@@d4rk678the thing is there so bad there will be like one Lan where na actually do really well and there all near correct and he'll never let it go forgetting that his 99.999% of all his other predictions were WAY OFF
Johnny you should use Excel's Conditional Formatting, and set it up so the player names automatically change to their region colour when they're revealed, so you don't have to keep colouring them every time.
15:20 CJ is SO RIGHT about watching SSG play. They are the epitome of NA RL, and it's an absolute snorefest to have to watch; such an absolute slog. If you start watching for it, no joke about 75% of all goals are demo goals, the remaining are about 20% huge overextension counterattacks or freak shots on net, and about 5% are skillful outplays. It feels like watching a bunch of 8th graders play a sport.
Tbates never fails to make me laugh with his takes. He really doesn’t want to admit that EU is just better than NA but he has to let that go cuz EU really are MILES ahead of the game
For awhile it was kinda close, bds showing eu was superior at worlds, but ever since Karmine and Vitality got thrown into the mix, it’s a dog fight between the big 3. Funny the best 3 teams in the world are all EU and almost all Frenchmen
Love that everyone already knows the bullshit Bates has cooked up for us. Looking forward to the video though, thanks Johnny (and obviously CJCJ, Daz and Yumi too - and Bates, I might not agree with your persona, but I know you're truly passionate about this esport, so thanks to you as well)
Ngl I like bates, but I wish he actually gave opinions instead of just arguing points he clearly doesn't believe in for the sake of arguing. It was funny back in rlcs x when first touch was new, but I'm so over it now. I just miss when people had genuine authentic takes, instead of just them trying to farm impressions
@SUBCHVRGE tbf you have a point. Last year before world he rated monkey moon top 5 after his London disaster while no one else did and he ended up winning worlds. He does tend to play the long haul
Tbates’ love for superstars comes from American basketball culture by the way. In basketball in the US right now it’s all about the superstar instead of the team (which ironically is why a lot of EU players are coming over here and winning even though they have less clips). It’s just an American basketball fan infatuation with star ability over winning ability.
johnny usually I never comment on ur videos but I just had to say I respect ur choice for 25 Joreuz and agree, he deserves a EU spot and deserves to lift some kind of trophy in his career.
@@jarredsmith1509 That is completely untrue. If that were the case, how come he has never won a single LAN MVP award in all the ones he's participated in? Please name a LAN where FK was the best player there, and since you said multiple times you can name a few of them.
@@jarredsmith1509 Yeah no, the only LAN MVP title won by someone on Faze was Mist as defensive MVP, in this seasons Winter Major. You're probably thinking of the regular season NA MVP title they gave to Firstkiller (a player on a team that didn't even make all 3 majors, but I digress). And that title does nothing to support the notion that Firstkiller might be better than Zen.
So for any new players that started watching rlcs recently. Up until this worlds (which is the 11th worlds btw) GarrettG was the only player to have attended every single worlds.
surprised RW9 ain't higher. he got shuned on last time (admitedly for good a reason, he was new to LAN), but come on, kid showed what he was capable of, and it was great to see. Surprised not to see M7sn on anyone's list either. He opened so much space for rule 1, expected to see him a bit in the 20s
this video is cursed the power of my house had been cut off 4 times while watching this vid on pc that had never happend to me before and yet to finish the vid
@@AliG-yu2bn he literally always spouts irellevant match stats for teams and players even though statistically speaking they shouldn't apple to a player's current ability. I mean, take the first major performance of each player. Whether they won or not has no statistical bearing on their current skill yet he uses it as his like only argument.
Man, I love hearing Yumi's opinion in these settings. He's so levelheaded and reasonable about everything, I just can't disagree with anything he says.
The one thing I don't understand is why they're factoring in matchups and how the teams place when considering who the best 25 players are.... Is this a team ranking or a player skill ranking?
Doesn't make sense to put someone in a higher place if the team is most likely to get kicked out of the tournament early. If for example Vitality wins it all you have to put all 3 players in top 10 atleast.
@@ryanlunzen9794 why not? I think everyone agrees Zen is the most talented player in the world right now... So if you pair him with a couple bronze players he's suddenly less talented?
@@Bradum He would lose in the group stage and you can't put someone as the best player If he doesn't play half of the games and loses all his matches. I agree that winning the tournament shouldn't be the main reason to pick the best player but you can't put someone in a place when he isn't able to show his talent.
27:16 didn't he nitpick vatira for missing the ball against furia at the top 25 players in the world and moved him from 2nd best player to 6th best player
I love that this just so clearly Shows not just that EU is by far the best but even more clearly that NA is by far the worst. All the highly ranked NA players are imported Talent except for the FirstKiller but lets be real everyone but johnny is absolutely huffing on that FirstKiller Copium Pack.
These lists are actually more revealing than people think. Last year, TBates ranked LJ unconventionally high, he and Rolldizz ranked Mist over AyyJayy, and they both had Retals off the list. Seeing that Chicago is now off Tbates' list... something tells me that there's going to be a roster move by G2 very soon.
I'll give my completely subjective and biased list, but only in relation to the other lists (below so no potential spoilers): Johnnyboi's #1 is my #1 Yumi's #2 is my #2 Johnnyboi's #4 is my #3 Dazerin's #4 is my #4 Yumi's #5 is my #5 Dazerin's #3 is my #6 Johnnyboi's #7 is my #7 Johnnyboi's #8 is my #8 Yumi's #13 is my #9 Dazerin's #7 is my #10 Yumi's #11 is my #11 Yumi's #16 is my #12 Dazerin's #13 is my #13 CJ's #18 is my #14 Yumi's #19 is my #15 Tbates' #11 is my #16 My #17 is not on anyone's list, but is the only player from this team not on Tbates' list, which has the other players at #1 and #15. Dazerin's #23 is my #18 Johnnyboi's #6 is my #19 CJ's #12 is my #20 My #21 is not on anyone's list, but is the only member of this team not present on Johnnyboi's list, which has the other members ranked at #5 and #14 Tbates' #15 is my #22 Dazerin's #24 is my #23 My #24 is not on anyone's list, but is Yumi's honorable mention at 0:51 My #25 is not on anyone's list, but is the only member of this team not present on Tbates' list, with the other members at #14 and #20 To anyone who took the time to figure it out, kudos to you & have a great day!
@@EminenceRL I admire your dedication - it is in fact correct! I sort of forgot about Kiileerrz, (I didn't focus on him the couple times I saw R1 play), and the Liquid trio I haven't watched a lot either so I just gave Atow a spot since they all seem great. But yeah, that's my list! Out of 10, what would you rate it? (Do I have hotter takes than Tbates?) Edit: I also made my list before watching the video, if that adds context
@@fargrond9937 I would probably give you an 8 or 9 your top 10 looks very similar to mine and it’s probably better than any of the lists in the video lol
I think the level of dominance from the top 3 EU teams, as well as recent results, has people placing people like AppJack lower overall. He's a phenomenal player, but team results also factor in. I myself have him around 8th on this kind of list - and I think top 10 going into worlds is a pretty high rating overall
It's 100% possible but FaZe are no doubt the most inconsistent team in NA possibly this whole tournament. They could win the whole thing or just as easily lose every series they play
he's insane, but like johnny said, you can't be the best performing player in the tournament if you only play less than a handful series. and that's very likely... should faze go far though, then it's a different story.
Right off the bat here. Personally I think jknaps is still a top 10, top 15 player worldwide. 1 first off cause he is so smart, 2nd off cause I think his peak play is still incredibly high. But he's not as consistent these days. I'd maybe put jknaps at... Idk like 18. Cago would be my honorable. But I've also been a long term g2 fan like my boy Bates.
33:32 I have not yet wached the entire vid. But Radosin in 20th place is nonsense! He makes 2 or 3 realy bad plays (like oungoal and saving tm8s shots) and ppl forget all of the realy good plays by him...nah. Rado is troling sometimes but still such a great player. He is one of the players who made the perfect split and he did not get carryed there.
We never talk about the fact that bates gets absolutely shit on and then ends up being way more valid/right than people gave him credit for. People rly hate just to hate like obviously there’s gonna be some picks you don’t agree with but you’re trying to make a list that predicts the performance of all these teams in a game with so many comebacks and impossible to predict matches and they’re asked to measure individual performance and someone acts like one player who they disagree with being placed out of 72 players is like such a crime.
He's there because some NA kids hype him up. He's not funny, his lists are just boring tries to be funny, anything he says doesn't make sense. I really like Johnny but he and RLCS has to get rid of him.
@@ryanlunzen9794 i agree and he is an analyst, which makes it even worse. In terms of RLCS knowledge, he is the one with the lowest, compared to the other broadcast members. Tbates is only there for entertaiment, in every part of a show and Lan Events. But to be honest, i think the other casters and people on the desk can also hype things up, so why should he stay there.
@@mavco4639 Johnny delivers high quality content and was considered one of the best analysts and commentator of the game since 2015. It doesn't fit into his channel and I would love to see a top lost with shogun and some real experts. Everyone here could be replaced. At RLCS LANs it's ridiculous that this guy is still a thing.
@@mamamia5668 I am very chill. It's not about the list, it's about how he's consistently making the weirdest takes and arguments everywhere (this list, live broadcast, twitter, etc) feels like his whole persona is about going against the grain, while that's funny at times, it doesn't make for a good host/analyst. Just my opinion and obviously no hate towards him.
@@hamster7290 Sorry guy - I've tried 3 times to copy the link on here but TH-cam removes them for moderation and I doubt Johnny will be reviewing them any time soon. I've got a link, just don't know how to get it across to you.
Johnyboi, This video changed my life. My entire view of everything that exists in this world. In fact even in the entire universe. I Can never look at anything i know the same again.This video represents emotions that most humans could never understand. But i can. Thanks to this video i was awekened to Many things previously considered unimaginable. Thank you for this exquisite video, I wil never forget this experience
Fun fact, only 1 time has a team made back to back grand finals at a LAN… that’s just Queso/Moist. Since then, including this season, no team has made back to back GF… so it’s at least unlikely Vitality, or BDS make the GF and if they do it’ll be mighty impressive
Damn it actually happened and pretty convincingly actually with BDS and Vitality dominating their opponents all the way to the GF, afc having an EU top 4 lan helped a lot for this to happen
@@Nobody-eu6tb absolutely crazy honestly… but also something else I historically should have taken into account is the spring roster change buff, last 2 world champions now made changes in spring, and both BDS and Vitality made changes in spring… id guess the same thing will have next season
Oski 23 how is that crazy. He was the worst on liquid in Boston. They finished top 8 barely beating optic and it the gameplay wasn’t clean at all. I don’t see how liquid make it further this time but I would love to see it
Why are the Vitality players blue? Edit: Being this is going over your heads NA adopted Vitality as their own at the Spring Major. Vitality is now NA was the joke. wth?
Bds is genuinely the most disrespected team oat in literally every other list they have done NO ONE has had their second place team get lower than fourth in the next prediction also bds has been on a constant ascension to this whole season so why do they just drop off now how they just don’t rate them and idk why
Seems to me that everyone always seems to forget that bds’ MM has been the best player in the world for nearly 3 years now. He will remind everyone who he is at worlds
@@gregansbootstrap5352MM isn't the best player in the world atm. MM is definitely a top 10 player, on LAN he is one of the best. I expect BDS going strong again since they are all LAN experienced players and with their 2nd place with Seikoo playing really well I don't get how they put him so low.
@@gregansbootstrap5352 MM on LAN is definitely a top 5, online maybe aswell. Top 5 should definitely include Zen, Vatira, Alpha. After that Rise, MM, Exotiik, Seikoo, Firstkiller, Killerz, Rw9, Atow, Oski On a good day Itachi, Jack and Joyo are there aswell. It's hard to make a list since these players are so close anything can happen. But Zen and Vatira are consistently above everyone else. Who would you pick?
@@ryanlunzen9794 I actually agree with literally all of those except for FK, who’s team hasn’t proved any results and didn’t even make this last major. May I ask why you chose him specifically in the top 10?
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Before I see the top 3, I just gotta say that with Vatira at 4, I am actually shaking with pure terror for what is to come.
I won’t lie, I was happy to see Zen in his top 3. I was so sure until it was revealed that Bates was just gonna leave Zen off the top 25.
Don't wear fu*cking masks, only victims are wearing masks!
For me it's alpha54 or zen 1st 2nd rise 3rd vatria or monkeymoon or rw9
32:48 "radosin's gonna give you two goals... and he is gonna give the other team two goals too!" 😭😭😭😭
deletes comment so i cant destroy you with hard facts.
@@CrossBone97 you are real tough over a screen aren't you guy
@@iclarkyyy nah just dont reply to me then delete it so i cant prove your statement wrong
@@CrossBone97 too bad lol
I mean the fact that this is bates most accurate list this whole season really tells you all you need to know about his opinion
Bates' top three is actually criminal
How
Who is bates?
@@urboyhaykal4984the 2nd to the left with the FT in the left corner
@@urboyhaykal4984the dude who thinks 2 NA players are in the top 3 rlcs pros atm
@@LalaChimiAnyDayOfTheWeek 2 NA pros in the top 3, NA players shouldnt be near top 5 let alone 3
Words cant express how much I look forward to this video every few months.
forfuckingreal these are always the best
all tbates tbh
Have to applaud TBates' commitment to the NA agenda. Delusional but entertaining.
LOL
The fact that yumi's list is surprisingly accurate to my list makes me happy.
For bates, i just have no clue
I have no idea where Yumi is here but I guess it’s cool he got a mention, still don’t know why rocket league though.
The liquid respect is weird
I've convinced myself bates does it for impressions cos otherwise I just don't believe anyone can be that stupid
@@d4rk678the thing is there so bad there will be like one Lan where na actually do really well and there all near correct and he'll never let it go forgetting that his 99.999% of all his other predictions were WAY OFF
I mean literally all 5 list is trash lol , I don't get those people who call out Bates for his shitty list but praise the other 4 shitty list 💀
Typical Johnny not putting Squishy in his top 25. Actually insane.
squishy hasnt been relevant for 2 years lmfaoo
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@@sisco_rl7160this is top25 WORLDS players. But either way he isn’t top 25
Typical Johnny not putting Jstn, Beastmode, Daniel, Squishy, Ayyjayy or any other of the top 5 NA players in his top 25 players at worlds :^)
@@Dlww4outdoors40bro he’s joking 🤦♂️
12:20 someone in chat predicted it 😂
That’s crazy
Johnny you should use Excel's Conditional Formatting, and set it up so the player names automatically change to their region colour when they're revealed, so you don't have to keep colouring them every time.
CJCJ is way too funny to be on this channel lmfaooo
CJ is the beeeest. I watch RLCS games that I don't even care about the outcome if CJ is casting, because he's just hilarious lol.
@@DustinHorvath1987 me too lol
Tbates and CJ is the greatest duo of all time.
15:20 CJ is SO RIGHT about watching SSG play. They are the epitome of NA RL, and it's an absolute snorefest to have to watch; such an absolute slog.
If you start watching for it, no joke about 75% of all goals are demo goals, the remaining are about 20% huge overextension counterattacks or freak shots on net, and about 5% are skillful outplays. It feels like watching a bunch of 8th graders play a sport.
What a wake up call after worlds😅
Tbates never fails to make me laugh with his takes. He really doesn’t want to admit that EU is just better than NA but he has to let that go cuz EU really are MILES ahead of the game
For awhile it was kinda close, bds showing eu was superior at worlds, but ever since Karmine and Vitality got thrown into the mix, it’s a dog fight between the big 3. Funny the best 3 teams in the world are all EU and almost all Frenchmen
@@gregansbootstrap5352 first is best in NA but not the best oat
@@gregansbootstrap5352 if france opened their own region, EU would suddenly be irrelevant and NA would still be 2nd place after france ;D
@@MrLowbob facts
@@MrLowbobthat's so real dude 😂
CJ and Bates teaming up was the best moment of all of these rankings, it’s not close lmao
Tbates “walk the walk” shirt is iconic as much is it is ironic
Top 5 teams in Worlds:
Vitality
KC
BDS
GENG
RULE1
Liquid is such a dark horse by the way
Complexity>geng
furia my?
Glad to see my man rise. being properly appreciated this time around.
Love that everyone already knows the bullshit Bates has cooked up for us.
Looking forward to the video though, thanks Johnny (and obviously CJCJ, Daz and Yumi too - and Bates, I might not agree with your persona, but I know you're truly passionate about this esport, so thanks to you as well)
Ngl I like bates, but I wish he actually gave opinions instead of just arguing points he clearly doesn't believe in for the sake of arguing. It was funny back in rlcs x when first touch was new, but I'm so over it now. I just miss when people had genuine authentic takes, instead of just them trying to farm impressions
his takes are actually huge brain. they just don't take place for like 10 months. spring split 2024, watch out 🥶🥶🥶 🤣
@SUBCHVRGE tbf you have a point. Last year before world he rated monkey moon top 5 after his London disaster while no one else did and he ended up winning worlds.
He does tend to play the long haul
@@majesticmo5048 rated Alpha as well
@@zenderzagato8174 true
Mist at 15 was absolutely wild
Tbates’ love for superstars comes from American basketball culture by the way. In basketball in the US right now it’s all about the superstar instead of the team (which ironically is why a lot of EU players are coming over here and winning even though they have less clips).
It’s just an American basketball fan infatuation with star ability over winning ability.
100 percent.
The prediction series is one of my favorites, thank you for the wonderful, entertaining content
Bates is really re-living his glory days with the g2 picks. It worked once, big guy.
johnny usually I never comment on ur videos but I just had to say I respect ur choice for 25 Joreuz and agree, he deserves a EU spot and deserves to lift some kind of trophy in his career.
Aztral and Joreuz just comforting each other in a corner😂
TBates' lists are so intentionally troll but at least he's got a thorough explanation for each one lmfao
How do you explain that first killer is going to be better than zen when there has not been a single a major that he was ever better than zen ever.
The only time he was better than zen at a major is when zen couldn’t even play in the major
@@thesilentproducer7632First killer has been the best player at a Lan multiple times.
@@jarredsmith1509 That is completely untrue. If that were the case, how come he has never won a single LAN MVP award in all the ones he's participated in?
Please name a LAN where FK was the best player there, and since you said multiple times you can name a few of them.
@@jarredsmith1509 Yeah no, the only LAN MVP title won by someone on Faze was Mist as defensive MVP, in this seasons Winter Major. You're probably thinking of the regular season NA MVP title they gave to Firstkiller (a player on a team that didn't even make all 3 majors, but I digress). And that title does nothing to support the notion that Firstkiller might be better than Zen.
Rewatching this as warmup for the new ranking stream for Copenhagen tonight
So for any new players that started watching rlcs recently. Up until this worlds (which is the 11th worlds btw) GarrettG was the only player to have attended every single worlds.
surprised RW9 ain't higher. he got shuned on last time (admitedly for good a reason, he was new to LAN), but come on, kid showed what he was capable of, and it was great to see. Surprised not to see M7sn on anyone's list either. He opened so much space for rule 1, expected to see him a bit in the 20s
Haven’t watched rlcs in a year excited to see how this event unfolds
How.
Wtf was Bates top 5 😂
We need like a top 36 players next time when you can pick out of 72 players
I legit got so excited when I saw this on my feed
TBates @ 6:50 "There's a couple of people my list that have been grinding..." I see you TBates #G2OnTop
this video is cursed the power of my house had been cut off 4 times while watching this vid on pc that had never happend to me before and yet to finish the vid
Love the content man these videos are my all time favourite pieces of rl content. ❤
52:45 Johnny unintentionally talking about himself 👀
When does he ever use stats when rating players lol.
@@AliG-yu2bn he literally always spouts irellevant match stats for teams and players even though statistically speaking they shouldn't apple to a player's current ability. I mean, take the first major performance of each player. Whether they won or not has no statistical bearing on their current skill yet he uses it as his like only argument.
irrelevant* my spelling is wildin lmfao
1:07:23 the stats are just blowing my mind
How did CJCJ even come in the conversation for the worst list while bates is just there with the most criminal list ever
Johnnyboi_i is cold for this one 🥶 😂 1:17:03
ive watched a few of these and bates and cj actually have a nice little bromance happening there....occasionally theyre on the same wavelength
JB!!! LOVE YOU BRO. I NEED TO SEE A PRO 4V4 ON THROWBACK STADIUM.
YEEEE CONTENT!! Much love all!! See you at worlddss
I don't think radosin is far behind alpha. I think on a list like this they have to be within 5 places of each other.
these keep getting longer and longer lol i have to watch in 1.75 speed. but its fun
Man, I love hearing Yumi's opinion in these settings. He's so levelheaded and reasonable about everything, I just can't disagree with anything he says.
The one thing I don't understand is why they're factoring in matchups and how the teams place when considering who the best 25 players are.... Is this a team ranking or a player skill ranking?
Doesn't make sense to put someone in a higher place if the team is most likely to get kicked out of the tournament early.
If for example Vitality wins it all you have to put all 3 players in top 10 atleast.
@@ryanlunzen9794 why not? I think everyone agrees Zen is the most talented player in the world right now... So if you pair him with a couple bronze players he's suddenly less talented?
@@Bradum He would lose in the group stage and you can't put someone as the best player If he doesn't play half of the games and loses all his matches.
I agree that winning the tournament shouldn't be the main reason to pick the best player but you can't put someone in a place when he isn't able to show his talent.
27:16 didn't he nitpick vatira for missing the ball against furia at the top 25 players in the world and moved him from 2nd best player to 6th best player
The biggest crime is no one putting Motta on their list. He's definitely the best player representing SAM at the world championship.
I love that this just so clearly Shows not just that EU is by far the best but even more clearly that NA is by far the worst. All the highly ranked NA players are imported Talent except for the FirstKiller but lets be real everyone but johnny is absolutely huffing on that FirstKiller Copium Pack.
These lists are actually more revealing than people think. Last year, TBates ranked LJ unconventionally high, he and Rolldizz ranked Mist over AyyJayy, and they both had Retals off the list. Seeing that Chicago is now off Tbates' list... something tells me that there's going to be a roster move by G2 very soon.
I love Chicago and jknaps but they are both of them are so far behind mechanically at this point I don’t see how they can keep them
BRO CALLED IT
I'll give my completely subjective and biased list, but only in relation to the other lists (below so no potential spoilers):
Johnnyboi's #1 is my #1
Yumi's #2 is my #2
Johnnyboi's #4 is my #3
Dazerin's #4 is my #4
Yumi's #5 is my #5
Dazerin's #3 is my #6
Johnnyboi's #7 is my #7
Johnnyboi's #8 is my #8
Yumi's #13 is my #9
Dazerin's #7 is my #10
Yumi's #11 is my #11
Yumi's #16 is my #12
Dazerin's #13 is my #13
CJ's #18 is my #14
Yumi's #19 is my #15
Tbates' #11 is my #16
My #17 is not on anyone's list, but is the only player from this team not on Tbates' list, which has the other players at #1 and #15.
Dazerin's #23 is my #18
Johnnyboi's #6 is my #19
CJ's #12 is my #20
My #21 is not on anyone's list, but is the only member of this team not present on Johnnyboi's list, which has the other members ranked at #5 and #14
Tbates' #15 is my #22
Dazerin's #24 is my #23
My #24 is not on anyone's list, but is Yumi's honorable mention at 0:51
My #25 is not on anyone's list, but is the only member of this team not present on Tbates' list, with the other members at #14 and #20
To anyone who took the time to figure it out, kudos to you & have a great day!
Bet give me like 15 minutes
1 zen
2 vatira
3 rise
4 alpha54
5 fk
6 monkey moon
7 the bull
8 appjack
9 rw9
10 radosin
11 Atow
12 seikoo
13 lj
14 chronic
15 atomic
16 itachi
17 Sypical
18 noly
19 ExoTiiK
20 Crr
21 m7sn
22 mist
23 ajg
24 fever
25 juicy
Not sure if you forgot killeerz lol
@@EminenceRL I admire your dedication - it is in fact correct! I sort of forgot about Kiileerrz, (I didn't focus on him the couple times I saw R1 play), and the Liquid trio I haven't watched a lot either so I just gave Atow a spot since they all seem great. But yeah, that's my list! Out of 10, what would you rate it? (Do I have hotter takes than Tbates?)
Edit: I also made my list before watching the video, if that adds context
@@fargrond9937 I would probably give you an 8 or 9 your top 10 looks very similar to mine and it’s probably better than any of the lists in the video lol
@@EminenceRL I'll take it lol
G2 did in fact beat rule 1
How is apparently Jack so underrated
I think the level of dominance from the top 3 EU teams, as well as recent results, has people placing people like AppJack lower overall. He's a phenomenal player, but team results also factor in. I myself have him around 8th on this kind of list - and I think top 10 going into worlds is a pretty high rating overall
I feel people sleeping on fk. I think he is going to pop off at worlds
Fk is him and faze in general plays better at LANs. They have a better chance at winning it all than the rest of the NA teams
But seriously he’s gonna be number 1?
It's 100% possible but FaZe are no doubt the most inconsistent team in NA possibly this whole tournament. They could win the whole thing or just as easily lose every series they play
@@YHWHsam I mean, yeah. Still means FaZe has less than a 10 percent chance though
he's insane, but like johnny said, you can't be the best performing player in the tournament if you only play less than a handful series. and that's very likely... should faze go far though, then it's a different story.
Tbates somehow manages to have the worst opinions all the time
Listening to the faze talk in hind-site is golden 😂
Right off the bat here. Personally I think jknaps is still a top 10, top 15 player worldwide. 1 first off cause he is so smart, 2nd off cause I think his peak play is still incredibly high. But he's not as consistent these days. I'd maybe put jknaps at... Idk like 18. Cago would be my honorable. But I've also been a long term g2 fan like my boy Bates.
33:32 I have not yet wached the entire vid. But Radosin in 20th place is nonsense! He makes 2 or 3 realy bad plays (like oungoal and saving tm8s shots) and ppl forget all of the realy good plays by him...nah. Rado is troling sometimes but still such a great player. He is one of the players who made the perfect split and he did not get carryed there.
Cj love for mena is the most beautiful thing 😂😂😂❤️
1:12:15 funniest moment of all time
ive never agreed more to a list then i do with Dazerin's list.
I defenitely do too but kash>noly and exotiik is a bit low tbf
40:15 someone come feed Johnny his words.
"Oxygen must be going 1-3 if the players are that low" so uhhhh I've got something to tell you Johnny
It's crazy to see that each of those top 25 lists only have between 2 and 5 native NA players, what a "major" region lmao
i’m glad bates and cjcj are bc if not it would be boring w the exact same list, it’s nice to hear (while being far fetched) a dif take
Yeah it's so great to have a random bullshit list instead of picking it by past performances.
There's nothing interesting about TBates lists.
We never talk about the fact that bates gets absolutely shit on and then ends up being way more valid/right than people gave him credit for. People rly hate just to hate like obviously there’s gonna be some picks you don’t agree with but you’re trying to make a list that predicts the performance of all these teams in a game with so many comebacks and impossible to predict matches and they’re asked to measure individual performance and someone acts like one player who they disagree with being placed out of 72 players is like such a crime.
Everyone needs to look at the camera in disbelief more often 😂
I didnt watch this live did it take an hour and a half to start again?
monkey did not get top 2 to be 11th in the world cj 😭😭 ahmad wasn't even present and he is 5 higher
I don't get the ahmad hype from cj. If any mena player was to even be top 5 it would be the twins or trk Always one guy who underrates monkey
@@majesticmo5048 Monkey moon, my favourite mena player.
@@senorlodensteinmonkey moon isn’t mena
@@Dlww4outdoors40he was being sarcastic mate
@phoenixe-sports1836 nah he's just joking about a typo I made
The more time goes on, year after year, i just can't deal with tbates anymore. All he does is make outrageous takes and argue with everyone.
He's there because some NA kids hype him up.
He's not funny, his lists are just boring tries to be funny, anything he says doesn't make sense.
I really like Johnny but he and RLCS has to get rid of him.
@@ryanlunzen9794 i agree and he is an analyst, which makes it even worse. In terms of RLCS knowledge, he is the one with the lowest, compared to the other broadcast members. Tbates is only there for entertaiment, in every part of a show and Lan Events. But to be honest, i think the other casters and people on the desk can also hype things up, so why should he stay there.
@@mavco4639 Johnny delivers high quality content and was considered one of the best analysts and commentator of the game since 2015.
It doesn't fit into his channel and I would love to see a top lost with shogun and some real experts. Everyone here could be replaced.
At RLCS LANs it's ridiculous that this guy is still a thing.
dude hes fun. Take it chill, this list means nothing
@@mamamia5668 I am very chill. It's not about the list, it's about how he's consistently making the weirdest takes and arguments everywhere (this list, live broadcast, twitter, etc) feels like his whole persona is about going against the grain, while that's funny at times, it doesn't make for a good host/analyst. Just my opinion and obviously no hate towards him.
Who wants to see this 'prediction of top 25 performers'? Just do top 25 players
Bates is such a lunatic, he trollin' for sure lol.
How many players are there at worlds again, CJ?
Is there any way i can access this top 25 list to make my own or is it something exclusive?
I have a Google Doc that will do this, including row-reveals and automatic region colour assigning, but I have no idea how to share it on here.
@@Snapey81 you could copy the link of the Google doc and send it here right?
@@hamster7290 Sorry guy - I've tried 3 times to copy the link on here but TH-cam removes them for moderation and I doubt Johnny will be reviewing them any time soon. I've got a link, just don't know how to get it across to you.
@@Snapey81 fair, thanks for trying!
"They're a team full of champions" - TBates says about G2.
He's so right though, they are champs 😂
Champ 2 tbf ;)
It’s the first time I agree with TBATES . Firstkiller on TOP
Johnyboi, This video changed my life. My entire view of everything that exists in this world. In fact even in the entire universe. I Can never look at anything i know the same again.This video represents emotions that most humans could never understand. But i can. Thanks to this video i was awekened to Many things previously considered unimaginable. Thank you for this exquisite video, I wil never forget this experience
No shot you still have that profile pic in 2023
Fun fact, only 1 time has a team made back to back grand finals at a LAN… that’s just Queso/Moist. Since then, including this season, no team has made back to back GF… so it’s at least unlikely Vitality, or BDS make the GF and if they do it’ll be mighty impressive
I Love Rise, im a massive fanboy. And BDS being there again would put them in conversation of reaching Dig levels of success
@@interycreeper1152 rise would also be the only player to do if 2x if that happened… he’s just so clutch on LAN and plays so solid every time
Damn it actually happened and pretty convincingly actually with BDS and Vitality dominating their opponents all the way to the GF, afc having an EU top 4 lan helped a lot for this to happen
@@Nobody-eu6tb absolutely crazy honestly… but also something else I historically should have taken into account is the spring roster change buff, last 2 world champions now made changes in spring, and both BDS and Vitality made changes in spring… id guess the same thing will have next season
My List:
1.zen
2.M0nkeyM00n
3.Vatira
4.Alpha54
5.Rw9
6.crr
7.rise.
8.Firstkiller
9.Reysbull
10.ApparentlyJack
11.Kiileerrz
12.Atow
13.Oski
14.Radosin
15.trk511
16.itachi
17.Seikoo
18.Atomic
19.Joyo
20.Ahmad
21.Lj
22.ExoTiiK
23.Chronic
24.drufinho
25.ajg.
Idc what anyone says I love Tbates wild takes and his personality.
It definitely adds some entertaining back and forth, but if we're being honest he is absolutely delusional 90% of the time
Jknaps needs more respect from everyone else
I'm certain a random number generator would clear Bates list
Typical Johnny not putting Jstn, Beastmode, Daniel, Squishy, Ayyjayy or your other favorite NA bubble player on his list :^)
Johnnyboi vs Feer with AppJack commentary
would prefer this without bates to be honest
I have watched back the older ones. Bates did in fact not vome put on top.
45:00 Johnny has lost his mind bro it was a single LAN talk about recency bias
Atomic has in fact “balled out”
Oski 23 how is that crazy. He was the worst on liquid in Boston. They finished top 8 barely beating optic and it the gameplay wasn’t clean at all. I don’t see how liquid make it further this time but I would love to see it
I used to enjoy Bates but I'm so over it now. #BringBackStumpy
the legend of the knapsack will rise again as G2 will ride him to the semi finals
Yumi’s list would be amazing if he swapped any of aztromick or venom for chronic imo… and Atomic clearly better than ajg for johnny 👌🏼 so close
I should be in the top ten atleast I can’t lie
Why are the Vitality players blue?
Edit: Being this is going over your heads NA adopted Vitality as their own at the Spring Major. Vitality is now NA was the joke. wth?
The colors represent regions
Eu blue
Na red
Mena green
Yellow SAM
@@brasefr Whoosh!
@@asdwzxckjqjk Whoosh!
@@iamjamesmix it sounded like u were asking y they werent yellow because those are their main colors, or at least thats what i thought u were asking
Radosin underrated
okay, jknaps is showing up tbates
What is the color coding that Johnny does? I'm lost.
Regional colouring
Bds is genuinely the most disrespected team oat in literally every other list they have done NO ONE has had their second place team get lower than fourth in the next prediction also bds has been on a constant ascension to this whole season so why do they just drop off now how they just don’t rate them and idk why
Seems to me that everyone always seems to forget that bds’ MM has been the best player in the world for nearly 3 years now. He will remind everyone who he is at worlds
@@gregansbootstrap5352MM isn't the best player in the world atm. MM is definitely a top 10 player, on LAN he is one of the best.
I expect BDS going strong again since they are all LAN experienced players and with their 2nd place with Seikoo playing really well I don't get how they put him so low.
@@ryanlunzen9794 curious who you think the best player in the world. I’d say MM is at least top 5 still.
@@gregansbootstrap5352 MM on LAN is definitely a top 5, online maybe aswell.
Top 5 should definitely include Zen, Vatira, Alpha.
After that Rise, MM, Exotiik, Seikoo, Firstkiller, Killerz, Rw9, Atow, Oski
On a good day Itachi, Jack and Joyo are there aswell.
It's hard to make a list since these players are so close anything can happen.
But Zen and Vatira are consistently above everyone else.
Who would you pick?
@@ryanlunzen9794 I actually agree with literally all of those except for FK, who’s team hasn’t proved any results and didn’t even make this last major. May I ask why you chose him specifically in the top 10?
I wish i could see johnnys face after g2 won swiss
GO G2
BOOO JOHNNY❤
They gotta get tbates off these debates
Is NA vitality better than EU vitality? Asking for a friend.