Im frustrated. As a Protestant… very frustrated with everything I was ever taught. Went to my first Catholic Mass last week and I have deep desire to attend again.
I’m currently in OCIA (meaning I’m converting to Catholicism, in my case, from Protestantism as well). I and pretty much every convert will tell you: Catholicism is all of Protestantism plus SO MUCH MORE. I can’t wait to be received into the Church at Easter Mass. Your desire to go back to Mass is natural. Keep praying to Jesus to show you the Truth. May God bless you, friend. ✝️❤️
Where in the Bible does it say your self proclaimed pastor can intercede for you? The Bible teaches us that anyone can pray for one another. Just like you would ask someone to pray for you unto God, we Catholics asked Mary to pray for us unto God too. That’s called intercession. It’s biblical!
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people- 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 1 Timothy 2:1-2
Christs Actual Church, the Orthodox Church!! ☦︎ Christ has risen! God Bless you, and i wish you a Good Start into your new life, in the Original Church, The Orthodox Church!! ☦︎ And i assume Orthodox, because you said Christs actual Church, and that's the Orthodox Church. ☦︎
All denominations of Christianity will send you to hell. Just be a Christian and stay away from churches and denominations that twist the teachings of the bible
@@LonelyyPoisonCatholic and Orthodox are pretty equal, both apostolic. The main difference is a few basic beliefs that either one could be right or wrong on. But none vital to salvation it seems, so not too big a deal. I’m Roman Catholic myself, but I have a deep respect for my Orthodox brethren.
Christ's actual church are the people whom the Holy Spirit dwells, people who surrender their life to Jesus, people who do not use and do not bow down to ANY graven images be like in heaven or on earth, people who follow Christ, not the tradition of men.
Jesus was giving away to us everything that was dear to him, Even during the last moments of his life. Jesus gave Mary to us as our mother who will intercede for us. When he said the words to Mary and his beloved disciple John. "Woman behold your son and son behold your mother". Now why would Jesus call mother Mary as mother of John? Answer- Cause he was giving her away to the world as our mother and what does a mother do. Prays for us, protects us, loves us, obtains forgiveness for our sins by prayer to the father. Mother Mary is the new eve the queen of heaven and the Catholic doctrine is the truest of all doctrines available out there. Everything in the Catholic doctrine is deep and makes complete sense. I practiced Islam for a year and came back to the Catholic church and became stronger in my faith. Peace to all and I hope everyone gets rewarded for genuinely seeking God..
It annoys me, as a Catholic convert from Protestantism, that Protestants say that we worship Mary when in fact we venerate her and other saints who are more alive than us in heaven and they say that we can’t ask her to intercede when in fact the first verse of the passage of 1 Timothy that he pleads Christians to intercede for one another. Also, God finds it rude for people to smudge Mary when in fact she is called blessed and said all generations will call her blessed (St. Luke 1:48).
I will assume you meant venerate, since generate makes no sense in the context. 1st Timothy specifically states that such intercessions are to be made in the context of prayer, and not on behalf of their sin. And not to God directly. If Jesus died for my sins, whose intercession do I need? And if I need intercession, why did Jesus die on the cross, if His blood is not sufficient to cover my sins?
@@CrusaderofGodEditz John 3:16 seriously? You’re going to twist that into that Christians who die now have eternal life immediately ? No no, Jesus the describe the dead as asleep in Matthew 9:24, so there body’s resting and souls are resting till the day of judgement like it says in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 and revelation 20:13 Plus in Exodus 20:3-5 GOD clearly doesn’t want us to pray to anyone or anything but HIM
But literally in Hebrew 7:25, it says “Hebrews 7:25 New International Version 25 Therefore he is able to save completely[a] those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.”
God the Father or God the Son? Also there is no exclusionary language here, which indicates that it is acceptable for someone (such as a saint) to intercede to God through God. Unless you can find such rhetoric that is exclusive or otherwise contradictory, you cannot say it is unbiblical.
Biblical proof for praying to Mary and Saints Through Jesus we are priests (mediators/intercessors) Rev 5:9-10 and they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy art thou to take the scroll and to open its seals, for thou wast slain and by thy blood didst ransom men for God from every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and hast made them a kingdom and PRIESTS to our God, and they shall reign on earth." Angels and Saints in heaven can hear our hearts because repentance is of the heart. Mary can hear our prayers. Luke 15:7 Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance. Saints in heaven receive the prayers of the Saints on earth. Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;
@ Hey thanks for the response, but in the verses you put were does it say you can pray to marry? And in the last verse you put from Revelations, it’s important to read it in context, those saints died from being martyred and were praying to God to and asking Him how long will it be till He avenged there blood on the earth Revelation 6:10 And in the verse you quoted from revelations, is basically around the time where God decides to avenge them They weren’t praying for anyone on earth, but for themselves Lastly, praying to Mary and saints and angels is not biblical, and it didn’t really take over the early church to mainly around the 3rd-4th century, so around 300 to four hundred years after Jesus and the apostles There is no point of passing to them, we have a interest in Jesus our Lord and if we don’t know what to pray for, then The Holy Spirit can intercede and pray for us and through us. Mary and The saints most likely don’t fully know we even exist, they are enjoying themselves most likely
@@averythompkins3682 how can you say that praying to saints is not Biblical? Bible teaches that through Jesus we are made Priests (mediators/intercessors). Based on Rev 5:9-10, Christians are priests(mediators/intercessors). Mary is a Christian, therefore she is a mediator/intercessor. Based on Luke 15:7, Christians in heaven know our hearts bcs repentance is of the heart, therefore Mary can hear our prayers in heaven. Based on Rev 5:8, saints in heaven receive prayers, therefore, Mary receives our prayers. The saints receiving the prayers in Rev 5 are not the slain saints. The slain saints are not discussed until Rev 6. Moreover, a distinction is made between the slain saints and the living creatures in Rev 6. The four living creatures were showing John the contents of the opened seals. Seal 5 contained the slain souls. Rev 6 proves saints in heaven are not oblivious of earthly events and are aware of them. Praying to saints is attested in scripture. Mediation of Jesus is different from mediation of saints. Jesus mediation is the formal cause of our salvation. Our mediation/intercessory role is praying for one another in this life or the next. Prayer requests are not limited for earth but we can also ask saints in heaven for prayer requests because they continue to be priests (mediators/intercessors). They can hear us.
@@averythompkins3682 not to be rude, but do you understand what it means to partake in divinity? I doubt the saints are just “enjoying themselves most likely”. It’s funny how many of these claims you make are not biblical, for example, “The Holy Spirit can intercede and pray for us and through us”… Do you understand what intercession means? Suggesting this of the Holy Ghost is borderline blasphemous. I would get a literal translation, for better context and configured understanding. More over, your comment of the knowledge of the saints. What biblical evidence suggests these shawty opinions of yours? Also, your exigencies are not accurate, they don’t fit into the surrounding context, especially in the Apocalypse. Ave Christus Rex
My cousin didn’t have the best life and his mom was never in his Life and she still isn’t in his life so he always says MY REAL MOTHER IS IN HEAVEN… MARY❤
@@LibbySlaughter101 How old do protestants claim the earth is again lol? Critical thinkers protestants are not. You are just good at ignoring all the inconsistencies in your faith which are transparently false. Such as sola scriptura.
Revelation 12 says the woman was pregnant and in labor pains. Catholics say she was immaculately conceived and birthed Jesus without pain. These two things contradict each other. Either the woman from revelation isn’t Mary or she wasn’t immaculately conceived. Either is dogma so the Mary doctrine is factually false. Pray to the one in heaven who matters, our father in Christ name.
My brother it’s crazy how many times we have to explain this to the Protestants. And as much as we explained they still don’t want to understand. Great video💯📿
John 14:6-7 NIV [6] Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. [7] If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
@@Hgxts that's wrong! You confess your sins to God, and Jesus died for your sins already! You don't need a third person for that! MARY WAS JUST A WOMEN!!!!!
Mediator or intercessor, there isn't anything in scripture. What there IS though is "no-one can come to the father except through me". Only The Lord can be our intercessor.
@@dave_ecclecticLuke 11:27-28 New International Version 27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” 28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
@@ArgentWarrior NIV LUKE 1 You seem to have skipped over Luke here. _48for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. _*_From now on all generations will call me blessed_* So, she is blessed. and the woman in *27* is of a generation...and has called her blessed. So, that is correct. Then Jesus says _“Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”_ And you think this negates Scriptures earlier statement that Mary was blessed? Rather Jesus is confirming His mother is blessed. Has Mary not *heard* the Word of God? Has Mary not *obeyed* the Word of God? Now we go a bit earlier and we have... _38“I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her._ Not only has Mary Heard the Word of God but she has Obeyed God. she also Carried the Word of God and delivered the Word of God. In both cases this also makes her the first evangelist. If you prefer a Biblical quote for this too. John 2:5 _His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”_ Notice that you may HEAR the Word of God, and you may obey it.... you have not carried or delivered the Word of God. Basically, what the woman in *27* was commenting on. _27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”_
Jesus emphasizes that attentiveness to God’s will is more important than having a biological relationship to Him, since right before this happened he was teaching about how to keep your house in order and not let unclean spirits dwell there. That does not equate to Him rebuking His mother.
@@murielpucoe9213He all Mary full of grace Lord is with thee blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus Holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of her death amen.
@bradleesargent they died and they can see each other, but not in here that's why he says they have Moses and the Prophets in here they are not gonna believe not even if someone came from the dead.
@bradleesargent And Jesus said it no one came to the Father except through me in the Bible doesn't said pray to Mary or go to Mary because she is your intercessor remember our God is a jealous God he can do everything without someone telling him what to do he is the only way to the Father.
At the end of the day the one thing both a Protestant believer and a Catholic believer should have in common ABOVE ALL ELSE, is Salvation in Jesus Christ, by faith thanks to God’s grace ✝️❤️🔥🙏🏻
Catholics the need to confess sins to a priest instead of going straight to God. Also believe in Mary as an intercessor where we can intercede for each other and also trust that Jesus is interceding for us already.
@ninobarrientos Mary is the virgin mother of our lord Jesus christ, hand picked by God the father himself. She deserves more respect than the way protestants treat her.
@@ninobarrientos so you are saying once you are dead you are finish? No, your body is tmdead, then your soul lives on and souls can have something to say to the living by the mercy of God. Mother Mary is our mother who intercede for us to Her son our Lord Jesus Christ. To Jesus through Mary
the Bible tells us to pray to God the Father, in the Name of God the Son, by way of God the Holy Spirit. We only pray to God, by God, and in the name of God. He gets all the glory. ❤
@@ShuyikaHenryActually I know you won't believe and I don't blame you because I don't remember which one BUT I'm pretty sure rev 5:8 is an example if the saints
@rubyring2461 also Catholics and Orthodoxes denie sola scriptura. So they believe in the saints intercession because of tradition. I'm pretty sure there's quite a few church fathers (the Apostles successors) that talk about it.
The Visitation (in addition to the Wedding Feast at Cana) is also a revelation of how Mary mediates her Son to us. It is at her word that St John the Baptist leaps in his mother's womb. A created word, the word of the Blessed Virgin Mary, mediates the divine Word of God to St John the Baptist for his sanctification and St Elizabeh as well.
How do you get all that from those passages? You think that she mediates Jesus to us now because John the Baptist leaped in her mothers womb? Why is it that this is not made clear in the epistles by the apostles if this is so. Jesus says that it is the Father who draws us to Him (John 6:44). The Holy Spirit baptizes us into Christ (1 Corinthians 12:12). There is no role of a human mediator or intercession bringing us to Christ. It is all done by God. I think this is a problem with some doctrines people hold to: they are often eisegeted or read into a text without the text clearly stating it. For instance here, the leap was made from two account about specific situations to a universal application where Mary is given a present role that God has not revealed about her in scripture.
You do teach Mary died and rose again and call her Mediatrix but i know you not believe she is God our Savior but somehow we can call on her for help with Son in Heaven.
@@TomPlantagenet At the Visitation, the supernatural effect of Mary’s greeting is made explicit by the Word of God itself: "And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit." You disagree with the Holy Spirit's testimony or with Elizabeth's? For she herself testifies that "the sound of your [Mary’s] greeting" is that which has precipitated John's leap in her womb. The charge of eisegesis can be an escape hatch when plain assertions about Scripture cannot be countered. I assert that the sound of Mary’s greeting caused both the leap of John in the womb and Elizabeth's being filled with the Holy Spirit. And I base this on Elizabeth's own testimony, a testimony regarding cause and supernatural effect. You simply do not like the inevitable conclusion and so level the charge of eisegesis. Though you would readily concede the power of the Ark of the Covenant (made.of wood and gold) in the Old Testament, you fail to recognize this same God now working through a human person.
@@biblicalmariology it says that Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit when Mary spoke, however it does not say that Mary caused her to be filled with the Holy Spirit when she spoke. This is a matter of God‘s sovereignty. Likewise, the ark did not have power, it was God who operated over the ark. Again, God is the power over both the ark and the one who caused Elizabeth to be filled with the Holy Spirit, not Mary, You have not responded to what I actually wrote. My concern here it is taking these passages in Luke 1 and John 2 and then reading into them the fact that Mary somehow mediated between us in Christ. Scripture does not explicitly or implicitly say that and as I’ve showed you with John 6 and first Corinthians 12 . the Scriptures would argue against that very thing you are asserting. There is only one mediator between God and man and that is Christ Jesus. It is not Christ mediated through Mary. Jesus is the intercessor between God and man. It does not say that Jesus is interceding by Mary. That is clearly an eisegetical interpretation. Here’s the thing, what are you trusting in for your salvation? Is it your baptism, Good works, church membership? Or Jesus Christ ? The Bible teaches that we are saved by “grace through faith and not by works”(Ephesians 2:8-9).If you believe that you need to do something in order to get salvation then you are trusting in what you do. You can say it’s grace, but if you’re doing something to get saved then it is works.(Romans 11:6). God sent Jesus to die in our place to pay for our sins (1 John 2:2). Jesus then rose from the dead to give us new life (John 11:25-26). That is what saves us. It is the Person and the Work of Jesus Christ which makes us right with God. Our sins separate us from God (Isaiah 59:1-2); therefore, they must be paid for (Hebrews 2:17)and we must be born again(John 3:3). That is what Jesus’ death and resurrection accomplishes. The work of Christ is Imputed to us by God’s grace through faith (Roman’s 3:21-26; John 3:16). Nothing we can do can contribute in any way to our salvation. It is a free gift that is being given to us and all we can do is humbly receive it by trusting in the Person and Work of Jesus Christ.(1 Corinthians 15:1-5; Acts 16:31). Finally, we are either trusting in Christ or we are not(John 14:6). There is no faith in Christ plus our works equals salvation. Partially trusting in works (baptism, charitable giving, other sacraments) means not trusting in Christ. If you are adding works to the gospel, then you are lost (Galatians5:4) and on your way to hell. You are believing another gospel (Galatians 1:8-9). I emplore you to repent of this false gospel and your sins and receive the free gift of salvation that is only found in Jesus and His death for our sins and His resurrection. (Romans 4:25). Remember the Pharisee and the tax collector (Luke 18:9-14). I’m not writing this to win an argument. I’m writing this in love. I’m a beggar who was given food and I’m showing you where to get it.
@@TomPlantagenet Thank you for your reply. I will try to respond to your concerns paragraph by paragraph. 1. Elizabeth recognizes and testifies to this causality: "at the sound of your greeting." She finds the coincidence remarkable enough to declare it, to confess it. We are in agreement over the sovereignty of God over all things. And yet He works through His creatures and through Mary in a singular way. Let us not forget that she is carrying the Christ within her womb, much like the Ark contained the Divine Presence in the Old Testament. Another OT example of God working through His creatures can be seen in Judith: "The Lord our God slew him [Holofernes] by the hand of a woman" (Jud 13:19). 2. I also believe that you have not adequately responded to what I have written, insofar as I have laid out in both passages the revealed mediation of Mary. Re: Jn 6:44 - "No man can come to Me, except the Father, who hath sent Me, draw Him. As mentioned above, God is the final cause of all things, drawing all unto Himself. And yet, God works through His creatures to draw men unto Himself, as it is written in Romans 1:19-20 - " Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them. For the invisible things of Him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; His eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are without excuse." God draws men to believe in Him as the Creator of all through creation itself. Therefore, that the Father draws men to Christ is by no means mutually exclusive with the mediation of creatures. After all, you were baptized not by yourself, but by another. You came to faith because someone preached to you the Word of Truth or you read the Word of Truth as written by a human person. So, too, the mediation of the Christ -- at both the Visitation and the Wedding Feast at Cana -- by Mary does not exclude by rather glorifies, indeed, amplifies, God's omnipotence. This, in fact, is the entire logic of salvation as revealed in Gen 3:15, namely, that the devil would be crushed by the foot of the Woman, by the same sex he first presumed to deceive. God is All. There is no question regarding His sovereignty. The question I put to you is whether you believe He is at work through His creation, and most especially, through those who have been created in His image and likeness. So, again, like the passage of Judith above: God is the final cause, and the woman is the instrumental cause. Re: 1 Cor 12:13 - "For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body..." The same principle applies. The Holy Spirit is the divine agent, and yet human agency is also involved. I.e., you did not baptize yourself, nor did you come to faith without another human's agency. St. Paul mediated to you the above reading, and St. John the prior reading. The Holy Spirit is the Divine Author, and yet the human authorship is also valid to speak of. 3. I trust in God's mercy and grace for my salvation. 4. You're off topic here -- no longer speaking of mediation -- but are articulating a typical Protestant point known as sola fide. Perhaps another day. 5. "God sent Jesus to die..." No problem here. Agreed. 6. Imputation of grace is a Lutheran idea and discounts the actual transformative power of grace to change us from within. For example, Catholics believe that Baptism effects an ontological change of the human person, that is, a change of one's very being. Thus we do not equivocate when we claim to be a "new creation" in Christ. Imputation, however, does equivocate in this regard. 7. Again you beg off to a tangential point regarding faith vs. works. No progress can be made if you do not stay on topic. 8. You ostensibly are showing me where to get my food in Sacred Scripture. But in reality you offer yourself as my food. You have no authority to interpret the Word of God in a definitive manner. That authority was given only to Christ's Church, of which I have been made -- by God's sheer mercy -- an unworthy minister. I therefore speak to you of truths from the treasury of the Church, a veritable banquet of the limitless wisdom of the inexhaustible Word of God. You, on the other hand, invite me to partake of a meager and bitter meal of a heretical Augustinian monk. Please understand if I decline.
@@Awhina-Lee The Bible says you are to love God, with ALL of your heart, mind, soul and strength. Do not replace God with anyone, no, not even the mother of Jesus.
@@LibbySlaughter101 It is NOT replacing. The MOTHER of JESUS stood at the foot of the CROSS. She suffered unimaginable Sorrow. Do you really believe that Jesus would accept your dissing of HIS Mother?
@@marilynbrown5274 Of course she suffered terribly but nowhere in the Bible does it say we are to pray to her. Your assertion that I disrespect her would sadden Him. Only one person died for your salvation - only one person could - the sinless Son of God.
@@LibbySlaughter101 I'm a mother and my love for my children derives from my love for Jesus. I love him more than mine own and I love the blessed mother. You made something out of nothing and read into my comment the same way you read into scripture, your own narrative.
No ,read holy Bible properly ,you are descendents from apostles chruch but afterwards they started following all the stuffs it is not said in holy Bible ,we should only take mary as an example ,not more than that
@@priyadharshinim9017 Sola Scriptura is not explicitly taught in the Bible, and the canon of Scripture wasn’t finalized until the 4th century under the authority of the Church. This raises a critical question: how can the early Christians, who lived faithfully for centuries without a finalized Bible, be considered less Christian than those who rely on Sola Scriptura today? It’s also worth noting that Catholics and Orthodox Christians, who adhere to the original canon, make up over 2 billion believers worldwide, while Protestantism is largely concentrated in the United States. Given this, why was it deemed acceptable during the Reformation to remove several books that had been accepted as Scripture for over a millennium? Where in the Bible is the authority to retroactively reject texts that the early Church recognized as divinely inspired? For example, the Book of Tobit-removed from Protestant Bibles-contains Tobit 12:12, which clearly supports the theological concept of intercession. By rejecting such texts, Protestants reshaped the canon based on theological preferences rather than historical or apostolic precedent. This raises serious concerns about whether such actions were guided by divine truth or human innovation. Any departure from the sacred tradition of the Church risks undermining the integrity of the faith, a point worth reflecting on with theological seriousness.
@@priyadharshinim9017sola scriptura is not in the Bible. Also, the Bible wasn’t fully compiled until the 4th century. So do you feel like you are more Christian than the early Christians within the first 300 years of the church? Also, Catholics and Orthodox encompass over 2 billion Christians worldview. Most of the Protestants worldwide reside in America. I say this because I want to ask you why do you think it was acceptable for Protestants to literally remove books from the Bible? Where in the Bible does it say that it’s okay to retroactively delegate Scriptural texts as non-scriptural? Because if the Protestant Bible had the book of Tobit, you would have read 12:12, where it directly speaks to the ability to seek intercession. But Protestants decided to remove books they deemed inconvenient with their dogma. And that’s satanic. I must be honest
Romans 8:26-27 For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. Please read your Bible carefully so you won't be deceived .
Biblical proof for praying to Mary and Saints Through Jesus we are priests (mediators/intercessors) Rev 5:9-10 and they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy art thou to take the scroll and to open its seals, for thou wast slain and by thy blood didst ransom men for God from every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and hast made them a kingdom and PRIESTS to our God, and they shall reign on earth." Angels and Saints in heaven can hear our hearts because repentance is of the heart. Mary can hear our prayers. Luke 15:7 Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance. Saints in heaven receive the prayers of the Saints on earth. Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;
@ I am glad you agree that it teaches we are to pray for others. Saints in heaven do not lose their role as priest (intercessor). They are alive and can receive and hear our prayer requests Luke 15:7 Rev 5:8 Since Mary is Christian, she is a priest (intercessor). She remains intercessor in heaven.
@@James22426those do not say what you want them to say. At best they hear the prayers. The CC goes further and suggests intercession which is not just hearing, intercession requires action on the part of the intercessor
Deceived? The Christian church has always been praying through Mary. Even Martin Luther, the Reformist, also practiced this. The discarding of this tradition is a new modern innovation. So you tell me who is deceiving who
I don't need an intercessor. I've got Jesus. Why go to the assistant when the boss wants me to talk to him directly. I don't want the boss angry with me.
@@matthewstolmeier752 you don’t need anyone to pray for you??? You don’t need the other members of the body of Christ? Wow. You’re guilty of violating 1 Corinthians 12. So guess what, the boss is already angry with you.
@VoiceOfReason_ I'm not guilty of anything idiot. You don't know me. Moron. Who are you to judge anyone? I certainly don't need any dead people as an intercessor. I have many living people who talk to Jesus, our Savior, as I do to help me. Now go away moron and learn what God actually wants for prayer. Maybe try learning what Jesus actually said about prayer. That way, you can stop yourself from looking completely stupid in public.
@@VoiceOfReason_how are you applying 1 Corinthians 12. Nowhere does it command we ask each other for prayers. The chapter is actually talking more about respecting the diversity within the body of Christ.
You immediately twisted what they said from "intercessor" to "someone pray for you" that's not what they said and it's the same twisting you must do to believe praying to the dead that cannot even hear your prayer, because they are not God. @@VoiceOfReason_
@@susansmadrid4699 Believe me the day will come when you will have to give account for every idle word you have ever spoken. That day will be too late.🙏
@@LibbySlaughter101 no I don’t need to believe you,I believe Jesus Christ, yes I will continue to love the saints , and follow the Taura , God is my mentor ,Blessed to be a catholic,, Amen to Jesus Christ
To everyone saying “where in the Bible does it say Mary is our intercessor” or “Christ said we can only go to the Father through him”, guys have you ever prayed for someone else? Have you ever asked someone to pray for you? That’s what an intercessor is. It’s still through Christ.
Biblical proof for praying to Mary and Saints Through Jesus we are priests (mediators/intercessors) Rev 5:9-10 and they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy art thou to take the scroll and to open its seals, for thou wast slain and by thy blood didst ransom men for God from every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and hast made them a kingdom and PRIESTS to our God, and they shall reign on earth." Angels and Saints in heaven can hear our hearts because repentance is of the heart. Mary can hear our prayers. Luke 15:7 Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance. Saints in heaven receive the prayers of the Saints on earth. Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;
@James22426 Umm no. You're taking verses out of context to fit a narrative, just like a Jehovah's Witness. No where does it say you're allowed to pray to a dead person let alone statues. Jesus fact checks your blasphemous narritive in the book of Luke. READ what Messiah said in Luke. Luke 1:33-35 Jesus replied, “Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?” 34 Then he looked at those around him and said, “Look, these are my mother and brothers. 35 Anyone who does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother. Luke 11:27-28 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. Kneel before God and repent for your blasphemouy!
@@Ken-h9r none of those verses refute the truth that we are Priests (intercessors), saints in heaven can hear us, and saints in heaven receive our prayers. Give me explanation of Rev 5:9-10, Luke 15:7, Rev 5:8
@@rachybaby72 She is alive because she is the ark of the new covenant and was ascended to heaven by the Lord as in Psalm 132: "8 Arise, Lord, and come to your resting place, you and the ark of your might."
@@ltk.mp3 you are praying to her and in that prayer sometimes you ask for intercession. “Pray the Hail Mary” who is that prayer directed to? Why can’t we just be honest and stop playing semantic games?
@@ltk.mp3 for context this is the Mary you pray to according to the “saints.” St. Bernardine of Sienna “that all obey the commands of Mary, even God himself” St. Germanus “Thou art mother of God, omnipotent to save sinners, and needest no other recommendation with God” St. Antoninus “God has placed the whole Church, not only under the patronage, but also under the dominion of Mary.” St. Peter Damian “the Virgin has all power in heaven as on earth
That’s a big lie! This is what Romans says: “Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.” Romans 8:34
The Bible says that saints also intercede for us. Rev 5:8 says, “And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.”
@@AlexRamirez.17 Early Christians interpret the Bible the way he is doing. Protestant came with their own interpretation and now any interpretation before the reformation is a roman interpretation no more interpretation of the early Christians. It seems to me you guys are the once twisting scriptures. You will always need the authority of the Catholic to interpret scriptures for you. The Catholic church has had that,authority since Jesus. The Eucharist is Biblical and yet you do not believe in it, James say faith without works is dead you refuse to believe, Jesus say to follow him carry your cross and yet you say works isnt needed for salvation, Revelation justifies the intercession of the saints you refuse to believe, Mathiew spoke of purgatory, you say it's not Biblical because you want God to use the word purgatory. God instructs Moses to make images on the Arc for Worship, you call catholic idols worshipers for making images of Jesus and heavenly icons...... yet you say the Catholics church is not Biblical. You Think we do no know about Christ being the one mediator ? We do but Even Christ in the transfiguration spoke to Moses an Elijah, If they could hear Christ why do you think the cant hear us? One mediator here one mediator there and yet you ask your friends to pray for you. God is just amazed by how you practice what you preach
Continuer votre bon travail! O Marie conçue sans péché priez pour nous qui avons recours à vous! 🌹🌹🌹 Jesus-Christ fils du Dieu vivant prends pitié de nous pêcheurs, soit miséricordieux pour nous et pour le monde entier.
@@Killth3batthat passage does not specifically call Mary an intercessor, it simply shows the one time she asked her son Yeshua to help the Wedding-goers with their Wine problem, in this context Yeshua was still alive in the flesh as well as the fact that no one went to Mary to ask her to ask Jesus, she simply asked him herself. That’s not interceding/intercession
I’ve tried to convert to orthodoxy/catholicism but everytime a question is asked that challenges their forms of idolatry an irrelevant verse is brought up or taken out of the context it was originally in to fit their narrative
Mary is the deceased mother of our Lord Jesus Christ. His mother is not to be venerated. Catholics and anyone else who prays to Mary is worshipping an idol. She is NOT an intercessor. She is dead. Christ is also our intercessor with the FATHER interceding on our behalf.
Jesus says "Pray to the Father through, me." You are recognising the sacrifice, so the Father sees you clean and free from sin. So, totally agree with you 100% Also, to the Catholics...why did your church change the 2nd commandment? Exodus 20:4 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Why did the catholic church split the 10th? Do you know, the first half of the 10 commandments is to honour God, the rest is to honour mankind. So what you did is put an honouring of mankind before the rest of the laws that honour God.
@@vincenthartzenberg5794 How can you say that you do not believe in the resurrection of the body in the afterlife when it is in the Bible? Matthew 22:30-32. Mary is in Heaven. She is alive. Mary can intercede for us. Anybody can intercede for anyone. 1 Timothy 2:1-4 calls for people to pray for others. Jesus does this too in Matthew 5:44. Hebrews 12:23 reveals that people in Heaven are made perfect and righteous. James 5:15 shows that the prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. We are simply not worshipping Mary. We are calling for her powerful intercession on us to bring us closer to God. The more we please Mary, the more we please Jesus. Wouldn’t you be happy if someone treated your mother with utmost respect and honour? This is why we have special devotions and artworks devoted to Mary. “Never be afraid of loving the Blessed Virgin too much. You can never love her more than Jesus did.” - St. Maximilian Kolbe.
Exodus 20:3-6 Amplified Bible (AMP) “You shall have no other gods before Me. “You shall not make for yourself any idol, or any likeness (form, manifestation) of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth [as an object to worship]
@@tenmrchicken2719 the Bible tells us to pray to God the Father, in the Name of God the Son, by way of God the Holy Spirit. We only pray to God, by God, and in the name of God. He gets all the glory. ❤
@@Star.Gore7If we take that literally(The Lord’s Prayer), it means we can only ever pray to God the Father and never to Jesus or the Holy Spirit either. There is also no mention in the Bible of anyone praying to the Holy Spirit. It’s problematic to base everything you believe on what is explicitly in the Bible, which is why I am currently converting to Catholicism. Biblical literalism and sola scriptura lead to all sorts of problematic interpretations and cults.
Rom 8;34 Jesus is at the right hand of God and makes intercession for us. 1John 2:1 Jesus is our Advicate with the Father. Heb 7;25 Jesus lives to make intercession for us.
When the disciples asked how they should pray Jesus said OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN He didnt say to pray to our mother in heaven Neither do we see ANY mention of praying to mary in the epistles Is the voice of reason Or voice of man Voice of ASSUMPTION
Praying to Jesus mother Marry is the same thing as asking a friend of yours or a priest to pray for you Stop over complicating you pray to a highly respected memper of heaven and in turn he/she/it prays to Jesus for you and that way your prayer becomes much more powerful Imagine having Jesus mother ask for your sh itty ass to be saved Jesus will be much more inclined to save you His freaking mother begs him to do it hes 10000000000% more likely to do it suddenly not because you deserve it but because hes own mother begs Him to do it and He respects way too much to let her request be completely in vain
Mary was less forgiving, less loving, and was a sinner in need of saving. Why would you think she’d listen to you more than Christ who desires that all reach repentance?
@@TheMarch05it’s not sola scriptura. . IT IS THE DOCTRINE this is why they said if anyone COME WITH ANOTHER DOCTRINE LET THEM BE ACCURSED and catholic people doctrine IS CURSED. THEY ARE SOLD DELUSIONS and can’t comprehend THE gospel Blind
James 5:16: "Therefore, confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective." "A righteous person is powerful and (((effective)))". Christians don't believe that any true believers are actually dead and gone, as jesus said in John 11:25-26 'I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?" The entire logic behind the thought of intercessors isnt that we're praying to them, but rather asking them to pray for us.
Talk intercession: Hebrews 7:25 ESV [25] Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.
@@kimperrine co-laboring mediator.. ..haha i like it. another tongue twisting word from Satan himself. Words were non existant a few years ago. like Cisgender, Genderfluid, Gender expression, Afluid, Pandgender...But Im happy to be called a Co-Laborer. I think more rights are needed for Co-Laborers
James 5:16: "Therefore, confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective." "A righteous person is powerful and (((effective)))". Christians don't believe that any true believers are actually dead and gone, as jesus said in John 11:25-26 'I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?" The entire logic behind the thought of intercessors isnt that we're praying to them, but rather asking them to pray for us.
@@kimperrine ur an idiot if you think thats the same as people in heaven receiving your prayers. someone that's alive on earth like you and is in your community is what the verses were talking about, and ultimately, it is still up to the will of God. No saint can nor Mary can overwrite that.
Romans 8 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Wedding at Cana she is an intercessor, all Christians are called to be Intercessors according to Scripture, and Jesus is the a King of the Davidic Kingdom so read 2 Kings ch 2, we see Bathsheba the Queen Mother make a request to her son Solomon, and he replies with "make your request mother, for I can refuse you nothing" the Queen Mother is also given a throne and sits to the right of the King in the Davidic Kingdom according to the Old Testament. Idk how Christians in 2024 can't see what the early Christians clearly saw, which is Jesus is King, making His Mother Mary the Geverah or the Queen Mother of the Davidic Kingdom. Jesus is the New Adam, the earliest Christians called Mary the New Eve, this makes too much sense and shows why Christianity brought so much dignity to women, which wasn't shown to them before Christianity. Gods greatest creation is a women
@@jd3jefferson556 NONE of that is valid. God does not share His glory with his creation, that is a HARD principle all the way through scripture, not some convoluted here and there scriptural twisting from human reasoning as you are doing. 'Queen mother'??? No, just NO.
@logofreetv if God didn't share His glory then there aren't any angels and saints in heaven. Not biblical! The Queen Mother has a huge role to play in the Davidic Kingdom, go read Kings it's in the Old Testament. I think you're jealous of Mary and you refuse to honor her even though she's the Mother of God and God's most perfect creation, He filled her to the brim with His grace more than any other creature ever. Behold your mother!
I love your content brother. But I wanted to mention that there is a very strong Catholic teaching, via many pontiffs, that Mary is the Mediatrix of All Graces. From Scripture it works like this: Jesus is the one Mediator between God and man insofar as He is both true God and true man, and we must be in Him to be saved. He is the one Bridge. But Mary truly mediates the human will of her Son. Check it out... at the Wedding Feast at Cana it is Mary who tells the servants, "Do whatever He tells you." So when Our Lord tells them to "fill the jars up to the brim" the servants obey not only Jesus but also (now transparently), with every subsequent command of Our Lord, they obey also (foundationally) Mary. So Mary mediates the obedience of the servants with her Son. There is no obedience to Jesus without a prior obedience to Mary: this is the revelation of the Wedding Feast at Cana, and it points to the teaching that Mary is the Mediatrix of All Graces. Pax brother!
Thanks for your comment. Can I ask an honest question? None of the apostles picked up on this teaching from John 2 in their epistles to the churches connecting our obedience to Christ and Mary. Do you know who the first church father was to make your point that “there is no obedience to the Son without prior obedience to Mary?” On the surface it seems like a real stretch of the passage.
If jesus is a mediator, a bridge connecting god and man, doesnt just mean he is a messenger, a prophet, not a god? Jesus himself said theres is only 1 true god, and he said he is a mediator between god and man, doesnt this show that he is a messenger only?
Because of the confusion over over the use of the term mediator in regard to Mary, the church encourages us to use other terms such as intercessor. She mediates Christ to us in many ways, the obvious being her motherhood of Christ. We honour her, but any legitimate honour leads us closer to Christ.
@@HeavnzMiHome thank you for your response! So you agree with the statement that was made, “there is no obedience to the Son that is not prior obedience to Mary?” And if so, I’m trying to find out where this thinking is first taught explicitly in Church history.
@@syafiqhabib1444 good question. I’m guessing your question comes from a Muslim background, and I totally understand where the confusion would come from. We both would agree that just as the complexity of creation is way beyond our full understanding, so is the nature of God Himself. In the same book that Jesus calls the Father, “the only true God” (gospel of John), equality with God is attributed to Him in several places. We believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons within the one true God. Each is fully God, thus God exists in relationship with Himself. This is how Jesus can be our mediator to the Father and be God at the same time, just as the Holy Spirit is God who lives in us. Thank you for reading; I hope that makes sense!
Right about Jesus! And He is not only our Mediator but the One who always is our intercessor. Hebrews 7:25-27 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them. For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens. He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself. Would have been a great spot for at least some mention of even one of the MANY special additional functions ascribed to Mary. Focus of the faith remains One and only ... Jesus.
Mary is not omnipresent. She can't hear your prayers. Jesus is our Mediator. Our fellow Christians are our intercessors. Also... in the hour of our death??? If Jesus quoted the Deuterocanon, why did He never quote that silly verse in 2nd Maccabees? If it was THAT important He wouldn't have mentioned it right? At least once or twice.
@@pebsstonesteel1424 Trying to change the subject to worship for some reason? Back to the actual topic: The Bible does NOT say anything about praying to ANYBODY but the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. And I am educated on what the Bible says. I've read it cover to cover multiple times. Have you? If you have some special version of the Bible, please point to a scripture that says we can or should pray to the saints (aka, other human beings). Don't just tell me I should learn more. Cite a scripture that supports praying to Mary or to the saints.
Jesus is both our Mediator and Intercessor. Romans 8:34, which states, "Christ Jesus is the one who died, but even more, has been raised; he also is at the right hand of God and intercedes for us". Hebrews 7:25: Jesus "always lives to intercede" for us. He is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one goes to the Father except through Him. Peace🕊️ The fact that he came to earth was to bridge the gap between Us and God and to break every other chain and Middle Men and everything in between... So why bring Mary or Joseph or Whomsoever Blah Blah Blah. ??
Deceived. ❤ you. Pray God restore those who are fallen and GRAB us. This is sick. I am so sorry I ever looked back to this damned cursed world and RULES by Satan greedy children.
Not Mary specifically, but all Christians are intercessors, we can find an example of this in Romans 15:30. Given the foundation that all Christians can intercede for one another it only makes sense that Mary and other saints are able of interceding for us, since they're very much alive and not dead like many say.
The topic is Mary's maternal mediation. Can it be truly said that Mary mediates Christ her Son to us? Is she the Mother of all believers? And what exactly did St. Ephraem the Syrian (+ 373) mean when he said: "After the Mediator, you (Mary) are the Mediatrix of the whole world" (Oratio IV, Ad Deiparam). I will attempt to demonstrate Mary's maternal mediation from Scripture. Primarily, the unique mediation of the "One Mediator," Christ Our Lord ought to be understood of His hypostatic union: i.e., He is both true God and true man and thus is, in Himself, the Bridge between God and man. In this sense, He is the Unique Mediator. The first Scripture is Jn 19:26-27: "Woman behold your son; behold your Mother." The interpretation put forth is that this is a universal proclamation of Our Savior, before His death, for all Christians: namely, that we must behold Mary as being our Mother in the order of grace. This claim is based on: 1. the term, "beloved disciple," which is the self-designation of the Evangelist, and which was inspired as such to be open to a universal significance; that is, that every person beloved of Our Lord is signified also in this name. 2. the unique fruitfulness of Mary's faith, which conceived Our Lord by the power of the Holy Spirit in the fullness of time at the Incarnation, and which at Calvary remained singularly fruitful in conceiving the life of grace within the Beloved Disciple and thus, by extension, within the heart of every believer, inasmuch as we have all been reborn by the saving mystery of Calvary. 3. the appellation, "Woman," by Our Lord, which situates the Crucifixion typologically in the context of a New Creation: a New Adam and a New Eve. Regarding the designation of New Eve, we first hear of this term in St. Justin Martyr (+ 165), St. Irenaeus (+202), and Tertullian (+ 240). Justine lived in Palestine. Irenaeus was born in Turkey and lived in France. And Tertullian lived in Carthage, N. Africa. Given the geographic diffusion of this 2nd century teaching, it most likely originated with the Apostles themselves. Therefore, as Eve was the mother of disbelief unto original sin, the New Eve is the Mother of faith unto our justification. The second passage illustrating Mary's maternal mediation occurred just days after the conception of Jesus Christ in her womb. At the Visitation, she carries, in haste, the Divine Presence to Elizabeth, who is six months pregnant with St. John the Baptist. Elizabeth testifies, "A soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy" (Lk 1:44). The interpretation runs thus. Mary communicates the grace of faith to both Elizabeth, who is filled with the Holy Spirit, and John, who leaps for joy. That is, grace is communicated through this word of faith to the hearers, hearers who are also in the Divine Presence of Jesus Christ. But Mary mediates the mystery through her word, which is the instrumental cause of this grace. The assertion is that her word is causal, in the effects evident in Elizabeth and John. And this interpretation is based on Elizabeth's own observation and confession. Jesus Christ, who is the source of all grace is the final cause of this grace, but it appears as working -- or mediated -- through a creature. A third passage that has been put forth above is the Wedding Feast at Cana (Jn 2:1-12), at which Mary enjoys a preeminent place: "And the Mother of Jesus was there." In this interpretation the will of the servants is observed to be first and foundationally obedient to the command of Mary -- "Do whatever He tells you" -- an obedience through which the servants pass as through a door so as to become obedient to Our Lord's subsequent commands -- "Fill the jars with water" and "Now draw out." In this way, Mary is seen to mediate the servants' obedience to her Son. This is a volitional mediation and, as such, demonstrates the principle "To Jesus through Mary." That is, as Jesus Christ first came to us sinners through the Woman, so we likewise return to communion with Him -- our obedience of faith -- through the Woman. This also respects the chronology of the Fall: the sin of Eve prior to the sin of Adam. Here we have the faith of Mary unto the righteousness of Christ. In the language of the Church Fathers, it is the untying of the knot of disobedience. A fourth passage demonstrating the maternal mediation of Mary is the Woman of the Apocalypse (Ch. 12). The Woman travails with her firstborn son, who is destined to rule all nations with an iron rod (i.e., the Christ). Subsequently, His brethren are also mentioned, also born of the Woman, although the birth is singular. The interpretation is that Jesus Christ has only one Mother, and since He has come to live in us, through justification by His Blood, we also have this same Mother. Thus also Jn 19:26 above, "Behold your Mother." In the above, Mary is observed to be the Mother of the Church, and the Mother of all believers. Her faith is singularly fruitful not only at the Annunciation, but also at Calvary unto the perpetuation of the life of Jesus Christ in the heart of believers.
1 Timothy 2:5 5. For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Luke 11:2 2. And He said to them, "When you pray, say: 'Father, hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.
@@Christusvinci Only a living member in the Body of Christ, redeemed by His Blood, can mediate for another. And the one who made this Blood possible (i.e., the Incarnation of the Word), by her maternal Fiat, still holds the same preeminent, maternal and mediating role for Christ's Body the Church. In other words: there is no Precious Blood (the Incarnation) without Mary's Yes; there is no redeeming Blood applied to your soul (the Mystical Body of Christ) without Mary's Yes. The Mother is not optional in the generation of offspring.
Correct For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; *by the which we draw nigh unto God* UNTO GOD THROUGH CHRIST NOT UNTO MARY OR THROUGH MARY 20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: 21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) 22 By so much was *Jesus made a surety* of a better testament. 23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost *that come unto God by him* , seeing he ever liveth to make *intercession for them* Workers of iniquity need to repent of their unbelief
John 11:25-26 ESV [25] Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, [26] and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?” Luke 20:37-38 ESV [37] But that the dead are raised, even Moses showed, in the passage about the bush, where he calls the Lord the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. [38] Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living, for all live to him.
Consulting the dead through divination is not the same as prayer. You are conflating the two. And the Bible says those who are in christ are not dead. Jesus talked to Moses and Elijah (both died for 100s of years before him) but he was not condemn for divination, was he?
In fact, we call her a "mediatrix of all graces," but the title cannot be held as separate from her son's sacrifice. Rather her role is so unified with that of her son that it contributes to his highest sacrifice. Paul says that "we fill up what is lacking in the death of Christ." Mary did so in a measure that no one else can hope to approach.
@guardtheham1233 Yes, intercession is direct prayer... you're praying directly to whomever you're asking for it... Give me one good reason why you can not go to God directly.
@tellthetruth6430 Yes, I watched the entire thing.... (Thank you for taking the time to respond, by the way) Answer these: What is a valid reason for praying to anyone other than God as a believer? Is Mary or any of the saints omniscient? When did Jesus pray to anyone other than God the Father or instruct anyone to pray to his mother or any of the OT saints? Your response is appreciated... Thanks!
Luke 11:27-28 New International Version 27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” 28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
I will simplify the equation: if anyone prays to anyone or thing apart from our Father in heaven according to His fullness, you are speaking to demons, unclean spirits.
@@asto5767 Actually, no. The only ones being pedantic are the ones removing all nuance from the definition of prayer. Prayer, by definition, doesn't exclusively refer to worship. So when we are simply asking for prayers, prayers that will be offered by Saints to our Lord and Savior in Heaven, and you want to walk right in and tell us we're "worshipping saints" regardless of context, you just come off looking extremely ignorant.
While Mary holds a special place as the mother of Jesus, the Bible makes it clear that her role does not grant her unique access to God. In Luke 11:27-28, a woman in the crowd praised Mary for giving birth and nursing Jesus. However, Jesus responded by emphasizing the importance of hearing and obeying the Word of God. This indicates that spiritual blessings and closeness to God come through faith and obedience, not through earthly relationships or lineage. Luke 11:27-28 (NIV): "As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, 'Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.' He replied, 'Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.'” 2. One Mediator: 1 Timothy 2:5 emphasizes that there is only one mediator between God and mankind, which is Jesus Christ. This verse reinforces the idea that all believers, regardless of their earthly connections, have direct access to God through Christ, without the need for intermediaries like Mary. 1 Timothy 2:5 (NIV): "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus..." 3. Exclusive Worship: In Luke 4:8, Jesus quotes Scripture, affirming that worship should be directed exclusively to the Lord God. This verse underscores the principle that God alone is worthy of worship and service, not any human, including Mary. Luke 4:8 (NIV): "Jesus answered, 'It is written: Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'" 4. Mary's Sinlessness: The Bible explicitly states that Jesus is the only one who lived a sinless life. This is supported by various passages, such as: 2 Corinthians 5:21 (NIV): "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." Hebrews 4:15 (NIV): "For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet he did not sin." 1 Peter 2:22 (NIV): "He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth." These verses highlight the sinlessness of Jesus, contrasting it with the human condition. In conclusion, while Mary's role as the mother of Jesus is highly respected in the Christian faith, the Bible consistently emphasizes that all believers have direct access to God through faith in Jesus Christ. There is no biblical support for the idea that Mary should receive prayers from Christians or that she was without sin. These concepts are not explicitly taught in Scripture and are therefore matters of theological interpretation within specific Christian traditions.
Don't take verses out of context. What you're doing is calling the Holy Spirit a liar solely so that you can claim Catholicism is false. When Jesus says "rather blessed are those who hear the word and keep it", he's not saying Mary isn't blessed. He's instead just readjusting the focus back onto what He's talking about. Contextually, the woman felt she couldn't be blessed because she wasn't related to Christ, thus Christ basically said "those who hear and keep the word are blessed". in Luke 1:41-44, when the Holy Spirit (who is fully God) fills Elizabeth, she cries out to Mary, "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb! And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy." And since the Holy Spirit is fully God, He cannot lie, and since Elizabeth, suddenly filled with the Spirit, cried out "Blessed are you among women!", we can safely rest assured that Mary is indeed blessed among all women. Or better yet, why don't we look at Luke 1:28 where Mary is given the title "Κεχαριτωμένη." aka Full of Grace, perfect passive participle - Can you name me any other person in the Scripture who is Κεχαριτωμένη? (To save you some time, no, you can't. There is only one person described as Κεχαριτωμένη in the Scripture, and that is mother Mary.) Mary was very clearly given a special kind of grace.
“But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will reward you.” Mathew 6:6 “But Jesus told him, ‘Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.” Methew 8:22 Why do you need an intercessor?
Of course he can't find it because no one prayed to saints in the bible it's a doctrine of devils Satan wants to enter their life's and this is how he does it
Nowhere does it say pray to the dead for anything. Even Paul doesn't support this. The really sad thing is, even new AI technology refutes this bible theology. Type it in your smart phone, does the bible say you can pray to dead saints and you will get the answer. It's just not the one catholics would want to hear. Second they would say that AI is of the devil because it don't agree. A mediator and intercessor have very similar meanings. You can use the very same term that Jesus interceded on our behalf. I guess you don't understand the meaning of the Greek word that was translated in Timothy "mesites" means to go between, reconcilor, intercessor. A mediator is someone that reconciles two parties that are estranged.
Ask the AI which church Jesus started. I bet you’ll say it’s of the devil when you get your answer. Informed Catholics would not say that because informed Catholics understand that A) Implicate doctrines and explicate doctrines can be found in the Bible. The Trinity is implicit as nowhere in the Bible does it say God is a Triune God. Most importantly though is the fact that Catholics adhere to both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. Also, which Bible did you put in? Catholic Bible has all of the original canon of Scripture.
I have one question as a Protestant who wants to understand better. Why do we need intercession from saints and mother Mary if it says in the Bible that the Holy Spirit is our intercessor and that the Holy Spirit groans our prayers out to our Heavenly Father. Romans 8:26 “Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words”.
Immaculate Mary your praises we sing. Your reign now in splendor with Jesus our King. In Heaven the blessed your glory proclaim; On earth we your children invoke your sweet name Jean Gaignet Immaculate Mary
Luke 11:27-28 New International Version 27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” 28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
Luke 11:27-28 Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed! But he said, 'Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!'" Jesus places the church over his own mother. Those that do the will. What is the Will of the Father? For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him- John 6:40 The Bible says nothing about paying to anyone but the FATHER. YHWH. So All the Hail Marys can go right out the window. It also says not to worship idols and the Catholic Church is filled with them even the Vatican has a statue of Lucifer. Nuff said🤷🏻♂️ if this offends you go back in scripture and reevaluate your beliefs
Why go through Mary when Jesus said we can go to Him and He will go to the Father? And in terms of intercesssion, it is the Holy Ghost that intercedes for us, whether Im praying for myself or for others, tell me this, If I pray to God through Jesus and with the Holy Spirit and you go through Mary first, do you believe your prayers will be heard first or yield better results? If the answer is “no” then what is the purpose? If the answer is “yes” what is the biblical basis of that? Also recall this verse in Luke 11:27-28: And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”. Jesus knew one day people would try to elevate Mary to a point of blasphemous worship. Yes you say you don’t worship but actions speak otherwise, you kneel,kiss, pray to multiple statues of Mary, though you say it’s not worship. At the end of the day, words can be twisted to fit both narratives but if it does not add to your salvation but could potentially risk it, why take that risk?
“Intercessor” is different than “mediator”, much like “veneration” is different than “praying”. However, the problem is when Romans use the “intercessor” as a mediator to Christ on our behalf, then one can see Rome is using semantics with these words. In practice, Romans do view St. Mary as an “intercessor”, but in practice try to use her as a mediator for mankind instead of Christ Himself. The very same holds true between the semantics of “veneration” and “pray”, and the actual practice of praying to saints instead of God Himself.
I really think you catholics put things into the text that are not even there like venial sins and mortal sins but the wages of any sin is death. Like wash your face when you fast but you literally make people know you are fasting. Call no man father but you call priest father. Like Mary is sinless but she rejoiced in a savior. Or purgatory which isn't biblical at all or peter being the first pope and yet your new pope is saying all religions will get you to heaven. Like come on you rely on tradition not necessarily on the savior.
@@yeshuasaves217so the part of scripture where it says some sins are deadly and some aren't we should just ignore that part? Do you honestly think that murder is the same as like driving recklessly? Both are sins, but come on they are clearly not on the same level. It's basic logic
“Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let’s hold firmly to our confession. For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things just as we are, yet without sin. Therefore let’s approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace for help at the time of our need.” Hebrews 4:14-16 NASB2020 We have no need for anyone to talk to God for us. No priest. No Saints. Instead, with boldness, we can approach the throne of God and humble ourselves and ask forgiveness ourselves. All of that because Jesus was our high priest. He intercedes for us. That’s also why the veil at the temple was torn when Jesus died, because it symbolized the split between us and God being bridged through our Lord Jesus Christ. This means we can go to God ourselves in prayer, and ask Him for forgiveness. Amen for that. Have a blessed day my brothers and sisters!
@MrBeanhead3100 Priests are mentioned several times in the NT. The apostles are appointing priests, deacons, and bishops. What Bible do you read? Why do you suppose the disciples of the apolostles were writing these epistles about these offices? Who do you think would have been chosen to spread the truth and lead the churches? Did you imagine it was a free for all like modern-day Christianity? Ignatius of Antioch (d. A.D. 107), who wrote at length of the authority of bishops as distinct from presbyters and deacons (Epistle to the Magnesians 6:1, 13:1-2; Epistle to the Trallians 2:1-3; Epistle to the Smyrnaeans 8:1-2)
@@FaithTruthLogicReason I read the inspired Word of God. The Bible. The one that says I can find forgiveness and mercy through Jesus sacrifice on the cross. Which one do you read my friend? Yes, correct, the apostles in the New Testament epistles are appointing leaders in churches. Many times, they mention Deacons, Elders, and some sort of “Shepherds” (or as I would call them, pastors) of those churches. I am not disagreeing with having a church leadership at all, and never said I was. I was disagreeing with the priesthood being part of that leadership. The priesthood that says I must confess to a priest to be saved. When this verse tells me, very clearly, that through Jesus, I can approach the throne of God and confess to God, asking for grace and mercy. That is the only point I have made my friend. God bless you today!
@MrBeanhead3100 1 Timothy 3 Qualifications of Bishops. This saying can be trusted: Whoever wants to be a bishop desires a noble task. 2 Therefore, a bishop must be above reproach, the husband of only one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, and a good teacher. 3 He must not be a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not prone to quarreling, not greedy. 4 He must manage his own household well and ensure that his children are submissive and respectful in every way. 5 For if someone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of the Church of God? 6 He should not be a recent convert so that he will not become conceited and incur the same condemnation as the devil. 7 He must also enjoy a good reputation among outsiders so that he may not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s snare. Qualifications of Deacons. 8 Similarly, deacons must exhibit a sense of dignity, not indulging in double-talk or excessive consumption of wine, and not being greedy. 9 They must hold fast to the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 Let them first be tested. They can be appointed as deacons only if they are beyond reproach. 11 Women[b] must likewise exhibit a sense of dignity and not be given to spreading slander. They must be temperate and faithful in all things. 12 Deacons must have only one wife and be able to manage their children and their own households. 13 Those deacons whose work is exemplary will achieve a high standing and gain great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus. Acts 14 23 In each Church, they appointed presbyters for them, and with prayer and fasting they commended them to the Lord in whom they had come to believe. Just a couple of places you failed to mention. There is more. Would you like me to throw in some more early church documents? Anyone can approach the throne of God. Duh. Jesus is in our Tabernacle in every catholic church and has been since He revealed hims resurrected body for the first time in the breaking of the bread. You just don't get the symbolism of the OT to the NT. Those who can't see God's miracles either don't have the eyes to see. They are blind.
John 2:1-11 Specifically in verse 3, what is she doing. meditate on her action and her her words. May the Holy Spirit guide you to the fullness of the truth
@@RebiwGiant-um8vp there’s plenty of places where Jesus equates himself and attributes to God. He doesn’t have to say “I am God” in those specific words.
I'm gonna pass on that and stay safe. I'll continue to pray to the Lord as instructed and ask those that are alive to pray for me when I need. I except Mary of course as the mother of Christ, but since there is no command nor instruction to pray to her I'll be keeping clear of that.
Please keep praying to God in the name of Jesus Christ. That's what this young man is saying in this video. Perhaps you missed that point. The Catholic Church has never asked otherwise, as many protestants mistakenly believe.
@@tellthetruth6430 Oh so he wasn't suggesting to pray in this way "Hail Mary full of grace the lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy whom Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death." Yeah, thats actually prayer. It may not be worshipping but it is consulting with the dead.
@@Rendasd Our God is the God of the living and not the God of the dead. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Mosses, Elijah, Blessed Virgin Mary, Peter, Paul, Anthony and so on. Book of John 11 Verses 25 to 26. [25] Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. The saints are alive with God in Heaven and know what's happening here on earth. The Hail Mary you recited are 90% scriptures with a request for our mother, the mother of God to join us/ask/pray to our God. Please note that we Catholics include Jesus in God in this regard. To understand this, you'd have to understand the concept of the Holy Trinity.
@@tellthetruth6430aah keep your hoole cat hole , just recite the holeey hole of Mary: where in the Bible it says Mary deserves prayer and worship, or she's an intercessor! No more Bs
@@tellthetruth6430don't make false claims. The rosary prayer called the Hail Mary is at most 60% biblical. The rest is added on. Count the words. Do the math. Don't just put in random figures and think it is facts. Even the devil at the temptation of Jesus used "90%" of Scripture mixed in with lies to try to get him to fall. Jesus overcame through using Scripture. Not by using vague concepts formed by men.
Jesus is the one mediator between man and the Father. Mary is an intercessor between man and Jesus. Not between man and the Father. Protestants enjoy being obtuse.
So wise theologically but so blinded spiritually. Those who worships Mary, no Salvation for such people, the God of this age has blinded the churches too.
@@nd8322 the God lol 😂 ok 👍 God is one , blessed to be a Catholic in the name of the father son and Holy Spirit, God is my mentor The Catholic Church is my calling
The Bible shows us that Jesus speaks to the Father on our behalf. Romans 8:34 says that Jesus “is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.” In 1 John 2:1 we read that Jesus is our “advocate with the Father,” and from Hebrews 7:25 we learn that Jesus “always lives to intercede” for us.
Prayer for friends and family helps strengthen the community of faith here on earth. God has perfect judgement. It’s hard for me to accept the argument that, with enough prayers from enough people, God will change his answer when he already arrived at one via perfect judgement.
@@lovaboy57 if you are praying like God is a genie, you may want to address that first. We merely make our petition known, and hopefully the area that the person is trying to cover in prayer is from a place of humility and charity.
yeah. she is your intercessor and you give her God-like power like hearing millions of prayers at the same time. Something that is reserved to God only and can be done by God only.
I’d rather be wrong not doing something that I am not told to do in the word of God. Than be wrong about doing some man explained tradition. It’s going to be an interesting judgement day 🤔
If Mary a loving mother of Jesus had Deity, she would have prevented Jesus Crucifixion and so would Peter. Jesus is the only advocate with God and the veil was torn into that we may have a direct line to God through Jesus!!! God through Jesus by the Holy Spirit!!!
@@exosisyphus missed the point… anyone who is ALIVE can yes pray and be an intercessor… Mary is not alive and is not our intercessor.. is my point, we should not and are told very clearly not to communicate to the dead!
@@exosisyphusbut shes dead.... she wasnt an angel or divine so how could you think shes in any position to pray or intercede for you? Thats assuming that because she was chosen to be the earthly mother to Our Savior that she holds power to do anything for you. PLUS thats not in the Bible. We can ask the Holy spirit to teach us to pray in the will of God by praying in the Spirit. ONLY through Jesus can we get to the Father anything outside of that is a sin as the Bible expressly forbids consulting mediums or souls of the dead
Mary and all the other saints are DEAD! Praying to any of them or venerating them makes you an idolaters, BREAKING the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Catholics and Anglicans are all idolaters. Their churches are full of images. Please, my brothers and sisters, Jesus says "no one comes to the Father except through me."
Praying for all those whose only interest is to someday be with God! Those that are sincerely looking for the truth. May God clear their minds and walk with them through their journey.🙏 Praying also for those whose only interest is to be right no matter what! May God humble them and open up their eyes to accept the fact that they may be or are wrong; especially in their faith. Mary has always been their #1 objection! Mary the one God himself chose to be the mother of his divine son, Mary the one that gave her Fiat to God and carried his (and hers) son in her womb for 9 months. Mary who was with her son at all times, especially during his passion! Mary who was at the foot of the cross watching her son bleed to death! Mary whom Jesus left us all; not just John, as our mother! Does this woman who loves US so much deserve the rejection, the curses of those who are supposed to love Jesus? No one likes for their mother to be offended, what makes them think that Jesus does? May God have mercy on all those who carry so much hatred in their hearts towards the mother of his son.
Yes that is true pray for one another, intercession but for those who are alive physically not for the dead. And are we not all saints those who believe in Christ Jesus
We are all called saints, yes. The saints we refer to when speaking of those in Heaven are the saints canonized whom we know have made it to Heaven. For example, st carlo acutis already has 2 miracles attributed to his intercession, so he's quickly become a saint. he is the most recent canonized saint
Amen God is enough, but God uses humans. Sharing your faith with your earthly mother doesnt take away from God just like sharing your faith with your heavenly mother doesnt take away from God
is that how you honor the woman that God honored... "not needed" i think is a very ingrateful word... mary gave her total obedience to God when she was called for GoD's plan.. total obedience meaning she risked her life to bear the messiah and here you are .just a man who doest not really know WHAT TOTAL OBEDIENCE TO GOD really means...
I love how Catholic, twisti and contort the scripture to fit their agenda. I feel bad for all of you. They have the wall pulled over your eyes. The Bible doesn’t contradict itself, but Catholicism contradict itself over and over.
Cuz they keep making stuff up every century and the majority of their doctrines were made after the 2nd century. Even Papal infallibility is a recent concept (1870). The early church was not Catholic.
My favorite part of this video is where he does not explain why Catholics feel the need to pray to Mary at all. The Lord above commands us to not pray to intercessors, but to him or his son directly.
As Catholics we venerate Mary. We do not worship her. We appeal to her through prayer to intercede on our behalf to her son. The same with the Saints, they are prayed to for help not worshipped. What a comfort to know we all have a loving mother in Mary.
You worship her. You offer her incense, you kneel before her, you have idols (graven images) of her in places of worship, you consecrate your souls to her in prayers, you make petitionary prayers, and you SACRIFICE your time and devotion to her. Repent.
@@AK0NY Look up the prayer of consecration to Mary. Catholics literally consecrate their soul and their entire being to their demoness. It’s legitimately satanism.
Mary is just a woman. She sinned, Christ even said that His body is His true mother, brothers and sisters. You cannot pray to mary, she is not devine, she cannot do anything. Pray to Christ, the true salvation. May the Lord open the eyes of all Catholics✝️🙏
Mary, the unrecognized Queen of the Universe hastened to the home of Her cousin, Elizabeth, whom She knew --- by a messenger from Her Royal Consort --- to be with child. When She entered Her cousin's home, Saint Elizabeth did not know how to thank Her and, filled with humility, burst forth in the exclamation: "And whence is this to me that the Mother of My Lord should visit me?" (Luke, 1, 32). "But how could this be?" asks a Doctor of the Church. "Did not Saint Elizabeth already know that not only Mary, but also Jesus had entered her house? Why then does she say that she is unworthy to receive the Mother and not, rather, that she is unworthy to receive the Son, Who had come to visit her? Ah, yes, it is because the Saint knew full well that when Mary comes She brings Jesus, and therefore it was sufficient to thank the Mother without naming the Son." And so, too, when Our Lady visited this vale of tears with an assurance of salvation, She brought Salvation with Her. As formerly She had "contained Christ as manna in the ark of Her womb, and brought Him forth to be the Food and Salvation of the world". The whole meaning of Our Lady, the whole meaning of any gesture on Her part to assure our salvation, is to be found in the thirst of the Sacred Heart for love. This is as true as the fact that a bridge derives its whole meaning from the banks which it joins. Mary has but one desire, a desire born at the foot of the Cross: to see resound from pole to pole the one cry, "Praise be to the Divine Heart of Jesus!" Where there is Mary, there is Jesus. Mary brought the Salvation for us through her perfect resignation to God and you say she was just a woman? "For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed;" "Whoever desires the fruit must go to the tree; whoever desires Jesus must go to Mary; and whoever finds Mary will most certainly find Jesus." -ST. ALPHONSUS
@@FollowerofChrist12 Well, we don't worship Mary. Please, stop saying what your ministers have brainwashed you with and refer to the teachings of the catholic church.
Meaning we who believe in Jesus Christ are not dead but alive because we believe in him those that don’t believe in Jesus Christ are dead spiritual speaking it has nothing to do with Mary being alive she is still in the grave waiting for the resurrection day
We don’t need an intercessor, we have the Holy Spirit. Jesus left God’s Holy Spirit in His place to dwell within the believer until His return. Everything we need is found in His presence and within those who have accepted God’s Grace. My question is simple. What do we need with Mary?
Jesus Died for Mary too, she to needs a savior. She was a special person. But no Man is above another. Only Jesus is all God all Man. Most high living God. And he's a Jealous God.
....No one is saying Mary didn't need a savior... Also, the whole reason protestants cling to this idea is because the protestant bible is missing 7 books that have a LOT of people praying to Saints and even the dead soldiers of Christ.... No wonder Protestantism is "close" but never quite accurate.
@@Psalm22_16 No Christian prays to any Body but the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. If you do you are not a Son of the Living God. You are the son of your father the Devil
@@patricksalazar687 *No Christian prays to any Body but the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.* Feel free to elaborate on what "pray to" means. If it means "worship," then you need to cease the straw manning, because no catholic worships the saints. It would be idolatry.
”Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.“
John 14:6
we dont believe we are coming to the father through the saints 💀
Amen as a Catholic I please that 🙏 glory to Christ!
@@CarsonWhite-ko1mhwhere do you get your canon?
@@SonOFaNUN-jd7ov where everyone else gets it
@@CarsonWhite-ko1mh sorry friend. That question/comment was misdirected. Stay blessed. God protect you.
Im frustrated. As a Protestant… very frustrated with everything I was ever taught. Went to my first Catholic Mass last week and I have deep desire to attend again.
Just know that Jesus was a Jew. Jews don’t drink blood
Jews killed Jesus.
I’m currently in OCIA (meaning I’m converting to Catholicism, in my case, from Protestantism as well). I and pretty much every convert will tell you: Catholicism is all of Protestantism plus SO MUCH MORE. I can’t wait to be received into the Church at Easter Mass. Your desire to go back to Mass is natural. Keep praying to Jesus to show you the Truth. May God bless you, friend. ✝️❤️
@@oatmealtruck7811 Thank you so much! Pray for me.
@@primusreborn Jews killed Jesus.
Where in the Bible did it say Mother Mary is our intercessor?
Where in the Bible does it say she's not
@@vlogafter3054what kind of logic is that?
She’s not our intercessor. Jesus makes it plain no one goes to the father except by him; not Mary.
Where in the Bible does it say your self proclaimed pastor can intercede for you? The Bible teaches us that anyone can pray for one another. Just like you would ask someone to pray for you unto God, we Catholics asked Mary to pray for us unto God too. That’s called intercession. It’s biblical!
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people- 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.
1 Timothy 2:1-2
Thank God I was cured from my Protestantism. I am now preparing to become a member of Christ's actual church
Christs Actual Church, the Orthodox Church!! ☦︎ Christ has risen! God Bless you, and i wish you a Good Start into your new life, in the Original Church, The Orthodox Church!! ☦︎
And i assume Orthodox, because you said Christs actual Church, and that's the Orthodox Church. ☦︎
@@LonelyyPoison Christ built His church on Peter. I love all Apostolic Churches, though.
All denominations of Christianity will send you to hell. Just be a Christian and stay away from churches and denominations that twist the teachings of the bible
@@LonelyyPoisonCatholic and Orthodox are pretty equal, both apostolic. The main difference is a few basic beliefs that either one could be right or wrong on. But none vital to salvation it seems, so not too big a deal. I’m Roman Catholic myself, but I have a deep respect for my Orthodox brethren.
Christ's actual church are the people whom the Holy Spirit dwells, people who surrender their life to Jesus, people who do not use and do not bow down to ANY graven images be like in heaven or on earth, people who follow Christ, not the tradition of men.
Jesus was giving away to us everything that was dear to him, Even during the last moments of his life. Jesus gave Mary to us as our mother who will intercede for us. When he said the words to Mary and his beloved disciple John. "Woman behold your son and son behold your mother". Now why would Jesus call mother Mary as mother of John?
Answer- Cause he was giving her away to the world as our mother and what does a mother do. Prays for us, protects us, loves us, obtains forgiveness for our sins by prayer to the father. Mother Mary is the new eve the queen of heaven and the Catholic doctrine is the truest of all doctrines available out there. Everything in the Catholic doctrine is deep and makes complete sense. I practiced Islam for a year and came back to the Catholic church and became stronger in my faith. Peace to all and I hope everyone gets rewarded for genuinely seeking God..
@@magneticme8960 she doesn’t intercede until the rapture, per revelations. So what is she doing? Have a backlog of prayers for 2100 years?
It annoys me, as a Catholic convert from Protestantism, that Protestants say that we worship Mary when in fact we venerate her and other saints who are more alive than us in heaven and they say that we can’t ask her to intercede when in fact the first verse of the passage of 1 Timothy that he pleads Christians to intercede for one another. Also, God finds it rude for people to smudge Mary when in fact she is called blessed and said all generations will call her blessed (St. Luke 1:48).
They are not alive , they died and were buried, only 3 people are alive in heaven that we know Eli, Enoch, and Moses that‘s it
I will assume you meant venerate, since generate makes no sense in the context. 1st Timothy specifically states that such intercessions are to be made in the context of prayer, and not on behalf of their sin. And not to God directly. If Jesus died for my sins, whose intercession do I need? And if I need intercession, why did Jesus die on the cross, if His blood is not sufficient to cover my sins?
@@nawrassnajjar5210Do you understand eternal life? Do you know John 3:16?
@@CrusaderofGodEditz John 3:16 seriously? You’re going to twist that into that Christians who die now have eternal life immediately ?
No no, Jesus the describe the dead as asleep in Matthew 9:24, so there body’s resting and souls are resting till the day of judgement like it says in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 and revelation 20:13
Plus in Exodus 20:3-5 GOD clearly doesn’t want us to pray to anyone or anything but HIM
@@nawrassnajjar5210 Revelations 8:4?
But literally in Hebrew 7:25, it says
“Hebrews 7:25
New International Version
25 Therefore he is able to save completely[a] those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.”
God the Father or God the Son? Also there is no exclusionary language here, which indicates that it is acceptable for someone (such as a saint) to intercede to God through God.
Unless you can find such rhetoric that is exclusive or otherwise contradictory, you cannot say it is unbiblical.
Biblical proof for praying to Mary and Saints
Through Jesus we are priests (mediators/intercessors)
Rev 5:9-10
and they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy art thou to take the scroll and to open its seals, for thou wast slain and by thy blood didst ransom men for God from every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and hast made them a kingdom and PRIESTS to our God, and they shall reign on earth."
Angels and Saints in heaven can hear our hearts because repentance is of the heart. Mary can hear our prayers.
Luke 15:7
Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
Saints in heaven receive the prayers of the Saints on earth.
Rev 5:8
And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;
@ Hey thanks for the response, but in the verses you put were does it say you can pray to marry? And in the last verse you put from Revelations, it’s important to read it in context, those saints died from being martyred and were praying to God to and asking Him how long will it be till He avenged there blood on the earth Revelation 6:10
And in the verse you quoted from revelations, is basically around the time where God decides to avenge them
They weren’t praying for anyone on earth, but for themselves
Lastly, praying to Mary and saints and angels is not biblical, and it didn’t really take over the early church to mainly around the 3rd-4th century, so around 300 to four hundred years after Jesus and the apostles
There is no point of passing to them, we have a interest in Jesus our Lord and if we don’t know what to pray for, then The Holy Spirit can intercede and pray for us and through us. Mary and The saints most likely don’t fully know we even exist, they are enjoying themselves most likely
@@averythompkins3682 how can you say that praying to saints is not Biblical? Bible teaches that through Jesus we are made Priests (mediators/intercessors).
Based on Rev 5:9-10, Christians are priests(mediators/intercessors). Mary is a Christian, therefore she is a mediator/intercessor.
Based on Luke 15:7, Christians in heaven know our hearts bcs repentance is of the heart, therefore Mary can hear our prayers in heaven.
Based on Rev 5:8, saints in heaven receive prayers, therefore, Mary receives our prayers.
The saints receiving the prayers in Rev 5 are not the slain saints. The slain saints are not discussed until Rev 6. Moreover, a distinction is made between the slain saints and the living creatures in Rev 6. The four living creatures were showing John the contents of the opened seals. Seal 5 contained the slain souls.
Rev 6 proves saints in heaven are not oblivious of earthly events and are aware of them.
Praying to saints is attested in scripture.
Mediation of Jesus is different from mediation of saints. Jesus mediation is the formal cause of our salvation. Our mediation/intercessory role is praying for one another in this life or the next. Prayer requests are not limited for earth but we can also ask saints in heaven for prayer requests because they continue to be priests (mediators/intercessors). They can hear us.
@@averythompkins3682 not to be rude, but do you understand what it means to partake in divinity? I doubt the saints are just “enjoying themselves most likely”. It’s funny how many of these claims you make are not biblical, for example, “The Holy Spirit can intercede and pray for us and through us”… Do you understand what intercession means? Suggesting this of the Holy Ghost is borderline blasphemous. I would get a literal translation, for better context and configured understanding. More over, your comment of the knowledge of the saints. What biblical evidence suggests these shawty opinions of yours? Also, your exigencies are not accurate, they don’t fit into the surrounding context, especially in the Apocalypse.
Ave Christus Rex
My cousin didn’t have the best life and his mom was never in his Life and she still isn’t in his life so he always says MY REAL MOTHER IS IN HEAVEN… MARY❤
Praying for them both to reunite.❤
Yep. I didn't have a father on earth and my papa is Jesus
@@bb3ll07 Yes, Catholic say these foolish things. It's what they are taught.
@@LibbySlaughter101 How old do protestants claim the earth is again lol?
Critical thinkers protestants are not. You are just good at ignoring all the inconsistencies in your faith which are transparently false. Such as sola scriptura.
Revelation 12 says the woman was pregnant and in labor pains.
Catholics say she was immaculately conceived and birthed Jesus without pain.
These two things contradict each other. Either the woman from revelation isn’t Mary or she wasn’t immaculately conceived. Either is dogma so the Mary doctrine is factually false.
Pray to the one in heaven who matters, our father in Christ name.
My brother it’s crazy how many times we have to explain this to the Protestants. And as much as we explained they still don’t want to understand. Great video💯📿
The claim that she was sinless is absurd and it's weird the amount of attention she gets. It's crazy
@@janelleg597what’s weird is you denounced that fact that God proclaimed
Her as being being “Full of grace” and kept her sinless.
@@cmb2438 God never proclaimed her sinnless… scripture and verse please. That was completely made up by the Catholic Church, and they even admit it.
@@cmb2438 where does it say God kept her sinless? I was just
@@cmb2438 where does it say God kept her sinless?
John 14:6-7 NIV
[6] Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. [7] If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
Praying the rosary is not to get to God the father, it is to help you in abstain sin
@@Hgxts that's wrong! You confess your sins to God, and Jesus died for your sins already! You don't need a third person for that! MARY WAS JUST A WOMEN!!!!!
@@WorldGlobetrotters "just a woman."
Dude, I don't care what you believe, but you really need to watch how you talk about Jesus' mother.
@@WorldGlobetrottersyeah because just a women would be full of grace and would be called blessed among women your delusional
@@WorldGlobetrottersjust a WOMEN? please stop you troll. If the Blessed Virgin Mary is just a WOMAN think about what that makes the rest of us, tool.
Thanks!
Mediator or intercessor, there isn't anything in scripture. What there IS though is "no-one can come to the father except through me". Only The Lord can be our intercessor.
Mary isn't going to the father. She is going to her Son.
And yes, there is many things in the Bible that say that people should pray for you.
@@dave_ecclecticLuke 11:27-28
New International Version
27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”
28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
@@ArgentWarrior NIV LUKE 1
You seem to have skipped over Luke here.
_48for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. _*_From now on all generations will call me blessed_* So, she is blessed. and the woman in *27* is of a generation...and has called her blessed. So, that is correct.
Then Jesus says _“Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”_ And you think this negates Scriptures earlier statement that Mary was blessed?
Rather Jesus is confirming His mother is blessed. Has Mary not *heard* the Word of God?
Has Mary not *obeyed* the Word of God?
Now we go a bit earlier and we have...
_38“I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her._
Not only has Mary Heard the Word of God but she has Obeyed God.
she also Carried the Word of God and delivered the Word of God. In both cases this also makes her the first evangelist. If you prefer a Biblical quote for this too. John 2:5 _His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”_
Notice that you may HEAR the Word of God, and you may obey it.... you have not carried or delivered the Word of God. Basically, what the woman in *27* was commenting on.
_27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”_
Jesus emphasizes that attentiveness to God’s will is more important than having a biological relationship to Him, since right before this happened he was teaching about how to keep your house in order and not let unclean spirits dwell there. That does not equate to Him rebuking His mother.
@@dave_ecclecticif Jesus is the mediator you can’t then have a mediator to a mediator. Btw intercessor and mediator are synonyms.
Keep speaking the truth
Amen 🙏
But you pray to mary!! Like it or not , you do.
@@murielpucoe9213He all Mary full of grace Lord is with thee blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus Holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of her death amen.
@@guardtheham1233 There is a special book with all the prayers to Mary which mc Athur read last year.
@@murielpucoe9213 yep we pray to Mary and we like it. You should try being a biblical Christian like us.
The Bible teaches how to Pray and it's to the Father so that's what I do ❤
Did you remove the parable of Lazarus and the rich man from your Bible because according to you it's teaching error
@bradleesargent they died and they can see each other, but not in here that's why he says they have Moses and the Prophets in here they are not gonna believe not even if someone came from the dead.
@bradleesargent And Jesus said it no one came to the Father except through me in the Bible doesn't said pray to Mary or go to Mary because she is your intercessor remember our God is a jealous God he can do everything without someone telling him what to do he is the only way to the Father.
At the end of the day the one thing both a Protestant believer and a Catholic believer should have in common ABOVE ALL ELSE, is Salvation in Jesus Christ, by faith thanks to God’s grace ✝️❤️🔥🙏🏻
Too bad they believe they are the One True Church. Only them. Not Orthodox, nor Protestant. Sad.
@@Rolando_Cueva don’t be sad, look at it as an opportunity to strengthen your faith and challenge false doctrines 🙏🏻❤️🔥✝️
Catholics the need to confess sins to a priest instead of going straight to God. Also believe in Mary as an intercessor where we can intercede for each other and also trust that Jesus is interceding for us already.
@@WhatInTheWorldWasTha circular reason much?
@@VersatilisPeritusgo direct to the living source, not the tainted sweeteners
Jesus that is the truth, the way and the life. And we have access to God the father through Jesus. No need for intercessor.
WEDDING FEAST AT CANA. Mary interred to her SON. If She could do it then..She can do it now!
dead people have nothing to say for the living, Jesus rose from the dead and is the real and only mediator
@ninobarrientos Mary is the virgin mother of our lord Jesus christ, hand picked by God the father himself. She deserves more respect than the way protestants treat her.
@@marilynbrown5274 Yes, the Bible showed that Mary has a role, why can't they get that...
@@ninobarrientos so you are saying once you are dead you are finish? No, your body is tmdead, then your soul lives on and souls can have something to say to the living by the mercy of God. Mother Mary is our mother who intercede for us to Her son our Lord Jesus Christ. To Jesus through Mary
the Bible tells us to pray to God the Father, in the Name of God the Son, by way of God the Holy Spirit. We only pray to God, by God, and in the name of God. He gets all the glory. ❤
so do we and the bible also tell us we can pray to saints to intercede for us. Our one mediator gave us the saints
@ yeah? I guess I missed that one. Book, chapter and verse please.
@@ShuyikaHenryActually I know you won't believe and I don't blame you because I don't remember which one BUT I'm pretty sure rev 5:8 is an example if the saints
@rubyring2461 also Catholics and Orthodoxes denie sola scriptura. So they believe in the saints intercession because of tradition. I'm pretty sure there's quite a few church fathers (the Apostles successors) that talk about it.
@@saradorris3554
Sola scriptura is heresy and a path to the sin of pride.
The Visitation (in addition to the Wedding Feast at Cana) is also a revelation of how Mary mediates her Son to us. It is at her word that St John the Baptist leaps in his mother's womb. A created word, the word of the Blessed Virgin Mary, mediates the divine Word of God to St John the Baptist for his sanctification and St Elizabeh as well.
How do you get all that from those passages? You think that she mediates Jesus to us now because John the Baptist leaped in her mothers womb? Why is it that this is not made clear in the epistles by the apostles if this is so. Jesus says that it is the Father who draws us to Him (John 6:44). The Holy Spirit baptizes us into Christ (1 Corinthians 12:12). There is no role of a human mediator or intercession bringing us to Christ. It is all done by God.
I think this is a problem with some doctrines people hold to: they are often eisegeted or read into a text without the text clearly stating it. For instance here, the leap was made from two account about specific situations to a universal application where Mary is given a present role that God has not revealed about her in scripture.
You do teach Mary died and rose again and call her Mediatrix but i know you not believe she is God our Savior but somehow we can call on her for help with Son in Heaven.
@@TomPlantagenet At the Visitation, the supernatural effect of Mary’s greeting is made explicit by the Word of God itself: "And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit." You disagree with the Holy Spirit's testimony or with Elizabeth's? For she herself testifies that "the sound of your [Mary’s] greeting" is that which has precipitated John's leap in her womb.
The charge of eisegesis can be an escape hatch when plain assertions about Scripture cannot be countered.
I assert that the sound of Mary’s greeting caused both the leap of John in the womb and Elizabeth's being filled with the Holy Spirit. And I base this on Elizabeth's own testimony, a testimony regarding cause and supernatural effect.
You simply do not like the inevitable conclusion and so level the charge of eisegesis.
Though you would readily concede the power of the Ark of the Covenant (made.of wood and gold) in the Old Testament, you fail to recognize this same God now working through a human person.
@@biblicalmariology it says that Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit when Mary spoke, however it does not say that Mary caused her to be filled with the Holy Spirit when she spoke. This is a matter of God‘s sovereignty. Likewise, the ark did not have power, it was God who operated over the ark. Again, God is the power over both the ark and the one who caused Elizabeth to be filled with the Holy Spirit, not Mary,
You have not responded to what I actually wrote. My concern here it is taking these passages in Luke 1 and John 2 and then reading into them the fact that Mary somehow mediated between us in Christ. Scripture does not explicitly or implicitly say that and as I’ve showed you with John 6 and first Corinthians 12 . the Scriptures would argue against that very thing you are asserting. There is only one mediator between God and man and that is Christ Jesus. It is not Christ mediated through Mary. Jesus is the intercessor between God and man. It does not say that Jesus is interceding by Mary. That is clearly an eisegetical interpretation.
Here’s the thing, what are you trusting in for your salvation? Is it your baptism, Good works, church membership? Or Jesus Christ ?
The Bible teaches that we are saved by “grace through faith and not by works”(Ephesians 2:8-9).If you believe that you need to do something in order to get salvation then you are trusting in what you do. You can say it’s grace, but if you’re doing something to get saved then it is works.(Romans 11:6).
God sent Jesus to die in our place to pay for our sins (1 John 2:2). Jesus then rose from the dead to give us new life (John 11:25-26). That is what saves us. It is the Person and the Work of Jesus Christ which makes us right with God. Our sins separate us from God (Isaiah 59:1-2); therefore, they must be paid for (Hebrews 2:17)and we must be born again(John 3:3). That is what Jesus’ death and resurrection accomplishes.
The work of Christ is Imputed to us by God’s grace through faith (Roman’s 3:21-26; John 3:16). Nothing we can do can contribute in any way to our salvation. It is a free gift that is being given to us and all we can do is humbly receive it by trusting in the Person and Work of Jesus Christ.(1 Corinthians 15:1-5; Acts 16:31).
Finally, we are either trusting in Christ or we are not(John 14:6). There is no faith in Christ plus our works equals salvation. Partially trusting in works (baptism, charitable giving, other sacraments) means not trusting in Christ. If you are adding works to the gospel, then you are lost (Galatians5:4) and on your way to hell. You are believing another gospel (Galatians 1:8-9). I emplore you to repent of this false gospel and your sins and receive the free gift of salvation that is only found in Jesus and His death for our sins and His resurrection. (Romans 4:25). Remember the Pharisee and the tax collector (Luke 18:9-14).
I’m not writing this to win an argument. I’m writing this in love. I’m a beggar who was given food and I’m showing you where to get it.
@@TomPlantagenet Thank you for your reply. I will try to respond to your concerns paragraph by paragraph.
1. Elizabeth recognizes and testifies to this causality: "at the sound of your greeting." She finds the coincidence remarkable enough to declare it, to confess it. We are in agreement over the sovereignty of God over all things. And yet He works through His creatures and through Mary in a singular way. Let us not forget that she is carrying the Christ within her womb, much like the Ark contained the Divine Presence in the Old Testament.
Another OT example of God working through His creatures can be seen in Judith: "The Lord our God slew him [Holofernes] by the hand of a woman" (Jud 13:19).
2. I also believe that you have not adequately responded to what I have written, insofar as I have laid out in both passages the revealed mediation of Mary.
Re: Jn 6:44 - "No man can come to Me, except the Father, who hath sent Me, draw Him. As mentioned above, God is the final cause of all things, drawing all unto Himself. And yet, God works through His creatures to draw men unto Himself, as it is written in Romans 1:19-20 - " Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them. For the invisible things of Him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; His eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are without excuse."
God draws men to believe in Him as the Creator of all through creation itself. Therefore, that the Father draws men to Christ is by no means mutually exclusive with the mediation of creatures. After all, you were baptized not by yourself, but by another. You came to faith because someone preached to you the Word of Truth or you read the Word of Truth as written by a human person. So, too, the mediation of the Christ -- at both the Visitation and the Wedding Feast at Cana -- by Mary does not exclude by rather glorifies, indeed, amplifies, God's omnipotence. This, in fact, is the entire logic of salvation as revealed in Gen 3:15, namely, that the devil would be crushed by the foot of the Woman, by the same sex he first presumed to deceive. God is All. There is no question regarding His sovereignty. The question I put to you is whether you believe He is at work through His creation, and most especially, through those who have been created in His image and likeness. So, again, like the passage of Judith above: God is the final cause, and the woman is the instrumental cause.
Re: 1 Cor 12:13 - "For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body..." The same principle applies. The Holy Spirit is the divine agent, and yet human agency is also involved. I.e., you did not baptize yourself, nor did you come to faith without another human's agency.
St. Paul mediated to you the above reading, and St. John the prior reading. The Holy Spirit is the Divine Author, and yet the human authorship is also valid to speak of.
3. I trust in God's mercy and grace for my salvation.
4. You're off topic here -- no longer speaking of mediation -- but are articulating a typical Protestant point known as sola fide. Perhaps another day.
5. "God sent Jesus to die..." No problem here. Agreed.
6. Imputation of grace is a Lutheran idea and discounts the actual transformative power of grace to change us from within. For example, Catholics believe that Baptism effects an ontological change of the human person, that is, a change of one's very being. Thus we do not equivocate when we claim to be a "new creation" in Christ. Imputation, however, does equivocate in this regard.
7. Again you beg off to a tangential point regarding faith vs. works. No progress can be made if you do not stay on topic.
8. You ostensibly are showing me where to get my food in Sacred Scripture. But in reality you offer yourself as my food. You have no authority to interpret the Word of God in a definitive manner. That authority was given only to Christ's Church, of which I have been made -- by God's sheer mercy -- an unworthy minister. I therefore speak to you of truths from the treasury of the Church, a veritable banquet of the limitless wisdom of the inexhaustible Word of God. You, on the other hand, invite me to partake of a meager and bitter meal of a heretical Augustinian monk. Please understand if I decline.
"Hail Mary...Full of Grace...the Lord is with Thee..." 🙏 Amen ✝️❤️🛐
Straight from the Gospel of St. Luke
I do not hail mary.
I do not pray to mary.
I go straight to God through Jesus Christ.
mary is not involved or included.
I was in awe by the presence of Jesus in the Catholic mass. There is a shift or higher connection before the Body and Blood is handed out.
Amen. I love the blessed mother.
Yesss✝️💜
@@Awhina-Lee The Bible says you are to love God, with ALL of your heart, mind, soul and strength. Do not replace God with anyone, no, not even the mother of Jesus.
@@LibbySlaughter101 It is NOT replacing. The MOTHER of JESUS stood at the foot of the CROSS. She suffered unimaginable Sorrow. Do you really believe that Jesus would accept your dissing of HIS Mother?
@@marilynbrown5274 Of course she suffered terribly but nowhere in the Bible does it say we are to pray to her. Your assertion that I disrespect her would sadden Him. Only one person died for your salvation - only one person could - the sinless Son of God.
@@LibbySlaughter101 I'm a mother and my love for my children derives from my love for Jesus. I love him more than mine own and I love the blessed mother. You made something out of nothing and read into my comment the same way you read into scripture, your own narrative.
She is a mediatrix of grace. Your video's are awesome man.
No ,read holy Bible properly ,you are descendents from apostles chruch but afterwards they started following all the stuffs it is not said in holy Bible ,we should only take mary as an example ,not more than that
@@priyadharshinim9017 Sola Scriptura is not explicitly taught in the Bible, and the canon of Scripture wasn’t finalized until the 4th century under the authority of the Church. This raises a critical question: how can the early Christians, who lived faithfully for centuries without a finalized Bible, be considered less Christian than those who rely on Sola Scriptura today?
It’s also worth noting that Catholics and Orthodox Christians, who adhere to the original canon, make up over 2 billion believers worldwide, while Protestantism is largely concentrated in the United States. Given this, why was it deemed acceptable during the Reformation to remove several books that had been accepted as Scripture for over a millennium? Where in the Bible is the authority to retroactively reject texts that the early Church recognized as divinely inspired?
For example, the Book of Tobit-removed from Protestant Bibles-contains Tobit 12:12, which clearly supports the theological concept of intercession. By rejecting such texts, Protestants reshaped the canon based on theological preferences rather than historical or apostolic precedent. This raises serious concerns about whether such actions were guided by divine truth or human innovation. Any departure from the sacred tradition of the Church risks undermining the integrity of the faith, a point worth reflecting on with theological seriousness.
@@priyadharshinim9017sola scriptura is not in the Bible. Also, the Bible wasn’t fully compiled until the 4th century. So do you feel like you are more Christian than the early Christians within the first 300 years of the church? Also, Catholics and Orthodox encompass over 2 billion Christians worldview. Most of the Protestants worldwide reside in America. I say this because I want to ask you why do you think it was acceptable for Protestants to literally remove books from the Bible? Where in the Bible does it say that it’s okay to retroactively delegate Scriptural texts as non-scriptural? Because if the Protestant Bible had the book of Tobit, you would have read 12:12, where it directly speaks to the ability to seek intercession. But Protestants decided to remove books they deemed inconvenient with their dogma. And that’s satanic. I must be honest
@@priyadharshinim9017that’s what Catholics believe yes. That’s what veneration is.
Mediatrix isn’t that a sex thing?
Romans 8:26-27
For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
Please read your Bible carefully so you won't be deceived .
Biblical proof for praying to Mary and Saints
Through Jesus we are priests (mediators/intercessors)
Rev 5:9-10
and they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy art thou to take the scroll and to open its seals, for thou wast slain and by thy blood didst ransom men for God from every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and hast made them a kingdom and PRIESTS to our God, and they shall reign on earth."
Angels and Saints in heaven can hear our hearts because repentance is of the heart. Mary can hear our prayers.
Luke 15:7
Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
Saints in heaven receive the prayers of the Saints on earth.
Rev 5:8
And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;
@ I am glad you agree that it teaches we are to pray for others. Saints in heaven do not lose their role as priest (intercessor). They are alive and can receive and hear our prayer requests Luke 15:7 Rev 5:8
Since Mary is Christian, she is a priest (intercessor). She remains intercessor in heaven.
@@James22426those do not say what you want them to say. At best they hear the prayers. The CC goes further and suggests intercession which is not just hearing, intercession requires action on the part of the intercessor
@@James22426I’m not sure you know what an intercessor is.
Deceived? The Christian church has always been praying through Mary. Even Martin Luther, the Reformist, also practiced this. The discarding of this tradition is a new modern innovation. So you tell me who is deceiving who
"To Jesus through Mary" - St Louis de Montfort
MY SOUL MAGNIFIES THE LORD‼️‼️‼️‼️
So what? My soul also magnifies the Lord. 🤦🏼♂️
@shaneduyvenedewit8621 - that’s the problem, you actually sincerely believe you are on the same level as the Mother of God.
Protestants need a reboot
Software updates lol
@@jaydenrivera-fz9us electro-theraphy lol just a little zap 🤣
@@NikkiMarie4130 Takem to the Apple Store lol
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More like a factory reset😂
I don't need an intercessor.
I've got Jesus.
Why go to the assistant when the boss wants me to talk to him directly.
I don't want the boss angry with me.
@@matthewstolmeier752 you don’t need anyone to pray for you??? You don’t need the other members of the body of Christ? Wow. You’re guilty of violating 1 Corinthians 12. So guess what, the boss is already angry with you.
@VoiceOfReason_ I'm not guilty of anything idiot.
You don't know me. Moron. Who are you to judge anyone?
I certainly don't need any dead people as an intercessor. I have many living people who talk to Jesus, our Savior, as I do to help me.
Now go away moron and learn what God actually wants for prayer.
Maybe try learning what Jesus actually said about prayer. That way, you can stop yourself from looking completely stupid in public.
@@VoiceOfReason_how are you applying 1 Corinthians 12. Nowhere does it command we ask each other for prayers. The chapter is actually talking more about respecting the diversity within the body of Christ.
@@matthewstolmeier752 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with GREAT PATIENCE and instruction.
You immediately twisted what they said from "intercessor" to "someone pray for you" that's not what they said and it's the same twisting you must do to believe praying to the dead that cannot even hear your prayer, because they are not God. @@VoiceOfReason_
Amen 🙏 blessed to be a Catholic
No indeed you are not. Unless you change what you're currently doing, hell awaits you. Please take this seriously as one day it will be too late.🙏
@@LibbySlaughter101 what , eating watermelon ok 👍 God bless everyone
@@susansmadrid4699 Believe me the day will come when you will have to give account for every idle word you have ever spoken. That day will be too late.🙏
@@LibbySlaughter101 no I don’t need to believe you,I believe Jesus Christ, yes I will continue to love the saints , and follow the Taura , God is my mentor ,Blessed to be a catholic,, Amen to Jesus Christ
Catholic sure… but not Christian.
Speak them facts brother 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
To everyone saying “where in the Bible does it say Mary is our intercessor” or “Christ said we can only go to the Father through him”, guys have you ever prayed for someone else? Have you ever asked someone to pray for you? That’s what an intercessor is. It’s still through Christ.
Deuteronomy 13:1-5
Psalm 89:5-8
1 John 2:3-6
Psalm 97:7
Psalm 31:6
2 chronicles 33:15
Jeremiah 7:16-20
Jeremiah 44
Jeremiah 17:5-8
Proverbs 30:5-6
Proverbs 13:13
Proverbs 10:17
Deuteronomy 7:5-6
Deuteronomy 18:9-14
Leviticus 26:1
Leviticus 19:31
John 8:43-44
Matthew 15:7-9
Acts 17:16
1 Corinthians 12:2
Isaiah 42:8
Isaiah 44:9-20
Jonah 2:7-8
John 15:5
John 10:10
1 Corinthians 4:20
1 Timothy 6:3-6
1 Corinthians 14:26
1 Corinthians 14:5
Acts 19:1-7
Acts 18:24-25
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Revelation 21:5-8
Revelation 22:14-16
Revelation 22:8-19
Revelation 18:4-8
Revelation 14:6-7
Acts 4:12
Mark 16:17-18
Mark 3:35
Biblical proof for praying to Mary and Saints
Through Jesus we are priests (mediators/intercessors)
Rev 5:9-10
and they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy art thou to take the scroll and to open its seals, for thou wast slain and by thy blood didst ransom men for God from every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and hast made them a kingdom and PRIESTS to our God, and they shall reign on earth."
Angels and Saints in heaven can hear our hearts because repentance is of the heart. Mary can hear our prayers.
Luke 15:7
Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
Saints in heaven receive the prayers of the Saints on earth.
Rev 5:8
And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;
@James22426 Umm no. You're taking verses out of context to fit a narrative, just like a Jehovah's Witness. No where does it say you're allowed to pray to a dead person let alone statues. Jesus fact checks your blasphemous narritive in the book of Luke.
READ what Messiah said in Luke.
Luke 1:33-35 Jesus replied, “Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?” 34 Then he looked at those around him and said, “Look, these are my mother and brothers. 35 Anyone who does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.
Luke 11:27-28 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
Kneel before God and repent for your blasphemouy!
@@Ken-h9r none of those verses refute the truth that we are Priests (intercessors), saints in heaven can hear us, and saints in heaven receive our prayers.
Give me explanation of Rev 5:9-10, Luke 15:7, Rev 5:8
How can those saints hear you? This is heresy. Not even this priest would agree with you.@@James22426
@@James22426 Jesus was talking about angels rejoicing in heaven, not saints. Omg you're actually making stuff up LOL
As an ex-protestant this video helped me a lot. Thanks from Rio de Janeiro.
Bem vindo de volta pra casa
Mary can't intercede or mediate for you. She's dead...
@@JoaoFerreira-nr8cc Wherever Christ is where our home is...
Arrogant Catholics.. Smh.
@@rachybaby72 She is alive because she is the ark of the new covenant and was ascended to heaven by the Lord as in Psalm 132: "8 Arise, Lord, and come to your resting place, you and the ark of your might."
@JoaoFerreira-nr8cc She's dead.
Why is so difficult?? No one It means no one came to the Father except through me Jesus the only one ❤
There’s still no scripture that says anyone has prayed to Mary or that it is even a thing
Were not praying to her, werr askkng her to pray for us. There is scripture for this. James 5:16
@@ltk.mp3confessing to each other and praying for each other is not praying to Mary. Pray to God.
@@rickydavis7391 never said praying to mary, its asking her to pray for us
@@ltk.mp3 you are praying to her and in that prayer sometimes you ask for intercession. “Pray the Hail Mary” who is that prayer directed to? Why can’t we just be honest and stop playing semantic games?
@@ltk.mp3 for context this is the Mary you pray to according to the “saints.”
St. Bernardine of Sienna “that all obey the commands of Mary, even God himself”
St. Germanus “Thou art mother of God, omnipotent to save sinners, and needest no other recommendation with God”
St. Antoninus “God has placed the whole Church, not only under the patronage, but also under the dominion of Mary.”
St. Peter Damian “the Virgin has all power in heaven as on earth
That’s a big lie!
This is what Romans says:
“Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.”
Romans 8:34
he is using scriptures
He is, but he is twisting the scriptures. Romans 8:34 doesn’t say Jesus is our mediator like he’s saying.
Romans8:34 says Jesus is our intercessor.
Listen to what he is saying.
Mary is not your mediator nor makes intercession for you.
The one who does is Jesus Christ our God and Savior.
The Bible says that saints also intercede for us. Rev 5:8 says, “And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.”
@@AlexRamirez.17 Early Christians interpret the Bible the way he is doing. Protestant came with their own interpretation and now any interpretation before the reformation is a roman interpretation no more interpretation of the early Christians. It seems to me you guys are the once twisting scriptures. You will always need the authority of the Catholic to interpret scriptures for you. The Catholic church has had that,authority since Jesus. The Eucharist is Biblical and yet you do not believe in it, James say faith without works is dead you refuse to believe, Jesus say to follow him carry your cross and yet you say works isnt needed for salvation, Revelation justifies the intercession of the saints you refuse to believe, Mathiew spoke of purgatory, you say it's not Biblical because you want God to use the word purgatory. God instructs Moses to make images on the Arc for Worship, you call catholic idols worshipers for making images of Jesus and heavenly icons...... yet you say the Catholics church is not Biblical. You Think we do no know about Christ being the one mediator ? We do but Even Christ in the transfiguration spoke to Moses an Elijah, If they could hear Christ why do you think the cant hear us? One mediator here one mediator there and yet you ask your friends to pray for you. God is just amazed by how you practice what you preach
Continuer votre bon travail! O Marie conçue sans péché priez pour nous qui avons recours à vous! 🌹🌹🌹 Jesus-Christ fils du Dieu vivant prends pitié de nous pêcheurs, soit miséricordieux pour nous et pour le monde entier.
Merci Jésus de nous donner votre mère comme mère et reine. Marie est le refuge des pêcheurs ❤
Where in the Bible does it say Mary is an intercessor?
John 2:1-11
@@Killth3batthat passage does not specifically call Mary an intercessor, it simply shows the one time she asked her son Yeshua to help the Wedding-goers with their Wine problem, in this context Yeshua was still alive in the flesh as well as the fact that no one went to Mary to ask her to ask Jesus, she simply asked him herself. That’s not interceding/intercession
I’ve tried to convert to orthodoxy/catholicism but everytime a question is asked that challenges their forms of idolatry an irrelevant verse is brought up or taken out of the context it was originally in to fit their narrative
@@Killth3batthat’s how thy teach you to read the Bible …??? And you guys say Christians make up our own interpret of the Bible 🤦🏻♀️
@@danib712 Catholics are Christian....Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity....
Mary is the deceased mother of our Lord Jesus Christ. His mother is not to be venerated. Catholics and anyone else who prays to Mary is worshipping an idol. She is NOT an intercessor. She is dead. Christ is also our intercessor with the FATHER interceding on our behalf.
Jesus says "Pray to the Father through, me." You are recognising the sacrifice, so the Father sees you clean and free from sin.
So, totally agree with you 100%
Also, to the Catholics...why did your church change the 2nd commandment?
Exodus 20:4
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Why did the catholic church split the 10th?
Do you know, the first half of the 10 commandments is to honour God, the rest is to honour mankind. So what you did is put an honouring of mankind before the rest of the laws that honour God.
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me..."
You have been misled by catholosizm.
@@vincenthartzenberg5794 How can you say that you do not believe in the resurrection of the body in the afterlife when it is in the Bible? Matthew 22:30-32. Mary is in Heaven. She is alive. Mary can intercede for us. Anybody can intercede for anyone. 1 Timothy 2:1-4 calls for people to pray for others. Jesus does this too in Matthew 5:44. Hebrews 12:23 reveals that people in Heaven are made perfect and righteous. James 5:15 shows that the prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. We are simply not worshipping Mary. We are calling for her powerful intercession on us to bring us closer to God. The more we please Mary, the more we please Jesus. Wouldn’t you be happy if someone treated your mother with utmost respect and honour? This is why we have special devotions and artworks devoted to Mary. “Never be afraid of loving the Blessed Virgin too much. You can never love her more than Jesus did.” - St. Maximilian Kolbe.
then why did the angels venerate her with the hail Mary? luke 1:28
@@vincenthartzenberg5794 Catholics only have 1 God lmao. Mary isnt considered a God in christianity nor is she worshipped
Exodus 20:3-6 Amplified Bible (AMP)
“You shall have no other gods before Me. “You shall not make for yourself any idol, or any likeness (form, manifestation) of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth [as an object to worship]
Thank you for the videos... being catholic, they are many things I don't know. I got to learn many things from you
I listen to Jesus
He said to pray to God Our Father
Just as the apostles prayed
TO GOD OUR FATHER
Amen
By that same logic do you not pray to Jesus?
@@tenmrchicken2719 girl what in the world are you even TALKING ABOUT😭
@@tenmrchicken2719 the Bible tells us to pray to God the Father, in the Name of God the Son, by way of God the Holy Spirit. We only pray to God, by God, and in the name of God. He gets all the glory. ❤
@@Star.Gore7If we take that literally(The Lord’s Prayer), it means we can only ever pray to God the Father and never to Jesus or the Holy Spirit either. There is also no mention in the Bible of anyone praying to the Holy Spirit. It’s problematic to base everything you believe on what is explicitly in the Bible, which is why I am currently converting to Catholicism. Biblical literalism and sola scriptura lead to all sorts of problematic interpretations and cults.
Rom 8;34 Jesus is at the right hand of God and makes intercession for us.
1John 2:1 Jesus is our Advicate with the Father.
Heb 7;25 Jesus lives to make intercession for us.
When the disciples asked how they should pray
Jesus said OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN
He didnt say to pray to our mother in heaven
Neither do we see ANY mention of praying to mary in the epistles
Is the voice of reason
Or voice of man
Voice of ASSUMPTION
THANK YOU this is scary how ppl think of any way to give worship , praise and prayer to anyone BUT Jesus
Praying to Jesus mother Marry is the same thing as asking a friend of yours or a priest to pray for you
Stop over complicating you pray to a highly respected memper of heaven and in turn he/she/it prays to Jesus for you and that way your prayer becomes much more powerful
Imagine having Jesus mother ask for your sh itty ass to be saved Jesus will be much more inclined to save you
His freaking mother begs him to do it hes 10000000000% more likely to do it suddenly not because you deserve it but because hes own mother begs Him to do it and He respects way too much to let her request be completely in vain
Marry is a mediator of a THE one true mediator that can be true with your gaurdian angel a saint a prophet anyone that is in heaven
Mary was less forgiving, less loving, and was a sinner in need of saving. Why would you think she’d listen to you more than Christ who desires that all reach repentance?
Where does it say Mary intercedes?
It doesn't. 👆 In fact it doesn't say anyone other than Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
They dont believe in sola scriptura so ...
@@TheMarch05it’s not sola scriptura. . IT IS THE DOCTRINE
this is why they said if anyone COME WITH ANOTHER DOCTRINE
LET THEM BE ACCURSED and catholic people doctrine IS CURSED. THEY ARE SOLD DELUSIONS and can’t comprehend THE gospel
Blind
James 5:16: "Therefore, confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective."
"A righteous person is powerful and (((effective)))". Christians don't believe that any true believers are actually dead and gone, as jesus said in John 11:25-26
'I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
The entire logic behind the thought of intercessors isnt that we're praying to them, but rather asking them to pray for us.
@@tyerannical3650 why you need them to pray for you? Your prayers are to the Father thru Jesus and The HS is the one who taught you how to pray.
Talk intercession:
Hebrews 7:25 ESV
[25] Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.
intercessor
/ˈɪntəˌsɛsə,ˌɪntəˈsɛsə/
noun
a person who intervenes on behalf of another... (that sounds like a Mediator to me)
Better stop praying and interceding for your brothers & sisters in Christ then. That would make you a co-laboring mediator
@@kimperrine co-laboring mediator.. ..haha i like it. another tongue twisting word from Satan himself. Words were non existant a few years ago. like Cisgender, Genderfluid, Gender expression, Afluid, Pandgender...But Im happy to be called a Co-Laborer. I think more rights are needed for Co-Laborers
James 5:16: "Therefore, confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective."
"A righteous person is powerful and (((effective)))". Christians don't believe that any true believers are actually dead and gone, as jesus said in John 11:25-26
'I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
The entire logic behind the thought of intercessors isnt that we're praying to them, but rather asking them to pray for us.
@@kimperrine ur an idiot if you think thats the same as people in heaven receiving your prayers. someone that's alive on earth like you and is in your community is what the verses were talking about, and ultimately, it is still up to the will of God. No saint can nor Mary can overwrite that.
Ok what verse in the Bible says that she is our intercessor?
...and you'll get silence. Guys like Alex only succeed by taking advantage of those ignorant of God's holy Word.
Romans 8
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Wedding at Cana she is an intercessor, all Christians are called to be Intercessors according to Scripture, and Jesus is the a King of the Davidic Kingdom so read 2 Kings ch 2, we see Bathsheba the Queen Mother make a request to her son Solomon, and he replies with "make your request mother, for I can refuse you nothing" the Queen Mother is also given a throne and sits to the right of the King in the Davidic Kingdom according to the Old Testament.
Idk how Christians in 2024 can't see what the early Christians clearly saw, which is Jesus is King, making His Mother Mary the Geverah or the Queen Mother of the Davidic Kingdom. Jesus is the New Adam, the earliest Christians called Mary the New Eve, this makes too much sense and shows why Christianity brought so much dignity to women, which wasn't shown to them before Christianity. Gods greatest creation is a women
@@jd3jefferson556 NONE of that is valid. God does not share His glory with his creation, that is a HARD principle all the way through scripture, not some convoluted here and there scriptural twisting from human reasoning as you are doing. 'Queen mother'??? No, just NO.
@logofreetv if God didn't share His glory then there aren't any angels and saints in heaven.
Not biblical! The Queen Mother has a huge role to play in the Davidic Kingdom, go read Kings it's in the Old Testament.
I think you're jealous of Mary and you refuse to honor her even though she's the Mother of God and God's most perfect creation, He filled her to the brim with His grace more than any other creature ever.
Behold your mother!
I love your content brother. But I wanted to mention that there is a very strong Catholic teaching, via many pontiffs, that Mary is the Mediatrix of All Graces.
From Scripture it works like this: Jesus is the one Mediator between God and man insofar as He is both true God and true man, and we must be in Him to be saved. He is the one Bridge. But Mary truly mediates the human will of her Son.
Check it out... at the Wedding Feast at Cana it is Mary who tells the servants, "Do whatever He tells you." So when Our Lord tells them to "fill the jars up to the brim" the servants obey not only Jesus but also (now transparently), with every subsequent command of Our Lord, they obey also (foundationally) Mary. So Mary mediates the obedience of the servants with her Son. There is no obedience to Jesus without a prior obedience to Mary: this is the revelation of the Wedding Feast at Cana, and it points to the teaching that Mary is the Mediatrix of All Graces. Pax brother!
Thanks for your comment. Can I ask an honest question? None of the apostles picked up on this teaching from John 2 in their epistles to the churches connecting our obedience to Christ and Mary. Do you know who the first church father was to make your point that “there is no obedience to the Son without prior obedience to Mary?” On the surface it seems like a real stretch of the passage.
If jesus is a mediator, a bridge connecting god and man, doesnt just mean he is a messenger, a prophet, not a god?
Jesus himself said theres is only 1 true god, and he said he is a mediator between god and man,
doesnt this show that he is a messenger only?
Because of the confusion over over the use of the term mediator in regard to Mary, the church encourages us to use other terms such as intercessor. She mediates Christ to us in many ways, the obvious being her motherhood of Christ. We honour her, but any legitimate honour leads us closer to Christ.
@@HeavnzMiHome thank you for your response! So you agree with the statement that was made, “there is no obedience to the Son that is not prior obedience to Mary?” And if so, I’m trying to find out where this thinking is first taught explicitly in Church history.
@@syafiqhabib1444 good question. I’m guessing your question comes from a Muslim background, and I totally understand where the confusion would come from. We both would agree that just as the complexity of creation is way beyond our full understanding, so is the nature of God Himself. In the same book that Jesus calls the Father, “the only true God” (gospel of John), equality with God is attributed to Him in several places. We believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons within the one true God. Each is fully God, thus God exists in relationship with Himself. This is how Jesus can be our mediator to the Father and be God at the same time, just as the Holy Spirit is God who lives in us.
Thank you for reading; I hope that makes sense!
Right about Jesus! And He is not only our Mediator but the One who always is our intercessor.
Hebrews 7:25-27
Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them. For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens. He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself.
Would have been a great spot for at least some mention of even one of the MANY special additional functions ascribed to Mary. Focus of the faith remains One and only ... Jesus.
Preach brotha!! Ave Maria, Viva Christo Rey!
Dont Catholics pray Hail Mary with the rosary?
@@richardgomez7840"hail" is a form of greeting
No sir. SOLI DEO GLORIA.
bro started with mary then Jesus smh
Catholic Church is the one true church
Mary is not omnipresent. She can't hear your prayers. Jesus is our Mediator. Our fellow Christians are our intercessors.
Also... in the hour of our death??? If Jesus quoted the Deuterocanon, why did He never quote that silly verse in 2nd Maccabees? If it was THAT important He wouldn't have mentioned it right? At least once or twice.
The Bride of Christ (all true, born again followers of Jesus) is the one true church.
That's your pride speaking
On the contrary it is the pharisitical sect of our day.
@@michaelsinclairs6224 it's insane how they don't see the resemblance... Ah wait, they don't read the Bible. How would they know...
The Bible doesn't say Mary is our intercessor. And it NEVER says to pray to anybody other than the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
We only WORSHIP God. You should learn what the word "pray" means. Stop being brainwashed and start being educated.
@@pebsstonesteel1424 Trying to change the subject to worship for some reason? Back to the actual topic: The Bible does NOT say anything about praying to ANYBODY but the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. And I am educated on what the Bible says. I've read it cover to cover multiple times. Have you? If you have some special version of the Bible, please point to a scripture that says we can or should pray to the saints (aka, other human beings). Don't just tell me I should learn more. Cite a scripture that supports praying to Mary or to the saints.
Jesus is both our Mediator and Intercessor.
Romans 8:34, which states, "Christ Jesus is the one who died, but even more, has been raised; he also is at the right hand of God and intercedes for us".
Hebrews 7:25: Jesus "always lives to intercede" for us.
He is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one goes to the Father except through Him. Peace🕊️
The fact that he came to earth was to bridge the gap between Us and God and to break every other chain and Middle Men and everything in between... So why bring Mary or Joseph or Whomsoever Blah Blah Blah. ??
Deceived. ❤ you. Pray God restore those who are fallen and GRAB us. This is sick. I am so sorry I ever looked back to this damned cursed world and RULES by Satan greedy children.
But where in the Bible does it say Mary is our intercessor?
Not Mary specifically, but all Christians are intercessors, we can find an example of this in Romans 15:30. Given the foundation that all Christians can intercede for one another it only makes sense that Mary and other saints are able of interceding for us, since they're very much alive and not dead like many say.
Why do you go ask anyone to pray for you
Those people are alive, Mary is dead.
@@chrisc595 God is the God of the what? Of the dead? Must have missed that part in the Bible.
John 2, 1 - 12
The topic is Mary's maternal mediation. Can it be truly said that Mary mediates Christ her Son to us? Is she the Mother of all believers? And what exactly did St. Ephraem the Syrian (+ 373) mean when he said: "After the Mediator, you (Mary) are the Mediatrix of the whole world" (Oratio IV, Ad Deiparam).
I will attempt to demonstrate Mary's maternal mediation from Scripture.
Primarily, the unique mediation of the "One Mediator," Christ Our Lord ought to be understood of His hypostatic union: i.e., He is both true God and true man and thus is, in Himself, the Bridge between God and man. In this sense, He is the Unique Mediator.
The first Scripture is Jn 19:26-27: "Woman behold your son; behold your Mother." The interpretation put forth is that this is a universal proclamation of Our Savior, before His death, for all Christians: namely, that we must behold Mary as being our Mother in the order of grace. This claim is based on: 1. the term, "beloved disciple," which is the self-designation of the Evangelist, and which was inspired as such to be open to a universal significance; that is, that every person beloved of Our Lord is signified also in this name. 2. the unique fruitfulness of Mary's faith, which conceived Our Lord by the power of the Holy Spirit in the fullness of time at the Incarnation, and which at Calvary remained singularly fruitful in conceiving the life of grace within the Beloved Disciple and thus, by extension, within the heart of every believer, inasmuch as we have all been reborn by the saving mystery of Calvary. 3. the appellation, "Woman," by Our Lord, which situates the Crucifixion typologically in the context of a New Creation: a New Adam and a New Eve.
Regarding the designation of New Eve, we first hear of this term in St. Justin Martyr (+ 165), St. Irenaeus (+202), and Tertullian (+ 240). Justine lived in Palestine. Irenaeus was born in Turkey and lived in France. And Tertullian lived in Carthage, N. Africa. Given the geographic diffusion of this 2nd century teaching, it most likely originated with the Apostles themselves. Therefore, as Eve was the mother of disbelief unto original sin, the New Eve is the Mother of faith unto our justification.
The second passage illustrating Mary's maternal mediation occurred just days after the conception of Jesus Christ in her womb. At the Visitation, she carries, in haste, the Divine Presence to Elizabeth, who is six months pregnant with St. John the Baptist. Elizabeth testifies, "A soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy" (Lk 1:44). The interpretation runs thus. Mary communicates the grace of faith to both Elizabeth, who is filled with the Holy Spirit, and John, who leaps for joy. That is, grace is communicated through this word of faith to the hearers, hearers who are also in the Divine Presence of Jesus Christ. But Mary mediates the mystery through her word, which is the instrumental cause of this grace. The assertion is that her word is causal, in the effects evident in Elizabeth and John. And this interpretation is based on Elizabeth's own observation and confession. Jesus Christ, who is the source of all grace is the final cause of this grace, but it appears as working -- or mediated -- through a creature.
A third passage that has been put forth above is the Wedding Feast at Cana (Jn 2:1-12), at which Mary enjoys a preeminent place: "And the Mother of Jesus was there." In this interpretation the will of the servants is observed to be first and foundationally obedient to the command of Mary -- "Do whatever He tells you" -- an obedience through which the servants pass as through a door so as to become obedient to Our Lord's subsequent commands -- "Fill the jars with water" and "Now draw out." In this way, Mary is seen to mediate the servants' obedience to her Son. This is a volitional mediation and, as such, demonstrates the principle "To Jesus through Mary." That is, as Jesus Christ first came to us sinners through the Woman, so we likewise return to communion with Him -- our obedience of faith -- through the Woman. This also respects the chronology of the Fall: the sin of Eve prior to the sin of Adam. Here we have the faith of Mary unto the righteousness of Christ. In the language of the Church Fathers, it is the untying of the knot of disobedience.
A fourth passage demonstrating the maternal mediation of Mary is the Woman of the Apocalypse (Ch. 12). The Woman travails with her firstborn son, who is destined to rule all nations with an iron rod (i.e., the Christ). Subsequently, His brethren are also mentioned, also born of the Woman, although the birth is singular. The interpretation is that Jesus Christ has only one Mother, and since He has come to live in us, through justification by His Blood, we also have this same Mother. Thus also Jn 19:26 above, "Behold your Mother."
In the above, Mary is observed to be the Mother of the Church, and the Mother of all believers. Her faith is singularly fruitful not only at the Annunciation, but also at Calvary unto the perpetuation of the life of Jesus Christ in the heart of believers.
1 Timothy 2:5
5. For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Luke 11:2
2. And He said to them, "When you pray, say: 'Father, hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.
Any one can mediate for another but the foundation of her mediation is this one and only salvivic BLOOD of Christ.
The same applies to you.
@@Christusvinci Only a living member in the Body of Christ, redeemed by His Blood, can mediate for another. And the one who made this Blood possible (i.e., the Incarnation of the Word), by her maternal Fiat, still holds the same preeminent, maternal and mediating role for Christ's Body the Church. In other words:
there is no Precious Blood (the Incarnation) without Mary's Yes;
there is no redeeming Blood applied to your soul (the Mystical Body of Christ) without Mary's Yes.
The Mother is not optional in the generation of offspring.
We have an advocate with the father to come boldly to the throne of God. We don’t need an intercessor.
But Mary is not our intercessor
Correct
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; *by the which we draw nigh unto God*
UNTO GOD
THROUGH CHRIST
NOT UNTO MARY OR THROUGH MARY
20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:
21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
22 By so much was *Jesus made a surety* of a better testament.
23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost *that come unto God by him* , seeing he ever liveth to make *intercession for them*
Workers of iniquity need to repent of their unbelief
agreed
false
No she's not. Who made that up? A pope?
It's doesn't say anything anywhere in the Bible to pray to Mary or the saints..
All Christians are supposed to be intercessors according to 1 Timothy 2:1-2 since it says to make intercessory prayers for all.
The bible tells me not to consult the dead and when asking for intersession it should be from someone who is ALIVE...
the saints are alive
The bible doesn’t say to pray to the saints that have left the earth it tells us to pray for one another that are alive
@@elenadexter5430 so we are dead in heaven?
John 11:25-26 ESV
[25] Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, [26] and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
Luke 20:37-38 ESV
[37] But that the dead are raised, even Moses showed, in the passage about the bush, where he calls the Lord the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. [38] Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living, for all live to him.
Consulting the dead through divination is not the same as prayer. You are conflating the two. And the Bible says those who are in christ are not dead. Jesus talked to Moses and Elijah (both died for 100s of years before him) but he was not condemn for divination, was he?
In fact, we call her a "mediatrix of all graces," but the title cannot be held as separate from her son's sacrifice. Rather her role is so unified with that of her son that it contributes to his highest sacrifice. Paul says that "we fill up what is lacking in the death of Christ." Mary did so in a measure that no one else can hope to approach.
Great explanation! Respect Sir! Salve Maria and Viva Christo Rey!✝️❤️🕊️🙏📿📿📿📿
there is no single reason why a Christian should pray to anyone but God....
period
Intercession isn't direct prayer
Did you watch this video at all?
@guardtheham1233 Yes, intercession is direct prayer... you're praying directly to whomever you're asking for it...
Give me one good reason why you can not go to God directly.
@tellthetruth6430 Yes, I watched the entire thing....
(Thank you for taking the time to respond, by the way)
Answer these:
What is a valid reason for praying to anyone other than God as a believer?
Is Mary or any of the saints omniscient?
When did Jesus pray to anyone other than God the Father or instruct anyone to pray to his mother or any of the OT saints?
Your response is appreciated... Thanks!
@@thehelpdesk4051 Which part of the video did he say we pray to someone other than God?
Luke 11:27-28
New International Version
27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”
28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
I will simplify the equation: if anyone prays to anyone or thing apart from our Father in heaven according to His fullness, you are speaking to demons, unclean spirits.
That’s called satanic worship
Define "pray to."
@@eddardgreybeard prayer=worship. you guys are so pedantic with your demonic doctrine.
@@asto5767
Actually, no. The only ones being pedantic are the ones removing all nuance from the definition of prayer.
Prayer, by definition, doesn't exclusively refer to worship.
So when we are simply asking for prayers, prayers that will be offered by Saints to our Lord and Savior in Heaven, and you want to walk right in and tell us we're "worshipping saints" regardless of context, you just come off looking extremely ignorant.
While Mary holds a special place as the mother of Jesus, the Bible makes it clear that her role does not grant her unique access to God. In Luke 11:27-28, a woman in the crowd praised Mary for giving birth and nursing Jesus. However, Jesus responded by emphasizing the importance of hearing and obeying the Word of God. This indicates that spiritual blessings and closeness to God come through faith and obedience, not through earthly relationships or lineage.
Luke 11:27-28 (NIV):
"As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, 'Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.' He replied, 'Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.'”
2. One Mediator:
1 Timothy 2:5 emphasizes that there is only one mediator between God and mankind, which is Jesus Christ. This verse reinforces the idea that all believers, regardless of their earthly connections, have direct access to God through Christ, without the need for intermediaries like Mary.
1 Timothy 2:5 (NIV):
"For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus..."
3. Exclusive Worship:
In Luke 4:8, Jesus quotes Scripture, affirming that worship should be directed exclusively to the Lord God. This verse underscores the principle that God alone is worthy of worship and service, not any human, including Mary.
Luke 4:8 (NIV):
"Jesus answered, 'It is written: Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'"
4. Mary's Sinlessness:
The Bible explicitly states that Jesus is the only one who lived a sinless life. This is supported by various passages, such as:
2 Corinthians 5:21 (NIV):
"God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."
Hebrews 4:15 (NIV):
"For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet he did not sin."
1 Peter 2:22 (NIV):
"He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth."
These verses highlight the sinlessness of Jesus, contrasting it with the human condition.
In conclusion, while Mary's role as the mother of Jesus is highly respected in the Christian faith, the Bible consistently emphasizes that all believers have direct access to God through faith in Jesus Christ. There is no biblical support for the idea that Mary should receive prayers from Christians or that she was without sin. These concepts are not explicitly taught in Scripture and are therefore matters of theological interpretation within specific Christian traditions.
Don't take verses out of context. What you're doing is calling the Holy Spirit a liar solely so that you can claim Catholicism is false.
When Jesus says "rather blessed are those who hear the word and keep it", he's not saying Mary isn't blessed. He's instead just readjusting the focus back onto what He's talking about. Contextually, the woman felt she couldn't be blessed because she wasn't related to Christ, thus Christ basically said "those who hear and keep the word are blessed".
in Luke 1:41-44, when the Holy Spirit (who is fully God) fills Elizabeth, she cries out to Mary, "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb! And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy."
And since the Holy Spirit is fully God, He cannot lie, and since Elizabeth, suddenly filled with the Spirit, cried out "Blessed are you among women!", we can safely rest assured that Mary is indeed blessed among all women.
Or better yet, why don't we look at Luke 1:28 where Mary is given the title "Κεχαριτωμένη." aka Full of Grace, perfect passive participle - Can you name me any other person in the Scripture who is Κεχαριτωμένη? (To save you some time, no, you can't. There is only one person described as Κεχαριτωμένη in the Scripture, and that is mother Mary.)
Mary was very clearly given a special kind of grace.
“But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will reward you.”
Mathew 6:6
“But Jesus told him, ‘Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”
Methew 8:22
Why do you need an intercessor?
cuz catholics are pagans that practice idolatry and white magic.
Mary doesn't intercede for anyone! Its unbiblical!
but it is tho
@@3.v.4.n show me.
@@simuljustusetpeccator5547He's been silent
@@simuljustusetpeccator5547he couldn't find it, I suppose😂😂😂
Of course he can't find it because no one prayed to saints in the bible it's a doctrine of devils Satan wants to enter their life's and this is how he does it
Nowhere does it say pray to the dead for anything. Even Paul doesn't support this. The really sad thing is, even new AI technology refutes this bible theology. Type it in your smart phone, does the bible say you can pray to dead saints and you will get the answer. It's just not the one catholics would want to hear. Second they would say that AI is of the devil because it don't agree.
A mediator and intercessor have very similar meanings. You can use the very same term that Jesus interceded on our behalf.
I guess you don't understand the meaning of the Greek word that was translated in Timothy "mesites" means to go between, reconcilor, intercessor. A mediator is someone that reconciles two parties that are estranged.
Ask the AI which church Jesus started. I bet you’ll say it’s of the devil when you get your answer. Informed Catholics would not say that because informed Catholics understand that A) Implicate doctrines and explicate doctrines can be found in the Bible. The Trinity is implicit as nowhere in the Bible does it say God is a Triune God. Most importantly though is the fact that Catholics adhere to both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. Also, which Bible did you put in? Catholic Bible has all of the original canon of Scripture.
yeah catholic exegesis is awful and they just distort scripture to justify their worship over a creation of God instead of the CREATOR.
I have one question as a Protestant who wants to understand better.
Why do we need intercession from saints and mother Mary if it says in the Bible that the Holy Spirit is our intercessor and that the Holy Spirit groans our prayers out to our Heavenly Father.
Romans 8:26
“Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words”.
Immaculate Mary your praises we sing. Your reign now in splendor with Jesus our King. In Heaven the blessed your glory proclaim; On earth we your children invoke your sweet name
Jean Gaignet
Immaculate Mary
Luke 11:27-28
New International Version
27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”
28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
Mary did that... and luke 1:48@@ArgentWarrior
@@ArgentWarrior ikr Jesus already debunked the marian lies in Luke yet these closet pagans wanna argue against THE LORD
Luke 11:27-28
Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed! But he said, 'Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!'"
Jesus places the church over his own mother. Those that do the will.
What is the Will of the Father?
For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him- John 6:40
The Bible says nothing about paying to anyone but the FATHER. YHWH. So All the Hail Marys can go right out the window. It also says not to worship idols and the Catholic Church is filled with them even the Vatican has a statue of Lucifer. Nuff said🤷🏻♂️ if this offends you go back in scripture and reevaluate your beliefs
Why go through Mary when Jesus said we can go to Him and He will go to the Father? And in terms of intercesssion, it is the Holy Ghost that intercedes for us, whether Im praying for myself or for others, tell me this, If I pray to God through Jesus and with the Holy Spirit and you go through Mary first, do you believe your prayers will be heard first or yield better results? If the answer is “no” then what is the purpose? If the answer is “yes” what is the biblical basis of that? Also recall this verse in Luke 11:27-28: And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”. Jesus knew one day people would try to elevate Mary to a point of blasphemous worship. Yes you say you don’t worship but actions speak otherwise, you kneel,kiss, pray to multiple statues of Mary, though you say it’s not worship. At the end of the day, words can be twisted to fit both narratives but if it does not add to your salvation but could potentially risk it, why take that risk?
“Intercessor” is different than “mediator”, much like “veneration” is different than “praying”.
However, the problem is when Romans use the “intercessor” as a mediator to Christ on our behalf, then one can see Rome is using semantics with these words. In practice, Romans do view St. Mary as an “intercessor”, but in practice try to use her as a mediator for mankind instead of Christ Himself.
The very same holds true between the semantics of “veneration” and “pray”, and the actual practice of praying to saints instead of God Himself.
And... Where is that in the Bible
Asking others to pray for us
According to 1 Timothy 2:1-2 all Christians are supposed to pray for one another, meaning we are supposed to be intercessors.
I really think you catholics put things into the text that are not even there like venial sins and mortal sins but the wages of any sin is death. Like wash your face when you fast but you literally make people know you are fasting. Call no man father but you call priest father. Like Mary is sinless but she rejoiced in a savior. Or purgatory which isn't biblical at all or peter being the first pope and yet your new pope is saying all religions will get you to heaven. Like come on you rely on tradition not necessarily on the savior.
@@yeshuasaves217 I’m not Catholic, I’m just saying we are supposed to pray for one another by doing intercessory prayers for all.
@@yeshuasaves217so the part of scripture where it says some sins are deadly and some aren't we should just ignore that part?
Do you honestly think that murder is the same as like driving recklessly? Both are sins, but come on they are clearly not on the same level. It's basic logic
“Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let’s hold firmly to our confession. For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things just as we are, yet without sin. Therefore let’s approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace for help at the time of our need.”
Hebrews 4:14-16 NASB2020
We have no need for anyone to talk to God for us. No priest. No Saints. Instead, with boldness, we can approach the throne of God and humble ourselves and ask forgiveness ourselves. All of that because Jesus was our high priest. He intercedes for us. That’s also why the veil at the temple was torn when Jesus died, because it symbolized the split between us and God being bridged through our Lord Jesus Christ. This means we can go to God ourselves in prayer, and ask Him for forgiveness. Amen for that. Have a blessed day my brothers and sisters!
@MrBeanhead3100 Priests are mentioned several times in the NT. The apostles are appointing priests, deacons, and bishops. What Bible do you read?
Why do you suppose the disciples of the apolostles were writing these epistles about these offices? Who do you think would have been chosen to spread the truth and lead the churches? Did you imagine it was a free for all like modern-day Christianity?
Ignatius of Antioch (d. A.D. 107), who wrote at length of the authority of bishops as distinct from presbyters and deacons (Epistle to the Magnesians 6:1, 13:1-2; Epistle to the Trallians 2:1-3; Epistle to the Smyrnaeans 8:1-2)
@@FaithTruthLogicReason I read the inspired Word of God. The Bible. The one that says I can find forgiveness and mercy through Jesus sacrifice on the cross. Which one do you read my friend?
Yes, correct, the apostles in the New Testament epistles are appointing leaders in churches. Many times, they mention Deacons, Elders, and some sort of “Shepherds” (or as I would call them, pastors) of those churches. I am not disagreeing with having a church leadership at all, and never said I was. I was disagreeing with the priesthood being part of that leadership. The priesthood that says I must confess to a priest to be saved. When this verse tells me, very clearly, that through Jesus, I can approach the throne of God and confess to God, asking for grace and mercy. That is the only point I have made my friend. God bless you today!
@MrBeanhead3100
1 Timothy 3
Qualifications of Bishops. This saying can be trusted: Whoever wants to be a bishop desires a noble task. 2 Therefore, a bishop must be above reproach, the husband of only one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, and a good teacher. 3 He must not be a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not prone to quarreling, not greedy.
4 He must manage his own household well and ensure that his children are submissive and respectful in every way. 5 For if someone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of the Church of God? 6 He should not be a recent convert so that he will not become conceited and incur the same condemnation as the devil. 7 He must also enjoy a good reputation among outsiders so that he may not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s snare.
Qualifications of Deacons. 8 Similarly, deacons must exhibit a sense of dignity, not indulging in double-talk or excessive consumption of wine, and not being greedy. 9 They must hold fast to the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 Let them first be tested. They can be appointed as deacons only if they are beyond reproach.
11 Women[b] must likewise exhibit a sense of dignity and not be given to spreading slander. They must be temperate and faithful in all things.
12 Deacons must have only one wife and be able to manage their children and their own households. 13 Those deacons whose work is exemplary will achieve a high standing and gain great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.
Acts 14
23 In each Church, they appointed presbyters for them, and with prayer and fasting they commended them to the Lord in whom they had come to believe.
Just a couple of places you failed to mention. There is more. Would you like me to throw in some more early church documents?
Anyone can approach the throne of God. Duh. Jesus is in our Tabernacle in every catholic church and has been since He revealed hims resurrected body for the first time in the breaking of the bread. You just don't get the symbolism of the OT to the NT. Those who can't see God's miracles either don't have the eyes to see. They are blind.
New christian here: Where does it say Mary is an intercessor in the Bible?
John 2:1-11
Specifically in verse 3, what is she doing. meditate on her action and her her words. May the Holy Spirit guide you to the fullness of the truth
Where does it say that Jesus is God in the bible? You have to infer certain things.
@@Kikki_3
And when they ran out of wine, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.”
I don’t see anything here… can you elaborate ?
@@RebiwGiant-um8vp there’s plenty of places where Jesus equates himself and attributes to God. He doesn’t have to say “I am God” in those specific words.
@@joeshaer777 well, you had to infer that to understand, right?
I'm gonna pass on that and stay safe. I'll continue to pray to the Lord as instructed and ask those that are alive to pray for me when I need. I except Mary of course as the mother of Christ, but since there is no command nor instruction to pray to her I'll be keeping clear of that.
Please keep praying to God in the name of Jesus Christ. That's what this young man is saying in this video. Perhaps you missed that point. The Catholic Church has never asked otherwise, as many protestants mistakenly believe.
@@tellthetruth6430 Oh so he wasn't suggesting to pray in this way "Hail Mary full of grace the lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy whom Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death." Yeah, thats actually prayer. It may not be worshipping but it is consulting with the dead.
@@Rendasd Our God is the God of the living and not the God of the dead. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Mosses, Elijah, Blessed Virgin Mary, Peter, Paul, Anthony and so on. Book of John 11 Verses 25 to 26. [25] Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
The saints are alive with God in Heaven and know what's happening here on earth. The Hail Mary you recited are 90% scriptures with a request for our mother, the mother of God to join us/ask/pray to our God. Please note that we Catholics include Jesus in God in this regard. To understand this, you'd have to understand the concept of the Holy Trinity.
@@tellthetruth6430aah keep your hoole cat hole , just recite the holeey hole of Mary: where in the Bible it says Mary deserves prayer and worship, or she's an intercessor! No more Bs
@@tellthetruth6430don't make false claims.
The rosary prayer called the Hail Mary is at most 60% biblical.
The rest is added on. Count the words. Do the math. Don't just put in random figures and think it is facts.
Even the devil at the temptation of Jesus used "90%" of Scripture mixed in with lies to try to get him to fall.
Jesus overcame through using Scripture. Not by using vague concepts formed by men.
started looking your videos yesterday, and im so glad to see someones (with a different skin colour and language) spreading the same message as me.
Jesus is the one mediator between man and the Father.
Mary is an intercessor between man and Jesus. Not between man and the Father.
Protestants enjoy being obtuse.
1. Mary's Unique Position:
@@absolutepixels3812 don't ask any friends to pray for you, because you don't need their prayers since you can go directly to Jesus.🙂
@@absolutepixels3812 how do you KNOW Jesus is forgiving you?
@@absolutepixels3812 that's fine.
@@absolutepixels3812
We don't go to any of the saints when it comes to forgiveness or repentance, what's your point?
So wise theologically but so blinded spiritually. Those who worships Mary, no Salvation for such people, the God of this age has blinded the churches too.
How is saying Mary is an intercessor worship?
@@nd8322 the God lol 😂 ok 👍 God is one , blessed to be a Catholic in the name of the father son and Holy Spirit, God is my mentor The Catholic Church is my calling
its not even theologically wise, this is awful exegesis of scripture.
The Bible shows us that Jesus speaks to the Father on our behalf. Romans 8:34 says that Jesus “is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.” In 1 John 2:1 we read that Jesus is our “advocate with the Father,” and from Hebrews 7:25 we learn that Jesus “always lives to intercede” for us.
So stop praying for friends and family. Your intercession is no good by your logic.
and the saints too
My friends aren't dead
Prayer for friends and family helps strengthen the community of faith here on earth. God has perfect judgement. It’s hard for me to accept the argument that, with enough prayers from enough people, God will change his answer when he already arrived at one via perfect judgement.
@@lovaboy57 if you are praying like God is a genie, you may want to address that first. We merely make our petition known, and hopefully the area that the person is trying to cover in prayer is from a place of humility and charity.
Well said.
I'm up for meditation AND intercession.😊
yeah. she is your intercessor and you give her God-like power like hearing millions of prayers at the same time. Something that is reserved to God only and can be done by God only.
That's not a God power
@@fredharvey2720no? Then what is it?
@@fredharvey2720Yes it is. Only God is omnipresent and capable of hearing millions of prayers at once.
I’d rather be wrong not doing something that I am not told to do in the word of God. Than be wrong about doing some man explained tradition. It’s going to be an interesting judgement day 🤔
@sansebastiansj You mean like having the assumed God like judgment of removing books from the Bible and cherry picking Scripture like Protestantism? 🤡
If Mary a loving mother of Jesus had Deity, she would have prevented Jesus Crucifixion and so would Peter. Jesus is the only advocate with God and the veil was torn into that we may have a direct line to God through Jesus!!! God through Jesus by the Holy Spirit!!!
*Mary must be shaking her head at everyone praying to her from the presence of Jesus 🤦♀️*
And satan must be laughing at you.
Give me the verse where Mary is the intercessor😂
Honestly🤦🏻♀️ if they’d just read the bible it’s all there… JESUS IS OUR INTERCESSOR
ANYONE can be our intercessor. Intercession means to pray for someone else. So we literally ask Mary to pray for us! Stop with the nonsense.
@@exosisyphus missed the point… anyone who is ALIVE can yes pray and be an intercessor… Mary is not alive and is not our intercessor.. is my point, we should not and are told very clearly not to communicate to the dead!
@@exosisyphusbut shes dead.... she wasnt an angel or divine so how could you think shes in any position to pray or intercede for you? Thats assuming that because she was chosen to be the earthly mother to Our Savior that she holds power to do anything for you. PLUS thats not in the Bible. We can ask the Holy spirit to teach us to pray in the will of God by praying in the Spirit. ONLY through Jesus can we get to the Father anything outside of that is a sin as the Bible expressly forbids consulting mediums or souls of the dead
Mary and all the other saints are DEAD! Praying to any of them or venerating them makes you an idolaters, BREAKING the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Catholics and Anglicans are all idolaters. Their churches are full of images. Please, my brothers and sisters, Jesus says "no one comes to the Father except through me."
Praying for all those whose only interest is to someday be with God! Those that are sincerely looking for the truth. May God clear their minds and walk with them through their journey.🙏
Praying also for those whose only interest is to be right no matter what! May God humble them and open up their eyes to accept the fact that they may be or are wrong; especially in their faith.
Mary has always been their #1 objection! Mary the one God himself chose to be the mother of his divine son, Mary the one that gave her Fiat to God and carried his (and hers) son in her womb for 9 months. Mary who was with her son at all times, especially during his passion! Mary who was at the foot of the cross watching her son bleed to death! Mary whom Jesus left us all; not just John, as our mother! Does this woman who loves US so much deserve the rejection, the curses of those who are supposed to love Jesus? No one likes for their mother to be offended, what makes them think that Jesus does? May God have mercy on all those who carry so much hatred in their hearts towards the mother of his son.
Yes that is true pray for one another, intercession but for those who are alive physically not for the dead. And are we not all saints those who believe in Christ Jesus
Saints are in heaven.
Claiming sainthood before Christ crowns you as one is stealing valor.
Actually, we are told to pray for the dead and all those who are in christ are still alive even if they come to past. It's in the Bible
We are all called saints, yes. The saints we refer to when speaking of those in Heaven are the saints canonized whom we know have made it to Heaven.
For example, st carlo acutis already has 2 miracles attributed to his intercession, so he's quickly become a saint. he is the most recent canonized saint
Jesus is our intercessor as well as our mediator. Is Mary needed if this is the case. Mary isn't needed, because God is enough.
Well said sir
Amen God is enough, but God uses humans. Sharing your faith with your earthly mother doesnt take away from God just like sharing your faith with your heavenly mother doesnt take away from God
is that how you honor the woman that God honored... "not needed" i think is a very ingrateful word...
mary gave her total obedience to God when she was called for GoD's plan.. total obedience meaning she risked her life to bear the messiah and here you are
.just a man who doest not really know WHAT TOTAL OBEDIENCE TO GOD really means...
Well then I guess you don't need anyone's prayers then, do you?
@@eddardgreybeard if the saints can hear my prayers that would mean they are omnipresent, correct?
The more i listen to this channel the more i realise how far the catholic church has strayed from the faith
I love how Catholic, twisti and contort the scripture to fit their agenda. I feel bad for all of you. They have the wall pulled over your eyes. The Bible doesn’t contradict itself, but Catholicism contradict itself over and over.
Cuz they keep making stuff up every century and the majority of their doctrines were made after the 2nd century. Even Papal infallibility is a recent concept (1870). The early church was not Catholic.
Man this guy works hard to distort God's word.
cuz they can't let go of their idolatry which is a sign of demonic influence in their faith/bloodline.
My favorite part of this video is where he does not explain why Catholics feel the need to pray to Mary at all. The Lord above commands us to not pray to intercessors, but to him or his son directly.
As Catholics we venerate Mary. We do not worship her. We appeal to her through prayer to intercede on our behalf to her son. The same with the Saints, they are prayed to for help not worshipped. What a comfort to know we all have a loving mother in Mary.
But why would you pray to saints for help? Isn't jesus enough to pray for help?
You worship her.
You offer her incense, you kneel before her, you have idols (graven images) of her in places of worship, you consecrate your souls to her in prayers, you make petitionary prayers, and you SACRIFICE your time and devotion to her.
Repent.
Veneration is worship. At this point after several centuries we're just playing semantics.
@@AK0NY Look up the prayer of consecration to Mary. Catholics literally consecrate their soul and their entire being to their demoness. It’s legitimately satanism.
Just read the Bible bro. That is your interpretation of the Bible. Don’t go off your own understanding. Scripture simplifies everything.
Mary is just a woman. She sinned, Christ even said that His body is His true mother, brothers and sisters. You cannot pray to mary, she is not devine, she cannot do anything. Pray to Christ, the true salvation. May the Lord open the eyes of all Catholics✝️🙏
Mary, the unrecognized Queen of the Universe hastened to the home of Her cousin, Elizabeth, whom She knew --- by a messenger from Her Royal Consort --- to be with child. When She entered Her cousin's home, Saint Elizabeth did not know how to thank Her and, filled with humility, burst forth in the exclamation: "And whence is this to me that the Mother of My Lord should visit me?" (Luke, 1, 32).
"But how could this be?" asks a Doctor of the Church. "Did not Saint Elizabeth already know that not only Mary, but also Jesus had entered her house? Why then does she say that she is unworthy to receive the Mother and not, rather, that she is unworthy to receive the Son, Who had come to visit her? Ah, yes, it is because the Saint knew full well that when Mary comes She brings Jesus, and therefore it was sufficient to thank the Mother without naming the Son."
And so, too, when Our Lady visited this vale of tears with an assurance of salvation, She brought Salvation with Her. As formerly She had "contained Christ as manna in the ark of Her womb, and brought Him forth to be the Food and Salvation of the world".
The whole meaning of Our Lady, the whole meaning of any gesture on Her part to assure our salvation, is to be found in the thirst of the Sacred Heart for love. This is as true as the fact that a bridge derives its whole meaning from the banks which it joins. Mary has but one desire, a desire born at the foot of the Cross: to see resound from pole to pole the one cry, "Praise be to the Divine Heart of Jesus!"
Where there is Mary, there is Jesus. Mary brought the Salvation for us through her perfect resignation to God and you say she was just a woman? "For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed;"
"Whoever desires the fruit must go to the tree; whoever desires Jesus must go to Mary; and whoever finds Mary will most certainly find Jesus." -ST. ALPHONSUS
@@charbelbechara5640 No saint whoships a creation, which mary is. That is idol whorship.
@@FollowerofChrist12 Well, we don't worship Mary. Please, stop saying what your ministers have brainwashed you with and refer to the teachings of the catholic church.
Mary can’t be an intercessor cause she is dead. Therefor you can’t pray to her statue. That would be praying to an idol.
God is not the God of the dead but of the living.
Mathew 22.32
Meaning we who believe in Jesus Christ are not dead but alive because we believe in him those that don’t believe in Jesus Christ are dead spiritual speaking it has nothing to do with Mary being alive she is still in the grave waiting for the resurrection day
We don’t need an intercessor, we have the Holy Spirit. Jesus left God’s Holy Spirit in His place to dwell within the believer until His return.
Everything we need is found in His presence and within those who have accepted God’s Grace.
My question is simple. What do we need with Mary?
Salve Maria!
Jesus Died for Mary too, she to needs a savior. She was a special person. But no Man is above another. Only Jesus is all God all Man. Most high living God. And he's a Jealous God.
Not so jealous that he would damn anyone asking the saints for their prayers.
....No one is saying Mary didn't need a savior...
Also, the whole reason protestants cling to this idea is because the protestant bible is missing 7 books that have a LOT of people praying to Saints and even the dead soldiers of Christ....
No wonder Protestantism is "close" but never quite accurate.
@@Psalm22_16 No Christian prays to any Body but the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. If you do you are not a Son of the Living God. You are the son of your father the Devil
@@patricksalazar687
*No Christian prays to any Body but the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.*
Feel free to elaborate on what "pray to" means.
If it means "worship," then you need to cease the straw manning, because no catholic worships the saints.
It would be idolatry.
@@eddardgreybeard Before this goes any further. Do you even know what the difference between a "Roman Catholic" and a "Catholic" is.
We honour Mary because she's the mother of Jesus. We pray for her intercession.
Oh blessed lady spread the effect of grace of thy flame of love over all of humanity