The Last Dance: The Architect Of The Bulls Dynasty
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- As the latest episodes of ESPN's Last Dance air tonight, Coach Nick wanted to dig deeper into the architect of the Bulls Dynasty to make sure proper credit is given to the front office and Jerry Krause. Relive the Bulls two three-peats as we examine what went into many of the key personnel decisions. #LastDance #ChicagoBulls #JerryKrause
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Jerry Krause deserves more credit than he got, but wanted more credit than he deserved.
Story of life for behind the scene guys
Well put sir.
Hotobu Everyone once and a while an excellent comment such as this one restores my faith in an ever crumbling society on an intellectual level. This is it! Couldn’t have said it better!
Damn bro. I’m too high
@@mofo4what I've heard this quote before. I first heard it came from Steve Kerr (which wouldn't surprise me), but I'm not able to locate the original source.
Its sad how we'll never get to hear Jerry Krause's side of the story. R.I.P
He had time to tell his side...he didnt.
He doesn't need to. Everything shown in the documentary is objective. They praised him as a GM. And they showed how much his inflated ego proved to be his and the team's detriment
@@ChrisDodges123 Well to be fair, I'm sure he was not aware that a documentary was coming out in which he would be portrayed in very negative ways at times
@@northernlight1000 to be fair he didn't know he would be portrayed in a negative way?? How does that change anything that actually happened with him and how he acted?? It would be different if everyone had a different story about him but they were all the same about Jerry.
It's plain to see his side he was a douche through and through working behind ppl's back to dismantle the team but it backfired and they still became great no matter what he did to destroy the team
jerry reinsdorf is the villian of the whole thing.
rod axel hidden hand villain
@rod axel Agree. At least Krause stabbed you in the belly, Reinsdorf stabbed you in the back.
why? i know you heard from espn comment.
If you were Jewish Jerry Reinsdorf, you would protect fellow Jewish Jerry Krause too.
This is Michael Jordan ( a black man) after all, trying to pull a POWER MOVE to force you to keep Phil Jackson.
People fail to see that Jerry Reinsdorf is the REAL villain here.
Jethro Jacinto yeah, he is the one who wouldn’t renegotiate with Scottie. “I don’t renegotiate.” Okay good luck getting free agents to come to Chicago after this doc. He is also the one who enabled the premature rebuild. He obviously wanted it too.
I feel like he's the realistic businessman figure. You sign the deal and it's done no more talk about it.
Hoàng Hà Lê that’s not how successful relationships work in business. Teams are constantly giving guys more money early to stay in the good graces of their stars and to attract future free agents. You want to be seen as an organization that takes care of your players, not one that tries to trap and exploit them. Scottie Pippen was a big part of a run that made the Bulls organization hundreds of billions of dollars in tickets, media rights and merchandise. You take care of Scottie Pippen every time if you are a good owner.
Regardless of the situation, Scottie signed the deal himself so if you blame the organisation 6 you gotta blame Scottie 4. He got good chances to ask for more during MJ's retirement and he didn't( or we thought he didn't)@@Cardamander
@@hoanghale2671 Dude, Scottie wasnt that good, ie His value at the time was reflected in the salary. But now a couple years, he is the best number 2 in the league and you want to throw that under the bus?
One thing is for certain, Krause was a way better GM than Michael will ever be LOL. He's still the GOAT though.
he shouldn't have let his fragile ego get in the way.
What kind of GOAT GM cannot rebuild after Jordan left, remember without Jordan Bull Get no Trophy. He just lucky to have Jordan,Philp, Scoot, without them he nothing
World Peace but at the same time REMEMBER JORDAN AS A GM KAWAE BROWN TRADED RIP HAMILTON ADAM MORRISON MICHAEL KG & OTHER DUMB MOVES 🤣
MJ ain't a GM, he's an owner.
Christian Dela Pena you Obviously forgot HE HAD 90% pull with the wizards
9:50 MJ just locked on to Phil. Shows you the kind of intensity he had when it was game time. And from the stories, pretty much in any competitive setting.
Yes. No one is as competitive as he is. Kobe might be the closest. Magic bird were good. Lebron ... not so much.
Right I think that was when they were losing with Pippen out and MJ looking at him like "You better let them know how important this early regular season game is." Lol. MJ was just cut different.
I alredy think it speaks volumes on how interested Mike was in what Phil had to say 🧏🏾♂️
@@bobbyvalentino6773 for sure.
I knew I could count on you for another video right before tonight's episodes.
Zirui Deng what time does it start
Cameron Salehpour in a couple of minutes
Krause is the poster child for the Napoleon Complex. He definitely did a lot for the Bulls, but he wanted constant praise and a GM should be like a good movie score, enhancing but never noticeable.
There is always some things overlooked and some revisionist history with things like this. As someone who grew up outside of Chicago and was a massive Bulls fan the entire time, I was there for all of it, the good and the bad, and here's a few things people don't mention (or haven't yet). I warn you now, this is going to be long... and this is just a tip of the real Jerry Krause iceberg, If this were a video, it'd be a ten hour docu-series as well.
1. Krause was right with the Oakley trade. it pissed Jordan off BIGTIME at the time, but the Bulls had Horace and Oakley and they felt they wouldn't lose much production by letting Horace take Oak's spot in return for a legit center. This was a time when big men ruled the NBA and good centers were rare and valuable (which honestly isn't that different today). Most good power forwards would have been great centers if they were 6'10"-7' instead of being 6'6" to 6'9". At the time, nobody thought Cartwright had that much left in the tank nor was he all that good, but compared to what else was available, Cartwright was the best center available. This is also why the Bulls always had at least three serviceable centers active on the roster at all times. What became known as the "three headed monster" of Longley, Wennington, and Perdue was a mainstay throughout. Originally it was Cartwright, Perdue and whatever power forward they could put in, but eventually it became Longley, Wennington and a rotating cast of one-year free agents. John Salley, Robert Parish, Brian Williams (aka Bison Dele).
Almost every single year, Krause drafted or signed useless power forwards hoping to find a diamond in the rough that he could take credit for discovering and molding. Jason Caffey, Dickey Simpkins, Corie Blount, Stacey King, Brad Sellers, Jeff Sanders, Greg Foster, Larry Krystkowiak, Jack Haley, Mark Randall, Ed Nealy, Joe Courtney, Scott Williams, Cliff Levingston... He either got them too early and let them go for little to no return, or got them long after they were serviceable. Almost all of these power forwards played most of their time at the center position due to the lack of centers available, and almost all of them were far outmatched at that position. And yet despite taking these power forwards every year, during Jordan's entire tenure there were only three good ones: Charles Oakley, Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman.
2. Krause left BJ Armstrong unprotected in the Toronto/Vancouver expansion draft. Behind Jordan, BJ was the most beloved Bull and at the time he was the starting point guard averaging 22ppg. He gave that up for absolutely nothing.
3. The players Krause brought in right before and right after Jordan's retirement were Larry Krystkowiak, Pete Myers, Ron Harper and Toni Kukoc. Krystkowiak was washed up hot garbage. Harper was coming off of a devastating knee injury and was never the same player again. His rehab took forever, he was not a good shooter up until that point in his career, and it was questionable if he'd ever be able to play again, so acting like Krause brought in a dynamic scorer was total revisionist history. He got a cheap reclamation project and it eventually worked, once Jordan came back. Pete Myers was never a scorer and was considered a defensive specialist, which Krause saw as a poor man's Sydney Moncrief. I loved Pete Myers to death, but he really couldn't bring that much to the table.
None of these replacement players could fill the role of Jordan, so Pippen was expected to fill that role. With Horace leaving, Pippen was then expected to also fill THAT role as well. So Pip was asked to do the work of three all-stars and lead the team while they refused to negotiate his contract in any way. Paxson and Cartwright were breaking down with injuries, the players that were brought in were useless or injured, and the only good supporting teammate was given to Toronto for free. Meanwhile, Pippen was scoring like Jordan, rebounding like Grant, and defending the opposing team's best player every single night... and yet people still wonder why Pip got pissed when Toni Kukoc got the last shot and why he got surgery and rehabbed his foot injury on company time.
4. Racism, the elephant in the room: Whether real or perceived, racism was definitely an issue throughout Krause's tenure. Krause was always bringing in white players who weren't as good as available black players. Perdue, Wennington, Longley, Nealy, Buechler, Krystkowiak, Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Chuck Nevitt, Mark Randall... it was always a thing. When the Bulls visited the White House in 1992, Hodges wore a dashiki (look it up if you don't understand the significance) and gave Bush Sr. a note lambasting him and his administration and their social policies. Hodges, the reigning three point champion, was cut and no other NBA team would sign him. He believes he was blackballed out of the NBA by Krause souring his name to other teams in the league.
Krause's Great White Hope, Toni Kukoc, was an issue for nearly four years. Krause kept money set aside in the budget every single year in case Kukoc would come over from Europe. Kukoc was drafted in 1990, but didn't come to the team until 1994. That entire time, Krause kept talking about his idea of Kukoc as his 6'10" point guard of the future and year after year, he failed to deliver. Meanwhile, there were glaring holes in the roster that Krause could have used that money to sign. There wasn't a salary cap situation at the time, but Reinsdorf gave Krause a budget, and Krause held money aside for Kukoc every year, leaving the team shorthanded. This is why Jordan and Pippen went for Kukoc's jugular in the 92 Olympics, they hated him because they hated Krause and were sick of Krause hyping Kukoc up. When Kukoc did finally sign with the Bulls, he thought he was coming to a championship contender with the greatest players in the NBA, only to find Jordan and Grant had left, half of the team was injured, and Pippen was a nightmare.
Everyone is going to tiptoe around this issue, especially today with everyone being so sensitive to hot-button trigger words, but race was definitely an issue.
5. One thing that keeps coming up is how Krause isn't alive to defend himself. First of all, Krause never felt the need to defend himself. He would explain himself, but never from a position of defending himself. Krause felt like he did a damn good job and had a justification for every single thing that he did. He wanted accolades, he wanted attention, but he did not need to be liked. He relished being the bad guy, the guy that "the buck stops here", because Reinsdorf was a hands-off owner when it came to running the team. Reinsdorf was available to the players, he made decisions and he wanted to know where his money was going, he was not a meddling owner that was telling Krause what kind of team he wanted, what players to get etc. The fact that Reinsdorf when to Phil Jackson in Montana to bring him back for the last season burned Krause for years.
There's also a lot of people talking about Krause wanted to feel like he was a part of the team, and people feel sorry for him. Correction: Krause did not want to be PART of the team, he wanted everyone to know he RAN the team. He wanted them to all know he was the boss. He rode with the team even though he was not needed and absolutely nobody wanted him there, something most general managers didn't (and still don't) do. In fact, the only thing him riding with the team and always being around did was create even more drama and tension, but he didn't care. He would separate business matters from personal matters when he wanted, and then he would combine the two when it suited him. He would be ruthless with contract negotiation and if he took something personally through a player's tenure, he would use that against the player when it came time to negotiate a new contract. He'd tell you it's a business and he's making business decisions, but he made just as many bad business decisions as he did good ones, and he made a lot of those business decisions based on personal matters and would not even deny it after the fact.
You never knew where you stood with Krause. If Phil Jackson liked a player, and that player came up for free agency, Krause would low ball him on purpose just because Phil liked him. Jordan was never a good talent scout, and when he's complain to Krause about the players he was bringing in and bring up names of people he'd rather sign, Krause would only get those players by giving up as little as absolutely possible and lord it over Jordan when those players didn't work out, which they rarely ever did.
In the end, Jerry Krause never wanted to be liked, just respected. And he was even happier if it was a reluctant, feared respect. He did feel his skills in drafted were unappreciated because the Bulls won so many games, it rarely left him with good picks. He really wanted to bottom out to get higher picks because he felt he could get great players that other teams would overlook. He bucked trends because he thought he was smarter than everyone else and he didn't let any of his failures get in his way. If a pick didn't turn out, it's because that player just didn't work hard enough. If a free agent signed didn't work out, he would say he paid less than anyone else would have anyway, so he got a bargain.
If he were alive today, he'd smirk and think you were a sucker if you felt sorry for him and he would take advantage of it.
Thanks for sharing, enjoyed the read.
Only thing, BJ Armstrong never averaged 22ppg...
BJ Armstrong didn't average 22 ppg in his entire life, and Kukoc averaged 17 ppg, 5-6 rpg, and 5+ apg per 36 while playing in the triangle next to Jordan, yet you paint him as all but a failure. There's definitely some revisionist history going on here, but you're just as guilty as anyone.
The thing that most hurt from that Oakley deal was losing the draft rights to a PG by the name of Rod Strickland, who could've been a perfect piece to that Bulls team.
@@bobthabuilda1525 You are absolutely correct, that's a typo. Should've been 11, not 22. One finger off on the keys. BJ was capable of 20+ point nights, but he was also capable of 3-5 point nights.
As for Kukoc, I absolutely do not paint him as a failure. Kukoc had an excellent career and Chicago fans loved him. The fact remains that the perspective that the team had of Kukoc and of Krause constantly talking him up meant that they were sick of hearing about it. Pippen was asking why they were holding money for a guy who kept refusing to come to the team when they could be giving it to him. Krause mishandled the Kukoc situation with the team before Toni got there and it really was a strange and difficult situation for him once he did. He did have his ups and downs and once Rodman got there it meant Kukoc came off of the bench more. He may or may not have been unhappy with a bench role, but he never complained openly about it, but he got plenty of starts whenever Jordan, Pippen or Rodman weren't in the lineup for whatever reason.
However when Kukoc did come it did not turn out the way Krause imagined, with Kukoc as a 6'10" point guard in the vein of Magic Johnson. The coaching staff never even really tried it because it wasn't really necessary with the offense. Bigger players with guard skills always worked well in the triangle because then everything remains totally interchangeable and Kukoc fit right in. He had his lapses with the offense early on, but everyone did at first. Everyone did wish Kukoc was a little bit more of a bruiser than a finesse player at his size because he got beat up a bit too much at the 4 or 5, and if the lineup was Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc and Rodman, little fast guards and big centers were a problem. That's why Pippen was asked to do more of the power forward role that they lost with Horace leaving (rebounding and defense) before they got Rodman. Losing Horace was huge at the time.
There is no one thing to point at and blame for the end of it all. People want to demonize Krause (and I don't blame them) but it truly wasn't all him. People want to point to Reinsdorf, but it wasn't him at all. Jackson and Jordan wanted to keep going but it wasn't going to happen. Pippen just wanted to get paid what he was worth, but if they paid him he was more than happy to stay.
I just can't stand by and see people let Krause off the hook without pointing out everything that he did do, both good and bad, during the Jordan years. Overall, he made every decision that lead to six titles, except two: he didn't draft Jordan and he didn't bring back Phil Jackson (Reinsdorf did). By all means, give the man credit where it's due, but there's a reason he wasn't liked and Jerry Krause has no problem being disliked. If he had come along 30 years later than he did, he'd simply say: "Haters gonna hate".
@@SmoothCriminal12 I highly doubt they would've picked Strickland at that spot though. The Bulls were always drafting for size and mostly getting guards through free agency. At that point, Doug Collins basically considered Jordan to be the point guard of the team, so getting a ball dominant guard wouldn't have been a priority. I had to go back and look at the draft again, and if I had to make a guess based upon who came later I would guess Mark Bryant or Grant Long would've been the Bulls pick.
Coach making sure we all are entertained
Some Facts: Did you know during the Last Dance era 98 Bulls,
Manny Pacquiao was already a Boxing Champion?
Wow I didn't know that. Thanks for the trivia
Yes
...and he is still a Champ and listed in the Pound for Pound list 2020. Amazing Manny!
Adam Vinaterri was in the NFL
Great video coach Nick! Going beyond the obvious storyline of good/bad guys.
I'll never understand how people will say this guy destroyed the bulls dynasty... When HES THE ONE WHO CREATED THE DAMN DYNASTY
If you brought home a video game for the family to enjoy. Shouldn't you take the blame if you purposefully broke it too. Get outta his ass. He tried to bully his players into submission like a tyrant. That's why he earned every bit of hatred they gave back to him
It is possible to do both my man. Ever built something cool out of Lego? If not, try it and then tear it down.
@@BrawlerTM he was talking about Krause you moron.
There's no way your comment is serious because you can't be that oblivious. Just because you helped build something, definitely doesn't mean that you can't tear it apart yourself. I mean everyone from analysts and reporters to every player is giving their point of view about him tearing it apart
Fantastic breakdown. Thank you, coach.
It's not fair to blame Jerry. But I understand that many of these entertainment documentaries utilize that protagonist/antagonist dynamic for--you've guessed it--entertainment.
If he kept the team together there's a good chance they beat he Spurs in '99. Not sure if they'd have beaten them in '00 though.
@@Hotobu maybe...
yeah i felt that watching the doc, shit jerry even looks like a villain but it felt that it was too easy to make everyone else the protagonist while they basically made krause as the antagonist of the doc, kinda low and too easy to do that to a dead guy who cant counter argue, even if he was an asshole which honestly he looked like he was, everything we see in the doc is from the perspective of people that hated him.
Do part 2 next week on the Krause years after Jordan retired in 98 :) That rebuild was smooth ;)
Great vid 👍
Thank you for doing this. 👌 People are going too crazy on Jerry after the first two episodes. He made some great moves even though he was a bit too business for people’s liking.
Such a good narration
Jerry Krause can’t be given credit for getting Rodman on this team. He wanted no part of him on the bulls. He said so in an interview showed in the last dance
Jordan didn’t want Rodman either. But the bulls wouldn’t have won the last three championships without rodman
Shaquille OatMeal that wasn’t my point. What I’m saying is Jerry Krause wanted no part of Rodman so he should only really be given credit for listening to the person who actually brought up that suggestion. I’m talking about Jerry Krause
Coach, Kukoc along with the whole Yugoplastica team were huge in Europe. He was one of the best European players if not the best if you count Drazen out.
He was the best at that time. I lived in France then. He was box office
Your content is always A+ quality stuff and can't miss for serious hoop fans. With that said, would you consider updating your music? The same audio loops in all your videos get to be too much
Phil was rocking with those Bred 4 10:07
Well said
You don’t have to do this, the author already said as the documentary goes on , Krause gets his props. He just had to give the bad with the good
That video was great can you do one on red arubach
Nice vid
5:30 Holy mother of back to back travels
Joe Were how?
It's one travel (picking up his pivot foot). That hopstep wasn't one.
@@jhdivina On the hop step it looks like he takes the one step after the dribble then shuffles his feet for the 2nd and 3rd step before rising up. Wouldn't be a travel if he landed on both feet then went up
Well Jordan decided what’s being aired in the documentary so it’s pretty much Jordan’s revenge tour
It'd be a cool video to show how Rodman was really the catalyst for the second 3 peat and i don't even think him and MJ talked lol
Never heard Jordan laugh like that. That’s pretty awesome.
At least his laugh is better than Kawhi. 🤣
Building around a superstar is not an easy thing, we've seen many examples go awry. This was before the super team concept was fully formed. For Krause to identify and acquire necessary supporting pieces in creative moves, he deserves credit for.
To portray a negative documentary 25 years later after the Bulls era, after the supposed villain has passed away is really low. They had ample time to finish the documentary while Jerry was here. Kudos to BBALBREAKDOWN for an objective look at the man.
90s best decade of all time
For me, the 4 key Jerry Krause moves that finally earned Chicago the 3 straight NBA championships: #1 Traded Oakley for big man Bill Cartwright despite Oakley being the only protector of MJ. Jordan didnt like it but didnt necessarily disagreed. #2 Hiring Tex Winter as an assistant and appreciating what he brings to the table #3 He orchestrated the trade of big man Olden Polynice for an unknown college player who plays in the non major NCAA division who goes by the name of Scott Pippen and the rest is history. Finally, he fired Doug collins even though he was Jordan's favorite and promoted Phil Jackson who unlike his predecessor embraced Tex Winter's triangle offense. Jordan didn't want to reduce his offensive scoring at first be decided to adopt it for being criticized as a great individual player but could not reach the championship level of Magic and Bird. Phil made him understand that in reducing his scoring average would gain him more championship titles
Hi coach I've been thinking about this and it is good content for your channel.. i would love to see a game using old defense to today's players and ask them if what they feel about the 90's defense.
thanks!!!
I think he has an old video for that. Try looking it up.
Nice one coach. Even he was part of the chemistry I guess, albeit someone the team may have hated but bonded upon nonetheless.
Coming out from 4 episodes, I can just say that MJ was and is the greatest player on that hardwood. But outside of that, he was far from the best person. And that team was legendary in every aspect. But it was more a collection of players than a team. You can sense that so many players are not happy talking about that period.
And it was foolery on Reinsdorf's part to not pay Pippen more. He thought he made a great business deal. I can see where Pippen came from. He could not demand high money, and yes he made that mistake of signing the deal for 7 years. But if you want to be an organisation that cares for your players, you increase their salary. What Reinsdorf effectively said was, if you're not Jordan, I don't care about your money. And we can see now why no top name free agent has ever joined the Bulls.
so true - as it seems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’d be interested in a video on the triangle offense, how it works, why it worked so well for the bulls and the lakers but didn’t work for the Knicks
coach already did how triangle offense in bulls few video back..
and how its didnt work for kniks you ask? easy.. melo isnt as intense/good as kobe/jordan.. as much as how good porzingis is.. he aint no shaq/scotie pippen..and the rest is just garbage..
It relies of movement and a lot of passing. Dennis rodman breaks it down on TH-cam.
Coach Nick: calls Phil Jackson the greatest coach of all time.
Gregg Poppovich: Am I a joke to you?
3 peats with 2 different teams
@Steve.josiah Aquino Phil Jackson had way more stars. MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Shaq, Kobe... the amount of talent he had was off the charts.
Popovich only had a legit superstar in Duncan. Parker and Manu were nobodys when they first got picked up and he gave him the system and opportunity to develop them into hall of famers.
@Steve.josiah Aquino in terms of talent coached, Phil Jackson hit the jackpot on 3 separate occasions.
Popovich is up there among the all-time greats, but he has some holes in his resume, too. You can argue that the 2019 World Cup team was the weakest assembly of NBA talent in world competition, but they had more than enough talent to win it all. Losing four straight after taking 2-0 leads in 2004 and 2012 doesn't bode well. Losing to the 8-seed in 2011 was the first time a team had done so in a best-of-seven format, and it wasn't particularly close, and there were no injuries to SA.
Don't get me wrong, five NBA titles speaks for itself, and any head coach who gets there is doing a lot of great things. But for all of Popovich's success, he does have a handful of infamous playoff series on his resume that would get a lot of coaches into hot water.
@Steve.josiah Aquino oh yeah because Jackson just coached the greatest player of all time, the most dominant player of all time, Kobe Bryant, Scottie Pippen. Nothing too special.
Phill Jackson comes out of this so far looking like a really thoughtful guy.
#17 looks like lebron's dad 2:02
His actual dad? Or hypothetical dad?
@@ChrisDodges123 guess
@CraigVader lol
CraigVader they been in those guts
And here's the fun fact, did you know that the name of MJ's dad is James?
Coincidence? Maybe.
Really niceo video. I was born in 2003, so The Last Dance, along with your videos and Eleven Rings by Phil Jackson, is really giving me a lot of insight into an amazing basketball dynasty and into whom I consider to be the greatest player of all time: Michael Jordan.
Keep up the good work!
Krause is an indifferent GM who had the luck to draft two hall-of-fame talents within 2 years of each other. That good fortune covered up a lot of his mistakes, of which he had as many of as any other GM. Because, as it turns out, you can't scout *character*, and that, as much as talent, is what separates the superstars from the busts. Krause could have been remembered as a great GM, if only he had the sense to keep his mouth shut, and stop trying to take credit for his players' accomplishments.
The only problem I have with MJ is the fact he was body shaming Krause. That's wrong no matter who you are. But he is the 🐐
When MJ was the player he wanted to be a GM. Now when he's a GM he'd wish he was a player 😂🤣😂
Krause lured Toni Kukoc for 3 years to come to Bulls! Toni gave interview about Krause here in Croatia on croatian lenguage..i will translate it and type it here...ITS REALLY INTERESTING!
where is the translation dude
Jerry Gets a lot of hate from the media, people and players for “splitting the team “and stopping the bulls team winning more than 6 championships. Yet, they don’t give him credit for making sure the team stuck together for atleast 6 rings!!! The Bulls could’ve easily won less rings... but he did what thought was best and played it right for the team to be able to win 6 rings. He was correct organizations win rings not players. All the way down from the owner, players, coaches etc....
I think it's more of a case that organizations win multiple rings. He deserves a ton of credit for building the team, but he's just as much at-fault for the demise of the team. Ultimately, the conflict surrounding the team centred around Krause's conflicts with Jackson, Pippen and Jordan. Imagine what would've happened if Reinsdorf fired Krause and replaced him with a GM that was willing to just keep rolling with the team until the wheels came off. Could they have won a 7th? Maybe an 8th?
Granted, Reinsdorf may have wanted to blow up the team knowing that Pippen was going to demand A TON of money. The salary cap rules were a little weird at the time and it could also be the case that Krause was just the scapegoat to protect him and his money.
MJ’s nickname for Cartwright was “Medical Bill.”
Underpaying pippen was the best thing ever.
Pippen, gets paid a lot of money anyway, gets his family ok, gets his career going, has drive.
Bulls have more money, they give to jordan and have a cap to bring in other players...even if it was on pippens salary behest, but...
But pippen did in fact got his name up top and signed on AFTER the bulls for very good contracts.
In the end he DID end up winning (from the game, not endorsements etc) MORE money than michael jordan ever did.
In fact, just compare what wilt chamberlain earn vs every other player when the money started rising.
legend says pippen told his opponents on any of the finals that they just want it to be one way, but that its the other way.
Rest in Peace Jerry.
Ppl are forgetting Micheal Jordan helped scottie to become a better player.
Only lebronsexuals forget that.
@@wellyforpm yeah they discredit MJ and give Pip the credit by saying Pip contributed more than MJ based on stats.
I said it from the beginning that while he wasn't 100% wrong that he deserved some credit, he wasn't 100% right either. Yes he deserves credit for putting the team together but the guys he brings in still have to perform. He did get the right supporting cast for MJ though hell yeah he deserves his props for that. However, no one should ever do a job for the sake of recognition. Of course you have every right to enjoy getting recognized, but if that's your ultimate goal, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. The Bulls definitely had a shot at least one more championship in 1999 had it not been for Jerry Krause's ego. Do I think they would've beaten the Spurs? Honestly, it was too close to call since while Michael Jordan was 36 that year, he obviously still had a lot left in the tank winning the MVP and Finals MVP in 1998. Scottie Pippen was on the decline by then though but he still would've at least brought enough stability to help the Bulls reach the Finals. The Bulls didn't have much inside presence and that's where Tim Duncan and David Robinson definitely would've given them problems. Sure they would've still had Dennis Rodman, but even for him, there's only so much he could do and while David Robinson was no longer MVP material, he was still a solid player. Experience and Michael Jordan would be on the Bulls side so I think that series could've gone either way. With an 8th seeded Knicks being the Eastern Conference champions that year though, worst case scenario for the Bulls had they not broken up clearly would've been losing in the Finals. After the 1999-2000 season should've been when they could consider rebuilding since MJ was 37, Pippen's not the same player anymore and the league belonged to Shaq and Kobe. I'm not so sure the Bulls would've even beaten the Pacers in 2000 had they stuck together but they absolutely would not have beaten the Lakers in the Finals regardless of which side Phil Jackson is on.
Man MJ reminds me so much like Kobe at the beginning of the video
Kobe should remind you of MJ (that is just how it goes). RIP Mamba
All fine but did i hear well at the end? Best coach of all time? Red Auerbach has something to say about it
Krause even said he didnt even WANT Rodman lol...
can you an updated explanation of the triangle offense using film from the bulls and lakers.
Jerry Krause ws great GM in my opinion
Are you a white man?
Good GM, terrible person. When it came to the actual job he was pretty good finding players in the draft and at trades, but when it came to interacting with any of those players all he did was piss them off
Without Krause, Doug Collins would have still been the coach and letting MJ score 50 with possibly no rings.
Totally agree. There wouldn't be a 3peat nor a Championship team if Krause didn't put in the little details.
u mean a certain james harden now? scoring titles and no rings
Huiwei Zhuang Harden doesn’t know the meaning of defense.
It is not even Phil who invented the Triangle offense. All along people praise him of that. You really can't believe everything that media says.
Losing Oakley wasn't a big deal since they had Grant but what really stunk was not retaining the draft rights to non other than Rod Strickland, who I think would have fit very well next to MJ
Strickland was a ball dominant guard, not a great shooter. the template that worked with both Pippen and Jordan was player that could make open shots it is why Longley was important, why Perdue, Paxon and Kerr were important They did not have to take many shots but they needed to make them.
Both Pippen and Jordan were ball dominant even in the Triangle offence I don't see even a good passing guard working with Jordan.
I suspect if it had have happened Strickland would be on the bench
I knew the down the road..somehow someway.. Kraus would have to be given props for creating the team. Building it however was a toal team effort.
No! Krause was there to execute Reinsdorf interest, and that is to draft or sign cheap players or coaches that just fit the profile. When players become expensive, trade follows regardless whether they contributed to winning the championship.
At the end of the day Krause put enough key pieces together to win 6 championships. His personnel management of staff and players once they were on the team were poor, and potentially this cost the Bulls a 7th or even 8th championship. But thats all speculation and the owner Reinsdorf is the one who takes ultimate responsibility for disbanding the team. He was too cheap to stump up cash for players. He didnt control Krause when it was evident after the 5th chip that Krause no longer belonged. And Reinsdorf after having 6 rings was content with that success and prioritized saving money. He literally did NOTHING other than hire Krause that helped the Bulls win.
He did a fantastic job in assembling a dynasty but he also pulled the plugged
Well, the Jason Caffey trade to GSW was a mistake. Rodman saw him as his next apparent.
An instrumental part of constructing 2 threepeats with the Bulls. Do you know would have loved Jerry Kruase as his GM for the first part of his career, LEBRON JAMES. If you look at the inept GMing in Cleveland and how LeBron didn't get any help at all, his career could have been different with a good front office.
Perdue was vital ??? When ??? How ???
It's really complicated. On the one hand, it should have been very easy to throw Krause a bone every once in a while. On the other, Phil used Krause to galvanize the team. But I agree with this video... Krause is an incredibly unsung hero in this, and there's an alternate reality where Jordan has a terrible GM where he ends up with no Scottie and much less than 6 chips. If Lebron had a GM like Krause, maybe he would've never left Cleveland, and his entire career is looked at very differently. Jordan does show he's pretty immature to not let a little fat man have some cake at the table too. Especially when that little fat man could run circles around him when we compare MJ's managing track record vs Krause.
You'd think MJ would appreciate Krause with his failing debacle at Charlotte. But nope, he still just goes on about how Krause was wrong, about how Pippen was selfish, and so on and so forth
Jerry Krause’s was and is the best the bulls had ever seen though
Guys lets give credit to person who really deserve it.
Bron Bron must be getting more & more insecure after every MJ episode here haha!
that pair of sneakers with the suit is so ahead of time trendy!
yep perfect triangle of 90s krause, phil, and jordan.
if losing isnt the way the game is meant to be played what in gods name is going on in Charlotte, MJ?
MJ thinks management is like playing. A team has different egos and personalities to be managed and you can't terrorise your players into practising.
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Trading Oakley was always a bad move and the bulls won despite that move
Any one watching episode 3 and 4 tonight?
MJ for the win!
He gets a lot of credit but he already had Michael and Michael Jordan made those players great!
we only see krause this way cause mj wants us to...
Scottie Pippen eventually became the POINT FORWARD so Jordan could roam OFF-THE-BALL, searching for sweet spots on the floor.
Jerry Krause was a decent GM, MJ was the best player, Phil Jackson one of the best coaches. Best players and coaches get the best out of the players around them. Although I don't compare LeBron and MJ but for context here, I don't see a lot of people crediting the GMs for performances by Delly, Tristan Thompson, JR Smith and even players in his older Heat teams. Lot of LeBron's teammates didn't do that well with other teams. Heck Rodman was good only with Isiah Thomas, Chuck Daly and those Pistons and MJ, Phil Jackson and those Bulls. Even Pop couldn't handle and use Rodman properly. The best players and leaders get the best out of the people around them so another GM could also have surrounded MJ with decent players to ultimately win with
The Bulls got 2 second round picks for Dave Corzine??? Lol, wow!!!
5:31 clear travel?
Yeah
Thought this as soon as I saw it too
I don’t think he took a dribble before so he was allowed to move
YoungNat he lifted both his feet before dribbling which is illegal
Some brilliant moves but lost Rod Strickland? That’s big.
So basically, this is an analysis of another analysis.
Jerry Krause carried MJ #Facts
Jerry Kraus couldn't pick up a cat.....
What the fuck is up with the comments? There IS no "villain" or "good guy". This isn't a God-damn comic book. This is real life.
Rockie coach Phil wins tittles
Rockie coach Steve Kerr also wins tittles
All connected to MJ 🤔🤔🤔
Coach nick, what nba team do you support?
Bassem Saghir the Tampa Sunlights
The one that plays like a team!
BBALLBREAKDOWN oh the spurs?
What did krause accomplished since MJ left? 0 nadaaaa. MJ was the reason players even wanted to play with the bulls.
He actually did pick a number of very good players, they just didn’t keep them all together
Almost every single year, Krause drafted or signed useless power forwards hoping to find a diamond in the rough that he could take credit for discovering and molding. Jason Caffey, Dickey Simpkins, Corie Blount, Stacey King, Brad Sellers, Jeff Sanders, Greg Foster, Larry Krystkowiak, Jack Haley, Mark Randall, Ed Nealy, Joe Courtney, Scott Williams, Cliff Levingston... He either got them too early and let them go for little to no return, or got them long after they were serviceable
@@bballbreakdown he still is average at best and made the worst move in nba front office history.
He took it personal, which is the worst thing you could do from a business standpoint.
If anybody else was the GM of the bulls they would've held that team together and sold out tickets for 2 to 3 more years. Instead they chose to "rebuild" and became one of the worst franchises for 2 decades. Not counting the 3 yrs rose gave them.
don't be fooled. BB is just ridding on the coat tail of the last dance. You won't find them because he censors them but BB has in harsh words, puts down MJ and the entire era in an effort to make the modern NBA more relevant which is the topic of the vast majority of his videos.
I miss when u can look at thumbnails without the video playing,its like forced to watch now smh
Pippen was underpaid because of his own fault!!!!! I hate how no one holds him even partially accountable. He admitted he wanted the financial security so he signed a contract that would pay him now but undervalue him later, the same thing ronald acuna did for the Braves. He could have played the market but he wanted the security of a long contract. That's his fault, jerry Krause shouldn't have to worry about scottie until the contract is up or close to finished. Scottie literally wanted security and after 3 years when he realized wow I can make so much more he complained and got jealous of others. THATS HIS OWN DAMN FAULT.
My big takeaway from the docu.. Scott Burrell
Bill catwright avg 20 as a rookie and make the all star in nyk, he was nice in the 80s majority just know him being a avg bulls, draymond would be destroyed by majority of 5 of that time, let alone barkley, isay it cause of draymond disrespecting Charles
That was before he got injured. He wasn't the same player when he got to the Bulls.
all this reminds me of a little masai ujiri
what?