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I’ve always dreamed about doing this... every time I drive by a construction site with pipes laying around I think man, how many drums I could make with that...
Hey man, came across your video here on the final day of my snare drum build. 13 by 6.5 deep. I'm excited to see how it turns out! I see that this is a few years ago but if you are interested or anyone else is interested I have several more shells worth of 13 diameter pvc.
Nice video! About 20 years ago, there was a company that made and sold PVC drums. They were very inexpensive (the shells were a bit thinner than this one), but Modern Drummer tested them and gave them an excellent review.
damn, i regret selling a 751 radial pro Peavey maple kit, was a classic, except for the glue came off on snare and one tom in the hot garage i had them in.
Anything mounted to any shell will dampen the shell. You should try a free floating shell build. My bet is it will be significantly better. Try a deeper shell like 6.5 or 8 and you will get a deeper sound with an excellent crack and rim shots.
As a musician and someone who worked in water and wastewater for over 20 years Watch for construction projects with pipe often the smaller pieces that are trimmed off to make a pipe run are just thrown away and you maybe able to acquire some PVC pieces that are being scrapped and trashed for little to nothing if you ask.
I see you’ve got your sticks laying on the floor next to your hi hat while playing that gig. I highly recommend a Vic Firth barreled stick holder that clamps on to your hi hat stand. You can fit 3 sets of sticks in that bad boy and is jointed so you can position your sticks at a perfect angle and height for you.
If you run it through a table saw and took out just the width of a saw kerf, you could hermetically seal the joint and close it with a tie down. It would reduce the diameter and once sanded and finished, you likely would barely see the joint at all.
Many years ago my dad worked for a compan that made fiberglass tanks for soft water systems and some of the tanks were thicker on one side and they couldn’t use those tanks so he brought them home and I made some tomtoms out of them plus lots of itching on my arms. They didn’t sound to bad.
Back in the 70's many of the big drum companies had fiberglass kits in their line up! In fact, the Fibes drum company took it's name from the word fiberglass! The North drums (the ones that look like upside-down tubas) are also made of fiberglass, and Pearl just re-introduced a line that incorporates a layer of fiberglass in the plies of the shell!
I want to build a kit with PVC that is thinner, wrap it with a super nice think walnut shell and stain it. I think I can do the whole 4 toms, 1 snare and kick drum for maybe 450$ with hardware. The idea would be to put me electric kit inside, basically make it look super nice and compact (smaller drums 18" kick and toms not as deep as standard). The sound will be dampened but I wonder if I can get a really nice DW look for a 10th the cost.
Great video. One of the things I like about the acrylic style drums is that they maintain there acoustics throughout time. A wood drum sounds great, but how about after years of humid concerts, basements, and or garages. Their density changes over time. Maybe I'm wrong. By the way...I play wood drums.
Wood breaths and the sound changes with temperature and humidity. But so do the heads thats why our kits need to be constantly retuned. Drum heads need to break in so to speak. I hate the couple of days after i change a head and play on it as it tends to change in pitch until it seats on the bearing edge and stretches. Guitars are the same way. They hate to cold. My guys will always let their gear warm up after being in a cold area so that they won't have to constantly retune while playing.
Also! I made a new PVC Snare, which is shown on my channel. This time, there is no processing on the snare mics, so you can really get a good hearing of it. :)
@@sallysez initially that's kind of what I was thinking too, but it seems like because it's an inconvenience to get ahold of PVC, especially in small increments, and it being relatively expensive if you get it precut, that a majority of drum builders don't really like that. On top of that, PVC drum is significantly heavier than your average shell. But I still do it anyway!
@@brdane Both yours and this snare have a nice sound. I have a fair amount of acrylic drums so I am used to the weight and projection plastic gives. Cool build on both parts.
@@sallysez Well thank you very much, friend. Been building more since then and fine tuning my full PVC set, seen on my channel. It's a work in progress. :)
I wondered if PVC was strong enough to deal with lug tension. I have heard octabans made from 6" OD PVC and they sound cool. Just use those obnoxious, heavy and huge DW style (Camco) turret lugs. Those things dampen any shell. Might need an HD dry for that one.
Maybe the Remo Classic Fit or Aquarian Modern Vintage heads may work well for this type of drum, as they are designed to fit the vintage over sized shells. I'd love to know if it would work to solve the issue, as I am looking into making one of these as well.
the reason that size PVC is so expensive is because it is schedule 80 PVC...PVC comes in to "thicknesses"...schedule 40, which is what you see at home depot, and schedule 80 which is used in pressure applications...if all you're going to do is drain something or pipe up your spa, schedule 40 is all you need...for any pressure industrial or plant use, schedule 80 is going to be required...and you're right--it is incredibly expensive....if you're working with schedule 80, you NEVER throw any except the smallest scraps away...and, no, do not expect anyone EVER to give you an "extra" piece...
No it's not a Black Beauty or a Starphonic but I don't think it sounds at all hateful and that's without high end recording equipment. I'd definitely play it. Nice job!
Pete Green Productions no worries, I need a new throw off for my snare but I think as well as that I’ll buy some hardware and a length of 14” pipe and make a snare of my own, maybe a piccolo snare too?
@@seeteasea5497 Cool man! Good luck with it! I would recommend you use double-sided snare lugs (as opposed to the single sided style lugs I used) because in the months since I finished building mine, I've noticed that the PVC isn't strong enough to withstand the high tension, and so, my lugs have moved, and the mounting holes are now oval shaped and a bit cracked... I think I would've been better off using double sided tube lugs or something.
Pete Green Productions thanks for the tip bud, I appreciate it! I will most definitely go with the double ended lugs! Will look into techniques for strengthening the plastic if possible! Thanks for the heads up 👍🏴
Dude! That's a really cool build! I would think it's very quick in it's responsiveness because of the consistency in density of the pvc and the smooth service.
To be honest, it's actually not very responsive... It's also not very dynamic, and quite difficult to achieve a tight, high pitch. However, it's amazing at medium-low tuning, for a super fat 70's/80's backbeat sound!
I had an old 1950s Gretsch kit with a real thick wrap. The heads were like this. Tight. First time I detuned it I took the hoops off. It was still in tune. Yep. You can tune a tight head up. But if you decide you've tuned too high.... well I had to punch the shell to pop the head off. Not the easiest of drums I ever had to tune.
What a nice surprise. This is a great video, Pete. Precision Drum Co. made me a 4"x10" single head tom and a 4"x13" snare drum. Some of the prettiest shells I've ever seen. I think they're made by a company called Kellar. Always wanted to hear a PVC drum, though!
Amazing sound, I once thought about doing drums from pvc, but pvc is measured in inside diameter and a wood shell is measured outside diameter. But Congratulations on your snare.
Snare Cracked when first hit.... Sounds Crisp.. or is it the head.... PVC... Whole set.... I'm looking out for it... stationary of course...I know it's a bit heavy
As for PVC for a shell, couplings might be the cheaper way to go versus chasing pipe. A 14" coupling should have about a 15" outer diameter; a 12" coupling would be about 13" (13" PVC pipe does not exist...after 6" they only make even sizes, and they don't make 22", just 20" and 24"). However, they are NOT cheap.
I like that you didnt fully wrap the PVC.... and those lugs look a lot like my Mapex V Series... my lugs are a single screw lug but at the top there's this rounded piece that doesnt go fully through the drum. I was wondering is it all snare lugs dont have rubber gaskets around their lugs or is there a reason for not having them? Aside from lack of material. Currently I'm rebuilding a mapex v series kit 4 rack toms and 1 floor tom. (I'm not messing with the snare) I have wood filler to put down on the bass drum and various other Tom's and some light sanding. I saw what looked like a boom arm with a towel wrapped around it. Or is that something else? I need a good space to do some sanding (both inside and outside the shells.) I like the snare sound, I also like your snare tie offs. I think that's pretty clever. Great job with the lugs and lining everything up. You made it look easy lol. Im just wondering how much of a difference the rubber gaskets on the hardware would make? If any at all? Aside from not putting little marks on the PVC.
The hats are 16" Sabian HHX Groove hats I custom ordered. The top is 950 grams, and the bottom is 1150 grams. The crashes are both HHX X-plosion, 18 and 19 inches. And the ride is a 22" Zildjian K dark medium.
The TH-cam algorithm sucks. I’m a drummer, who also builds drums, but your channel hasn’t been put in my feed until now. So I subscribed, and I hope you can post some more content.
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I’ve always dreamed about doing this... every time I drive by a construction site with pipes laying around I think man, how many drums I could make with that...
Bruh, true tho.
Damn! I just caught this!! Five years late....LOL! I"ve been wanting to do this for years. I think I'm gonna start my search. That thing was amazing!
Thanks so much! Be sure to watch parts 2 and 3. I ultimately used the shell in a free-floating frame.
best build demo i have seen. Imaginative drum design, clear explanation, nice demonstration of the instrument played, nice production
Thanks so much!
Hey man, came across your video here on the final day of my snare drum build. 13 by 6.5 deep. I'm excited to see how it turns out! I see that this is a few years ago but if you are interested or anyone else is interested I have several more shells worth of 13 diameter pvc.
Nice video! About 20 years ago, there was a company that made and sold PVC drums. They were very inexpensive (the shells were a bit thinner than this one), but Modern Drummer tested them and gave them an excellent review.
Yes! That was Ugly Percussion. Biggest regret of my musical life was selling mine.
damn, i regret selling a 751 radial pro Peavey maple kit, was a classic, except for the glue came off on snare and one tom in the hot garage i had them in.
I bet it's very loud being so thick and heavy. I would love to make an entire drum set out of PVC.
It is loud! That's for sure!
Taiv
Damn! Sounds great. Articulate, with or without the dampening ring. Got the impression it's loud too.
This video was so inspiring. Would love to see you build an entire kit. Also would love to see you make an 8×14" deep snare.
Remo sells vintage-sized (slightly larger) heads. Apparently, back in the day shells *were* true to size.
Anything mounted to any shell will dampen the shell. You should try a free floating shell build. My bet is it will be significantly better. Try a deeper shell like 6.5 or 8 and you will get a deeper sound with an excellent crack and rim shots.
Yes, try free floating….or even an interior coat of your own super-sealer to hear how it goes….
As a musician and someone who worked in water and wastewater for over 20 years Watch for construction projects with pipe often the smaller pieces that are trimmed off to make a pipe run are just thrown away and you maybe able to acquire some PVC pieces that are being scrapped and trashed for little to nothing if you ask.
excelent Work ! sound and look great ! thanks for share
Sounds fairly decent, worked out well!!
Nice playing, great groove !
I see you’ve got your sticks laying on the floor next to your hi hat while playing that gig. I highly recommend a Vic Firth barreled stick holder that clamps on to your hi hat stand. You can fit 3 sets of sticks in that bad boy and is jointed so you can position your sticks at a perfect angle and height for you.
If you run it through a table saw and took out just the width of a saw kerf, you could hermetically seal the joint and close it with a tie down. It would reduce the diameter and once sanded and finished, you likely would barely see the joint at all.
Many years ago my dad worked for a compan that made fiberglass tanks for soft water systems and some of the tanks were thicker on one side and they couldn’t use those tanks so he brought them home and I made some tomtoms out of them plus lots of itching on my arms. They didn’t sound to bad.
Back in the 70's many of the big drum companies had fiberglass kits in their line up! In fact, the Fibes drum company took it's name from the word fiberglass! The North drums (the ones that look like upside-down tubas) are also made of fiberglass, and Pearl just re-introduced a line that incorporates a layer of fiberglass in the plies of the shell!
I think its a cool build. Impressive sound for pvc. I also recognize the Empire casino stage. Played many hour long set's there.
Ha! You're right! That's Empire casino. I'm playing there tonight, too, in fact!
@@petegreendrummer I'm playing the Downtown in Red bank tonight. Have a great show sir. From one weekend warrior to another..
@@ryandonohue152 Ah cool! One of my band mates works at the Downtown!
Nice job! Thanks for sharing with us!
mmmm...that acrylic shell is beautiful.
I like the sound Pete.
Great job Pete, also your a good player, just great!....
Thanks man!
Great video! I want to make my own PVC snare drum now. Thanks!
I want to build a kit with PVC that is thinner, wrap it with a super nice think walnut shell and stain it. I think I can do the whole 4 toms, 1 snare and kick drum for maybe 450$ with hardware. The idea would be to put me electric kit inside, basically make it look super nice and compact (smaller drums 18" kick and toms not as deep as standard). The sound will be dampened but I wonder if I can get a really nice DW look for a 10th the cost.
Sounds like a great idea! Make a youtube video as you build it, and link it here when it's up! Good luck!
Sounded great
Great video. One of the things I like about the acrylic style drums is that they maintain there acoustics throughout time. A wood drum sounds great, but how about after years of humid concerts, basements, and or garages. Their density changes over time. Maybe I'm wrong. By the way...I play wood drums.
Wood breaths and the sound changes with temperature and humidity. But so do the heads thats why our kits need to be constantly retuned. Drum heads need to break in so to speak. I hate the couple of days after i change a head and play on it as it tends to change in pitch until it seats on the bearing edge and stretches. Guitars are the same way. They hate to cold. My guys will always let their gear warm up after being in a cold area so that they won't have to constantly retune while playing.
@@michaelwilson6806 yeah. That's why it's a bad idea to put on new b heads on recording day
Yes it does affect the tuning if it does not sit properly ( the drumhead)🇨🇦🇨🇦
That's great! Glad that the piece worked for you! Loved the way you built it and I'm sorry I didn't use bubble wrap! Absolute great job, Pete. :)
Also! I made a new PVC Snare, which is shown on my channel. This time, there is no processing on the snare mics, so you can really get a good hearing of it. :)
@@brdane Cue the flood of requests for PVC!
@@sallysez initially that's kind of what I was thinking too, but it seems like because it's an inconvenience to get ahold of PVC, especially in small increments, and it being relatively expensive if you get it precut, that a majority of drum builders don't really like that. On top of that, PVC drum is significantly heavier than your average shell. But I still do it anyway!
@@brdane Both yours and this snare have a nice sound. I have a fair amount of acrylic drums so I am used to the weight and projection plastic gives. Cool build on both parts.
@@sallysez Well thank you very much, friend. Been building more since then and fine tuning my full PVC set, seen on my channel. It's a work in progress. :)
oh man - awesome! and even decorated! - dude its really cool! just goes to show that the drum shell is just a support for a drumhead ...
Snare looks and sounds friggin beautiful!!!! I want!
being in a 90's cover band is more awesome than one would think
You're god-damned right it is! =)
awesome job on the drum too
I wondered if PVC was strong enough to deal with lug tension. I have heard octabans made from 6" OD PVC and they sound cool. Just use those obnoxious, heavy and huge DW style (Camco) turret lugs. Those things dampen any shell. Might need an HD dry for that one.
Maybe the Remo Classic Fit or Aquarian Modern Vintage heads may work well for this type of drum, as they are designed to fit the vintage over sized shells. I'd love to know if it would work to solve the issue, as I am looking into making one of these as well.
Thanks Casey, I've never tried a Remo classic fit, but I have used an Aquarian Vintage, and yes, I do think it would fit better than regular heads.
I was going to say the same!
the reason that size PVC is so expensive is because it is schedule 80 PVC...PVC comes in to "thicknesses"...schedule 40, which is what you see at home depot, and schedule 80 which is used in pressure applications...if all you're going to do is drain something or pipe up your spa, schedule 40 is all you need...for any pressure industrial or plant use, schedule 80 is going to be required...and you're right--it is incredibly expensive....if you're working with schedule 80, you NEVER throw any except the smallest scraps away...and, no, do not expect anyone EVER to give you an "extra" piece...
Good info helps me keep an open mind about what to use😊
No it's not a Black Beauty or a Starphonic but I don't think it sounds at all hateful and that's without high end recording equipment. I'd definitely play it. Nice job!
Stellar, Killin looks too
Great job
Looks freakn beautiful man.
Thanks man!
Sensational perfect👏👏👏
That is a pretty drum I must say
Thanks man!
Pete Green Productions no worries, I need a new throw off for my snare but I think as well as that I’ll buy some hardware and a length of 14” pipe and make a snare of my own, maybe a piccolo snare too?
@@seeteasea5497 Cool man! Good luck with it! I would recommend you use double-sided snare lugs (as opposed to the single sided style lugs I used) because in the months since I finished building mine, I've noticed that the PVC isn't strong enough to withstand the high tension, and so, my lugs have moved, and the mounting holes are now oval shaped and a bit cracked... I think I would've been better off using double sided tube lugs or something.
Pete Green Productions thanks for the tip bud, I appreciate it! I will most definitely go with the double ended lugs! Will look into techniques for strengthening the plastic if possible! Thanks for the heads up 👍🏴
6/8 made me smile.
Dude! That's a really cool build! I would think it's very quick in it's responsiveness because of the consistency in density of the pvc and the smooth service.
To be honest, it's actually not very responsive... It's also not very dynamic, and quite difficult to achieve a tight, high pitch. However, it's amazing at medium-low tuning, for a super fat 70's/80's backbeat sound!
@@petegreendrummer Interesting, I wonder if that's because of the flexible nature of the pvc
Wow! It has a very clicky sound but I think thats killer! Great job!
That's a great idea!!!Thanks
I had an old 1950s Gretsch kit with a real thick wrap. The heads were like this. Tight. First time I detuned it I took the hoops off. It was still in tune. Yep. You can tune a tight head up. But if you decide you've tuned too high.... well I had to punch the shell to pop the head off. Not the easiest of drums I ever had to tune.
nice sound
Wow that's cool!
What a nice surprise. This is a great video, Pete. Precision Drum Co. made me a 4"x10" single head tom and a 4"x13" snare drum. Some of the prettiest shells I've ever seen. I think they're made by a company called Kellar. Always wanted to hear a PVC drum, though!
Thanks man!
Sounds great for the purpose that you built it for. Very good job.
Sweet snare. Looks great.
Wow! Amazing.
Nice brother!!!!!
Sounds killin on "Breakfast."
Very nice,good for you.
Amazing sound, I once thought about doing drums from pvc, but pvc is measured in inside diameter and a wood shell is measured outside diameter. But Congratulations on your snare.
Thanks so much man! But be sure to check out parts 2 and 3 of this snare build... It didn't turn out so good!
Looks good sounds good 👍
Love it! Sounds great too
Thanks man!
Snare Cracked when first hit.... Sounds Crisp.. or is it the head.... PVC... Whole set.... I'm looking out for it... stationary of course...I know it's a bit heavy
pretty badass
Great work. Shared to my people.
Awesome/creative project! Very cool
Thanks!
Good job buddy ...sounds very good
Looks great!!
Wow I'm impressed! From what I could hear it had a nice crack and cut through the mix just fine! Crazy!
Are you going to build a whole set?
Love it and thanks for the tips!
Brilliant!!
Awesome! Great job.
Awesome!
Very Diy
Great work on building the snare drum and sounds awesome.
Love the creativity. Great job. Keep up the good work.
sounds great and it very cool look. Great work!
Great job bro...the snare looks great..
Nice job, the drum looks great!
Thanks!
I think this would be great in making an e drum kit. I may do a video and try it Maybe
Great job on that snare looks great and sounds good!
Amaaaaziin!
sounds great
nice work
Upila Perera thanks man!
I hope to build one soon
Can’t go wrong with pvc when constructing a quick and dirty set to attack your trigger
Bass Cams are funny!!😂🤣
You should see him do his Psy impression when we cover Gangnam Style!
It reminds me of the "Hip to be square" vid from Huey Lewis & the News.
Great snare build!!!
brilliant stuff pete!!
Thanks man!
As for PVC for a shell, couplings might be the cheaper way to go versus chasing pipe. A 14" coupling should have about a 15" outer diameter; a 12" coupling would be about 13" (13" PVC pipe does not exist...after 6" they only make even sizes, and they don't make 22", just 20" and 24"). However, they are NOT cheap.
I want an entire drum set made from PVC now :D
Very cool Brother
Wow! Amazing! Nice one Bro
Very nice project. I noticed that the drum you use in the live misses the central wider silver line, is it the same drum? Thank you
Well done. Even on the phone videos you can tell that thing cuts.
I live in NJ too
You probably could have used a router to cut down the diameter of the shell, and cut your bearing edges as well.
Not asking you to disclose the actual cost, but you can get new snaredrum plied shells for $35-40, and I'm wondering if it was more or less than that?
It was more. But considering the cost of a 5 foot tube, it was reasonable!
Damn fine job.
Very very good.muito bom ,essa dica foi incrível,irei fazer o mesmo thank you very much.muuto obrigado.
Sounds great live. Nice build my friend.
In the gig scenes, what happened to the middle stripe? It had three, now only two?
Good eye! I filmed it out of order.
I like that you didnt fully wrap the PVC.... and those lugs look a lot like my Mapex V Series... my lugs are a single screw lug but at the top there's this rounded piece that doesnt go fully through the drum. I was wondering is it all snare lugs dont have rubber gaskets around their lugs or is there a reason for not having them? Aside from lack of material. Currently I'm rebuilding a mapex v series kit 4 rack toms and 1 floor tom. (I'm not messing with the snare) I have wood filler to put down on the bass drum and various other Tom's and some light sanding. I saw what looked like a boom arm with a towel wrapped around it. Or is that something else? I need a good space to do some sanding (both inside and outside the shells.) I like the snare sound, I also like your snare tie offs. I think that's pretty clever. Great job with the lugs and lining everything up. You made it look easy lol. Im just wondering how much of a difference the rubber gaskets on the hardware would make? If any at all? Aside from not putting little marks on the PVC.
can i ask what brand of cymbals are you using i like the crispness
The hats are 16" Sabian HHX Groove hats I custom ordered. The top is 950 grams, and the bottom is 1150 grams. The crashes are both HHX X-plosion, 18 and 19 inches. And the ride is a 22" Zildjian K dark medium.
@@petegreendrummer real great sound thanks.. A fan here from Philippines
@@terbgarcia7125 Thanks!
This is awesome!! Great build!
You should invest in a zoom q2.
I think it sounds great. I'll take it if you don't want it.