Top 25 Players Predictions | Boston Major | Johnny vs TBates vs CJCJ vs Dazerin vs Yumi

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  • @heisen1815
    @heisen1815 ปีที่แล้ว +604

    people hating on tbates need to realize he's the reason there's actual discussion in these. if everyone agrees on everything, there's nothing to be talked about. You need someone with outrageous takes here and there to make it interesting, lively, funny. Tbates needs more love, especially from chat.

    • @TheLeftCulprit
      @TheLeftCulprit ปีที่แล้ว +74

      I agree. Bates is likely very aware that his "hot takes" keep the conversation lively. The reactions from everyone else are funny af

    • @darktimes4349
      @darktimes4349 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      How about he puts 0 NA players in the list. This would sparkle controversy and be outrageus and dumb as this. He is a fanboy, and a liar. He should be replaced asap.

    • @macrokamusic5971
      @macrokamusic5971 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Ya, if Bates left the community would lose something huge, I'm really glad he's around

    • @jahnj2523
      @jahnj2523 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@darktimes4349u a hoe ahh nxgga boa onna dead hommies

    • @karlomolnar2780
      @karlomolnar2780 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I agree but sometimes, he takes it too far and i don't even know if he is being ironic or not

  • @christianwallace4940
    @christianwallace4940 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    Vatira has gotta be pressed after seeing himself at 2nd across the board😂

    • @George-li1yv
      @George-li1yv ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Technically that gives him a higher average ranking than Zen thanks to the one and only Tbates

    • @ts_30
      @ts_30 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@George-li1yvyeah but you can basically ignore tbates’ list

    • @christianwallace4940
      @christianwallace4940 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ts_30 fr that list was wild lol

    • @09ziyad
      @09ziyad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He didn't deserve it Alpha > Vatira

    • @christianwallace4940
      @christianwallace4940 ปีที่แล้ว

      @09ziyad yeah idk about that one but alpha is nutty

  • @drujackson4930
    @drujackson4930 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    It would be interesting to see people like Joyo, Appjack, SCRUBKILLA in one of these. Difference in perspective from a pro would be cool and not to mention a pro and personality like Scrub

    • @kingo5940
      @kingo5940 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm waiting for this since these video series started

    • @interycreeper1152
      @interycreeper1152 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes, in place of Tbates please

    • @altfist
      @altfist ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@interycreeper1152no way, I need tbates on these so I can laugh at him. He's the best addition on this, because of how hot garbage his takes are and how dumb his justifications are. Otherwise it's just a bunch of guys agreeing with each other all stream, boring af.

    • @interycreeper1152
      @interycreeper1152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@altfist No, if Bates left they would Stop having to argue about this nonsense and start having some meaty discussions of whats actually interesting. He is holding everything up

    • @4oho361
      @4oho361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@interycreeper1152 if you dont like him stop watching him the majority of us like tbates and the entertainment value he brings

  • @themrzakid
    @themrzakid ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Every time I think to myself "Bates' list cannot get worse than last time", but man keeps outdoing himself. I really don't know why this became a Daniel debate lol

    • @PhaZeUnleashed
      @PhaZeUnleashed ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Calm down buddy it was a Daniel debate for like 7 minutes if even that.

    • @majesticmo5048
      @majesticmo5048 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​@@PhaZeUnleashed7 minutes is crazy for a guy at first place who didn't make the major and might not even make worlds.
      And I'm saying this as a Daniel fan

    • @kozukitonio740
      @kozukitonio740 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@majesticmo5048daniel is HIM either way

    • @majesticmo5048
      @majesticmo5048 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @kozukitonio740 Daniel is good but he's not HIM. Zen is HIM, firstkiller is HIM, vatira is HIM etc

    • @kozukitonio740
      @kozukitonio740 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@majesticmo5048 firstkiller ehh more like ayyjayy

  • @Bri-tt1pj
    @Bri-tt1pj ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I whole heartedly recommend that everyone watches the twitch vod of this for the full experience

    • @NiceDZNintro
      @NiceDZNintro ปีที่แล้ว +16

      nah I don't like children spamming cringe emojis

    • @ryanlunzen9794
      @ryanlunzen9794 ปีที่แล้ว

      Twitch is aids

    • @brandonkucera9841
      @brandonkucera9841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why adds

    • @potato4481
      @potato4481 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why

    • @yitter_
      @yitter_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NiceDZNintroI think he’s referencing cj sleeping in 40 minutes late and the banter that was going on prior. Not so much the twitch app itself or features.

  • @ne0n_idiot143
    @ne0n_idiot143 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Monkey moon's consistency is jstn level, we've been talking about him being top 5 in the world since fall of 2020 its super crazy

  • @parkerliebl2633
    @parkerliebl2633 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Jonny's take on what an honorable mention makes my brain hurt

    • @happy_labs
      @happy_labs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he just got confused and forgot he'd asked for a top 25 not top 24

    • @pulsefrost9562
      @pulsefrost9562 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@happy_labs they do this like evrey major tho and if you look back they almost always seem to be confused on what an honorable mention qualifies as

  • @KB-du3rh
    @KB-du3rh ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Let's just remember, Psyonix pay this man for his opinions and analysis. They asked Gregan to leave because they couldn't afford everyone, but still kept this guy on. I love to laugh at a Bates take as much as the next man, but it's gone from copium to delusion.....breaks my heart that Gregan died for this

    • @Aztronaut001
      @Aztronaut001 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Bro everytime gregan streams or posts some of his game analysis, I get frustrated that he's not a part of rlcs anymore, not one of the analysts we have left understand the game like this man

    • @NiceDZNintro
      @NiceDZNintro ปีที่แล้ว +11

      they don't pay him for his opinions and analysis. he's paid because he's good at entertainment. we watch rlcs for fun. not to over analyse a video game

    • @VilTheVillain
      @VilTheVillain ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think TBates is a good pickup there, but not a good replacement if that makes sense. He's funny, and relatable as a "fan" where his bias shines through. It's like being a fan of a sports team, where before a competition you do have your bias and feel like "they're the best" and then when the team underperforms to your expectations you can be more critical than others of their performance.
      Don't get me wrong, I think he has a terrible list (I saw the list and am now listening to them justifying their picks) but for the "showman" factor, I'd say most people would agree that entertainment is appreciated more than good analysis, especially when I'd say most of the viewers are fairly young and won't necessarily understand the more technical aspects.

    • @KB-du3rh
      @KB-du3rh ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed, he brought something unique, it's a shame he wasn't brought back.
      They pay him because he's a hype man, which is fine, especially for a very casual audience who don't follow the pro scene or play the game much...people who follow the scene a lot don't need some rambling dude pretending he knows what he's on about. We're hyped by the game, not the talent desk. And he has taken that analyst role on that desk.
      I don't hate Bates, he's a great personality and brings lots of discussion. But this list is too far towards 'stupid'...most of his takes are terrible...and not just that, but we lost Gregan for it...he currently occupies the role on the desk that Gregan had and does a much worse job. I'd love him to be there, but not at the cost of Gregan, is my point.

    • @KB-du3rh
      @KB-du3rh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VilTheVillain Agreed, he's a great addition but a terrible replacement. Towards the end is where I personally differ, the game and learning about it is the entertainment that I value over the takes and hype build up. I don't have the stats to know what's more popular and not gonna pretend I do. But yeah I agree I'm sure most viewers are young and want more hype. Fair enough then, but my heart remains broken for Gregan nontheless

  • @Flush333
    @Flush333 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I don't really need Bates' troll takes to "keep the conversation interesting". They don't make it interesting because it just results in the others having to state obvious facts. That said, it's just a casual player ranking, I can see why people enjoy the banter even if I'd prefer it a bit more serious

    • @misterragger2389
      @misterragger2389 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah, hot takes are interesting, but absolutely ridiculous takes are just boring, because there is no conversation needed. Bad quality bait

  • @rainunderscoredot
    @rainunderscoredot ปีที่แล้ว +58

    tbates is literally and purposefully trolling its absolutely classic

    • @supremedouglas
      @supremedouglas ปีที่แล้ว +9

      tbates mad cringe imo

    • @4oho361
      @4oho361 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@supremedouglas ur mad cringe

    • @brasefr
      @brasefr ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@supremedouglasit would be a 15 minute stream without bates, he’s very necessary for the community. He gives the community some personality

    • @peo2697
      @peo2697 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@supremedouglas agreed. he just seems to be craving for attention

    • @supremedouglas
      @supremedouglas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@4oho361 bruh what, clearly ur mad enoguh to comment on me lmfao. pull bates pants up when ur done kid

  • @rosegoldberg2469
    @rosegoldberg2469 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actually kind of crazy how much Johnny and Yumi's lists have in common...
    1. Zen
    2. Vatira
    4. Alpha54
    10. Oski
    11. Seikoo
    13. Rw9
    18. crr
    21. Kash
    For a game like this, having 8/25 with the same placement is pretty nuts

  • @drewdedom4432
    @drewdedom4432 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:04:40 Bates they boutta walk in and WHAT?

  • @thaunos
    @thaunos ปีที่แล้ว +16

    We’ve now learned that if you want to be the highest rated player on your team by CJ, you just need to have some type of animal as your in game name lol

  • @imsmallcat1034
    @imsmallcat1034 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    rado at 20 was nuts. dude scores like every goal, and call me crazy but he's been the standout player on that team.

    • @alexkrueger5121
      @alexkrueger5121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s the best “third man” in the world. Debatable if he’s the third man because Zen is like a Daniel on steroids but regardless he’s the best support player alongside two superstars in the world, no debate.

    • @endosym5414
      @endosym5414 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alexkrueger5121 The only thing you've said right is that Rado is alongside two superstars

    • @markopanic6371
      @markopanic6371 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is either a copypasta or I'm going insane

    • @misterragger2389
      @misterragger2389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nah zen has been the mvp of the split so far that's clear

    • @DrSuccDelucc
      @DrSuccDelucc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexkrueger5121 zen is the third man role on vitality and flex role.. alpha and radosin flip roles from first and second man

  • @Rafutah
    @Rafutah ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YESSS I was hoping you'd do one of these again. I love these! Thanks for the content Johnny

  • @-.-1724
    @-.-1724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CJ raving about the bear hibernating was hilarious, love these rankings

  • @verychildish8334
    @verychildish8334 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Bates never fails

    • @verychildish8334
      @verychildish8334 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      To have a horrible list

    • @senorlodenstein
      @senorlodenstein ปีที่แล้ว

      ...to bait imbeciles who haven't realized yet that he's just a massive troll

    • @warlock_r
      @warlock_r ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@verychildish8334To be a content God

    • @TheLeftCulprit
      @TheLeftCulprit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's still got it 🙌

    • @Stick1Master
      @Stick1Master ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@warlock_r Lol no. It's really not great content if he forces it in such an unreasonable way every time. Throwing wild takes just for the sake of having wild takes isn't content, it's just farming impressions instead of what he should be doing - analyzing the game

  • @dragscrpn
    @dragscrpn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For those of you that are curious...
    North America : Red
    Europe : Blue
    South America : Yellow
    Middle East : Green
    Oceania : Pink

  • @jimmywheeler19
    @jimmywheeler19 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I understand tbates trying to provoke conversation with a bold list. but there is a point where it becomes completely stupid and I think he tends to walk the wrong side of that line

    • @maximuspowers
      @maximuspowers ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well said, I agree completely.

  • @selaphiel9859
    @selaphiel9859 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video is missing the VERY important first hour and a bit of absolutely nothing followed by waiting for bates to pull up and CJ to WAKE up (actually entertaining and fun to watch live, chat was losing it)

  • @isaacbrightman1133
    @isaacbrightman1133 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    T Bates always has the most unique list you’ll ever see 😂

  • @TheSethOlson
    @TheSethOlson ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Would be funny if literally the only team to perform from EU is vitality

  • @TheOnlySenator
    @TheOnlySenator ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bro everybody had Zen at number one, while TBates has him at number 10?? He has to be trolling right?

    • @TheLeftCulprit
      @TheLeftCulprit ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He definitely trolls to flame fans and keep things interesting. Without him the show would certainly be less interesting lol

    • @newbcrimson
      @newbcrimson ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m sure it’s scripted. They need one guy who disagrees or else the show would just be “oh yeah that’s cool, oh I agree”

  • @dylancochrane6296
    @dylancochrane6296 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Bates takes are wild as ever but I do think people are WAY overhyping MENA just because of their 1v1 pedigree. They haven't peformed at all since 2021-2022 major.

    • @kristianvukajlovic6789
      @kristianvukajlovic6789 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbf, only johnny is kinda doing it here. Everyone else has only RW9 on the list, and even that is 13 at the highest, so nobody is really predicting that MENA go that far, or do that well. They also said they expect them to play KRU close. If we consider wider audiences, I don't think too many people are high on MENA, hopeful definitely since we wanna see R1 succeed, but I don't think that many people think they will get a big result.

    • @misterragger2389
      @misterragger2389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      falcons were really really close from top8 last major and they play fantastic. I think it's a more than fair take to think that rule one can do better than them in LAN considering which teams tend to underperform or overperform in LAN. Specially when they won't have to face the only team they seem to have a mental block with

    • @Megaloblastic
      @Megaloblastic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Time to watch the complexity vs rule one show match

    • @noonecares4440
      @noonecares4440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they sweeped complexity you donut

    • @misterragger2389
      @misterragger2389 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noonecares4440 tbf that was after the first comment + an online ShowMatch doest not necessarily represent properly what can happen in LAN. I agree with you that R1 are scary and might even be good candidates to take the major, tho

  • @simontmiller
    @simontmiller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Johnny said Radosin was farming Retals in twos but Retals literally beat Vatira in ones. Does ranked matter or not?

  • @W3lle
    @W3lle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro you cut out the entire best part of the stream! I legit was laughing my ass off the entire hour the stream was live but you guys weren’t ready😂😂

  • @abdullaalhammadi244
    @abdullaalhammadi244 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tbates be like why that hate on Daniel when he didn't win anything for 2 years
    While zen winning 3 regional back to back and be like he is top 9

  • @riley5409
    @riley5409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In no particular order, Zen, Vatira, Chronic, ApparentlyJack, and Firstkiller (I know he’s not in the major) are the top five best players in the world. Chronic is constantly underrated and has insane mechanics, Jack is recognized as one of the best and is amazingly consistent and mechanical, Zen and Vatira have performed incredibly well and have amazing mechanics, and Firstkiller is… well, Firstkiller. The top spots are always changing though.

    • @DiogoSantos-lz5ii
      @DiogoSantos-lz5ii ปีที่แล้ว +3

      U must’ve forgot chronic and jack only qualified cuz optic did miracles chronic and jack are NOT better than radosin oski monkeymoon seikooo ayyjayy yanxz lostt kash joyo alpha atow exotiik itachi reysbull and there’s probably more I really don’t know what youve been watching this whole split… 😂😂😂

    • @misterragger2389
      @misterragger2389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bruh I'm a chronic and jack fanboy but to think they are top5 in the world you have to be DELUSIONAL in capital letters

    • @DiogoSantos-lz5ii
      @DiogoSantos-lz5ii ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@misterragger2389 exactly they are not even top10 right now, if we talking by peak then yeah sure their up there but right now just no 😂😂

    • @danielhettesheimer606
      @danielhettesheimer606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      found dazerin's burner

  • @cKarmaRL
    @cKarmaRL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THESE TO COME BACK FOR SOO LONG!!!!

  • @KeenLion3
    @KeenLion3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven’t watched yet but Here’s my top 25 for those who wanna compare. I made this a week ago and I try to prescribe to Johnny’s law of averages
    1) Yanxnz
    2)Atow
    3)Zen
    4)Vatira
    5)Lostt
    6)RW9
    7)Oski
    8)itatchi
    9)AYYJAYY
    10) killers
    11) Chronic
    12) Alpha54
    13)Acronik
    14) Caard
    15) LJ
    16) Exotiik
    17) Rise
    18) Retals
    19)Joyo
    20)Arsenal
    21) M7sn
    22)Magicbear
    23)Radosin
    24)hockser
    25)ApparentlyJack

    • @maximuspowers
      @maximuspowers ปีที่แล้ว

      Now THIS is an interesting list. This has some "hot takes" that are different enough from the others' lists but are not so stupid to have no reasoning behind it. A good charismatic analyst would take something like having Zen at number 3 (as opposed to 10! wtf?) where everyone else had him at 1 and use that for great meaty discussion and banter. It's the right level of entertainment and real analysis. We should get you on there in place of TBates. You had Yanxnz at 1, you have Radosin way lower, you had Acronik higher, you have M7sn on there. I also like your distribution of Optic players better. Very interesting list indeed.

    • @KeenLion3
      @KeenLion3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maximuspowers thx a lot! Really tried to channel my inner CJ on this one 😅

  • @somarafa9998
    @somarafa9998 ปีที่แล้ว

    27:30 Fantastic prediction by Johnny here. Spot on. Close loss in game 5 to GenG.

  • @flurry7439
    @flurry7439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta Love how the daniel no. 1 take aged xD Not gonna be at worlds lol

  • @aidenguo5580
    @aidenguo5580 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    By Bates’ logic, MonkeyMoon should be #1 on this list. Dudes the reigning world champ.

    • @SnakeThisLife
      @SnakeThisLife ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Having wild takes and hyping players up is fine, but the completely inconsistent logic is frustrating. Bates could have even saved his Zen placement if he just said "I think he is the most hyped up player in RL history and I predict that pressure will get to him, and he'll choke late in the tournament" but no he says the same things that if they were said about Daniel last year bates would have laughed at and said "you just dont know ball lmao just watch this kid play"

  • @gmotee
    @gmotee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Majicbear vs M0nkey M00n 1v1 showmatch before the major ft. CJCJ casting

  • @martinfoss3788
    @martinfoss3788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still remember the first one of these that Johnny posted, i fucking love these vids👌

  • @RotakeR
    @RotakeR ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking at TBates' list, if Daniel > Alpha, Lj > Zen, Arsenal > Radosin, where was SSG's treble last split? Not only that, they didn't even qualify for lan lmao.

    • @jahnj2523
      @jahnj2523 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf is a treble

    • @misterragger2389
      @misterragger2389 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jahnj2523 winnint the three regionals of a single split

  • @Canowormz
    @Canowormz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can we get johnnyboi a durag and another talk with everyone about this list AFTER the major?
    Edit: if Johnny comes out on top with this list he has to get a durag and roast tbates

  • @fabreasy304
    @fabreasy304 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love for them to bring in a guest to one of these. Not a pro player or a caster. But a fan with a lot of knowledge from one of their discords.

    • @wallysnakes2690
      @wallysnakes2690 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nobody wants a nerd that nobody knows about. It would be much better to have a pro or two on

  • @dansbigfanguitarist
    @dansbigfanguitarist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone’s gonna remember Zen at 10, but killeerrz as an honorable mention is much worse

  • @TyreseWigglebottom
    @TyreseWigglebottom ปีที่แล้ว

    I have so much respect for Bates still even after we’re over with V1 failing and we’re onto major conversation, he’s the biggest V1 meatrider I’ve ever heard. Respect that he’s committed to it

  • @kingo5940
    @kingo5940 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cant we have a voting to let us the viewers decide which list is the best?

    • @Deci.
      @Deci. ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they do on twitch

  • @hiroprotagonest
    @hiroprotagonest ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't believe Bates tried to out-CJ the CJ

  • @robertphillips2366
    @robertphillips2366 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always love the watch this after it’s all over 😂

  • @RecumbentJones
    @RecumbentJones ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Retals not being on here is just a dishonor to that man

  • @flosvater5811
    @flosvater5811 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:38:20 was actually a really good take by tbates

  • @interycreeper1152
    @interycreeper1152 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If Bates left they would Stop having to argue about this nonsense and start having some meaty discussions of whats actually interesting. He is holding everything up

    • @pulsefrost9562
      @pulsefrost9562 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your entitled to your own opinion but bates is one of the reasons i watch he adds controversy which adds comedy to the stream if it was just stats the entire time i would just skip to the end to see their final lists.

  • @MohammedAAAs
    @MohammedAAAs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spoiler alert
    Did CJCJ say why he didn't put Rw9 on his list?

    • @MohammedAAAs
      @MohammedAAAs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If yes, please give me the timestamp

    • @Snapey81
      @Snapey81 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MohammedAAAs If I had to guess it would be because he woke up an hour after the stream had started and basically chucked his list together in 5 minutes.

  • @milankamphuis3866
    @milankamphuis3866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayyjay at 20 is ridiculous bro was a top 2 player in NA this split.

  • @kingo5940
    @kingo5940 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28:10 i love thd chat "its randomly generated" Bout tbates list lol

  • @-_domingo4852
    @-_domingo4852 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They got so much confidence with eu doing soo well ima be laughing when they get disappointed

    • @amadeus5539
      @amadeus5539 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm

    • @dianasafciu1157
      @dianasafciu1157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cry na retard eu better

    • @nodidog
      @nodidog ปีที่แล้ว

      💀

    • @-_domingo4852
      @-_domingo4852 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nodidog they didn’t disappoint lmao

    • @nodidog
      @nodidog ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-_domingo4852 I'm sure NA will be back stronger for worlds!

  • @SamMaki
    @SamMaki ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dazerin said a lot this video, nearly 2 hours long and he had 1 word per hour

  • @powderyowl8967
    @powderyowl8967 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are always the best content. Just a comment for the algorithm

  • @ftghb
    @ftghb ปีที่แล้ว

    tbates actually came close, he had complexity knocking off vitality and they nearly did it. reysbull was a beast

  • @TheDarkbluerock
    @TheDarkbluerock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A certified 'bruh' moment from bates.

  • @pnywise3990
    @pnywise3990 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:55 bates saying "I'm confused" like clearly bro what is that list

  • @willb8673
    @willb8673 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love tbates in these lists
    Getting mad at LJ being 20th, when he's got 2/3 of Karmine lower, and them still making the final lmao

  • @henrywagner113
    @henrywagner113 ปีที่แล้ว

    aint no way some of you put ayyjayy and acronik that low lol. i admit i didn't really listen to the reasons cuz i didn't have that much time to watch the whole stream but ik both of them are essential teammates

  • @nonesocruel
    @nonesocruel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This aged well 😝 for bates

  • @rs1z95
    @rs1z95 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Daniel is so good that he doesn't even have to at the major to be No.1

    • @wkbdgeorge
      @wkbdgeorge ปีที่แล้ว

      No, not really

  • @HrvojeMikovic
    @HrvojeMikovic ปีที่แล้ว

    Bates bracket turned upside down - horizontally 🤣

  • @remischwab5985
    @remischwab5985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My english is not very good but i rly Hope tbates is just a big troll 😅

  • @ImNotBonkrs
    @ImNotBonkrs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to not like bates but now I expect bad takes and just wait to see how outrages they are so he’s one of my favorites now

  • @spaceyouppy
    @spaceyouppy ปีที่แล้ว

    u cropped out the best part where we waited for cj to wake up for an hour :(

  • @grantkirkman2102
    @grantkirkman2102 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FINALLY THE VOD W

  • @habitatLP
    @habitatLP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tbates just doesn't understand the concept of mediocracy. Just because nobody thinks you are the greatest, it's not like everybody thinks you're the worst.

  • @jacobj9652
    @jacobj9652 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think zen could be 10 if he decides to only stick to the basics and doesn’t try for any crazy mechanical plays. He probably wont, but it is within the realm of possibility

  • @nas1197-i6j
    @nas1197-i6j ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Klieerz is def top 25 (24)

  • @subparpt
    @subparpt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tbates was kinda making sense with the bracket rankings not coinciding with player performance, and he got shit on a little here for it but that's the EXACT OPPOSITE of what happened at the post London rankings. Zen was like top 5 in everyone other than Bates list, even though they were ~top 8.
    His performance placed him way above the potential top 24 given the 8 teams, which is what Bates said here which everyone disagreed with.

  • @Dragon_MC13
    @Dragon_MC13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbated list finally did something right putting Zen on 10

  • @flurry7439
    @flurry7439 ปีที่แล้ว

    Daniel is a superstar. He is so good he can't even make the major xD

  • @Heightsies
    @Heightsies ปีที่แล้ว

    i am always looking forward to these videos 😂

  • @ryanpatton1795
    @ryanpatton1795 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly besides some of the oddball takes like Zen at 10, Dan at 1, RW9 at 23, yan at 12, I actually don't hate Tbates list.

    • @ryanlunzen9794
      @ryanlunzen9794 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look closer it's just bullshit. 20-25 except Chronic are all top 10 or atleast top slightly above.

  • @pulse_verify
    @pulse_verify ปีที่แล้ว

    Make Zen vs Dark(?) showmatch

  • @qpolo6000
    @qpolo6000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE BEAR

  • @KMaggot
    @KMaggot ปีที่แล้ว

    Naaaa man, the disrespect on ajg is maaaad how tf no one got him in the list. These watched rlcs with their backs

  • @milankamphuis3866
    @milankamphuis3866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im European but the European bias is crazy from Johnnyboi

  • @cryonisrl2419
    @cryonisrl2419 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Safe to say that G2 not qualifying got to TBates' brain. That has got to be the worst list ever made. 😂

  • @rationalbanana577
    @rationalbanana577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bates is sometimes mistaken!

  • @thund3r94
    @thund3r94 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh I’m a v1 fan but how the hell does tbates have Daniel at 1 when he isn’t even at the major the fuck?

  • @lukebourgeois3178
    @lukebourgeois3178 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok, tbates has a point. putting zen at spot number 10 could end up being pretty accurate. he could be shook by the crowd, as remember this is being held in NA. I think most of what tbates says is crazy, but there’s a chance he would crack under the pressure

    • @tabs1913
      @tabs1913 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      NA crowd ain't shaking nobody.

    • @ethanluke5130
      @ethanluke5130 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I could be wrong, but were people not saying the same thing about Moist (Team Queso) last year at the Winter major and then they cleaned house😂 barring the final of course

    • @darthrai5147
      @darthrai5147 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ethanluke5130 they werent even shaken in the final they just got tired playing 4 bo7 series in 5 hours

    • @lukebourgeois3178
      @lukebourgeois3178 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ethanluke5130 lmao yea he did, but STILL, there is hope

    • @misterragger2389
      @misterragger2389 ปีที่แล้ว

      bruh even if vitality got like top4 zen wouldnt be that bad down. Top 10 for zen would be almost as terrible as top16 for BDS last spring, and predicting that kind of scenario is just dumb even if it's remotely possible to happen

  • @bean_au371
    @bean_au371 ปีที่แล้ว

    tbates came to debate with this list oh my god

  • @nodidog
    @nodidog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, the teams are so good at this LAN, that there isn't really any bad picks. Almost all of the teams are good enough to win if they show up

    • @nuno768
      @nuno768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      zen at 10 is a bad pick ahah

    • @nodidog
      @nodidog ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nuno768 Yeah and Daniel at 1 😂 I didn't expect anyone to do anything that ridiculous to be fair

  • @potato_noodles.
    @potato_noodles. ปีที่แล้ว

    LJ > Zen was DEF proving a point 😭

  • @reinoutschep2560
    @reinoutschep2560 ปีที่แล้ว

    That desciption LMAO

  • @RJ22
    @RJ22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Daz or Yumi have the best lists

  • @kovugreen
    @kovugreen ปีที่แล้ว

    Zen at 10 from TBates?! That's delusional

  • @vincentricard6973
    @vincentricard6973 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first NA born player in johnny's list is 16th and that makes me smile lol

    • @ryanlunzen9794
      @ryanlunzen9794 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love how the NA fanboys think Johnny is hating on NA but the region is dead.

    • @Skorpien.
      @Skorpien. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ryanlunzen9794Even funier is that across the board, there are only 2 NA born players in the top 10, which are AYYJAYY and LJ

  • @PerrythePlatypus0680
    @PerrythePlatypus0680 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats hobongo18 for predicting correct

  • @superpeng898
    @superpeng898 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it used to be funny with tbates bad lists bcz he actually meant them and wasn't trolling. when he is trying this hard to be different or create drama/baiting id rather not see him at all. its not funny at this point and instead cringe and annoing

  • @darktimes4349
    @darktimes4349 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Daniel can prove he is nr. 1 on the next major. Lets all wish him best of luck.

    • @chesuch11
      @chesuch11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      next major 💀

    • @bhavikabachwani5833
      @bhavikabachwani5833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He has won 1 event in 5 whole splits. And you can't use the bad teamates excuse because all 3 of his old teamates made it to the major and SSG as a whole had their best online split in a long time. He is really talented, but talent alone wont get you wins

    • @adrianpaulochoa9825
      @adrianpaulochoa9825 ปีที่แล้ว

      At this point he might not even make worlds lmao. If Furia or Optic get out of their side of the upper bracket (Top 6) v1 is out. Sooooo...

  • @Ginja_DaNinja
    @Ginja_DaNinja ปีที่แล้ว

    I need SSA to just magically win the entire major and make for some wild funny things🙏😂

    • @JamesWilliams-tj4ee
      @JamesWilliams-tj4ee ปีที่แล้ว

      they aren’t even there bro 😂

    • @Ginja_DaNinja
      @Ginja_DaNinja ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JamesWilliams-tj4ee oh shit lmao, I'm like tbates with that Daniel pick then lmaooo. Elevate all the way😂😂

  • @dzoxy.
    @dzoxy. ปีที่แล้ว

    the disrespect on retals is crazy

  • @DZ-jm1my
    @DZ-jm1my ปีที่แล้ว +2

    bates making the worst takes so that whenever he's wrong he can pull the "I'm joking" card

  • @madinge711
    @madinge711 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbates impression farming again 😂

  • @christopherguerra9537
    @christopherguerra9537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Johnny needs to do a better job at ranking players not where their team will place but how they individually will perform as well, he can’t use the argument both ways for every one of these…

  • @ethanluke5130
    @ethanluke5130 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least Daniel won something relating to the spring major😂

  • @Codandub
    @Codandub ปีที่แล้ว

    We somehow need more bates but also much less bates

  • @09ziyad
    @09ziyad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alpha > Vatira
    Killeerz > Rw9

  • @syn311
    @syn311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If nwpo was here he would be 1st

  • @j.9465
    @j.9465 ปีที่แล้ว

    tbates out of his mind