the teacher took the kids property and decided to arms it up for much longer than the class. the parent has reason to be annoyed should he have played his cards better? yes. Did the teacher play a part in the annoyance? Yes. Stop taking kids things for longer than necessary. You hold it till the end of class and if any punishment is to be doled out you do it then. breaking as rule does not mean the teacher gets to break the law too. the item was not hers, she knew why he was there and who he was. If she returned the bag at the end of class, none of this would have happened. A student can demand his rights upheld, even if it contravenes a school rule. For example, if the school does random searches and the child has their bag on them and refuses. They can't just rip it open, even if the search was a part of the school rules. They can punish the student as an agreement was made and they broke it. They can't search his bag.
@@ceejayd.johnson6862 I'm speaking as a legal expert hun. Your teaching degree can go to do deciding to be a security guard and fighting a parent. The law will explain itself
I am 54 years old and I remember that parents and students are not to enter the staff room unless you are asked to do so by the member of staff you would like to speak with. So rude and disrespect of some of us parents
There’s no reason why that teacher is being charged with anything!! This “parent” left from whenever and came to assault the teacher. I would bet my left arm this is not a good student. God go with these teachers. It’s not fair!!!
unfortunately the teacher will be charged as the rules are that a teacher should not fight either students or parents just allow them to beat you. Then you can sue them. It is easier to raise hog and goat than to teach. My VP was slapped by a parent recently because the board had expulled her child.
Laws are not made by the police , I would not agree with the statement saying the police are like the criminals I will not agree with that they are bad and good everywhere but this instant it has to be dealt with according to the law so to be honest we should be careful of what we say because we are propelling all the other people to say the same thing and then criminalise a good police that actually want good For everybody so please
If the parent turned up at the school, why not just give the parent the bag? If the parent was given the bag, there would be no need for the parent to try go into the staff room. Some Teachers are too nuff. Pretending to be God and Jesus in people's lives.
Apparently the teacher who took the bag want to speak to the parent thus the other told the parent to wait at the staff room. The bag could not be handed to the parent by another teacher. Be reasonable reasonable
Your statement is why this country is in the state that it is in. Your mindset is exactly congruent with the behavior of this child. Principle is principle.
@@nigerianclassic8209 OK, I'm sure you told yourself that you are important after making this post. Tell me what so wrong in giving the parent the child's bag after the parent requested it?
That student should not attend that school anymore. Parents need to train the children how they should grow. The Bible tells you that. So the student is wrong to take it to school and the parents make it worse. So this is to tell all the home train is needed and it started at the home by all parents. And this is why our nation school is like this.. Parents are to be blamed for the children's behavior at all times
For everyone asking why the Police charged the teacher then it is evident you don't know the law. While the teacher may very well be in the right in terms of having to defend himself by inflicting injuries on the parent, the law still stands that when a person does this he/she have committed an offense and is thereby liable for prosecution. It is then the responsibility of the court to try the matter and make a judgment. This is what is known in law as a case and cross case. With that said Police Officers are simple enforcers of the Laws that already exist, they don't make them! N.B People it's modern times now, try and gain some knowledge it's available for everyone.
The news said the teacher prevented the parent from entering the staff room. The inference here is that she may have physically blocked the parent, which is not an assault. The assault started with whomever threw the first hit. So if they charged her as well, it must mean she may have been the instigator of actual physical assault.
The proper channel was to not have the bag beyond the class the bag was taken in. School rules are not laws. The teacher does not have a right to scurry off with the bag. Teachers have been doing this for decades now so Jamaicans think it's okay. No. Hold the item, give it back after class. Why she tek up har self go seh she ago fight di man? Dem pay har do that?
Can't see why the teacher was charged but the cop probably don't want to appear bias so he's decides to leave it to the Judge in court. Deal with her Your Honour
Teacher's job wasn't to physically block anyone. She was there to teach. 1. She did two things wrong. Keeping the bag longer than necessary. Her class was over? Return it. 2. She then tried to impede the parent trying to get his (rightful) belongings. You may have a school rule for something but those come with consequences that can be discussed after. They do not take the place of the law of the land. Any bit of impeding him from getting his property, he had a right to move you out the way. The police aren't familiar with the law but know they both fought. So they left it up to a judge to decide. This is like when security guards think they can block you from leaving a private property because "we need to search you vehicle". Or any other litany of things schools love to think they can enforce just because "rules is rules". Those rules do not take over from the law. If someone breaks them, they still have their legal rights and the police can uphold them. What ever punishment the school then decides in response, suspension/expulsion, etc is what can legally be done. Fighting a parent like you're mike Tyson? A male parent? She lost the purpose of her presence at that school and decide she was going to be a boxer.
When did the teacher take the bag? Knowing that the child had other classes. Why none of the other teachers intervene when the child showed up without a bag for class? Also, how long did it take for the parent to get to the school for the bag and how long was the parent waiting before he/she decided to enter the staff room? The teacher should have return the bag to the student. We need the whole story
When students are out of order and rude, parents rebel. When teachers are attacked by hooligans, parents blames teacher. This is just a perfect example of how the country is being operated. The innocent is persecuted and the lawbreakers get low mindset individuals to go on strike to take about how good they are. Training starts at home. Why was she disruptive? Why couldn't she have heed to counsel to behave? The parents need to keep the child at school and teach the child he has created and stop letting them in society to destroy the schools.
If corporal punishment is in effect and this is happening in the schools, can you imagine what's going to take place later if that is declared null & void? Parents chucking badness inside a staff room! Hooliganism in its highest form! Why was she allowed to get so far? She shouldn't have entered the building in the first place!! Who is protecting teachers, Glad I'm out of the Jamaican classroom, else I'd end up in jail for sure!
The police is doing their jobs they are the one's with the facts, if the parents identify the bag is her money buy it let her have it and take legal action time is too serious you just can't afford to lose your life over a school bag a soft answer turned away wraith come man both sides much show respect
Lots of people in Jamaica including students seen to lack respect for Teachers and Police while they are performing their duties. The constitution must be amended to include strict punishment for those who assault Teachers, Police, and Others in Authority while they’re on duty.
Why she tek the pickney bag in the first place? of course the parent aggravated. Lest the child have something in that bag, they don't have no reason fi tek it. How the child going to learn in the first place? smh 🤦♂ 🤦♂
You so right only thing you dont say is THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT SCHOOL FOR THAT CHILD he/ she needs to be home schooled and stay away from decent people kids who want to learn smg
Taking a student's bag is a form of disciplinary action when a child has misbehaved...it is one of the few things that teachers have left to discipline them. The bag would have been returned as soon as the student get the message. It is sad that these parents never turn up when their child/children are not behaving or even skulling classes but bags, phones etc they are ready to come beat teacher.. smh...😪
All guidance for children is being removed, so lawlessness will prevail. Parents and Teachers who are willing to have no power or authority to enforce any form of discipline.
This, took it way longer than needed and even removed it from the classroom. That's stupid. The bag should have been returned at the very end. Why was the teacher ready to defend some random bag? "Oh you can't come in here!" He can. You have his property. He has a right to it. You're not the guard.
That child should not attend that school no longer. The bible said train up a child in the way he r she should etc. Now the parent should should disciplined the child instead go to the school and do this.... Now this is how children behave this way all across the islands.. All parents should be blame for their children behave innthis incident this show it poor home train feom the home.....
It is sooo sad. The truth is charges can be easily laid against a teacher ( a few years ago police came to my workplace and was ready to arrest me based only on what a student reported) My approach is talking less and if the class and school rules are not being followed I log their infraction on their student files. That is my evidents that I can take to the school administrators. A teacher's classroom or staffroom is not a safe space anymore. True not the V.T.H.S. I went to years ago. PRAY FI WI, WI NEED YU PRAYERS.
I remember be at school and the teacher going to tell us that she don't have to teach us anything cause once she show up for school, her monthly salary was sure. My Spanish teacher told me how poor people don't qualify to attend the school. Simply because i was from an inner city community and she knew that. Before the whole class. Kmt. Let me hear the whole story
What kind of dutty parent this!! Kmft!! Police have to charge the teacher and parent because both were fighting. It's the judge now that will give the parent the wrong convict them or they pay a fine and the teacher would then be acquitted if she's innocent. That's how law works.
This is why children are behaving the way they are parents themselves some of them have no principle no discipline no manners no nothing and this is why the world is the way it is at the moment it's very very sad to know that a parents could go into the school to tackle the teacher very very sad I'm sorry for that childThis is why children are behaving the way they are parents themselves some of them have no principle no discipline no manners no nothing and this is why the world is the way it is at the moment it's very very sad to know that a parents could go into the school to tackle the teacher very very sad I'm sorry for that child Because if that was me every school he or she attended after this altercation and she would she would be ignored by the teachers let her parents are his parents teach him or her at school at their home out of order Teachers stand up for your colleague stand up for your colleague God will not be upset with you
The teacher charge how ! Self defence and security rules and policies must be followed as a👀 parent to set example of their children very rude charge the parent not the teacher the teacher didn't went to anyone place his was at work ur job if to blame the school for not protected there teacher with security for problem like these to attend in the situation for the school safety argument done
Children LIVE WHAT THEY LEARN NEW AGE PARENTS NO DISCIPLINE SO WHAT MUST THE CHILDREN DO:: PARENTS EAT SOUR GRAPE CHILDRENS TEETH SET ON EDGE PARENTS PARENTS!!! TEACHERS UNITED AND STAND FIRM
Teacher fi deh pon strike fi one year,teacher not to teach big people, when MI a pickney if your mother come a school a trouble cause yuh a guh get double,them yah youth parents fi teach dem a them yard
That's nice Opal. The teacher should have been busy teaching. What was she doing trying to be superman to stop a parent taking his property? Opal, you would have not thrown yourself in front of some man. you'd have called security or the police. Regardless of what you think of the parent's actions. He has a right to retrieve his belongings. Upset? Call a guard or the police. Do not try to fight a parent.
Over the years i use to sit sbd watch tv with My GrandMother Tvj was my channel but as i get wiser i see how the media works countless of things out here that no one is Hightligting... Dirty work of the government, The Football in our country is a disater no proper field etc lots more
What about the good children ver tech is a fail school the teacher Don't understand children are the future what kind of future do we have when you can punish over fifteen hundred for parent, the parent was wrong , but what about the future.smh
So why did they charge the teacher it's a dark day for Jamaica
This is terrible . i dont blame the teachers . this is why our society is like this . children live what they see and hear.
That parent is so disrespectful that is why the children are behaving like that.
I agree
Blind leading the blind in society these days.
the teacher took the kids property and decided to arms it up for much longer than the class.
the parent has reason to be annoyed
should he have played his cards better? yes.
Did the teacher play a part in the annoyance? Yes. Stop taking kids things for longer than necessary. You hold it till the end of class and if any punishment is to be doled out you do it then.
breaking as rule does not mean the teacher gets to break the law too. the item was not hers, she knew why he was there and who he was. If she returned the bag at the end of class, none of this would have happened.
A student can demand his rights upheld, even if it contravenes a school rule.
For example, if the school does random searches and the child has their bag on them and refuses. They can't just rip it open, even if the search was a part of the school rules. They can punish the student as an agreement was made and they broke it. They can't search his bag.
@@user-rx8wc2id9u as a teacher, I cannot blame my colleague. So what your saying is not 100% accurate. Only teachers would understand still.
@@ceejayd.johnson6862 I'm speaking as a legal expert hun. Your teaching degree can go to do deciding to be a security guard and fighting a parent. The law will explain itself
Stand with the educators🇯🇲n a speedy recovery to the teacher ❤
I am 54 years old and I remember that parents and students are not to enter the staff room unless you are asked to do so by the member of staff you would like to speak with. So rude and disrespect of some of us parents
The parents them don't better than the pickney them.. Now you know where the home training come from
There’s no reason why that teacher is being charged with anything!! This
“parent” left from whenever and came to assault the teacher. I would bet my left arm this is not a good student. God go with these teachers. It’s not fair!!!
unfortunately the teacher will be charged as the rules are that a teacher should not fight either students or parents just allow them to beat you. Then you can sue them. It is easier to raise hog and goat than to teach. My VP was slapped by a parent recently because the board had expulled her child.
they need to suspend that kid from the school cause she's from a family of Hooligans
Suspend your mother
There parents need to teach them. And if you check the levels, both child and parent is a dunce bat.
@@elegantpope3289fully dunce!
How are these parent or so out of order ....this is not the VERE TECT that I know of ... OMG
Don't blame the teachers and these police officers in Jamaica are like the criminals
Laws are not made by the police , I would not agree with the statement saying the police are like the criminals I will not agree with that they are bad and good everywhere but this instant it has to be dealt with according to the law so to be honest we should be careful of what we say because we are propelling all the other people to say the same thing and then criminalise a good police that actually want good For everybody so please
It's a different breed of people nowadays
Corporalpunishment should be legal
thats nice, corporal punishment for whom?
this comment makes no sense.
If the parent turned up at the school, why not just give the parent the bag? If the parent was given the bag, there would be no need for the parent to try go into the staff room. Some Teachers are too nuff. Pretending to be God and Jesus in people's lives.
Apparently the teacher who took the bag want to speak to the parent thus the other told the parent to wait at the staff room. The bag could not be handed to the parent by another teacher. Be reasonable reasonable
Your statement is why this country is in the state that it is in. Your mindset is exactly congruent with the behavior of this child. Principle is principle.
@@nigerianclassic8209 OK, I'm sure you told yourself that you are important after making this post. Tell me what so wrong in giving the parent the child's bag after the parent requested it?
That student should not attend that school anymore. Parents need to train the children how they should grow. The Bible tells you that. So the student is wrong to take it to school and the parents make it worse. So this is to tell all the home train is needed and it started at the home by all parents.
And this is why our nation school is like this..
Parents are to be blamed for the children's behavior at all times
Wht the bag hve to do with the student behaviour?
Gi dem the bag and suspend the student
And we wonder why the utes behave like they do
For everyone asking why the Police charged the teacher then it is evident you don't know the law. While the teacher may very well be in the right in terms of having to defend himself by inflicting injuries on the parent, the law still stands that when a person does this he/she have committed an offense and is thereby liable for prosecution. It is then the responsibility of the court to try the matter and make a judgment. This is what is known in law as a case and cross case.
With that said Police Officers are simple enforcers of the Laws that already exist, they don't make them!
N.B People it's modern times now, try and gain some knowledge it's available for everyone.
The news said the teacher prevented the parent from entering the staff room. The inference here is that she may have physically blocked the parent, which is not an assault. The assault started with whomever threw the first hit. So if they charged her as well, it must mean she may have been the instigator of actual physical assault.
Parents are setting very poor examples. That is why the children who comes to school behave in that manner.
Let them go back to online class, everyone stay home
The parent even if upset should not have entered the staff room. The parent could have waited to get the bag from through the proper channel.
True but should realized that it was getting out of control gave the parent The and ask her to wait on the next teacher.
The proper channel was to not have the bag beyond the class the bag was taken in. School rules are not laws. The teacher does not have a right to scurry off with the bag. Teachers have been doing this for decades now so Jamaicans think it's okay. No. Hold the item, give it back after class.
Why she tek up har self go seh she ago fight di man?
Dem pay har do that?
Y charge the teacher
Now we all c y children behave the way they do at school n on the road. Smh disgrace
Can't see why the teacher was charged but the cop probably don't want to appear bias so he's decides to leave it to the Judge in court. Deal with her Your Honour
Teacher's job wasn't to physically block anyone. She was there to teach.
1. She did two things wrong. Keeping the bag longer than necessary. Her class was over? Return it.
2. She then tried to impede the parent trying to get his (rightful) belongings. You may have a school rule for something but those come with consequences that can be discussed after. They do not take the place of the law of the land. Any bit of impeding him from getting his property, he had a right to move you out the way.
The police aren't familiar with the law but know they both fought. So they left it up to a judge to decide.
This is like when security guards think they can block you from leaving a private property because "we need to search you vehicle". Or any other litany of things schools love to think they can enforce just because "rules is rules". Those rules do not take over from the law. If someone breaks them, they still have their legal rights and the police can uphold them. What ever punishment the school then decides in response, suspension/expulsion, etc is what can legally be done. Fighting a parent like you're mike Tyson? A male parent? She lost the purpose of her presence at that school and decide she was going to be a boxer.
When did the teacher take the bag? Knowing that the child had other classes. Why none of the other teachers intervene when the child showed up without a bag for class? Also, how long did it take for the parent to get to the school for the bag and how long was the parent waiting before he/she decided to enter the staff room?
The teacher should have return the bag to the student.
We need the whole story
When students are out of order and rude, parents rebel. When teachers are attacked by hooligans, parents blames teacher. This is just a perfect example of how the country is being operated. The innocent is persecuted and the lawbreakers get low mindset individuals to go on strike to take about how good they are. Training starts at home. Why was she disruptive? Why couldn't she have heed to counsel to behave?
The parents need to keep the child at school and teach the child he has created and stop letting them in society to destroy the schools.
If corporal punishment is in effect and this is happening in the schools, can you imagine what's going to take place later if that is declared null & void? Parents chucking badness inside a staff room! Hooliganism in its highest form! Why was she allowed to get so far? She shouldn't have entered the building in the first place!! Who is protecting teachers,
Glad I'm out of the Jamaican classroom, else I'd end up in jail for sure!
The police is doing their jobs they are the one's with the facts, if the parents identify the bag is her money buy it let her have it and take legal action time is too serious you just can't afford to lose your life over a school bag a soft answer turned away wraith come man both sides much show respect
They should charge people who assault teachers.
This is why the children is like that and there's no way you can discipline children with parents like this.
Lots of people in Jamaica including students seen to lack respect for Teachers and Police while they are performing their duties.
The constitution must be amended to include strict punishment for those who assault Teachers, Police, and Others in Authority while they’re on duty.
Dem police deh fi get charge
Full time the teachers take action and stand with each other. Smh..
Why she tek the pickney bag in the first place? of course the parent aggravated. Lest the child have something in that bag, they don't have no reason fi tek it. How the child going to learn in the first place? smh 🤦♂ 🤦♂
You so right only thing you dont say is THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT SCHOOL FOR THAT CHILD he/ she needs to be home schooled and stay away from decent people kids who want to learn smg
It was said that the child was disrupting the class, the children and parents are hog. So the muma and pupa so the child.
@@cliffordhenry3764preach! Tan a dem yaard yes
Taking a student's bag is a form of disciplinary action when a child has misbehaved...it is one of the few things that teachers have left to discipline them. The bag would have been returned as soon as the student get the message. It is sad that these parents never turn up when their child/children are not behaving or even skulling classes but bags, phones etc they are ready to come beat teacher.. smh...😪
@@LadyReid90844 same so for real some children are suffering because of terrible parenting
The children are unruly because of parents
All guidance for children is being removed, so lawlessness will prevail. Parents and Teachers who are willing to have no power or authority to enforce any form of discipline.
Why took the student bag
This, took it way longer than needed and even removed it from the classroom. That's stupid. The bag should have been returned at the very end. Why was the teacher ready to defend some random bag? "Oh you can't come in here!"
He can. You have his property. He has a right to it. You're not the guard.
Those disruptive children must stay home and mek dem ill-Manned parents teach dem. I Still don’t understand y the teacher was also charged
That child should not attend that school no longer.
The bible said train up a child in the way he r she should etc.
Now the parent should should disciplined the child instead go to the school and do this....
Now this is how children behave this way all across the islands..
All parents should be blame for their children behave innthis incident this show it poor home train feom the home.....
It is sooo sad. The truth is charges can be easily laid against a teacher ( a few years ago police came to my workplace and was ready to arrest me based only on what a student reported) My approach is talking less and if the class and school rules are not being followed I log their infraction on their student files. That is my evidents that I can take to the school administrators.
A teacher's classroom or staffroom is not a safe space anymore. True not the V.T.H.S. I went to years ago.
PRAY FI WI, WI NEED YU PRAYERS.
I dont blame the teacher....thats y the children acting out cuz dem kids nuh under no rules😢😢
I remember be at school and the teacher going to tell us that she don't have to teach us anything cause once she show up for school, her monthly salary was sure.
My Spanish teacher told me how poor people don't qualify to attend the school.
Simply because i was from an inner city community and she knew that. Before the whole class.
Kmt.
Let me hear the whole story
What kind of dutty parent this!! Kmft!!
Police have to charge the teacher and parent because both were fighting. It's the judge now that will give the parent the wrong convict them or they pay a fine and the teacher would then be acquitted if she's innocent. That's how law works.
This is why I transferred from this school
So disrespectful smh
These teachers and parents 😢 as bro god would say . Time come
This is why children are behaving the way they are parents themselves some of them have no principle no discipline no manners no nothing and this is why the world is the way it is at the moment it's very very sad to know that a parents could go into the school to tackle the teacher very very sad I'm sorry for that childThis is why children are behaving the way they are parents themselves some of them have no principle no discipline no manners no nothing and this is why the world is the way it is at the moment it's very very sad to know that a parents could go into the school to tackle the teacher very very sad I'm sorry for that child Because if that was me every school he or she attended after this altercation and she would she would be ignored by the teachers let her parents are his parents teach him or her at school at their home out of order Teachers stand up for your colleague stand up for your colleague God will not be upset with you
The teacher charge how !
Self defence and security rules and policies must be followed as a👀 parent to set example of their children very rude charge the parent not the teacher the teacher didn't went to anyone place his was at work ur job if to blame the school for not protected there teacher with security for problem like these to attend in the situation for the school safety argument done
Don't wrong the teachers it could have been anyone of them. Men and women r going to school not children a sad reality
Children LIVE WHAT THEY LEARN
NEW AGE PARENTS NO DISCIPLINE SO WHAT MUST THE CHILDREN DO::
PARENTS EAT SOUR GRAPE CHILDRENS TEETH SET ON EDGE
PARENTS PARENTS!!!
TEACHERS UNITED AND STAND FIRM
But when I was going to school , all this never happen
The police is a disgrace too y charge the teacher
Teacher fi deh pon strike fi one year,teacher not to teach big people, when MI a pickney if your mother come a school a trouble cause yuh a guh get double,them yah youth parents fi teach dem a them yard
That's nice Opal. The teacher should have been busy teaching. What was she doing trying to be superman to stop a parent taking his property?
Opal, you would have not thrown yourself in front of some man. you'd have called security or the police.
Regardless of what you think of the parent's actions. He has a right to retrieve his belongings. Upset? Call a guard or the police.
Do not try to fight a parent.
Over the years i use to sit sbd watch tv with My GrandMother Tvj was my channel but as i get wiser i see how the media works countless of things out here that no one is Hightligting... Dirty work of the government, The Football in our country is a disater no proper field etc lots more
What about the good children ver tech is a fail school the teacher Don't understand children are the future what kind of future do we have when you can punish over fifteen hundred for parent, the parent was wrong , but what about the future.smh
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Anju B MAN is the cause of this same how him mash up parliament same with school church etc
Those who never showed up to classes don't need to be paid clearly
Probably for the best don't return back to school so where would the injuries of the parent ironically no comment
make them parent teach children at home
These parents don’t have any respect for teachers