Swapping to Lithium? WATCH THIS FIRST!

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  • In this video we discuss the differences between traditional Lead Acid batteries and Lithium batteries. Lithium batteries are often marketed as "drop-In" replacements in the RV world but there are some things to consider before taking the plunge! Watch the video and decide if it's right for your particular situation before you invest your money!

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  • @rdharris802
    @rdharris802 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Best video I've seen so far about converting a RV, including class c's, to lithium batteries. Very comprehensive and nicely explained. Thanks.

  • @gtibbot
    @gtibbot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    What a great explanation, another vote for the best beginners video on this subject!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you enjoyed it! Let us know if there's anything else you'd like to see and we will make it happen!

  • @Tailss1
    @Tailss1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As an RV owner using it off grid everything this man said about switching to Lithium is correct.

  • @xxlxpman
    @xxlxpman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great tips that I've never seen anywhere else. Thank you!!

  • @user-uz7is6nn9v
    @user-uz7is6nn9v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great information! You did a fantastic job with explaining the differences!

  • @loustgeorge6231
    @loustgeorge6231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for that, finally understand fully why a shunt is required plus the different voltages👍

  • @Emerald_Acre_OH
    @Emerald_Acre_OH 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video!!! I am putting together a system for my home and you have good, logical reasons for your recommendations thank you for putting in the time and effort to share your knowledge!

  • @GoldenK9Campers
    @GoldenK9Campers หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great job. Love how you went thru the whole video with basically no cuts. Just a great conversation. Also, the content was fabulous. Very clear and concise, and easy to understand. So much more than just doing a drop in replacement !!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We appreciate that feedback more than you know! Glad you got some good info from it!

  • @andrewrees5426
    @andrewrees5426 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this, an excellent to the point video. I’m just about to covert to Lithium and did not know about the charge voltage difference. Looks like you have saved me a ton of grief, thanks again.

  • @garybrewer2352
    @garybrewer2352 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the best explanation I've ever seen on the proper process to convert to lithium batteries!
    Thank you.

  • @longhuynh5249
    @longhuynh5249 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good points and very helpful for many people out there.

  • @Hebrews12v2
    @Hebrews12v2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Outstanding video! I watch a lot of these type videos and this one is the best of the best I have seen. You have done Will Prowse proud with your tutorial here!
    I just subbed and "rang" the bell. Looking forward to more of this content!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! We will be working hard to get new content up that hopefully helps people with their systems.

  • @dirtyburd71
    @dirtyburd71 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great information even for new, first time installs, picking out the correct components that will work together.

  • @stevekomorous3864
    @stevekomorous3864 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is OUTSTANDING!! Thank you for making the complicated simple. You articulated all of it so well. Again, thank you.

  • @robmclaughlin420
    @robmclaughlin420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great things in this video that I would not have known. Thanks for covering these things. New sub

  • @NOName-co2qh
    @NOName-co2qh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I had been told some of this by my converter company's tech department before I added another battery to my fifth wheel. Your explanation was clear, to the point and overall was explained in a way that any RV or boat owner should understand. Thanks!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the feedback! We've compiled a great deal of knowledge over the last 5 years on this adventure so we're looking to share that info and empower people to explore the world unplugged!

  • @rossdeanda2655
    @rossdeanda2655 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This just answered a lot of questions. Direct and easy explanation. Thank you!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're welcome! Thanks for the support!

  • @bgunckel
    @bgunckel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was far and away the best explanation of doing the conversion, as well as explanations of the capacities and state of charge differences. Thank you so much!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're very welcome, glad you got some value from it!

  • @JDs_memories
    @JDs_memories 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video! That's a good overview of all the aspects to consider before switching to lithium batteries for my travel trailer. That's a project for advised amateurs!

  • @davidjones8680
    @davidjones8680 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, that is great stuff that I didn't know before. I've been looking into going to lithium in my RV and have spoken to several people about it, but not one of them have told or explained to me what you just have. None have recommended fitting a shunt either.
    Many thanks, you just earned yourself a new subscriber.
    David in the UK.

  • @chrisneuhaus7188
    @chrisneuhaus7188 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Very nice! You made it very easy to understand the sub components that are key to a proper LA to LI swap out on the house batts. Good presentation, easy for the even the novice to follow along.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the feedback! We try to keep it as simple as possible. 😃

  • @Heiserton
    @Heiserton 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The other thing people don’t consider is where the battery is stored. LiPo and LiFePo4 are excellent batteries, but need to be kept away from extreme temperatures (hot and cold). Some have built in BMS systems with battery heaters to help in the cold, and also shutdown the battery to avoid a thermal runaway scenario, but generally an engine bay is a bad area for them.
    Also, a lot of vehicles are now equipped with “smart” alternators that will easily output 14.xx volts depending on the load requirement.

  • @davidmartin3255
    @davidmartin3255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you! This really helped me understand this process and the differences between them

  • @keithh9781
    @keithh9781 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent vid. Great explanation, troubleshooting and recommendations. Thanks

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome! Glad it helped.

  • @MrFrogman54
    @MrFrogman54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Happy to find these guys on TH-cam, We had them install a 600 watt system last year and they did outstanding work for me down here in Ajo! Great video guys!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you sir! Glad you found us! Haha

  • @garyp9906
    @garyp9906 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm glad I watched your video. I'm getting ready for a cross country trip in our RV. Both of my current lead acid batteries are junk. I was going to replace with Lithium. But after watching your video, I'll stick with the lead acid one's for now. You saved me a lot of grief. Thank you for posting your video!! You explained it very well for the average person to understand.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It definitely takes a little planning and understanding to do it correctly so I'm glad you found the info beforehand! Thank you for your feedback, safe travels!

  • @onefastcyclist
    @onefastcyclist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A very concise explanation - thanks!

  • @cpwatching5647
    @cpwatching5647 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Well done. You covered these issues perfectly. One item I would add to this conversation. I have an off grid cabin in the very cold at times north country and it runs on solar. The only reason I did not go with Lithium is because the low temperature charging limitations of a lithium battery. Below 30F they do not do well. Take care.

    • @xxfullsailxx
      @xxfullsailxx 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are many ways to deal with charging lithium in cold temperatures... a 12 volt lap blanket being the simplest/cheapest.

  • @KensGarage1
    @KensGarage1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You did a great job explaining this. I will stick to the dual 6V battery conversion I did on my current rig. Next unit will be Li. Thanks

  • @CharlesSmith-mf2qe
    @CharlesSmith-mf2qe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did not know about the voltage difference. Yhanks

  • @pdx650
    @pdx650 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    RV Solar Concepts, Thank you for making and posting this video. It is very helpful.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome! Glad you got something from it!

  • @purdyquibb
    @purdyquibb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was Friggin' awesome... very informative. I will add, one cool thing that lithuim is going to is having an onboard Bluetooth system telling you all the pertanant information eliminating the Shunt. I literally just got a new battery with this option so I have no idea the accuracy of it, bit it is extremely cool and may eliminate at least one item? Also, One thing that wasnt touched on is extreme weather, be it cold or hot. These things do have a window they must stay within or they will fail. Some manufacturers are adding shutoff options to the bms system which is highly recommended. Just thought I'd add that.... Thanks guys!

  • @CreativeCustomDesigns
    @CreativeCustomDesigns 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sure wish you were closer......We LOVE boondocking, and have a pretty good setup right now with lead acid batteries . We built it on a strict budget and bought items when they were on sale ( some items might not be the best quality), but it's working.. We would like to go Lithium, but the cost is kinda frightning. We have 4 - 100W solar panels that work GREAT for us. Maybe when it's time to replace the flooded batteries, we should see what the cost to switch will cost us.
    THANKS for this video.

  • @user-fd2bi8ri4h
    @user-fd2bi8ri4h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video! Very clear and well communicated.

  • @deechap69
    @deechap69 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you so very much!! I have been researching for months on what I need to do to upgrade to lithium and will eventually get to solar. You did a perfect job here, straight to the point and not too long, and enough details so I know what to buy. This is the best video I have watched, and I greatly appreciate what you have done here.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the feedback!

  • @matthewknight5641
    @matthewknight5641 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I replaced the converter in my holiday to the powermax 100 amp and could t be happier with it . Its adjustable volts and amps make it great for the 12 volt side for lithium and being a little higher voltage makes all my other 12 volt stuff run way better. Ive also got a fairly large 24 volt solar setup but yeah changing that converter is kinda important to say the least

  • @jcastell1
    @jcastell1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man this was EYE OPENING....my RV shop is really selling me on going Lithium in my class A, which I really want to do. But I am going to grill them on all this info before I do. I absolutely will put in these safe guards.....Thank you!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep hold them accountable! Dealers will just pop your old batteries out, put lithium in and it will perform like dog shit because they don't change the settings or the equipment to properly charge them. Then you'll be chasing non-existent problems and just assuming lithium is junk which is not the case, you're just only using half or less of your possible storage because they aren't getting fully charged.

    • @jcastell1
      @jcastell1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rvsolarconcepts Yes sir, thanks again!

  • @JJ-Journeys
    @JJ-Journeys 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Excellent video! Installed 600 watts of solar on my RV last year, changed my batteries from 2 lead acid to "3-100amp Diablo Lithium Batteries". I Installed all Victron Components from the Multiplus ll to the Shunt, Charge Controller, Cerbo and Touch 50 monitor and love the setup. The Diablo batteries are a game changer not only can I check the state of charge from the shunt but each battery has a bms and is bluetooth so I can check each individual battery. Justin from RV Solar Concepts was a huge help with a wealth of knowledge. If anyone is looking to install solar on their RV I highly recommend RV Solar Concepts. These guys know what they're talking about and their workmanship is 1st class.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good to see a local customer on the our new TH-cam page!! Glad to hear you are loving the system and we appreciate the kind words as well!

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Victron has been the market leader in control gear for quite a while but which is the "best" _battery_ changes frequently. Anything sold as "the best" by a reputable supplier will remain good for the 10+ years lifetime of your battery but the next model won't necessarily be as good as another brand so leave that choice to your supplier on the day. Most brands supply BMS & Bluetooth nowadays.

  • @robertskolozdra6904
    @robertskolozdra6904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the best video that explains all of this. I have heard to be careful of these things and this actually explains it.

  • @hansschernthaner8360
    @hansschernthaner8360 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know our stuff !! Very informative !

  • @dwcross
    @dwcross 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent video sir. Keep making videos, you are a good instructor.

  • @davidthomas1694
    @davidthomas1694 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for a great video and explanation!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the support! Let us know if there's any other topics you want us to inform on!

  • @dangilbertville2577
    @dangilbertville2577 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow! Fantastic, and needed, information.

  • @lanarkwanderer
    @lanarkwanderer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent explanation, thanks. I have LA batteries now in my RV trailer. Looking at changing to lithium batteries. My converter isn’t LI compatible. I’m considering switching to a charger/inverter/transfer switch in one, Go-Power unit. Appears to be the best solution. I already have a shunt with Bluetooth, solar panel and controller with Bluetooth and LI programmable. I have the 18A dc to dc charger already. My real decision is on the best LI batteries to buy. It seems what good today has issues later. Prices keep coming down, so when to jump in ?

  • @user-ky4rz2sn8v
    @user-ky4rz2sn8v 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The best battery etc explanation I have ever watched , thanks for that mate must appreciated
    Jon🇦🇺

  • @johnclamshellsp1969
    @johnclamshellsp1969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really great video on the lithium batteries for RV's. Question for you on this. Have they resolved the no cold charging when temps are below 32'f ? Our RV is northern cold climate and from the last I checked, lithium batteries will not charge from 32'f and below.
    Thank you
    John A
    60107

  • @MrEricmopar
    @MrEricmopar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is the first time I have seen anyone properly address the voltage differences. It also applies to the current you can safely charge with. NiCad, Lithium, Lead Acid and other batteries, all have specific charging needs.
    I knew this from my Ham Radio stuff, that you couldn't just swap out different types of batteries. Radio Controllers for toys and models also are designed around specific battery types, do to significant voltage differences, and charging voltage and charging current differences.
    Eric gives RV Solar Concepts a gold star for doing his research. 😆

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The devil is in the details, but it sounds like you know that sir! Thanks for your input Eric!

  • @dalehuhtala9285
    @dalehuhtala9285 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for clearing up the drop-in myth. On my RV, i contacted the converter manufacturer and to my surprise they responded with a diagram showing me where the lead acid/lithium dip switch is! A flip of the switch and I'm now putting out 14.6V! One 100 AH Lithium essentially has the capacity of two older 100 AH lead acid battery!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice! Glad you had a compatible model! You're off to the races now!

  • @petertexsuderman1021
    @petertexsuderman1021 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very valuable information thank you for the video. I swapped my motorcycle battery to a lithium and I did notice it died on me sooner than I expected, is that a good idea to do, or should I change it back?

  • @btorr2945
    @btorr2945 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good video. I myself did just enough research before buying my battery. I have a Victron Smart Shunt and Controller. Been working great. Only problem I ran into was an occasional update resetting the controller to a non lithium setting.(hasn’t happened lately) I changed out my converter. Nice to go from 4-5 amps from the old converter to roughly 25-33amps charge with the new one. I ran into one guy who put a lithium in his camper, but was satisfied with it NOT being charged properly. My only (sort of) mistake; I bought mine a couple years ago, so yes a bit more expensive and had little options on batteries capable of proper charging in cold weather. Although I winter in southern New Mexico, i wanted to be prepared just in case. So bought a more expensive one capable of cold weather charging only to get curious enough to find the battery compartment never got cold enough for the BMS to kick the cell heater in. While rare, I still get into single digit temps but plenty(like 2 nights ago) temps got down to 16° and battery compartment was still above freezing.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well that's good that you never ended up needing that feature, but it's there if you ever do!
      Yeah I think most people believe of the ambient temp is below 32 degrees then the batteries won't charge. In actuality, as long as the internal temperature of the cells is still above 32 they will operate as normal. In most cases, it takes several hours at 10 degrees or below to finally reach the point of triggering the battery protection.

  • @joelgoff4722
    @joelgoff4722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nice video. But I would like to say that my 4 six yr old Trojan 105 FLA's have been great for me & still going strong. I have 390w solar on roof & 2000w inverter w/Victron controller. If it's sunny, my setup gets us all the power we need as we camp where we have a good chance for nice sunny weather. My lithium friends run their genny's on cloudy days just like me. We don't ever need AC as we chase 60 to 80 degree's only. If we happen to be in extreme heat, then we'll get a full hookup spot in an rv park for a coupla days as we need to do this anyway from time to time to do laundry & such. Anyhow, just wanted to let folks know there's a simpler way with heckuva a lot less cost.

  • @user-retsailor
    @user-retsailor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nicely explained in simple terms. I've been wanting to convert to Lithium in my Motorhome but did not understand the DC to DC charger or the shunt. Now I umderstand. I have done all the work on my motorhome but, for some reason, these items really seemed complicated. Now, I'll have to start planning my swap and wiring diagram so I don't get lost. Thanks !

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! We just published a video on the installation and programming of the victron shunt so be sure to check that out and let us know if you have any questions!

  • @rhylin26
    @rhylin26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just learned a lot. Thank you.

  • @raycalandra1887
    @raycalandra1887 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video about replacing lead acid with Lifepo4 batteries. Excellent explanation of all aspects of the two systems. I have done this change over three years ago, replacing my very heavy AGM battery with a 24lb 100 amp hour Lifepo4 battery. I have not changed my converter however, and have had no problems with the performance of the Lifepo4 lithium battery. I do have 300 watts of solar, and a Renogy charge controller that I set up for my lithium battery's charge profile. I also have a Renogy 20amp DC to DC charger rigged into my truck, and a have a stand alone 25amp battery charger that a lithium charging profile. You don't need to keep a Lifepo4 battery fully charged at all times. I just top mine off once a month.

    • @hstorysalie
      @hstorysalie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your charge controller runs at 14.7 volts to top off charge on batteries?

    • @raycalandra1887
      @raycalandra1887 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hstorysalie 14.6v

  • @jennyreed7134
    @jennyreed7134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lots of good info here. Great video ❤

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the support!

  • @rogerdalpe587
    @rogerdalpe587 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done and helpful video

  • @flhtru1464
    @flhtru1464 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, I myself am 100% Victron for the Inverter/charger/transfer switch, solar chargers and the battery monitor. It is so user friendly and the best, Bluetooth app controlled.

  • @_The_Captain
    @_The_Captain 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great video. You should do more, I like your presentation.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! We are working on some new content, hopefully have it up soon!

  • @Socalhodaka
    @Socalhodaka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks so much for explaining this in such a simple and clear way. Question, should there be any concern with just the general wiring in an older 2008 MH if doing a proper swap like you just laid out?
    Thanks again for a great video.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for the feedback, we're glad you enjoyed it! As long as the wiring is in good shape it shouldn't cause any issues. 12vdc power on traditional batteries can float everywhere from 11 volts to 15 volts (during an equalization cycle) so running lithium between 12 and 14 is no different.

  • @wobby1516
    @wobby1516 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve changed to lithium but like you say I’ve also gone with all Victron equipment for my solar and mains charger as well as a battery to battery DC2DC charger. Everything is working brilliantly. I also fitted a Victron shunt so I know exactly the state of charge in the lithium battery, the old lead acid voltage meter although still in place wouldn’t give a state of charge for the lithium but still shows the condition of the starter motor battery. This guys explanation it’s really brilliant the only thing I’d add is go Victron they are the best.

  • @davidturton9899
    @davidturton9899 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the clearest explanation of the impact of moving from lead-acid to lithium I've ever seen. Yes, I read my Victron manuals, but still didn't understand the nuances.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you got some value from it!

  • @owensdaniels6244
    @owensdaniels6244 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    THANKYOU! YOU SIR.

  • @garywells3874
    @garywells3874 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic info, thank you.

  • @falcorthewonderdog2758
    @falcorthewonderdog2758 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I witnessed an RV lithium battery fire. The fire started in the battery box. Within a minute the entire RV was engulfed in flames. By the time the fire department got there it was burned completely to the frame.
    Lithium batteries are very expensive and an obvious fire hazard.
    Besides that lithium batteries are extremely sensitive to temperature and CAN NOT BE RECHARGED WHEN COLD.
    It's Jan 4th and the temp in Lake Havasu is 40 degrees. Too cold to charge lithium batteries.
    My RV I use 4 6v deep cell golf cart batteries from interstate. 225 ah rating per pair. 165.00 each. This is basically the same price as one lithium 100ah battery.
    No need to modify your RV charging circuit or deal with "battery charge controller" issues.
    I've been running this system for 7 years now issues what so ever with the lead acid batteries. Hope this helps save you a bunch of cash.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I'd be curious to know what the chemistry of that "Lithium" battery was. In the early days Lithium-Ion batteries had a serious risk of failure for a multitude of reasons and are not anywhere near what they are now. In those early days of manufacturing Lithium-Ion batteries they contained an electrolyte that is very flammable and generally contained lithium hexafluorophosphate (LiPF6) or other Li-salts containing fluorine. This is not the case with new "Lithium" batteries. The new chemistry that is being widely adopted is Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFeP04). This chemistry is not inherently flammable and nearly every battery on the market contains a Battery Management System known as a "BMS". This BMS carries all of the safeguards for protecting the cells inside before they are damaged for any reason including charging protection under 32 degrees.
      Lithium batteries can still discharge and be used under freezing temperatures but charging them when the internal temperatures are below freezing can damage the cells. Most manufacturers have internally heated batteries available now so this is no longer an issue as well. It seems it has been a while since you looked into the possibility of lithium so you might want to take another look to see what advancements have been made in the last 5 years.
      Where lithium batteries really help people are in cases where the batteries can't be stored outside of the RV. Bumper pull trailers in most cases can only hold 2 small lead acid batteries yielding them about 100 amp hours of useable storage where as a large 200AH lithium battery will fit in the same footprint, be lighter, and give them double the battery capacity they otherwise would be able to have. Lithium also requires NO maintenance whatsoever and usually last 10 or more years. Are they expensive? Yes. Will you spend the same amount of money replacing your lead acid batteries over the course of 10 years? yes. It's a buy once cry once kind of scenario but definitely not for everyone.
      Thanks for your comment!

    • @jlantz3691
      @jlantz3691 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The video I've been looking for! Clear, concise, and comprehensive. I've been wanting to upgrade to lithium, especially with the prices coming down. Now I know exactly what to look for what else I might have to change. Just checked my converter, and it's g2g. Just need to check my solar controller and hopefully it's off to the races. Thanks again.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jlantz3691 Glad to help!!

    • @travellingjournalist966
      @travellingjournalist966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rvsolarconceptsI
      I have made a comment above about doing a hybrid system, but just to clarify I’ve been using 6v Trojan 105 batteries 2sets on my boat I will agree they do need maintaining and in the winter time they should be charged every day summer time I have plenty of solar so I don’t need to run the engine unless I have to move which is about every 2weeks if you treat them right they could quite easily last 10 years or more they are on their 8th year it that’s by the by I’d like to be able to use things like air fryers in the winter as well as in the summer look forward to your reply about creating a hybrid system

    • @GBuds_RVremodel
      @GBuds_RVremodel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Modern Lithium batteries have either, or both, heaters and low temp adapters built it. Keep up...haha

  • @ShadowAlmighty
    @ShadowAlmighty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative video, thank you! Question: on my class B van, the coach batteries are grounded to the chassis, is that incorrect? Also, my inverter negative is tied directly to the battery terminal on one of the coach batteries, but not the one with the shunt. So my Renogy battery monitor doesn’t show any current draw when the inverter is running. Should the inverter be grounded to the chassis instead? Lastly, the output from the alternator goes to a battery isolator, and then to the chassis battery and the coach batteries. how does it know to keep charging the batteries if either the coach batteries or the chassis battery are low? Sorry for all the questions! Just trying to figure these things out.

  • @user-vw4ws8xx1o
    @user-vw4ws8xx1o 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent explanation

  • @JohnBorgen
    @JohnBorgen 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My Flagstaff 528MBS came with a variable charge controller. I can set the chemestry of the battery I'm charging. I've always known when I upgrade to Li I would need to change the setting to Li...but I never knew why. Thanks for explaining!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome John, thanks for the support my man!

  • @clarkvalcoic1736
    @clarkvalcoic1736 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    you covered it all. But I have a unique situation in my Class C and am wondering if the alternator can hurt the charge controller by putting out too many amps.? I have solar on roof, charge controller, 2 separate battery banks isolated 1 lithium, 1 SLA. Inverter instead of generator. My plan is to use the SLA (charged by alternator while driving to run the inverter to the fridge. I isolate the lithium but the Charge controller is still on,line at the bus bars. I dont want to destroy the Charge controller.

  • @ghostpepperrides4805
    @ghostpepperrides4805 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very well said.

  • @HandiLuv
    @HandiLuv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That’s one of the best explanations that I’ve see yet. I’m want to get lithium installed in my travel trailer and no one in my area seems to be as knowledgeable as what I’ve just watched in this video. Sir please tell me what state your shop is in. If your not to far I WILL DRIVE THERE FOR SERVICE 😂!!!!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the feedback! We are located in Arizona. If you ever make the trip, swing in and we will get you taken care of!

  • @Crayfish-
    @Crayfish- 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you RVSC, I believe that I Got All the information that That was Needed @ 5:00 in this Video / & Thrice told at That !

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you got something from it! Thanks for your support!

  • @GATORADDAM
    @GATORADDAM 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really good info. And at the right time for me!

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you were able to get something from it!

  • @rbucklew
    @rbucklew 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video! If I quickly heard at the end - the shunt is not required if you have a bluetooth enabled Lithium battery?

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bluetooth batteries usually contain the ability to monitor their state of charge through their corresponding BMS app. In those cases, as long as you are within bluetooth range of the batteries you may not need a shunt because you can check the state of charge through the batteries individually.

  • @nelsondube295
    @nelsondube295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Merci beaucoup! Bon explication !

    • @nelsondube295
      @nelsondube295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have any other videos where you explain how to make the connections of these devices? that would be very interesting!

  • @scottisherwood1586
    @scottisherwood1586 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video sir thank you.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No problem at all, glad you found it useful!

  • @bridgetteh9513
    @bridgetteh9513 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for this

  • @EVModules
    @EVModules หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I certainly learned a LOT from you, thank you! One question,... you mentioned about a DC to DC charger for motorhomes but what about trailers that are being charged at the 7-pin towing connector while traveling? Is it recommended as well to have it installed when switching to Lithium?

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They are not needed for trailers. The wiring in the 7 pin connector is too small to allow any significant amount of amperage to pass through it so your alternator on the towing vehicle is not at risk, great question, thank you!

  • @mikeglasgow9618
    @mikeglasgow9618 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if you have a truck camper. We usually drive 8 hours a day when we are traveling. Wouldn't my alternator charge a lithium " so called" drop in.? We currently use 2 lead acid 12vdc Interstate RV batteries. Just wondering. Thanks in advance for your help.

  • @kebekoua
    @kebekoua 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you 👍👍

  • @inspectorsj
    @inspectorsj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome information!!

  • @paulhughes5979
    @paulhughes5979 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I spoke to the manufacturer of my converter about hooking up a lithium in place of my wet battery. He said it will work but as you stated it will only charge to 13.6 max but you can use it down to 10% where as you should not discharge a wet battery past 50%. So you could get a lot more usage out of the lithium battery.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's correct. No maintenance, 10+ year warranty in most cases, half the weight, and accurate state of charge readings are all great perks of lithium. They do come with a few drawbacks but I believe clearing those up is definitely worth the gain.
      Thanks for the comment! Let us know if you need help with anything or have questions when you swap over and we can make you a video explaining everything!

    • @danphillips3589
      @danphillips3589 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do the same, my generator charges to 13.6, I then turn off generator and let solar panels continue charging battery to full.

  • @anhl5091
    @anhl5091 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so in a boat where the stator or alternator doesnt charge past 13.6 volts, the LiFePO4 wouldnt get to full charge? This could be a good thing as then the BMS wouldnt shut off the battery and then the charge has nowhere to go and then end up frying the electronics on the boat...am I correct to assume this? I top off my LiFePO4 with a LiFePO4 battery tender but then I bleed some voltage off by letting some electronics run for a while before I launch the boat to avoid the BMS shutting off the battery charge.

  • @andrewpatrick2660
    @andrewpatrick2660 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was very useful. Thanks.

  • @robertskolozdra6904
    @robertskolozdra6904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the best way to store these when not in use over winter? Do you need to keep them charged or can you let them get cold without any load on them?

  • @tufpistol
    @tufpistol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, thanks!

  • @erikimmel8369
    @erikimmel8369 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great info. Thanks!

  • @patriot9455
    @patriot9455 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about using a Marine deep cycle battery because you want to keep a battery ready to run an electric trolling motor or a radio transmitter GMRS or HAM radio system

  • @timclosson7166
    @timclosson7166 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thank you!

  • @stephanegalipeau3740
    @stephanegalipeau3740 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello from Canada. Really love your videos. My question is I purchased a 200 watt solar system and was wondering if I need a fuse inline with the solar panel and battery. I have 2 12volt AGM batteries if you could give my some pointers it would be appreciated thank you.

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the feedback! The output of your solar controller going to your batteries should always be fused.

  • @mikeskaggs3763
    @mikeskaggs3763 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video...do you need a shunt for each battery or just the last one in battery bank?

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One shunt monitors the entire battery bank.

  • @gerardplank3780
    @gerardplank3780 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job best I’ve seen on this topic!

  • @davidclarke6658
    @davidclarke6658 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes, the desulphation and lead acid type float modes on lead acid chargers is a no no for lithium.

  • @DaB1865
    @DaB1865 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video! Where are you located? Do you know of any company that does lithium battery installs in RV's located in So. California area (Orange or Los Angeles County areas)?

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the feedback! We are located in buckeye, AZ. I'm not familiar with installers in California, sorry... 😅

  • @jimlong527
    @jimlong527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great information for understanding the learning process of lithium batteries.

  • @brotherinarvroger9990
    @brotherinarvroger9990 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video I almost burn my C-Class up . Alternator wire to truck battery burn completely off . While driving. After dropping Lithium batteries in Coach!!! Beware

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow! That's a pretty extreme example, but yes a DC to DC charger would have prevented the excess current in that line which would have eliminated the heightened resistance and ultimately the building of heat in that conductor!
      Thanks for sharing!

  • @daletinsley2954
    @daletinsley2954 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My campervan came with two wet batteries. Can be charged from the mains from the two roof mounted solar panels or from the alternator ( split relay) split relay charging is not very efficient. Also when running a fridge ( 60w 12v so drawing 5a ) a tv lights ( led ) and a diesel heater ( 15a on start up and shut down) they soon start dropping voltage. In England especially up north the solars dont get much in winter ( we don't get much in summer either) so i have fitted two valance 135ah lithiums ( parallel) fed by a 150w solar panel via an 100a mppt controller. I can also charge them by a smart charger though the solar does fine. When the wet batteries start dropping i have a 150a marine type heavy duty switch that connects into the lithiums. All working good. I dont have the lithiums connected to the split relay system. Off the lithiums i have a 1000w and a 600w inverter ( pure sine wave) I've been into the Yorkshire dales off grid for a week and not dropped below 76% on the lithiums. Wouldn't have lasted two days with the wet batteries. BEST WISHES FROM THE UK

  • @dezertraider
    @dezertraider 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    THANK YOU

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're welcome! Let us know if you have any other questions and we can put something together for you!

  • @IFLYRace51
    @IFLYRace51 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I camp year round, and wish I had kept my old lead acid batteries! The lithium with lo temp cutoff leaves you with NO battery when freezing! I was shocked to end up with no 12 volts at all. Installing facon tank heaters in the battery box fixed the issue, but it ended up being alot of frustration and work. Self heating batteries would have been my best bet had I known. I installed 2 200 amp lithium iron phosphate batteries, lo temp cutoff in my rv.

    • @daletinsley2954
      @daletinsley2954 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Im from the UK. I work for a company that builds both diesel and electric buses. Two years ago we were told that we weren't building anymore diesel as the future is electric. Two years later we are only building diesels. WHY ! ) Well electric only bus loses too much mileage when the weather is cold they're silly expensive and only practical in a city ( not far from a charging hub )

  • @victorlopez2143
    @victorlopez2143 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for the information that I've been looking for. Considering the price of lithium batteries and the cost of the changing of the converter/charger this is out of my zone..Since I don't do solar or boondocking I don't feel I need to spend the extra monies that I don't have. If I do upgrade it would be to AGM batteries since I don't need to change my converter/charger..Again great info - Thanks..

  • @petesmimob
    @petesmimob หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you, your video is informative,. A question: - So can I expect a 20w Solar panel designed to keep an acid battery topped up, to charge a Lithium type battery.?? Regards Pete

    • @rvsolarconcepts
      @rvsolarconcepts  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It has less to do with the solar panel and more to do with the solar charge controller depending on the application. We have installed solar powered gate actuators in the past that didn't use a charge controller at all and the 30 watt solar panel has kept the small lithium battery charged just fine for over a year with no issues.

    • @petesmimob
      @petesmimob หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rvsolarconcepts Thank you so much for taking time to reply, and your reasoning is, understandable, Its the charge controller that, likely would stop the Solar panel charging the Lithium battery. thank you again for helping me to understand. Your brilliant. Best regards Pete.