The Moment Jordan Peterson CONVERTED Russell Brand To Christianity
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Have you noticed that more and more prominent influential people like Joe Rogan, Andrew Huberman, and Russell Brand are talking more and more about God and Christianity? There is something at work, I think Jordan Peterson has a lot to do with it, and it's because of conversations like this with Russell Brand...
Brand himself in the title of this video said, "This conversation changed my mind" and he has since put out that he getting baptized and becoming Christian. The clip I'm about to show you is the part of their conversation where Peterson shreds the modern atheist argument to and convinces Russell Brand that there is no more reliable truth than the deepest Christian belief...
Here's the video, watch the whole thing, it's all important, then I'll finish with why this is so important for Christianity...
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I been praying for Russell 20 yrs. He broke my heart with his first book. I couldn't not pray for Russell. Him finding Jesus & his coming baptisim just flooded me with more joy than you can possibly imagine. Answered prayer after 20 yrs is amazing. I am so blessed He sought Jesus & found Him. Praise God!!🙏🏻👑✝️🕊️❤️
God Bless you for your prayers...could you please include me in your prayers ..my name is Rosalba..I believe your prayers truly helped Russell convert to Christianity which will also help many others follow in his footsteps..
@@cameorose1431 Sure I will pray for you. Holy Abba, I lift up this child of God & I pray that Your Love would fall upon her. I thank you God that you will pour out Your Spirit & guide her in Your ways. May the blood of Jesus protect her from all evil. May you bless her going in & going out. Thank You Lord for Your goodness for us. In Jesus name. Amen. 🙏🏻👑✝️🕊️❤️
You’re dreaming. It sounds deluded (common) that you think you are doing this.
Like you are elevated.
A subtle ego co morbidity for most in religion it seems.
There is always a fool to take the bait and create mini drama loops that keep the mind entertained and elevated.
Grow up ppl, you are what you seek.
Oneness
God bless you for praying for others.
@@is-ness - You may think what you wish. Mocking God is a serious thing. I would recommend that you repent for that. God will not be mocked. FYI.
"When you seek truth, you seek God whether you know it or not." ~ St Edith Stein.
That's my story. Wasn't looking for Jesus directly but truth and you find out you not only get truth but love.
Edith who?
If you read the Bible and not just cherry pick verses and come away from it believing it's true you are mentally re tard ed
The only question is which god.
Surely not a YHWH that was invented 3500 years ago.
She is a saint.
Jordan Peterson’s biblical lectures were the main reason that I found my faith again. God is good
I watched him break down Cain and able a few years ago and the same happened for me.
I love explaining to people that JP’s biblical lectures are the method by which he himself became a Christian. His lectures were originally intended to be described only through a psychological lens but the practice itself of giving the lectures actually developed within him the vision of the eternal truths of God and his eyes were finally opened.
Yet Peterson supports the murder in Gaza. Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing. th-cam.com/video/oQ669Qh2FTE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oaAt8frHm3j6qc6q
This made me tear up for both of them.
“Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Russell's face when he watches JP. JP is so passionate. He is a special man. As for Christianity, there is a revival happening. I was giving up on the whole Christian thing. So tired of hypocrites and fakes. And yet, within me, I feel a fire, a calling, or a beckoning from God.
Watch the journey home ewtn
Jordon is a man a human like all of humanity. Do not worship a creation. Worship the creator
I hope you never let another human disrupt your relationship and walk with the LORD, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. It took me a while to realize that Jesus is our personal Saviour, but He loves you in an individualized personal way.
Jesus is King!
Christianity is about Christ and you …and him , not the people. They fail. He doesn’t. Always focus on Him
" As for Christianity, there is a revival happening"
Yup, and you get to be part of it. Cool, huh? Btw, that "fire" you feel is the Holy Spirit...hang on with both hands and enjoy the ride.
I know I’m not the only Christian out here who’s been praying for Joe, Jordan, and Russell to come to Christ-been praying for their hearts to soften to God since 2020. ❤
What crap this stuff is. It takes a special level of stupidity to ignore the contradictions, rewrites, and general stupidity found in the bible.
Yes, the tide is shifting, even Richar Dawkins!
Thoses that seek truth end up finding a way, however how improbable it seem.
@@alexforget
"Yes, the tide is shifting"
Yes. Fewer and fewer people believe in this crap.
Forgive me, but you are beautiful ❤️
Yes!! 🙌🏻 🙏🏻
I have found God in the last couple of years. I'm a Christian again
Bravo! Greetings from Croatia. We are the catholics to.
Same here, the more I learn the more it makes sense✝️
I've always been a Christian, until recently I just wasn't on speaking terms with the Almighty but all's well now.
* God bless youse. ❤
Good that you are Christian but you don’t become spiritually “born again” twice… earth born then spiritually born because as earth born is as spiritually dead which is cut off from God because he is holy then Christ death reconciles us as mediator via Christ’s death brining us new life an eternal birth can not die and become born again so you technically became Christian only once if you are a true born
Me too. It was right after Sunday Service came out lol
Just imagine what the world would be like if every human being tried to be like Jesus. ❤
True IF the world accurately understands that God's goodness requires love AND justice
@@janiece8439 " Your sins are forgiven." Justice? " Today you will be with Me in paradise." Justice? What is your definition of justice and is it one with which everyone will agree?
It will never happen, but a worthy goal for one to aspire to. I think that we are coming up on the End of Days, but of course could be wrong. One day...we will live in that perfect harmony with our fellow man, and Christ!
though the gospel is that we all can stop trying. the jews tried like mad. the law's purpose was to reveal and convict us of sin (separation from god). jesus died our death ("the wages of sin is death"), so all can live his risen life and be in relationship.. union communion oneness.. with and in god. glory!
Ya pretty simple. .... Love each other like yourself...... actually believe bigger % does n is good.
I started my walk with Jesus partly after listening to Dr. Peterson’s series on Genesis. It’s been 4 years after meeting my Lord and savior. And He is real, it’s a story but it’s true! The apostles didn’t witness to a nice story, they witnessed to what they lived and saw!
That's what makes history the most interesting story: it is complex and true yet it is an overarching narrative that always comes back to Jesus, like fractal patterns in history... I guess that's to be expected from God entering into his creation.
Yes and the Apostles were Jews, like YESHUA!
Your comment reminds me of this message I just listened to today by Jamie Winship (there's a part 2 too). He talks about that we witness to what we have experienced through being transformed by an encounter with the living God. Sharing a nice story or information about what we heard won't overcome the enemy - it's our testimony of how Jesus transformed us that will lead others to seek Him! th-cam.com/video/0r98ULww6ME/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qP47Vb2VvXkILJUB
Yes, and the Jewish apostles left the religion of Judaism to follow Christ, the true Word of God. There is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ, we are one body.
You are blessed because you believe without seeing praise Jesus 🙏💗
The Holy Spirit is working around the world. GOD IS GOOD
Christianity is not god. Not by a long shot
@@gutyourtrustWhat does that even mean? LoL
@@gutyourtrustChristianity is only good. what are you afraid of. Think it through. The message is love.
It really is. Love to see it ✝️
Is he a born again Christian?
Has he get rid of all his tarotcards etc?
You can not mix Jesus with other ocult or religions... Have him as another prophet doesnt makes you a Christian, even if you say you are a Christian. And who dared to bapitize a person who has not repented?
Every knee will bow before Christ.
How did you determine this to be true?
seems a litle bit culty to me
Knees don't bow, they bend. And bowing involves the back/upper part of the body NOT the knees.
@@TheoSkeptomaidon’t be simple
@@mikeyC79only to the ignorant
“The most psychopathic tyrants will use the highest principles to justify their own self interest” Dr. JP 3:31
Hitler, MAO, Stalin, OBama, Mao, Biden. LOL
amen. This is basic truth.
Half the people that WANT to work in DC.
@@bwnco You forgot Trump. He's no better. Sucks to be American right now, I don't envy you having to choose between such vile contestants for the presidency of what is undoubtedly the mightiest nation on Earth.
@@bwnco
"Hitler, MAO, Stalin, OBama, Mao, Biden. LOL"
God: "Hold my beer." LOL!
It isn't a person trying to imitate Christ. It is the indwelling spirit of Christ, working in, and out through us. It is Christ in me, the hope of glory.
Be imitators of me, as I am an imitator of Christ
It is actually both! Once you accept the 2nd premise, the 1st should follow, we are called to imitate Christ!
"And you should imitate me, just as I imitate Christ." -- Paul in 1 Cor 11:1
@@ronmiller171 exactly
"Be perfect as God is perfect. " the Bible admonishes us. ❤
I was born in 1964; I was 10 when I saw Jesus. I saw Him; the barbed wire around His head and the holes in His palms and feet; and He was crying and I asked Him, "Who are you? and why are you crying?" and He said, "I am Jesus and I am crying for you because you are going to need Me in your life; because you are going to have a hard time in life; and I am going to be there for you to protect you in life" .. and He has kept His word. He was right about my life; and has been there for me. I don't think you will believe me; because my mom and dad didn't believe me; but it changed my life forever.
-Norma Martinez
I believe you. ❤
@Angela * I believe you too. ❤🙏✝️☘️👍
I believe you
I believe you
Lucian Smith was the original inventor in 1867 holding patent rights for it. Barbed wire, that is. That barbed wire that never existed in Christ's time. You had a real miracle! No. Wait. It was a a plaited crown of thorns! Matthew 27:27 - 30 27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers. 28 And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe. 29. And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews! Sorry Audrey, Norma, or whoever you are. Doesn't everyone need Christ? Doesn't everyone have hard times. in life? What about death? Most everyone sees death of loved ones before dying themselves. Doesn't everyone need Christ? Yes. EVERYONE needs Christ!! God bless you. Good day.
Our Father God loves us. I love Him. Im nothing without Him.
Like everything else in the universe, woman is the one that gave life. God is not a man
The Creator is Spirit. It is not male or female. When scripture was written, males had the higher authority in society so they used the word "him & he" for that reason.
@@TakeTheRideExactly. Mankind and history (his-story) is another example People get too hung up on pronouns and miss context. Galatians 3:28 says it all.
I grew up as a far-leftist pro-choice anti-theist. I became a centrist pro-life agnostic. Now I'm a proud conservative abolitionist earnestly searching for faith in Christ. While many things have influenced me over the years, Jordan Peterson is the foundational pillar of my transformation who opened my eyes to the meaning and beauty of Christianity. I cannot claim to be a true-believer just yet, but I will be raising my kids as Christians, and I will strive to act in a way that reflects the Christian ideal.
Oh how wonderful to hear your life journey. Let me tell you that Jesus is a personal God. Living a life after the standard of the Bible is good for you- but it won’t bring you into heaven. Jesus wants a relationship with you. I recommend you to follow what Peter told in Acts 2,38 and 39: “And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”„
for study of the topic read Roman’s 6,3-14 and the context. God bless you❤
JP's reading of Christianity is for sure deeper than your common 'literal protestant' reading
Just pray for Jesus to become real to you. Pray for clarity, then be open to something wonderful!
Read some Plato. Then read Paul. See if you can tell which is which.
@@PhilTough-hn8qj Did plato believe that Jesus is the messiah who saved the world from sin? Or did he believe that there's a golden class that should rule the world, a master race if you will, as described in Republic. (Have read both, yup, there's a big difference.)
That these two can digest and follow each other in real time is a spectacle to watch.
Spot on - I was thinking I would have trouble following up with a pithy comment after JP's excellent elocution.
They are both highly intelligent
And then I weep at those who leave the faith from fear of missing out on what the world has to offer, becoming debased and carnal to the flesh, ever seeking pleasures, but only finding death and loneliness.
I can’t even follow what they’re actually talking about. I wish I could.
Im with you, i seriously have no clue what they are saying. Never thought the Gospel was so complicated. I have always pitied the intellectuals that it's so difficult for them to grasp something so simple. But if they have to go through all this process to finally be able to see and come to the conclusion that Jesus Christ is Lord and that he died and rose for us then Im all for it.@@ginanix1011
Not only popular figures. He converted me. I truly believe he is a remarkable human being
All I can say is that I'm so happy that Russell Brand understood what Jordan Peterson was on about because I don't have a flipping clue. Just as well I'm a believer through the spirit and just goes to show that the Lord calls us in different ways 😊
One of my favorite things is when the Spirit of Truth teaches something, it always seems so epic even if it's something kind of small.
Far, far too many big words and confusing talk for the average person. He needs to tone it down. I do believe that Jesus is our savior, but not because of this.
@@patrickl.3623 100% agree. Dumb it down a little for the rest of us for the love of GOD !
He is trying to raise the level of the discussion to engage atheists who have ruled out Christianity. He is not speaking to believers. Though it does make them feel better.
@@patrickl.3623He was talking to a brilliant person. Not you or me.
So many people have set out to prove that God doesn't exist and that Jesus is not the Son of God and then these same people have become Christians. There is something important in that.
Personally, since becoming a Christian just over a year ago and growing in Christ, I discovered a logic which I never understood before in the story of God, the creation of man, the fall and our redemption through Jesus. It just makes so much sense it is actually mind blowing!
Suffering is the key ...It wasn't until I reached a terrible place of suffering that caused me to cry out to Jesus like I never have before ....I have been in such a selfish dry place spiritually and have awakened to it. I am so shameful of my walk, I'm so sorry to my Lord . I've allowed the internet to become my god, I give more time to my phone than I do Jesus and it makes me sick!!
I NEED JESUS , I NEED THE HOLY SPIRIT BUT , Most of all , I need to share Christ with others.
I pray for boldness and hunger for His word, I pray that the Holy Spirit will fall on humanity and wake up this world .
The end days are here , I can feel it in the depths of my soul.
This spiritual war we are in is only going to increase.
I'm very thankful for Russell Brand and pray that Jeus will do a work in him that makes him unwavering in Christ.
it's worse than you can imagine, I have lived through all time and it goes on you will never experience the horror sheer horror of experience eternity ..for that be glad
Suffering is indeed the key.
@@salomonligthelm14 Suffering is not the key
@sorrowinchrist3387 You need nothing but to believe in him and Repent of your sins. His grace is sufficient, a free gift not earned.
When I say "suffering" , I meant for me, it was a key that snapped me out of my slumber.
I ain't whipping myself or saying suffering is how one comes to know Christ. Yet suffering in Christ is a definite part of carrying your cross.
Just keep your fictional characters to your self bro😅
The way JP explains God is brilliant. There is no magic, there is no need for magic. It exists within the nature itself.
Yes, to an extent. Christians believe in the natural order of things, and so does Taoism and Buddhism.
@@russellmason5095 To an extent, yes, because Christians adhere to the natural order.
But that is NOT what Christianity is.
@@jameshynes-jn5zoYes it is, everything is in motion. Everything is concsious. Everything is god in material and immaterial. Christ is just a story to teach us who we are, but deny.
So true
I'm not a Christian. As a Hindu myself, I believe in Jesus. And I support the message Christ is King. ✝☦
You gave me chills
Jesus says “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. ..."
So, you cannot be hindu and actually believe Jesus; it's one or the other.
Truth by nature is exclusive, so it would only make sense that God incarnate (Jesus) would say that.
@@kveldulfpride There are two ways you can interpret events, stories, and dialogues from any ancient religious text books like the Bible. The first approach is "literal", as in all events recorded are real and happened exactly as they were documented. The second approach is "metaphorical", as in the events depicted are stories that contain spiritual messages of timeless virtues & morals communicated to us through parables & symbolism. You believe in the "literal" approach. I believe in the "metaphorical" approach.
@@deviceinside You can say that but it doesn't make it true. If you claim what i believe is literal, what exactly do you mean? If you say you believe the bible to be 'metaphorical', then which parts are those? Not all of them can be deemed metaphorical, else it loses its meaning.
Moral relativism doesn't work. It isn't logical. Truth isn't inclusive.
@@kveldulfpride You can say Earth is flat, but it doesn't make it true. You can believe in Santa Claus, but that doesn't make him real. You believe a piece of text written more than 2000 years ago to be literal, as in all events recorded are factually true. I believe not all the events depicted in this text were factually true, as some stories could have been modestly exaggerated to fit a certain narrative. Ancient texts like the Bible will never lose its meaning because the significance of metaphors could be more powerful than the overhyped stories themselves. That's the real beauty behind allegories and symbolism like the ones depicted in the Bible. There was a Yogi in India who was once asked by a tourist, which religion should they follow? The Yogi replied that it was a silly question. If you want to climb a mountain in order to reach the summit, there are many different paths to get there. These paths represent different religions or spiritual traditions. The summit represents God, or enlightenment. Hence, there is no one true path to enlightenment. God bless.
I love how you can tell Russell was so engaged and it was clicking for him and things were falling into place. He was kinda zoned out which shows that he was really thinking hard. A come-to-Jesus-moment. A eureka moment
Its great that Russell shut up and listened.❤
I amazed to see Russel Brand has converted to Christianity. It’s so wonderful. He’s now left Hollywood and now we can see his amazing intellect
That’s a good point, he had to get away from the influence (spirits) of Hollywood to find himself and find Jesus.
What a fascinating discussion. JP says Sam Harris daren't "concretize his relationship with the divine because his rational mind would tear it to shreds and leave him bereft". I wonder if this fear could be behind JP's own reluctance to do the same? I have heard Jonathan Pageau describe Jordan as a bridge between the secular and the religious worlds, and he does seem to be inadvertently bringing many people to Christianity as he wrestles with these issues with so much honesty, humility and insight. Truly inspiring.
He professional career as psycho therapist is over the day he proclaims Christ as King and being a born again believer, he will loose 98% of his audience. You must be willing to loose all for your salvation! He is playing with time IMO, he should have come to the cross a long time ago IMO
@@christianboddum8783is there a limited time to be saved? Will God deny you because "you were too late" I personally dont think so.
@@christianboddum8783 I believe there is a reason for his journey. God is not limited to the boundaries of time. Through his struggles, JP has brought many to, at the very least, have a deeper look at Christianity and that alone is relevant and meaningful. All of us (including myself first) could do so much more with the "gift of faith" we were blessed with. God works in mysterious ways, so, we should remind ourselves to keep a humble heart and be patient with others as everyone has their own journey..
Jordan has declared his belief , over and over.
His great discussion with Rabbi’s on the exodus alone is worth watching .
His own “” realisation “” that Christ exists, enables him to speak to those within academia , he counted produce such an emotional response , the depth of his conviction . Without believing.
His interview, podcast , explains how and when his “” mind”” was changed .
Although for years he also dismissed, but openly confessed his belief
I don’t think for JP his rational mind will tear it to shred. I think he’s afraid that he would have to subject his rational mind to something higher and being a psychologists, he fears that without his mind he is nothing.
I just found my faith after a lifetime looking. It is the best thing that has ever happened to be. Going through all the emotions now and pushing through it to get to the wisdom at the end.
Jesus dying on the cross is the only way to life, not me dying. We cannot save ourselves. "Bearing our cross" comes only after we have trusted Him and Him alone to save us from our sin, and give us a new nature. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved.."
True. JP is brilliant, but he speaks about the Bible as if it weren't actual history, but strictly a narrative; as if to compartmentalize it within an evolutionary worldview. He's not wrong about the narrative, but it fascinates me to hear him speaking about it so well even though he seems to be viewing it through such a narrow lense. I am waiting for the day when he finally sets down that Darwinistic framework. But I also know God is using him for his purposes to reach people who otherwise might reject him for rejecting the Darwinistic framework. 🤷♂️
And baptism represents what?
Dying with Christ, and rising with Him.
Baptism also makes us a child of God, since Adam separated us with original sin.
The Bible explains how to do that. It isn't just that. Read the New Testament.
This comment just made me break down crying. I’ve been off methadone for a little over a month. Been off street drugs for 5 years. And I been trying to smoke weed at night. Knowing it’s not what Jesus wants for me. Your comment just made me realize so much. Just threw everything away. This is my cross to bear. Thanks
I am not of any religion but i have always believed in God and Jordan Peterson helped me be able to do so from an intellectual point of view as well. It has been a true blessing having him in my life.
Imagine how much more a blessing it will be when you seek and encounter Jesus. It knocked over my own "agnostic theist" worldview in the most wonderful way.
@@mattk6719 I am looking for a good place to study The Bible from an intellectual point of view. Anything can happen. Only God knows.
@@mattk6719 Jesus should be learned from and replicated not worshipped and deified
@@gutyourtrust
Unless He is God. And, the evidence suggests... confirms.. that He is.
Jesus is the only way to heaven.
God bless you all.
It's not religion, but relationship with God through Jesus Christ. He paved the way with His sacrifice on the cross. If you seek God, you will find Him in the person of Jesus.
Yup.
I've just become Christian too.
Blessings… welcome to our very large family! 🙌
Praise be to Our Father!!!
Happy Rebirthday!
Truth of Bible.
1, the Written word.
2, prophecy
3. Archeology
4. Biology
5. Geology
6. Astronomy
7. Chemistry
8. Mathematics
9. Philosophy
10. Paleontology
Love is the Truth of ALL things. GOD is Love
There was so much more but translators left it out. They added vowel points and changed words and their meanings. Go back to the original writings.
Most reliable book in all of history.
Check out The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel.
There simply no truth without the acknowledgement of God, His authorship of the universe and its operation. THANK YOU Dr. Peterson for your concise explanations.
It’s been a joy to watch Peterson “figure out” that Christ is the way. He’s so smart - and those of us who’ve followed him for a while have witnessed a psychological>philosophical>religious evolution of thought. He’s almost evolved past human understanding. I really wish he’d do a book or video series on this evolution to Christ. He pays respect to Brand by opening up his mind and thought and doesn’t dumb down his brilliance.
Agree 💯% just wish he'd finally let go of his evolutionary presumptions.
Peterson is the C S Lewis of our time.
Based on this Conversation.....
C.S LEWIS. Realized his intellectualism
WAS NOT NECESSARY TO COME TO SALVATION.
No...Jordan has not surrendered himself...intellectual but not heart yet....
Great comparison! 👍🏼🖖🏽
That is a joke. JP doesn't even believe the Bible. He takes doctrinal passages as allegory And metaphor. He also doesn't even know what a Christian is. C.S.Lewis would turn over in his grave from this comment if he wasn't with the Lord right now.
@@bleachissweet1Peterson is yet another flashy false prophet people love to follow instead of the actual Truth.
I was raised Christian. Became an athiest in my late teens. Had a near death experience where I experienced things I can never explain with words. Since then, i've changed my mind that there is something out there. I dont align with Christianity anymore for reasons I wont get into (mostly historical reasons) but a believer in a higher power, whatever that may be. There is something beyond this life, and when you actually survey nature and really look at humanity over its existence, its magnificent how it all fits together in a grand design. How everything has its seasons, the cycle of life and death, that no thing is eternal. And scientifically, if matter cannot be created nor destroyed, where does it go? When you study philosophy and ancient traditions (that pre-date christianity), you understand that there are profound reasons to celebrate a creator(s), and to think that you are here for no reason, for no purpose, is a sad and lonely life. I will never hold it against an atheist for what they believe, or a Christian for what they believe. We're all free to determine what gives our meaning purpose. But mine is a belief in God and the divine geometry of the universe is by no accident.
Hoorah!!You are a voice in the wilderness! xxx❤❤❤
No accident. We are here in this world at this time for a reason. May you truly seek and find a group or home church to connect with to be with others who believe.
Praying for you.
Me who thinks a meme is a picture with words over it: 🤔
Yea what was he talking about I was thinking that too
Here's the second entry on the definition of meme: an element of a culture or system of behavior passed from one individual to another by imitation or other nongenetic means. Although the term itself was coined by Richard Dawkins in the 1970s it's obviously something thats been a part of human culture forever. There's an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, "Darmok", where Picard has to learn how to talk to a Tamarian, of which he can understand the words themselves, he just doesn't understand the references and allegory they use to convey meaning because he isn't familiar with the culture and zeitgeist of the civilization. I seen it and thought, oh they just talk in memes basically, because in a very similar way unless you know a meme's context they can mean next to nothing. Imagine sending our memes back 2000 years, they would seem like random images, but to us they can unfold in our minds almost like a book with layers of meaning and ideas packed into a simple picture and line of text. I think of meme's as basically like little corporeal fragments of psychedelic information we get to consume and enjoy in regular reality. Interesting stuff to ponder for sure.
@@Christian_counsellol Dawkins invented the word "meme" which means something else (not completely different) from what it's thought to be today
God bless Jordan Peterson, Russel Brand as well as Joe Rogan 🕊️🙏🏻 God bless this channel too!
God bless your mom for going all night long.
Who hurt you, Geoff?
@@ShiroiTengu Your bf hit me with his handbag.
If Jordan and you think imitating Christ is Christianity you are wrong. What you describe is actually part of the sanctification process occurring AFTER you have already been saved by grace. You are saved only by believing in His substitutionary righteousness on your behalf. Christianity is unlike ANY other religion in as much as you do not 'work' to achieve merit or holiness - it is imputed to you outside of yourself because of your faith in a holy savior. See 2Cor 5:21. After salvation you naturally walk in imitation of Christ because you aspire to be like Him and please and obey him and just because it is the true path of life.
Correct
But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
cogitate...prostrate...emulate
how can you not work to achieve holiness? i'm orthodox and im baptised, meaning im saved. but being saved does not make me a saint neither secures my safety. i have to work myself out in order to achieve holiness or preserve my safety. and that is the defining drive of an orhodox monk. an orthodox monk is called an ascetic for that exact reason, because he is working out his holiness. ascetic comes form the greek "ασκητής" who is the one who practice something, derived from "άσκηση" which literally means 'to work out'. the best way to practice your way to holiness is imitating Christ. in fact, the best way to practice anything in this life is by imitating the best of the best on that particular field you want to practice in.
@@coltcalderock3278I think OP meant you cannot work out your own holiness apart from Christ. The way he wrote that sentence seems to make “holiness” synonymous with “salvation” as in, you cannot conjure up salvation based upon your good works, which is biblical. You absolutely are called to work toward holiness by Scripture, but after confessing sins, submitting to belief in Christ, and receiving the grace of salvation by faith. Then the work to living a holy life begins
We have found faith in the last 12 months. It’s overwhelming and totally uplifting. If you’d told me this a year ago I’d never have believed where I am. Welcome on board Russell. It’s the best decision you and I have made. 🙏
Great vid. I'm subscribed to both JP and RB, but you really tied that together more efficiently than I've seen so far.
Subbed
I have been an atheist most of my life (40+years) and Jordan Peterson has explained Christianity in a way which has questioned my foundation of life just as atheism did those many years ago. I could never bridge the gap of the scientifically impossibility of the bible stories but he has taught me that the stories are fables in which the human brain can understand to as the ways of the universe.
Do some research on the shroud of Turin and the recent findings about it. It might be interesting to you.
That's great. Good to hear. 'My Bright Abyss" is a nice other view too, he was an atheist because he never felt god's presence. But knew that Jesus felt the same thing on the cross "father why have you forssaken me?" Which as a poet resonated. He wrote it while suffering through brutal bone marrow cancer. (Tolstoy's Confessions are great too. Totally different tone.)
@@BenWeeks-ca Before the bible had numeric references, people used to say the first few words of the text as reference. Jesus was referring to Psalm 22. I've added a few lines for you.
Psalm 22:1-5
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from my cries of anguish?
My God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, but I find no rest.
Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the one Israel praises.
In you our ancestors put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.
To you they cried out and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not put to shame.
Good for you for allowing God and His word a foot in the door.
@@djvranish Yes it is amazing that as God Christ is quoting David who was inspired by the Spirit to write laments to God.
People in comments section don’t understand that Peterson leads people to truth and truth is god. He doesn’t have to be religious to be helpful. He’s a stepping stone to understanding god. There is a reason he’s prominent in our time and you are all in the comment section.
Do you believe truth always comports with reality?
The truth is that Jesus Christ shed His precious blood on the cross as a perfect atonement for your sins and mine. All other relative "truth" will send you to hell like a bullet. Accepting that there is a "god" is worthless without accepting Christ who is the creator God (Colossians 1, John 1)which the Bible calls being born again. He that hath the son hath life. He that hath not the son hath not life. 1 John 5:12
@bryanmassa6051 To whom are you addressing your comment?
I think he's done more for Christianity than a lot of professing Christians have as well. Ultimately we are told in the Bible to sort through our own salvation with fear and trembling, so when Christians are constantly accusing people of not being Christian enough, or the wrong denomination of Christian, they have missed the point. Christ is King
@@bryanmassa6051and there ard so many who think they have the Son but do not. And then there are all those myriads who have not eaten His Flesh nor have they drank His Blood.
It's not about acting like Jesus. We can't do anything without Him. We have to be born again with a nature made in the image of Christ to be able to live like Him.
Amen!
Exactly. Peterson is preaching a false gospel, a mix he has made up by his own and the Catholics who surround and pamper him. Without the new birth after repenting, no one will enter the kingdom of heaven. All this "I am be baptized!" will help nothing.
Why again do you say he is preaching a false gospel? I would agree that I don’t believe he’s baptized (yet, God willing), but God is at work in anyone who is seeking him in truth.
I don't buy your doctrine. Even after being born again, you still sin, so you can't claim to be living like Jesus.
@@maejohannsebastian7142 Peterson ISN'T preaching a gospel. He's not a Christian (may that change a.s.a.p.), he just mostly agrees that following the teachings of Christ is good and he's trying to figure them out from his own lens
The 1st few minutes are the BEST explanation ...summarized : Many assume that what religious practice is, is the mouthing of a set of propositions, it’s like a theory of the world. That is not the case. It’s a manner of conducting yourself, directing your attention and acting. The fundamental issue is the actual pattern of ACTION. That’s why the highest level of religious devotion is the imitation of Christ, the attempt to act out the archetype in the confines of your life. BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!
Peterson changed my views on religions as well. Many of the stories in the Bible are symbolic myths and stories not to be taken literally.
And there are similar stories in eastern philosophy and ultimately to live a good life in accordance with God. This perspective changed me.
Well he certainly brought me back to His Most Holy RC Church !!!!!
Most Holy! 🙄 History says otherwise. I think the millions killed by the church as heretics gives a lie to that.Howdid Jesus tell us to act towards our enemies or even those who we disagree theologically with. Certainly not to burn them at the stake!
@@andrewandkaryntoulson1803we are humans, we make mistakes. The church people recognized their mistakes, stopped doing them and apologized. Or did you witnessed burning non Christian at the stake by Christians? The past doesn’t define nobody. Also Jesus said: I forgive you. Go and don’t sin again. The main idea of Christianity is love and forgiveness. It seems you are holding grudges, not being Christian at all btw., against long dead people for deeds that didn’t touch you on a personal or whatever level. So why the hate spitting and spreading? What is the point of your comment? Is the center of your life senseless trolling in internet because you’re bored? I truly do not get it. May God bless you and Christ grant you His peace in your heart and soul.
@@katharina.magdalena I am a Christian and the Roman Catholic church has never apologised for the killing of people it deemed heretics. It's history is steeped in the death of men women and children. You are wilfully blind to the fact that the church you call holy committed horrendous acts of killing that it has NEVER apologised for and in some cases denies it happened!
@andrewandkaryntoulson1803 History?? Propaganda bro!!
@@andrewandkaryntoulson1803You’ve got some twisted history there.
In the beginning was the word. And the word was with god and was god.
Make sure to use big G for God.
@@melissagreene4174 my mistake
Great summary at the end. Thanks
I admire how high functioning these gentlemen are. I dream to be able to communicate and digest to a level that both of these men are showing us here
Read. Keep reading.
Brilliant show Zach, thanks so much! 💘I am quite moved by this episode. So much passion, truth, and dissection of multiple perspectives (ie: science, religion, neuro-medicine, ancient archetypal stories, etc)... all leading to a breakthrough in understanding this very 'meaningful' perspective. Both Peterson & Brand are on fire, so passionate with their discovery of the concept that 'all roads lead to Roman' ...kind of way. Fascinating!!! 🙏
Jordan is not even a Christian.
He cannot say it in public.
God speaks through people. Dont judge.
Appears to be an operation out of Russia. A communist one that has co-opted Christianity. And Peterson, Brand, Putin, Jones, Musk... they're all playing a part in this dialectical strategy which is really just the "alternative" New World Order. But either way, they intend to subvert your liberty.
Yeah
oh no a purity test
@@MrHalo087 I judge, by the spirit, as is befitting to any Christian living in the Spirit.
Jordan FIGHTS people and do everything he can not to say ue believes in Christ.
Its not hars to say "I believe in Jesus Christ, yes. He is Lord over my life."
Its really not hard.
He refuse to do it.
The Bible is clear about that.
I pray he finally yield and follow Jesus. But until then ye isnt.
People are so easily impressed.
They are liatening to Jordan's word as if it was Gospel.
But it isnt.
And to someone in the spirit, it is EASY to hear when God talk.
He doesnt talk thru Jordan.
He uses him. But Jordan is no preacher.
And so people should not treat him as if he was.
He is stuck in his intellectually.
Its not wrong to apply discernment.
People are called to FOLLOW JESUS not a person.
If someone gets followed, instead of pointing to Christ, then he is deturning people FROM CHRIST
This is really bad.
His refusal to submit is actually a sin.
Its out of love for these people AND Jordan that i speak.
He digest the bible and regurgitate it ad an intellectual feast. Reditecting people toward his books and his tought about the subject.
When you follow Christ, you redirect peolle toward the Bible and toward Christ.
There is a world of difference between the 2.
Some people actually think the6 are believers necauae they apply what Jordan teach. And yea moat of what Jordan teach comes from the bible but its with HIS TWIST.
So...its twisted.
Until he submit to Christ PUBLICLY, he is a danger to himself and everyone who actually believe they can be "christ like" witouth being christian.
Its a morally grry area where people say, i am doing my best, i am morally good, and i am bettering myself...OUTSIDE OF CHRIST.
There is no such things.
Everything outside of Christ is death and perdition.
That is bad.
I repeat: JORDAN IS NOT A CHRISTIAN. He should repent and profess publicly.
Peterson doesn’t take the Bible literally. He says so in this video.
Peterson talks a lot of gobbledygook. I don't' think he takes any part of the bible literally.
@@kennygee2715 "gobbledygook" ? what do you mean by your use of gobbledygook?
Peterson reads the Bible in a way that's similar to how the Patristics and Scholastic theologians read the Bible. Peterson's aware there's a "literal" meaning of the text. But every story in the Biblical text also has a three-layered spiritual meaning: moral (tropological), anagogical (or mystical/spiritual meaning of the text in relation to man's final end), and allegorical (think typology here in a way similar to what Augustine means when he said "the New lies hidden in the Old and the Old is unveiled in the New." I'm curious, what do you mean by "literal" because no Christian takes the Bible with extreme literalism comprehensively across the entire text. At face value, even the text lends itself to this multi-layered hermeneutic. For example, when Christ says "...if you right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out..." Obviously he's not encouraging everyone to literally cut out their eye, but rather root out those things in our lives that lead to sin.
@@tedwatkins8620this became so clear to me when Christ said John is Elijah like does he mean that “literally” it’s a dumb question
Jesus said "I am the door of the sheep." I hope you don't think he is an actual door? And why is Jesus always talking about farm animals?
Stunning video - JBP's understanding and integration across disciplines to describe reality is deep, explanatorily powerful. What makes imitation of Christ possible? If JBP believes Christ is the ultimate man, he should believe Jesus' words about who he says he was and what he says he came to do. "For the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve and give his life as a ransom for many."
How did you determine this Jesus spoke any words?
Met Dawkins in person, I wasn't of any religion and a student biology scientist, and I found him the most angry and nasty little man you - wouldn't like the things he says about Christians behind the scenes, it literally brought me to tears just hearing it.
It's because they love truth and disdain lies❤🙌Hallelujah! It's beautiful to watch their journey
Faith!! That's what Mr Peterson is missing..thats all.
100 %.
And that is the part that matters.
I love Jordan Peterson but when speaks about the Bible, it always sounds like an atheist rationalizing and showing deep appreciation for very old stories in an ancient book.
People always ask him if he believes in God and he will skirt the question in a quite sincere way and I believe he truly inwardly struggles with the question but nevertheless doesn't actually answer the question.
I pray that someone would simply ask him to answer as yes or no and tell him that him saying yes means yes, but anything else will be taken as a no and then ask if he proclaims Christ as lord and savior.
Really get him to give a real definitive answer.
He can't fully embrace Jesus until he finally sets down that Darwinistic worldview. Suddenly things will click in him when he does. But I am sure that God has a purpose and timing for that, and in the mean time it's part of the story he's weaving.
He will get there, I started intellectually and in my suffering my faith in Jesus developed! God reaches each of us uniquely. ❤
Nope: he's also missing actual knowledge, replacing it with pseudo-scientific and pseudo-theological, pseudo-metaphysical gibberish that only impresses those who have not idea about any of it.
No wonder JP was with his wife at the Easter Vigil Mass in Toronto when she entered the Catholic Church last week - from 1:26 to 2:08, he sounded like a top-shelf Catholic intellectual. His animation in this video is telling - I've also seen it in videos of JP conversing with Bishop Robert Barron.
Catholicism is what the words sanity and truth are. As Christ presents Himself to us in His sacraments at those ignored old buildings with spires in our communities.
A “top shelf Catholic intellectual,” indeed.
God works is the most interesting and peculiar ways.
Catholic is not Christian. Catholicism is no better than all the other false religions as they will all land you in hell.
I went to a Catholic University and Dr. Peterson reminds me of my philosophy professors in my youth.
@@tommore3263 That's unbiblical and false teaching. Get yourself educated in the bible and read it without the lense Catholics put over you! Get free before it is too late.
From what I have seen and heard Russell say, he is not a Christian in the biblical sense. He mixes eastern mysticism with Christianity which become a false version of Christianity. Sadly, there will be people who will believe Russell's version of it, and be lead down that wide path that leads to destruction.
Matthew 7:13-14 - _"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."_ - Jesus
Matthew 7:15 - _"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves."_ - Jesus
Thank you for using scripture. This is where power is..John 1:1
The most important statement made by Jordan Peterson was in the first question. Emulate Christ in your daily life.
I do love listening to him. He’s a brilliant man.
I enjoyed this video because I enjoy listening to both Jordan and Russell - and I believe you are right, I have noticed in Russell's videos he has been mentioning Jesus more and more. However, I did not hear any moment in that video where Jordan "converted" Russell Brand to Christianity. I'd appreciate if you don't use misleading titles. I think most people would watch anyway because of the participants. Jesus is King. 🙌🙌🙌
Same. I believe that acknowledging who Christ is and having a personal relationship with him is not the same thing. While both are seeking truth, I believe they are still trying to come to that knowledge and their hearts. My prayer is that they will know they are a sinner, and acknowledging that He is the only way, that He paid the price for their sin and that they will come to salvation.
Thank you very much Zach, a wonderful and truthful video with a great message from yourself at the end👍🙏
It is super good that people are talking about Christianity...praise the Lord.. .because we know for sure 50% of the world is almost Islam because they are united front and hang on to their religion. So all Christians..Hindus...etc protect and preserve.
No, there is about 8B humans on earth. About 2B mslims. So 1/4 or approximately 25% of the worlds population is mslims. About the same for Christianity. Little over 2B Christians.
The problem is they will fight for their utopia here on earth. Christians will not fight for anything here because they think theirs comes later.
I worship Porky Pig he's my lord and savior
I wouldn't worry about Islam. They're in a bigger mess then the west.
I meet a lot of muslims, never met a person who i didnt like. Christians though... a post going around at present and on t shirts thats 'There is No Hate Like Christian Love' I guess Islam and Christianity have their fair share of unbalanced fanatics.
You fundamentally don't understand, I think. Atheists do not see any evidence that God exists. Jordan Peterson makes the point that religious stories and lessons are extremely important. You then carry that point on to say that we should follow Christ and imitate him. These are actions to take, which even an unbeliever can do. Nothing about any of this addresses the initial atheist observation that God does not exist. It's probably better to be Christian than an atheist, but this has no bearing on the truth of the matter.
Thank you for relaying the whole conversation and letting them speak for themselves!
I've been reading Jordan Peterson's 12 Rues For Life, and the way he interprets God, the Bible and correlates it with human psychology and upbringing has opened up my eyes to a new way to look at Christianity and religious study.
I grew up Catholic, in an American-Hispanic community, living under separate one parent households and under the California education system. I was devout until high school, and I lost my touch with God, influenced by socialist and racial ideology.
Then I joined the US military at 18 years old as an agnostic, and only slightly suicidal, with a contract to join the Infantry field. I became nihilistic, politically disturbed, and an angry young Marine, and the attitude that comes with those attributes gets encouraged and inflamed when you're in the infantry. Eventually and by the grace of God, I became an Non Commissioned Officer (and a good one according to others) and as I did my best to shape myself to the USMCs ideology of being an NCO, I had attained a newfound confidence that I didn't know at the time would stick with me to the day I type this comment.
When I got out of the military and joined the real world, I struggled for almost a year and a half readapting to civilian society. I observed the world as a young man with hope for humanity. I had faith that the average person was of moral sanity, that the general consensus of society was that you had to work for your paycheck, that the average leader understood it was their goal to lead their people to prosperity.
I became subject to the immoral greed of the state, the uninteractive culture between employee and employer, the socialistic anger of my generation of people in my community, and the shitty work ethic of the average person. Working with the average civilian was nothing like working with my Marines. You are what you eat and you become what you surround yourself with. So I found myself becoming them, and I didn't like it...
I take pride in my service to this country as a Marine, and I take pride in my American immigrant farmworker heritage, and even though I wrestled with God for a while, my Catholic upbringing paved the way for my strong sense of moral direction. I am now more than ever thankful that I was brought up with Jesus in my life, and I know that if it wasnt for the church I would have ended up eating children, raping woman or killing men of my own kind. At 26 years old, I find myself lost in this corrupt world, but not misguided, and thats thanks to God.
An atheist who grows up with God in their youth is still a member of Christian society, and likely shares a lot in common with their faithful counterparts.
An atheist who never heard of God or was never taught the teachings of Christ as a child, is likely unaware of the difference between good and evil.
Oh so many things wrong with Jordan Peterson's take... But I will summarize it with asking; "how does a non-believer "convert" a non-believer.
Everything Peterson says comes from his ability to reason what he is saying.
You are in agreement on Christ with a man who still says he is not in agreement with the bodily resurrection of Christ... Jordan Peterson is still in his own mind ... Not the Word of God... Nowhere in this discourse did Peterson speak the Word of God... He speaks the words of Jordan Peterson
But his philosophy is grounded on the word of god. Of course he could repeat the biblical words, but he discusses them and THINKS THEM OUT, gives awnsers to other people on WHY these are the words of god. He is not a priest but a psychologist who found out that christianity in it's essence is a logical and wise world view that actually keeps our society functioning. And that it did, in regards of the historical point of view.
I have no idea what you are saying after reading this 10 times!
That's true, but you're not speaking the word of God either. Sooo, this is awkward.
Here, have some cake 🍰
What's that, you don't like cake. Have an ice cream 🍦 instead, everybody loves ice cream.
Now that was the word of God 🙌
Jordan Peterson is able to reach those who otherwise would not be reachable. I am one example of a Christian convert first opened to Jesus and the Bible by Jordan through his Bible study videos and his intelligence, openness, honesty, authenticity and humility. He is one of the great intellects of our age who is open to wisdom and compassion beyond his human capacity. I think God has him in exactly the right place and time to bring people open to the Way, the Truth and the Life onto the narrow path that Jesus is and proclaimed. I am living proof. Jordan, like so many others who speak out of Godly integrity and help toward conversion to the truth of Christ. Do not be so quick to blithely dismiss these men and women.
@@seliussanctus3100 I disagree. His philosophy isn't grounded on the Bible, he already had his philosophy and just started checking into how he can support his reasoning by the Bible about 6yrs ago.
And as you said, its because it is "logical and wise", and it keeps society functioning.
He give a quick "honorary mention" to "be like Christ", then goes right back to his reasoning on the positive contribution to society on this earth that Christianity has.
Jesus didn't die to have a positive impact on society in this world, He died so our soul wouldn't pay for the "logical and wise" things we do on this earth... For the "positive impact" Christians have on this earth...
Jordan Peterson has become a symbol of inspiration and salvation for many people in this world including myself a total critical of Christianity and Jesus Christ
Great clip but this title is absolute click bait BS and didn’t even kind of whatsoever happen. Not exactly a good Christian way to conduct yourself
I love how excited they both get when talking about Jesus. It honestly makes me so happy and brings tears to my eyes. Isn't their excitement wonderful?
Salty water flows when you know. ❤
Trust JP to use evolution to destroy evolution lol, what a genius.
Evolution is a process. Saying he is using evolution to destroy evolution is like saying he is using logic to destroy logic. I think what you mean when you say “evolution” is determinism.
@@ktoth29 I know, I know. It was tongue in cheek, not meant literally. Although funnily enough I was just talking about "destroying logic with logic" which has literally been done. Godels incompleteness theorem uses logic to destroy logic. By using the "This statement is a lie" paradox, he takes it further, blows a hole in mathematics and proves that FAITH (yes FAITH) is more fundamental than mathematics. I.E logic requires faith, but faith does not require logic. A very very intriguing read. Here is Roger Penrose explaining it in 3 minutes: m.th-cam.com/video/w11mI67R95I/w-d-xo.html
JP is fine his delusional followers are CRINGE he doesnt even believe in after life simply says religion make people behave more socially acceptable
@@corysmith3447 Our free will... which we experience and which quantum physics affirms is what spiritual means. It is not reducible to your physical deterministic dogmatism which is about 200 years old. You probably don't know what "physical" even means, as most don't. Not even close.
@@tommore3263 quantum menchanics does NOT prove free will in humans, its proving free will in quantum mechanics, not in human conciousnous
Over intellectualism, way over my head. But simple understanding is the way. Why complicate a truth, believe in Jesus, repent and call on His Name.
Simplicity is preferred, but that doesn't work for everyone. Obviously. A better way of looking at this, I think, is a positive story here of people that cannot simply believe as you ostensibly do being able to find a path to belief as well. That is, it's a good thing.
As a side note, speaking of keeping things simple, telling non-believers to repent is pointless. Only believers (or the over-educated that dismiss such things anyway) typically know what "repent" means. Heck, before I started learning about Christianity as a teenager, I thought people that shouted "repent!" were telling me to "grovel" before the Lord. And honestly, even though I know better now, it still sounds like that's what people mean by the way they say it.
I believe it would be more helpful if you say what it means rather than using the word itself. It's like church jargon--chances are if someone knows what it means, they likely don't need to be told to do so.
Who’d have thought the spiritual revival would include this brilliant cast of intellectuals. I’m thrilled.
What "brilliant cast of intellectuals"?
So with all of this... we accept Jesus Christ as the way the truth and the life, making Him Lord and becoming born again. Thank you God for your Son!!!❤❤❤
Essentially, we must die to ourselves to become who GOD intended us to be according to His Divine Will! Beautiful!
I find the religions born from the teachings of Jesus Christ to be superior over the religions born from the teachings of Karl Marx, Herbert Marcus, Kimberly Crenshaw or Ibram Henry Rogers.
When you say carrying your suffering and burden with you no matter what... Are you telling people to hold on to their suffering? Or have I misunderstood, because I would say let go of your suffering, let go of your fear, and go be joyful, especially when out of your comfort zone. God is love, and you can't be close to God if you're carrying around suffering. That's hell.
Perhaps he meant, hold onto it as a Lesson in life rather than remembering the painful part constantly.
@@GaM3RaDaR I wondered if he meant something like that, just wanted to clarify in case anyone takes it the wrong way
we can define god all we want most people have differnt defitinions giving it no sense to the word including higher power soul spirit etc etc
@@corysmith3447 I'm with you on the point of definitions mean different people, and whilst the G word is the worst offender, funnily enough the L word is probably the 2nd worst offender, but a LOT of words if not most words have the same problem. So we may aswell all just sit around in silence 😜
@@corysmith3447 But when I say God is Love. I mean that literally. That feeling you get when your in love. You are literally feeling God ❤️
Thanks for the summary. Was really good
These two beat about the bush like nobody’s business! We Christians have known the truth of God for 2000 years.
Nobody chooses to be a Christian. Salvation is of the Lord. A sinner gets saved through the gospel of Jesus Christ and Him crucified for our sins and risen from the dead for the justification of all who believe in Him. The sinner must come to Christ, in confession and repentance from sin ask Christ for forgiveness and receive Him as your Lord and Savior and then fallow Him for the rest of your life. No turning back.
You sure there’s no choice in your statement?
God bless y’all 🙏✌️
Sure sounds like an educated Catholic.
He sure doesn't.
I'm sceptical about his Christian conversion, time will tell.
You become a Christian when you believe Christ died was buried and rose again for our sin ,he shed his blood for remission of all our sin
What is a Christian? Jordan Peterson is not a Christian. Neither is Russell Brand. They NEED to detail what a Christian is.
Good point, I have heard cage fighters and others who live immoral lifestyles calling themselves Christian! Jesus christ and his early followers would be horrified by the conduct of these people bringing dishonor and shame on God's name. Galatians 5 vs 19-21
Russel Brand is now. Jordan Peterson is as well. Not announcing it to the world is very strategic.
Fake Christians seem to feel the need to be validated by celebrities supposedly converting to it
@@acaydia2982how would you know?😂
You like boxes, dont you? And JP doesnt nicely fit the box with 'Christian' on it, does he?
I’m British born and bread, and I don’t understand a word Jordan Peterson is saying here!
Get a dictionary out. That's not his fault.
Bread? I think there is a clue somewhere... 😊
😂
I’m Kenyan born, bred and raised and I understood everything.
@@hamdoolam A dictionary offers definitions, it's not going to go into the depth that would help to understand this conversation, fully. Being an asshole is super helpful though. Keep it up.
Now that
Dawkins is confronted with the
Islamification of
Britain
He would rather it be
Christian
Surprise😂🇦🇺🇮🇱✌️🇬🇧
Where did Dawkins say he'd rather be Christian?
@@TheoSkeptomairead more carefully
@@TheoSkeptomaiHe said he’d prefer Britain to remain culturally Christian after seeing how far it has moved towards Islam because Christianity is “a fundamentally decent religion.”
@josephbrown9685 Yes. I know.
After being an Athiest for most of my 40 years. I accepted Jesus 2 years ago. This is the way. This is the light. Jesus is the way. Praise HIS glorious name.
J.P.: "....analogues of the biological substrate that's representing them...."
🤔
Pontius Pilate: "What is truth?"
Jesus: "i AM the truth." 💥
I agree with everything you said Zack. The Bible is absolute truth and we are in it. We are on stage…earth. God knows the beginning from the end and Christians must take up their cross and follow Jesus. Jesus stumbled and accepted help from Simon of Cerene . We should help one another. We are in His family. Jesus showed us the way…..so that we would have life and life more abundantly. Thank you so much for this talk on your channel.
Simon of Cyrene:)
I agree with everything you said, apart from one thing. (Bible=Absolute truth). It's things like that that repulse the atheists which then reject everything else that follows. God is real, but the Bible is not absolute truth. It's a mess, with some truth and lots of bullshit. But as JP says, don't throw the baby out with the bath water
The Bible is a Catholic book the protestant Bible is an incomplete and corrupted Catholic book which I’d rip up. Please read my other comment.
Pretty simple that the Bible I'd just a story told to keep people in line back in the day. It's pretty humane to think there's a God and heaven and he'll.. it'd kinda rediculas when you actually think about it
@@jordanmcmullen8454 JP addresses this in the video. Lots of negatives about the Bible, because there will always be power hungry people seeking to take over. But it's important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater
The grace of our LORD JESUS CHRIST be with you all 🙌
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Have Jorden Peterson said Jesus is his lord and saviour?
Is christianity merely mouthing somewords? Or acting them out? Isnt praying out loud a sin? When will christians and catholics read the bible, thats the enigma
@@JosephSmitsGoldenplatesimhalla we have
@@daelinproudmore5068 Matthew 6:1
1. Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
5. “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
6. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
? Why cant christians just read the bible?
@@JosephSmitsGoldenplatesimhallano, praying out loud is not a sin
@@daelinproudmore5068 Matthew 6:5-6, “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”
I suicided and met God… He told me I had a choice and urged me to choose life. I wept and said, “oh but it’s too late!!! I’ve taken these many tablets” (as a Registered Nurse, I knew what I was doing)… He said again, “Choose Me and choose life!” So I made the choice. I woke up 3 days later, covered in vomit, BUT I LIVED!!! And am so VERY THANKFUL that I did!
God does exist! And NO ONE can tell me He doesn’t!!
I’m still stupid often but, hopefully, choose the best way forward mostly. But THANK GOD, I’m forgiven and I’m saved - regardless of what happens next! He IS A GREAT AND GOOD GOD! It is people who make mistakes and give Him a bad name - but He didn’t do those things that others blame Him for!!!
JESUS PAID THE PRICE FOR MY SINS (& yours!) I have been ransomed - as in the old history - a sacrifice was required to take away sins - AND JESUS CHRIST WAS OURS. Just turn to Him right now! He loves you and wants to give you the better life that He planned for you to have!!!
As much as the video clip between the Peterson and Brand was compelling, your final comment at the end of the video encapsulates what these 2 men are finally figuring out. Extremely well stated Going to share that clip!
In 2020 I watch JP crying talking about Jesus and I knew he had encountered Jesus then I heard in my spirit that this will be a Saul to Paul Season and JP was the satirist but also I knew Russell would be shifting and a few others. It’s been beautiful to watch!! God is so good!!
The talk about props in a play brought me back to The Prince of Egypt.
"A single thread in a tapestry, though it's colour brightly shine, can never see it's purpose in the pattern of the grand design."
I love these kinds of conversations! These are honest and productive discussions. Whether we agree or not, we should converse with civility. I LOVE IT!
Uplifted again as always. Thanks.
I find the conversation intellectually satisfying, no doubt. I relish in the electricity and passion with which he speaks, full of wonder and determination to validate Christ. Ultimately a lot of words to say- Christ is the way, the truth and the light. Knowing God is literally eternal life, accepting him as your Lord and savior is all that is required of you. Once done in earnest, your burdens can be laid down, despite what comes you know you are redeemed, will prosper and will be delivered. Peace will be with you and the world will know peace.
When finding God becomes fashionable it has become idolatry. The scripture says “having a form of godliness but deny its power; have nothing to do with them.”