Are Chinese Workaholics? | The 996 Work Culture - Intermediate Chinese - Chinese Conversation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2020
- How could Jack Ma go from being one of China's most admired businessmen to one of it's most disliked - at least among China's young, white collar workers? His views on the work ethics young Chinese should embrace, might offer you a clue!
In this podcast, Eileen and Xiao Feng discuss China's work culture, especially with focus on the 996 phenomenon.
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You have a real talent for interviewing, Eileen, and a natural charisma. I've written this before, but you and your partner should market this channel as one that gives information and insight into modern China, as well as being a language learning channel. I have had people tell me they skipped over this channel when looking for information about China, because they thought it was 'just' a language learning channel.
I'm one of those who used to skip over their channel, but now that I finally clicked their videos, it has really grown into me =))
@DanS Couldn't agree more!! A "natural" next step, so to speak! 👍🙂
I think she has a wide knowledge
I really think this is far beyond so called "Intermediate Chinese". I think in this video (and all other recent videos), conversations are all natural (which is for me, the highest level for language learners) in both expressions and speaking speed, but they are still understandable and interesting for learners.
There are many channels out there in TH-cam teaching Chinese, but nearly all of them targets for the beginner level, which is meaningless for somewhat advanced learners like me. There are few channels that target advanced learner like this channel. I know that targeting advanced learners is much harder and also bad in term of profit, but I somewhat believe that your channel is the only channel I know so far, have some interesting things for advanced learner at the moment. In the past, there is CSLPOD, but they have stopped updating new content their site a long time ago.
Are you subscribed to them? If so, how do you use the resources?
How many words and characters do you think you know and can say you're advanced. Thanks.
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@@josephhill2868 For me, the HSK 6 marks the beginning of so-called Chinese advanced level. Vocabulary of HSK 6 should be around 5000. Han charaters, for me, don't matter.
If a video contains many words that are not in the 5000 words of HSK6, and the speaking speed is more natural than the listening test of HSK6, I consider that video "advanced level".
@@Pblaze12 Many thanks for your insight and thoughts. Wishing you all the best in your future studies.
Wow! These are amazing for learning .Really appreciating the pinyin + hanzi + English translations.
I love this new format!!! Your content is getting more and more amazing. 谢谢你们！
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there is more to life than work and money...
When people are barely surviving?
@@sppss914 When someone says he bought a car and he bought a house/ flat and that's why needs to work overtime everyday it's not barely surviving. It's buying more than you can actually afford.
it's people's freedom to choose their life style.so you cannot say what is should to do
Yeah like raising children!
There are many people who don't have the privilege to live like this. Please try to be less ignorant
Another great video with an interesting discussion. Eileen is so honest in talking about herself and her experiences. The questions and topics are equally applicable to other countries and cultures. Even if I weren't studying Chinese, this would still be great!
Are you subscribed to MC? How do you use the resources?
@@wanderingdoc5075 I have been a subscriber since late 2018. I use the pdf text from the MC site, the different HSK vocab videos, the grammar, etc. I sometimes listen without looking at the video so I can concentrate on hearing the pronunciation. Repetition. I listen or watch the videos multiple times. Has my Chinese improved? Yes. Am I good at Chinese? Still at the survival level but more confident.
This constant upload of new videos is so great. It really helps me to keep on practicing and learning. Thank you Eileen :)
I really love your content! Your hard work is very obvious and extremely useful for us. I donated to you last week. I would encourage the study fellows to support you as well! Best regards from Germany!
This was so informative, not only for language learning but also for cultural content! You’re both well spoken and keep an intriguing conversation going. Thank you, and I’ll stay tuned to your shows from now on!
Truly the best channel ever for intermediate/advanced learners. These podcasts are great! Keep up the good work Eileen! Greetings from Poland :)
Thank you so much for all of your hard work, Eileen. I have been studying the Mandarin language for about five years, and I live with two students from China. They don't usually have time to help me though, so I rely on your lessons every day to help me. Soon I hope to come to China to Teach English, and I am sure that I will rely on your lessons. The topics are always very succinct and relevant ! I am going to finally pay the 10. now, and of course, it's way too little for all of your time. Thanks again ! ~ Gavin
謝謝你們，這個話題很有趣的！我們住在發達國家的話就很幸運，平常沒有966的條件。當然加班對個人心理和健康不好，但我覺得你們也提到一個對社會很重要的壞處，就是人民沒有時間休息的時候，他們也沒空間創作，創業，幫助國家進一步發展。
希望你們看得懂！加油Eileen，每次超級喜歡你的內容！
Really think this podcast format is the way to go. Much more natural, and functional way of learning the language and on the side get to hear some interesting points and ideas. Pls more of this!!!
thank'you Mandarin Corner! im currently learning mandarin and this podcast is very helpful for me to learn new words.
What an informative and insightful interview. Way more advanced than my current Mandarin skills, but I encountered a lot of vocabulary I'm currently working on for HSK Lvl 4. Well done, Eileen, thank you!
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Thank you so much for the videos! The subtitles and the great interviews help me alot in learning Mandarin. 你的视频太棒了哦！ 希望你能坚持努力， 也祝得到你的梦。
I love this format!! Thank you Eileen!
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謝謝你高級的視頻，你能夠一邊提供美好的教材，一邊也幫我們外國人達到更理解中國文化的狀態，而且平常會啟發自己的思維。繼續下去！！！
This is the best learning mandarin channel! 你们是最棒学中文的TH-camchannel
Love these podcasts! They're just what I needed!
i love the format, i do not only learn the idiom but i can get to know the culture, best channel!
在中国生活了5年多，找到富有挑战性的中文文章、视频或录音真的不容易。你的TH-cam频道真棒！
This is really the best format! Thanks for existing!!!
This is amazing! I regularly follow your videos. You are doing great.
Absolutely fascinating topics as always!
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Sounds great! Are the transcripts in Chinese, Pinyin and English like the videos?
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Hi Eileen, thank you for keep making great quality podcast for us! Just one question though, have you ever considered posting your podcast on spotify? Cause I think it is a great platform for people to get access to your content on the go ^^
I love these podcasts! Great way to learn
非常有用， 谢谢！
Xiao feng has a nice hair style this time. It makes him look younger big time. By the way I love his approach and personality.
A very interesting video! It's great to hear the voices of young Chinese people on current issues. Please make more videos like this :)
I love this formate. 谢谢 你们
Great content as always, I'm loving the guests, they really give insight on different issues
You never cease to leave me speechless Eileen🥰 Would it be possible to have versions of these videos without the pinyin?🤔
Eileen you are great! Not only your channel helps with the language learning process but you give us insights about the chinese modern culture too. A tip for improvement though : you could try to improve the guests sound because they usually don't sound clearly. Thank you as always and I hope you become more and more succesful!
This is an incredible resource .Thanks so much. Presenter is terrific
Eileen&晓峰老师们，I've been listening more and more to your interesting podcast-video on the
九九六 working-system (I wonder whether it can be really defined "culture"...🤔) and "surroundings", and I'll come back once more on it in order to tell you a few words about one of my own past experiences related to this topic. Everything you have told us in details I had the chance (!) to taste (!) little time at the beginning of this century (!) in my country, when I found a temporary job in a middle-sized enterprise, - 20 people being employed there or even less! - dealing with Fashion brands, lots orders, events, etc.
Behind the mask of an harmonizing and target-minded "Family,", a fierce concurrency ran through at each level of the firm structure, from the bottom, among the girls working there, to the top, even between the boss and his wife, namely the Commercial Director, who were in the habit not only to patetically taking on a paternalistic attitude towards all the members of their "Family", but to mingle private quarrels with businness and making-decision as well! In Italy - thanks God! - the standard working-time is 8 hours per day, and this is an overall rule formally applied everywhere, in the Public, as well in the Private sectors. The practice though, expecially in this last one segment, is far away under control! Over-time work is generally well-payed, no doubt, but this is not even the reason why the girls suddenly or gradually as a rule were used to find themselves fighting among themselves, engaged in a match, or race, in which was safe only that, who used to came to work earlier and earlier in the morning and go out later and later in the evening! And similarly, during all the ordinary work-time round, an under-hand, sneaky, deceitful game was being constantly played, in which, according to the circumstances, new temporary alliances were so suddenly created, as suddenly chanced, in order just TO SURVIVE!.... As, needless to say, the Enemy, threatening all the time to rebuke, punish you, every way to mortify you, and finally to sack you, was constantly in ambush, as it was not difficult to find a substitute among your collegues, or take on one, just at the beginning in Part-time treatment, new-entry!
These are just a few, well-known to everybody, examples of the SILENT rules dominating our Work-Paradise!
And in most cases people who have a family, expecially women, who sometimes have to bring up, in few cases even alone, their sons, are OBLIGED to pass through all that! Why? Because they cannot allow to remain jobless untill an indefinite time before to find another job, which could prove itself even worse! God knows!...
THE END
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As you can see I'm a little angry 😠 this evening, in addition today for the 1st time I've been asking myself: - How patient shall you need to be to learn Chinese well?.....!
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These videos are great！ 谢谢
Can we get more talks with Xiao Feng? It’s a really great format:)
EILEEN, YOU ARE THE BEST! *THANK YOU* !!!
Excellent learning material!
Fantastic videos. I wish you had started these videos 20 years ago. I would have made much greater strides then. I have shared out these videos all around the place.
By the way you are welcome to France anytime you like. Keep up the good work!! Ian (half britsh/Half french)
Hey, I like your format!. I can pause the video on a di everytime I need to pick up more vocabulary.
謝謝， 我欣赏你们 比此对话。 让我近步我的中文的听力和写字。
Hi Eileen, hi 晓峰！我是刚刚听完你们视频的！ ... In this Podcast-video you've touched a big question of fundamental importance! In order to try to share with you my opinion in Chinese, I shall have to spend some time on it! However, and by the way, here is the first point: I can study even all day round every day and be tired before night, but very satisfied and happy in the maintime, as I'm doing something I like and/or I'm interested in very much, in addition I'm doing it for myself's sake, for my own personal growth (not in terms of cm units! 😁)! Even though I get no salary for it!
But one overworking rule may not be applied indiscriminately to each kind of work, at any level, - while it is usually applied especially at the lower manpower levels!
In short, I thing MODERN society instead of discussing about increasing the amount of work-hours and offering the input for a sauvage, UNnatural (!) competition among workers (always existing even in the most compacted and target-aimed working-team!), already under pressure owing to their living needs, should start thinking to REALLY create or help creating job opportunities for EVERYONE (not just the few "blessed" ones!) by REDUCING the work-time and first of all with the aim to improve the QUALITY of LIFE of everyone.... This would be the only REAL PROFIT anywhere in the world, and with any kind of ADVANTAGES, with the only real re-investment effects for the overall society improvement and development!....
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Great ! thank for your video 💗💗💗
Thank you for this excellent content! Im happy to learn more about Chinese culture and society,
Eileen感谢你的视频。我们生活在21世纪， 但是这加班的情况世界上仍然很普遍。
Very intersting topic. Charming
谢谢Eileen，谢谢晓峰，学到很多知识！您们也注意好身体健康吧！赞 👍
在美国还好没有996的概念，听起来真可怕哦。可是我认为，相比欧洲那些国家，美国也是比较重视在工作努力。我发现欧洲一些国家的员工每年的确具有很多休息天！
晓峰说的那段，就是一种在工作上的”潜规则“，这我也能确认。当时我以前在互联网行业当程序员，我体验过这个现象。随着同事们都在辛辛苦苦地努力而自愿加班，如果你个人轻松一点，就会怀疑你是不是相对不在用功，而怕老板也会看表面觉得是这样。所以在公司里，虽然老板没吩咐加班，还是有许多同事都会加入小时完成任务。好在没有甚至到996的程度。
依我看，"work-life balance" 还是是非常重要的。假如没有，真的会影响自己的健康而心里状态。一直不停地围绕工作有可能会让人觉得人生就是这么空虚，没别的意义。总的来说，能达到work-life balance是理想的情况。听起来，在中国肯定很多人绝对没有办法不做996的工作。我觉得真的很悲惨
Always super interesting and useful content!! Thanks so much!! 👏
很感谢你们的太辛勤
Great video once more, thank you Eileen! Did you ever consider making a grammar video about all these 出来，出去，起来 etc. endings, or did I just miss it? Would definitely be helpful!
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Maybe you're talking about resultative verb endings? Here is the video!
@@MandarinCorner2 thanks for your reply! I saw the video you mentioned (which is really great and helpful too), but it's not what I meant. I mean these 出来，起来，过来 etc. endings, like 说出来，忙不过来 etc.
I work for a chinese company in the southern US. The work culture is definitely different and this can create many problems between our chinese and American staff if not constantly addressed and explained. Thanks for the video.
you might want to check out American Factory, a Netflix documentary about a situation similar to yours. It's a great watch
You are doing very nice job, god bless you. Thank you.
EXERCISE - УПРАЖНЕНИЕ
给大家：
1) 最近发生的事情比过去发生的那些呢严重很多.
1)То, что случилось недавно это более серьёзное чем случившееся в прошлом.
2)有时候是原因比后果严重的. 2) Причины иногда тяжелее впоследствиий.
3)在现代社会一般来说到处加班加比较普遍的.
3) Сегодня в обществе, вообще говоря, сверхурочная работа довольно/гораздо распастранена.
（不错吗？）
谢谢🙏
Thanks!💐
Your content is outstanding
Thanks for this inside look into the over time working cuture. From my personal life I can confirm that working time when it is a community effort toward a goal, meaning we all working hard to meat a promise made to a client for example. This is a good thing and it will defenetely strenghten the over all feeling of being a team. The sole reason for that is that this effort has a forseeable end.
The harmful way of using 996 is exactly as you described as well. Abusing workers by actually manipulating them. Indeed ignoring the universal nature of all things which is the need for balance.
我跟别的评价者同意，我觉得这种对话模板尤其是对比较前进的同学很有价值。不但是主题和例子很有意思，而且语言水平的难度也不过分，而是够高。因为编辑很好（Eileen你的腰痛还是有好效果xD，反正希望你能保持后背的健康）有字幕和翻译学到新词和说法非常方便。谢谢呀！
哈，为了做出好视频，我就牺牲一下我的腰吧。
@@MandarinCorner2 太勤奋啦！
I’m following this series of podcast on my way to work as a way to improve my listening and vocabulary and I don’t know later on but I hope Kirk can slow down a little.
Following Eileen’s speech speed would be great.
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这样的podcast很好啊！可不可以放在Spotify？
谢谢
Xiao Feng is a great guest. Interesting views and good pronunciation. Greetings from Germany
Thank you
The picture on video cheated me, I thought you have interviewed Jack Ma.
I really like your topics. You are really a talented teacher. Respect and love from Pakistan.
Really thanks^^
Xie Xie for the video! Very interesting! I wonder what would happen if an employee would tell his/her boss that he/she wasn't going to do the overtime work that is needed?
我作为汉语新生有没个中文经理的，但是你同晓峰, 你们中国话是真的漂亮，好听的！像音乐啊！ ⛲
是不是我有这样印象的因为你们讲把真正的普通话吗？还是 难道很容易是北方口语的呢!? ❄️
AMAZING GUYS!!!!!
那这么漂亮 （又好听又好读... 也好翻译成意大利语！）晓峰他用的用语和说法呀！
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这就是高质视频👍🏼👍🏼!!
Thanks!
I have a question, how are u able to use TH-cam ? .... love the video ♥️ I hope Chinese stop with 996 ! And live their life’s
T.y for this interesting interview
Hello, could you add Chinese CC? I would like to import it from TH-cam into LingQ so that I can have the audio and transcript synced together. Thanks!
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《没有时间》..... 对，跟这句子我以前是很熟悉的！当中学生时，我最好朋友中有的说出来....
尤其是我最好女朋友... 她没喜欢学习，而且有弟弟和妹妹，及其家里没有太多钱... 她当时学着不好，第二学年终于放弃了.... 早日从事打工... 这样的左右也另外一个女朋友.... 过了一会儿一群这类型人站起来边地说着....
反而我很喜欢学习，只有我当时已经平时抱怨着，因为没办法学很好，加上没办法找到对象，家里有问题，到底没有很多好的朋友，我很不舒服.... 中学毕业后 实际上我离开他们....
新的生活当大学生开始啦！
但自从我重要的选择时间我出现一整天月年孤独嘛...我平时跑来跑去,上大学回来家，座公交车... 还没有很多时间学习很好. 但我想要学最好早日学完来找到合用的工作及去自己的喜欢活....
那然后，很容易没办法找到这样的工作....到结婚的选择....
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待续
Eileen, 什么时候你跟晓峰来一起讨论在新个视频就是新个热门，蛮有意思的话题？（你们大概很忙呢？）
虽然我还没有学到你所有视频的所有词汇，用语，语句，说法, 等等，我慢慢得🐌继续都学了！
算了学汉语很难嘛，特别口语说话嘛，每你们讲话真是给我有力地促进！那么，再见很快了！
I'LL FOLLOW YOU! 🖤
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Please also make a video about,how to complement about fashionable person or fashion designer vecabulary.
This is a good video😍
谢谢你啊，学了很多新词语
thanks
超赞！
Eileen, help me! I realized just now that instead of 我是很 感兴趣, I must have written to you and 晓峰 some funny stuff! I took one pair of wrong 字！
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learning Chinese is hard work for me - but you make it FUN !
I am confident with your videos and your Patreon material I will succeed (before I had almost given up)
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my guess is I would have paid $HK800 you paid $HK160 :)
your most useful video for me is "30 office items" - it must have taken a LOT of effort
again, many many thanks for the massive amount of work you are doing to help us learn chinese without the PAIN !
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Pleaae makes more video, i am every waiting for your video, i don't want to miss your any video.
I say this You have to work to Live, not to live to work, 6 or 9 hour in work it is ok to one people I think it that and that is a tremendous theme of your part thanks so much for it
Eileen, 晓峰,
I cannot find the exact meaning of the verb 包装 you've used here (77th sentence). Could you help me?
我不会看到你们用的在这儿(弟七十七句话) 动词
包装.
你们可不可以帮我吗？
I'm not chinese, but I support all chinese who oppose the madness that Jack Ma said. Whether he is a capitalist or not, does not matter, if his words are inherently inhumane and unacceptable.
Thanks your videos are amazing: topics are great and interviews like these makes it challenging and very useful for real everyday language. 谢谢
A new video!! 😍
What's the point of life if you don't have free time for your hobbies and entertainment
Money isn't so important, it's better to work less for less money as long as you can live a normal life with that money
Btw great video as always, I'll make sure to listen it on repeat and study the new words ! Thank you
Good video! Seems you are just like the rest of us! This is quite a topic at the moment
Mandarin Corner, do you have a transcript of the chinese subtitles of each of your podcasts?
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There is such a good chemistry between the too of you.
Mmmm 😍😍
Thanks for the lesson, useful as always. I already knew about the 996 policy in China and I think it's toxic for any person to live on it in the long term. That's actually the reason (plus no worker rights whatsoever) I would hardly consider going in China to work
He has a point from an entrepreneurial perspective or working towards bigger goals, you have to work diligently. But applying this to some factory, retail or service job, or even a corporate job where you don't have a good pathway upwards is what is offensive. 996 will drive anyone to deep despair if you are not engaged in meaningful, interesting, and challenging work.
Charming Eilin.
This format is fantastic, and I'm starting to read the English less and less.