@@xenbtw9336 Nah, not that simple, scrub got fucked over pretty bad during those times, truly a series of unfortunate events. First, being the best player on Vitality, he got the boot so they could make a full french roster (how'd that go for them? I can't seem to find them at this Lan 😂) Then Mouze had some sketchy contract issues that scrub wasn't comfortable with, and as much as people want to give him crap for leaving that roster because of that, no right-minded person would recommend you stay with an org that isn't transparent with their contract stuff. He had some issues with a few other teams after that with Guild and Singularity but I don't think it's ever been an issue that he was the worst player on those rosters which caused the issues, just look at his success now with Dig, he just needed a good team to make him shine. He always been grinding, he just had some shit luck with the pro scene since Vitality made that awful decision.
I love how much Roll Dizz changed his opinion since the fall preditions giving EU alot more respect. Have only seen 11-25 yet but so far he has the best list imo
Even TBates, who's about the biggest NA fanboy I've ever seen, has a lot more non-NA in his list this time around. A few silly takes scattered in here, but a lot of stuff that I actually agreed with this time around. For Fall major I was sitting here all jackiechan.jpg.
Roll's been gassing up EG and rightly so. I dunno why people sleep on them so much, especially when the other borderline top 5 teams in EU are so talented at choking
Who's back here after G2 and Atomic smashed the event?? TBates was on the money, everyone else called him crazy! Gotta put some respect on his name damn.
I don't think Tbates believes half the things he is saying in these predictions. He's just making bold predictions for entertainment and if he's right on any of them he can claim how genius he was and if not who cares lol. At least his predictions are better than Stumpy's were last time.
@@gameplaynation4280 Gibbs predicted the bracket reset if I'm not wrong. Bates predicted that g2 wins without bracket reset, but after the reset happened, he still went with g2. I might be wrong though
Johnny…. I can’t stand for this. WHY ISNT YUMI UPSIDE DOWN???? Look I get why for CJ, he’s in NA. But Yumi is still home. Gotta get him properly oriented!
I agree with Yumi in that I would love to see SRG make it to at least top 4 this major. Like any of the teams that will be there, they have a chance to win it all, but the competition is stacked. I don't know who will ultimately win, but I think Queso, Dig, SRG, NRG, Faze, BDS, Endpoint, and G2 will round out the top 8 this LAN. Just a feeling, I don't have great or well-thought out arguments.
Honestly, I don't think g2 will go top 6 but the reason they did bad last Lan is cause Chicago and jknaps did not step up, dreaz played well but the dynamic duo did not play how they normally do. Adding atomic instead of dreaz is an upgrade and I do think the duo will step up this time. That said he's delusional putting atomic 2nd and g2 beating srg and I'm a g2 fan.
The color thing is pretty neat. Actually to this day, colored papers only have the same several colors. You can see the individual dots that make up the spectrum of colors you see if you use a magnifying glass.
Tbates my lad, JKnaps is *NOT* one of the best strikers in RLCS. He's statistically the *worst* shooter on a top team in all of RLCS. Nor was he the best player for G2 at LAN - he was better than Chicago (the only time that's been the case in the past year), but he was worse than Dreaz. Dreaz was the *only* G2 player that showed up in every single game.
@@eXitus6455 yea but more shots generally means lower percentage look at nba 3pt percent curry’s isn’t the best all time but he’s clearly the best 3 shooter ever. I’d rather someone who shoots 10% but scores 4 goals a game than 100% and averages like 0.5 goals a game
He's considered a top striker because of his ability to place the ball. He is, almost without fail, picking a corner any time he shoots. And I would say JKnaps has been better than Chicago plenty of times in the past year. Chicago has some serious off days sometimes, and we all see it.
Johnny, you keep saying Squishy and Jstn don't go for enough demos while Garrett does. While you are correct regarding Jstn, you do realise Squishy has the highest demos per game on NRG every single regional? It's so easy to check your facts on octane, I'm surprised you don't.
Look at Joreuz and Seikoo on these lists. Basically monstrously mechanical fennec players that has legendary performances. It's funny to me that they are so similar in terms of what they do for their teams, so all the reasonable people on this podcast basically positions them exactly together. Joreuz and Seikoo are basically the the same player, though I'd put the better Jo at higher speed perhaps
@@MrPatrickbuit Maybe in terms of results for the whole team, but in terms of pure mechanics its gotta be joreuz tbh. Even the majority of pros voted Joreuz for highest mechanics after sweden, not Seikoo. But I think it's hard to compare them since they are so close, so their performance will depend a lot on their team as well. You could say Seikoo has been more utilized and been more usefull than Joreuz, but I think that's less about them, and more about their teams and matchups
@@Exsulator2 I said this split.. This split is the winter split and Joreuz hasn’t had the best winter split. Then again, Dignitas hasn’t in general because they kept losing to Queso.
I'm not buying the whole "It's SO different with a crowd" argument. Last time we had the "LAN experience makes SUCH a difference" argument, and we all saw how that one turned out.
Considering trk senzo Ahmad did perfectly fine with how impressive they were last regional, I’d say bringing Khalid would just ruin the chemistry. If they can’t place as good as they did last time that means a threat to Khalid’s position on sand rock
@@gregansbootstrap5352 LOL stop the cap. OKhalid is by far the best person on Sandrock, he is the best player in ME. Sandrock is going to do far better in the Winter Split with OKhalid there
@@alexwheeler5160 oKhaliD isn't the best on SRG, TRK is better by miles. But I do agree with you that oKhaliD is better than Senzo and I think they will be better than last time.
@@kalthami2225 and yet Okhalid is always top 5 on the leaderboards in all 3 categories, 1s, 2s, and 3s. Where is TRK? And in tournaments OKhalid also leads in stats, goals, saves and his shooting percentage is better. OKhalid is better in every way, the facts prove it
@@kalthami2225 and also saying that anyone is ahead of Khalid “by miles” shows how little you know about rocket league. With OKhalid always at the top, that is just a stupid statement to make
@@xens0l199 didnt say he wasnt. Same could be said for firstkiller. But out of pure class the guy who can do it all firstkiller is way higher than Jourez. Dont get me wrong hes very good offensively but Jourez lacks alot when it comes to defense
Joreuz, Firstkiller, Beastmode, Squishy, Rise and Trk are the MVPs, one of them will be the best player of the major ( would've added Monkeym00n and Seiko but I think they will bottle it ).
did you even hear what they said about him? everyone said that he has a great potential of being a top player in LAN, but there are too many unpredictable factors there to predict such a good form from him
@@misterragger2389 i did, but they didn't give me any solid arguments. 'way too many entangebles' is about the biggest copout answer you can give. There are so many teams and players that we haven't seen at LAN before. Besides, if you have SRG making top 6, then you're predicting Khalid to play well and thus he should be in this list.
@@peerberwers9503 but they talked about those variables. SRG come from a really good result in the last major, with a sub that did really great. Khalid is easily the player with the highest pressure on him. They will be about the last to travel, while having about the longest fly. The jet lag will be insane for these guys. Also, he'll be the only one in his team that's new to a major. And the multi regional lans tend to favour players with fast styles. I don't even think I said everything he said in the stream, and that's plenty of things to justify saying that he MIGHT be out of the top 25, specially when he says in the hounorable mention that he totally might be a lot higher!
From watching previous LANS and regionals, man when it comes to LAN I just can't doubt Squishy, he pops off a lot although he has some shit games online
They are always underrated lmao. I swear they talk about version 1 more then endpoint with how against they are towards them. From last regional 3 eu, Seikoo was the best on the pitch in every single match he played, including vs queso in the final. Vatira is not and will never be better then seikoo
@@ryanlunzen9794 imo you have to have that individual skill to be able to have the team chemistry and game intelligence, that’s why I believe they are massively underrated. Rwave should be on everyone of these lists at least
@@ollielynch4733 I agree with Relatingwave. He's a great player with a lot of individual skill but Metsa does not. He's on the worst in RLCS EU. But he's such a good Team Player and Leader that's what I mean with not high rated individually but works for the team. Endpoint can pop off but also be average, so I guess that's why some didn't put Relatingwave into the list.
@@ryanlunzen9794 Yeah I’m an endpoint fan but I completely understand their flaws. If their mentality isn’t literally the best in region, they lose. Metsa’s mechanics are fine but compared to other teams with 3 mechanical players like Faze, Queso, NRG and BDS, just having Wave and Seikoo there isn’t enough. They need top notch chemistry to make top 4 this LAN.
It's super weird that Johnny puts Rise at 8 because he is such a good third man and plays that role BUT then says Squishy doesn't. Squishy plays a very similar role to Rise... he down plays his skills on the NRG roster because he doesn't have to pop off...
Rise plays squishy’s role so much better then him, and he’s better at defense, stronger mechanics, faster, he can do anything squishy can do as a third man but better.
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For those wondering, 21 players turned up on all 5 lists:
Overall rank. Player - avg ranking
1. m0nkey - 2.2
2. jstn - 2.6
3. joreuz - 4.6
4. seikooo - 5.8
5. first - 6.4
6. vatira - 6.4
7. extra - 9.0
8. garrettg - 9.2
9. trk - 11.2
10. joyo - 11.8
11. squishy - 12.6
12. ahmad - 13.2
13. marc - 14.0
14. daniel - 14.4
15. scrub - 14.8
16. apple jacks - 15.2
17. chicago - 15.8
18. atomic - 16.2
19. rise - 17.2
20. beastmode - 20.8
21. yanxnz - 21.2
Why I took the time to calculate that, I do not know.
Really aprwciate the comment
i was bouta do the same thing thx for saving me time
I don't know why you did it either but I'm grateful. Cheers bud.
ahmad also appeared on all 5 lists
Where is Ahmad?
honestly its so cool to see Scrub so highly regarded again. its like the pandemic never happened and hes back to being a LAN contender
Damn straight, he’s always been goated
You thinking too deep he just stopped playing for a bit then grinded again
@@xenbtw9336 and?
@@xenbtw9336 Nah, not that simple, scrub got fucked over pretty bad during those times, truly a series of unfortunate events.
First, being the best player on Vitality, he got the boot so they could make a full french roster (how'd that go for them? I can't seem to find them at this Lan 😂)
Then Mouze had some sketchy contract issues that scrub wasn't comfortable with, and as much as people want to give him crap for leaving that roster because of that, no right-minded person would recommend you stay with an org that isn't transparent with their contract stuff.
He had some issues with a few other teams after that with Guild and Singularity but I don't think it's ever been an issue that he was the worst player on those rosters which caused the issues, just look at his success now with Dig, he just needed a good team to make him shine.
He always been grinding, he just had some shit luck with the pro scene since Vitality made that awful decision.
@@lickmynuts82 nothing to do with his skill so it is completely irrelevant to what I said please use your brain concierge
This group is so entertaining. Three and a half hours of peak chemistry. Thank you!!
I love how much Roll Dizz changed his opinion since the fall preditions giving EU alot more respect. Have only seen 11-25 yet but so far he has the best list imo
And he kept it solid all the way through
Even TBates, who's about the biggest NA fanboy I've ever seen, has a lot more non-NA in his list this time around. A few silly takes scattered in here, but a lot of stuff that I actually agreed with this time around. For Fall major I was sitting here all jackiechan.jpg.
@@DustinHorvath1987 But Tbates still refuses to give EU credit lmao. I’m happy he’s riding it out now
Roll's been gassing up EG and rightly so. I dunno why people sleep on them so much, especially when the other borderline top 5 teams in EU are so talented at choking
@@MrPatrickbuit I mean right now it looks like he was mostly right
Who's back here after G2 and Atomic smashed the event?? TBates was on the money, everyone else called him crazy! Gotta put some respect on his name damn.
#tbatesneverwrong !!!!
All members of this cast are so unbelievable humble funny and nice. Thx for content.
this is wild to watch post major hearing the (warranted) expectation for g2 to collapse
Love seeing Scrub Killa back on these lists, thoroughly deserved also.
Scrub plays 3rd man in dig really fucking well :D it suits him supporting 2 monsters, if dig plays well and no nerves they will win the whole thing
great to see him doing well on dig now, finally recovered from vitalitys major fuck up
This was so fun to watch lol
Chat was giving TBates L until he made Ahmad Number 1 LMAO
😂
Tbates never wrong
I don't think Tbates believes half the things he is saying in these predictions. He's just making bold predictions for entertainment and if he's right on any of them he can claim how genius he was and if not who cares lol. At least his predictions are better than Stumpy's were last time.
#tbatesneverwrong
He predicted g2 win on bracket reset which is quite insane…
@@gameplaynation4280 Gibbs predicted the bracket reset if I'm not wrong. Bates predicted that g2 wins without bracket reset, but after the reset happened, he still went with g2. I might be wrong though
And he predicted right! Lmao!
@@amadeus5539 iirc he actually said bracket reset on broadcast as well.
Godamn the Atomic discussion aged beautifully haha
35:37 johnny bates sync up was comedy
100% one of my favorite kind of videos to watch. Super entertaining, and PLENTY of content, thanks Johnny and everyone else.
i love this type of video so much lol theyre so fun
Tbates was right about Atomic lol
I love these, so fun to watch
That was so epic! :D
You guys are awesome, thanks a ton for making this and uploading it here, much much appreciated! Really enjoyed it :)
Love these so much. Will always watch so keep them up my friend 🤙
I don't know how those guys can keep their headsets on... while TBates is riffing in an octave that makes dogs whine
One of the very few videos I watched live, but as I was busy whilst watching, time to watch this again!
Johnny…. I can’t stand for this. WHY ISNT YUMI UPSIDE DOWN????
Look I get why for CJ, he’s in NA. But Yumi is still home. Gotta get him properly oriented!
I love this content. The banter is fantastic
Love this kind of video Johnny
how the hell did bates list age this well
Let’s go loving these vids
My favorite series on the channel, easily. I love you guys!!
Love the prediction content as per usual!
Roll Dizz became so freaking reasonable after the first major. I like his takes
3:30:55 yumi is a savage bro lmaoooo
A while ago I was looking for the same video, suddenly I got a notification, the same clip I was looking for
Here to say #tbatesneverwrong
Anytime u got tbates u know it’s gonna be a great video I am not of ashamed 2 watch this entire thing
Tbates having the SHITIEST opinions EVERY TIME , gotta respect the struggle
😂
I mean...some of his takes lookin pretty nice now that its over lol
I agree with Yumi in that I would love to see SRG make it to at least top 4 this major. Like any of the teams that will be there, they have a chance to win it all, but the competition is stacked. I don't know who will ultimately win, but I think Queso, Dig, SRG, NRG, Faze, BDS, Endpoint, and G2 will round out the top 8 this LAN. Just a feeling, I don't have great or well-thought out arguments.
Next time.... :C
@@Kibannn Yeah that sucks :/
Honestly, I don't think g2 will go top 6 but the reason they did bad last Lan is cause Chicago and jknaps did not step up, dreaz played well but the dynamic duo did not play how they normally do. Adding atomic instead of dreaz is an upgrade and I do think the duo will step up this time. That said he's delusional putting atomic 2nd and g2 beating srg and I'm a g2 fan.
monka beating 4-2 vs queso G2 is winning the major :)
Welp, no srg but this hasn't aged all that well
Same expectations about joreuz as me. Im excited AF for LA majors
G2 really made a statement at the winter Major, they’ll be reconsidering Jknaps and Atomix rankings for sure.
The color thing is pretty neat. Actually to this day, colored papers only have the same several colors. You can see the individual dots that make up the spectrum of colors you see if you use a magnifying glass.
That's a pretty cool observation.
Bates thought they were ranking by alphabetical order
But hes not wrong about Ahmad tbh, Ahmad is a goat
@@kyorakusama1385 agree
Ahmad is goated
@@kyorakusama1385 Ahmad is amazing but he’s not gonna be the best player in the world at LAN lol. There’s just no way.
i love these vids, i watch all of them. So funny :P
#TBatesNeverWrong
Extra is amazing. I don't think monkey m00n could be considered best 3s player if it was anyone but extra helping them out
Extra does the dirty work for BDS
I literally fucking love these bro
Tbates my lad, JKnaps is *NOT* one of the best strikers in RLCS. He's statistically the *worst* shooter on a top team in all of RLCS. Nor was he the best player for G2 at LAN - he was better than Chicago (the only time that's been the case in the past year), but he was worse than Dreaz. Dreaz was the *only* G2 player that showed up in every single game.
He takes way more shots which makes his shooting % go down. Def not as dominant as he used to be tho
@@adamgeorgeson8909 I don't think you understand the concept of percentage
@@eXitus6455 yea but more shots generally means lower percentage look at nba 3pt percent curry’s isn’t the best all time but he’s clearly the best 3 shooter ever. I’d rather someone who shoots 10% but scores 4 goals a game than 100% and averages like 0.5 goals a game
Best all time 3pt percent sorry
He's considered a top striker because of his ability to place the ball. He is, almost without fail, picking a corner any time he shoots.
And I would say JKnaps has been better than Chicago plenty of times in the past year. Chicago has some serious off days sometimes, and we all see it.
Roll dizz got the best list out of the 5
Johnny, you keep saying Squishy and Jstn don't go for enough demos while Garrett does. While you are correct regarding Jstn, you do realise Squishy has the highest demos per game on NRG every single regional? It's so easy to check your facts on octane, I'm surprised you don't.
He is a squishy hater doesn’t check facts and stats
This aged as well as milk left on the counter
Dude, this last 30min absolutely killed me lmao
guy at the corner put firstkiller #12 i’m dead 💀
I really hope you do a reaction these predictions after the major..
When G2 wins I wanna hear TBates LAUGH OUT LOUD
How did you know
37:18 why did this kill me bro 🤣😂
Edit: And 3:32:17
I wish Shalthis was still around for this kind of thing
Look at Joreuz and Seikoo on these lists. Basically monstrously mechanical fennec players that has legendary performances. It's funny to me that they are so similar in terms of what they do for their teams, so all the reasonable people on this podcast basically positions them exactly together. Joreuz and Seikoo are basically the the same player, though I'd put the better Jo at higher speed perhaps
Seikoo has been better all winter split than Joreuz tbh. Neither have been as good as during fall tho
@@MrPatrickbuit Maybe in terms of results for the whole team, but in terms of pure mechanics its gotta be joreuz tbh. Even the majority of pros voted Joreuz for highest mechanics after sweden, not Seikoo.
But I think it's hard to compare them since they are so close, so their performance will depend a lot on their team as well.
You could say Seikoo has been more utilized and been more usefull than Joreuz, but I think that's less about them, and more about their teams and matchups
@@Exsulator2 Seikoo, like a good number of players, has ridiculous mechanics, but players like jstn and joreuz have ~freakish~ mechanics imo
@@Exsulator2 I said this split.. This split is the winter split and Joreuz hasn’t had the best winter split. Then again, Dignitas hasn’t in general because they kept losing to Queso.
bates is a prophet
I'm not buying the whole "It's SO different with a crowd" argument. Last time we had the "LAN experience makes SUCH a difference" argument, and we all saw how that one turned out.
THEY'RE BACK
All of the Sandrock, NRG, and dignitas predictions aged really well🤣🤣😂😂
This aged well for Tbates….very well….
Tbates' reaction to EG and catalysm being put on the list already proofs that man ain't really watching EU
He made the best list here lmao
editor work at 2:35:20 is top tier btw
I Wanna see okhalid play on the big stage so I can see him on these lists
Considering trk senzo Ahmad did perfectly fine with how impressive they were last regional, I’d say bringing Khalid would just ruin the chemistry. If they can’t place as good as they did last time that means a threat to Khalid’s position on sand rock
@@gregansbootstrap5352 LOL stop the cap. OKhalid is by far the best person on Sandrock, he is the best player in ME. Sandrock is going to do far better in the Winter Split with OKhalid there
@@alexwheeler5160 oKhaliD isn't the best on SRG, TRK is better by miles. But I do agree with you that oKhaliD is better than Senzo and I think they will be better than last time.
@@kalthami2225 and yet Okhalid is always top 5 on the leaderboards in all 3 categories, 1s, 2s, and 3s. Where is TRK? And in tournaments OKhalid also leads in stats, goals, saves and his shooting percentage is better. OKhalid is better in every way, the facts prove it
@@kalthami2225 and also saying that anyone is ahead of Khalid “by miles” shows how little you know about rocket league. With OKhalid always at the top, that is just a stupid statement to make
Top 25 players on average:
1 M0nkey m00n
2 jstn.
3 Joreuz
4 Seikoo
Tied 5th Vatira
Tied 5th Firstkiller
7 Extra
8 GarrettG
9 trk511
10 Joyo
11 Squishy
12 Ahmad
13 MaRc_By_8
14 Daniel
15 Scrub Killa
16 ApparentlyJack
17 Chicago
18 Atomic
19 rise.
20 JKnaps
21 BeastMode
22 yanxnz
23 AYYJAYY
24 Catalysm
25 Fever
Vatira and Firstkiller should be higher than Joreuz.
@@Lonzology joreuz carrying dignitas hard so nope
@@xens0l199 didnt say he wasnt. Same could be said for firstkiller. But out of pure class the guy who can do it all firstkiller is way higher than Jourez. Dont get me wrong hes very good offensively but Jourez lacks alot when it comes to defense
@@Lonzology its because his teammates passing to him but jerouz goes for solo plays because he's the best 1v1 player in the world who just hates 3s
@@xens0l199 💀💀best 1v1 player ight. Do you not know how good FK is
Joreuz, Firstkiller, Beastmode, Squishy, Rise and Trk are the MVPs, one of them will be the best player of the major ( would've added Monkeym00n and Seiko but I think they will bottle it ).
Squishy and Rise? They aren't nearly as good as JSTN and Vatira
@@peerberwers9503 you will witness that...
You must have missed the tbates story, its gonna. Be a G2 vs SRG final, so none of those guys will be the MVP ;p
If Endpoint do poorly, I really don't think you can say Seikoo bottle it. M0nkey M00n also doesn't know what bottling is.
@@peerberwers9503 It seems I was right, Rise was the MVP.
It's taken me five days to get threw this and I still have an hour left lol.
2:52:20 I mean... that's just a rough soundbite after the LAN lmao
There is Scrub, and then there's a Scrub Killa.
I'm watching this after day 3 of lan and not seeing srg play is soul crushing
#TBATESNEVERWRONG
EG about to make bates go dark again
Tbates my man not sleeping on oKhaliD like these other fools
did you even hear what they said about him? everyone said that he has a great potential of being a top player in LAN, but there are too many unpredictable factors there to predict such a good form from him
@@misterragger2389 that's just a cheap copout imo. Johnny put Yanxnz in there last time, so why can't he out Khalid in this time?
@@peerberwers9503 Did you listen what they said about him or are you just assuming it is only because it's his first RLCS lan
@@misterragger2389 i did, but they didn't give me any solid arguments. 'way too many entangebles' is about the biggest copout answer you can give. There are so many teams and players that we haven't seen at LAN before.
Besides, if you have SRG making top 6, then you're predicting Khalid to play well and thus he should be in this list.
@@peerberwers9503 but they talked about those variables. SRG come from a really good result in the last major, with a sub that did really great. Khalid is easily the player with the highest pressure on him. They will be about the last to travel, while having about the longest fly. The jet lag will be insane for these guys. Also, he'll be the only one in his team that's new to a major. And the multi regional lans tend to favour players with fast styles. I don't even think I said everything he said in the stream, and that's plenty of things to justify saying that he MIGHT be out of the top 25, specially when he says in the hounorable mention that he totally might be a lot higher!
I was going off at season 3. I wanted kaydop to win and we dem girls was my favorite team back then
6:30 the best part of the video, Retals hardly deserves a honorable mention tho lmaoooo holding SSG back
Retals has been playing better than Arsenal tho. Even if Arsenal is more talented.
#BATESNEVERWRONG
Johnny has the best list simply because rise is above joyo
No jknaps is an L
Yeah Johnny that JKnaps honorable mention aged REAL well xD
Teams as well pls
I love when they have Chris Rock on as a special guest.
Ain’t that the mF who got slapped
From watching previous LANS and regionals, man when it comes to LAN I just can't doubt Squishy, he pops off a lot although he has some shit games online
cant believe CJCJ didn't put CJCJ first. humble
yumis and cjcjs facecams are turned upside down for some reason. pls fix
it says #ad, so were they paid by Psyonix to put this stream on?
Tbates was right
#TbatesNeverWrong
The guy things srg is gonna win🤡
I feel like ranking G2 players from fall major is a little iffy because they are a totally different team and easily play better with Atomic.
Bates' list is delusional but I want it to happen lmfao
Happened
@@JammerSupreme SRG sadge
Endpoint being massively underrated again
Nah. Their individual skill is way lower than their team chemistry and game intelligence. So they will be better than this individual list.
They are always underrated lmao. I swear they talk about version 1 more then endpoint with how against they are towards them. From last regional 3 eu, Seikoo was the best on the pitch in every single match he played, including vs queso in the final. Vatira is not and will never be better then seikoo
@@ryanlunzen9794 imo you have to have that individual skill to be able to have the team chemistry and game intelligence, that’s why I believe they are massively underrated. Rwave should be on everyone of these lists at least
@@ollielynch4733 I agree with Relatingwave. He's a great player with a lot of individual skill but Metsa does not. He's on the worst in RLCS EU. But he's such a good Team Player and Leader that's what I mean with not high rated individually but works for the team.
Endpoint can pop off but also be average, so I guess that's why some didn't put Relatingwave into the list.
@@ryanlunzen9794 Yeah I’m an endpoint fan but I completely understand their flaws. If their mentality isn’t literally the best in region, they lose. Metsa’s mechanics are fine but compared to other teams with 3 mechanical players like Faze, Queso, NRG and BDS, just having Wave and Seikoo there isn’t enough. They need top notch chemistry to make top 4 this LAN.
I would love a troll musty pick
2:28:40 Tbates man 💀
roll dizz didnt have arsenal high enough
Even as a g2 supporter I would like to say tbates is wrong
At least that’s not sleeping on okhalid
Nice tries by these guys but obviously Detonators "Mikan" is gonna be the best easily 🍊🍊🍊
No one's talking about the Chicago LAN leak...
Chicago LAN leak?
#Tbates never wrong
Sandrock wins major announced they arent going
Calling it right now, we’re gonna see LANiel! SSG top 4
Also every year they put these minor region players super high and then literally every time they never perform
55:50 I'll see you later, for now I must sleep
You should do top 10 goats of all time
It's super weird that Johnny puts Rise at 8 because he is such a good third man and plays that role BUT then says Squishy doesn't. Squishy plays a very similar role to Rise... he down plays his skills on the NRG roster because he doesn't have to pop off...
Rise plays squishy’s role so much better then him, and he’s better at defense, stronger mechanics, faster, he can do anything squishy can do as a third man but better.
Rise is the best Queso player for me.