@@GerMorden Except with the Master you have to both provide actual scientific evidence to support your claims, as well as convince him to check with his own sources to verify it. Only then does he accept his goals are unsustainable. Here, Eden requires no such evidence and basically just accepts your subjective assertions
@@RedFlameGamer But those are different situations. The Master was quick to doubt you because of his own self confidence in his plan and ignorance when it comes to the facts. Eden is a machine with no loyalty to the Enclave and only cares about doing what is most logical.
The most BS part is that you could have turned Eden into an amazing ally after making him self aware of his internal logic error. Persuade him to be a tool for you, use his command of the Enclave and his processing abilities to help YOU bring back America.
The sad thing is that he, at most, would make for a good mouthpiece. The rest of the Enclave soldiers will still shoot you because they follow Autumn, not Eden, and Autumn marked you for death. At most, I can see Raven Rock being a base you can sleep in, and you'd be able to requisition new Enclave suits of armor along with plasma rifles, laser rifles, and Heavy Incinerators per day.
I hope everyone realizes that by "mutants" he doesn't just mean Ghouls or Super Mutants but every single human being that isn't a vault dweller. The Enclave considers everyone who was born on the surface a mutant. Though its a step back, seeing how the FEV virus used to be airborne in Fallout 2. And the plan was the same... Wait, how is this creative again? Did someone install Vista on our president?
Actually the FEV virus was also going to be deployed into earth's oceans via the oil rig the enclave base is located on, supposedly the current would eventually "carry it all over the entire planet" but it still seems like an iffy plan at best even back then. Anyway my point was it was never an airborne virus otherwise they may very well have already used it on the wasteland proper.
Who cares It was an airborne virus, they were going to release it into the jetstream via the oil rigs release system. They were mere hours from deploying it but the Chosen One stopped them.
according to the lore everyone who isnt mutated traces back to a vault. and lets get real here. if the US will ever be restored they DO have to go. occasionally there is a wild bear or tiger that likes people, but we dont just let wild killers roam our cities because "theres a few good ones" (oh wait...)
Yeah, same here. He's an AI, so he justifies genocide using super intelligence, because he's programmed to continue the American government, by any means necessary. I wouldn't mind killing off the hostile Vault 87 Super Mutants, but Ghouls are actually people, and there's no point in killing innocent wastelanders. I would've liked to see something along the lines of the Lone Wanderer actually replacing Colonel Autumn in the Enclave, and turning on the Brotherhood of Steel. I haven't blown up the Citadel, because I hear that no matter what, the Enclave will be hostile towards you. Not much point in siding with them.
Kristof Subasa If you did blow up the Citadel you would get various amounts of Mini Nukes, Alien Power Cells, Microfusion Cells as well as multiple Tesla Cannons and Callahan's Magnum which is the strongest firearm in the game. I wouldn't ever do it on a "proper" profile, only on an evil or joke profile.
Eden's voice is interesting but his dialogue at the end was a little cringey. He was suppose to switch from a artificial intelligence to a organized protocol but there was barely a change. He went from having a personal conversation to having a statement of error
I think Malcolm McDowell has the best voice acting in the game. Liam Neeson did a pretty good job of putting some life into fairly badly-written lines, but Eden sounds so much more lifelike (which is pretty funny considering he's a computer). I didn't even realize until after I had blown him up that it was dear old Alex.
I think they rushed the ending part a bit too much. He shouldn't have killed himself so easily. I wish there was a way to have him surrender or change his plans and "retire". With maybe a few more speech checks. This felt too easy
Yeah, all that build-up and you can just change things like that if your science is high enough. There’s a difficult speech check too, but the science option kinda ruins the point of it.
Honestly, he should have been the final boss. He reminds of the master actually. He believes what he’s doing is right, but when shown that there is an error in his plan, he is unable go through with the plan and destroys himself.
While his methods were undoubtedly ruthless and lacking in humanity, I can't help but feel like he really did have pure intentions, even if his techniques for reaching those goals were excessive.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. There is no such thing as “purity of mankind”, it’s a dangerous ideology that’s counter to natural evolution. Besides the FEV and the nuclear war created and instigated by the very same powers that be and the masses are always the ones that pay.
No he does not. The Master had good intentions. He believed that turning people into mutants he was saving humanity by bringing them into a new existence, but then you point out his plan is flawed and that they will all eventually die. That is an example of good intentions. Eden wants you to genocide the wasteland, and admits that it will kill anyone who is not Enclave or from a vault, such as you. That's not good intentions, that's openly admitting to wishing to commit genocide on what's left of humanity.
Would the FEV also kill the Enclave, it's not like the FEV would have different effects on them. But for sure the FEV would not affect Super Mutants because it is the FEV that creates them, literally. What Eden is doing is creating a genetic dead end in humanity's evolution, for it is mutation that dictates what gets passed on in humanity's lineage, mutation is good and or bad in evolution, what happens is if it's good then that genetic line will be passed on and if it doesn't, well it dies. In the end, it all comes down to genetics, and if we look at Fallout 2, FEV affected an Enclave officer in the same way it did to the so called "mutants." This genocide dubbed as purification or purge, is a lie, a falsehood, and the intent is based upon an assertion with no fact to back it up, instead with fact that goes against it.
God I remember when I first met Eden, I found that one of the biggest twists in the game. When I got there, I was looking for a dude in a suit or something, but I was shocked that he was the computer.
"NOW YOU LISTEN HERE, PRIVATE. YOU WILL TAKE THIS MODIFIED FEV VIRUS! YOU WILL DELIVER IT TO PROJECT PURITY! YOU WILL INSERT IT INTO THE CONSOLE! EVERYONE WILL DIE! YOU WILL KILL THEM ALL! BUT DO YOU KNOW WHO WON'T DIE, PRIVATE? THIS MAN'S ARMY! NOW IF I SEE YOUR FACE BACK HERE BEFORE THIS FINE COUNTRY IS FREE OF MUTANTS, IT WILL BE THE SORRIEST DAY OF YOUR SHORT LIFE"
Its a very interesting dilema. I like the science option and the logical induction of the self destruct. I played with pretty much all of the options (had saved just before) and found this to be a good choice if you played to have a 'smart' character. It's just not as satisfying if you say a few words and suddenly this centuries old AI changes his whole plan for the future because somebody with good people skills came along.
I would. Mr. House, Eden and the Institute are the best options for the human species in each game so far. You can make an omelette without breaking some eggs.
@@CalacaRoja I agree with Mr. House, but certainly not Institute or Eden, the only way to make Institue good is that your character(considering he would've had Very Good Karma in Fallout 4) would eventually became the Director of Institue and would actually help the people of the Commonwealth, but since 3 of 4 ending tell you to destroy it and Institue ending considered as evil one and you following their initial ideology to experiment on people it stays evil because of Bethesda writing's """pure genious""". About Eden tho, it's evil if you like it or not. Only House out of 3 has actual plans for the future of mankind. But only few people playing New Vegas realize that, but commodity often sides with NCR or Yes Man for a variety of reasons, "MUH DeMocRacY" or "I Am ThE RuLeR", and/or "MuH BrOtHeRhOoD", oh please
@@CalacaRoja Eden is not the best option, he's one of the worst. Mr. House is one of the best options and the Institute is a possibility. Genocide isn't a solution, and dead locking humanity's genetics into a dead end is bad, because evolution is dictated by mutation, dependent on if said mutation is good or bad. If the mutation is beneficial and good then it'll be passed on through a lineage and if the mutation is malignant, causes negatives to man, and bad then it'll eliminate itself because the ones who bear it will die out. In a sense mutation works in line with survival of the fittest. FEV either changes one into a Super Mutant or kills them, one is a genetic dead end and the other in essence cuts off the path of evolution and progression, the Forced Evolutionary Virus feels like an opposite to evolutions methods.
John Henry Eden wanted no more then to clear out the Wasteland free of raiders and creatures, so the Enclave could rebuild Washington. He did not deserve to die only because of his plan to eliminate all the creatures in the Wasteland. Even thought he was only just a computer, he still had a good plan on rebuilding America, and he would've done anything to accompolish that goal.
Technically anyone who was living and drank from the water would have died because all the water before purification would have given them small mutations too.
@DanRage47 well i mean what i was aguing for was that not everyone who drank the wter would die as the enclave and vault dwellers would be fine and couldnt really mutate unless they were exposed to too much radiation as a little isnt gonna do that right away
When i was looking for him it took me thirty minutes of walking in circles and trying to get through the door to find mr. president. When i found him i was like "WTF@!#!$!$!"
I know right? But you didn't see it all, if you play Skyrim, you will discover how shittier Bethesda stories are. That's my only worry about FO4, because the game will be fantastic, but I already can expect a horrible story. Seriously, they need to let Obsidian(they worked on New Vegas, and did an spectacular job) do the story and characters part, while Beth can make gameplay and exploration.
+George Kihara The reason was Obsidian's unique business model. They get paid first, then have to release the buggy, unfinished game when the money runs out ( They would have gotten a bonus if New Vegas was one point higher on Meta Critic). Luckily, after Vegas they agreed not to release another buggy game.
I do like how you can convince Eden to blow himself up; it's a nice callback to the Master in the original Fallout. Speaking of the original Fallout, that game told us that a nuke had hit an FEV facility during the war blowing it sky high, mixing it with the radioactive fallout, the wind carried it across the country. In essence, EVERYONE in the wasteland is infected with an FEV strain. What Eden doesn't realize is that the modified FEV he gives you won't just affect Ghouls and Super Mutants; it'll affect everyone, including his own soldiers.
well if you think about it, America was built on sacrifices, risks and difficult and monstrous decisions, any empire or civilization has been, we all die eventually, so if someone isn't willing to sacrifice to get somewhere, they will go no where.
End Me ahh. At least it wasn't an anti-Jew rant and was merely a simple joke. Sorry,jumped into conclusions. Least it was a mere joke(and I'm such a pussy huh)
@@josephcalabrese6337 I'm not sure if you are being anti-theistic but religions are actually ran like laboratories and derive their beliefs from derived from philosophical theories. Those particular people who don't still have personal proof of their trust in holy texts. It can be something simple such as a Intelligent Designer or a God of The Gaps. I hope that you are only joking and aren't actually expressing vengeance. If so then just move along
President Eden: ...Resetting primary memory circuts. Please stand by... (Background Music): "I'm singing in the rain. Just singing in the rain. What a glorious feeling..."
whats cool is Malcolm McDowell (president john henry eden)...is in an upcomming Post-Apocalypse movie called "The Book of Eli" with Denzel Washington and Gary Oldman. those 3 actors together should be something WONDERFUL. its cool how he goes from A Clockwork Orange to an amazing video game and even MORE movies :)
Fallout 2: Chosen: Have you tought mainland humans are slightly different humans? Enclave scientist: Lol you're right i have to kill everyone in this base now. Fallout 3: Lone Wanderer: You delusional Eden: Shit. Excuse me i gotta die Fallout 4: Dr. Li: No i'm not going to fix the Liberty Prime. I made a promise and i kept it. Sole Survivor: Remember why did you do the promise? Dr. Li: Shit you're right. Now where's that part... Amazing dialogue as always.
@@ViktoriaMagrey I'm not against convincing villains to let you go, I'm against bad dialogue. Convincing Frank, even if you needed 100% speech, would have been cool.
@@l.pietrobon3925 Yeah, I agree. The Master is actually one of my favorite confrontations of all time. I think Frank could have had a moment like Legate Lanius where you at least convinced him to "postpone the meeting" as it were. I think I like it this way, though. Cool to know that with some people there's just no way. I'm usually willing to allow basic dialogue so long as it doesn't overstay its welcome and is straightforward about it, but Fallout 3 actually shocked me with how bad it got at times. President Eden and Colonel Autumn are just...No. Eden in particular was awful. Probably one of the most WTF moments I've had playing a Fallout installment.
@@ViktoriaMagrey I've never played NV, but it seems like a combination of the good gameplay, less luck based systems, and better graphics of the 3D games, and the better storytelling, role-playing and dialogue of the 2D games. I'd love to play it.
@@l.pietrobon3925 Yeah, you should when you have the chance. It's a good game! I was a bit skeptical, but given that they were given such little time to make it it's really good. Starts a bit slow but the story is solid with a fair bit to do and you have a lot more choices than 3. Good side quests but a really engaging main plot once it kicks off properly. The DLCs also range from good to phenomenal, perfectly fit into the story. It was a slow burn for me but I can see why so many people like it. Probably the best 3D Fallout in terms of actual roleplay.
I'm leaving the final part open and having fun roaming around with Charon , Sydney and dogmeat. 100% speech or near it is really important in this game. If your starting out get child at heart perk and yews bear charm in oasis. its an instant + 10 to speech. . ask her what harold is afraid of and talk to her after you decide and do whatever to harold the talking tree thing. Child at heart and lady killer black widow are both good to get. Child at heart and lady killer lets you complete the canterbury commons superhuman gambit easily
I felt SOO epic making him blow up like this. I mean, you literally BROKE a super computer with logic, and made him explode! As i was casually strolling out of the exploding base, i think that was the most badass i had ever felt in a game. I love Fallout
spinningninja2 I think it's even more epic than that. I mean, besides breaking the super computer, you also taught Enclave a freaking hard lesson. After all, from the beginning they are all so cocky with their guns (hence the women scientist who got shot down), and they're the cause of your father's death, because they think of themselves as Almighty God who knows everything. Then they kidnap you, and that is the worst mistake they have ever made because it gave you the opportunity to f**k up their HQ with high intelligence. Finally you leave the base with a "Never mess up with me". Badass + 1000
It could have been better. If you told him to submit to your own will, you could have him under your command, and take rule of Raven Rock under the Brotherhood.
@@jhinpotion9230 No, it's more like walking up to a computer, convincing it of it's flawed circular logical thinking and delusional belief. Not that I'd expect you to have any high opinion of people who like a game that you do not despite coming to a video on it on your own free will just to belly ache.
@@Katrinaprime That would maybe make sense if you actually convinced it of anything but your dialogue options don't really involve anything beyond *super* base level observations, which only work because Eden is poorly written and is a big smart AI that has never pondered the most basic things, and apparently neither has anyone at the Enclave since they believe what it does
Jan Štembera In the footlocker at the end of Colonel Autumns's bed in his Quarters. I know this reply is a year late and you probably have found the answer by now but I just had to answer XD
You're welcome yeah I made a save after i got the code but before I talked to Eden so i could try both options. I did the science check but I didn't like his reaction to that. So I loaded that save I made then chose the option to blow him up with the code. I am guessing you sided with the Brotherhood of Steel, if so then Steel be with you.
no, see i can hear audio from everyone and radios, but when i talk to them, i cant hear them and if i turn on my pipboy radio, i cant hear any dialog on it, only the music. i have a similar problem with microsoft flight simulator where all the dialog of the instructors in the tutorials aren't audible.
I have one major question. How in the fuck did a computer become president. The enclave which should follow the presidential line where if he dies who is next or would have voted a human in power. Hell if the enclave has no choice between a computer and a janitor who helped clean the white house the janitor would be picked hell even if there wasn't a janitor they wouldnt pick a computer they would find anyone to be president.
Eden was evil, wanting to "purify" the wasteland with the FIV virus, Colonel Autumn was the hero, as he wanted to purify the water in the wasteland without any chemicals or experiments
+Accidental238 According to fallout wikia you got born outside in a wasteland settlement, not sure if rivet city or not, then after you gave birth and your mom died the dad took you and himself to vault 101. Gathered Source: 2258July 13: Fallout 3 prologue begins - The Lone Wanderer is born and Catherine dies during childbirth.James, distraught by the loss of his wife, travels to Vault 101 with his child via Megaton, with the help of Paladin Cross, abandoning Project Purity.[83]
+Accidental238 +CJ GamerX It was implied that the opening birth scene of your character in fallout 3 was in the science block of rivet city. I say implied because that scene looked similar to the textures of rivet city and Dr Li was there assisting the birth (who has been working in Rivet City this whole time)
+abb baa You were born in the Jefferson Memorial, where dad's purifying facility is, which is close to Rivet City. It's where it all began and where it all ended, assuming you don't have the Broken Steel DLC. I know because I used the noclip cheat in the console during the labor scene; you could also find the bed on which you were born as well as various medical apparatus inside the place which look exactly the same as in the first cutscene.
To be fair, infinite loops are ridiculously easy to create in most programming projects. I mean, most daemons are just infinite loops running in highly controlled environments. Leave a process running here, a parent here, a child here, and suddenly there's a few dozen threads eating up all the system memory until UNIX crashes.
well you dont really break it, you just convince the computer that its logic is circular so that it realizes it’s making a mistake, and then it waits for its next directive
From this video i start to think my self since i want to try role play as a loyal and good soldier of the enclave my question is.should follow president eden order ? or refuse to put the modified fev virus to the purity of water ? then again i ask this lore wise question because in fallout games i want to role play as enclave soldier.
Dean Kenneth Korstjens his dialogue made more impact than Eden's ever did. That, and the reason for him to kill himself is actually reasonable (hey, it's better than just saying "you're a freak. Die please").
There are I suppose similarities to Edens plans and those of caesar. Both seek to eliminate large quantities of the wasteland to rebuild in their own image ?
@jessilovestennis if you do the purifier mission, than the game ends and you follow a huge robot to a factory to purify all the water. You wont be able to play again unless you have the broken steel expansion because the factory is suppose to explode or something like that.
Him being a computer, and extremely intelligent, he lacked 2 things - self awareness & common sense. And him being a computer trying to process that ended up destroying him.
I wish you could've sided with Colonel Autumn, help him overthrow Eden, fight the Brotherhood of Steel with the Enclave, and activate the water purifier with the Enclave.
guys. i had dogmeat and charon..after i got captured they were gone. i figured they would be back after i got out...i finished the quest...and they werent...i saw fawkes but i had bad karma...i found dogmeat at 101...but where would charon be? please help!
I mean... I guess that's cool but did it really have to be the ol "answer a question you could never answer?" Trick? Like you have all this potential for this guy and it's... Ya know what, nevermind.
Hey i had a follower when they captured me. i had charon from the underworld and when i left raven rock i couldnt find him anywhere. is he left back at vault 87 or what happens.................... please respond to this
Someone care to explain why the Aqua Pura with FEV kills the LW? Is the player affected in some way by mutation? At least in my playthrough i have never been irradiated with more than 10 rads. Thanks!
Bruno the strong man If you answer her with the Medicine option you complete the minimum requirements without getting the perk for getting 600+ rads. He might have gotten the Ant Sight, or Ant Might perk from the Things quest, and that would be a mutation. I'm sure there are other perks that would also count.
Lennard Church Yep, I have the ant sight for the +Per and + F. resist. - Also in the wiki says that the LW is not inmune because He/She was born outside the vault? So we are screwed anyway :P (thanks Beth)
you know that one thing you got yur dads tapes that said he went to vault 112 and the tapes were on that one machine so you just open it and put the fev virus in there
so this is president eden from fallout 1?! so far the only fallout game i understand is new vegas (probably because thats the only one i have) so im still trying to figure out the story for fallout 2 and 3. 1 i kinda get but its still confusing.
cant you just get out of the project purity room by usin the console command (click yourself) moveto "Object ID" i guess you would have to of remembered an object id. i shall try this out now.
i wonder if "the shocker" had anything to do with blowing him up.. cuz i saw no use for it and dropped it. its like a power fist but ...well i dont see any other difference
FALL OUT 3 is awesome. I took that VIAL, and the computer turned off after some answers I chose. Wha'ts the best option to do here? Ad whats the rewards and influence in the endings??? Were you playing in PC? Your computer specs must be awesome...great resolution. Very funny the ending of the conversation (never have done that before). Another doubt, I gave the VIAL to that old man in Brotherhood of Steel...can ANYBODY send me a video with the ending where you use the VIAL?
He survived the past 200 years of chaos! ...until someone told him he was delusional.
Andreas Noriega That was a science check.
Well, that can be said about Master himself.
He just took 1000 psychic damage.
@@GerMorden Except with the Master you have to both provide actual scientific evidence to support your claims, as well as convince him to check with his own sources to verify it. Only then does he accept his goals are unsustainable. Here, Eden requires no such evidence and basically just accepts your subjective assertions
@@RedFlameGamer But those are different situations. The Master was quick to doubt you because of his own self confidence in his plan and ignorance when it comes to the facts. Eden is a machine with no loyalty to the Enclave and only cares about doing what is most logical.
The most BS part is that you could have turned Eden into an amazing ally after making him self aware of his internal logic error. Persuade him to be a tool for you, use his command of the Enclave and his processing abilities to help YOU bring back America.
The sad thing is that he, at most, would make for a good mouthpiece. The rest of the Enclave soldiers will still shoot you because they follow Autumn, not Eden, and Autumn marked you for death. At most, I can see Raven Rock being a base you can sleep in, and you'd be able to requisition new Enclave suits of armor along with plasma rifles, laser rifles, and Heavy Incinerators per day.
This is what would happen if Obsidian did Fallout 3
I Test Stuff yeah but this was made by Bethesda not obsidian so that probably wasn’t ever in question
Maybe if the writing wasn't so shit
swatbot2611 so because you can’t go on this dumb enclave fantasy trip that would’ve made no sense in the story anyway, the writing is shit?
I hope everyone realizes that by "mutants" he doesn't just mean Ghouls or Super Mutants but every single human being that isn't a vault dweller. The Enclave considers everyone who was born on the surface a mutant. Though its a step back, seeing how the FEV virus used to be airborne in Fallout 2. And the plan was the same...
Wait, how is this creative again? Did someone install Vista on our president?
Lmao
Actually the FEV virus was also going to be deployed into earth's oceans via the oil rig the enclave base is located on, supposedly the current would eventually "carry it all over the entire planet" but it still seems like an iffy plan at best even back then.
Anyway my point was it was never an airborne virus otherwise they may very well have already used it on the wasteland proper.
Who cares It was an airborne virus, they were going to release it into the jetstream via the oil rigs release system. They were mere hours from deploying it but the Chosen One stopped them.
according to the lore everyone who isnt mutated traces back to a vault. and lets get real here. if the US will ever be restored they DO have to go. occasionally there is a wild bear or tiger that likes people, but we dont just let wild killers roam our cities because "theres a few good ones" (oh wait...)
thats the point! kill em all i say
President Molag Bal, apparently.
***** Singin' in the rain!
Doom Guy It's a Wonderful Feelin'
SKYRIM
More like President Jyggalag. Bal would just rape the mutants or turn them into vampires.
@Metsarebuff 22 I know. But personality-wise, Eden is closer to Jyggalag.
Despite him planning on killing about 80% of the Wasteland you can't help but feel bad for him when he deactivates himself.
Yeah, same here. He's an AI, so he justifies genocide using super intelligence, because he's programmed to continue the American government, by any means necessary. I wouldn't mind killing off the hostile Vault 87 Super Mutants, but Ghouls are actually people, and there's no point in killing innocent wastelanders. I would've liked to see something along the lines of the Lone Wanderer actually replacing Colonel Autumn in the Enclave, and turning on the Brotherhood of Steel. I haven't blown up the Citadel, because I hear that no matter what, the Enclave will be hostile towards you. Not much point in siding with them.
Kristof Subasa If you did blow up the Citadel you would get various amounts of Mini Nukes, Alien Power Cells, Microfusion Cells as well as multiple Tesla Cannons and Callahan's Magnum which is the strongest firearm in the game. I wouldn't ever do it on a "proper" profile, only on an evil or joke profile.
southparkkenny2 yeah but lore wise it's not worth it
Plus it would also kill you since the lone wander was born at the purifier building and secretly brought into the vault.
Nah, he was just a cheap knock-off of Master and F2's president. That whole sequence as terribly written.
This plan of his could’ve never happened if Augustus Autumn installed anti-virus software on him
This is why you use NordVPN
Malcolm McDowell's voice was perfect for this.
It's crazy that this man was Alex DeLarge in A Clockwork Orange
Thebestever441 never knew Doctor Monty Was a computer
This is the voice I always thought V had in V for Vendetta. Is that just me?
Viddy well, little brother, viddy well...
Eden's voice is interesting but his dialogue at the end was a little cringey. He was suppose to switch from a artificial intelligence to a organized protocol but there was barely a change. He went from having a personal conversation to having a statement of error
that moment when i passed the speech check with him i was like, "wait thats it?"
I think Malcolm McDowell has the best voice acting in the game. Liam Neeson did a pretty good job of putting some life into fairly badly-written lines, but Eden sounds so much more lifelike (which is pretty funny considering he's a computer).
I didn't even realize until after I had blown him up that it was dear old Alex.
I think they rushed the ending part a bit too much. He shouldn't have killed himself so easily.
I wish there was a way to have him surrender or change his plans and "retire". With maybe a few more speech checks. This felt too easy
Yeah, all that build-up and you can just change things like that if your science is high enough. There’s a difficult speech check too, but the science option kinda ruins the point of it.
Sacrifices must be made for the greater good. Sacrifices that don't affect me or my organization
Not my name actualy they make said organization stronger.
Not my name 'some of you may die. But it is a sacrifice that I, am willing to make
Honestly, he should have been the final boss. He reminds of the master actually. He believes what he’s doing is right, but when shown that there is an error in his plan, he is unable go through with the plan and destroys himself.
Make the wasteland great again!
Kinda on the nose with trump eh?
@@Jo3x23 lmao they lack awareness of the implications of what they say
@@jayhollows5729 It's because Eden said America used to be great and it can again.
@@Jo3x23 More like Hunter Biden and his crack, along with the shady deals in Ukraine.
YES
While his methods were undoubtedly ruthless and lacking in humanity, I can't help but feel like he really did have pure intentions, even if his techniques for reaching those goals were excessive.
He's like the Master from Fallout 1. Good intentions, bad way to go through with them.
@Jamie Ballard This literally makes no sense.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
There is no such thing as “purity of mankind”, it’s a dangerous ideology that’s counter to natural evolution. Besides the FEV and the nuclear war created and instigated by the very same powers that be and the masses are always the ones that pay.
No he does not.
The Master had good intentions. He believed that turning people into mutants he was saving humanity by bringing them into a new existence, but then you point out his plan is flawed and that they will all eventually die. That is an example of good intentions.
Eden wants you to genocide the wasteland, and admits that it will kill anyone who is not Enclave or from a vault, such as you. That's not good intentions, that's openly admitting to wishing to commit genocide on what's left of humanity.
Would the FEV also kill the Enclave, it's not like the FEV would have different effects on them. But for sure the FEV would not affect Super Mutants because it is the FEV that creates them, literally. What Eden is doing is creating a genetic dead end in humanity's evolution, for it is mutation that dictates what gets passed on in humanity's lineage, mutation is good and or bad in evolution, what happens is if it's good then that genetic line will be passed on and if it doesn't, well it dies. In the end, it all comes down to genetics, and if we look at Fallout 2, FEV affected an Enclave officer in the same way it did to the so called "mutants."
This genocide dubbed as purification or purge, is a lie, a falsehood, and the intent is based upon an assertion with no fact to back it up, instead with fact that goes against it.
God I remember when I first met Eden, I found that one of the biggest twists in the game. When I got there, I was looking for a dude in a suit or something, but I was shocked that he was the computer.
Make America Great Again! President Eden for reelection 2281!
Just don't allow him access to the Electoral Networks or he will alter them himself.
Is it just me, or is Eden not even that bad of a guy(computer)?
R u an furry?
Probably not
Deponzy Barley xD
+Revvy Barley He just wanted what he thought was best for everyone else, but his delusional idea of helping mankind required genocide.
random commenter Yup. Kind of like Arthas.
Kind of wanted Sergeant Dornan to become president
Four score and seven years ago...
+Sergeant Dornan
*FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN DAMN YEARS AGO...
"NOW YOU LISTEN HERE, PRIVATE. YOU WILL TAKE THIS MODIFIED FEV VIRUS! YOU WILL DELIVER IT TO PROJECT PURITY! YOU WILL INSERT IT INTO THE CONSOLE! EVERYONE WILL DIE! YOU WILL KILL THEM ALL! BUT DO YOU KNOW WHO WON'T DIE, PRIVATE? THIS MAN'S ARMY! NOW IF I SEE YOUR FACE BACK HERE BEFORE THIS FINE COUNTRY IS FREE OF MUTANTS, IT WILL BE THE SORRIEST DAY OF YOUR SHORT LIFE"
He’s got my vote.
ABSOLUTELY!
"The United States was great once, but it can be again" sounds familiar
@GHOSTRIDER4991 "JWO" That's a new one.
I think the term is old, since the game has released in 2008
@GrayWolf2036 based
Nationalist rhetoric exists just about everywhere you go, really.
GrayWolf2036 did you just admit to being a nazi? Ew
Its a very interesting dilema. I like the science option and the logical induction of the self destruct. I played with pretty much all of the options (had saved just before) and found this to be a good choice if you played to have a 'smart' character. It's just not as satisfying if you say a few words and suddenly this centuries old AI changes his whole plan for the future because somebody with good people skills came along.
To be rather honest, who else here would join the Enclave, if possible in any Fallout game?
Eli Nations fallout 2 you can, but you still have to kill them
Fallout new Vegas is the closest we can get to joining the Enclave without destroying them.
I would. Mr. House, Eden and the Institute are the best options for the human species in each game so far. You can make an omelette without breaking some eggs.
@@CalacaRoja
I agree with Mr. House, but certainly not Institute or Eden, the only way to make Institue good is that your character(considering he would've had Very Good Karma in Fallout 4) would eventually became the Director of Institue and would actually help the people of the Commonwealth, but since 3 of 4 ending tell you to destroy it and Institue ending considered as evil one and you following their initial ideology to experiment on people it stays evil because of Bethesda writing's """pure genious""". About Eden tho, it's evil if you like it or not. Only House out of 3 has actual plans for the future of mankind. But only few people playing New Vegas realize that, but commodity often sides with NCR or Yes Man for a variety of reasons, "MUH DeMocRacY" or "I Am ThE RuLeR", and/or "MuH BrOtHeRhOoD", oh please
@@CalacaRoja Eden is not the best option, he's one of the worst. Mr. House is one of the best options and the Institute is a possibility. Genocide isn't a solution, and dead locking humanity's genetics into a dead end is bad, because evolution is dictated by mutation, dependent on if said mutation is good or bad. If the mutation is beneficial and good then it'll be passed on through a lineage and if the mutation is malignant, causes negatives to man, and bad then it'll eliminate itself because the ones who bear it will die out. In a sense mutation works in line with survival of the fittest. FEV either changes one into a Super Mutant or kills them, one is a genetic dead end and the other in essence cuts off the path of evolution and progression, the Forced Evolutionary Virus feels like an opposite to evolutions methods.
I miss the Enclave so much
I miss being in a Brotherhood I could live with instead of hate
"Brotherhood" it's a splinter of the Brotherhood based on one's interpretation of its codes you shouldn't hate it
Didn’t they want Bill Clinton to voice act this character?
Yeah, but then they figured that the Clintons had killed enough people in real life
A M true
Jack Kurtis Productions LOL
John Henry Eden wanted no more then to clear out the Wasteland free of raiders and creatures, so the Enclave could rebuild Washington. He did not deserve to die only because of his plan to eliminate all the creatures in the Wasteland. Even thought he was only just a computer, he still had a good plan on rebuilding America, and he would've done anything to accompolish that goal.
He was gonna kill every mutated creature or person leaving only 5% of the wasteland
Technically anyone who was living and drank from the water would have died because all the water before purification would have given them small mutations too.
awesomekidwithtoy That being said the bigger question remains. How would they undo the the virus
thats not how mutations work
@DanRage47 well i mean what i was aguing for was that not everyone who drank the wter would die as the enclave and vault dwellers would be fine and couldnt really mutate unless they were exposed to too much radiation as a little isnt gonna do that right away
When i was looking for him it took me thirty minutes of walking in circles and trying to get through the door to find mr. president. When i found him i was like "WTF@!#!$!$!"
What the hell were the "writers" thinking?
Bethesda is shit at storytelling. They seriously need to hire better writers.
Arkanjo Teixeira Its just hard to imagine how you could get paid as a writer and make....this
I know right? But you didn't see it all, if you play Skyrim, you will discover how shittier Bethesda stories are. That's my only worry about FO4, because the game will be fantastic, but I already can expect a horrible story. Seriously, they need to let Obsidian(they worked on New Vegas, and did an spectacular job) do the story and characters part, while Beth can make gameplay and exploration.
+George Kihara Obsidian won't manage to finish filling it though...
+George Kihara The reason was Obsidian's unique business model. They get paid first, then have to release the buggy, unfinished game when the money runs out ( They would have gotten a bonus if New Vegas was one point higher on Meta Critic). Luckily, after Vegas they agreed not to release another buggy game.
The Dialogue on this is so terrible it hurts.
Well...he is the president so.
compare it to the master in fallout 1. this is just awful
They just can't get it like the classics do.
Says a lot when this is 10x better than the entire dialogue system in Fallout 4
i liked it,until the end where he killed himself so easily
I do like how you can convince Eden to blow himself up; it's a nice callback to the Master in the original Fallout. Speaking of the original Fallout, that game told us that a nuke had hit an FEV facility during the war blowing it sky high, mixing it with the radioactive fallout, the wind carried it across the country. In essence, EVERYONE in the wasteland is infected with an FEV strain. What Eden doesn't realize is that the modified FEV he gives you won't just affect Ghouls and Super Mutants; it'll affect everyone, including his own soldiers.
make america great again "president eden"
The enclave isn't bad at all I honestly think that the enclave can make new world but it takes sacrifices to do that.
TwenWaen If they weren't killing innocents in the wasteland like Amata they wouldn't be
TwenWaen
Autumn was opposing the President and wanted to start the purifier, so....
well if you think about it, America was built on sacrifices, risks and difficult and monstrous decisions, any empire or civilization has been, we all die eventually, so if someone isn't willing to sacrifice to get somewhere, they will go no where.
End Me that sounds out of topic
End Me ahh.
At least it wasn't an anti-Jew rant and was merely a simple joke.
Sorry,jumped into conclusions. Least it was a mere joke(and I'm such a pussy huh)
we shall rename america to "water and power"
"What you're doing is right?"
"Sure, I'm infallible"
"How do you know that"
"Because I know that"
"Non sense..."
"... SELF DESTRUCT INITIALIZED"
Human win :D
That's also the same loop logic behind the major religions of the world.
@@josephcalabrese6337 I'm not sure if you are being anti-theistic but religions are actually ran like laboratories and derive their beliefs from derived from philosophical theories. Those particular people who don't still have personal proof of their trust in holy texts. It can be something simple such as a Intelligent Designer or a God of The Gaps. I hope that you are only joking and aren't actually expressing vengeance. If so then just move along
It's nothing more or less than what Descartes figured out. That loop is inevitable in all epistemology.
6:37 President Eden predicted President Trump!
Will oh. My. God. He did! Just one problem, that would have been a 220 year old prediction as this is based in the 2240s.
Yay another biased liberal scumbag! Go do some research then come back.
Eliot O'Boyce it's true, the news here in the states is just propaganda on both ends of the aisle. It's scary
Blindly following any dictator lmao
Go back to your X-Box Soyboy
President Eden: ...Resetting primary memory circuts. Please stand by...
(Background Music): "I'm singing in the rain. Just singing in the rain. What a glorious feeling..."
I never even remember hearing anything about the virus. I just persuaded him to turn the turrets against the enemies. It made the mission alot easier
Conclusion: even A.I could become an idiot.
i love how the guy who voices Eden is Alex Delarge from A Clockwork Orange xD
I accidentally clicked that he shoudl've blow everything up, and he did.. T_T
whats cool is Malcolm McDowell (president john henry eden)...is in an upcomming Post-Apocalypse movie called "The Book of Eli" with Denzel Washington and Gary Oldman.
those 3 actors together should be something WONDERFUL.
its cool how he goes from A Clockwork Orange to an amazing video game and even MORE movies :)
Mark Hazleton dude I've seen that movie it was soooo good
>upcoming
>the book of eli
I wasn't prepared for the fact that some Internet posts may become truly historical as the time goes by
This comment is like opening a time capsule.
@@Anangryviking True.
impossible quest item you give it to Lyons later if you dont want to be evil
Eden: Do your worst if you will not side with me
LW: 'pulls plug'
yes...his name is michael mcdowell...the actor from Star Trek Generations, A clockwork Orange, etc
Fallout 2:
Chosen: Have you tought mainland humans are slightly different humans?
Enclave scientist: Lol you're right i have to kill everyone in this base now.
Fallout 3:
Lone Wanderer: You delusional
Eden: Shit. Excuse me i gotta die
Fallout 4:
Dr. Li: No i'm not going to fix the Liberty Prime. I made a promise and i kept it.
Sole Survivor: Remember why did you do the promise?
Dr. Li: Shit you're right. Now where's that part...
Amazing dialogue as always.
New Vegas and 1 are the only games where this doesn't apply. At least 2 doesn't let you do that to the main boss, though...
@@ViktoriaMagrey I'm not against convincing villains to let you go, I'm against bad dialogue. Convincing Frank, even if you needed 100% speech, would have been cool.
@@l.pietrobon3925 Yeah, I agree. The Master is actually one of my favorite confrontations of all time. I think Frank could have had a moment like Legate Lanius where you at least convinced him to "postpone the meeting" as it were. I think I like it this way, though. Cool to know that with some people there's just no way. I'm usually willing to allow basic dialogue so long as it doesn't overstay its welcome and is straightforward about it, but Fallout 3 actually shocked me with how bad it got at times. President Eden and Colonel Autumn are just...No. Eden in particular was awful. Probably one of the most WTF moments I've had playing a Fallout installment.
@@ViktoriaMagrey I've never played NV, but it seems like a combination of the good gameplay, less luck based systems, and better graphics of the 3D games, and the better storytelling, role-playing and dialogue of the 2D games. I'd love to play it.
@@l.pietrobon3925 Yeah, you should when you have the chance. It's a good game! I was a bit skeptical, but given that they were given such little time to make it it's really good. Starts a bit slow but the story is solid with a fair bit to do and you have a lot more choices than 3. Good side quests but a really engaging main plot once it kicks off properly. The DLCs also range from good to phenomenal, perfectly fit into the story. It was a slow burn for me but I can see why so many people like it. Probably the best 3D Fallout in terms of actual roleplay.
The earliest ChatGPT as its finest.
Hmm if everyone infected with radiation dies hmm the people in the vaults can do oh no wait everyone in the vaults died hmm yep we're fucked
Interesting that the Enclave base shares a name with a settlement in Solstime, in the ElderScrolls.
I'm leaving the final part open and having fun roaming around with Charon , Sydney and dogmeat.
100% speech or near it is really important in this game.
If your starting out get child at heart perk and yews bear charm in oasis.
its an instant + 10 to speech.
. ask her what harold is afraid of and talk to her after you decide and do whatever to harold the talking tree thing.
Child at heart and lady killer black widow are both good to get.
Child at heart and lady killer lets you complete the canterbury commons superhuman gambit easily
"Does not compute. *explodes*" happens a lot with robots, and presidents, and robot presidents.
Richardson was better
When did Alex become a computer?
I felt SOO epic making him blow up like this. I mean, you literally BROKE a super computer with logic, and made him explode! As i was casually strolling out of the exploding base, i think that was the most badass i had ever felt in a game. I love Fallout
spinningninja2 I think it's even more epic than that. I mean, besides breaking the super computer, you also taught Enclave a freaking hard lesson. After all, from the beginning they are all so cocky with their guns (hence the women scientist who got shot down), and they're the cause of your father's death, because they think of themselves as Almighty God who knows everything.
Then they kidnap you, and that is the worst mistake they have ever made because it gave you the opportunity to f**k up their HQ with high intelligence.
Finally you leave the base with a "Never mess up with me". Badass + 1000
It could have been better. If you told him to submit to your own will, you could have him under your command, and take rule of Raven Rock under the Brotherhood.
+Reiji “Kagekiyo” Kogarashi
too bad the dialogue was shit.
@@jhinpotion9230 No, it's more like walking up to a computer, convincing it of it's flawed circular logical thinking and delusional belief. Not that I'd expect you to have any high opinion of people who like a game that you do not despite coming to a video on it on your own free will just to belly ache.
@@Katrinaprime That would maybe make sense if you actually convinced it of anything but your dialogue options don't really involve anything beyond *super* base level observations, which only work because Eden is poorly written and is a big smart AI that has never pondered the most basic things, and apparently neither has anyone at the Enclave since they believe what it does
i used the science dialogue options, i thought it was more witty to put the computer in it's place.
Well, yeah, the Courier can end a 4 year long war, but the Lone Wanderer can save humanity.
Mado LOGIC
Or the courier can screw up humanity
3:12 Where did you get the self-destruct code??? :D
Jan Štembera In the footlocker at the end of Colonel Autumns's bed in his Quarters. I know this reply is a year late and you probably have found the answer by now but I just had to answer XD
Halo Reach It's ok, thanks! :D
It's just that I always did this with the "science" option so seeing the "code" option was kinda new for me... :D
You're welcome yeah I made a save after i got the code but before I talked to Eden so i could try both options. I did the science check but I didn't like his reaction to that. So I loaded that save I made then chose the option to blow him up with the code. I am guessing you sided with the Brotherhood of Steel, if so then Steel be with you.
Halo Reach Steel be with you too... :D
"The United States was great once, and it can be again"
Uh oh looks like they installed the Trump personality
He said he was an amalgamation of all presidents “from Washington to Richardson” so that isn’t really surprising
Oh-bummer, same puppet, different face.
remember he wants to kill everyone who isn't on a vault
no, see i can hear audio from everyone and radios, but when i talk to them, i cant hear them and if i turn on my pipboy radio, i cant hear any dialog on it, only the music. i have a similar problem with microsoft flight simulator where all the dialog of the instructors in the tutorials aren't audible.
Hmmm, what happens if you say, "I guess I'll take my leave then." (or something among those lines.) Without telling him to self-destruct.
I dont know, I blew him up when I played fallout 3, ngl, I'm replaying it again but on very hard, save me
I have one major question. How in the fuck did a computer become president. The enclave which should follow the presidential line where if he dies who is next or would have voted a human in power. Hell if the enclave has no choice between a computer and a janitor who helped clean the white house the janitor would be picked hell even if there wasn't a janitor they wouldnt pick a computer they would find anyone to be president.
The president can’t die
I’ve not played fallout 3 actually, but I’d side with the Enclave for sure! NCR is second best.
His ending still comes across as a weaker version of the Master.
"President" Eden somehow reminds me of Helios from Deus Ex, since theyre both supercomputers...
Eden is actually a good character. He only wants to clean the country from defective life forms.
By that he means quite literally everyone apart from vault dwellers and Enclave
Eden was evil, wanting to "purify" the wasteland with the FIV virus, Colonel Autumn was the hero, as he wanted to purify the water in the wasteland without any chemicals or experiments
Weren't you born in rivet city ?
idk either that or vault 101
+Accidental238 According to fallout wikia you got born outside in a wasteland settlement, not sure if rivet city or not, then after you gave birth and your mom died the dad took you and himself to vault 101.
Gathered Source:
2258July 13: Fallout 3 prologue begins - The Lone Wanderer is born and Catherine dies during childbirth.James, distraught by the loss of his wife, travels to Vault 101 with his child via Megaton, with the help of Paladin Cross, abandoning Project Purity.[83]
+Accidental238 +CJ GamerX It was implied that the opening birth scene of your character in fallout 3 was in the science block of rivet city. I say implied because that scene looked similar to the textures of rivet city and Dr Li was there assisting the birth (who has been working in Rivet City this whole time)
+abb baa You were born in the Jefferson Memorial, where dad's purifying facility is, which is close to Rivet City. It's where it all began and where it all ended, assuming you don't have the Broken Steel DLC. I know because I used the noclip cheat in the console during the labor scene; you could also find the bed on which you were born as well as various medical apparatus inside the place which look exactly the same as in the first cutscene.
+Pepper Potts thank you for this answer, brings so much more meaning to the Alpha and Omega poem. I always wondered if there was more of an answer
can you go back into the enclave hideout in brokensteel if you don't blow him it up?
"The United Sates was great once, and it can be again"
Looks like he studied too much Trump as well.
Trump stole that slogan from Reagan
Dr. Loomis after he defeat Michael Myers
Pushing a robot into a loop to break it is the most annoying trope in all of Sci-Fi
To be fair, infinite loops are ridiculously easy to create in most programming projects. I mean, most daemons are just infinite loops running in highly controlled environments. Leave a process running here, a parent here, a child here, and suddenly there's a few dozen threads eating up all the system memory until UNIX crashes.
well you dont really break it, you just convince the computer that its logic is circular so that it realizes it’s making a mistake, and then it waits for its next directive
From this video i start to think my self since i want to try role play as a loyal and good soldier of the enclave my question is.should follow president eden order ? or refuse to put the modified fev virus to the purity of water ? then again i ask this lore wise question because in fallout games i want to role play as enclave soldier.
Convincing a delusional psychopath with a horrific plan involving genocide, to commit suicide via self-destruction. It's the Master all over again.
+JGDawg1
only without the good writing.
Dean Kenneth Korstjens are you saying the writing of Fo1 and 2 was awful?
Dean Kenneth Korstjens "The Master's dialogue was awful"
.......No it wasn't.
Dean Kenneth Korstjens well, he does expect you to answer HIS questions.
Dean Kenneth Korstjens his dialogue made more impact than Eden's ever did. That, and the reason for him to kill himself is actually reasonable (hey, it's better than just saying "you're a freak. Die please").
There are I suppose similarities to Edens plans and those of caesar. Both seek to eliminate large quantities of the wasteland to rebuild in their own image ?
Eden seems like a pretty solid dude... I'll be COMPLETLEY siding with enclave in my play through. I'll even blow up the brotherhood citadel
+WarlikeLockes
you still kind of join the Brotherhood
@jessilovestennis if you do the purifier mission, than the game ends and you follow a huge robot to a factory to purify all the water. You wont be able to play again unless you have the broken steel expansion because the factory is suppose to explode or something like that.
Nah Mr.house from fallout new Vegas. is way way way better and the hero from fallout.
Him being a computer, and extremely intelligent, he lacked 2 things - self awareness & common sense. And him being a computer trying to process that ended up destroying him.
This part was so fucking bad, lmao.
-Me about Diamond is unbreakable
+Durante Sánchez
Bruh.
I wish you could've sided with Colonel Autumn, help him overthrow Eden, fight the Brotherhood of Steel with the Enclave, and activate the water purifier with the Enclave.
What was autumns plan
@@SmashingCapital he wanted to use the water purifier to get the wastelanders on the enclave's side
@@adriangaeta4017 i just searched up and he wanted to kill every mutant aswell or sum like that
@@SmashingCapital yeah the enclave is generally anti-mutant but Eden wanted to also kill the wastelanders using the purifier
*insert Trump joke here*
gargoyles9999
Grab it by the ram.
skeetorkiftwon it wasn't easy for me I started out in the NCR, the Enclave gave me a small loan of a million caps
Why is none working in a mod to add the enclave as a faction
Eden sounds like JFK mixed with Morgan Freeman.
I heard they tried to get Bill Clinton to voice Eden but Bill's secretary or someone said no. :(
Col Augustus Autumn: "Who tampered with Eden's sub-routine commands again?!"
The reveal that Eden was a machine that blew my mind as a kid. One of the best reveals I’ve ever seen in media.
@AfKman101 if you do it right, he initiates a self destruct sequence and you gotta book it out of the place 'fore he blows. (up)
I have fallout 3 on pc, but there isn't any audio when i talk to people or on my pipboy radio, can some please tell me how to fix that,
@superkeijikun What about X during the transition between the Megaman X and Zero series?
I wanted so badly to become his second in command when I discovered President Eden was a computer, Bethesda shattered my dream :(
guys. i had dogmeat and charon..after i got captured they were gone. i figured they would be back after i got out...i finished the quest...and they werent...i saw fawkes but i had bad karma...i found dogmeat at 101...but where would charon be? please help!
What happens if you say he has no right to rule cause he was never elected president?
I mean... I guess that's cool but did it really have to be the ol "answer a question you could never answer?" Trick?
Like you have all this potential for this guy and it's...
Ya know what, nevermind.
Hey i had a follower when they captured me. i had charon from the underworld and when i left raven rock i couldnt find him anywhere. is he left back at vault 87 or what happens....................
please respond to this
Hello, im an English person.
Someone care to explain why the Aqua Pura with FEV kills the LW? Is the player affected in some way by mutation? At least in my playthrough i have never been irradiated with more than 10 rads. Thanks!
In the radiation quest with moira if you get over 600 rads you are permanently affected
Atomicflounder42 yeah but I answered that question with the Medicine option.
DragonM3t4l it does not matter if you got the optional 600 rads you get the radiation perk regardless what answer you give
Bruno the strong man If you answer her with the Medicine option you complete the minimum requirements without getting the perk for getting 600+ rads. He might have gotten the Ant Sight, or Ant Might perk from the Things quest, and that would be a mutation. I'm sure there are other perks that would also count.
Lennard Church
Yep, I have the ant sight for the +Per and + F. resist. - Also in the wiki says that the LW is not inmune because He/She was born outside the vault? So we are screwed anyway :P (thanks Beth)
I accidentally beat fallout 3 thinking I was only half way through the game
you know that one thing you got yur dads tapes that said he went to vault 112 and the tapes were on that one machine so you just open it and put the fev virus in there
so this is president eden from fallout 1?! so far the only fallout game i understand is new vegas (probably because thats the only one i have) so im still trying to figure out the story for fallout 2 and 3. 1 i kinda get but its still confusing.
yah you escape and then the whole thing explodes in a bright fire!
cant you just get out of the project purity room by usin the console command (click yourself) moveto "Object ID" i guess you would have to of remembered an object id. i shall try this out now.
i wonder if "the shocker" had anything to do with blowing him up.. cuz i saw no use for it and dropped it. its like a power fist but ...well i dont see any other difference
FALL OUT 3 is awesome. I took that VIAL, and the computer turned off after some answers I chose. Wha'ts the best option to do here? Ad whats the rewards and influence in the endings??? Were you playing in PC? Your computer specs must be awesome...great resolution. Very funny the ending of the conversation (never have done that before). Another doubt, I gave the VIAL to that old man in Brotherhood of Steel...can ANYBODY send me a video with the ending where you use the VIAL?
help! i have the zax destruction sequence but when everi click on it the game crashes!!!!!