I think, in real life, Flamengo and Palmeiras would be solid mid table teams in the Prem, and the others would be yo-yo clubs(although Flu has a very strong attack, Cano, Lelê, Marcelo, Ganso, and Keno)
Flamengo, Palmeiras and Fluminense would contend for Top 5 and most of the others would be mid table... We cannot think those 3 are worse than Tottenham and Newcastle for example
@@giovanigoncalves7089 cara tu é completamente maluco se tu acha que o flamengo atual, que perdeu pro BOTAFOGO é melhor que o time do Newcastle. Até o Tottenham que tá em crise, de um lado o Gabigol trocentos jogos sem fazer gol com bola rolando, do outro o HARRY KANE
I think Brazilian football has a very high floor but not a high ceiling, realistically all clubs would be like Crystal Palace in terms of generally surviving the Prem but never being great, with the top 3 in Flamengo, Palmeiras and Fluminense competing for UEL.
Athletico Paranaense is THE moneyball team of Brazil. Probably the most interesting club there to follow nowadays, they're always coming up with new stuff. Shame there's no way to follow the club in English.
Athletico is decent but if you are looking for a club to follow just go for Palmeiras Palmeiras is just like C.A.P except that they are richer, being honest there Even their stadiums look alike
Yeah, that's exactly I though, he forgot to swap stadiums and facilities between the teams, so all of the 12 teams were doing half of their games in the UK and the other half in Brazil, that's not cost effective at all and most likely hurt their physical conditions between matches. I would like to see it fully swapped between them as a more reasonable test.
Really good video again mate. Up the imps. Would love a Lincoln livestream after you’ve gone bankrupt, either that or with the same backing as Wrexham. LNER is a great stadium to play at despite the name.
Hi Tom, I love your content but sometimes I feel like you don’t know crucial things for these experiments. I think with me are a lot of people that knew Brazilian teams cannot have that many foreigners in their team and I feel like you should have edited the English clubs squads so the players would all be Brazilian, to give them a fair chance to compete. If you do something like this again maybe it’s worth it to do a test run beforehand and actually take charge of a switched team for a few months before you start the actual experiment, because then you can be aware of these things. I have seen other cases where I felt like you should have known something before the experiment and it ended up having an impact on the outcome (I can’t remember right now but I’m sure you do). Again I love your content, it’s very creative and I understand how much time goes in it, but this is just a small tip. Keep up the great content ❤
wtf? this doesn't even make sense, why he would change the squads of the english clubs? the objective is clear here, and is about THE BRAZILIAN CLUBS and see if they can survive in the Premier league.... About the foreigners, they are not in BRAZIL LEAGUE!!! THIS IS FUCKING OBVIOUS, they are in Premier League, sooooo is common to them make some transfers and renovate the squad.
Lol the video is about Brazilian clubs at Premier League, not English teams at Brasileirão. This mean the rules are the ones we see in Premier League, so idk wht u mean abt not allowing foreigner players, it makes no sense
Europeans think that the Brazilian Football Championship is slow, they don't understand that Brazilian states are bigger than European countries, Brazilian clubs usually travel 8 thousand km between matches, which means that, with a favorable score, the players have They have to play at a slower pace to preserve themselves physically. .
@@willywonka7812 but that's not the only problem with his pronunciation. He says something like pal-mee-ras but it should be pal-may-ras, the "ei" is read like in "may", "say", "day".
Tom did you take into account the Foreign Players limitations in Brazil? Until last year it was only 5 foreigners in the 23-man match squad. Maybe that's why the English teams went so bad in the Brazilian League.
Now in 2023 Brazilian teams can have 7 foreign players, they changed the rule because many foreign players are going to play in Brazil and this season of the Brasileirão promises
that idea of changing the top6 of both leagues is nice if you come to think that all the big six are better than the top 6 from brazil, so if they lost every game against liverpool, united, city, chelsea, spurs and arsenal in prem, each one would have failed to win 36 points by losing 2 games against each one of the big six so, if they didnt have to compete against them, maybe they would finish on ucl spots and maybe even win the league great video mate, would love to see this idea on a part2 of brazilian experiment maybe all the love from brazil 🎉
They did, however I think it took away from the overall flow of the video and for non-Brazilians could be a bit complicated to follow so left it out. Maybe next time!
@@TomFM i see, but my doubt is that's tournaments overflow the calendar and the Brazilian trips much more, and is play in beginning of the year, when the players must be in vacation However, great vídeo Tom, keep the amazing job
As a Brazilian and flamengo fan, I feel that flamengo, palmeiras and present day fluminense (not the one from last season) would finish at least top 10-12 in the premier league. It's a very competitive league with different challenges such as absurd travel distances, short space between games, different conditions state to state and little time to train. Also, great to see that flamengo wasn't relegated for the whole challenge, much like in real life where we've never been relegated from any competition!
That's an amazing experiment, but I feel it missed some in depth information. If the teams kept their regular players or they've changed their roster too much, if they kept receiving broadcast rights from Brazil or from PL. When it comes to money, I ended up having so many questions. Flamengo is the richest team in Brazil, mostly because of our supporters, but comparatively to PL teams, our entire league worth less than the top 2 from Prem. This has to do a lot with exchange rates and all, but it's quite impressive that they even had a fighting chance. Maybe you should do it again, Brazilian public on TH-cam is massive. But maybe you should try to go a bit more into their finances, rosters, movements, because that's the type of stuff we want to see.
Idk if you’ve done it yet Tom but you should give the Czechs a mega tv deal, Sparta has been a very fun save this year and I’m getting sick of having no money
Would love to see you do a combination experiment so for example add the English and Spanish league structures together and put teams in league structure based on reputation
I think next time you do this, try to change player's second nationality, so them they would be available to play. Like, adding an english nationality to all players from brazilian teams in the UK, and brazilian nationality to all players from english clubs in Brazil. As a brazilian football fan and football manager player i love this video. Thanks mate. Keep the good work
Relaxa, athletico ta em uma crescente absurdo, logo estaremos falando que no Brasil tem 13 Grandes, nao 12. Enquanto isso o principal rival vive de ser rebaixado
just one thing to correct is that the Brazilian championship does not always show the strength of Brazilian teams, as it is a long championship and does not have much relevance beyond the title, many teams end up neglecting the Brazilian championship to focus on other competitions such as the Brazilian Cup , Copa Libertadores and Copa Sulamericana, where you will have a better return financially.
Ha, so Scarpa and Danilo got shipped out of the premier league despite moving from Palmerias to Forest but given that they already had 5 Brazilian players ( or did you not have the Jan transfer window included?) i dont understand that foreign player issue????? For Forest
there is an brasilian ex-player and sports commentator named Carlos Alberto, he once said if Real Madrid and Barcelona played in the Brasileirão they wouldn't even finish top 6, after that he said Real wouldn't even win Brasileirão Série B, you could test it and see if Carlos Alberto is actually right
Real Madrid would win in Serie B easily. But there's one thing that I think there's not unbeatable; Much more hot matches that could affect fitness (specially 11am); The big travels between like Juventude from South-Sampaio Correia from Northeast that is likely a big trip in Europe (maybe Lisbon-Moscow distancewise); The fields aren't great; And maybe they lose some games; But I think talentwise the disparity is big - and for Madrid rn - they have 3 Brazilians, 1 Uruguayan that knows how to play those fields.
Just traveling the distance of the whole country or even the continent weekly to play Libertadores, in the Brazilian climate, they would already change drastically.
Can you keep this series coming? Maybe you could put some top Turkish clubs in see how galatasaray and fenerhache do, or possibly like some rich Saudi clubs?
Travel costs isn't a problem for Brazilian teams.Transport tickets per kilometer/mile in Brazil are more expensive, and brazilian territory is some dozen times the UK one.
The funny part is that people that are not from Brazil think that only Palmeiras and Flamengo are good, because today these two teams are rly good. But talking about history, and recent history too, they weren't that good. Corinthians is the biggest winner of this century, inclusing the clubs WC against Chelsea in 2012, São Paulo had a very strong team back in 2005, winning 3 times in a row the brazilian national league and clubs WC against liverpool. Internacional won it too in 2006 against Barcelona
@@black.listed yeah fr Europeans it's an easy competition, and that's why they're planning to chance it, it will be harder, just like the world cup. But even with being 2 matches only, it's hard for the non European teams, we give it a high value, and it needs to be like this
@@billyhoggins3661 nah, both palmeiras and flamengo have pretty good squads irl, and with good managers they showed that ( palmeiras under abel, flamengo under jorge jesus, both played great football )
Hi Tom, could you maybe try switching the bottom 10 of the Championship with the top 10 of MLS? I feel like that’s where there’s a bit of parity. Not sure how good FM23 is at managing the East/West conference system in MLS, but would be interesting to see if the worst Championship teams could compete for MLS titles, Open Cups, and CONCACAF champs league titles; and see if any of the MLS clubs can get themselves established in the PL.
As a brazilian, I'm really happy with this video! Especially because I'm a Flamengo fan. I really think that Palmeiras and Flamengo could do well in the Premier League in real life, these two teams have a great squad and lots of money, I feel like they could battle for european places regularly.
Doubt it, nothing against either of those teams in fact I’ve watched both teams live and had a great time at the games when I travelled around Brazil but the top 6 is just too good for them to get in there.
@@SebRodriguez-t8b Fair enough. I still think that Flamengo and Palmeiras can perform the same level as Aston Villa or Brighton (maybe even Tottenham today?) and fight for those European places, but maybe you're right. I guess we'll ever know 😅
@@David-qq9bk This is a simple question of economics, whoever has more money buys better players... Europeans are filled with south american, african and even a number of asian players. In order to compete regularly, they would have equal economic conditions, and could, for example, avoid selling players who today leave for better salaries and career conditions. The differentiating factor IS money.
Bro no joke, I think palmeiras and this season's Fluminense would be top 10 teams in every league in europe besides EPL. And if we are talking about Portugal and Netherlands I say they could fight for the title. Flamengo on it's best season was a problem for Liverpool to beat. Those are rock solid teams. If they get to play more often against european teams (they barely have the opportunity to do so) they can adapt and evolve really fast
Europeans think that the Brazilian Football Championship is slow, they don't understand that Brazilian states are bigger than European countries, Brazilian clubs usually travel 8 thousand km between matches, which means that, with a favorable score, the players have They have to play at a slower pace to preserve themselves physically. .
Palmeiras, Flamengo and this season's Fluminense could fight for Champions League spots in any European League except in the Premier, and could even fight for the title in countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Turkey. The thing is, the only time we see Brazilian clubs facing European sides is in the Club World Cup, but then it's a squad that in theory is the best in Europe for that year. But I doubt these clubs would struggle playing against any club that isn't one of those that we put as likely of winning the Champions League
Europeans think that the Brazilian Football Championship is slow, they don't understand that Brazilian states are bigger than European countries, Brazilian clubs usually travel 8 thousand km between matches, which means that, with a favorable score, the players have They have to play at a slower pace to preserve themselves physically. .
So, even in the Premier League, Flamengo kept its reputation of never being relegated! That brings some warmth to us, the supporters =) (Btw, Tom, aside from Flamengo, only Santos and São Paulo can boast that deed)
As a Brazilian I loved to see it, thanks Tom
Glad you enjoyed the video!
PALMEIRAS NAO TEM MUNDIAL
@@jucalebre7540 e 87 é do Sport
@@brunomoscozo fodasse vcs dois o maior do brasil é o vasco
@@jucalebre7540vc não tem pai e ngm sai por ai dizendo
É só colocar Brasil no título que a gente toma conta dos comentários 🇧🇷
Sim, isso se chama complexo de vira casca
Br é carente demais. Que coisa.
4:09 Abel Ferreira no Athletico Paranaense jogando a 2° Divisão da Premier Ligue...
would be cool to see how this would play out without the travel costs
yeah, it's ridiculous the fact that he did it without moving the clubs to england
I'd like to see how the top 20 clubs ( one club from each nation ) would do in the Premier League ( so essentially a mini world super league )
Do an Iberian league , mix the top 10 Portuguese clubs with the top 10 Spanish leagues please. 😊
I think, in real life, Flamengo and Palmeiras would be solid mid table teams in the Prem, and the others would be yo-yo clubs(although Flu has a very strong attack, Cano, Lelê, Marcelo, Ganso, and Keno)
Flamengo, Palmeiras and Fluminense would contend for Top 5 and most of the others would be mid table... We cannot think those 3 are worse than Tottenham and Newcastle for example
@@giovanigoncalves7089 cara tu é completamente maluco se tu acha que o flamengo atual, que perdeu pro BOTAFOGO é melhor que o time do Newcastle. Até o Tottenham que tá em crise, de um lado o Gabigol trocentos jogos sem fazer gol com bola rolando, do outro o HARRY KANE
@@luiseduardo4748 respeita o Botafogo, ele ganharia a Premier League
I think Brazilian football has a very high floor but not a high ceiling, realistically all clubs would be like Crystal Palace in terms of generally surviving the Prem but never being great, with the top 3 in Flamengo, Palmeiras and Fluminense competing for UEL.
@@perfumedozap Atlético Mineiro,botafogo and vasco are better than crystal palace
It would be fair for the English teams to remove the rule of foreign players in the Brazilian league. Only that way we would know the true potential
This.
as a brazilian and a Palmeiras fan, i loved it man
Athletico Paranaense is THE moneyball team of Brazil. Probably the most interesting club there to follow nowadays, they're always coming up with new stuff. Shame there's no way to follow the club in English.
That's cool, I'll have to do some deep dives into their strategy
you dont know shit bout brazilian football hahaha
Athletico is decent but if you are looking for a club to follow just go for Palmeiras
Palmeiras is just like C.A.P except that they are richer, being honest there
Even their stadiums look alike
@Awesonimals if you want to follow a demoted team that got fraudulent investments from a suspicious Bank, money laundry, yeah go with palmeiras.
@@awesonimals1216 their stadiums have nothing to do with each other man, you trippin lol
As an Internacional supporter I hoped for a better run. At least we got back up to prem at the end! Never give up and DALE INTER!!
Could it be an idea of "moving" the stadiums closer too. £10M a season on travel wouldn't have helped them.
Yeah, that's exactly I though, he forgot to swap stadiums and facilities between the teams, so all of the 12 teams were doing half of their games in the UK and the other half in Brazil, that's not cost effective at all and most likely hurt their physical conditions between matches.
I would like to see it fully swapped between them as a more reasonable test.
I love FM videos with Bazilian clubs (0:01)
Tom, you just invoked us all. Congrats. 🇧🇷
Really good video again mate. Up the imps. Would love a Lincoln livestream after you’ve gone bankrupt, either that or with the same backing as Wrexham. LNER is a great stadium to play at despite the name.
Hi Tom, I love your content but sometimes I feel like you don’t know crucial things for these experiments. I think with me are a lot of people that knew Brazilian teams cannot have that many foreigners in their team and I feel like you should have edited the English clubs squads so the players would all be Brazilian, to give them a fair chance to compete. If you do something like this again maybe it’s worth it to do a test run beforehand and actually take charge of a switched team for a few months before you start the actual experiment, because then you can be aware of these things. I have seen other cases where I felt like you should have known something before the experiment and it ended up having an impact on the outcome (I can’t remember right now but I’m sure you do). Again I love your content, it’s very creative and I understand how much time goes in it, but this is just a small tip. Keep up the great content ❤
Good thing it wasn't an English clubs in Brazilian league experiment 🥴 who cares
wtf? this doesn't even make sense, why he would change the squads of the english clubs? the objective is clear here, and is about THE BRAZILIAN CLUBS and see if they can survive in the Premier league....
About the foreigners, they are not in BRAZIL LEAGUE!!! THIS IS FUCKING OBVIOUS, they are in Premier League, sooooo is common to them make some transfers and renovate the squad.
Lol the video is about Brazilian clubs at Premier League, not English teams at Brasileirão. This mean the rules are the ones we see in Premier League, so idk wht u mean abt not allowing foreigner players, it makes no sense
Europeans think that the Brazilian Football Championship is slow, they don't understand that Brazilian states are bigger than European countries, Brazilian clubs usually travel 8 thousand km between matches, which means that, with a favorable score, the players have They have to play at a slower pace to preserve themselves physically. .
thanks from brazil, tom!
It is funny that there is the existence of a "Palmeiras Mafia" inside FM, 'cause there is a Palmeiras Mafia in real life, it's name is "Crefisa"
I hope they don't find me...
@@TomFM 💀
Engole o choro
Appreciate the experiment with Brazilian football, Tom!
Wow, very cool video love it !
You absolute madlad, you actually went for it that was awesome to see how the clubs got on, very nice!
I loved watching videos from my home country... put all the teams from the Brazilian series in the English second division, it will be cool
Hi, Tom. As of this season, the Brazilian League (Serie A) allowed seven foreign players per team.
Tom, I love to see how about two minutes into this video you manage to sort out your pronunciation of Palmeiras!
Temporarily. And then Fluminense got repeatedly mangled
What? He completely butchered every single time he said Palmeiras
@@yvltc there was one or two times when he didn't put the I after the R, after a couple of minutes, but he reverted to butchery shortly after
@@willywonka7812 but that's not the only problem with his pronunciation. He says something like pal-mee-ras but it should be pal-may-ras, the "ei" is read like in "may", "say", "day".
@@yvltc ah ok, well I assumed that palmeeras was as correct as it was likely to get for an anglophone 😆
Tom, come to Brazil!
half of the £11m travel cost was trains to the north
Another Great video bro
Tom did you take into account the Foreign Players limitations in Brazil?
Until last year it was only 5 foreigners in the 23-man match squad. Maybe that's why the English teams went so bad in the Brazilian League.
That is definitely the reason, I imagine they were playing greyed out players for the most part
Now in 2023 Brazilian teams can have 7 foreign players, they changed the rule because many foreign players are going to play in Brazil and this season of the Brasileirão promises
You should send this video to the brazilian journalists who think flamengo would fight for a ucl spot
that idea of changing the top6 of both leagues is nice
if you come to think that all the big six are better than the top 6 from brazil, so if they lost every game against liverpool, united, city, chelsea, spurs and arsenal in prem, each one would have failed to win 36 points by losing 2 games against each one of the big six
so, if they didnt have to compete against them, maybe they would finish on ucl spots and maybe even win the league
great video mate, would love to see this idea on a part2 of brazilian experiment maybe
all the love from brazil 🎉
it would be fairer if they removed Brazilian players from European clubs
In Brazil the clubs play a tournament for every state, in the Premier League they still plays in this tournaments?
They did, however I think it took away from the overall flow of the video and for non-Brazilians could be a bit complicated to follow so left it out. Maybe next time!
@@TomFM i see, but my doubt is that's tournaments overflow the calendar and the Brazilian trips much more, and is play in beginning of the year, when the players must be in vacation
However, great vídeo Tom, keep the amazing job
Another great video Tom
As a Brazilian and flamengo fan, I feel that flamengo, palmeiras and present day fluminense (not the one from last season) would finish at least top 10-12 in the premier league. It's a very competitive league with different challenges such as absurd travel distances, short space between games, different conditions state to state and little time to train. Also, great to see that flamengo wasn't relegated for the whole challenge, much like in real life where we've never been relegated from any competition!
TOM, LOVE YOUR VIDEOS FROM ISRAEL!
KEEP DOING THOSE SIMULATIONS!!!!
man as a brazilian, this video is sick!!!! subcribed 🎉
O malvado é incaível até na Premier League
UMA VEZ FLAMENGO, SEMPRE FLAMENGO
Tem mais flamenguistas do que a população inteira da inglaterra, exquece
@@DefensorLF o numero de terceirizados do flamidia não chega nem perto
@@davib.almeida3613 esquece o flamengo kkkk chore por outra coisa
@@DefensorLF chorar ? O Flamengo atualmente só me da motivos para rir
I think there are many football fans in Brazil very curious to know the performance of their teams in the new clubs world cup.
That's an amazing experiment, but I feel it missed some in depth information. If the teams kept their regular players or they've changed their roster too much, if they kept receiving broadcast rights from Brazil or from PL. When it comes to money, I ended up having so many questions. Flamengo is the richest team in Brazil, mostly because of our supporters, but comparatively to PL teams, our entire league worth less than the top 2 from Prem. This has to do a lot with exchange rates and all, but it's quite impressive that they even had a fighting chance.
Maybe you should do it again, Brazilian public on TH-cam is massive. But maybe you should try to go a bit more into their finances, rosters, movements, because that's the type of stuff we want to see.
LETS GOOOOO PALMEIRAS SUPPORTER HEREEEEEE 😂😂😂😂 AMAZING EXPERIENCE TOM, THANKS!!!
hey how do i move clubs into diffrent leagues ?
Palmeiras in the thumbnail. You just made me weirdly happy.
also you mispelled Brazillian in the start of the video
Idk if you’ve done it yet Tom but you should give the Czechs a mega tv deal, Sparta has been a very fun save this year and I’m getting sick of having no money
Judging by the fact that out of those 6 teams Flamengo is the only one that was never relegated in Brazil, that seems about right.
Flamengo is like that, if it is well managed it can compete very well but the guys who are currently in charge there are the worst possible
How about a video with 3 teams only consisting players with full mental vs technical vs physical abilities? 😊👍
Would love to see you do a combination experiment so for example add the English and Spanish league structures together and put teams in league structure based on reputation
I think next time you do this, try to change player's second nationality, so them they would be available to play. Like, adding an english nationality to all players from brazilian teams in the UK, and brazilian nationality to all players from english clubs in Brazil.
As a brazilian football fan and football manager player i love this video. Thanks mate. Keep the good work
As an Athletico fan, this video broke my heart
Kkkkk 😂
Relaxa, athletico ta em uma crescente absurdo, logo estaremos falando que no Brasil tem 13 Grandes, nao 12. Enquanto isso o principal rival vive de ser rebaixado
You should do 1.8b TV Deal with the greek league, it could be interesting because they are doing well in your experiments😅😅
just one thing to correct is that the Brazilian championship does not always show the strength of Brazilian teams, as it is a long championship and does not have much relevance beyond the title, many teams end up neglecting the Brazilian championship to focus on other competitions such as the Brazilian Cup , Copa Libertadores and Copa Sulamericana, where you will have a better return financially.
I havent seen it yet but my like is ther3 already. This ought to be good! 😂
Ha, so Scarpa and Danilo got shipped out of the premier league despite moving from Palmerias to Forest but given that they already had 5 Brazilian players ( or did you not have the Jan transfer window included?) i dont understand that foreign player issue????? For Forest
You should do it with the 5 big teams of Argentina (Boca, River, Independiente, Racing and San Lorenzo)
Well, im Brazilian and Yuri Alberto is not even in top 30 on best players brasileirão
Flamengo's fan here!!!
Flamengo has a tradition of never been relegated and it keeps strong even in the premier league.
As a Flamengo fan, we are used to not get relegated EVER in our history, even in a game and even in premier league. Great video!
👃👃👃
@@andredesenaaugusto4357 Pode até ser cheirinho, mas menti dizendo que nunca foi rebaixado? Acho que não xD
there is an brasilian ex-player and sports commentator named Carlos Alberto, he once said if Real Madrid and Barcelona played in the Brasileirão they wouldn't even finish top 6, after that he said Real wouldn't even win Brasileirão Série B, you could test it and see if Carlos Alberto is actually right
Real Madrid would win in Serie B easily.
But there's one thing that I think there's not unbeatable;
Much more hot matches that could affect fitness (specially 11am);
The big travels between like Juventude from South-Sampaio Correia from Northeast that is likely a big trip in Europe (maybe Lisbon-Moscow distancewise);
The fields aren't great;
And maybe they lose some games;
But I think talentwise the disparity is big - and for Madrid rn - they have 3 Brazilians, 1 Uruguayan that knows how to play those fields.
Just traveling the distance of the whole country or even the continent weekly to play Libertadores, in the Brazilian climate, they would already change drastically.
Nice video! As a Corinthians supporter I need to say: "Vai Corinthians, chupa Chelsea!"
It’s hilarious how Flamengo aways have the protection of the system in FM hahahahaha
Corinthians is actually based on a english team!
IS THAT A MF PALMEIRAS REFERENCE??? 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔛🔛🔛🔝🔝🔝🔝
how can I get brazilian teams to play in FM23? On my game they are all weird, with the names and brand wrong
@TomFm dumb question but how is that list that shows players CA accessed ???
Can you keep this series coming? Maybe you could put some top Turkish clubs in see how galatasaray and fenerhache do, or possibly like some rich Saudi clubs?
could you make a video on how to do this? i want to do this with different teams as well but i have no idea on how to do it
Travel costs isn't a problem for Brazilian teams.Transport tickets per kilometer/mile in Brazil are more expensive, and brazilian territory is some dozen times the UK one.
What are the rules in English PL? as the brazilians teams have only non eu players.
Can only have 5 foreigners in a match day squad in Brazil. Could explain the English club relegations.
For first season they can have problem, about players registration law
How could you move the clubs from the Brazilian League to The Premier League
The funny part is that people that are not from Brazil think that only Palmeiras and Flamengo are good, because today these two teams are rly good. But talking about history, and recent history too, they weren't that good. Corinthians is the biggest winner of this century, inclusing the clubs WC against Chelsea in 2012, São Paulo had a very strong team back in 2005, winning 3 times in a row the brazilian national league and clubs WC against liverpool. Internacional won it too in 2006 against Barcelona
The club WC isn't really a big deal for European clubs. The Brazilian league is in competition for top 10, maybe.
@@black.listed yeah fr Europeans it's an easy competition, and that's why they're planning to chance it, it will be harder, just like the world cup. But even with being 2 matches only, it's hard for the non European teams, we give it a high value, and it needs to be like this
GALOOOOOOO DECAMPEAO FODA PRA CRL
The Prem is so overpowered in this game, no way the best Brazilian clubs would be yo-yo clubs in England damn
they would be
@@billyhoggins3661 nah, both palmeiras and flamengo have pretty good squads irl, and with good managers they showed that ( palmeiras under abel, flamengo under jorge jesus, both played great football )
@@billyhoggins3661 I feel like they would be mid table Prem teams, I doubt teams like Palmerias and Flamengo would ever get relegated though
I’d love to see these things with other leagues in Latin America. (Argentina for Prem, Mexico for Prem/Championship, etc)
O Mengão é incaível até na Premier League no FM.
The greatest clubs in Brazil... from last season, great.
As a Brazilian that's really great.
Well, my team never has been demoted in Brasil and as it seems in Premier League as well. Football heritage I guess
Hi Tom, could you maybe try switching the bottom 10 of the Championship with the top 10 of MLS? I feel like that’s where there’s a bit of parity. Not sure how good FM23 is at managing the East/West conference system in MLS, but would be interesting to see if the worst Championship teams could compete for MLS titles, Open Cups, and CONCACAF champs league titles; and see if any of the MLS clubs can get themselves established in the PL.
As a brazilian, I'm really happy with this video! Especially because I'm a Flamengo fan. I really think that Palmeiras and Flamengo could do well in the Premier League in real life, these two teams have a great squad and lots of money, I feel like they could battle for european places regularly.
Doubt it, nothing against either of those teams in fact I’ve watched both teams live and had a great time at the games when I travelled around Brazil but the top 6 is just too good for them to get in there.
@@SebRodriguez-t8b Fair enough. I still think that Flamengo and Palmeiras can perform the same level as Aston Villa or Brighton (maybe even Tottenham today?) and fight for those European places, but maybe you're right. I guess we'll ever know 😅
They wouldn't. Probably would get relegated and struggle at Championship
@@Flu_1902FFC "eUrOpEaN fOoTbALL iS oVeRrAtEd"; also european football: won all the last 10 club world cups
@@David-qq9bk This is a simple question of economics, whoever has more money buys better players... Europeans are filled with south american, african and even a number of asian players. In order to compete regularly, they would have equal economic conditions, and could, for example, avoid selling players who today leave for better salaries and career conditions. The differentiating factor IS money.
Love the experiments Tom. Any chance that you could do one swapping the top 3-4 clubs in the league of Ireland with the bottom 2-4 clubs in Scotland?
I think you should divide travel cost by amount of games played for a fair comparison there mate 😉
Bro no joke, I think palmeiras and this season's Fluminense would be top 10 teams in every league in europe besides EPL. And if we are talking about Portugal and Netherlands I say they could fight for the title. Flamengo on it's best season was a problem for Liverpool to beat.
Those are rock solid teams. If they get to play more often against european teams (they barely have the opportunity to do so) they can adapt and evolve really fast
Europeans think that the Brazilian Football Championship is slow, they don't understand that Brazilian states are bigger than European countries, Brazilian clubs usually travel 8 thousand km between matches, which means that, with a favorable score, the players have They have to play at a slower pace to preserve themselves physically. .
Thank you for ur video. I will doing the same but with the top 8 leagues of the world 🌎
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Travel costs are so high because there still based in Brazil (idk if you realised this I'm only half way through the vid )
You should do Argentinian as well, not sure if they will do as good as Brazilian teams
That was very interesting. I think the brazilian league is stronger than we might guess. It's definitely on the same level as France and Portugal.
Palmeiras, Flamengo and this season's Fluminense could fight for Champions League spots in any European League except in the Premier, and could even fight for the title in countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Turkey.
The thing is, the only time we see Brazilian clubs facing European sides is in the Club World Cup, but then it's a squad that in theory is the best in Europe for that year.
But I doubt these clubs would struggle playing against any club that isn't one of those that we put as likely of winning the Champions League
Europeans think that the Brazilian Football Championship is slow, they don't understand that Brazilian states are bigger than European countries, Brazilian clubs usually travel 8 thousand km between matches, which means that, with a favorable score, the players have They have to play at a slower pace to preserve themselves physically. .
Gonna be lit
I watched the video deluded thinking that maybe in England my Corinthians could win something, big mistake, but excellent video 😅
I did something similar with Liga MX teams on Fifa.
Would love to see how the do on FM
How do you move clubs to other leagues please
not even in the premier league did Flamengo fall to the second division
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Next time try Argentinian clubs like boca , River plate , Velez and etc..
Actually, I don't think that the nowadays Fluminense under Diniz command will be relegated in the Premier league
So, even in the Premier League, Flamengo kept its reputation of never being relegated! That brings some warmth to us, the supporters =)
(Btw, Tom, aside from Flamengo, only Santos and São Paulo can boast that deed)
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Did u took off the rules of the league? Like having X british players etc?
Happy to see that my Flamengo was the only brazilian that wasn’t relegated, just how it is in Brazil
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For context, they are the only team amongst the ones included in the video to never be relegated.
São Paulo and Santos also have never been relegated.
How do you list the current abilities?