I like playing Sniper Zero and I love Jacobs snipers. Something about one shot one kill seems so satisfying. In Borderlands 1 Marcus had a saying: "If you took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jacobs". I'll tell you that's for the most part true.
I've always found it awkward trying to switch from a blue quality Jakobs to a purple quality one. Since blues are always bolt action with slower fire rate but enormous power. Whereas the purples have faster fire rate with less damage than the blues. I always found it weird and never knew when it was worth replacing the blue.
Personally, I can't stand anything made by Tediore. All the years of playing shooters have conditioned me to become a lean, mean, obsessive-compulsive reloading machine.
Munira Gheewala Playing as Gaige gives you access to the ability Anarchy. Anarchy increases damage 1.75% and decreases accuracy 1.75% per stack of anarchy you have. You collect stacks by killing enemies, and reloading with 0 in the clip during battle. If you reload with more than 0 in the clip, you lose all stacks of Anarchy. You can get a skill called Discord, so instead of losing all stacks instantly, they slowly drain and give you a slight stat boost until you reload with more than 0 once again.
recently got back into it got zer0 to lv80 op4 and krieg to 72 according to steam ive played about 9 hours a day for 2 weeks and ive learnt weapon parts and i use calculators to figure out if something with better fire rate has more dps and basically Im way too deep now
Sawyer Weathers eh borderlands 3 is probably the funnest game to play out of the 3 but it’s also really cringy if you were to actually watch the cutscenes and the dlcs are pretty fun, that being said it definitely has the worst story, writing and characters. That’s just my opinion and your entitled to yours
Tediore : for those who are obsessed of reloading after shooting 1 shot Vladof: for the russian experience Bandit : for those who like to keep shooting and not reloading Hyperion: for those who are obsessed with handsome jacks products Maliwan: you like to choose the proper weapons for a fight Jakobs: its high noon Dahl : you like burst sniper rifles Torgue : you like to blow up the ocean
i didn't realize you threw away the remainder of your clip when you reload those exploding guns, so i kept firing 1 or 2 shots and throwing it at enemies. i was wondering why i'm always so low on ammo with them until i finally figured it out.
Ahem. In Borderlands 3, Maliwan keeps getting in your way. But I guess you already know that. Oh yeah, they also murdered civilians on Promethea without hesitation.
I have to disagree with the assessment of Hyperion sniper rifles, because the way you described them isn't actually how they work. Rather than inverse recoil, Hyperion sniper rifles apply the effect to the sway when scoped, so if you WAIT a few seconds before firing your shot, it's almost guaranteed to go exactly where you aim it. This makes them extremely effective for picking off enemies one by one at long range, but I will say that at medium range you're better off with a Jakobs, Maliwan, or Vladof depending on the situation.
@@Iveno-Von-Aethervein You're not really supposed to use sniper rifles in the heat of a firefight though, you open the engagement at range with them by picking off high value targets first. Granted, I will say that the meta for high level play in BL2 discourages the use of sniper rifles as direct damage dealers other than ones from Vladof or Dahl (which you can basically use as giant assault rifles). That's more the result of the higher difficulties being deliberately imbalanced in such a way that you need every bit of extra DPS you can get because you're so fragile and can't take any hits than anything else though.
Assault Rifles in general DO suck badly, Trail, due to the Assault Rifle class, for most of their weapons, having the lowest DPS of all weapon classes, especially due to their critical penalty making them the worst weapons in the game for critical hits. There are a few that work really well, like Elemental Vladof Assault Rifles, but the majority of them are quite poor choices late game.
Assault Rifles aren't the best weapon class in the entire game, but I feel like you're forgetting plenty of good ARs. Torgue Spitters are the best non-unique ARs for Axton, Krieg and Salvador while Jakobs Gatling Guns are the best non-unique ARs for Zer0 and Maya. Jakobs ARs don't even have crit penalty, and Torgue ARs don't need to crit to deal good damage. Plus, there are a good chunk of red-text ARs out there. Both Torgue Spitters and Jakobs Gatling Guns with perfect parts outperform both Torgue Pistols and Jakobs Revolvers with perfect parts.
There ARE good AR's, but almost all AR's are bad, is the problem. Jakob's doesn't matter because, well, it's Jakobs, as a manufacturer they all do that, it's the class that sucks. Plus Jakobs causes my fingers to become fatigued so that sucks. Torgue AR's are next to impossible to hit anything beyond close range due to their gyrojet shots. The best AR I manage to get my hands on are elemental Vladof AR's for spraying lots of effects everywhere.
You're missing an important detail and a reason I love Hyperion snipers: their negative recoil kicks in by scoping in for a moment. If you just scope in for a second or so then you have maximum accuracy and because of the way they work you now have effectively zero recoil, meaning it's now super easy to go on headshot sprees and clear out an entire room without waiting on your gun
There are three elemental jakobs guns: Twister (Shock, shotgun), Stinkpot (Corrosive, Assault Rifle) and the Greed (Fire, Pistol). All non-unique jakobs weapons come without an element.
Personal list: 1. Hyperion - for smgs and shotguns and sometimes pistols. 2. Jakobs - mostly for pistols 3. Maliwan - snipers and smgs. 4. Torgue - usually pistols 5. Dhal - whatever's good 6. Vladof - don't use much. 7. Tediore - don't use much. 8. Bandit - usually only shotguns or launchers.
Maliwan: high elemental damage/chance Jakobs: high damage, crit damage and good fire rate Hyperion: high accuracy Torgue: EXPLOSIONS tediore: YEET vladof: high fire rate Bandit: high ammo capacity Dahl: burst fire when aiming In my opinion Best: jakobs and Hyperion Worst: bandit
As an Anarchist Gaige player: Jacobs: the ultradamage is epic when you manage to hit the crits Vladof: shoot your whole backpack to send enemies to the grave and you to the ammo vending machine Tediore: Don't accidentally reload, don't accidentally reload! Dalh: I've missed my burst again Maliwan: While you miss they get cooked, awersome synergy Torgue: No bullet... no ricochet...? Bandit: I wonder how many extra stacks I would have if was reloading more often Hyperion: *pukes on the keyboard due to motion sickness*
I love the different gun manufacturers for different gun types. I love jakobs for their pistols, where they have instant fire upon click (for pc), but the bolt-action snipers they make take way too long to reload, at the cost of pretty high damage.
Swiv Mustang wow can you believe this guy I still like vinyl Puma as a TH-camr because Borderlands is one of my favorite games ever made but I still have to not give him credit for this video because I tweeted at him asking him to make a video on the best manufacturer and doesn't even shout-out my Twitter for asking him that question, he even tweeted back saying "no guarantees but I'll see" know that I still like this Channel just that he doesn't remember but hopefully he does.by the by vinylic Puma I would like to have my Twitter handle in the description or at least that you said hey guys I did not I did not get this idea by myself I got the idea form a question on Twitter here's the guy if you would like to follow him but no I hope you read this by the by you're welcome for the video idea.
I find Jakobs Assault Rifles to be less Assault and more Rifle, if anything. Underwhelming on DPS, but great for controlling your aim. Kind of like Hyperion's reverse-recoil and Dahl's scoped-burst-fire, Jakobs Assault Rifles should be treated with a different mindset (think of treating them like Sniper Rifles with less effective range and more carried and/or loaded Ammo). I lucked into a Hammer Buster from a random Loot Midget that carried my Axton file for most of the mid-to-late story (and greatly trained my shot timing for Critical Hit spots).
Jakobs grenade launchers, out of all the grenade launchers in the game, are probably the best too, all things considered for a generally underused projectile class. The grenades fire reaaaally fast.
@@bonogiamboni4830 Yep, except neither Vladoff nor Bandit, because they produce rocket launcher rifles, not grenade rifles. Jakobs and Dahl make grenade rifles.
My personal favorites are Maliwan and Jakob's, Maliwan has great damage potential and also the DOT effects from them can actually be useful for regenerating. While Jakob's just has an absurd amount of damage potential.
I know this is an older (based on perspective) video, but I've seen a number of your videos, and I appreciate the content you produce. I've loved this game for a long time, but for reasons, haven't been able to play it as much. I'm restarting for the umpteenth time in normal mode, and as someone who has played the game enough to know, but not been able to progress to the OP levels, I want to thank you for your help. I appreciate your style of delivery, your inclusive range of subjects (for all levels), your professional disposition, and your content as a whole, as I have experienced it. I would like to thank you, and wish you much success in your future endeavors. :)
My personal list is Maliwan Hyperion Vladof Tediore Jakob's Dahl Tourge Bandit I think bandit and Jakob's are my favorite but it just feels like they are underwhelming and inconsistent with their non uniques. Maliwan is my #1 for the sole reason of moxxi. End game bl2 almost requires a grog or some kind of moxxi weapon and all though there are some from other manufactures maliwan just seems to have the best, along with the God teir norfleet and fotfh and antagonist shields maliwan just feels so great. I also feel like tediore shouldn't even be compared to the rest of the guns due to being more like explosive tomahawks than guns and can either be op on axton or kreig or a boat load of ass like a gaige
Hyperion is a good choice. I might choose Maliwan because of their pistols and sniper rifles. Funny thing is is that I don't look for Hyperion parts on my weapons.
There isn't such thing like best and worst manufacturer. Every single manufacturer has its own pluses and minuses. Every manufacturer has its own special items which makes them worth using. Also sometimes is better to mix parts on certain weapons or items to have better results than matching parts to manufacturer.
(I'm talking about none uniques) Hyperion makes shitty sniper rifles and average smgs. From Torgue outside of maybe ravagers, few ar's and maybe injectors everything is just mediocre or even bad. The same goes to Tediore, Maliwan and Vladof.
Bandit sucks, Hyperion sucks, Torgue sucks, Maliwan sucks, everything sucks if you don't use it how it should be used and not in proper build. All depends what weapon you use, against who and in which build.
Maliwan Needs To Be On the list to, but I agree hyperion and vladolf are amazing. (Norfleet, magic missle, grognozzle, chain lightning, rubi, volcano, hellfire, amd more
As a semi casual player who's played through the game countless times, my personal tier list is 1. Jacob's, very powerful and reliable for fight for your life. My personal favorite and I think you should always take any quality gun (excluding ARs, as they can be lackluster at times.) 2.hyperion, good chip damage and very accurate, nice side arm for sniping or good sniping 3.Torgue, once again good for fight for your life, and while I personally hate using explosive weapons, their power is undeniable 4.maliwan,these guns are best used for utility. If it's not a launcher or SMG, I would recommend staying away unless it's extremely good. 5.Tediore, these guns are solid in the early game, but they tend to be underwhelming late game. From personal experience, if it's not a shotgun or a quality launcher, it's not worth it. 6. Bandit/scav, I personally love these guns early game,but like tourge, I wont deny they suck, as their only real highlights are high ammo cap pistols.Shotguns, and launchers. The ARs are quite the tradeoff, as they dont tend to do enough damage,have horrible accuracy,and bad reload speed. 7.Vladof,this is ranked low only because of my inexperience with the guns, and I will say I have a love for their smgs, and only their smgs. 8.Dahl, I hate the burst fire function, especially with ars and snipers. Their weapons either dont do enough damage or do too much and the burst is uneeded. I probably missed one, but I will update until I'm sure
tediore guns to me have the opposite effect of what you stated. for example, I had to use my throw reload 3 times to kill a killer marauder in early game, but tossed my SMG once and killed a treant (granted the treant was slagged and I had a bee shield)
My favourite is probably Maliwan. Apart from the weapons you listed, they also made the magnificient Magic Missile grenade mod. Their weapons look fantastic, their sniper scopes are the best and the "Snider" Rifles are so much fun to use
I do find that torgues weapons are pretty good at early levels, when you don't get many legendary or elemental weapons - they can deal decently high damage and when you don't have better elemental they're pretty solid. That said, they are outdone in late game by many weapons, and don't last very long in early leveling.
I don't like Hyperion, their snipers are horrible, their pistols are mediocre at best, their shields are bad. The only exceptional thing about them are shotguns. For me Jakobs is the thing, they're very reliable, have good damage and you don't need to worry about matching elements.
How is the Deliverance a bad weapon? I think it's awesome! A shotgun, that when thrown, seeks out enemies and constantly shoots a bottomless magazine until it detonates? Yes please!
The Thre Dog is the only Bandit weapon I've ever used for a decent period of time. It was a lifesaver early on in Frostburn Canyon with several characters.
I find that Dahl is my favorite weapons manufacturer. I really like the low recoil with the burst fire it's really good for accuracy. However as for their snipers it's kinda difficult for me to decide if I like it or hate it. I like the burst fire rate because I like being versatility. I'm able to snipe at a distance, while if an enemy is running towards me, I'm able to take it out as well. This is my opinion of course, and I always play as Zer0 or as Mordecai. In other words I usually play as a sniper class. My favorite sniper rifle from BorderLands 2 is the Night Terror. I find it does the damage that I want and has great accuracy. I prefer it as a corrosive element because it's easy to take out Loaders and Buzzards with it.
I'm a big Krieg player, so my personal bests pretty much have to be Maliwan and Torgue. Least favorite is obviously Jakobs since there are very few elemental Jakobs weapons. From an objective standpoint I would say that in a group scenario as I usually play, Jakobs is still my least favorite, with Bandit beating it out for one gun variety in particular: the Bandit slag SMG. Jakobs single action on basically everything tends to annoy me personally and I am rarely the sniper in my friends group. Meanwhile the Bandit slag SMGs with decent parts provides very consistent slagging for massively extended periods of time due to the mag size. Vladof actually takes my top spot for personal enjoyment because of the bane of everyone's existence, that being spiniguns. Nothing to me feels better than walking into a fight and watching the barrel spin up before throwing a veritable torrent of lead at whatever happens to be in front of me. Are they better than other barrel types? Nope, but they're fun. I also really enjoy the Anarchist pistol.
i agree that bandit weapons usually get surpassed by just about everything with notable exceptions such as the the slagga or the tattler but for the best manufacturer i would personally say maliwan as they can deal some insane damage over time especially a snider
For me it’d have to be 1. Vladof 2. Dahl 3. Torgue 4. Hyperion 5. Maliwan 6.Jakobs 7. Bandit 8. Tediore I can’t recall a time where I used a Tediore weapon because I liked it ever. I love Hyperion Shotguns. I love Vladof snipers. I love Dahl Pistols and SMG’s. I love Torgue AR’s. I love Dahl simply for the accuracy and being able to get like 3-4 headshots in less than a second with a burst. I don’t like the long reloads for Jakobs and the non-elemental. I don’t like trying to wrestle with Jakobs recoil either. Bandit sucks because I don’t need the massive magazine. It’s not hard to find cover to reload for a second, and considering how bad it’s weapons are because of the mag size, you might not kill all of the enemies before needing a long ass 5 second reload anyhow.
while i think dahl is a fine weapons maker for the most part, i cannot stand dahl snipers, such a waste of ammo when they kill an enemy before the burst finishes
To be honest every manufacture is great on each weapon even though they have flaws. Honestly it's hard for me to picking one cause they all have uses in some ways. Favorite: Vladof, really like fast fire rate on weapon's. Best: Maliwan, with the gun elements you are unstoppable examples like the Norfleet. Worst: Bandit, although their rocket launchers are great the others are kind of point less in capacity.
the actualizer is actually really good against larger enemies like terra, crawmerax jr, tinder snowflake, the pumpkin kingpin, voracidous, vermiverous, saturn, bunker, and the warrior. it just isnt the best on smaller enemies or getting crits. also the torgue ogre is really good as well
one thing i like about the explosive handguns is that once ur adjusted and u know u cant fire 'straight lines' at enemies more than 50ft away u can predict the 'arc of the bullet fired and ive had some cool blind kills hitting headshots but 'lobbing/arcing' an explosive pistol round over their cover etc
If you can find a way, either through skills or relics, to lessen the downsides of bandit weapons they can actually be pretty good. Most of them have +damage for a lot of their parts. Axton is really good with them. Might do a bandit run with him.
I've only used it in the community balance patch but the Storm from Maliwan is a gun I used for almost 20 levels before replacing it. It seemed to be very overpower on my Gaige.
I love the Hyperion shotguns especially with SLAG and using Salvador with a high fire rate SMG is quite something to try out if you wanna see alot of damage . I hate Torgue weapons I absolutely never use them unless I get 1 from right at the start of a new character . Great video even though years ahead now I still love watching old BL2 videos and I still love playing BL2 who's here in 2022 ?
Best manufacturer in the series was SnS. This is back when manufacturers weren't almost exclusive in their niche as manufacturers, but they seemed to actually have the most going for them. They had an INCREDIBLY large ammo capacity, and some of their guns rivaled even Jakobs or torgue. It was honestly almost OP if it wasn't for the fact they had the slowest reloads (which even isn't the case when it came.to their pistols!)
High firerate Dahl weapons are always worth a try, sometimes they have almost zero delay between bursts-you can get relics that reduce the delays even more if you really wanted. I used to hate Dahl weapons, but on my most recent playthrough I've been giving them more of a chance and actually if the rate of fire is more than 8 and the stats look good, it is definitely worth testing, sometimes they almost function like full autos
Best: Maliwan Worst: Torgue Maliwan weapons are all really accurate and elemental while still looking awesome while Torgue weapons are inaccurate and only explode and look like giant warning signs or weapons that look like they're used by nuclear test dummies
so i was messing with the save game editor and made a pistol . it had unlimited ammo and never needed to be reloaded but the barrel would spin so the gun spray was circular and very random. i would scope in aiming at the head and just see all the bullets making a circle around the head.
I find Tediore exploding weapons reloads pretty helpful when tyring to maintain high anarchy stacks with Gaige. Specially if I want to use a rocket launcher. Even if the -1000% accuracy shoots a rocket at my feet and kills me, at least the rocket launcher, well, rocker launches at the center of the screen.
sadly anarchy gaige kinda ruins the fun of tediores, as there's nothing more fun then shooting one bullet and yeeting your SMG at a rakk 100 feet in the sky
I thought Hyperion snipers got more accurate as you stayed zoomed as well. I could be wrong about this, but I thought I remembered that being the case.
Finally im not the only one, sure you could argue that the others have "better" stats but ill take a Bandit Shotgun over a Tediore one just to hear that awesome bang sound.
What's that assault rifle in your right hand during the part where you talk about Bandit is the worst I don't know all the weapons in Borderlands I was just interested
how can you tell from 'E-Tech' to normal manufacturers since i picked up some weapons with different manufacturers and i didnt know some of them are 'E-tech' worst manufacturers.
i enjoy the unique bandit shotgun variants, there this one its from the captain scarlet which has a 80% crit increase which is good for slagged goliaths, from perspective of normal and tvhm, e-tech bandits shotguns are bit underwhelming
I like playing Sniper Zero and I love Jacobs snipers. Something about one shot one kill seems so satisfying. In Borderlands 1 Marcus had a saying: "If you took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jacobs". I'll tell you that's for the most part true.
@Robert Conner lol same
I've always found it awkward trying to switch from a blue quality Jakobs to a purple quality one. Since blues are always bolt action with slower fire rate but enormous power. Whereas the purples have faster fire rate with less damage than the blues. I always found it weird and never knew when it was worth replacing the blue.
@@TsarDragon usually no, in that case. Purple Maliwan or Hyperion SMGs are beastly though.
@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen You know I'm speaking explicitly about Jakobs snipers right?
Your picture is making me hungry
jakobs
non elemental
*uses elemental jakobs unique shotgun*
sin attics XD
sin attics he said usually tho
sin attics "99% of the time"
scopeez lol
Gregory Kaelin M.
Personally, I can't stand anything made by Tediore. All the years of playing shooters have conditioned me to become a lean, mean, obsessive-compulsive reloading machine.
Kenji1801 rong
Kenji1801
Go play as Gaige, it'll fix you real quick.
you are exactly like me
what do you mean +night flower?
Munira Gheewala
Playing as Gaige gives you access to the ability Anarchy.
Anarchy increases damage 1.75% and decreases accuracy 1.75% per stack of anarchy you have.
You collect stacks by killing enemies, and reloading with 0 in the clip during battle.
If you reload with more than 0 in the clip, you lose all stacks of Anarchy.
You can get a skill called Discord, so instead of losing all stacks instantly, they slowly drain and give you a slight stat boost until you reload with more than 0 once again.
The best manufacturer can be summed up by one question and one question only.
EXPLOSIONS?!
Jorge Fierro maliwan doesnt maek explosive
@@Giga_Dad "If it didn't die in one shot, you weren't using a Jakobs!"
Jorge Fierro dang the one element I always forget about
TORGUEEEE!
Yeah, I know, that Scav is the best Borderlands 2 manufacturer...
It's good to see that people still play bl2 like it came out yesterday
charlie leedy I reinstalled it and I’m a borderlands no life now that i remember how fun it was
recently got back into it got zer0 to lv80 op4 and krieg to 72
according to steam ive played about 9 hours a day for 2 weeks and ive learnt weapon parts and i use calculators to figure out if something with better fire rate has more dps and basically Im way too deep now
Gamer Life God this really didn’t age well
Sawyer Weathers eh borderlands 3 is probably the funnest game to play out of the 3 but it’s also really cringy if you were to actually watch the cutscenes and the dlcs are pretty fun, that being said it definitely has the worst story, writing and characters. That’s just my opinion and your entitled to yours
Caden Clark I agree. The game was fun but it’s WAY too easy to get legendaries so that ruins it for me
Tediore : for those who are obsessed of reloading after shooting 1 shot
Vladof: for the russian experience
Bandit : for those who like to keep shooting and not reloading
Hyperion: for those who are obsessed with handsome jacks products
Maliwan: you like to choose the proper weapons for a fight
Jakobs: its high noon
Dahl : you like burst sniper rifles
Torgue : you like to blow up the ocean
willow815 its high noon pal.
i didn't realize you threw away the remainder of your clip when you reload those exploding guns, so i kept firing 1 or 2 shots and throwing it at enemies. i was wondering why i'm always so low on ammo with them until i finally figured it out.
Jakobs for zer0
Maliwan for maya
tediore and dahl for axton
vladof for salvatore
bandit for gaige
torgue for krieg
in my opinion those are best ofc u can use any manufacturer with any character
I don’t like Hyperion weapons because by the time it stabilizes, the clip is gone a second later
Infinity pistol: I have infinite ammo!
Tediore: Oh yea? We got infinite GUNS!
Infinity Pistol: and no Ammo
Dahl Rifels: WACK
Jackobs Rifels: WACK
Bandit Pistols: WACK
Tourge Snipers: Hopefully in BL3
and Vladof SMGs
Vladof shotguns
Dahl shotguns
Torgue SMGs
Maliwan shotguns
Bandit sniper rifles
Jakobs rocket launchers
Torgue snipers, confirmed.
Torgue is a spray and pray weapon type meaning accuracy and fast projectiles ain't their thing
@@tonyforshyr9381 ya javelin throw that shit instead
My favorite would have to be Maliwan, their SMGs and Snipers make the game for me.
JAYDOG1337A sexy guns too.
WTF? How can a gun be sexy? *looks at miss moxxi weapon* never mind, I understand
Haha
JAYDOG1337A what class
JAYDOG1337A what class
r u
you useing im useing gunzerker😎😎😀☺😴
you wanted to say how shitty bolt action snipers from jakobs are. i heard the hesitation
Randy Bobby I like using them
Skelok same
Yes but Puma hates them
They are quite amazing with the community patch though. They managed to make the slow RoF worth it dmgwise.
Bolt action snipers feels so, satisfying
Maliwan is personally one brand I love, sleek looking, good damage, and just an overall great brand.
They don't even seem like an evil corporation like Dahl or Hyperion.
Ahem. In Borderlands 3, Maliwan keeps getting in your way. But I guess you already know that. Oh yeah, they also murdered civilians on Promethea without hesitation.
I have to disagree with the assessment of Hyperion sniper rifles, because the way you described them isn't actually how they work. Rather than inverse recoil, Hyperion sniper rifles apply the effect to the sway when scoped, so if you WAIT a few seconds before firing your shot, it's almost guaranteed to go exactly where you aim it. This makes them extremely effective for picking off enemies one by one at long range, but I will say that at medium range you're better off with a Jakobs, Maliwan, or Vladof depending on the situation.
So... WoT aiming mechanics?
a second or more is the difference between getting the kill and being the kill.
@@Iveno-Von-Aethervein You're not really supposed to use sniper rifles in the heat of a firefight though, you open the engagement at range with them by picking off high value targets first. Granted, I will say that the meta for high level play in BL2 discourages the use of sniper rifles as direct damage dealers other than ones from Vladof or Dahl (which you can basically use as giant assault rifles). That's more the result of the higher difficulties being deliberately imbalanced in such a way that you need every bit of extra DPS you can get because you're so fragile and can't take any hits than anything else though.
@@z3r0_35 so you admit it's only good for normal mode and below.
@@Iveno-Von-Aethervein that applies to sniping with most non ledgendary or non unique guns
I love vladof assault rifles, but assault rifles kinda suck sadly.
Green Mann Try a Kitten on Anarchy Mechromancer. That's one powerful AR
Assault rifles don't "suck badly".
Assault Rifles in general DO suck badly, Trail, due to the Assault Rifle class, for most of their weapons, having the lowest DPS of all weapon classes, especially due to their critical penalty making them the worst weapons in the game for critical hits.
There are a few that work really well, like Elemental Vladof Assault Rifles, but the majority of them are quite poor choices late game.
Assault Rifles aren't the best weapon class in the entire game, but I feel like you're forgetting plenty of good ARs. Torgue Spitters are the best non-unique ARs for Axton, Krieg and Salvador while Jakobs Gatling Guns are the best non-unique ARs for Zer0 and Maya. Jakobs ARs don't even have crit penalty, and Torgue ARs don't need to crit to deal good damage. Plus, there are a good chunk of red-text ARs out there. Both Torgue Spitters and Jakobs Gatling Guns with perfect parts outperform both Torgue Pistols and Jakobs Revolvers with perfect parts.
There ARE good AR's, but almost all AR's are bad, is the problem.
Jakob's doesn't matter because, well, it's Jakobs, as a manufacturer they all do that, it's the class that sucks. Plus Jakobs causes my fingers to become fatigued so that sucks.
Torgue AR's are next to impossible to hit anything beyond close range due to their gyrojet shots.
The best AR I manage to get my hands on are elemental Vladof AR's for spraying lots of effects everywhere.
Just give me a Jakob's revolver and I'll be fine
Facts
You are a true man, bud
A Jacob's revolver
A vladof spinigun
A Dahl sniper
And A Hyperion shotgun
Good for dismantling pesky loader bots
@@RukaGoldheart a dahl sniper? Really?
The best thing in puma videos...
I don't understand anything but goddamn are they enjoyable
Me to
What a boatload of ASS
Aggreed hell I don't know half of the stuff that he covers and I have beat the game 4 times!?
My man
8:20 the guy was flying LOL
Fucking hilarious isn't it
Zander Bischoff he glitched
Random Internet Person no shit
No shit
I thought he was digging to the center of earth
WHEN YOU EXPLAIN TORGUE WEAPONS YOU SHOULD BE SHOUTING! Anyway my favourite type in general is Vladof.
Comrades
INDEED! I KNOW I'M LATE BUT F*CK THAT SH*T
You're missing an important detail and a reason I love Hyperion snipers: their negative recoil kicks in by scoping in for a moment. If you just scope in for a second or so then you have maximum accuracy and because of the way they work you now have effectively zero recoil, meaning it's now super easy to go on headshot sprees and clear out an entire room without waiting on your gun
Yeah but recoil is pretty easy to control tho and would be more of an issue on jakobs snipers.
*Says Jacobs doesn't make elemental weapons 99% of the time. In video, switches to an elemental Jacobs shotgun*.
Tardis Lord maybe it's why he said 99% of the time
Cuboidal Cake well he didn't say 100% and I'm fairly certain he was speaking metaphorically
There are three elemental jakobs guns: Twister (Shock, shotgun), Stinkpot (Corrosive, Assault Rifle) and the Greed (Fire, Pistol). All non-unique jakobs weapons come without an element.
Ele and cobra
I can only name 3 in BL2, the Greed, the Twister, and the Stinkpot
Personal list:
1. Hyperion - for smgs and shotguns and sometimes pistols.
2. Jakobs - mostly for pistols
3. Maliwan - snipers and smgs.
4. Torgue - usually pistols
5. Dhal - whatever's good
6. Vladof - don't use much.
7. Tediore - don't use much.
8. Bandit - usually only shotguns or launchers.
MZslayer11 maliwan is my personal favorite by far
Jakobs makes good everything, Torgue makes good Shotguns and Assault rifles, Vladof makes good everything and Bandit makes good SMGs.
The best in my opinion is Maliwan
Sarcastrophe they're amazing, I love them, but you need to have the right one for the fight.
Maliwan: high elemental damage/chance
Jakobs: high damage, crit damage and good fire rate
Hyperion: high accuracy
Torgue: EXPLOSIONS
tediore: YEET
vladof: high fire rate
Bandit: high ammo capacity
Dahl: burst fire when aiming
In my opinion
Best: jakobs and Hyperion
Worst: bandit
Anonymous person Jakobs has ass fire rate
@@beastwarriorkingoverlord but they are really good on damage
i still fuckin hate jakobs
the only good things jakobs makes is shotguns and the bekah anything else is shitty in uvhm
@@beastwarriorkingoverlord EVERYTHING IS SHITTY IN UVHM!
You wanna know the best manufacture is in the game il give you a hint
EXPLOSIVE SHOTGUNS (badass guitar)
Titan filmz *EXPLOSION NOISE*
Titan_filmz69 ravager ftw
Titan_filmz69 FLAKKER FOR LIFE
TORGUE!!!! TRUE BADASSITUDE!!!!!
TORGUE SUCKS LOL EXCEPT FOR HAROLD
As an Anarchist Gaige player:
Jacobs: the ultradamage is epic when you manage to hit the crits
Vladof: shoot your whole backpack to send enemies to the grave and you to the ammo vending machine
Tediore: Don't accidentally reload, don't accidentally reload!
Dalh: I've missed my burst again
Maliwan: While you miss they get cooked, awersome synergy
Torgue: No bullet... no ricochet...?
Bandit: I wonder how many extra stacks I would have if was reloading more often
Hyperion: *pukes on the keyboard due to motion sickness*
Jakobs shotguns have low ammo, so they're great for Anarchy building.
Torgue shotguns are the best. The explosive shotguns are amazing
The ones that eat 3 ammo per shot make for a great substitute for a rocket launcher when you're at short range.
I love the different gun manufacturers for different gun types. I love jakobs for their pistols, where they have instant fire upon click (for pc), but the bolt-action snipers they make take way too long to reload, at the cost of pretty high damage.
Do the top fun weapons in BL2.
it alreadt been done
He did it allready xD (Top 10 Most Funnest and Coolest Guns and Weapons To Shoot or Use in Borderlands 2 #PumaCounts)
okay, my bad im a little new to his channel.
CFA44 ACE PILOT Trust me its going to take a while seeing over 100 videos of Borderlands list and more.
keynan martinez uh ignore that I thought someone else replied weird I got notified for you when I have no replies with u
top 10 doors please
Yeah. I need to know which door is most pleasant to look at, and which door has the best graphics.
top 10 chairs, of the ceiling variety
Top 10 walls
Keep up the good content Puma! I love Borderlands and you consistently push out videos for it. Thanks man!
Swiv Mustang wow can you believe this guy I still like vinyl Puma as a TH-camr because Borderlands is one of my favorite games ever made but I still have to not give him credit for this video because I tweeted at him asking him to make a video on the best manufacturer and doesn't even shout-out my Twitter for asking him that question, he even tweeted back saying "no guarantees but I'll see" know that I still like this Channel just that he doesn't remember but hopefully he does.by the by vinylic Puma I would like to have my Twitter handle in the description or at least that you said hey guys I did not I did not get this idea by myself I got the idea form a question on Twitter here's the guy if you would like to follow him but no I hope you read this by the by you're welcome for the video idea.
heartbreaker if you think you deserve a shoutout by giving a suggestion you are severely deluded
@@dedigiklasmhdkapteynweg6574 Very deluded
I find Jakobs Assault Rifles to be less Assault and more Rifle, if anything. Underwhelming on DPS, but great for controlling your aim. Kind of like Hyperion's reverse-recoil and Dahl's scoped-burst-fire, Jakobs Assault Rifles should be treated with a different mindset (think of treating them like Sniper Rifles with less effective range and more carried and/or loaded Ammo). I lucked into a Hammer Buster from a random Loot Midget that carried my Axton file for most of the mid-to-late story (and greatly trained my shot timing for Critical Hit spots).
Get a jakobs assault rifle with a vladof minigun barrel. Good DPS right there.
Jakobs grenade launchers, out of all the grenade launchers in the game, are probably the best too, all things considered for a generally underused projectile class. The grenades fire reaaaally fast.
@@Yawyna124 grenade launchers? You mean like those vladoff and bandit rifles that use 3 ammo per shot to fire explosives?
@@bonogiamboni4830 Yep, except neither Vladoff nor Bandit, because they produce rocket launcher rifles, not grenade rifles. Jakobs and Dahl make grenade rifles.
@@Yawyna124 huh. Well that's weird, either i somehow never ever found one in my 150+hours of playtime or i got mistaken with something else.
My personal favorites are Maliwan and Jakob's, Maliwan has great damage potential and also the DOT effects from them can actually be useful for regenerating. While Jakob's just has an absurd amount of damage potential.
I know this is an older (based on perspective) video, but I've seen a number of your videos, and I appreciate the content you produce. I've loved this game for a long time, but for reasons, haven't been able to play it as much. I'm restarting for the umpteenth time in normal mode, and as someone who has played the game enough to know, but not been able to progress to the OP levels, I want to thank you for your help. I appreciate your style of delivery, your inclusive range of subjects (for all levels), your professional disposition, and your content as a whole, as I have experienced it. I would like to thank you, and wish you much success in your future endeavors. :)
Hopefully S&S Munitions makes a comeback in BL3! Also, bring back the Glorious Havocs!
SnS was pretty lame actually...they were basically Bandit for BL1.
juncho1977 s and s and atles are my fav
springy 22 Hell yeah, I loved their sniper rifles! High accuracy, huge magazines, and fairly decent damage.
juncho1977 Gearbox needs to bring back my liquid Orion. That thing was so fun use. So powerful and so satisfying.
juncho1977 i miss the Glorious Havocs, those were my favourite combat rifles
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My personal list is
Maliwan
Hyperion
Vladof
Tediore
Jakob's
Dahl
Tourge
Bandit
I think bandit and Jakob's are my favorite but it just feels like they are underwhelming and inconsistent with their non uniques. Maliwan is my #1 for the sole reason of moxxi. End game bl2 almost requires a grog or some kind of moxxi weapon and all though there are some from other manufactures maliwan just seems to have the best, along with the God teir norfleet and fotfh and antagonist shields maliwan just feels so great. I also feel like tediore shouldn't even be compared to the rest of the guns due to being more like explosive tomahawks than guns and can either be op on axton or kreig or a boat load of ass like a gaige
Best Non-Uniques (BNU)
Pistol : Maliwan Animosity
SMG : Hyperion Plasma Caster
AR : Jakobs Gatling Gun
Shotgun : Torgue Ravager
Sniper Rifle : Jakobs Diaub
Rocket Launcher : Maliwan PBFG
(It's just my opinion)
Hyperion is a good choice. I might choose Maliwan because of their pistols and sniper rifles. Funny thing is is that I don't look for Hyperion parts on my weapons.
doctorprofessor star Maliwan pistols are pretty crap. They make better SMG's and sniper rifles
Hyperion IMO makes better SMGs. Maliwan makes better sniper rifles for damn sure tho.
There isn't such thing like best and worst manufacturer. Every single manufacturer has its own pluses and minuses. Every manufacturer has its own special items which makes them worth using. Also sometimes is better to mix parts on certain weapons or items to have better results than matching parts to manufacturer.
bew_ no bandit definitely sucks while they have some good guns the majority just sucks ass
bew_ I agree, some suck or not but it depends on what weapons you use.
(I'm talking about none uniques)
Hyperion makes shitty sniper rifles and average smgs. From Torgue outside of maybe ravagers, few ar's and maybe injectors everything is just mediocre or even bad. The same goes to Tediore, Maliwan and Vladof.
If everything is crap then nothing is crap.
Bandit sucks, Hyperion sucks, Torgue sucks, Maliwan sucks, everything sucks if you don't use it how it should be used and not in proper build. All depends what weapon you use, against who and in which build.
Maliwan Needs To Be On the list to, but I agree hyperion and vladolf are amazing. (Norfleet, magic missle, grognozzle, chain lightning, rubi, volcano, hellfire, amd more
Wilhelm TheBleachGod maliwan is on the list
No he means to be on the it's the best list. And I agree
The Conference call. The weapon that made me love non-elemental weapons. Also, the only reliable shotgun to snipe with.
I do. But I found the non-elemental first. That and the Bee-Shield was waaaaay too fun.
As a semi casual player who's played through the game countless times, my personal tier list is
1. Jacob's, very powerful and reliable for fight for your life. My personal favorite and I think you should always take any quality gun (excluding ARs, as they can be lackluster at times.)
2.hyperion, good chip damage and very accurate, nice side arm for sniping or good sniping
3.Torgue, once again good for fight for your life, and while I personally hate using explosive weapons, their power is undeniable
4.maliwan,these guns are best used for utility. If it's not a launcher or SMG, I would recommend staying away unless it's extremely good.
5.Tediore, these guns are solid in the early game, but they tend to be underwhelming late game. From personal experience, if it's not a shotgun or a quality launcher, it's not worth it.
6. Bandit/scav, I personally love these guns early game,but like tourge, I wont deny they suck, as their only real highlights are high ammo cap pistols.Shotguns, and launchers. The ARs are quite the tradeoff, as they dont tend to do enough damage,have horrible accuracy,and bad reload speed.
7.Vladof,this is ranked low only because of my inexperience with the guns, and I will say I have a love for their smgs, and only their smgs.
8.Dahl, I hate the burst fire function, especially with ars and snipers. Their weapons either dont do enough damage or do too much and the burst is uneeded.
I probably missed one, but I will update until I'm sure
tediore guns to me have the opposite effect of what you stated. for example, I had to use my throw reload 3 times to kill a killer marauder in early game, but tossed my SMG once and killed a treant (granted the treant was slagged and I had a bee shield)
Vladoff doesnt have smgs though?
Vladof elemental weapons are a force to be reckoned with.
Bandit being the worst?! How absurd. How can you say that when they have such great weapons such as the "pistal" and the "mashine gun."
My favourite is probably Maliwan. Apart from the weapons you listed, they also made the magnificient Magic Missile grenade mod. Their weapons look fantastic, their sniper scopes are the best and the "Snider" Rifles are so much fun to use
Tediores exploding guns have saved me more than id like to admit
I do find that torgues weapons are pretty good at early levels, when you don't get many legendary or elemental weapons - they can deal decently high damage and when you don't have better elemental they're pretty solid. That said, they are outdone in late game by many weapons, and don't last very long in early leveling.
I usually stay away from tedior guns because I have a habit of reloading to often and that makes me run out of ammo way too fast.
I don't like Hyperion, their snipers are horrible, their pistols are mediocre at best, their shields are bad. The only exceptional thing about them are shotguns. For me Jakobs is the thing, they're very reliable, have good damage and you don't need to worry about matching elements.
Adriel Klein what's wrong with there snipers ?
BEEF05 Low Damage and fire rate.
Bee is not bad
I agree with snipers but what's wrong with the Bee?
Jayz_-31 The only reason the Bee is good because it's broken as fuck and game breaking.
if your Jacobs shotgun consumes it's entire magazine in 1 shot it fires pseudo-full auto
How is the Deliverance a bad weapon? I think it's awesome! A shotgun, that when thrown, seeks out enemies and constantly shoots a bottomless magazine until it detonates? Yes please!
The Thre Dog is the only Bandit weapon I've ever used for a decent period of time. It was a lifesaver early on in Frostburn Canyon with several characters.
My favorite manufacturer is Dahl, cuz I just love burst fire
Loved watching you realize that bandit floating above you during the Maliwan section.
The ones I don't like: Bandit, Tedior, and Hyperion
The ones I do like: Jakobs and Vladof
Inbetween: Torgue and Maliwan
I find that Dahl is my favorite weapons manufacturer. I really like the low recoil with the burst fire it's really good for accuracy. However as for their snipers it's kinda difficult for me to decide if I like it or hate it. I like the burst fire rate because I like being versatility. I'm able to snipe at a distance, while if an enemy is running towards me, I'm able to take it out as well. This is my opinion of course, and I always play as Zer0 or as Mordecai. In other words I usually play as a sniper class. My favorite sniper rifle from BorderLands 2 is the Night Terror. I find it does the damage that I want and has great accuracy. I prefer it as a corrosive element because it's easy to take out Loaders and Buzzards with it.
I'm a big Krieg player, so my personal bests pretty much have to be Maliwan and Torgue. Least favorite is obviously Jakobs since there are very few elemental Jakobs weapons.
From an objective standpoint I would say that in a group scenario as I usually play, Jakobs is still my least favorite, with Bandit beating it out for one gun variety in particular: the Bandit slag SMG. Jakobs single action on basically everything tends to annoy me personally and I am rarely the sniper in my friends group. Meanwhile the Bandit slag SMGs with decent parts provides very consistent slagging for massively extended periods of time due to the mag size.
Vladof actually takes my top spot for personal enjoyment because of the bane of everyone's existence, that being spiniguns. Nothing to me feels better than walking into a fight and watching the barrel spin up before throwing a veritable torrent of lead at whatever happens to be in front of me. Are they better than other barrel types? Nope, but they're fun. I also really enjoy the Anarchist pistol.
BIAKaboose Jakobs don't get enough credit. They make good assault rifles and pistols
i agree that bandit weapons usually get surpassed by just about everything with notable exceptions such as the the slagga or the tattler but for the best manufacturer
i would personally say maliwan as they can deal some insane damage over time especially a snider
Hyperion hates my Maya. I never got any elemental weapon from that company.
There is sad... But true :')
really like your style in this specific video tbh, like without this forced screaming and AYYIIISSS every 2 seconds it seems to be way more organized
For me it’d have to be
1. Vladof
2. Dahl
3. Torgue
4. Hyperion
5. Maliwan
6.Jakobs
7. Bandit
8. Tediore
I can’t recall a time where I used a Tediore weapon because I liked it ever. I love Hyperion Shotguns. I love Vladof snipers. I love Dahl Pistols and SMG’s. I love Torgue AR’s. I love Dahl simply for the accuracy and being able to get like 3-4 headshots in less than a second with a burst. I don’t like the long reloads for Jakobs and the non-elemental. I don’t like trying to wrestle with Jakobs recoil either. Bandit sucks because I don’t need the massive magazine. It’s not hard to find cover to reload for a second, and considering how bad it’s weapons are because of the mag size, you might not kill all of the enemies before needing a long ass 5 second reload anyhow.
ar: bandit
smg: maliwan
shotgun: hyperion
sniper: maliwan
launcher: torgue
pistol: torgue
grenade: bonus package
skyrocket melts most of the time
I am classy guy,I like hand made weapons and I have no time to waste.
What can I say I am a Jacob's guy.
while i think dahl is a fine weapons maker for the most part, i cannot stand dahl snipers, such a waste of ammo when they kill an enemy before the burst finishes
To be honest every manufacture is great on each weapon even though they have flaws. Honestly it's hard for me to picking one cause they all have uses in some ways.
Favorite: Vladof, really like fast fire rate on weapon's.
Best: Maliwan, with the gun elements you are unstoppable examples like the Norfleet.
Worst: Bandit, although their rocket launchers are great the others are kind of point less in capacity.
keynan martinez s and s and atlis
springy 22 Atlas should return in BL3.
the actualizer is actually really good against larger enemies like terra, crawmerax jr, tinder snowflake, the pumpkin kingpin, voracidous, vermiverous, saturn, bunker, and the warrior. it just isnt the best on smaller enemies or getting crits. also the torgue ogre is really good as well
Haha. "Bandit is limited to" then lists everything but sniper rifles
one thing i like about the explosive handguns is that once ur adjusted and u know u cant fire 'straight lines' at enemies more than 50ft away u can predict the 'arc of the bullet fired and ive had some cool blind kills hitting headshots but 'lobbing/arcing' an explosive pistol round over their cover etc
I'm only getting 360p on mobile
GuyFromVault101 10mins later, Max quality: 360p
GuyFromVault101 I'm still getting 360
GuyFromVault101 34 minutes ago
im getting 720p HD on my Galaxy.
Poo Poo 1080 boi on htc
Vladof, Tediore, and Jakobs are my favorites, with special mentions to Maliwan.
Did they really removed Atlas weapons???
Lance Elamparo 6 years late but yes bl2 doesn't have Atlas
Wow, only took you 6 years to realise that
If you can find a way, either through skills or relics, to lessen the downsides of bandit weapons they can actually be pretty good. Most of them have +damage for a lot of their parts. Axton is really good with them. Might do a bandit run with him.
"they're usually hit or miss"
But I guess they never miss, huh?
Boi, stfu.
You stole this, you scumbag.
I've only used it in the community balance patch but the Storm from Maliwan is a gun I used for almost 20 levels before replacing it. It seemed to be very overpower on my Gaige.
I love the Hyperion shotguns especially with SLAG and using Salvador with a high fire rate SMG is quite something to try out if you wanna see alot of damage . I hate Torgue weapons I absolutely never use them unless I get 1 from right at the start of a new character . Great video even though years ahead now I still love watching old BL2 videos and I still love playing BL2 who's here in 2022 ?
"Chère Amie" is pronounced
Sherr-Amie
not sherry amie
I always pronounced as "Kermay". I don't know why...
It means dear amie
Guy Fieri it means dear friend
Jesus Christ finally someone who actually commented about this
Best manufacturer in the series was SnS. This is back when manufacturers weren't almost exclusive in their niche as manufacturers, but they seemed to actually have the most going for them. They had an INCREDIBLY large ammo capacity, and some of their guns rivaled even Jakobs or torgue. It was honestly almost OP if it wasn't for the fact they had the slowest reloads (which even isn't the case when it came.to their pistols!)
I can't stand Dahl. They feel terrible to use.
High firerate Dahl weapons are always worth a try, sometimes they have almost zero delay between bursts-you can get relics that reduce the delays even more if you really wanted. I used to hate Dahl weapons, but on my most recent playthrough I've been giving them more of a chance and actually if the rate of fire is more than 8 and the stats look good, it is definitely worth testing, sometimes they almost function like full autos
When he says Jacobs leaves something to be desired in later difficulties, he's not joking.
I only did TVHM recently despite playing the base game several times before, and I very quickly dropped my love for jakobs stuff
Best: Maliwan
Worst: Torgue
Maliwan weapons are all really accurate and elemental while still looking awesome while Torgue weapons are inaccurate and only explode and look like giant warning signs or weapons that look like they're used by nuclear test dummies
Love your videos man I like how your intro is short and simple as well.
2:55 i guess they never miss, huh?
so i was messing with the save game editor and made a pistol . it had unlimited ammo and never needed to be reloaded but the barrel would spin so the gun spray was circular and very random. i would scope in aiming at the head and just see all the bullets making a circle around the head.
"Tediore e-tech rocket launchers are kinda bad to me"
Obviously hasn't played javelin krieg
It depends on the character you picked, like Torque guns are usually considered the worse for Maya but top picks for Axton or Gaige.
You know you're early when it's 360p...
your my favorite you tuber because you make videos on borderlands and fall out some of my favorite games
I'm a Jakobs man for life
Angelic Abomination yu spelle dmaliwan rong
Angelic Abomination same
I find Tediore exploding weapons reloads pretty helpful when tyring to maintain high anarchy stacks with Gaige. Specially if I want to use a rocket launcher. Even if the -1000% accuracy shoots a rocket at my feet and kills me, at least the rocket launcher, well, rocker launches at the center of the screen.
sadly anarchy gaige kinda ruins the fun of tediores, as there's nothing more fun then shooting one bullet and yeeting your SMG at a rakk 100 feet in the sky
I thought Hyperion snipers got more accurate as you stayed zoomed as well. I could be wrong about this, but I thought I remembered that being the case.
They do, he's saying people don't like them cause the first few seconds of aiming are less accurate
Not Asbestos
Ah, I always thought a tough Hyperion sniper worked really well in zer0 for this reason.
FYI. You make amazing videos. Thanks for all of your knowledge, it is extremely appreciated.
I disagree, banit shotguns like the oberkill and room cleaner are great.
Finally im not the only one, sure you could argue that the others have "better" stats but ill take a Bandit Shotgun over a Tediore one just to hear that awesome bang sound.
Of course anything made by Hyperion will surpass any other manufacturer.
am I the only BL2 player that only uses a pistol and sniper?
:)
Nope
I use Dpuh and pimpernel
Jacobs pistol and sniper.
using sirens phase lock and orb to constanly slag my enemies.
hugh damage and rate of fire on the pistols.
Fire Power701, I just use the Jakobs Skullsmasher and the DPUH
hey I got a question, if you want a large magazine.. why not just stick like a drum mag inside of an omg or other stuff.?
Best- Vladof
Worst- Bandit
let's see if my predictions are correct..
hiddenbutdeadly you were close
hiddenbutdeadly i like bandit
you are right
Best vladof and maliwan worst bandit and dahl
What's that assault rifle in your right hand during the part where you talk about Bandit is the worst I don't know all the weapons in Borderlands I was just interested
It doesnt taek 16 mins to say maliwan best. Bandit worst
how can you tell from 'E-Tech' to normal manufacturers since i picked up some weapons with different manufacturers and i didnt know some of them are 'E-tech' worst manufacturers.
The Tunguska is actually pretty good. You just have to know how to use it.
Shoot it at your "friends" and drop it. :)
How do you use it well then
i enjoy the unique bandit shotgun variants, there this one its from the captain scarlet which has a 80% crit increase which is good for slagged goliaths, from perspective of normal and tvhm,
e-tech bandits shotguns are bit underwhelming
Mikez Likez too me bandit SMG's are Great for hip fire.
All hail the Hyperion shotguns
Nebby god that's so true