M2 Pro MacBook vs M1 Pro MacBook - WHY PAY MORE?
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M2 Pro 14-inch vs M1 Pro 14-inch: which MacBook to buy in 2023? Today I'm going to compare the new M2 Pro Mac with the M1 Pro Mac to decide whether to buy the recently released laptop from Apple or go for the old model! What are some cool features in the new M2 Pro 14" that aren't in the M1 Pro MacBook? You will definitely be amazed when you look at this comparison, because no one could have expected this! So which Mac should you buy in 2023? Be sure to watch this video from beginning to end, so as not to make a mistake when choosing a MacBook!
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thank you for finally comparing the 10 core M1 Pro to 10 core M2 Pro, haven't seen any of the 'bigger' channels compare them as it's the most level comparison!
I got an M1 pro refurbished for a steel. I couldn’t be happier. From Apple.
The comparison I was looking for.. great work 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Where is m1 pro 1439?
A video comparing performance at same price point would be helpful. You compared an older $2500 machine against a new $2000 machine. Kind of leads viewers to believe that the year to year improvement is more marginal than it actually is.
You missed the point he was saying you could buy a used M1 Pro with the 10 core m1 for way cheaper compared to a new m2 pro for similar performance
@@ItzSlushie The refurbished 10 core M1 Pro is $1930 compared to the base price of a new one being $2000. Those are Apple’s prices and I’m sure you can find a 10 core M1 cheaper, but I don’t necessarily see it being “way cheaper”
@@JackInns99 open box excellent condition from Best Buy for 1775 for the 10 core. And you’d get to see it in person. I think that’s a good price for saving 225
@@ItzSlushie Sounds like you got a decent deal on one!
I got a brand new one ( 4 inch M1 Pro 10 core/16 core, with 16 gb RAM and 1TB SSD for $1999, before Christmas. Basically same price as new M2 base model with 512 GB SSD. Looks like I made the right decision.
Interesting video! Did you compare the thermals between the two? Does either of them get hotter than the other when performing similar tasks? Would be interested to see such a comparison both for easy tasks and more demanding work.
For 99% of people: buy M1 and maybe uprade when M3 will come out.
I agree 👍
Is it worth buying the M1 pro still?
Or wait for the M3?
@@einfachso92 Worth it
For 99% of people, buy M1 and maybe upgrade when M8 will come out 😁
The M1 family should last average user 4 years. If you bought any of the M1 Pro models, or even buy one today, you wouldn't need upgrade until Winter 2027. Also, Apple has recently realized there isn't a strong enough market value or interest in releasing annual, numeric successors to the M line. Instead, more iterations of their most current chip is what is expected. Think "M2 S," "M2 X," "M2 Ultra," etc. With that said, in 4 years, Fall 2017, we should see the release of M5 ;)
And people are recommending M2 Pro over M3 Pro... So I guess there's no need to upgrade to M3 Pro either. Glad that I didn't hesitate to get my M1 Pro.
"[efficiency cores] ... are usually idling and only kick in in simple tasks that don't require computing power"
do you understand what you are saying? this statement is flawed in either that you are completely mixing up two things, or in that you assume that most of the total time the machine is used, it's used in in heavy tasks.
very good and informative - what I appreciate the most: the correct structure of themes - at first performance checks, then other stuff - well done!👍👍👍
Honestly, even if the M2 pro was more powerful in all aspects, I couldn't find a reason why to upgrade from the M1 pro... the M1 pro works absolutely fenomenal, just as day one. Great, great machine.
if you're upgrading from the m1 pro, i don't think you should. i think it's more for people like me who, who are swtching over from windows to mac
Oddly enough in Canada the difference between the M1 Pro and m2 pro is only $100. So might as well go to the m2 pro.
Refurbished M1 Pro is considerably less.
Only thing I can theorize why the M1 Pro is a bit faster in real time is because the M1 Pro has 8 Performance cores that can pull more performance cores to pull more performance out of the M1 than the 6 Performance cores from the M2 pro but the M1 Pro draws more power due to only 2 efficiency cores compared to the 4 efficiency cores from the M2 Pro
There's another theoritical explanation. m2 has high clocks + worse cooling = higher temperatures = throtling
M2 pro has been perfectly optimized with updates and is now much faster than M1 pro, and in low power mode it is exactly like M1 pro at full power, with benefits on fans, batteries and temperature. Export speeds (h264, prores) with Final Cut Pro are about 1.3-1.6x faster. My opinion is that many TH-camrs have created an unnecessary hysteria for a few more clicks. Fortunately, however, there are serious people like Luca Miani, who compared the M1 pro 10-core and M2 pro 10-core and has demonstrated that the latter is faster and more performing in everything but at a decidedly lower price than the 10- core M1 pro.
@@crisrocchi2722 it depends on what you're using it for... If you're using it for music production with Ableton then you're going to want all 8 performance cores since Ableton is not optimised for Mac like logic pro is and therefore if you go for the 4 efficiency cores with the M2 they will be idling for the whole time that you're using the software. But for other tasks you'll want to go for the m2
Dude, where is the test where you open 30 tabs in Chrome and then... close the lid! Then, open the lid a bit later.
You know what I mean? THAT is when the real slow downs happen in my experience...
I have been looking specifically for this comparison, most just compare the entry to entry. Good job!
There is a difference in SSD disk speed between 2021(M1) and 2023 (M2). M1 has a faster SSD. This make M2 (faster CPU) having similar performance as M1
I would see 2 NAND chips as a disadvantage as well over 1 chip... there is a reason you avoid RAIDs nowadays on SSDs.
@@harrison00xXx I also saw such a view on other forums such as Macrumors. Some people think that not using RAID will greatly increase the life of SSD. Is that so?
@@witalbum no
But the more SSDs/NAND chips you have the higher the chance one will blow up
It is slower only in the base model. Taking the 1TB version of m2 solve the problem.
Amazing comparison thanks a lot man :D
Can you please do the exact same test with the exact same machines with Sonoma 14.3.1 or 14.4 that is coming out in 2 weeks ?
would love to see how the new macos handle and push the machines and how they perform.
Mate could u do one between M1 Max with an m2 pro debating…. Use for mostly video editing and exporting. Looking for a 16inch. No one comparing m1 Mx to m2 pro
someone help me please, which is better M2 Pro 10 CPU 16 GPU 16 RAM 512 SSD, or M1 Pro 10 CPU 10 GPU 16 RAM 1 SSD Storage,
most of my work is on growing with a lot of extensions, coding, basic photoshop & videos... the different price for the 2 options 85$ ....for the storage I don't care as I have an external part, but I care more about the specs and performance, speed and so on.....I'm rly hesitated and cant make a decision which one should I go for.....thanks
I just payed 1200€ on a refurbished 16 M1 Pro with 98% health . Did I make a good deal ?
Sound quality wise are the DAC, headphone amp, and speakers the same? Any differences of note? Thank you
I love how you organize the content inside each video. New sub over here! :)
i wonder if the 1tb model on the m2 solves the ssd issue compared to the m1
It's so sad that APPLE pulled such a cheap shot with the SSD.
As far as I know, only M2 base model is got problem with the SSD. M1 512Gb or M2,M1 1TB is doing just fine.
Hi Arthur, I want to know where can I get the base model of the 14 inch macbook pro online for 1499$ (refurbished)?
Excellent video as always! I just got a Refurbished 16” M1 Pro for $1,400ish after tax with the 10/16, 16GB, and 512GB. Thats a crazy deal when I bought my M1 Air for roughly $1500 a few years ago. The 16 Pro wipes the floor in every conceivable way compared to the M1 Air.
currently debating getting the same laptop for £1500 ($1856) but i feel like getting a decent m3 pro macbook might be more worth. 1400 dollars for that macbook is a steal though, the US always gets some crazy deals.
If you get the M3, make sure you really study up on the differences between the:
Base M3
M3 Pro
M3 Max
They’re all very different and the base M3 is actually a huge step down from the M1 Pro and M2 Pro.
Just be careful with what you decide on if you get the M3.
@@clintmallon appreciate the advice man, was considering the m3 pro mainly. My usage will be mostly music production on logic (occasional bit of Final Cut), so more concerned about CPU and RAM. Was also considering the m2pro Mac mini and keeping my current 2017 MBP for portability. Just so many options aha
@@joeys02 I personally would get the best deal you can find on the 16” M1 or M2 MacBook Pro, bump the RAM up to 32 since that’s a concern, skip the Mini, and then sell your 2017 because you’ll have all the boxes covered at that point.
You can get a refurbished 16” M1 Pro MacBook Pro with 32GB of RAM on Reebelo which is a very highly rated store for $1,696 USD. That’s an absolute beast!!
@@clintmallon unfortunately can't access that deal because they dont ship to the UK, but found a 14 inch for £1650 with 1tb and 32gb of ram. the 16 inch is already hitting the 2k mark, at that point may as well get a new machine. not sure why UK prices are so much higher
Sold my 2017 Macbook Pro 13 with i5 this week.
Microcenter, HERE I COME !!!
So what if the M2 macbook 2023 is cheaper ? In my country it’s 150€ less then the 10 core M1 Pro from 2021. should I get the 2023 then ?
I need your advice. I’m a developer, not working with audio, video. Basically I work everyday on software development. What would be better to buy right now. M1 Max 16inch 32/1tb or 16 inch M2 Pro 16/1tb prices are quite comparable in my country. I’m also worried about ssd speed on m2 pro 1Tb. Is it slower than M1 Pro ?
Audio and video. Go with 32gb, 1tb m2 has a better gpu
@@djem_music4765 Have you read the question? He doesn't care about gpu
M1 Pro 16 and 1TB
32 gigs will help you out, plus m1 max is more performant than m2 pro
I just got a new M1 Max MBP to replace an i9 MBP I had and could not be happier with the performance. Sure, an M2 Max might be a bit better but for the discount on M1 I could not pass that deal up.
Is your MacBook pro M1PRO a 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD variant?
That's the comparison I was looking for. Thanks.
All this is good but I cannot find a 10core m1 macbook pro 14 inch 512gb anywhere for a reasonable price anymore. If anyone has got a link ( for the US) it would be really helpful. I am already getting the m2 pro 512gb base at a student discount(approx $1900). So I am looking for the m1 pro anywhere from $1500-1600.
Bro i just bought a m1 pro 14 inch 512 gig base model in dubai, after it i found a 16 inch 1TB 10 core base version only 200 bucks more, please tell me i didnt act hasty :(((((
what do you think about longevity though?
also make this type video with m1pro and m3pro
What is the threshold between efficiency and performance cores? Would a 1080p60 video on TH-cam run on efficiency or on performance? What about 4k Netflix? I'm sure Word/Excel/etc are on efficiency and Blender/Final Cut/etc are on performance?
That's why I bought M1 Pro instead of M2 pro with saved money I bought Apple Care 😊 and type c cable too.
M1 pro is cheaper than M2 pro in my city.
Macbook pro M1 pro 32gb ram 512 ssd VS macbook pro M2 pro 16gb ram 512 ssd
Both are for same price right now
Which one to buy ?
I use Logic pro alot and wanna upgrade
Please let me know
Does the ssd speed on the m2 have a big difference compared to the m1 in the real world?
i upgrade from m1 air to macbook 14 m1 ..........didnt feel any improvement :) but get very nice screen and hdmi port that only reason to upgrade
The speakers are much better also.
i thought screen was the same
What’s the ssd space capacity you had on both laptops?
Thank you so much for this nice video😊
where did you find a m1 pro for 1.5k?
Wouldn’t it make sense for most exporting, building, rendering etc. to be faster with more performance vs efficiency cores? I’m confused as to what makes the efficiency cores different, can someone explain it?
How can you compare refurbished with new product?
Refurbish is basically brand new I just got an M1 pro for a steel
Great comparison. Just avoid refurbished MacBooks except it’s directly refurbished by Apple, this is to ensure you’re getting the best performance.
First let’s goooo!!! Loving my 14in M1 MBP 10/16/16 1 TB
@@JackCarter911 nah your MacBook is still hella overpowered. I got mine a week ago with same specs as yours cause it was on sale. It’s fast AF
FYI …..B&H Photo has Brand new 16inch MacBook Pro M1pro 16gb ram and 1tb ssd for 1,899 cheaper than Apple refurbished …..just bought one
I just went with an Apple refurbed M1 Pro.
How's the performance so far?
@@bukki007 I'm very pleased with it. Very fast and the battery life is amazing.
First gen of a new of parts vs second gen. As a former apple tech, don’t ever buy first gen (of anything for that matter)
Is the m2 second gen
@@bootlegbadger is the second gen of this body style, yes
Aw, I’d get the M1 Pro if it was on apple’s website, but they don’t have it so I’ll have to get the m2 😢
Even if both perform as same, the only concern for me is how long Apple stop to make update in the system for the M1. Because Apple make a good “gadgets” but they “kill” those gadgets more early (few years) than went Steve Jobs was running the business. 😉
Eh…I’m still able to use my 2010 MacBook Pro just fine.
Thanks for you video, i will buy tomorrow a macbbok pro m1 32 gb ram 1tb. Price in Peru s/12000 - $3200
What about SSD disc ? m1 is faster becasue have 2 small cube :)
may it not worth for upgrade if you using m1
I don’t know what unit you have but they both sound exactly the same. The same!
Which one is better for the same price?
14” M1 Pro 10 core 1TB or M2 Pro 10 core 512GB?
the m2 pro in the 512 configuration will have slower transfer speeds. if that doesn't bother you and/or you like HDMI 2.1, I'd probably go m2 pro (have the m1 pro 10c with 1tb)
@@iceberglounge, get M2 Pro, but double the SSD to 1 TB, or def get the MI, since M2 SSD is slower , because of the single NAND chip thing.
Great vido. Helps a lot, mostly the honest review.
I hope you or someone else can help me with my next purchase. Correctly i have an hp with a i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti - 4 Go GDDR5 and 16 of ram. I work with 4k video and 3d blender. In thinking about buying the 14 m1 pro, 14 m2 pro or the 16 m1 pro. Can someone help me with this?
THANKS A LOT!
If you’re buying new versus upgrading, do you still recommend the M1 Pro vs the M2 Pro? And if so, what configuration would you recommend?
You can find great deals on M1 Pro new. The specs of the one in the video are more than sufficient for most people.
if you don't need to often transfer files or HDMI 2.1, as the person above said, good deals can be had on M1 Pros, even base M1 Pros are great for a lot of people
The MORE FUN question is: What will Apple offer in future Macbooks, besides the obvious, subsequent M-processor upgrades, to entice new users and make M1/M2 Pro users feel they NEED to upgrade? Everyone comment with suggestions and ideas for what they EXPECT, WANT or NEED in future Macbooks. I'll start...
Bold, fun colors for all models, OLED screens, 4K cam, Face ID, minimum 16 hrs. battery life for web/web videos on all models including Pro models, and weight reduction on Pro models.
@@MarcosIsABaritone You listed them all...the end lol...
@@cazjosh Haha. Yeah. All those adjustments would be a dream.
The 10 core M1 pro model you tested doesn't sell for 1,500, you showed the 8 core one 😆 Otherwise, this is a fantastic video.
Thanks, cool video
so m1 pro is better. got it :) ordering now. thanks :)
Where to you get an m1 14 inch dor that price? Here in europe its over 2000$
That's not true, in Germany you can get it fpr 1730€. Don't buy directly from apple as its more expensive
@@sinuskurvepitch1247 where? I bought the cheapest one i could find and that was an offer for 1900€
I got a 16" M1 Pro base model for 1900€ once (with student discount, without it would have been 2400€, Austria)
I’m beginner in coding what would be best for me M1 Pro base model with 16gb/512gb or M2 pro base model with 1TB ssd? Coding being cpu intensive which one will I benefit from? Will M2 thermal throttle for me?
Just get the m1 invest. But I got mine for $1635 open box satisfactory but it was like brand new the screen still had the paper on it the charge was wrap and it was the 1tb with 10 cores plus the ssd is faster then the m2 ssd and you get better speakers
Doens't matter at all. If you really are a beginner you'll be even good with an m1 Air for a long time...
14" is definately prone to thermal throttling (under full load, the M2)
But in fact you have only real issues with M1 and M2 Max 14" models.
@@lapatabelluda2240 it has a better side on lower end, If you get more than 256gb performance is same or better between m1 and m2 ssds
@@arshaqhabib1932 I’m happy with my MacBook 💻 I meant $1730 is a moot of money for a laptop but then I think about it and I’m like oh well I got a good deal 😅
Looks like we're getting the m1 mbp
All of you are not comparing the right side of computer, why???
Idk if this dude does it on purpose or not but he always says refuBRished instead of refuRBished
Gimme that old M1 pro Its useless for you but so useful for me😭
i only want the 120Hz
Both have it
@@jest4112 I think the M1 Pro 14" macbook has only 60hz HDMI
@@sinuskurvepitch1247 doesnt it have hdmi 2.1?
@@jest4112 no, not the 2021 model, only the new one
Which sweet spot is sweeter 😩
Where is the M1 Pro, 1439?
Amazon refurbished. I would go w Apple refurbished for $1539
Slightly faster but no one will really notice.
The model to compare is wrong. The M1Pro's 10-core CPU is a higher model (8-core =lower Model), so M2Pro should be compared to the 12-core model (10-core =lower Model). I think it's an unfair comparison to make it on fire.
No its fair regarding to price and core count
Everyone talks sht about base machines but here we are. Buy specked up models to compare lol
thxxxxx
So 16gb ram (M1 pro base) vs 8gb ram (M2 pro base) isn't that much of a deal ? Have been looking at various reviews addressing this issue !
@TAdams yes you are right ! I am sorry I got confused. Trying to choose between 14" M1 pro macbook pro and the M2 pro. The single nand chip in M2 is what I have been reading up on versus the two in the M1
@TAdams Please allow me to ask a quick question. It will really help me make up my mind. I have been trying to choose between 14" macbook M1 pro & the new M2 pro.(base models). The M1 pro is about 300USD cheaper in my country & for my usage 16gb ram is more than sufficient. I have seen comparisons between them both but the 300$ less is a super sweet deal for me. Would you say the M2pro has something over the M1pro which justifies the 300$ jump in my case ? I would not be changing the new laptop for atleast 5-6 years(primary machine). My usage is light to medium. Photoshop/illustrator/little bit of final cut Pro/ Adobe premier pro & I don't have the budget to go beyond these two variants. Thanks !!
@@gimax4689, so if get M2 Pro, get 1 TB SSD.
@@gimax4689, I think the video answers that question. M1 just as good and has better sound. Save your money!
YES, or get M1 Pro with same specs, for less money.
Just got a 1tb M1 Pro 10 core for $1440, the M2 pro base is decidedly not worth it. M2 as a whole has mostly been disappointing.
used ??
@@270hz Indeed
M1 pro 1400$ ???? In france it’s still 2300€
Great sales on M1 Pros, since M2 released. I got a brand new unbinned one, with 1 TB SSD for 1999. It"s awesome. saved $500.00
My m1 pro will last me at least good 6 years easy.
I’ll be real with you bro, this is one of the most trash comparison ive ever seen, Not once have u compared the performance per the dollar or the thermals at all and not even the used market value.
Everything is so cheap in US
Just ordered the base M1 pro. It has faster ram than the base M2 pro.
Faster RAM? Where did You get that info?
@@smokehead5318 Source: trust me bro
Faster hard drive you mean
Faster ssd ! Not ram bro 😎