especially😊 in Iracing. But most games don’t support them
You can eliminate a large amount of noise on the logitech (when it is mounted with screws instead of clamps) by clamping a piece of wood to it for an example. For me they were the biggest noise maker on the wheel when I had it mounted with screws on a mount.
I had 2 Logitech they both sounded the same, My friends Logitech sounds the same .. At first I thought it was broken and I returned and bought another one.. same noise..
The one thing I had to get used to going over to dd was that the ffb feels more rubbery due to the magnetic forces. I sometimes still miss my cswv2.5 just for that feel idk how to explain it. But yeah I do love dd wheels the power is insane and I guess you can say the ffb is smoother more refined but again more rubbery even without dampening.
You are right.. i never thought of it before.. the force feedback from Logitech was sharp. On DD, it is smooth and less sharp. Probably more expensive direct drive (higher power wheels) would behave more sharp..
@TechyGondal yesh nobody ever talks about it. They act like dd has the most sharp ffb ever and it doesn't lol. It's alot of feeling and alot of effects but it's a softer feel a more rubber feel. Which tbh some could consider dampening which is why peoppe say to run dd wheels with as little dampening as possible because it isn't needed. It's magnetic pull so that won't feel the same as a hard motor with a belt or gears. It's gonns feel a bit more spongy due to it being force crested by something else like magnets. But yes it's very good, very strong and tons of details. Just as much as the older belt and gear stuff it's just the vibrations and the noises and the sharp feeling would add to that and make yoy seem like it had even more detail then was actually there. People don't like hearing that dd has a softer feel or more rubbery or spongy feel but it absolutely does. It's better because of the constant forces and being smoother and still having Said detail but dd wheels have been way to overhyped for way to long. This coning from a dd user who loves dd. But I will say it mskes it feel very polished and clean which is awesome. The heavier dd wheels imo people day oh its about the detail. Yeah sure but reslly it's about that control always having a constant force telling you where you are at. People say power doesn't matter but after using stronger ones you realize dd was made to be stronger it helps you know where the car is and when you are on the edge of grip. Dd wheels shouldn't go light they should be very tight with heavy center feel. Where you are moving the car not the wheel being loose and moving the car.
That's why smal motor DD is just marketing bullshit. Big motor DDs (~20Nm) doesn't have that rubbery feeling. Advertise wheelbases based on niutometers are the worst thing... People gona say: "I don't need 25Nm" but fidelity, dynamic range, smoothness and response will be a lot better.
@FirssenSimracing I mean all dd wheels have a slogjtly rubbery feeling due to it being magnets the magnetic pull has that but springy no I agree. Like a rubber spring yeah they don't sll feel that way. Instead the 20nm bases utilize the power to snap it back instead of filters to add a spring snap.
@FirssenSimracing I now own 2 wheelbases a 15mm dd+ and I just got the simagic ultimate. It's completely changed my experience with dd. The ultimate is absolutely incredible. Buttery smooth. Super fast and responsive and has such a nice floaty feel. The issue with the dd+ is the internal dampening snd inirtia feel and they somehow still mske it feel springy. The simagic doesn't feel that way. Its so so so so nice. It reminds me of simucube pro2 just like laurence and so many others said. If I had the extra 800 for the wheel I would have gone simucube but wow this simagic is the best feeling base ive used. I went with the 23nm ultimate becausw I knew lower nm dd bases were the issue as you stated. Now that I get to feel powerful dd it makes sense why they started out making them so strong. Lower nm wheelbases def dont feel the same it's not even close. It's clear simucube when they started tested all of that and found the sweet spot was above 15nm. People don't get it it's not even sbout having more power. It's about the torque for the snap, the corrections and everything else. And good wheelbases you can actually reduce the dampening and inirtia on and they don't have it built in when off. So you can get that nice flowy feeling where you can actually feel the ffb and find that limit of grip and even push through it if you want to. Instead of just being stiff with fake power by utilizing extra inirtia which then makes it harder to fins the limit of grip and make corrections imo. I want looser flowy fast strong feeling bases. This is pure perfection!
I had the G29 and my girlgrend would complain about it while she was trying to sleep, the sound is the anti backslash system working, I ended up getting the new Logitech G Pro Wheel and its so much more quiet the girlfriend no longer complains about it 😅
I was thinking about that but it seems like the rattle comes from around the center of the wheel, because of true force, and when I first got mine it rattled way more, just gotta adjust the setting or turn up the volume of the game
@@infanatosuks4880 Oh yeah that plastic sounding rattle is dampened by the rubber base but the motor/wheel rattle won’t ever go away. It’ll just be enough so you don’t annoy the household 😂
Unfair test. That Logitech is broken. It doesn’t sound like that when in good condition. That being said, it can’t compare to the second one. That’s a nice controller
It is not broken. It's just the shit mechanism of plastic gears the G29 uses. Mine is the same. The G29 is horrendously outdated these days compared to DD technology that cost not a terrible amount more. It doesn't matter what rig the G29 is mounted to. It's just noisy as f*ck, and for that one reason alone, I'll be doing the same as this guy and upgrading.
Have the same problem, the mancave is exactly above the living, and an old house (1906) with wooden floors is not ideal. Hoped the DD would sort it. But nope when I brake too late and it rumbles it's a hell of a noise downstairs. During the day it doesn't matter but in the evening it's bloody irritating. Tried decoupling it with all kind of (rubber) mate but no dice.
U should try with the Logitech pro I would be more fair one has two little motor that drive a big gear ⚙️ rather than direct drive like the fanatec or even the Logitech pro
I think if she could hear that from upstairs you should be investing in sound proofing, or even insulation at all, not a 500 weel. Because there's no good reason something that isn't even that loud should be heard from another room.
El logitech g923 tiene el Trueforce, es una caracteristica que emula el suelo por donde esta pasando el vehiculo, por esa razón hace ruido. El fanatec es de mejor calidad pero solo tiene force feedback ...
i like how i see so many videos on the g923 and in all videos, the sound level is different and yes they do put the force feedback to 100%. But i think it is because the wheel in some videos is old and in some videos it is new. But at the end of the day... it will sound like that... at some point.
I think bro messed with his settings, i can barely hear my g920 off road 😂😂😂 y'all need to remember, u play with sound the game is gonna be louder than the wheel
I bought G920 and returned it thinking it was broken.. I bought G923 and it had same noise/cranking.. and I looked up online about the problem.. i figured it is by design.. I never got to play it enough because it was loud. Here in USA, apartments are tiny and walls are hollow.. logitech noise is like hammering on some surface that can be heard and felt in entire apartment and for sure room exactly below.
@@TechyGondal Yeah I Guess its different. I live in central Europe and here we have pretty freaking thick walls. But I still don't think its that loud. Maybe the designs are different for the us? 🤔
This is also setting and mounting dependant for the g923. Im currently using mine on the crew motorfest and it's silent provides good response and force feedback. Fanatec is no doubtedly better though
I made the video because I was so much happy with the quality and feel of this wheel bundle and that too for 400$ Logitech has changed nothing for decades in the G series.. the product is the same and the price is same.. they should atleast cut the price.. In my opinion, Logic G923 shouldn't be more than 200$ new ..
@@TechyGondal Yeah I would rather have the Fanatec although getting some products like those to New Zealand can be very expensive. Region is very important to consider if you're comparing pricing on certain things.
@@MrDerpy-ns6sy I think it’s a power issue but I don’t have the shifter just wheel and pedals and it flashed the light slowly I’ve tried updating it and shi
@@WHEELSSSSSSSSnot true logitec is plug in and play is half the price litterly you wont be needing to setup all that shit you do with a dd wheel also if your on a desk or anything thats a little bit lighter good luck with your dd wheel you can shit on logitec all you want it doesnt give you shit problems you have to look through ever 2 weeks
@@alvaro-elitei don't upgrade my phone every year.. i am on 12 mini for years now.. i upgrade my racing sim.. next 2 years will save up for motion platform.. D-Box.. no oil changes, no tyres burning, no tickets.
If you pull every force feedback slider to 100%, this is what you get. You can’t hear my g29 in the next room. Take your time to set it up correctly and try the slider with 20% instead of 1.000 😁👍🏻
@@eriklemaitre3796 they're a weirdo who thinks they need to gatekeep and shame what people do with their own property and what games you're allowed to use a steering wheel for. They think playing a sim game with a steering wheel has some kind of prestige, and that a still realistic but fun game isn't "worthy," that's how pathetic they are. Just a loser with no life, 3 other no lifers as well who are terminally online. It makes them feel better about their terrible life, since they can constantly judge others online which makes them feel good, so they can ignore their own. Just ignore em, or shit on em like me, it can be pretty fun lmao
The fanatec is objectively better (price-performance wise and spec wise (I've made DIY racing wheels, I think I'd know about this a bit)) but the thing is so damn hard to come by, fanatec really need to up their shipping game.
I currently have a g920 with the shifter and pedals and I’m glad that it came with a clutch pedal but, it’s loud and I wish I could feel more details. So, I’ve done some research and watched some reviews and determined I’m gonna save up for the moza r5 bundle along with an extra pedal and a shifter.
The options in factory wheels and mostly positive reviews about how great fanatec gearbox is, made me pick Fanatec over Moza. For example the wheel you see in this video cost 130$ and requires a universal hub that seperate functional keys from wheel. I paid just 80$ at the time of purchase. So I paid 480$ for this wheel, hub, base and peddles.
just bought the Moza r5 bundle with the shifter, hand brake, clutch, and 2 table mounts. came out to $884 USD ($77 was shipping) it's expensive but a great deal if you already have shifter and hand break or don't need them.
My g920 is silent, no clacky sounds. Also why I disable ffb centering etc and got for a free wheel. No wobbles no tugging. last ages. Damn I'd take mine straight back with that sound
man the difference is ridiculous 😂 i upgraded from a g29 (ps) to a thrustmaster T GT 2 and it’s so quiet, not as good as your wheel but it’s still brilliant 💪💪
When I first bought Logitech, I returned it same day and bought another Logitech.. thinking previous one was broken or something.. having never played sim racing nor having a friend who plays, the noise from Logitech was super strange experience for me at first. Now DD are super affordable.. Logitech should be priced more than 200$ new in my opinion. Competition is cut throat now.
@@No_Budget_No_Problem my video was to tell folks that DD can be had for 399$ gone are the days when DD costed 1000$ I compared DD (399$) with G923 which cost 349$
Im so effing glad i bought a dd to replace my g25, sturdy things but noisey asf. 12 years old now, sounds like her bottom end is gone lol. Im shocked that a new one is just as noisey
My partner's never complained about the rig noise, can't throw her under a bus there. But it's not my CSL DD making the noise. It's yelling/laughing/carrying on over discord. The aliexpress shifters clanking and the springs in my seat that you can hear from a block away 😂 Neighbours have given funny looks...
うちの中古購入したG923もガタガタうっさいから、ジャンク掴まされたのかと思ってたけど、コメント欄見てたら大体これみたいで少し安心した。 Need For Speedではここまでゴリゴリ言わないけど、グランツーリスモ7だとダートやパワーのある4WDは使いたくないぐらいゴリゴリ言う。でもコントローラーの振動設定を抑えていくと音も小さくなるよ。
Actually g29 has also a silent mode if you reduce few thing. Some of them that makes the most noice are road and gravel effects disable them or have them at low setting 5 or 10%.
These kind of videos put me off buying a wheel for a while because logitech was the only decent looking wheel+pedal kit I could afford. Recently got it on sale new for $250, nervous that it was going to be unbearably loud. I don't know what is wrong with other people's wheels but mine is way WAY quieter than this. It is only a bit louder than the fanatec shown in this video.
wich game? wich platform? wich settings? mine doesnt make does clipping sounds. also i can suggest to upgrade the power supply to a 30v one. or 24v but with 5 Amps those motors pull more then the original supply will give them. thats why they often get faulty. and yes the 80$ tablestand compared to the rig is also a big factor.
You didn't mention though that the fanatec wheel Coast as much as the g293 with pedals 😂, and that g293 sounds like you used it as a soccer ball first 😂.
🤣 Fanatec cost the same as Logitech. 399$ The wheel in video is wrapped In Alcantara. It is an upgraded one. So I paid 480$ for my Fanatec setup, including the Pedals.
@@tylerkeenan6884 consider Moza as well, I like their quick release mechanism better than fanatec. Moza also have 400$ bundle .. i bought fanatec at the time because fanatec had more steering wheel options for the bundle.
Sound proof pads? I don't think you're thinking of the right thing 😂. Acoustic tiles prevent sound waves bouncing around the room causing echos. That is for sound clarity not sound proofing. To sound proof a room you would need to re do the walls, ceiling and floors. Including a fire door. Thick heavy fire door. Those acoustic tiles you see on amazon will do fuck all for sound levels or proofing. Though for clarity and recording it works wonders.
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Dude, forgot to mention the $500 rig
Well the rig is not necessary to mount csl dd but it’s not a bad idea to get one if you have spare money.
It's not like the rig reduced all the chatter from the gear driven wheel. Direct drive is just that good and worth it.
@@shychilla except I have both a gear driven and direct drive and it does significantly reduce the noise when you put it on a rig
there like 1k usd (1800 aud)
@@mr.simple5586 I was using my first DD with plastic table clamp. Still 100x quieter than gear driven G29. So what’s your point?
Get yourself a new wife; less expensive
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OMG 😂😂😂
I don’t agree. Trust me
one is direct drive one is geared drive big diff
Thats was my point.. with just 100$ more, get something that offer so much for the money..
@@TechyGondalthats not 100 more i paid 250 for my g923 a csl dd is twice the price at least over here the bullshit is unreal
I got our bundle for 480&.. that too because we opted for an upgrade Alcantara GT Wheel with Universal Hub.
@@danielstokker200 hardly used with the shifter over here. love my 920 at that price. I don’t have room for a sim anyways and i’m not desk mounting a DD wheel
The copium is real in these comments, if 150 bucks is that big of a deal for a functionally better product that is more reliable, don't pick up a new hobby, pick up a new job. Especially sim racing. This is coming from someone who has had a full suite of products from both brands and bro is right. DD is like the written word for medieval surfs, you just don't get it.
Now she can only hear you yelling "VROOOMMM!!"
🤣
I upgraded to Fanatec a few months ago and never going back, DD wheel based and the quality of the hardware is incredible
yeah man DD wheel change the game I got the Logitech G Pro Wheel and honestly couldnt go back to a non DD wheel for my main use.
I currently have a t300 but i would like to know if the different dd base strenghts 5nm 8nm etc, do they actually make any difference?
@@rodrigocruz8548depends on what you have right now. If you have a 3nm belt driven wheel and you move to an 8nm direct drive wheel base. It’s a night and day difference. Direct drive as a concept is already offers many advantages over belt driven even when the torque figures are the same. Silent operation, faster response time, more accurate feedback, more subtle vibrations and movements in the wheel and silent operation are a few key points.
Increasing the torque figures then gives the added benefit of more immersion, so running over rumble strips or curbs feels very strong or getting into a crash can feel very violent especially at higher torque figures. The high holding torque also helps simulate cars with no power steering in real life and snaps of oversteer feels more violent.
Overall, upgrading to direct drive provides a huge increase in immersion and detail and higher torque figures will amplify that feeling.
If you pair that with a set of pedals with vibration motors in them such as the v3 Fanatec pedals, it really helps you feel the car and understand if you are locking up, wheel spinning, under steering or oversteering. The vibration pedals are kinda like a cheat code especially😊 in Iracing. But most games don’t support them
@@rodrigocruz8548 Yes, in terms of details not much, but you can feel it when there is a sudden force
@@Porsche_x alright thanks dude, my t300 has been overheating a little so if anything goes wrong i will buy a dd
You can eliminate a large amount of noise on the logitech (when it is mounted with screws instead of clamps) by clamping a piece of wood to it for an example. For me they were the biggest noise maker on the wheel when I had it mounted with screws on a mount.
I had them screwed on the frame.. on my community tap I have the picture of the Logitech Rig.
Think what you hearing are the belt and gears which the fanatec doesn't have
the noise is coming from plastic gears inside of the wheel base. the direct drive wheel has no gears, its direct drive.
@@HashFatherdirect drive is magnetic like technic 1200s turntables.
@@Djwunmoshen I’m aware, I own one. I was pointing out the cause of the noise, and how mounting it by screw won’t do anything.
They don't in the same class in my country fanatec is 2000 usd and logitech is 600 usd its normal different
Bro what😂 that logitech is 340 and that fanatec is 400
in his country it can be different@@Miskamandariini
@@Miskamandariiniyou’re right, in the united states. things are priced differently in other countries.
Get a different country.
@@Miskamandariini u know import cost?
yo no way he compared an $800 wheelbase plus a $400 wheel to a $400 budget friendly wheel setup😂😂
Yes my friend.. Fanatec wheel and Base and Peddles starts at 399$
The one in video is 479$ bundle because the wheel is upgraded Alcantara wrapped
@@TechyGondal wait so the fanatec setup you’re using starts at $399 for all of it?
@@spencerfry6982 yes. The one you see in video is 479$ the wheel, base and peddles. Because i bought upgrade steering wheel.
@@TechyGondalLOL
@@TechyGondal399 isn't 479..... logitech still gives a bang for the buck and you can't deny it.
bro using the CSL DD in Forza is WILD 😜
I love the clicks. Adds to the fun
honestly it adds to all the sounds your car would be making in real life for me 🤣
@ricecreamzz2861 as a impala driver with a ac hood that clicks all the time I approve this message
you broke something in the first one, i have the same one, 8 months old, and it’s great
Me to i have a g27 12 years old and dosent make all that noise
I had 2 Logitech they both sounded the same, My friends Logitech sounds the same ..
At first I thought it was broken and I returned and bought another one.. same noise..
@@TechyGondalit takes some adustments on the settings side. Plus forza is notoriously shitty for FFB
Do y'all play assetto corsa because that game doesn't have true force
@@jungledrift5084and neither does the g27, no true force there
The one thing I had to get used to going over to dd was that the ffb feels more rubbery due to the magnetic forces. I sometimes still miss my cswv2.5 just for that feel idk how to explain it. But yeah I do love dd wheels the power is insane and I guess you can say the ffb is smoother more refined but again more rubbery even without dampening.
You are right.. i never thought of it before.. the force feedback from Logitech was sharp. On DD, it is smooth and less sharp.
Probably more expensive direct drive (higher power wheels) would behave more sharp..
@TechyGondal yesh nobody ever talks about it. They act like dd has the most sharp ffb ever and it doesn't lol. It's alot of feeling and alot of effects but it's a softer feel a more rubber feel. Which tbh some could consider dampening which is why peoppe say to run dd wheels with as little dampening as possible because it isn't needed. It's magnetic pull so that won't feel the same as a hard motor with a belt or gears. It's gonns feel a bit more spongy due to it being force crested by something else like magnets. But yes it's very good, very strong and tons of details. Just as much as the older belt and gear stuff it's just the vibrations and the noises and the sharp feeling would add to that and make yoy seem like it had even more detail then was actually there.
People don't like hearing that dd has a softer feel or more rubbery or spongy feel but it absolutely does. It's better because of the constant forces and being smoother and still having Said detail but dd wheels have been way to overhyped for way to long. This coning from a dd user who loves dd.
But I will say it mskes it feel very polished and clean which is awesome. The heavier dd wheels imo people day oh its about the detail. Yeah sure but reslly it's about that control always having a constant force telling you where you are at. People say power doesn't matter but after using stronger ones you realize dd was made to be stronger it helps you know where the car is and when you are on the edge of grip. Dd wheels shouldn't go light they should be very tight with heavy center feel. Where you are moving the car not the wheel being loose and moving the car.
That's why smal motor DD is just marketing bullshit. Big motor DDs (~20Nm) doesn't have that rubbery feeling.
Advertise wheelbases based on niutometers are the worst thing... People gona say: "I don't need 25Nm" but fidelity, dynamic range, smoothness and response will be a lot better.
@FirssenSimracing I mean all dd wheels have a slogjtly rubbery feeling due to it being magnets the magnetic pull has that but springy no I agree. Like a rubber spring yeah they don't sll feel that way. Instead the 20nm bases utilize the power to snap it back instead of filters to add a spring snap.
@FirssenSimracing I now own 2 wheelbases a 15mm dd+ and I just got the simagic ultimate. It's completely changed my experience with dd. The ultimate is absolutely incredible. Buttery smooth. Super fast and responsive and has such a nice floaty feel. The issue with the dd+ is the internal dampening snd inirtia feel and they somehow still mske it feel springy. The simagic doesn't feel that way. Its so so so so nice. It reminds me of simucube pro2 just like laurence and so many others said. If I had the extra 800 for the wheel I would have gone simucube but wow this simagic is the best feeling base ive used. I went with the 23nm ultimate becausw I knew lower nm dd bases were the issue as you stated. Now that I get to feel powerful dd it makes sense why they started out making them so strong. Lower nm wheelbases def dont feel the same it's not even close. It's clear simucube when they started tested all of that and found the sweet spot was above 15nm.
People don't get it it's not even sbout having more power. It's about the torque for the snap, the corrections and everything else. And good wheelbases you can actually reduce the dampening and inirtia on and they don't have it built in when off. So you can get that nice flowy feeling where you can actually feel the ffb and find that limit of grip and even push through it if you want to. Instead of just being stiff with fake power by utilizing extra inirtia which then makes it harder to fins the limit of grip and make corrections imo. I want looser flowy fast strong feeling bases. This is pure perfection!
Ahh, and it’s only a price difference of around 1500€. Hell to the no 😂
Oops.. i paid 480$ for this upgraded Alcantara wrapped wheel along with the wheel base and peddles.
r3 exist for a tiny bit more than logitechs wheel.
You can a DD cammus C5 for all of $300 comared the the G920s $200~250
I had the G29 and my girlgrend would complain about it while she was trying to sleep, the sound is the anti backslash system working, I ended up getting the new Logitech G Pro Wheel and its so much more quiet the girlfriend no longer complains about it 😅
Happy girl happy life.
turn wheel dampening down in games that have it in the settings and it won’t be nearly as loud
and u kill all ffb lol
@@FirssenSimracing it’s the price you pay
@@NavalSinatra so... why not buy $10 bunge wheel? :p
@@FirssenSimracing i still have ffb i just didn’t feel like going back and forth about what i experience with my wheel
Even though yours is a bit broken, you can always put a rubber pad between the wheel and bracket and it’ll absorb 70% of the sound.
I was thinking about that but it seems like the rattle comes from around the center of the wheel, because of true force, and when I first got mine it rattled way more, just gotta adjust the setting or turn up the volume of the game
@@infanatosuks4880 Oh yeah that plastic sounding rattle is dampened by the rubber base but the motor/wheel rattle won’t ever go away. It’ll just be enough so you don’t annoy the household 😂
If the sound travels through two floors, your wheel isn't the problem. It's your house.
i saw comments of you 5 times today and yesterday 3 times
Appreciate this video it actually really helps for the price difference everyone should go direct drive unless they buy a used Logitech
Everyone is complaining about the sound of the g920 but it’s really not that bad
are you deaf
@@Jiche no but I have one myself
It’s alright but super over priced.
This is actually really good to know. I was thinking about getting one for VR
Unfair test. That Logitech is broken. It doesn’t sound like that when in good condition. That being said, it can’t compare to the second one. That’s a nice controller
I compared it because they both cost similar..
349$ vs 399$
It sounds like that when trueforce is turned up
It is not broken. It's just the shit mechanism of plastic gears the G29 uses. Mine is the same. The G29 is horrendously outdated these days compared to DD technology that cost not a terrible amount more. It doesn't matter what rig the G29 is mounted to. It's just noisy as f*ck, and for that one reason alone, I'll be doing the same as this guy and upgrading.
Have the same problem, the mancave is exactly above the living, and an old house (1906) with wooden floors is not ideal.
Hoped the DD would sort it. But nope when I brake too late and it rumbles it's a hell of a noise downstairs.
During the day it doesn't matter but in the evening it's bloody irritating.
Tried decoupling it with all kind of (rubber) mate but no dice.
If you close your eyes,
you can hear the difference in a Cheap Walmart Rubix cube Vs. a nicer $20 Speed cube
😂😂😂❤
With cost of Fanatec you probably can build another soundproof basement
U should try with the Logitech pro I would be more fair one has two little motor that drive a big gear ⚙️ rather than direct drive like the fanatec or even the Logitech pro
I compared G923 with CSL DD because both are about the same price. 349$ vs 399$
I think if she could hear that from upstairs you should be investing in sound proofing, or even insulation at all, not a 500 weel. Because there's no good reason something that isn't even that loud should be heard from another room.
El logitech g923 tiene el Trueforce, es una caracteristica que emula el suelo por donde esta pasando el vehiculo, por esa razón hace ruido. El fanatec es de mejor calidad pero solo tiene force feedback ...
la unica razon por la cual el fanatec no suena es por q es direct drive, el true force no tiene nada q ver
i like how i see so many videos on the g923 and in all videos, the sound level is different and yes they do put the force feedback to 100%. But i think it is because the wheel in some videos is old and in some videos it is new. But at the end of the day... it will sound like that... at some point.
I think bro messed with his settings, i can barely hear my g920 off road 😂😂😂 y'all need to remember, u play with sound the game is gonna be louder than the wheel
I bought G920 and returned it thinking it was broken..
I bought G923 and it had same noise/cranking.. and I looked up online about the problem.. i figured it is by design..
I never got to play it enough because it was loud. Here in USA, apartments are tiny and walls are hollow.. logitech noise is like hammering on some surface that can be heard and felt in entire apartment and for sure room exactly below.
@@TechyGondal Yeah I Guess its different. I live in central Europe and here we have pretty freaking thick walls. But I still don't think its that loud. Maybe the designs are different for the us? 🤔
Buy the thrustmaster t248 as your first wheel. It's awesome, and they put a belt around the gears to reduce noise and knock. Now I have the Moza R5.
my wheel...
This is also setting and mounting dependant for the g923.
Im currently using mine on the crew motorfest and it's silent provides good response and force feedback.
Fanatec is no doubtedly better though
I made the video because I was so much happy with the quality and feel of this wheel bundle and that too for 400$
Logitech has changed nothing for decades in the G series.. the product is the same and the price is same.. they should atleast cut the price..
In my opinion, Logic G923 shouldn't be more than 200$ new ..
@@TechyGondal Yeah I would rather have the Fanatec although getting some products like those to New Zealand can be very expensive.
Region is very important to consider if you're comparing pricing on certain things.
I can’t drive at all cuz my g920 don’t work with my series s😂
Sounds like a console issue
@@MrDerpy-ns6sy nope brand new 2 days old
@@MrDerpy-ns6sy I think it’s a power issue but I don’t have the shifter just wheel and pedals and it flashed the light slowly I’ve tried updating it and shi
It may be that you got the PS compatible one.. and not the Xbox one.
@@TechyGondal it has the Xbox logo on it so I don’t think so
Go for Logitech realistic sound & vibration 😅
Something is wrong with ur logitech 😂😂😂😂 mine doesnt make that noise or prob some behind him smahing keys on keyboard
You lucky. Its common😊
That's a normal noise for a g29, especially when off-roading in forza horizon for example like in the video
DD vs belt drive, also logitech have this thing called "Trueforce" where there is essentialy a controller rumble in the wheel so thats the noise
the logitech is gear driven and not belt driven, thats why it sounds like this
But the fanatec is like 500$
1000x better as well
@@WHEELSSSSSSSSnot true logitec is plug in and play is half the price litterly you wont be needing to setup all that shit you do with a dd wheel also if your on a desk or anything thats a little bit lighter good luck with your dd wheel you can shit on logitec all you want it doesnt give you shit problems you have to look through ever 2 weeks
@@danielstokkerevery 2 weeks? Lmao, just say ya didn't know wtf you're doing with your dd wheel
@@danielstokkerEither way with both you both need drivers for it to work. Looks like someone never had a Logitech wheel
Right the Logitech is an entry level gear wheel and the fanatec is an entry level low end direct drive wheel
Me: Having a real car for the money from your setup.... Problem solved 😂
Real car is an option if one can afford to take it to race tracks and stuff.. local road, a few tickets can be enough to buy a rig instead
@@TechyGondaldon’t explain yourself to this moron who can’t afford a decent car. This is cool!
Yep, and each year of mantein is 1000€ and it goes more expensive next time.
@@alvaro-elitei don't upgrade my phone every year.. i am on 12 mini for years now.. i upgrade my racing sim.. next 2 years will save up for motion platform.. D-Box..
no oil changes, no tyres burning, no tickets.
If you pull every force feedback slider to 100%, this is what you get. You can’t hear my g29 in the next room. Take your time to set it up correctly and try the slider with 20% instead of 1.000 😁👍🏻
Bros ussing a steering wheel in forza horizon
And the problem with that is exactly?
Its not worth plus extremely stupid, and funny enough, you get worse performance than using a controllee @@eriklemaitre3796
@@eriklemaitre3796 they're a weirdo who thinks they need to gatekeep and shame what people do with their own property and what games you're allowed to use a steering wheel for. They think playing a sim game with a steering wheel has some kind of prestige, and that a still realistic but fun game isn't "worthy," that's how pathetic they are. Just a loser with no life, 3 other no lifers as well who are terminally online. It makes them feel better about their terrible life, since they can constantly judge others online which makes them feel good, so they can ignore their own. Just ignore em, or shit on em like me, it can be pretty fun lmao
@Extreminator69-that’s not being offended that’s a question.
The fanatec is objectively better (price-performance wise and spec wise (I've made DIY racing wheels, I think I'd know about this a bit)) but the thing is so damn hard to come by, fanatec really need to up their shipping game.
I currently have a g920 with the shifter and pedals and I’m glad that it came with a clutch pedal but, it’s loud and I wish I could feel more details. So, I’ve done some research and watched some reviews and determined I’m gonna save up for the moza r5 bundle along with an extra pedal and a shifter.
The options in factory wheels and mostly positive reviews about how great fanatec gearbox is, made me pick Fanatec over Moza.
For example the wheel you see in this video cost 130$ and requires a universal hub that seperate functional keys from wheel. I paid just 80$ at the time of purchase.
So I paid 480$ for this wheel, hub, base and peddles.
just bought the Moza r5 bundle with the shifter, hand brake, clutch, and 2 table mounts. came out to $884 USD ($77 was shipping)
it's expensive but a great deal if you already have shifter and hand break or don't need them.
that wheel is sooooo nice and i would literally die for it
But if you die, you won't be able to use the wheel 🤔
i got my g29 wheel with shifter and pedals all for $120. literally last month. i’m more than happy with what i got!
@@ricecreamzz2861 can't beat that.
Just the video I needed Def going with fana
Imagine sim racing on a tiny monitor. Gotta use at least a 70" 4k tv imo. Its about realism, so you gotta scale everything up to size
@@kinneyshoes1 I made the video the day I got the wheel bundle..
If you check out my recent videos, you will find me racing on 3 screens around me.
Why I put a car in my bed room
Realism😊
It is the fov on the video that makes it look smaller
@@Planeidklol to a degree maybe, but that’s a small ass monitor no matter the angle
rumbling effects are on, it still isnt gonna be as quiet as the other rig but def quieter
Bro changed his whole setup and thought we wouldnt notice😂
🫡🫡🫡🫡
My g920 is silent, no clacky sounds. Also why I disable ffb centering etc and got for a free wheel. No wobbles no tugging. last ages. Damn I'd take mine straight back with that sound
man the difference is ridiculous 😂 i upgraded from a g29 (ps) to a thrustmaster T GT 2 and it’s so quiet, not as good as your wheel but it’s still brilliant 💪💪
the noisy one sounds more realistic to going that fast offroad
Logitech G29 put me off sim racing a few years ago, so glad i tried again and now have a Fanatec DD Pro.
Drifting a hellcat in mud in the crew motorfest is crazy 💀
Had the G923 for 12 hours then returned it and got the Moza R5. Now the only thing that rattles are the things on my desk.
When I first bought Logitech, I returned it same day and bought another Logitech.. thinking previous one was broken or something.. having never played sim racing nor having a friend who plays, the noise from Logitech was super strange experience for me at first.
Now DD are super affordable.. Logitech should be priced more than 200$ new in my opinion. Competition is cut throat now.
@@TechyGondal G29/ G920 should be $170 while G923 Is $200 while the Thrust master T300 RS Gt should be $250
@@IMX383 totally..
Direct drive vs the g920 is night and day, get the r3 bundle instead of the g920 stleast, better for the r5 depending on your set up
@@No_Budget_No_Problem my video was to tell folks that DD can be had for 399$ gone are the days when DD costed 1000$
I compared DD (399$) with G923 which cost 349$
are we gonna talk about how half the noise coming from the wheel is because of that flimsy cockpit?
The cockpit wasn't flimsy, it looked minimalist but was rock solid. I have a complete picture of it on my community page..
Would have liked to see dirt rally 2.0 or assetto corsa rally mods for a better comparison. But geared drive is worth the money
In my opinion I feel like the screen should either be bigger or closer to
You are right.. i have got it mounted on to the rig now.
Im so effing glad i bought a dd to replace my g25, sturdy things but noisey asf.
12 years old now, sounds like her bottom end is gone lol. Im shocked that a new one is just as noisey
I would consider the noisy one more realistic 😅
What a difference a couple hundred bucks will make compared to a $250 steering wheel
Dude... You can turn down the vibration in the settings and you still get the FFB minus the strong irritating jolts
My partner's never complained about the rig noise, can't throw her under a bus there.
But it's not my CSL DD making the noise. It's yelling/laughing/carrying on over discord. The aliexpress shifters clanking and the springs in my seat that you can hear from a block away 😂 Neighbours have given funny looks...
It’s the vibrations, turn it off there saved you 200 dollars 😂
うちの中古購入したG923もガタガタうっさいから、ジャンク掴まされたのかと思ってたけど、コメント欄見てたら大体これみたいで少し安心した。
Need For Speedではここまでゴリゴリ言わないけど、グランツーリスモ7だとダートやパワーのある4WDは使いたくないぐらいゴリゴリ言う。でもコントローラーの振動設定を抑えていくと音も小さくなるよ。
И теперь разница в цене: здравствуйте
There's a bit of a cost difference between the two setups 😅
The Logitech wheel has a gear inside that why it make sounds
Actually g29 has also a silent mode if you reduce few thing. Some of them that makes the most noice are road and gravel effects disable them or have them at low setting 5 or 10%.
These kind of videos put me off buying a wheel for a while because logitech was the only decent looking wheel+pedal kit I could afford. Recently got it on sale new for $250, nervous that it was going to be unbearably loud. I don't know what is wrong with other people's wheels but mine is way WAY quieter than this. It is only a bit louder than the fanatec shown in this video.
Do you knows that Fanatec is more expensive?
Yeah it is.. slightly expensive.
But if you want the gear box with it, then it is double the price.
Difference between direct drive (fanatec) and not
the magic of DD Wheels
Fun fact, a direct drive wheel has the power to break your wrist. Have a nice day =D
forgot to mention the additional 1600 for the rig and wheel/wheel base
Its common noise.
Logitech shouldn't release this Fault product. I put some grease inside Mine. Much better
I find the clank soothing.
Perfect troll laugh as he runs away
Best excuse ive seen to upgrade his rig 😂
*you can play as long as your arm doesnt break because of the dd force
Good enough for trucks.
The first one was obviously more realistic
You should do the logitech pro vs that fanatec
Logitech Pro is about 1000$
Fanatec CSL DD is 400$
2 years from now that fanatec is gonna be a broken rma mess. Logitech will be going strong.
The real move is to buy neither. Both are toy tier gear.
@@CharlieVictor212 Moza is strong option .. but for now Famatec is best bank for the bucks
If you turn the G29 settings up all the way then yeah it's going to do that
Nah bro this is actually crazy. I haven't used my g29 in a fat minute for this exact reason
wich game? wich platform? wich settings? mine doesnt make does clipping sounds. also i can suggest to upgrade the power supply to a 30v one. or 24v but with 5 Amps those motors pull more then the original supply will give them. thats why they often get faulty. and yes the 80$ tablestand compared to the rig is also a big factor.
In Brazil G920: R$ 1600,00
CSL DD: R$ 5000,00 used, new its like R$ 10.000,00 because of tax
You didn't mention though that the fanatec wheel Coast as much as the g293 with pedals 😂, and that g293 sounds like you used it as a soccer ball first 😂.
🤣
Fanatec cost the same as Logitech. 399$
The wheel in video is wrapped In Alcantara. It is an upgraded one. So I paid 480$ for my Fanatec setup, including the Pedals.
Try thrustmaster t500rs and wheel stand Pro. You don't need to use those bad ones that attach to the table anymore
so glad i saw this before buying $900 worth of logitechs g923 sim shit. definitely going for the fanatec
@@tylerkeenan6884 consider Moza as well, I like their quick release mechanism better than fanatec. Moza also have 400$ bundle ..
i bought fanatec at the time because fanatec had more steering wheel options for the bundle.
its like comparing a bus to a racecar
Fist one gives you realistic feeling
The second one is 10x more realistic
Well the 923 sounds like what it's gonna really sound like if you drive your car in those conditions. It's surely not gonna be quite. LMFAO
Do you think the Thrustmaster T248 is a good option if I'm not really into sim racing? (I mostly just play ets)
@@Gloomzy363 i like the whhel but not the peddles that come with it.
Go for something off of ebay used as a beginner.. it will save you quite a bit..
My thrustmaster works just fine. Your logitech though sounds loose asf
First one seems more realistic😂
BRO changes his whole room so get sound proof pads to
Sound proof pads? I don't think you're thinking of the right thing 😂. Acoustic tiles prevent sound waves bouncing around the room causing echos. That is for sound clarity not sound proofing. To sound proof a room you would need to re do the walls, ceiling and floors. Including a fire door. Thick heavy fire door. Those acoustic tiles you see on amazon will do fuck all for sound levels or proofing. Though for clarity and recording it works wonders.
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