Model Nika was the original fruit passed down in the giant clan which someone in the Navy stole and replaced with a similar looking fruit and then Shanks jacked the Navy once he found out they had it. Hence why Loki thinks he has the Sun God fruit but probably has a similar type fire related fruit
@@davidfity2802 it’d be fun if Loki has the Gomu Gomu No Mi, and there was a prophecy of awakening the fruit and gaining the Sun God Powers, but none of giants could do it, because they had the wrong fruit
BB strikes when someone is weak. Loki is the perfect person to weaken shanks for an assassination attempt. Or after a Davy back fight with luffy at another point lol A Davy back triple yolk assassination would take the world by storm tho ngl
Keeping in mind that Loki being a trickster tends to go hand in hand, I'm thinking Loki is tricking all of Elbaf into thinking he killed King Harald for the Devil Fruit. I'm thinking that either King Harald planned to side with the Navy and World Nobles in secret by providing CP0 the Gum Gum fruit and got killed by Loki or King Harald played the part of a villain in order to have these events happen but was killed by CP0 and Loki took the blame. My reasoning for this is that if King Harald is taking a role like Odin then having him side with the Navy and World Nobles as a crazed war monger makes sense, but on the other hand if he can see into the future like Odin and took actions to make sure the Gum Gum fruit gets to where it needs to aka Luffy then that would also fit. As stated earlier Loki would trick all of Elbaf into thinking he killed his father for the Devil Fruit in order to protect his father's image which would fit either scenario I pitched. (And yeah this would also imply Hajrudin takes the role of Thor, a clueless good hearted warrior that tries to live up to his father's image and falls time and again to his brother's tricks but ultimately rules over his people.)
Adding on that: what if the mastermind of all of this was Shanks who: 1. Convince Harald that Loki was a threat, hence to give Nika fruit to World Government (planning already to steal it) 2. Somehow killed Harald and Loki is lying and taking credit from it , and actually ate another Devil Fruit 3. Shanks wears the white knight's cape and help giants to capture & lock Loki (hence takes the glory and becomes Yonko) 4. Shanks steals the Nika fruit and.....it gets eaten by mistake from Luffy. 5. Now, at nowadays, Shanks is plotting to get Luffy killed to get back the Nila fruit Twisted as hell...
Crazy idea, giants normally would fight to the death. So what if shank is the reason that loki was imprisoned and not dead. So not finishing a fight is way he calls shanks a coward
@@slyaton my theory is that he calls shanks a coward because shanks was the actual one to kill the king of elbaf and pinned it on Loki. I think that is why Loki hates him so much.
@migueltorres4961 good idea but a frame job seem out of character and claiming the kill could add to the power of his name and further protect the weak pirates under him. " mess with shanks and your dead, not even a giant king could escape his wrath"
Perhaps CP0 actually assassinated Harald. Prince Loki, upon seeing this, probably ate a fruit he thought was the reincarnation of the Nika fruit to prevent the WG from acquiring it. As a result, he gets incriminated in Harald's murder. Shanks happens to be there and assists in defeating Loki while CP0 slips away. Shanks, somehow notices that Loki doesn't have the Nika fruit, and sets out to find the CP0 ship where the real fruit is located to retrieve it. Perhaps Loki might have an illusion or reality warping fruit. One that allows him to change the form of objects, people etc.
Hear me out: LOKI thinks he’s the sun god and he killed his father for his devil fruit what if shanks got to it first and Loki was mistaken and ate the wrong devil fruit unknowingly that’s why he reacted with curiosity when luffy used his powers
@christopherbrown-vu1ey even further, shanks only went to elbaph to kill loki and take his devil fruit but realized that loki didn't have the right devil fruit so that's why he wasn't killed, only chained up. Shanks became Yonko only because his mission was to get the Nika fruit.
What if loki ate real rubber fruit but as it was treasured in elbaf it never got into encyclopedia Loki might have ate actual rubber and luffy nika fruit
I actually had thought the same thing! Even thought further - what if rubber fruit and Nika fruit look identical as well, both being kept within Elbaph royalty, reason why it wasn't in any Devil Fruit Encyclopedia's / Bingo Books and the whole reason why Shanks has decided to go after One Piece now, is because Luffys' wanted poster shows his awakened Nika form, meaning that the bet he described placing on the new generation to Whitebeard, wasn't actually him thinking that Luffy was the kid who will become Pirate King, but actually him placing the bet on whether the fruit was either Gomu Gomu no Mi, or Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika. That would kind of explain why Loki thinks he is the Sun-God, because he has an idea of what the fruits' powers are, but hasn't been able to awaken them. Also think that Sun-God is a title given to the strongest Elbaph warrior or leader. Same way how Egyptian Pharaohs considered themselves Gods in ancient history.
For some crazy head cannon look and the eye of ra's powers. Also known as a Sun God, whos eye powers include protection, destruction, balance, heat and light, AND DAWN. Dawn meaning the red light that appears before the dawn and the dawn star that signals the coming of the SUN!
So, real quick, the norse version of hell, "hellheim", is a cold dark place wherein souls are trapped for eternity often portrayed as an icy land. it is also sometimes represented as the lowest realm on the world tree Yggdrasil. We see that the snowy part of Elbaf is the first place they arrive and also the place where Loki is imprisoned, so it would make sense to me if the journey through Elbaf sends the crew through each of the realms (or even one realm each as there are 9 and then Luffy does his own thing as usual). Personally I would like this as it could give each character their own special character arc and training similar to during the timeskip except this time we would see it
In mythology, Loki could transform himself into any animal he wanted. My guess is Loki has a busted mythical zoan shape shifting (shape-shape nomi) that allows to transform not just into any animal, but also any zoan form. And since sun god is associated with freedom and being or doing anything he can imagine, hence Loki thinks he's the actual sun god.
I legit think shanks n loki were good friends then ,loki wanted to take out the world government ,but shanks n the giants did not want to,they fought loki got locked up,n that's why loki called shanks a coward
SUN (Logia) fruit Actual Sun Heat , represents Sun as a Planet vs Nika ( Mythical Zoan) Fruit the sun god , represents more then the fire aspect , Freedom , Joy etc in my opinion Oda makes Loki the Surtr who Burns Elbaph down or tries to but Luffy the Sun God Tames him Luffy might lose a EYE
Surprised you didn’t try to tie in the Giant straw hat IMU has in the vault , that belong to the original Joyboy ( a version of him) that could of been a gaint tied to elbaph & why the sun god fruit could of potentially came from him and the king ask shanks to retrieve it for him. That would explain why loki thinks he ate the nika fruit because Joyboy was a giant , whos stories ,fruit , and title was pass down through the giants royal family. Just a random thought & Always thank you for the Videos 🙌🏾💯
I hope instead, that Luffy & Usopp will release Loki, and have him and to not fight the Giants or Shank's crew. When Shanks shows up, he's furious and one shots Loki, gives Luffy doughnut flashbacks, and shatters his image of Shanks. This would cause the Straw Hats & Red Hairs to get into their first fight.
I just realized a way that there can be two Sun-God fruits associated with the same Sun-God: One of them (the one Luffy has) is a Mythical Zoan based *on* Sun-Go Nika, but since Sun-God Nika was a specific person, that means... ...there could also be a devil-fruit that was once eaten *by* Sun-God Nika, and passed onwards when he died. This could be any type of devil-fruit, but I have a suspicion it's a Logia.
I’ve been on the Fenrir idea myself. What if Loki has the mythical Fenrir fruit. The other thing that I have been thinking is how shanks will be killed. I still think it is Blackbeard. In Norse mythology if I remember correctly, Tyr is mortally wounded by Garm (in this case Blackbeard), the guard dog of the underworld, during Ragnarok. This would add more credence to Blackbeard having the Cerberus fruit as well. Garm bites off his Shanks other arm and he bleeds out, but not before Tyr mortally wounding Garm. I dunno, just ideas that popped in my head. Edit: I forgot to mention Fenrir is supposed to swallow the sun at Ragnarok
I think in the past that Loki was a victim of the culling tournament on God Valley and has a special bounty on him because he evaded capture by the God Knights this gave Prince Loki his nihilistic outlook on life.
You need characters like Loki for the future fighting Because we already se how powerful luffy nika version and 5 elders of marines also imu So it's essential to be sure new character should be stronger than previous characters
What if Loki's father was killed by Shanks, and before he was dead he gave the power to Loki. What if Sun God was not luffy as we thought, and what if luffy had the moon God fruit 😮.
i think hajrudin is inspired from a real life person heyreddin barbarosaa (redbeard) who first was a prominent pirate in 1600 he did piracy during that time and had a strong pirate fleet after recognising his power king made him a navy fleet commander and then admiral he too had a brother who was killed, so by analogy ig hajrudin would be caught red handed (as redbeard ofc) and then we will get to know he did betryal and was with navy whole time and he killed his father himself not loki but his father herald ( herald = something big i comming ) gave the df to loki knowing hajrudins intention and then eventually killed and the blame was transfered to loki maybe shanks helped hajrudin here to get his hand on elbaf as a yonko territory and here it is now, the present scenario
22:45 I mean if you think of it, ALL of Hito Hito nomi are capable of changing size of their body ( mainly giantification since all of them so far are human sized), who knows if what Loki ate is also a Hito Hito nomi.
I think that loki fruit has a fire type devil fruit because loki in the comics actually has a another name of his multiple names which god of fire or firebringer and it will also make sense why harudjin would compete in the tournament in dressora to get Ace's flame fruit maybe as a way to compete against loki with a fire type fruit basically fighting fire with fire
Less then a min in and it's Loki killing Shanks prediction. Very bold of you and I'm commenting so I can come back to this. You sir are either a genuine genius or delusional, and I'm excited to find which one 😂🙏
I saw a Mr Morj video talking about Loki potentially having an “Elbaph” fruit cause in little garden Dorry and Broggy mentioned that being a god in there folklore, although I don’t know how I guess legit that is (maybe someone remind Oda of it (kidding party not))
The patricide. I'm seeing Skyrim flashbacks. It was an honorable duel and they didn't want Ulfric Stormcloak to be the High King. YOU WONT LEAVE ELBAF ALIVE!
Prediction: Eustace Kidd will be the one to free Loki in order to seek revenge against the Red-Hair pirates and the giants of Elbaph. And that will kickstart the final war in full force. I'm also predicting that Saul was the Man Marked By Flames and had since handed the last Road Poneglyph to Shanks (hence the reason Shanks was even on Elbaph in the first place). And lastly, I predict that Loki was the mysterious figure who is said to be one of the twelve key figures in the race for the One Piece.
Nah that's all head cannon. I think shanks is not so great and he's the one that had Loki locked up. Or more like Loki got locked up because shanks is a good dude. # either way I hate shanks
He literally said kizarus name once knowing he fast enough, strong enough, and can actually hurt gojo with his attacks, and giving gojo the advanced form of all haki when he it took him years to master his own ability and he literally had an instruction manual from all the previous users of his ability. The glazing was crazy in this video
I’ve got 2 theories that this video helped me think about more. One theory is that shanks could have stopped Loki and chained him up and his father was killed. I believe The King was a Yonko that was getting old and helped shanks become the next Yonko and tell him to find the hidden Devil Fruit that was replaced. Another theory I had was that JoyBoy was a Giant from ancient Elbaf. This is because Imu had a giant straw hat that JoyBoy could have worn and could symbolize the next Warrior Of Liberation. JoyBoy was an Elbaf giant and his fruit was supposed to be passed down every generation but wasn’t and instead was locked away and then given to the government to hide and then shanks found it. It’s why shanks had the hat. He was said to be the next JoyBoy but once Luffy ate the fruit he was given the hat to symbolize the next Warrior of Liberation. These Theories could be debunked but I wanted to share my thoughts on what may happen in the future. And see how yall think of this
I haven't actually read the Manga so I could be a little off but the situation between Luffy and Loki is not dissimilar to when he first met Zoro strapped to a post. The dialogue seems to be a little different but both Loki and Zoro both spoke about killing pirates.
if the nika fruit was from elbaf and the previous user of the fruit was joyboy then mabye joyboy wasa giant and also indicating that there was the big strawhat with imu this backs it up even more
now i really feel like Shanks was talking to Gorosei about Loki when he said he has to talk about "a certain pirate", maybe his powers are that dangerous
And those mentions of Shanks meeting with the gorosei and possibly being evil suddenly makes me wonder if Shanks is actually Imu, like that would just be fucked up. But of course it was a while since i saw that scene so i may be missing a few details that disprove it.
Buddy. That wasn’t shanks meeting with the Gorosei. They never once addressed him as shanks-they also intentionally *didn’t* show his left eye with the scar … Because it’s literally not shanks.
remember the giant who was able to shape shift, the daughter to the chef who was captured by the marines, just before punk hazard, fluffy stayed they should fight like that again, we may see her again on elbaf.
I would hate to see it, but I’d also LOVE the story if it does go into shanks becoming or revealing his true intentions and not being a purely good or good at all character. A good ol betrayal is top tier.
wild guess, there could be 2 or even more nika fruits: it could be like in the story of dragonball where there are different dragoballs like we recently learned in Daima that there are dragon balls in the demon world. So maybe there are likewise fruit on the moon or other planets. . I know it would blow the whole story about devil fruits but.... who knows what Oda is cooking :D
Loki proposed to Lola and got turned downed , he's chained up seastone, and his bounty is in the billions mark. Oh wait he has eyes covered, by anime rules he's going to be something serious
15:10 momonosuke got it and vegapunk also creates that by having kaidos DNA and it wasn't blue but pink momonosuke found it and ate but the government doesn't have Luffys DNA so that's not possible
Black beard isn't killing shanks. He's getting killed by Garland when he tried to make a deal with the elders. Garland is going to use him and his crew as a show of power and take him out.
This is a video idea: what if there were no one piece to find. I know it might sound crazy but it’s a thing that I’ve been thinking about if Joy boy never had hid one piece on laughtale, how would the one piece world be like.h and what would happen to people like Luffy Roger and everybody else who were a pirate.
It would probably be Odin instead of loki, as he was still alive. I think Shanks helped Loki to kill Odin and then betrayed him and got the credits for everything. Especially because Elbaf is Shanks territory and very closed to the Lodestar island
Using my extensive knowledge of Norse mythology and One Piece, I have a theory: Loki almost definitely ate a mythical zoan fruit. He also seems to have the morals and ambitions of Crocodile. A really shape-shifty mythical zoan, or like a fiery human mythical zoan? Or he turns into the beings that Norse Loki would shift into or the beings he had as offspring, like Jormungandr and Fenrir. Luffy likes to fight, so he won't use Loki's offer. Makes me feel someone else will free him and send after Luffy, but that'll make plot weird and drawn out. I doubt that. But the girl giants said near Nami & Usopp that they and Hajrudin don't think Loki is the shame of Elbaf but rather Rodo is for being a weirdo (probably for playing with toys). Maybe any of these people will free him, but Luffy is definitely gonna do it for sure. He can do the haki things like at Wano prison. Fenrir is supposed to being ragnarok, the end of the world. He gets chained by Tyr and loses his arm to Fenrir. Shanks lost his arm to a beast, and he chained Loki. Loki wants to cause ragnarok, and I remember hearing about a Burning Man. Maybe Loki is based partly on Loki the god but also Sutur, which was a fiery giant that helped bring ragnarok. It says Loki ate a legendary devil fruit passed down the royal bloodline, maybe it's another hito hito no mi model fruit, and the name may be Sutur or something else. I suspect the fruit is related to the Sun God Nika, since the Nika story comes from Elbaf. If it's sutur, the fiery nature of it may be reminiscent of a sun god. Loki has some sun tattoos on his arms. I feel Loki reminds me of Crocodile, who isn't aspiring to destroy the world but just wants some vengeance and wants to rebuild Elbaf a certain way. Not a super bad guy but sort of bad. Shanks isn't bad I don't believe. It still doesn't seem to me that Shanks is bad. I don't understand what people are getting their intel from to make that assumption. I'm also curious what St. Garling's devil fruit transformation is. I feel he'll be involved in this, so his story or devil fruit may connect to Elbaf's story. Maybe the Navy stole the Nika fruit from Elbaf's royal family, and they replaced it with this other fruit, which is why Loki thinks he is the sun god. Remember Shanks seemed to have been to that bar already before in Elbaf. If Loki's fruit causes fire, then I'd expect to see a burnt-up Elbaf. It isn't burnt anywhere we can see, so I'm unsure. His eyes being covered may be related to some devil fruit power or a special level of haki. Odin's eye could see the future I think, super good observation haki. Maybe Shanks and others had to cover his eyes to nerf him. By the way, Hajrudin seems important. Comes from a royal family, and he seems more like a Thor character. Thor and Loki, Hajrudin and Loki, may actually end up working together against a bigger and badder enemy. Luffy may learn crazy haki from Loki a little, but I think Loki will be like Crocodile but ally with Luffy temporarily like Law. How would Luffy get him to not kill Shanks? Either Shanks isn't on Elbaf anymore, so no problem, or he fights Loki, giving us an epic fight. At the end, Loki cooperates with Straw Hats because he's useful to the plot and had an important devil fruit we don't know. What would we call a legendary df? Probably mythical zoan type. What is a power Norse Loki has? Shape-shifting, so that may be zoan. So it can be a human zoan or another kind of zoan, but this makes so much sense.
I'm seeing some Blackbeard and Doflamingo paralels here... Also, Oda likes to use eyes and glasses to represent worldview of people, in Loki's case they are hidden, meaning yeah, we arent supposed to be sure what's his deal yet. And innacurate judging by following hearsay is like half the story, the strawhats, Robin, Buggy, Crocodile, Doflamingo, the Navy... they all have apulic face different from what they are/were really about. Myth Loki wasnt evil per-se, he was a trickster that got into trouble but also helped the aesir on occasion... until the Baldr situation. So he might be about as neutral as Shanks is, with just a different presentation.
Video Idea: What would the Strawhats be without the timeskip? Yes they are weaker but everything they has done in the OG storyline would be 2 years ahead too so, Punk Hazard 2 years ago, is Law with Ceaser Clown? No Fugitora in Dressrosa? No Kimenkon and Momuske?? It’s a very interesting concept
Starting to see parallels between Shanks and Tyr/Odin as if he was meant to be a mish mash of the two. Which would make sense seeing as Loki seems to almost be a combination of Loki/Fenrir, destined to kill Shanks and forever imprisoned for an unforgivable crime (like the murder of Baldr).
Have the name of a Mythological God, a mythical zoan, hyped for a long time, important reputation in a warrior country, he'll 100% be cool *Remember Orochi* He'll 99% be cool
every one searches for the connection "6 years ago" but it is simply: Loki was the yonko at that time. Maybe not seen by himself or the other giants, but from the World Goverment perspective he was. Shanks defeated him and became the Yonko.
I would love this conversation to be a foreshadowing of loki actually destroying the blackbeard pirates in return for luffy freeing him way later once luffy and him became friends.. sadly it would rob us of some highly anticipated straw hat vs blackbeard matchups
I think because navigator Road of the New Giant Warrior Pirates cosplayed as Loki with the deer mask I think Loki has the Leshy devil fruit an Eastern European demigod like creature who is the god of the forest which has a roaring voice this giant can merge with the forest and is part plant and can change size and is often adorned with a deer like skull and can control the animals of the forest I believe the sun powers stems from Loki's use of photosynthesis.
Model Nika was the original fruit passed down in the giant clan which someone in the Navy stole and replaced with a similar looking fruit and then Shanks jacked the Navy once he found out they had it. Hence why Loki thinks he has the Sun God fruit but probably has a similar type fire related fruit
Someone stealing a legendary fruit from the giants doesnt sound likely. Everything else makes sense tho
@@davidfity2802 it’d be fun if Loki has the Gomu Gomu No Mi, and there was a prophecy of awakening the fruit and gaining the Sun God Powers, but none of giants could do it, because they had the wrong fruit
Plasma-Plasma fruit.
@@jestawell no cause we know from vegapunk that the gomu gomu no mi doesnt actually exist
sounds pretty good. i think we need a bit more confirmation on the time gap but other than that that might be what actually happened
Loki is literally a trickster. It's like his whole schtick. So we need to distrust every single word that comes out of his mouth.
BB strikes when someone is weak. Loki is the perfect person to weaken shanks for an assassination attempt.
Or after a Davy back fight with luffy at another point lol
A Davy back triple yolk assassination would take the world by storm tho ngl
Tekking101 doesn't seem to think so! 😂
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@@JiangGo1998 I don't think Loki is even close to ben Beckman , he is not enough for shanks
Keeping in mind that Loki being a trickster tends to go hand in hand, I'm thinking Loki is tricking all of Elbaf into thinking he killed King Harald for the Devil Fruit. I'm thinking that either King Harald planned to side with the Navy and World Nobles in secret by providing CP0 the Gum Gum fruit and got killed by Loki or King Harald played the part of a villain in order to have these events happen but was killed by CP0 and Loki took the blame. My reasoning for this is that if King Harald is taking a role like Odin then having him side with the Navy and World Nobles as a crazed war monger makes sense, but on the other hand if he can see into the future like Odin and took actions to make sure the Gum Gum fruit gets to where it needs to aka Luffy then that would also fit. As stated earlier Loki would trick all of Elbaf into thinking he killed his father for the Devil Fruit in order to protect his father's image which would fit either scenario I pitched.
(And yeah this would also imply Hajrudin takes the role of Thor, a clueless good hearted warrior that tries to live up to his father's image and falls time and again to his brother's tricks but ultimately rules over his people.)
Umm….no
I like this theory
@@giuseppeiuffrida2900 I still think it'd be more crazier if Loki ACTUALLY killed his own father just for a devil fruit.
@@Oohsy07Uuhammm….. Blackbeard
Adding on that: what if the mastermind of all of this was Shanks who:
1. Convince Harald that Loki was a threat, hence to give Nika fruit to World Government (planning already to steal it)
2. Somehow killed Harald and Loki is lying and taking credit from it , and actually ate another Devil Fruit
3. Shanks wears the white knight's cape and help giants to capture & lock Loki (hence takes the glory and becomes Yonko)
4. Shanks steals the Nika fruit and.....it gets eaten by mistake from Luffy.
5. Now, at nowadays, Shanks is plotting to get Luffy killed to get back the Nila fruit
Twisted as hell...
Crazy idea, giants normally would fight to the death. So what if shank is the reason that loki was imprisoned and not dead. So not finishing a fight is way he calls shanks a coward
@@slyaton my theory is that he calls shanks a coward because shanks was the actual one to kill the king of elbaf and pinned it on Loki. I think that is why Loki hates him so much.
@migueltorres4961 good idea but a frame job seem out of character and claiming the kill could add to the power of his name and further protect the weak pirates under him. " mess with shanks and your dead, not even a giant king could escape his wrath"
I think he called shanks a coward is because. Shanks didn't beat him one on one .he got help from other giants
@@kaushikthomas6919more like giants asked for his help.
Not crazy at all
Perhaps CP0 actually assassinated Harald. Prince Loki, upon seeing this, probably ate a fruit he thought was the reincarnation of the Nika fruit to prevent the WG from acquiring it. As a result, he gets incriminated in Harald's murder. Shanks happens to be there and assists in defeating Loki while CP0 slips away. Shanks, somehow notices that Loki doesn't have the Nika fruit, and sets out to find the CP0 ship where the real fruit is located to retrieve it.
Perhaps Loki might have an illusion or reality warping fruit. One that allows him to change the form of objects, people etc.
Plasma-Plasma fruit.
@@OddOtter707 would be interesting, could also tie in Enel to the story with that since he also uses a type of plasma
Cook
This can be correct wow
"Rody." Loki gave Luffy a taste of his own medicine. 😂
That's karma for luffy
The fact Luffy actually get triggered by that is gold
true LOL
That was so funny
Wasn't it loppy
the loki styled horns cap is cool af ngl
I love how loki looks like monsterpoint chopper
everybody talking about loki and shanks, meanwhile me:
THANK GOD NICO ROBIN LOOKS LIKE NICO ROBIN AGAIN AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS.
I totally agree XD
@@phil2921 nah she looked better with her other hair
@@triazey6768 yeah, she looked fine in other hair.
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Hear me out: LOKI thinks he’s the sun god and he killed his father for his devil fruit what if shanks got to it first and Loki was mistaken and ate the wrong devil fruit unknowingly that’s why he reacted with curiosity when luffy used his powers
@christopherbrown-vu1ey even further, shanks only went to elbaph to kill loki and take his devil fruit but realized that loki didn't have the right devil fruit so that's why he wasn't killed, only chained up. Shanks became Yonko only because his mission was to get the Nika fruit.
That's also why his bounty was so high because there were rumors that he was the one who was the sun god.
Or he was the unknown Yonko shanks beat to take his position
Hear me out guys Loki is not stronger than luffy as you can see in the manga he feared luffy gear 4th punch ✊
But Loki was locked up 6 years ago and Luffy ate his fruit like 10 years ago
What if loki ate real rubber fruit but as it was treasured in elbaf it never got into encyclopedia
Loki might have ate actual rubber and luffy nika fruit
I actually had thought the same thing! Even thought further - what if rubber fruit and Nika fruit look identical as well, both being kept within Elbaph royalty, reason why it wasn't in any Devil Fruit Encyclopedia's / Bingo Books and the whole reason why Shanks has decided to go after One Piece now, is because Luffys' wanted poster shows his awakened Nika form, meaning that the bet he described placing on the new generation to Whitebeard, wasn't actually him thinking that Luffy was the kid who will become Pirate King, but actually him placing the bet on whether the fruit was either Gomu Gomu no Mi, or Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika.
That would kind of explain why Loki thinks he is the Sun-God, because he has an idea of what the fruits' powers are, but hasn't been able to awaken them.
Also think that Sun-God is a title given to the strongest Elbaph warrior or leader. Same way how Egyptian Pharaohs considered themselves Gods in ancient history.
Loki teaches luffy sixth gear
Ts is dumb asf, it would be kattakuri giant edition
@@paragoncomplexllc5471 yea him eating the rubber fruit wouldn’t make sense when it never exists in the first place
@@Aslavetofreedom how do u know it doesn’t exist?
For some crazy head cannon look and the eye of ra's powers. Also known as a Sun God, whos eye powers include protection, destruction, balance, heat and light, AND DAWN. Dawn meaning the red light that appears before the dawn and the dawn star that signals the coming of the SUN!
Yo keep up the good work Ohara
The actual first
So, real quick, the norse version of hell, "hellheim", is a cold dark place wherein souls are trapped for eternity often portrayed as an icy land. it is also sometimes represented as the lowest realm on the world tree Yggdrasil. We see that the snowy part of Elbaf is the first place they arrive and also the place where Loki is imprisoned, so it would make sense to me if the journey through Elbaf sends the crew through each of the realms (or even one realm each as there are 9 and then Luffy does his own thing as usual). Personally I would like this as it could give each character their own special character arc and training similar to during the timeskip except this time we would see it
In mythology, Loki could transform himself into any animal he wanted.
My guess is Loki has a busted mythical zoan shape shifting (shape-shape nomi) that allows to transform not just into any animal, but also any zoan form.
And since sun god is associated with freedom and being or doing anything he can imagine, hence Loki thinks he's the actual sun god.
Luffy just relaxing on Loki chest was just so cool idk why but I’m liking both of them together
I've been an avid watcher of your videos, and i must say i do thoroughly enjoy listening to these theories and ideas. Keep it up bro! ❤
I legit think shanks n loki were good friends then ,loki wanted to take out the world government ,but shanks n the giants did not want to,they fought loki got locked up,n that's why loki called shanks a coward
lol the helmet is amazing on this
SUN (Logia) fruit Actual Sun Heat , represents Sun as a Planet vs Nika ( Mythical Zoan) Fruit the sun god , represents more then the fire aspect , Freedom , Joy etc in my opinion Oda makes Loki the Surtr who Burns Elbaph down or tries to but Luffy the Sun God Tames him Luffy might lose a EYE
Surprised you didn’t try to tie in the Giant straw hat IMU has in the vault , that belong to the original Joyboy ( a version of him) that could of been a gaint tied to elbaph & why the sun god fruit could of potentially came from him and the king ask shanks to retrieve it for him. That would explain why loki thinks he ate the nika fruit because Joyboy was a giant , whos stories ,fruit , and title was pass down through the giants royal family. Just a random thought & Always thank you for the Videos 🙌🏾💯
@@MrSilverkid17 Joy boy isn’t a giant we see it in the flashback. Ever since then I’ve been thinking about that hat
Calling it now - someone else frees Loki and asks him to go after Luffy as their wish for releasing him
13:02 calling it out because you got the idea from ohara right?
That person is Kid
Lol Road is literally following the strawhats up towards where the key is. He's gonna get pissed and let him free
I hope instead, that Luffy & Usopp will release Loki, and have him and to not fight the Giants or Shank's crew. When Shanks shows up, he's furious and one shots Loki, gives Luffy doughnut flashbacks, and shatters his image of Shanks. This would cause the Straw Hats & Red Hairs to get into their first fight.
Woah loki and shanks are parallel identity
Cool
I just realized a way that there can be two Sun-God fruits associated with the same Sun-God:
One of them (the one Luffy has) is a Mythical Zoan based *on* Sun-Go Nika, but since Sun-God Nika was a specific person, that means...
...there could also be a devil-fruit that was once eaten *by* Sun-God Nika, and passed onwards when he died. This could be any type of devil-fruit, but I have a suspicion it's a Logia.
What kind of logia this is a cool theory has me pondering fr 🤔
Great video like always ❤
Dame, we got two semi confirmed realms, helheim and niflheim, and as a norse mythology fan, im so excited to point out more 😊
I’ve been on the Fenrir idea myself. What if Loki has the mythical Fenrir fruit. The other thing that I have been thinking is how shanks will be killed. I still think it is Blackbeard. In Norse mythology if I remember correctly, Tyr is mortally wounded by Garm (in this case Blackbeard), the guard dog of the underworld, during Ragnarok. This would add more credence to Blackbeard having the Cerberus fruit as well. Garm bites off his Shanks other arm and he bleeds out, but not before Tyr mortally wounding Garm. I dunno, just ideas that popped in my head.
Edit: I forgot to mention Fenrir is supposed to swallow the sun at Ragnarok
I think in the past that Loki was a victim of the culling tournament on God Valley and has a special bounty on him because he evaded capture by the God Knights this gave Prince Loki his nihilistic outlook on life.
You need characters like Loki for the future fighting
Because we already se how powerful luffy nika version and 5 elders of marines also imu
So it's essential to be sure new character should be stronger than previous characters
What if Loki's father was killed by Shanks, and before he was dead he gave the power to Loki.
What if Sun God was not luffy as we thought, and what if luffy had the moon God fruit 😮.
Shanks is a pirate, he has never said he was good or bad.
A good Pirate is free and enjoying life,
A bad Pirate is caught or dead.
Big fan ohara and it is cool theory
i think hajrudin is inspired from a real life person heyreddin barbarosaa (redbeard) who first was a prominent pirate in 1600 he did piracy during that time and had a strong pirate fleet after recognising his power king made him a navy fleet commander and then admiral he too had a brother who was killed, so by analogy ig hajrudin would be caught red handed (as redbeard ofc) and then we will get to know he did betryal and was with navy whole time and he killed his father himself not loki but his father herald ( herald = something big i comming ) gave the df to loki knowing hajrudins intention and then eventually killed and the blame was transfered to loki maybe shanks helped hajrudin here to get his hand on elbaf as a yonko territory and here it is now, the present scenario
22:45 I mean if you think of it, ALL of Hito Hito nomi are capable of changing size of their body ( mainly giantification since all of them so far are human sized), who knows if what Loki ate is also a Hito Hito nomi.
I think that loki fruit has a fire type devil fruit because loki in the comics actually has a another name of his multiple names which god of fire or firebringer and it will also make sense why harudjin would compete in the tournament in dressora to get Ace's flame fruit maybe as a way to compete against loki with a fire type fruit basically fighting fire with fire
Less then a min in and it's Loki killing Shanks prediction. Very bold of you and I'm commenting so I can come back to this. You sir are either a genuine genius or delusional, and I'm excited to find which one 😂🙏
So many crew members in Strawhats were considered bad guys.. Nami, Robin, Franky, Lilith.. could Loki be the same?
Lilith? Lilith is officially part of the crew? Wtf I didn't know that 😐 how did I miss that
For now she's moving around with the strawhats
How do the strawhats sail with a giant on the sunny?
We need a flashback of how Loki got locked up. Hopefully it's planned in a chapter or two down the road. I want to see how Shanks took this guy down.
its midnight in nepal but still watching your videos
I saw a Mr Morj video talking about Loki potentially having an “Elbaph” fruit cause in little garden Dorry and Broggy mentioned that being a god in there folklore, although I don’t know how I guess legit that is (maybe someone remind Oda of it (kidding party not))
the fights in elbaf are going to be awesome
The patricide. I'm seeing Skyrim flashbacks. It was an honorable duel and they didn't want Ulfric Stormcloak to be the High King.
YOU WONT LEAVE ELBAF ALIVE!
Prediction: Eustace Kidd will be the one to free Loki in order to seek revenge against the Red-Hair pirates and the giants of Elbaph. And that will kickstart the final war in full force. I'm also predicting that Saul was the Man Marked By Flames and had since handed the last Road Poneglyph to Shanks (hence the reason Shanks was even on Elbaph in the first place). And lastly, I predict that Loki was the mysterious figure who is said to be one of the twelve key figures in the race for the One Piece.
I would simply love it if Loki ate the gum gum fruit and just thinks it's the hito hito Nomi's first level bevor achiving Gear 5
6:20 - Wasn't it the duel with Mihawk that made Shanks a Yonkou? Maybe after he was a Yonkou, he helped the giants capture Loki.
shanks killed loki's father and blamde it on loki and chained him up then took the fruit who luffy later ate?
@@plainly_kevin Nice theory!
Real
That theory is solid
Shanks took the fruit from the navy so, someone from the navy killed him.
Nah that's all head cannon. I think shanks is not so great and he's the one that had Loki locked up. Or more like Loki got locked up because shanks is a good dude. # either way I hate shanks
22:30 if loki does join sanji would have the 5th highest bounty in the crew lol. zoro would love it.🤣🤣🤣
ODA LISTENED ROBIN HAS HER BANGS BACK HIGHLIGHT OF THIS CHAPTER
He literally said kizarus name once knowing he fast enough, strong enough, and can actually hurt gojo with his attacks, and giving gojo the advanced form of all haki when he it took him years to master his own ability and he literally had an instruction manual from all the previous users of his ability. The glazing was crazy in this video
Nice hat
What if kidd is the one to set Loki free? I'm sure they share a common hatred against shanks and keys can usually be attracted to magnets.
Loki will be significant to uranus 13:26
lmfao, that sentence rofl
I see, the sun disk your referring to
Uranus the planet, the God or ...?
Oda: introduces a new Charakter
Ohara: here's why the character joins the strawhats
Loki is definitely my favorite new villain since Katakiri.
I’ve got 2 theories that this video helped me think about more. One theory is that shanks could have stopped Loki and chained him up and his father was killed. I believe The King was a Yonko that was getting old and helped shanks become the next Yonko and tell him to find the hidden Devil Fruit that was replaced. Another theory I had was that JoyBoy was a Giant from ancient Elbaf. This is because Imu had a giant straw hat that JoyBoy could have worn and could symbolize the next Warrior Of Liberation. JoyBoy was an Elbaf giant and his fruit was supposed to be passed down every generation but wasn’t and instead was locked away and then given to the government to hide and then shanks found it. It’s why shanks had the hat. He was said to be the next JoyBoy but once Luffy ate the fruit he was given the hat to symbolize the next Warrior of Liberation.
These Theories could be debunked but I wanted to share my thoughts on what may happen in the future. And see how yall think of this
I haven't actually read the Manga so I could be a little off but the situation between Luffy and Loki is not dissimilar to when he first met Zoro strapped to a post. The dialogue seems to be a little different but both Loki and Zoro both spoke about killing pirates.
How about next nakama? I may be going overboard here but the idea is dope!
if the nika fruit was from elbaf and the previous user of the fruit was joyboy then mabye joyboy wasa giant and also indicating that there was the big strawhat with imu this backs it up even more
now i really feel like Shanks was talking to Gorosei about Loki when he said he has to talk about "a certain pirate", maybe his powers are that dangerous
Everyone in the comics: "Yeah, Loki is evil"
One californian dude: "Loki might be a good guy"
Roger’s illness is still a big mystery. Maybe Saul contracted the Rodger’s illness while researching the void century.
Loki will be like the MCU Loki, a bad guy that turns good
This is probably gonna be sinilar to the Impel Down arc with the layers.
And those mentions of Shanks meeting with the gorosei and possibly being evil suddenly makes me wonder if Shanks is actually Imu, like that would just be fucked up.
But of course it was a while since i saw that scene so i may be missing a few details that disprove it.
Buddy. That wasn’t shanks meeting with the Gorosei. They never once addressed him as shanks-they also intentionally *didn’t* show his left eye with the scar … Because it’s literally not shanks.
And no-shanks isn’t Imu. That’s absolutely ridiculous.
remember the giant who was able to shape shift, the daughter to the chef who was captured by the marines, just before punk hazard, fluffy stayed they should fight like that again, we may see her again on elbaf.
We're actually getting an entire arc based on Germanic/Nordic cultures and mythology in One Piece?! This is too awesome to be happening
I would hate to see it, but I’d also LOVE the story if it does go into shanks becoming or revealing his true intentions and not being a purely good or good at all character. A good ol betrayal is top tier.
wild guess, there could be 2 or even more nika fruits: it could be like in the story of dragonball where there are different dragoballs like we recently learned in Daima that there are dragon balls in the demon world. So maybe there are likewise fruit on the moon or other planets. . I know it would blow the whole story about devil fruits but.... who knows what Oda is cooking :D
Loki proposed to Lola and got turned downed , he's chained up seastone, and his bounty is in the billions mark. Oh wait he has eyes covered, by anime rules he's going to be something serious
"Chapter 1131, "said that so casually 😂
15:10 momonosuke got it and vegapunk also creates that by having kaidos DNA and it wasn't blue but pink momonosuke found it and ate but the government doesn't have Luffys DNA so that's not possible
Black beard isn't killing shanks. He's getting killed by Garland when he tried to make a deal with the elders. Garland is going to use him and his crew as a show of power and take him out.
Greenscreen < wholesome studio
Oda Is soooo good at storytelling
Loki!!! His appearance and calling himself the sun god can be the reason imu has the giant straw hat at mari joe
23:23 Dude said "blow me" straight up.
17:50 in my opinion since shanks told them to go get luffy maybe shanks just told them everything too so that's why they didn't question it
At least is confirmed that Loki has a very good Observation Haki to dodge a gear4 punch while blindfolded
Loki being chained up also makes me wonder if he's supposed to be a parallel to Baldr thereby being nigh invulnerable? Guess time will tell
nice helmet!
🙂
This is a video idea: what if there were no one piece to find. I know it might sound crazy but it’s a thing that I’ve been thinking about if Joy boy never had hid one piece on laughtale, how would the one piece world be like.h and what would happen to people like Luffy Roger and everybody else who were a pirate.
Fenrir, a child of Loki was also a cursed prince so to say. And also chained up
Imagine if 7 yrs ago the four emperors of the sea included
White Beard, Kaido, Big Mom, Loki
It would probably be Odin instead of loki, as he was still alive. I think Shanks helped Loki to kill Odin and then betrayed him and got the credits for everything. Especially because Elbaf is Shanks territory and very closed to the Lodestar island
Using my extensive knowledge of Norse mythology and One Piece, I have a theory:
Loki almost definitely ate a mythical zoan fruit. He also seems to have the morals and ambitions of Crocodile. A really shape-shifty mythical zoan, or like a fiery human mythical zoan? Or he turns into the beings that Norse Loki would shift into or the beings he had as offspring, like Jormungandr and Fenrir.
Luffy likes to fight, so he won't use Loki's offer. Makes me feel someone else will free him and send after Luffy, but that'll make plot weird and drawn out. I doubt that. But the girl giants said near Nami & Usopp that they and Hajrudin don't think Loki is the shame of Elbaf but rather Rodo is for being a weirdo (probably for playing with toys). Maybe any of these people will free him, but Luffy is definitely gonna do it for sure. He can do the haki things like at Wano prison.
Fenrir is supposed to being ragnarok, the end of the world. He gets chained by Tyr and loses his arm to Fenrir.
Shanks lost his arm to a beast, and he chained Loki. Loki wants to cause ragnarok, and I remember hearing about a Burning Man. Maybe Loki is based partly on Loki the god but also Sutur, which was a fiery giant that helped bring ragnarok. It says Loki ate a legendary devil fruit passed down the royal bloodline, maybe it's another hito hito no mi model fruit, and the name may be Sutur or something else. I suspect the fruit is related to the Sun God Nika, since the Nika story comes from Elbaf. If it's sutur, the fiery nature of it may be reminiscent of a sun god. Loki has some sun tattoos on his arms. I feel Loki reminds me of Crocodile, who isn't aspiring to destroy the world but just wants some vengeance and wants to rebuild Elbaf a certain way. Not a super bad guy but sort of bad. Shanks isn't bad I don't believe.
It still doesn't seem to me that Shanks is bad. I don't understand what people are getting their intel from to make that assumption.
I'm also curious what St. Garling's devil fruit transformation is. I feel he'll be involved in this, so his story or devil fruit may connect to Elbaf's story. Maybe the Navy stole the Nika fruit from Elbaf's royal family, and they replaced it with this other fruit, which is why Loki thinks he is the sun god. Remember Shanks seemed to have been to that bar already before in Elbaf.
If Loki's fruit causes fire, then I'd expect to see a burnt-up Elbaf. It isn't burnt anywhere we can see, so I'm unsure. His eyes being covered may be related to some devil fruit power or a special level of haki. Odin's eye could see the future I think, super good observation haki. Maybe Shanks and others had to cover his eyes to nerf him. By the way, Hajrudin seems important. Comes from a royal family, and he seems more like a Thor character.
Thor and Loki, Hajrudin and Loki, may actually end up working together against a bigger and badder enemy. Luffy may learn crazy haki from Loki a little, but I think Loki will be like Crocodile but ally with Luffy temporarily like Law. How would Luffy get him to not kill Shanks? Either Shanks isn't on Elbaf anymore, so no problem, or he fights Loki, giving us an epic fight. At the end, Loki cooperates with Straw Hats because he's useful to the plot and had an important devil fruit we don't know. What would we call a legendary df? Probably mythical zoan type. What is a power Norse Loki has? Shape-shifting, so that may be zoan. So it can be a human zoan or another kind of zoan, but this makes so much sense.
plot twist, shanks framed loki unaliving lokis father hee hee
I can't stop looking at the hat
21:34 i think bro loves robin💀
I'm seeing some Blackbeard and Doflamingo paralels here... Also, Oda likes to use eyes and glasses to represent worldview of people, in Loki's case they are hidden, meaning yeah, we arent supposed to be sure what's his deal yet. And innacurate judging by following hearsay is like half the story, the strawhats, Robin, Buggy, Crocodile, Doflamingo, the Navy... they all have apulic face different from what they are/were really about. Myth Loki wasnt evil per-se, he was a trickster that got into trouble but also helped the aesir on occasion... until the Baldr situation. So he might be about as neutral as Shanks is, with just a different presentation.
Video Idea: What would the Strawhats be without the timeskip? Yes they are weaker but everything they has done in the OG storyline would be 2 years ahead too so, Punk Hazard 2 years ago, is Law with Ceaser Clown? No Fugitora in Dressrosa? No Kimenkon and Momuske?? It’s a very interesting concept
Starting to see parallels between Shanks and Tyr/Odin as if he was meant to be a mish mash of the two. Which would make sense seeing as Loki seems to almost be a combination of Loki/Fenrir, destined to kill Shanks and forever imprisoned for an unforgivable crime (like the murder of Baldr).
Have the name of a Mythological God, a mythical zoan, hyped for a long time, important reputation in a warrior country, he'll 100% be cool
*Remember Orochi* He'll 99% be cool
@ohara minute 9:35 is that Arabic In the Loki representation ?! The letters are spelled seem to be D W N. Has anyone else noticed?
every one searches for the connection "6 years ago" but it is simply: Loki was the yonko at that time. Maybe not seen by himself or the other giants, but from the World Goverment perspective he was. Shanks defeated him and became the Yonko.
Oh shoot, you might be right…
Make sense as Luffy also normally runs into the main ally of a story arc before the main antagonist too
The possibility of the sun god/Nika being a giant since the sun god has been reference to a god in Elbaph and the giant straw hat
POV: Oda just trying to make something new while this guy is spoiling all of his plans
Oda:”QUICK WE NEED SOMETHING NEW! JUST MAKE ANYTHING!!!!”
I would love this conversation to be a foreshadowing of loki actually destroying the blackbeard pirates in return for luffy freeing him way later once luffy and him became friends.. sadly it would rob us of some highly anticipated straw hat vs blackbeard matchups
Loki ate the Hito Hito no Mi, Model Sol making Loki the Norse God of the Sun.
I think because navigator Road of the New Giant Warrior Pirates cosplayed as Loki with the deer mask I think Loki has the Leshy devil fruit an Eastern European demigod like creature who is the god of the forest which has a roaring voice this giant can merge with the forest and is part plant and can change size and is often adorned with a deer like skull and can control the animals of the forest I believe the sun powers stems from Loki's use of photosynthesis.
Imagine you've been captured and chained to a tree for 6 years then some random comes up and SITS ON YOUR LAP, yea id be hot too