Hi Melissa! I just bought this today and I KNEW I could count on you to direct me on using it properly. What would we do without you!!!?😃….why hasn’t the Ordinary hired you as their top model and spokesperson 🤷🏻♀️….. love you Melissa! Thank you again!!!!!
Hello Monica :) Haha, yes I have every product on my channel 😜: Here is the playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLEZmBwdHv3M8OAbstj1vg3SYrG4vhxSA2.html They don't know about me 😜 And thank you 😃
Thank you, so much for making these videos. I was confused by the Ordinary and your videos, really helped me to succeed in building a successful skin care routine.
I just ordered this, I thoroughly read some research, looked at many reviews..and had to try this!! I've never been let down by The Ordinary products. This product had very impressive reviews. I appreciate the demonstration on using it!
I would be lost without you thank you so much for all of your videos! You are to the point & helpful. I hope the ordinary is giving you some sort of commission because you deserve it
I recently bought TO Pycnogenol and was looking for a video to help me incorporate it into my routine. This video was very informative and helpful. Thank you!
Hej Melissa! Thanks to you, you helped me understand and how to use the ordinary products/combination to their fullest. I recently bought for my winter morning routine: Ascorbyl glucoside mix with COSRX Snail 96 Mucin Power Essence, pycnogenol, NMF+HA. Thank you again for your easy to understand demonstration videos
Hello Melissa, i watched yestarday your routine for over 50 years, and i am verry excited that you explained verry well with details what products to use on each day of the week, now when i wanted to see how to use Pycnogenol, i saw that you recomended to be combine with vit C, what i wanted to ask : ”it is ok to layer on face after Pycnogenol, THE INKEY LIST 15% VITAMIN C & EGF ?” thank you for all your documeted work wich help us to take care of our skin (PS : in december i will have 50 years) 😇
Hello Mihaela, Yes, you can use them together, but I suggest using The Inkey List 15% Vitamin C before Pycnogenol because of its formulation. If you do not reply or comment anymore, I already wish you well and hope all your birthday wishes come true! 🙂
I absolutely love how you have been replying to every comment omg so so so sweet! Can you please please please suggest what order I can mix ordinary products in for AM and PM routine for active acne, clogged pores and textured skin? I have wrinkles under eyes and I'm 22. I'm currently using glycolic acid at night and niacinamide during the day. My skin type is oily and combination. Thank you in advance! You rock 🤘
For that, I recommend not using Glycolic Acid but Salicylic Acid instead, as Glycolic Acid cannot unclog pores. I suggest watching the following video: The Ordinary Skincare Routine for Oily Acne Prone Skin: th-cam.com/video/BoLMjpkcDSw/w-d-xo.html
Hi, thanks for all videos! What do you think about my routine below? 1- cleaning 2- hyaluronic acid on wet face 3- pycnogenol 5% 4- mix of niacinamide powder with Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA Also once a week SolutionAHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeling Solution, and once a week MasqueSalicylic Acid 2% Masque I’d appreciate any comments :) Thanks!
Here is the correct order to avoid pilling, layering issues, and sensitivities: Clean face Take a clean towel and pat all over to remove the excess water from the skin surface Mix hyaluronic acid with niacinamide powder Wait 1 minute Apply Pycnogenol 5% Wait 1 minute Apply Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA And don't confuse damp and wet skin. How to apply Skincare on Damp Skin?: th-cam.com/video/xNUUUr81rLE/w-d-xo.html
Hi Melissa, thank you so much for your videos and taking the time to respond to all our questions. I’d be lost with the ordinary products without your video guidance. My question is should I mix Pycnogenol and Vit C suspension (30%) in the palm of my hands or by layering? Thank you so much!
Love your videos! So incredibly helpful. What is according to your opinion the best ( most effective) Vitamin C serum for a beginner with dehydrated skin (if that plays a role)? I watched so many videos about different brands but I trust your opinion because you are clearly experienced. Also, do you think it makes a difference if you mix the pycnogenol with a product or apply it afterwards? Thx for your effort and work!!
Hello Tina, From my experience, you can mix The Ordinary Vitamin C powder with Marine Hyaluronics or Hyaluronic Acid and a bit of their Ferulic Acid or Pycnogenol. It works just as well as the other serums, but you need to buy several products, which may be more expensive. So the best would be just to get a mixed formulation such as Geek and Gorgeous C-Glow, which contains 15% of Ascorbic Acid at a very affordable price, and keeping it in the fridge after using it which makes it last for several months! And I am skeptical about all these derivatives. For example, Ascorbyl Glucoside and Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (which is not available anymore, but I liked it a lot) may work well. Still, I haven't had the chance to test it long enough, so I don't know 😉 The trials I have done on myself and which you can find on my channel, did not show very promising results; it faded but really did not know how much my skin has done by itself.
Hey, Thank you for your informative videos! I really appreciate your content! I wanted to ask, what do you think about my routine? In the morning 1. Cleanse 2. Hyaluronic acid 3. Pycnogenol 4. Natural moisturizing Evening 1. Cleanse 2. Hyaluronic acid 3. Alpha Arbutin 4. Moisturiser I also have resveratrol 3% and retinol 0.5% but I don’t know how to incorporate that. It’d mean a lot if you could help me!
Overall, your skincare routine looks great! You could consider alternating between Pycnogenol and Resveratrol + Ferulic Acid in your AM routine. Personally, I prefer Pycnogenol. When it comes to Retinol, use it in the evening and alternate with Alpha Arbutin for the best results 😊
Hi! I love your videos :) I would like to know if I can mix Pycnogenol with the Resveratol + Ferulic acid. It sounds like a bomb of antioxidants, have you tried it? thanks in advance
Hello 🙂 wow, you are a long term subscriber THX ❤️ Hm, the combination wouldn't be that bad, and there is also no reason you could not do it. But no, I have never tried it. Maybe try it and let me know about the results. 🤪
It may work; I haven't tried that. However, personally, I wouldn't do it, mainly due to the formulation and the risk of it becoming too potent. Therefore, I would use Pynogenol in the AM and Retinol in the PM.
Hey Melissa..explained with such ease...Can you advise the best routine and layering order with Pycnogenol, cosrx snail mucin & ordinary granactive retinoid ? looking for a PM routine.. Thanks :)
Hello, Technically, you would layer them in the following order: Clean your face with a non-exfoliating acid cleanser suitable for your skin type. Pat dry with a clean towel. Apply snail mucin and give it 30 seconds to 1 minute to absorb. Apply pycnogenol and give it 30 seconds to 1 minute to absorb. Apply granactive retinoid. However, based on my experience and the comments I often receive, the combination of pycnogenol and retinol can sometimes lead to irritation or sensitivities. Therefore, I would suggest using them at different times.
Dear Melli, I have recently got Ordinary Pycnogenol. Effectiveness wise, wat would be better : to use it alone? To mix with Vitamin C serum? To mix with retinol or peptides? To mix with moisturizer?
Hi Melissa! I find your video very educative. Please, could you give me an advice. If I mix pycongenol with vit C suspension, can I use HA serum before that and can I use moisturizing cream after applying mix of pycongenol + vit C? Is that to much in one routine? Is that correct? Thanks for your time! Anamaria
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you for answer. Do I need moisturizing cream after I mix pycongenol with vit C? Or I don't need to end my routine with moiusturizing cream? I understand if I use: 1. HA serum 2. Pycongenol 3. Moisturizing cream But if I mix pycongenol with vit C for example, to I need end routine with moisturizing cream?
Hey 🙂yes, it does not conflict with Glycolic Acid. If you want to learn more, you can watch the following video: The Ordinary For Beginners: th-cam.com/video/diaLVk_EsI4/w-d-xo.html
It's not meant for the lips and eye area, so therefore I recommend to avoid it. But you can ask The Ordinary customer service which you can do here: deciem.com/en-us/contact-us.html
Hiee Melissa, thank you so much for this informative video. Could you please tell me if it can be used to treat hyperpigmentation around the mouth area?
Hi Melissa! I'm planning to add this product in my evening routine. My evening routine is: Cleanser > Toner > Niacinamide > Hyaluronic Acid > Retinol. Is it okay to add this after HA? Thank you!!
Hey! :) Do you use The Ordinary Retinol? If so, I wouldn’t recommend it, as it can layer extremely uncomfortably. What's your AM routine? Do you use your Retinol daily in the evening?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you for replying! :) Yes, I use TO Retinol daily in the evening. The products I use are all from TO. My AM routine is Cleanser > Toner > Niacinamide > Hyaluronic Acid > Azelaic acid > Moisturizer > Sunscreen. Is it okay to use niacinamide and HA together with pycnogenol?
@@chelsisig yes, you can do that. However, from my experience when using multiple Anhydrous Solutions (formulations without water that have an oily texture), it does not layer well or stays on the skin surface, making it uncomfortable. But if you do not mind that feeling, go ahead; they do not conflict.
Dear Melissa ordinary vit c suspension 23 % gave me bad acne so I stopped using it ..now I use Klairs vit c ..n it suits me Can I use it with klairs as under Cleaning ( I do oil cleaning only ) Hylauronic acid Klairs vit c Ordinary Pcygenol La roche sunscreen
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet don’t know dear ! Even buffet and rose hip gave me really bad acne ! Once you said buffet gave you too breakouts ! How do use it now ? I tried buffet alone , with alovera gel , with niacinamide , with rose hip ..nothings helps ..it gives me bumps next day !
@@IIKkinjalPragyaanII What cleanser do you use? I do not use Buffet anymore. But from what I can tell is that the cleanser can make a huge difference. Also if the face isn't washed correctly, and sometimes it's just the product or hormones etc. If you are new to the products, it may cause a reaction, and you need to adjust to it. This may take a few weeks based on my experience. But as you already said I still have problems with Buffet so sometimes it just does not work. To figure out the reason you need to see a dermatologist or just use different products ;)
Oh my, I've been using a full spoonful of the Vitamin C powder. Perhaps I should ease off. It does sting and I got an abrasion like effect on my neck. Thank you for the info.
Hello Melissa! I love your videos, they helped me a lot. I'd like to ask you for help, because I am trying to figure out something but I am not sure. I've been using pycnogenol for a while now and loving it; I usually mix it with my daily moisturizer (or apply it before moisturizer), then I realized my moisturizer contains peptides, but I don't understand if they're the same that conflicts with pycnogenol (like the ones in the Buffet). Could you help me figuring it out? The moisturizer I am talking about is Holy Hydration Face Cream - fragrance free by E.L.F. cosmetics! (I also use the night mask from the same line) Honestly I did not have any issues but you never know, maybe I am reducing the pycnogenol effect without knowing! Thank you very much
Do you know if this can be mixed with their caffeine solution and Azelaic Acid Suspension 10%? If yes, what shoul i put first on my skin? i would love some advice :) thnx
Yes, here's the recommended routine: Wash your face. Gently pat your face dry. Apply the caffeine solution. Follow with the application of pycnogenol. Finally, apply the azelaic acid. Remember to give each product around 30 seconds to 1 minute to absorb before proceeding to the next step, if necessary.
hello melissa! i'm 25 with sensitive, mixed skin and some fine lines, and I use ascorbyl glucoside solution 12% and pycnogenol in the morning, and hyaluronic acid and retinol 0.2% at night. what would you change? what would you add? i'd like to try niacinamide+zinc, where would you put it and in what order?
Hello 😃 There are many options, but I would only change something if it isn't working for you. But to see that, you need to use it consistently for a few months. You can add Niacinamide, and I would probably use it before retinol in the evening. The Ordinary For Beginners: th-cam.com/video/diaLVk_EsI4/w-d-xo.html
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you so much, melissa. Well, this is the first year i've done something for my skin, i have really bad eczema and my skin has always been overreactive to anything i put on it, so i never put anything on it (no creams, no sunscreen, no makeup. just water and soap.), but since getting treatment (i still have to take antihistaminse for it everyday), my skin has been able to tolerate stuff, so i started getting into skincare and watching your videos! I used topical steroids earlier this year, and they're good for treating eczema, but they'll make your skin thinner. Now i'm off them and i'm trying to take really good care of my skin! Still no make-up (i don't know if i'll ever get there, or if i'll ever even want to get there|), only skincare! I've been consistently using this routine for maybe 5 weeks? and my skin has literally never looked this good, so i want to keep at it! I still have a few pimples on my forehead and on the sides of my face, which is why i thought i could add niacinamide. I'll try and report back! Do you have any suggestions for a toner? I saw the glycolic acid one from the ordinary but i don't think it would be wise to add an acid? your channel is amazing, thank you for what you do. i hope you get more traffic! I'll be around
@@aureaproportio Okay, that's quite a story. 😞 If your skin is that sensitive, it may not be a good idea to add such a strong acid. Glycolic Acid is the strongest AHA that they offer. And generally, for sensitive skin types, a PHA(which The Ordinary does not provide) is recommended or maybe Mandelic Acid. From my experience, pimples are very hard to target and keep under control, if mainly caused by hormones/stress, etc. So I am dealing with this a lot. Niacinamide helps to calm down the redness, and it may work over the long haul, and if you only have a few, it's worth a try. But in general, if your skin is that sensitive, I wouldn't add too much at a time and always wait a few weeks before adding new products to it not to overwhelm it. That's something I always do when trying new products; otherwise, it can quickly lead to stinging burning or redness, and you have to start all over again. If you want to use a hydrating toner, go with Paula's Choice. (just choose the one suitable for your skintype) For exfoliating acid toner, The Inkey List PHA Toner or Geek and Gorgeous PHA toner.
I love this serum I use it by dropping vit c serum on my face directly then quickly dropping pycogenol on face directly then just massaging ( mixing) both serums in while there both on my face. Do I need to be mixing them in my hand first ?
Hi, Can you let me know what I can mix Pycnogenol in my Nighy time routine? I'm using buffet and Granactive Retinoid 5% in sqalane. Thank you! Love your Chanel! Always helpful! x
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you for your reply, my morning routine is, The ordinary Pycnogenol, niacinamide.amd hylaronicacid, could I add it to this routine instead? 😊
i’m thinking about adding Pycnogenol in my morning routine with my vitamin c, but i also like to use a CoQ10 toner in that routine. is there a conflict between the Pycnogenol and CoQ10?
hey, so I'm trying to create a routine with some products which are: -the Ordinary - Anti-blemish formula, 10% niacinamide + 1% zinc, high concentration of vitamins and minerals, -The Ordinary Pycnogenol 5% -L'Orealcerave Body Lotion -CeraVe Moisturizing Cleansing Lotion with these products I'm trying to get rid of some pimples and get better skin. My problem is i don't know when to use them and how... when is better to use them (night or morning) any suggestionor or explantion what is better to be combinated
Hey :) So you can use Niacinamide and Pycnogenol in the same routine, or to keep it simpler, use one in the AM and the other one in the PM. AM and/or PM Routine: - Cleanse - Niacinamide (Optional) - Pycongenol (Optional) - Moisturizer - SPF (AM) OR AM Routine: - Cleanse - Pycongenol - Moisturizer - SPF (AM) PM Routine: - Cleanse - Niacinamide (Optional) - Moisturizer Hope this helps :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you so much, it's a big help... but i have one more question Do I wash the face after the clenser or leve it and continue putting the other prouducts? And also does it matter that i will use these products every day (i mean is it better if i use them all the time or some of them few times a week?) or mix them for example put first the niacinamide and then on top pycnogenol and then moistruzer...:\ (or is better if i wash it in between)
Thanks a lot for the video. I’m 30 and I’m from India. Had a few doubts. Can I use Niacinamide, Pycnogenol and Azelaic Acid (in this order) on every alternate night? Also what about Niacinamide, Pycnogenol and Granactive Retinoid 2% Emulsion (in the same order) on every alternate night?
Yes, you can use these products together, and for the frequency, you really need to see how it goes since it is individual. But technically, you could use them daily if tolerated.
Hi Melissa! 🥰 Thanks for sharing about the Pycnogenol 5%. I looked you right away having this product in my mind as I always do look for you when I need guidance on The Ordinary products. I have been using TO Lactid Acid 10% together with TO Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5 serum and finish it with the Moisturizing Factors Moisturizer. I've almost finish the above products and so I would like to try other products from The Ordinary like the Pycnogenol 5% and Alpha Arbutin + HA and Glycolic Toner 7% Can I use it in this order, please correct me if I am wrong. Morning:- Cleanser (other brand) Toner ( other brand) Alpha Arbutin + HA Natural Moisturizing Factors moisturizer Evening:- Cleanser (other brand) Glycolic Acid Toner 7% Alpha Arbutin +HA Pycnogenol 5% Natural Moisturizing Factors moisturizer. Also is there any where in the routine I could add TO Vit C Powder for better effects/benefits with Pycnogenol Or Pycnogenol is best on its own? I've tried TO vitamin C powder sometime back but it caused a gritty feeling. Maybe I must have used too much of it. Hope you could guide me. Thanks. 🤗
Hey! :) I recommend using Pycnogenol in the AM instead. You can use your Vitamin C powder with Pycnogenol, use this combo in the AM and then Glycolic Acid and Alpha Arbutin in the PM. You do not need a lot of powder. Also, you may need to blend it for a bit longer in the palm of your hand before applying it. If it still feels too gritty, mix the Vitamin C powder with your moisturizer instead. See here a guide: How To Use The Ordinary 100% L Ascorbic Acid Vitamin C Powder: th-cam.com/video/Z09cKmcx81c/w-d-xo.html
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thanks for your reply Melissa! 🤗 So it's better for Alpha Arbutin in the PM and Vit C in the AM. Because I thought Vit C at AM would cause skin irritation/burn? Which is a better mixture, Vit C mixed with Pycnogenol or Vit C mixed with Natural Moisturizing Factors moisturizer and layered on top of Pycnogenol? Can I use Pycnogenol over Alpha Arbutin before moisturizer?
@@butterfliesONrainbows Well, when mixing your Vitamin C with Pycnogenol - it's a great antioxidant combination that you can use in the AM as well. Still, you would need to follow with sunscreen during the day when being exposed to the sun. However, you can use this combo in the PM as well. Either mixture is fine. Test it! :) Use Pycnogenol after Alpha Arbutin.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hi Melissa, sorry to bother you.🤗 While shopping the Ordinary, I came across the Vit C Suspension 23% with HA spheres 2% and the other is Vit C suspension 30% in silicone. Can I use one of the above instead of the Ordinary L ascorbic 100% powder after the application of Pynocenol 5% ? If can, should I still layer the Natural Moisturizing Factors over the Vit C suspension 23% with HA spheres or it's good on it's own? Also is the one with silicone beneficial for combination to dry skin or will it clog pores? I know it's a lot of questions, please take your time to reply me. Thanks again!! 🤗
hello melissa, i have this and lactic acid, how should i use these two? start with the lactic acid and then use the pycnogenol 5%, and finish with the moisturizer? thank you :)
Hello Nishat, No, it does not cause sun sensitivity. It actually has a protective effect; still, this is not enough to protect sun rays from damaging your skin. So my advice would be to use sunscreen still when exposed to the sun.
The feeling could be better (oily, too heavy), and sometimes it causes problems because it is potent; therefore, I do not recommend it. But it is technically okay, and they do not conflict.
Dear Melli, Until now I have been using vitamin C serums on dry skin as everyone used to tell that water oxidizes vitamin C. I am little confused now as recently I came to know that Timeless serum should be applied on damp skin. Kindly guide
Most treatments should be applied to damp skin, the reason for this is that they absorb better. Damp skin is when the skin has been dried off on the skin surface just after cleansing. Wash face take a towel and pat it dry (remove the remaining water drops from the skin's surface) Now the skin is damp and stays that way for several minutes That is when you should apply the product How to apply Skincare on Damp Skin?: th-cam.com/video/xNUUUr81rLE/w-d-xo.html It is NOT Wash face leave the skin wet (so that there are water drops all over) Apply product
@@gracefulgirl8141 To all the skincare products except for strong retinol/retinoids and AHA/BHA formulations. There you may want to wait 5-10minutes after cleansing before applying it.
Hello! Your content is amazing, so clear and helpful - I was just wondering whether you’d be able to help me with my skin routine please? Sorry this may be long! I’d say my skin is heavily combination, I get eczema on my forehead along with dry patches on my cheeks. My skin can also get oily on the forehead and It’s covered in clogged pores that I’ve had for years, I’m pretty acne prone and get spots frequently (probably over touching my face). I’m 21 so not many fine lines but I’d like to prevent them - my skin is also quite dehydrated so looks very papery and dull. Fore the last month my routine has been Am Cetaphile gentle cleanser Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% Argireline solution 10% 100% plant derived Squalane Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème Pm (alternating) Cetaphile gentle cleanser Either Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% OR mandelic acid 10% + HA 100% plant derived Squalane Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème As of now, I can tell my skin barrier is a lot better, and some of the clogged pores are going down - skin is definitely looking more even and more plump/less dry. I am looking to have an alternating AM and PM routine every other day and would like to know how they sound? I will of course be intergrating each product slowly but wanted to know whether I’d be using too many or if they’re doing the same thing. Am 1 Cetaphile gentle cleanser Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5 Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% Argireline solution 10% 100% organic pressed rose hip seed oil Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50 PM 1 Cetaphile gentle cleanser mandelic acid 10% + HA Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5 Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% B oil Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème AM 2 Cetaphile gentle cleanser Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5 Ascorbyl tetraisopalmitate solution 20% in vitamin F Pycnogenol 5% 100% plant derived squalane Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50 PM 2 Cetaphile gentle cleanser Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5 Retinol 0.2% in squalane B oil Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème I was planning on moving the oils around depending on what my skin needs but I’m not sure if the caffeine solution and order of the products are correct, or whether I’m just over complicating it way too much! Should I look for products that combine some of these to simplify? Thanks!
I wouldn't add too many products...and skip Hyaluronic Acid. Using Pycnogenol and Tetraisopalmitate in the same routine can feel too oily/heavy. I wouldn't use them in the same routine. Either use one of them or use one in the AM and the other in the PM. You probably don't need any additional oils when using them as they feel like an oil. Same when using The Ordinary Retinol in Squalane as it is already in Squalane. Why do you want to use the Caffeine Solution? Do you have a dry eye area? If so, I wouldn't recommend it because it can make the skin around the eye drier. So, looking into a cream would be another option. Let me know how you want it, and I will help you with the order.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you so much! Appreciate the help. I’ll be taking the Hyaluronic acid out as the pycnogenol should do the trick, along with the B oil as it will probably clog pores. I suffer from some dark under eye circles - not particularly dry or puffy though so I’m hoping it will reduce the darkness as I don’t like wearing makeup anymore. I am currently stuck between Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate Solution 20% and Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12% as id originally thought the glucoside may be irritating/drying on my eczema, but now I’m thinking the tetraisopalmitate might be too pore clogging - do you have a preference or any advice for the best form of vitamin C? I was considering the LAA powder but wasn’t sure what to mix with that could reduce irritation. My other question is whether you would recommend the Granactive Retinoid Serum 2% in squalane or the Retinol Serum 0.2% in Squalane. I’d heard that the retinol can be drying/irritating but wasn’t too worried as I’d start slow and follow with the pycnogenol. Now I am considering the retinoid as it can be more hydrating but am aware there is less research behind it - do you have a preference here? Thanks so much! I doubt I will re buy argireline once I move to retinol, but routine now looks like this: Am 1 - Cetaphil gentle cleanser - Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC - Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% - Argireline solution 10% - 100% plant derived squalane - Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème - La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50 PM 1 - Cetaphil gentle cleanser - mandelic acid 10% + HA - Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% - Pycnogenol (or squalane?) - Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème AM 2 - Cetaphil gentle cleanser - Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC - Argireline solution 10% - Ascorbyl tetraisopalmitate solution 20% in vitamin F - 100% plant derived squalane (if I chose the glucoside instead) - Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème - La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50 PM 2 - Cetaphil gentle cleanser - Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% - Retinol 0.2% in squalane - Pycogneol - Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème Feel free to suggest any changes if you have any better options, thanks x
@@BugBugK I would do it like this: Am 1 - Cetaphil gentle cleanser - Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC - Argireline solution 10% - Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% - Pycnogenol - Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème - La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50 PM 1 - Cetaphil gentle cleanser - Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% - Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution - mandelic acid 10% + HA - Ascorbyl tetraisopalmitate solution 20% in vitamin F (instead of Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution or Squalane) - Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème PM 2 - Cetaphil gentle cleanser - Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% - Retinol or Granactive Retinoid - Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème I wouldn't use too many oil-type products in the same routine. Either go with an oil or Pycnogenol or Tetraisopalmitate. As for your Retinol, either one of them is fine! Personally, I prefer water-based products so I would choose The Ordinary Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution over Tetraisopalmitate. The only oil-type product that I like is The Ordinary B-Oil😊
Hi! I’ve Jist revived my ordinary products..I have the glycolic toner, niamicide, lactic acidosis and peeling solution. Can you tell me how’s best to create a skin care routine with these? Thankyou!💗
Hello, I can help you and provide you the information this way, you will learn much more!❤️ Glycolic Acid Toner = Leave on Exfoliant Niacinamide = Water-Based Serum Lactic Acid = Leave on Exfoliant Peeling Solution = Rinse of Mask (th-cam.com/video/wSY0pYcy8KY/w-d-xo.html) The general rule of thumb for order of application is: 1. Water-based serums 2. Anhydrous Solutions and Oil Formulations 3. Lotions & Creams & suspensions Important: If you have more than one water-based serum, you can apply based on the priority of your concern (the product that targets the most important concern should go first). And it’s recommended applying eye-serums (such as Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG) first after cleansing. It’s recommended using no more than 3 serum formulations in a single routine for optimal skin penetration. About 2-3 drops of each serum and 1 pea-sized amount of creams should be enough for the full face and neck. Use a "patting" application method, as opposed to "rubbing." Always apply sunscreen when you are exposed to the sun!! Some products can have a foaming effect upon application depending on the other products you are using in your regimen. The foaming should not last longer than a few seconds and both should not remain sticky once absorbed into the skin. (Video: th-cam.com/video/r04W7rQV1R0/w-d-xo.html) "Pilling" (snakeskin, shedding) can occur due to too much product. Your skin can only absorb a certain amount of product, and any excess will be left on top of the skin so that when the next product is being applied, it rubs off. (Video: th-cam.com/video/l_C7HtO826A/w-d-xo.html) If you wish to incorporate multiple Vitamin C's, Retinoids, and/or Direct Acids into your skincare regimen, it's suggested using them on alternate evenings and waiting until your skin has adjusted to one before introducing another. How to Create a Skincare Routine With The Ordinary Products - A Beginners Guide: th-cam.com/video/png_aAg5B0A/w-d-xo.html
Hi Melissa !! This can use with direct acids ? I know u say in the video No. But I find a pdf on Deciem that say Yes is there any changes since this video is old or it keeps a No with Acids ? Thanks !
Hello Denise, Hm, no, it can be used with direct acids; you just should not use it with Buffet Copper Peptides 0:47 I think that you are referring to EUK 134 However, be careful with the Ordinary antioxidants; from my experience, they are very potent and often lead to irritation when combined with potent retinol/retinoids Vitamin C (low pH) or exfoliating acids.
Hi, I just discovered your channel and I'm loving it already. I've recently gotten into skincare and I've a few doubts. Can we use pycnogenol after Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12%? Also, how about this routine 1. Cleansing 2. Toning - ONE THING Galactomyces Ferment Filtrate 3. Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12% 4. Moisturizer + pycnogenol Also, can I pair Corx Snail Mucin with Niacinamide and other Ordinary Serums?
Hi Melissa, I’m planning to try these products from TO can you please help me to make my routine Am and Pm please Am Cerave cleanser Alpha arbutin Niacinamide Pycogenol 5% Cerave sunscreen Pm Cerave cleanser Glycolic acid 7% toning solution Matrixyl 10% + HA Argireline 10% Vit C suspension 30% in silicone Thank you in advance Melissa ❤️
The order of application looks good. However, The Ordinary Peptides (Matrixyl and Argireline) should not be used with Glycolic Acid. Also, I do not recommend using Glycolic Acid and the Vitamin C Suspension in the same routine, this can be a pretty strong combination. Use your Peptides in the AM and Niacinamide and Alpha Arbutin in the PM. Create two PM routines and alternate between Glycolic Acid and Vitamin C Suspension. See here: How to use The Ordinary Glycolic Acid 7% Toning Solution in a Skincare Routine: th-cam.com/video/NE3j3LPcaGE/w-d-xo.html
When I apply Pycnogenol it feels like it's "dissolving" the water based serums I applied before. Like it's peeling the skin. Is it normal? Great video btw!!
Update: I followed your tips and it isn't pilling any more! But, i tried mix it with Vitamin C and after around 5-10mins my face was feeling hot, itchy and had red spots. I applied it again today after Hyaluronic Acid and nothing else but the same happened again.. :( The first 2 times i applied it i didnt have any problem. Strange.. I don't think i will use it again, maybe one more time alone by itself.
@@memakigr Hey again! Great to hear that it isn't pilling anymore! :) What Vitamin C do you use? Have you layered or mixed your Vitamin C and Pycnogenol? Also, have you ever used Vitamin C before and on its own? Since using Pycnogenol and Vitamin C together shouldn't be a problem, this is in fact a great combination! If your skin feels warm/hot and you may experience tingling, that's normal since if you are new to those products your skin needs time to adjust to it which usually should become better the more often you are using it. However, if red spots are appearing, I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign😅
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hello!! I'm using Clinique's Fresh Pressed Vitamin C for a while without a problem. I mixed it in my palm, 2 drops each. I thought it was normal to feel warm but then i looked in the mirror and my face was full with red blotches.. I will give Pycnogenol one more try without using any other product before or after and will see.. Thanks for the response! :)
Hello Melissa, can u inform me if we can mix 2 or 3 drops of the Ordinary Amino Acids with 1 drop of The Ordinary Pycnogenol 5% after cleansing our face and before Moisturiser ?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet oh it wouldn't allow me to add links here. Glowing gorgeous is the site. Article name: The Ordinary Ultimate Guide To Mixing & Layering. Oh and in the same regime would it be okay to use niacinamide before pycnogenol? Rather than hyaluronic acid? Thank you for getting back to me!!
@@sapoosh I found it. And no, it is not true. But mixing them in the palm of your hand may not work well because Pygnogenol it is an Anhydrous Solution and wouldn't mix correctly, also creating a smeary texture which does not absorb well into the skin. Therefore it is always best to layer them, but you can layer them one after another. But the order is essential. So you would use: A Cleanser to wash your face use Niacinamide and/or Hyaluronic Acid as the second serum (since it is water-based, so it is lighter than your Pycnogenol) Pycnogenol (which is an Anhdryous Solution means it contains no water) No need to wait long in between. I always like to say wait 30 seconds to 1 minute before layering the following product; otherwise, it may feel sticky, but it depends on many factors such as your skin type, the amount you use and how you apply the serums etc.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet okay thank you for clarifying and taking your time to reply! You are soooo awesome and helpful!! I hope you have a lovely day. Stay blessed.
Hello, I just wanted to ask if it's okay to use Amino Acid +B5 , Granactive Retinoid in squalane 2%, Pycnogenol 5% then moisturizer alltogether only in the evening ? And also which serum can I use during the morning. I have also sensitive skin, with a bit of pimples. Any recommendations regarding that? Thank you in advance (:
Yes, still my advice would be to not use Pycnogenol with Retinol but keep them separate because it can be a very strong combination, especially for sensitive skin types. AM: Cleanser Amino Acids Pycnogenol 5% SPF (if exposed to the sun) PM1: Cleanser Amino Acids Granactive Retinoid in squalane 2% For pimples, I recommend using a 2% Salicylic Acid cleanser or The new Ordinary 2% Solution. PM2: Cleanser Amino Acids The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% (new Anhydrous Solution)
Does anyone else suffer from sweating off products shortly after they are applied on the face? 😭 It could be because I live in a hot & humid tropical area. It happens with my face moisturisers but especially with sunscreens which is why I've stopped using them (terrible considering the sun lives above my head 😂😂). Any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙏
Hey! :) What's your current AM and PM routine? Also, what's your skin type? You probably don't need to use a moisturiser at all (or just in the PM), and immediately move on to SPF. What SPF did you use?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thanks for replying. My current routine is just cleansing & moisturising, although I purchased the pycnogenol recently & I watched this video to learn how to use it. The spf is also a moisturiser so when I used it in the past, I did not apply anything before it. It's the bondi sands sunscreen face lotion with spf 50. I used Neutrogena hydro boost spf 30 in the past & still sweated that off too.
@@hummingbird4335 So, cleanse your face, use about 2-3 drops of Pycnogenol and then follow with your SPF :) Do you still experience the 'sweating' with your current SPF?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet I haven't used spf in a long time because of the sweating. But you said in the video that pycnogenol can supplement sunscreen in protection against sun damage. That's why I'm considering starting spf again but worried about the sweating that starts within one minute of applying it 😭
@@hummingbird4335 Yes, that's true. However, what if you look into a mineral SPF that usually gives a bit more of a drying feeling. Or look into a gel or serum-like SPF.
Theoretically, yes, and you can layer in any order. Still, from my experience, using multiple strong antioxidants in the same routine can lead to sensitivity over time; therefore, I wouldn't recommend it.
yes, use Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12% first. I also recommend watching the following video: The Ordinary Layering: th-cam.com/video/gMrV5WD8KkA/w-d-xo.html
I wouldn't use them in the same routine as they can feel too oily/heavy on the skin. Instead, choose one of them per routine or alternate between them :)
I have a question about using no more than 3 serums. If I use Pycnogenol 5%, Mandelic Acid 10% + HA, and, Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Sphere 2% in the evening, and Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%, and, Caffeine Solution 5% (only under eyes), and Pycnogenol 5% is this too much? Does 3 serums mean altogether, or just AM/PM routines?
Yes, you can layer them. If you want to use both Niacinamide and Pygnogenol, it is recommended to apply Niacinamide first and then apply Pygnogenol on top.
I just purchased this pycnogenol with ordinary EUK I already have the naturals moisturiser. I was thinking to either use both am and pm or one am one pm?- is there anything else you recommend using with these products? I have some scarring so I was considering purchasing an acid/peel too for once a week use- and I am using Avene spf 50 😅 - my skin is combination I have just had very bad hormonal skin which is now cleared up since I stopped smoking cannabis. I’m just left with horrible dark spots and almost ice pick type scars / aging 😫😫
Hey :) Haha 🙂 , To be honest, no product can help you with ice pick scars. Therefore you need to visit a dermatologist. However, for the "Dark Spots", you can lighten them with Vitamin C and use Retinol to speed up the process. I recommend Paula's Choice products since The Ordinary products are all out of stock or the once that are great for your concerns. I recommend using: Paula's Choice Clinical 0,3% Retinol + 2% Bakuchiol Treatment Paula's Choice Vitamin C 15 Booster Routines can look like this: AM: Cleanser (Gentle! Example Cetaphil or Paula's Choice) EUK 134 (3-5drops) Sunscreen PM 1(rest of the week): Cleanser (Gentle! Example Cetaphil or Paula's Choice) Vitamin C 15 Super Booster (3-5drops) Pycnogenol (max 2-3drops!) PM2 (2-3 times a week): Cleanser Paula's Choice Clinical 0,3% Retinol + 2% Bakuchiol Treatment Natural Moisturizing factors With this combination, you will see results after 8-12 weeks. But based on my experience there is no chance to get rid of the ice pick scars except for mechanical treatment. So I recommend asking a professional in your area! ;)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet I think they are more like just enlarged pores- they are not really deep ice pick scars like most of that description - I’m probably being dramatic 😂 I have been considering getting a professional peel done - Thank you so much I will write this down and stick to this 💖
Oh okay, so in this case, it may work well 🙂 Some people think it can heal actual scars or like you described it. And it does not. But the products do help well with dark spots. Yes, I think that's the best you can do. And probably get some professional advice. See what they recommend, and after that, buy regular products because the results will be the same. 😉
So I have a new gentle cleanser - Obviously the pycnogenol/euks /moisturising factors I also have just brought retinol- niacinamide vitamin c and and the ordinary bha/aha peel. Can you reccomend a routine for these new products ? I think the vitamin c and pycnogenol work ok together ? Thanks for your help 💖
I've recently starting using Pycnogenol and absolutely love it! How long have you been using it? Seen any results? I actually mix it with my moisturiser and enjoy using it that way. I'll try mixing it with vitamin C! ❤️✨👍🏾 Great upload, as always! ✨
Glad that you love it!❤️ Well, I have been using it for a bit more than a month (on and off) but I haven't used it daily since I'm trying out so much haha🤣 (as you may have noticed)... My husband loves it a lot and the main difference he has noticed so far is that Pycnogenol makes his oily skin less oily whenever he is using it! He also uses it with the Vitamin C powder and Vitamin C Suspension in Silicon. So far, we can't tell much about the anti-aging properties but both of us love how it applies and feels on the skin😊
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet haha yes, completely understand, hugely appreciate you trying out different routines with The Ordinary, very helpful! ☺️ From daily use, of like 2weeks I've noticed a huge difference with lightening post inflammatory hyperpigmentation. Definitely see a glow from using vitamin c and other antioxidants! 💛😇 Hope you are well, and having a productive week! ❤️✨
Hi Melissa! I am using Pycnogenol 5% after Buffet (regular one, without copper peptides) and Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%. When I apply Pycnogenol to my skin it it "flakes" on my fingers, almost like applying a physical exfoliator when you have these bits on your fingers after rubbing it on your face, any idea why that's happening? (I did a patch test and it doesn't irritate my skin)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet about two drops each. I noticed that when I pat the Pycnogenol instead of rubbing it it stays better, so maybe I'll try to stick with that, although it does still flake a bit when I rub the moisturizer afterwards :/
@@HaiderMatrix Yes, it's the access product that stays on the surface, and therefore you rub it off. What about using only 1-2 serums or a serum and the moisturizer and alternate? 🤔
Technically they can be used in any order. BUT I think it does not layer well and may also be too potent. So I suggest using it at different times. For example, Pygnogenol in the morning the retinoid in the evening.
Hello :) It's difficult to treat! However you can try Ascorbic Acid 8% + Alpha Arbutin 2% this serum: How To Use The Ordinary Ascorbic Acid 8% + Alpha Arbutin 2% | Full Demonstration: th-cam.com/video/e7HBLSd4VNg/w-d-xo.html Or you can try the Ordinary pigmentation routine: The Ordinary Example Pigmentation Regimen | AM + PM Full Demonstration on Face: th-cam.com/video/JKDoD3cSPTo/w-d-xo.html
It's very potent, and from my experience, it can lead to stinging. But they do not conflict, and therefore, yes, you can. But just keep that in mind ;)
Hi melissa can i use : Monday night glycolic acid from the ordinary Tuesday night paula choice salicylic acid Wednesday back again to glycolic acid Thursday paula Please help me thank you♥️♥️♥️
Yes, you can do that but it’s fine to use both types of exfoliants (AHA and BHA) as part of your skin care routine - you can use them at the same time, alternate days of usage, or use one in the morning and one at night, depending on your preference.
I can’t tell if this is breaking me out, Im 22 and have clear ish skin but mine tends to be sensitive. I got it because I thought it would help with moisture & smoothing but I can’t really tell if it’s doing anything or if I even need it. Kinda confused on what exactly it does
I bought niacinamide, pycnogenol, organic cold-pressed borage seed oil, euk 134 and the cleaning face wash. I don’t know which product is water based because two of them say water-free. Furthermore, none of these products have the ingredients on them. If it says pycnogenol 5%, what is the 95% of the product of? Does anyone know.
You can check their website for more information :) deciem.com/en-us/theordinary/mas-rdn-pycnogenol-5pct.html And I recommend watching my beginners guide: The Ordinary For Beginners: th-cam.com/video/diaLVk_EsI4/w-d-xo.html
Just to let you know, I mix the pycnogenol with the azelaic acid, two drops with a pea size amount. The texture in my hands felt weird, but it glides beautifully on my face. Love the feeling.
No, only some. Mainly exfoliating acids (AHA), Retinols, Vitamin C but usually the high strengths are an issue for some people, and when overusing them, it can lead to burning, redness etc.
Hi Melissa! I just bought this today and I KNEW I could count on you to direct me on using it properly. What would we do without you!!!?😃….why hasn’t the Ordinary hired you as their top model and spokesperson 🤷🏻♀️….. love you Melissa! Thank you again!!!!!
Hello Monica :) Haha, yes I have every product on my channel 😜:
Here is the playlist:
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They don't know about me 😜 And thank you 😃
Thank you, so much for making these videos. I was confused by the Ordinary and your videos, really helped me to succeed in building a successful skin care routine.
What products u use and what’s your skin type?
@millions of feelings 😆 That's a good one 😅🙈
@Maria Thank you ❤️ You're very welcome!
I just ordered this, I thoroughly read some research, looked at many reviews..and had to try this!! I've never been let down by The Ordinary products. This product had very impressive reviews. I appreciate the demonstration on using it!
Hope you enjoy it! 🥰 And thank you.
I would be lost without you thank you so much for all of your videos! You are to the point & helpful. I hope the ordinary is giving you some sort of commission because you deserve it
Thank you so much! :)
Haha no :)
But I have a Paypal link in the description box if someone wants to support me🥰
I recently bought TO Pycnogenol and was looking for a video to help me incorporate it into my routine. This video was very informative and helpful. Thank you!
You're welcome! 😃
Hi, I have been watching loads of your clips for the last week and I want to say I LOVE YOU! Thank you so much for this. Subscribed!
Thanks for subbing! And I am glad that they can help you 🙂 I hope that the products will work for you 😉
Hej Melissa! Thanks to you, you helped me understand and how to use the ordinary products/combination to their fullest. I recently bought for my winter morning routine: Ascorbyl glucoside mix with COSRX Snail 96 Mucin Power Essence, pycnogenol, NMF+HA. Thank you again for your easy to understand demonstration videos
Hey! :)
Thank you!🥰 I'm happy to hear that you enjoy my videos and find them helpful! :)
Hello Melissa, i watched yestarday your routine for over 50 years, and i am verry excited that you explained verry well with details what products to use on each day of the week, now when i wanted to see how to use Pycnogenol, i saw that you recomended to be combine with vit C, what i wanted to ask : ”it is ok to layer on face after Pycnogenol, THE INKEY LIST 15% VITAMIN C & EGF ?” thank you for all your documeted work wich help us to take care of our skin (PS : in december i will have 50 years) 😇
Hello Mihaela,
Yes, you can use them together, but I suggest using The Inkey List 15% Vitamin C before Pycnogenol because of its formulation.
If you do not reply or comment anymore, I already wish you well and hope all your birthday wishes come true! 🙂
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I'm loving this antioxidant. Feels great mixed with my moisturizer. Thank you for this information
You are a lifesaver with ordinary products ❤😊
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You are just great!!! I love all your videos, you explained very short and sweet but yet very understanding. Thank you.:)
Glad it was helpful! :)
It feels great on the skin , I totally love it
Just what I was looking for. Thank you, Melissa:)!
Glad it was helpful! :)
I’m so pleased I found this channel 😅❤
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I absolutely love how you have been replying to every comment omg so so so sweet! Can you please please please suggest what order I can mix ordinary products in for AM and PM routine for active acne, clogged pores and textured skin? I have wrinkles under eyes and I'm 22. I'm currently using glycolic acid at night and niacinamide during the day. My skin type is oily and combination. Thank you in advance! You rock 🤘
For that, I recommend not using Glycolic Acid but Salicylic Acid instead, as Glycolic Acid cannot unclog pores.
I suggest watching the following video:
The Ordinary Skincare Routine for Oily Acne Prone Skin:
th-cam.com/video/BoLMjpkcDSw/w-d-xo.html
I just want to thank you for everything you do ❤️
Thank you!🥰
Hi, thanks for all videos! What do you think about my routine below?
1- cleaning
2- hyaluronic acid on wet face
3- pycnogenol 5%
4- mix of niacinamide powder with Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA
Also once a week SolutionAHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeling Solution, and once a week MasqueSalicylic Acid 2% Masque
I’d appreciate any comments :) Thanks!
Here is the correct order to avoid pilling, layering issues, and sensitivities:
Clean face
Take a clean towel and pat all over to remove the excess water from the skin surface
Mix hyaluronic acid with niacinamide powder
Wait 1 minute
Apply Pycnogenol 5%
Wait 1 minute
Apply Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA
And don't confuse damp and wet skin.
How to apply Skincare on Damp Skin?:
th-cam.com/video/xNUUUr81rLE/w-d-xo.html
Hi Melissa, thank you so much for your videos and taking the time to respond to all our questions. I’d be lost with the ordinary products without your video guidance. My question is should I mix Pycnogenol and Vit C suspension (30%) in the palm of my hands or by layering? Thank you so much!
Either way is fine! Try both and see what works best for you! :)
Love your videos! So incredibly helpful. What is according to your opinion the best ( most effective) Vitamin C serum for a beginner with dehydrated skin (if that plays a role)? I watched so many videos about different brands but I trust your opinion because you are clearly experienced. Also, do you think it makes a difference if you mix the pycnogenol with a product or apply it afterwards? Thx for your effort and work!!
Hello Tina,
From my experience, you can mix The Ordinary Vitamin C powder with Marine Hyaluronics or Hyaluronic Acid and a bit of their Ferulic Acid or Pycnogenol. It works just as well as the other serums, but you need to buy several products, which may be more expensive.
So the best would be just to get a mixed formulation such as Geek and Gorgeous C-Glow, which contains 15% of Ascorbic Acid at a very affordable price, and keeping it in the fridge after using it which makes it last for several months!
And I am skeptical about all these derivatives. For example, Ascorbyl Glucoside and Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (which is not available anymore, but I liked it a lot) may work well. Still, I haven't had the chance to test it long enough, so I don't know 😉
The trials I have done on myself and which you can find on my channel, did not show very promising results; it faded but really did not know how much my skin has done by itself.
Hey, Thank you for your informative videos! I really appreciate your content! I wanted to ask, what do you think about my routine?
In the morning
1. Cleanse
2. Hyaluronic acid
3. Pycnogenol
4. Natural moisturizing
Evening
1. Cleanse
2. Hyaluronic acid
3. Alpha Arbutin
4. Moisturiser
I also have resveratrol 3% and retinol 0.5% but I don’t know how to incorporate that.
It’d mean a lot if you could help me!
Overall, your skincare routine looks great! You could consider alternating between Pycnogenol and Resveratrol + Ferulic Acid in your AM routine. Personally, I prefer Pycnogenol. When it comes to Retinol, use it in the evening and alternate with Alpha Arbutin for the best results 😊
Hi! I love your videos :) I would like to know if I can mix Pycnogenol with the Resveratol + Ferulic acid. It sounds like a bomb of antioxidants, have you tried it? thanks in advance
Hello 🙂 wow, you are a long term subscriber THX ❤️
Hm, the combination wouldn't be that bad, and there is also no reason you could not do it. But no, I have never tried it. Maybe try it and let me know about the results. 🤪
Hello Melissa, may I mix the Pycnogenol 5% with the Retinol 1% In Squalane Face Serum?
It may work; I haven't tried that. However, personally, I wouldn't do it, mainly due to the formulation and the risk of it becoming too potent. Therefore, I would use Pynogenol in the AM and Retinol in the PM.
thankyou dear for helping us by making detailed videos.... 💞💞
Very thorough explanation. Thank you
You are welcome!
Hey Melissa..explained with such ease...Can you advise the best routine and layering order with Pycnogenol, cosrx snail mucin & ordinary granactive retinoid ? looking for a PM routine.. Thanks :)
Hello,
Technically, you would layer them in the following order:
Clean your face with a non-exfoliating acid cleanser suitable for your skin type.
Pat dry with a clean towel.
Apply snail mucin and give it 30 seconds to 1 minute to absorb.
Apply pycnogenol and give it 30 seconds to 1 minute to absorb.
Apply granactive retinoid.
However, based on my experience and the comments I often receive, the combination of pycnogenol and retinol can sometimes lead to irritation or sensitivities. Therefore, I would suggest using them at different times.
Thank you Melissa, great video as always!
Thanks for watching! ❤️
Dear Melli, I have recently got Ordinary Pycnogenol. Effectiveness wise, wat would be better :
to use it alone?
To mix with Vitamin C serum?
To mix with retinol or peptides?
To mix with moisturizer?
Use it alone :)
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Hi Melissa! I find your video very educative. Please, could you give me an advice.
If I mix pycongenol with vit C suspension, can I use HA serum before that and can I use moisturizing cream after applying mix of pycongenol + vit C?
Is that to much in one routine? Is that correct?
Thanks for your time!
Anamaria
I think it is too much, but you can do it as you have described.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you for answer. Do I need moisturizing cream after I mix pycongenol with vit C? Or I don't need to end my routine with moiusturizing cream?
I understand if I use:
1. HA serum
2. Pycongenol
3. Moisturizing cream
But if I mix pycongenol with vit C for example, to I need end routine with moisturizing cream?
This depends on your skin type and how your skin feels after you have applied HA and Pycnogenol mixed with Vitamin C. You have to test it! :)
Thank you 😀
Hello its a wonderful in detailed video.Thanks for sharing.May i know if i can apply this after Glycolic toner?:)
Hey 🙂yes, it does not conflict with Glycolic Acid. If you want to learn more, you can watch the following video:
The Ordinary For Beginners:
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Melissa, thank you for this video! Is it possible to apply this directly on the lips?
It's not meant for the lips and eye area, so therefore I recommend to avoid it. But you can ask The Ordinary customer service which you can do here: deciem.com/en-us/contact-us.html
Hiee Melissa, thank you so much for this informative video.
Could you please tell me if it can be used to treat hyperpigmentation around the mouth area?
No, but what kind of pigmentation are you battling?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hi, thank you for replying and addressing my problem. It's more like darkness due to too much sun exposure.
@@TG-vm4re So my suggestion would be using an exfoliant such as Glycolic Acid
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Oh okay, glycolic acid from Ordinary?
@@TG-vm4re yes but you can also use any other brand ;)
Hi Melissa! I'm planning to add this product in my evening routine. My evening routine is: Cleanser > Toner > Niacinamide > Hyaluronic Acid > Retinol. Is it okay to add this after HA? Thank you!!
Hey! :)
Do you use The Ordinary Retinol? If so, I wouldn’t recommend it, as it can layer extremely uncomfortably. What's your AM routine? Do you use your Retinol daily in the evening?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you for replying! :) Yes, I use TO Retinol daily in the evening. The products I use are all from TO. My AM routine is Cleanser > Toner > Niacinamide > Hyaluronic Acid > Azelaic acid > Moisturizer > Sunscreen.
Is it okay to use niacinamide and HA together with pycnogenol?
@@chelsisig yes, you can do that. However, from my experience when using multiple Anhydrous Solutions (formulations without water that have an oily texture), it does not layer well or stays on the skin surface, making it uncomfortable. But if you do not mind that feeling, go ahead; they do not conflict.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet I see. Thank you very much! Your videos have been a very great help. Have a blessed day! ❤️
@@chelsisig thanks, same goes for you 🥰
Hey Melissa ! I wanted to know if pycnogenol can be used under eyes for fine lines ??
Wouldn't bring it too close to the lower lash line as it has a high % and may irritate the eyes. But technically you can use it.
hello.. can i use pycnogenol after using the ordinary copper peptide serum?? i mean are they safe to be used in the same routine..
Technically yes, pratically they do not layer well. So I suggest using them at different times.
Dear Melissa ordinary vit c suspension 23 % gave me bad acne so I stopped using it ..now I use Klairs vit c ..n it suits me
Can I use it with klairs as under
Cleaning ( I do oil cleaning only )
Hylauronic acid
Klairs vit c
Ordinary Pcygenol
La roche sunscreen
Oh no, 😞 do you know the reason for this?
But yes you can use the products as you described.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet don’t know dear !
Even buffet and rose hip gave me really bad acne !
Once you said buffet gave you too breakouts ! How do use it now ?
I tried buffet alone , with alovera gel , with niacinamide , with rose hip ..nothings helps ..it gives me bumps next day !
@@IIKkinjalPragyaanII What cleanser do you use?
I do not use Buffet anymore.
But from what I can tell is that the cleanser can make a huge difference. Also if the face isn't washed correctly, and sometimes it's just the product or hormones etc.
If you are new to the products, it may cause a reaction, and you need to adjust to it. This may take a few weeks based on my experience. But as you already said I still have problems with Buffet so sometimes it just does not work. To figure out the reason you need to see a dermatologist or just use different products ;)
Oh my, I've been using a full spoonful of the Vitamin C powder. Perhaps I should ease off. It does sting and I got an abrasion like effect on my neck. Thank you for the info.
Yes, that's a lot. It's best to use only a little, it will have the same effect without any irritation. 😃
Hello Melissa!
I love your videos, they helped me a lot.
I'd like to ask you for help, because I am trying to figure out something but I am not sure.
I've been using pycnogenol for a while now and loving it; I usually mix it with my daily moisturizer (or apply it before moisturizer), then I realized my moisturizer contains peptides, but I don't understand if they're the same that conflicts with pycnogenol (like the ones in the Buffet). Could you help me figuring it out?
The moisturizer I am talking about is Holy Hydration Face Cream - fragrance free by E.L.F. cosmetics! (I also use the night mask from the same line)
Honestly I did not have any issues but you never know, maybe I am reducing the pycnogenol effect without knowing!
Thank you very much
Hello Giorgia,
It is just the "copper peptides". So the regular peptides are not an issue here :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hi Melissa! That's what I thought! Thank you very much 🥰
Can i use it in the same routine as Ordinary Aha bha peeling solution?
Technically yes, practically these antioxidants can be very potent and may cause sensitivity after such a strong peel.
Hey melissa I already using reserverol and vitamin c suspension followed the moisturez
So I add few drops of pycnogen into my moisturizer
Apply as it
Well, it does not conflict; from my experience, it can just feel quickly too heavy or smeary on the skin, so you need to balance it to your needs ;)
Hi Melissa, May I mix Rose Hip Seed Oil with Pycnogenol 5%. Please advise. Thank you.
Yes you can! Use Pycnogenol first and then apply the Oil after that! :)
Hi Melissa! ..which oil did u used in this video to mix with Pycnogenol
I think that it was Rosehip Seed Oil :)
Do you know if this can be mixed with their caffeine solution and Azelaic Acid Suspension 10%?
If yes, what shoul i put first on my skin? i would love some advice :) thnx
Yes, here's the recommended routine:
Wash your face.
Gently pat your face dry.
Apply the caffeine solution.
Follow with the application of pycnogenol.
Finally, apply the azelaic acid.
Remember to give each product around 30 seconds to 1 minute to absorb before proceeding to the next step, if necessary.
Hi. I'm sorry to bother you, but I have a little question. Can I finish this routine with a mattifying moisturizer?
Yes of course! 🙂
Thank you Melissa. I have a question, can I use this serum with buffet, but not with the one buffet + copper peptides?
Yes :)
hello melissa!
i'm 25 with sensitive, mixed skin and some fine lines, and I use ascorbyl glucoside solution 12% and pycnogenol in the morning,
and hyaluronic acid and retinol 0.2% at night.
what would you change? what would you add?
i'd like to try niacinamide+zinc, where would you put it and in what order?
Hello 😃
There are many options, but I would only change something if it isn't working for you. But to see that, you need to use it consistently for a few months.
You can add Niacinamide, and I would probably use it before retinol in the evening.
The Ordinary For Beginners:
th-cam.com/video/diaLVk_EsI4/w-d-xo.html
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you so much, melissa.
Well, this is the first year i've done something for my skin, i have really bad eczema and my skin has always been overreactive to anything i put on it, so i never put anything on it (no creams, no sunscreen, no makeup. just water and soap.), but since getting treatment (i still have to take antihistaminse for it everyday), my skin has been able to tolerate stuff, so i started getting into skincare and watching your videos!
I used topical steroids earlier this year, and they're good for treating eczema, but they'll make your skin thinner. Now i'm off them and i'm trying to take really good care of my skin!
Still no make-up (i don't know if i'll ever get there, or if i'll ever even want to get there|), only skincare!
I've been consistently using this routine for maybe 5 weeks? and my skin has literally never looked this good, so i want to keep at it! I still have a few pimples on my forehead and on the sides of my face, which is why i thought i could add niacinamide. I'll try and report back!
Do you have any suggestions for a toner? I saw the glycolic acid one from the ordinary but i don't think it would be wise to add an acid?
your channel is amazing, thank you for what you do.
i hope you get more traffic!
I'll be around
@@aureaproportio Okay, that's quite a story. 😞
If your skin is that sensitive, it may not be a good idea to add such a strong acid. Glycolic Acid is the strongest AHA that they offer. And generally, for sensitive skin types, a PHA(which The Ordinary does not provide) is recommended or maybe Mandelic Acid.
From my experience, pimples are very hard to target and keep under control, if mainly caused by hormones/stress, etc. So I am dealing with this a lot. Niacinamide helps to calm down the redness, and it may work over the long haul, and if you only have a few, it's worth a try.
But in general, if your skin is that sensitive, I wouldn't add too much at a time and always wait a few weeks before adding new products to it not to overwhelm it. That's something I always do when trying new products; otherwise, it can quickly lead to stinging burning or redness, and you have to start all over again.
If you want to use a hydrating toner, go with Paula's Choice. (just choose the one suitable for your skintype)
For exfoliating acid toner, The Inkey List PHA Toner or Geek and Gorgeous PHA toner.
Is this a good order of serums !
At night :
Cleanse
Alpha arbutin
Niacinamide
Pycnogenol
Moisturiser
At morning :
Cleanse
Vit c
Moisturiser
Hey! :)
What Vitamin C do you use?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet
Asutra
20% Vitamin C Serum
@@saral9809 Yes, your routine looks great! Don't forget SPF during daytime.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Sure, thank a lot sweetheart.
I use Pipette, Mineral Sunscreen Broad Spectrum, SPF 50.
I love this serum I use it by dropping vit c serum on my face directly then quickly dropping pycogenol on face directly then just massaging ( mixing) both serums in while there both on my face. Do I need to be mixing them in my hand first ?
Hey! :)
If that works for you, keep doing it :) I prefer to mix it in my hand :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet okay thx🙂 I was just making sure I wasn’t doing anything wrong
Hi, i really need youre help 😄 Can i use the Ordinary caffeine 5% + egcg on my face as the water based serum ?
Hey! :)
See here:
Can I use The Ordinary Caffeine Solution on the Face?: th-cam.com/video/wVpPvF3SiaE/w-d-xo.html
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you 💖💖
Hi, Can you let me know what I can mix Pycnogenol in my Nighy time routine? I'm using buffet and Granactive Retinoid 5% in sqalane. Thank you! Love your Chanel! Always helpful! x
You would use it before or after your Retinol. However, this may layer weird because both have an oily feel to it.
What's your AM routine?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you for your reply, my morning routine is, The ordinary Pycnogenol, niacinamide.amd hylaronicacid, could I add it to this routine instead? 😊
@@kimalderton2534 So, use Pycnogenol in the AM after your Hyaluronic Acid and Niacinamide serum and use Buffet and Granactive Retinoid in the PM.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Great, thank you so much! 😊
i’m thinking about adding Pycnogenol in my morning routine with my vitamin c, but i also like to use a CoQ10 toner in that routine. is there a conflict between the Pycnogenol and CoQ10?
Yes, you can use them together 🙂
hey, so I'm trying to create a routine with some products which are:
-the Ordinary - Anti-blemish formula, 10% niacinamide + 1% zinc, high concentration of vitamins and minerals,
-The Ordinary Pycnogenol 5%
-L'Orealcerave Body Lotion
-CeraVe Moisturizing Cleansing Lotion
with these products I'm trying to get rid of some pimples and get better skin. My problem is i don't know when to use them and how... when is better to use them (night or morning)
any suggestionor or explantion what is better to be combinated
Hey :)
So you can use Niacinamide and Pycnogenol in the same routine, or to keep it simpler, use one in the AM and the other one in the PM.
AM and/or PM Routine:
- Cleanse
- Niacinamide (Optional)
- Pycongenol (Optional)
- Moisturizer
- SPF (AM)
OR
AM Routine:
- Cleanse
- Pycongenol
- Moisturizer
- SPF (AM)
PM Routine:
- Cleanse
- Niacinamide (Optional)
- Moisturizer
Hope this helps :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you so much, it's a big help... but i have one more question
Do I wash the face after the clenser or leve it and continue putting the other prouducts? And also does it matter that i will use these products every day (i mean is it better if i use them all the time or some of them few times a week?) or mix them for example put first the niacinamide and then on top pycnogenol and then moistruzer...:\ (or is better if i wash it in between)
Thanks a lot for the video. I’m 30 and I’m from India. Had a few doubts. Can I use Niacinamide, Pycnogenol and Azelaic Acid (in this order) on every alternate night? Also what about Niacinamide, Pycnogenol and Granactive Retinoid 2% Emulsion (in the same order) on every alternate night?
Yes, you can use these products together, and for the frequency, you really need to see how it goes since it is individual. But technically, you could use them daily if tolerated.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet If I use Pycnogenol with Azelaic Acid, so it won’t cancel each other, right since one of it is Acid?
No, you can use them together.
Hi Melissa! 🥰
Thanks for sharing about the Pycnogenol 5%. I looked you right away having this product in my mind as I always do look for you when I need guidance on The Ordinary products.
I have been using TO Lactid Acid 10% together with TO Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5 serum and finish it with the Moisturizing Factors Moisturizer. I've almost finish the above products and so I would like to try other products from The Ordinary like the Pycnogenol 5% and Alpha Arbutin + HA and Glycolic Toner 7%
Can I use it in this order, please correct me if I am wrong.
Morning:-
Cleanser (other brand)
Toner ( other brand)
Alpha Arbutin + HA
Natural Moisturizing Factors moisturizer
Evening:-
Cleanser (other brand)
Glycolic Acid Toner 7%
Alpha Arbutin +HA
Pycnogenol 5%
Natural Moisturizing Factors moisturizer.
Also is there any where in the routine I could add TO Vit C Powder for better effects/benefits with Pycnogenol Or Pycnogenol is best on its own?
I've tried TO vitamin C powder sometime back but it caused a gritty feeling. Maybe I must have used too much of it.
Hope you could guide me. Thanks. 🤗
Hey! :)
I recommend using Pycnogenol in the AM instead.
You can use your Vitamin C powder with Pycnogenol, use this combo in the AM and then Glycolic Acid and Alpha Arbutin in the PM.
You do not need a lot of powder. Also, you may need to blend it for a bit longer in the palm of your hand before applying it. If it still feels too gritty, mix the Vitamin C powder with your moisturizer instead.
See here a guide:
How To Use The Ordinary 100% L Ascorbic Acid Vitamin C Powder: th-cam.com/video/Z09cKmcx81c/w-d-xo.html
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thanks for your reply Melissa! 🤗
So it's better for Alpha Arbutin in the PM and Vit C in the AM.
Because I thought Vit C at AM would cause skin irritation/burn?
Which is a better mixture, Vit C mixed with Pycnogenol or Vit C mixed with Natural Moisturizing Factors moisturizer and layered on top of Pycnogenol?
Can I use Pycnogenol over Alpha Arbutin before moisturizer?
@@butterfliesONrainbows Well, when mixing your Vitamin C with Pycnogenol - it's a great antioxidant combination that you can use in the AM as well. Still, you would need to follow with sunscreen during the day when being exposed to the sun.
However, you can use this combo in the PM as well.
Either mixture is fine. Test it! :)
Use Pycnogenol after Alpha Arbutin.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you Melissa for the explanation..will follow. 🥰
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hi Melissa, sorry to bother you.🤗
While shopping the Ordinary, I came across the Vit C Suspension 23% with HA spheres 2% and the other is Vit C suspension 30% in silicone.
Can I use one of the above instead of the Ordinary L ascorbic 100% powder after the application of Pynocenol 5% ?
If can, should I still layer the Natural Moisturizing Factors over the Vit C suspension 23% with HA spheres or it's good on it's own?
Also is the one with silicone beneficial for combination to dry skin or will it clog pores?
I know it's a lot of questions, please take your time to reply me. Thanks again!! 🤗
hello melissa, i have this and lactic acid, how should i use these two? start with the lactic acid and then use the pycnogenol 5%, and finish with the moisturizer? thank you :)
Correct :)
Hi melissa? Can i mix pycogenol with vitamin c inkey list? Or put them on top of the other?
yes you can :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet hey Melissa..can I use inkey list retinol with pycogenol?
Hello Melissa!Thanks for your efforts. Does it cause sun sensitivity like vit c?I live in a hot humid country and women of colour.
Hello Nishat,
No, it does not cause sun sensitivity. It actually has a protective effect; still, this is not enough to protect sun rays from damaging your skin. So my advice would be to use sunscreen still when exposed to the sun.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thanks for your reply💜I always wear sunscreen.
Hello Mellissa! I’ve been really eyeing this product for month now. Will it go with with niacinamide, azelaic acid and retinol?
The feeling could be better (oily, too heavy), and sometimes it causes problems because it is potent; therefore, I do not recommend it. But it is technically okay, and they do not conflict.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you Melissa!
Dear Melli,
Until now I have been using vitamin C serums on dry skin as everyone used to tell that water oxidizes vitamin C.
I am little confused now as recently I came to know that Timeless serum should be applied on damp skin.
Kindly guide
Most treatments should be applied to damp skin, the reason for this is that they absorb better.
Damp skin is when the skin has been dried off on the skin surface just after cleansing.
Wash face
take a towel and pat it dry (remove the remaining water drops from the skin's surface)
Now the skin is damp and stays that way for several minutes
That is when you should apply the product
How to apply Skincare on Damp Skin?:
th-cam.com/video/xNUUUr81rLE/w-d-xo.html
It is NOT
Wash face
leave the skin wet (so that there are water drops all over)
Apply product
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet
Ok , thanks for the guidance 💖
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet but does it apply for vitamin C serums as well?
@@gracefulgirl8141 To all the skincare products except for strong retinol/retinoids and AHA/BHA formulations. There you may want to wait 5-10minutes after cleansing before applying it.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet ok, thanks 💕
Hi can I use this in the same routine with my azelic acid
yes, use it before.
Hello! Your content is amazing, so clear and helpful - I was just wondering whether you’d be able to help me with my skin routine please? Sorry this may be long!
I’d say my skin is heavily combination, I get eczema on my forehead along with dry patches on my cheeks. My skin can also get oily on the forehead and It’s covered in clogged pores that I’ve had for years, I’m pretty acne prone and get spots frequently (probably over touching my face). I’m 21 so not many fine lines but I’d like to prevent them - my skin is also quite dehydrated so looks very papery and dull.
Fore the last month my routine has been
Am
Cetaphile gentle cleanser
Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
Argireline solution 10%
100% plant derived Squalane
Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
Pm (alternating)
Cetaphile gentle cleanser
Either Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1% OR mandelic acid 10% + HA
100% plant derived Squalane
Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
As of now, I can tell my skin barrier is a lot better, and some of the clogged pores are going down - skin is definitely looking more even and more plump/less dry.
I am looking to have an alternating AM and PM routine every other day and would like to know how they sound? I will of course be intergrating each product slowly but wanted to know whether I’d be using too many or if they’re doing the same thing.
Am 1
Cetaphile gentle cleanser
Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC
Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5
Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
Argireline solution 10%
100% organic pressed rose hip seed oil
Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50
PM 1
Cetaphile gentle cleanser
mandelic acid 10% + HA
Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5
Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
B oil
Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
AM 2
Cetaphile gentle cleanser
Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC
Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5
Ascorbyl tetraisopalmitate solution 20% in vitamin F
Pycnogenol 5%
100% plant derived squalane
Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50
PM 2
Cetaphile gentle cleanser
Hyaluronic acid 2% + B5
Retinol 0.2% in squalane
B oil
Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
I was planning on moving the oils around depending on what my skin needs but I’m not sure if the caffeine solution and order of the products are correct, or whether I’m just over complicating it way too much! Should I look for products that combine some of these to simplify?
Thanks!
I wouldn't add too many products...and skip Hyaluronic Acid.
Using Pycnogenol and Tetraisopalmitate in the same routine can feel too oily/heavy. I wouldn't use them in the same routine. Either use one of them or use one in the AM and the other in the PM. You probably don't need any additional oils when using them as they feel like an oil. Same when using The Ordinary Retinol in Squalane as it is already in Squalane.
Why do you want to use the Caffeine Solution? Do you have a dry eye area? If so, I wouldn't recommend it because it can make the skin around the eye drier. So, looking into a cream would be another option.
Let me know how you want it, and I will help you with the order.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you so much! Appreciate the help.
I’ll be taking the Hyaluronic acid out as the pycnogenol should do the trick, along with the B oil as it will probably clog pores. I suffer from some dark under eye circles - not particularly dry or puffy though so I’m hoping it will reduce the darkness as I don’t like wearing makeup anymore.
I am currently stuck between Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate Solution 20% and Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12% as id originally thought the glucoside may be irritating/drying on my eczema, but now I’m thinking the tetraisopalmitate might be too pore clogging - do you have a preference or any advice for the best form of vitamin C? I was considering the LAA powder but wasn’t sure what to mix with that could reduce irritation.
My other question is whether you would recommend the Granactive Retinoid Serum 2% in squalane or the Retinol Serum 0.2% in Squalane. I’d heard that the retinol can be drying/irritating but wasn’t too worried as I’d start slow and follow with the pycnogenol. Now I am considering the retinoid as it can be more hydrating but am aware there is less research behind it - do you have a preference here?
Thanks so much! I doubt I will re buy argireline once I move to retinol, but routine now looks like this:
Am 1
- Cetaphil gentle cleanser
- Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC
- Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
- Argireline solution 10%
- 100% plant derived squalane
- Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
- La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50
PM 1
- Cetaphil gentle cleanser
- mandelic acid 10% + HA
- Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
- Pycnogenol (or squalane?)
- Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
AM 2
- Cetaphil gentle cleanser
- Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC
- Argireline solution 10%
- Ascorbyl tetraisopalmitate solution 20% in vitamin F
- 100% plant derived squalane (if I chose the glucoside instead)
- Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
- La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50
PM 2
- Cetaphil gentle cleanser
- Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
- Retinol 0.2% in squalane
- Pycogneol
- Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
Feel free to suggest any changes if you have any better options, thanks x
@@BugBugK I would do it like this:
Am 1
- Cetaphil gentle cleanser
- Caffeine solution 5% + ECGC
- Argireline solution 10%
- Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
- Pycnogenol
- Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
- La Roche posay hydrating crème SPF50
PM 1
- Cetaphil gentle cleanser
- Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
- Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution
- mandelic acid 10% + HA
- Ascorbyl tetraisopalmitate solution 20% in vitamin F (instead of Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution or Squalane)
- Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
PM 2
- Cetaphil gentle cleanser
- Niacinamde 10% + zinc 1%
- Retinol or Granactive Retinoid
- Neutrogena hydro boost sleeping crème
I wouldn't use too many oil-type products in the same routine. Either go with an oil or Pycnogenol or Tetraisopalmitate. As for your Retinol, either one of them is fine! Personally, I prefer water-based products so I would choose The Ordinary Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution over Tetraisopalmitate. The only oil-type product that I like is The Ordinary B-Oil😊
Hi .. can I use TO pycnogenol over the TO Azelaic acid? Waiting for your reply ma’am
Hey :)
No, use Pycnogenol before applying Azelaic Acid :)
Thank u for replying
Hi! I’ve Jist revived my ordinary products..I have the glycolic toner, niamicide, lactic acidosis and peeling solution. Can you tell me how’s best to create a skin care routine with these? Thankyou!💗
Hello, I can help you and provide you the information this way, you will learn much more!❤️
Glycolic Acid Toner = Leave on Exfoliant
Niacinamide = Water-Based Serum
Lactic Acid = Leave on Exfoliant
Peeling Solution = Rinse of Mask (th-cam.com/video/wSY0pYcy8KY/w-d-xo.html)
The general rule of thumb for order of application is:
1. Water-based serums
2. Anhydrous Solutions and Oil Formulations
3. Lotions & Creams & suspensions
Important:
If you have more than one water-based serum, you can apply based on the priority of your concern (the product that targets the most important concern should go first). And it’s recommended applying eye-serums (such as Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG) first after cleansing.
It’s recommended using no more than 3 serum formulations in a single routine for optimal skin penetration.
About 2-3 drops of each serum and 1 pea-sized amount of creams should be enough for the full face and neck.
Use a "patting" application method, as opposed to "rubbing."
Always apply sunscreen when you are exposed to the sun!!
Some products can have a foaming effect upon application depending on the other products you are using in your regimen. The foaming should not last longer than a few seconds and both should not remain sticky once absorbed into the skin. (Video: th-cam.com/video/r04W7rQV1R0/w-d-xo.html)
"Pilling" (snakeskin, shedding) can occur due to too much product. Your skin can only absorb a certain amount of product, and any excess will be left on top of the skin so that when the next product is being applied, it rubs off. (Video: th-cam.com/video/l_C7HtO826A/w-d-xo.html)
If you wish to incorporate multiple Vitamin C's, Retinoids, and/or Direct Acids into your skincare regimen, it's suggested using them on alternate evenings and waiting until your skin has adjusted to one before introducing another.
How to Create a Skincare Routine With The Ordinary Products - A Beginners Guide:
th-cam.com/video/png_aAg5B0A/w-d-xo.html
Hi Melissa !! This can use with direct acids ? I know u say in the video No. But I find a pdf on Deciem that say Yes is there any changes since this video is old or it keeps a No with Acids ? Thanks !
Hello Denise,
Hm, no, it can be used with direct acids; you just should not use it with Buffet Copper Peptides 0:47
I think that you are referring to EUK 134
However, be careful with the Ordinary antioxidants; from my experience, they are very potent and often lead to irritation when combined with potent retinol/retinoids Vitamin C (low pH) or exfoliating acids.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thanks !!!! Understand it will better maybe used in Am without the Glycolic acid and use the acid PM right ?
@@milliesofi4469 Yes! :)
Hi, I just discovered your channel and I'm loving it already. I've recently gotten into skincare and I've a few doubts.
Can we use pycnogenol after Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12%? Also, how about this routine
1. Cleansing
2. Toning - ONE THING Galactomyces Ferment Filtrate
3. Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12%
4. Moisturizer + pycnogenol
Also, can I pair Corx Snail Mucin with Niacinamide and other Ordinary Serums?
Hello,
Yes, you can do all of it :) There is no issue here.
The Ordinary For Beginners:
th-cam.com/video/diaLVk_EsI4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Melissa,
I’m planning to try these products from TO can you please help me to make my routine Am and Pm please
Am
Cerave cleanser
Alpha arbutin
Niacinamide
Pycogenol 5%
Cerave sunscreen
Pm
Cerave cleanser
Glycolic acid 7% toning solution
Matrixyl 10% + HA
Argireline 10%
Vit C suspension 30% in silicone
Thank you in advance Melissa ❤️
The order of application looks good. However, The Ordinary Peptides (Matrixyl and Argireline) should not be used with Glycolic Acid. Also, I do not recommend using Glycolic Acid and the Vitamin C Suspension in the same routine, this can be a pretty strong combination.
Use your Peptides in the AM and Niacinamide and Alpha Arbutin in the PM. Create two PM routines and alternate between Glycolic Acid and Vitamin C Suspension.
See here:
How to use The Ordinary Glycolic Acid 7% Toning Solution in a Skincare Routine: th-cam.com/video/NE3j3LPcaGE/w-d-xo.html
When I apply Pycnogenol it feels like it's "dissolving" the water based serums I applied before. Like it's peeling the skin. Is it normal? Great video btw!!
is it pilling?Similar to this: th-cam.com/video/l_C7HtO826A/w-d-xo.html 🤔
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Exactly like this! Thank you very much!! 💗
Update: I followed your tips and it isn't pilling any more! But, i tried mix it with Vitamin C and after around 5-10mins my face was feeling hot, itchy and had red spots.
I applied it again today after Hyaluronic Acid and nothing else but the same happened again.. :(
The first 2 times i applied it i didnt have any problem. Strange.. I don't think i will use it again, maybe one more time alone by itself.
@@memakigr Hey again! Great to hear that it isn't pilling anymore! :)
What Vitamin C do you use? Have you layered or mixed your Vitamin C and Pycnogenol?
Also, have you ever used Vitamin C before and on its own? Since using Pycnogenol and Vitamin C together shouldn't be a problem, this is in fact a great combination!
If your skin feels warm/hot and you may experience tingling, that's normal since if you are new to those products your skin needs time to adjust to it which usually should become better the more often you are using it. However, if red spots are appearing, I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign😅
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hello!! I'm using Clinique's Fresh Pressed Vitamin C for a while without a problem. I mixed it in my palm, 2 drops each.
I thought it was normal to feel warm but then i looked in the mirror and my face was full with red blotches.. I will give Pycnogenol one more try without using any other product before or after and will see.. Thanks for the response! :)
Hello Melissa, can u inform me if we can mix 2 or 3 drops of the Ordinary Amino Acids with 1 drop of The Ordinary Pycnogenol 5% after cleansing our face and before Moisturiser ?
yeah that shouldn't be an issue :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thanks dear .. i LOVE your channel
hello Melissa I'm not sure if you'll see this but I read somewhere that antioxidants don't mix well with water based serums? what are you thoughts.
Hmm, that's not true. But maybe you misunderstood that article. Can you share it, please?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet oh it wouldn't allow me to add links here. Glowing gorgeous is the site. Article name: The Ordinary Ultimate Guide To Mixing & Layering.
Oh and in the same regime would it be okay to use niacinamide before pycnogenol? Rather than hyaluronic acid? Thank you for getting back to me!!
@@sapoosh I found it. And no, it is not true. But mixing them in the palm of your hand may not work well because Pygnogenol it is an Anhydrous Solution and wouldn't mix correctly, also creating a smeary texture which does not absorb well into the skin. Therefore it is always best to layer them, but you can layer them one after another. But the order is essential.
So you would use:
A Cleanser to wash your face
use Niacinamide and/or Hyaluronic Acid as the second serum (since it is water-based, so it is lighter than your Pycnogenol)
Pycnogenol (which is an Anhdryous Solution means it contains no water)
No need to wait long in between. I always like to say wait 30 seconds to 1 minute before layering the following product; otherwise, it may feel sticky, but it depends on many factors such as your skin type, the amount you use and how you apply the serums etc.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet okay thank you for clarifying and taking your time to reply! You are soooo awesome and helpful!! I hope you have a lovely day. Stay blessed.
@@sapoosh Happy to help, and the same goes for you :)
Hi melissa.. Can i use pycnogenol 5 percent with retinol?
Generally yes. But from my experience, The Ordinary antioxidant serums are very potent and often lead to sensitivity when combined with retinol.
Hello, I just wanted to ask if it's okay to use Amino Acid +B5 , Granactive Retinoid in squalane 2%, Pycnogenol 5% then moisturizer alltogether only in the evening ? And also which serum can I use during the morning. I have also sensitive skin, with a bit of pimples. Any recommendations regarding that? Thank you in advance (:
Yes, still my advice would be to not use Pycnogenol with Retinol but keep them separate because it can be a very strong combination, especially for sensitive skin types.
AM:
Cleanser
Amino Acids
Pycnogenol 5%
SPF (if exposed to the sun)
PM1:
Cleanser
Amino Acids
Granactive Retinoid in squalane 2%
For pimples, I recommend using a 2% Salicylic Acid cleanser or The new Ordinary 2% Solution.
PM2:
Cleanser
Amino Acids
The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% (new Anhydrous Solution)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hello Melissa! Thank you for the advice 🥰 I'll make sure to do that.
Does anyone else suffer from sweating off products shortly after they are applied on the face? 😭 It could be because I live in a hot & humid tropical area. It happens with my face moisturisers but especially with sunscreens which is why I've stopped using them (terrible considering the sun lives above my head 😂😂). Any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙏
Hey! :)
What's your current AM and PM routine? Also, what's your skin type?
You probably don't need to use a moisturiser at all (or just in the PM), and immediately move on to SPF.
What SPF did you use?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thanks for replying. My current routine is just cleansing & moisturising, although I purchased the pycnogenol recently & I watched this video to learn how to use it. The spf is also a moisturiser so when I used it in the past, I did not apply anything before it. It's the bondi sands sunscreen face lotion with spf 50. I used Neutrogena hydro boost spf 30 in the past & still sweated that off too.
@@hummingbird4335 So, cleanse your face, use about 2-3 drops of Pycnogenol and then follow with your SPF :) Do you still experience the 'sweating' with your current SPF?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet I haven't used spf in a long time because of the sweating. But you said in the video that pycnogenol can supplement sunscreen in protection against sun damage. That's why I'm considering starting spf again but worried about the sweating that starts within one minute of applying it 😭
@@hummingbird4335 Yes, that's true. However, what if you look into a mineral SPF that usually gives a bit more of a drying feeling. Or look into a gel or serum-like SPF.
can i use pycnogenol with EUK in the morning.. if yes then which one should go first..
Theoretically, yes, and you can layer in any order. Still, from my experience, using multiple strong antioxidants in the same routine can lead to sensitivity over time; therefore, I wouldn't recommend it.
Hi Melissa! Can I use Pycnogenol with Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12%?
yes, use Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12% first.
I also recommend watching the following video:
The Ordinary Layering:
th-cam.com/video/gMrV5WD8KkA/w-d-xo.html
What order do i apply pycnogenol and resveratrol
I wouldn't use them in the same routine as they can feel too oily/heavy on the skin. Instead, choose one of them per routine or alternate between them :)
I have a question about using no more than 3 serums. If I use Pycnogenol 5%, Mandelic Acid 10% + HA, and, Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Sphere 2% in the evening, and Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%, and, Caffeine Solution 5% (only under eyes), and Pycnogenol 5% is this too much? Does 3 serums mean altogether, or just AM/PM routines?
3 serum means 3 little bottles. You still can add a toner or cream/suspension if you like 🙂
Hi Melissa, can we use it with a marine hyaluronics and ceramide moisturizer?
yes, you can.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you dear
can i use it with granactive retinol.
Yes, however it is very potent. So my advice would be using them at different times.
Can you use the granactive retinol 2% with this and in what order
Yes, use Granactive Retinoid first.
Melissa..Can this be used with azelaic acid?
Yes, use Pygnogenol before Azelaic Acid. And give it 1-2 minutes in between.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you❤
is this best to use during day Or night time??
it does not matter; you can use it morning and or evening.
Please can we mix the pycnogeol with niacinamide
Yes, you can layer them. If you want to use both Niacinamide and Pygnogenol, it is recommended to apply Niacinamide first and then apply Pygnogenol on top.
Hi Melissa, can I use the ordinary's niacinamide with the pycnogenol?
Hello, Yes that's fine :)
I just purchased this pycnogenol with ordinary EUK I already have the naturals moisturiser. I was thinking to either use both am and pm or one am one pm?- is there anything else you recommend using with these products? I have some scarring so I was considering purchasing an acid/peel too for once a week use- and I am using Avene spf 50 😅 - my skin is combination I have just had very bad hormonal skin which is now cleared up since I stopped smoking cannabis. I’m just left with horrible dark spots and almost ice pick type scars / aging 😫😫
Hey :) Haha 🙂 , To be honest, no product can help you with ice pick scars. Therefore you need to visit a dermatologist.
However, for the "Dark Spots", you can lighten them with Vitamin C and use Retinol to speed up the process.
I recommend Paula's Choice products since The Ordinary products are all out of stock or the once that are great for your concerns.
I recommend using:
Paula's Choice Clinical 0,3% Retinol + 2% Bakuchiol Treatment
Paula's Choice Vitamin C 15 Booster
Routines can look like this:
AM:
Cleanser (Gentle! Example Cetaphil or Paula's Choice)
EUK 134 (3-5drops)
Sunscreen
PM 1(rest of the week):
Cleanser (Gentle! Example Cetaphil or Paula's Choice)
Vitamin C 15 Super Booster (3-5drops)
Pycnogenol (max 2-3drops!)
PM2 (2-3 times a week):
Cleanser
Paula's Choice Clinical 0,3% Retinol + 2% Bakuchiol Treatment
Natural Moisturizing factors
With this combination, you will see results after 8-12 weeks. But based on my experience there is no chance to get rid of the ice pick scars except for mechanical treatment. So I recommend asking a professional in your area! ;)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet I think they are more like just enlarged pores- they are not really deep ice pick scars like most of that description - I’m probably being dramatic 😂
I have been considering getting a professional peel done -
Thank you so much I will write this down and stick to this 💖
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet by the way you’re beautiful and a very kind soul !
Oh okay, so in this case, it may work well 🙂 Some people think it can heal actual scars or like you described it. And it does not. But the products do help well with dark spots.
Yes, I think that's the best you can do. And probably get some professional advice. See what they recommend, and after that, buy regular products because the results will be the same. 😉
So I have a new gentle cleanser -
Obviously the pycnogenol/euks /moisturising factors
I also have just brought retinol- niacinamide vitamin c and and the ordinary bha/aha peel. Can you reccomend a routine for these new products ? I think the vitamin c and pycnogenol work ok together ?
Thanks for your help 💖
I've recently starting using Pycnogenol and absolutely love it! How long have you been using it? Seen any results? I actually mix it with my moisturiser and enjoy using it that way. I'll try mixing it with vitamin C! ❤️✨👍🏾 Great upload, as always! ✨
Glad that you love it!❤️
Well, I have been using it for a bit more than a month (on and off) but I haven't used it daily since I'm trying out so much haha🤣 (as you may have noticed)...
My husband loves it a lot and the main difference he has noticed so far is that Pycnogenol makes his oily skin less oily whenever he is using it! He also uses it with the Vitamin C powder and Vitamin C Suspension in Silicon.
So far, we can't tell much about the anti-aging properties but both of us love how it applies and feels on the skin😊
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet haha yes, completely understand, hugely appreciate you trying out different routines with The Ordinary, very helpful! ☺️
From daily use, of like 2weeks I've noticed a huge difference with lightening post inflammatory hyperpigmentation. Definitely see a glow from using vitamin c and other antioxidants! 💛😇
Hope you are well, and having a productive week! ❤️✨
Hi Melissa! I am using Pycnogenol 5% after Buffet (regular one, without copper peptides) and Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%. When I apply Pycnogenol to my skin it it "flakes" on my fingers, almost like applying a physical exfoliator when you have these bits on your fingers after rubbing it on your face, any idea why that's happening? (I did a patch test and it doesn't irritate my skin)
Hey! :)
How much do you use of Buffet and Niacinamide before applying Pycnogenol?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet about two drops each. I noticed that when I pat the Pycnogenol instead of rubbing it it stays better, so maybe I'll try to stick with that, although it does still flake a bit when I rub the moisturizer afterwards :/
@@HaiderMatrix Yes, it's the access product that stays on the surface, and therefore you rub it off. What about using only 1-2 serums or a serum and the moisturizer and alternate? 🤔
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet will try that, thanks a lot for being so responsive!!
Can I use the ordinary retinol in emulsion after this in the evening ?
Yes, that's fine! See what feels best for you either Granactive Retinoid and then Pycnogenol or the other way around! :)
Thanks Melissa 😊 xx
Can I layer Pycnogenol with Granactive Retinoid? If so, which one first?
Technically they can be used in any order. BUT I think it does not layer well and may also be too potent. So I suggest using it at different times. For example, Pygnogenol in the morning the retinoid in the evening.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you!
Hi there ..Can u please help me which product vani user my pigmentation? Thank you
Hello :) It's difficult to treat! However you can try Ascorbic Acid 8% + Alpha Arbutin 2% this serum:
How To Use The Ordinary Ascorbic Acid 8% + Alpha Arbutin 2% | Full Demonstration:
th-cam.com/video/e7HBLSd4VNg/w-d-xo.html
Or you can try the Ordinary pigmentation routine:
The Ordinary Example Pigmentation Regimen | AM + PM Full Demonstration on Face:
th-cam.com/video/JKDoD3cSPTo/w-d-xo.html
Hi Melissa, can I use it after Glycolic Acid 7%?
It's very potent, and from my experience, it can lead to stinging. But they do not conflict, and therefore, yes, you can. But just keep that in mind ;)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you so much!
Hi melissa can i use :
Monday night glycolic acid from the ordinary
Tuesday night paula choice salicylic acid
Wednesday back again to glycolic acid
Thursday paula
Please help me thank you♥️♥️♥️
As my pm toner
Yes, you can do that but it’s fine to use both types of exfoliants (AHA and BHA) as part of your skin care routine - you can use them at the same time, alternate days of usage, or use one in the morning and one at night, depending on your preference.
I can’t tell if this is breaking me out, Im 22 and have clear ish skin but mine tends to be sensitive. I got it because I thought it would help with moisture & smoothing but I can’t really tell if it’s doing anything or if I even need it. Kinda confused on what exactly it does
That's how I feel most of the time 🙃
I bought niacinamide, pycnogenol, organic cold-pressed borage seed oil, euk 134 and the cleaning face wash. I don’t know which product is water based because two of them say water-free. Furthermore, none of these products have the ingredients on them. If it says pycnogenol 5%, what is the 95% of the product of? Does anyone know.
You can check their website for more information :)
deciem.com/en-us/theordinary/mas-rdn-pycnogenol-5pct.html
And I recommend watching my beginners guide:
The Ordinary For Beginners:
th-cam.com/video/diaLVk_EsI4/w-d-xo.html
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you 🙏
Thank you. 😍
Hi Melissa! Hoping you’re doing fine. Question: can I mix pycnogenol with azelaic acid before applying to the face?
Hm, I have never tried mixing. It may be not easy because of the formulations. But yes, they do not conflict :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet 😊 thank you
Just to let you know, I mix the pycnogenol with the azelaic acid, two drops with a pea size amount. The texture in my hands felt weird, but it glides beautifully on my face. Love the feeling.
@@claraevelezalvarez8204 Hey! Thanks for letting me know, I'm happy that you love that combination😊
@@claraevelezalvarez8204 hell and thank you for answering this question, this routine is it for am or pm? Thank you
Can I ask questions, actually could use oil rose though
yes, you can. Use it after.
Can I use this with the inky list retinol ?
yes that's possible :)
Is it safe for undereyes?
yes 🙂
Do you avoid the eye contours on all serums?
No, only some. Mainly exfoliating acids (AHA), Retinols, Vitamin C but usually the high strengths are an issue for some people, and when overusing them, it can lead to burning, redness etc.
hello! is it okay to use pycnogenol after AHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeling Solution?
Technically yes, but it can be a powerful combination. My advice is to use hydration after the solution not to irritate the skin further.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet alright, thank you sweetie!
Is it okay if it’s mixed with peptides that are not copper peptides?
Yes, that's fine :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet you’re really amazing at what you do, Melissa! Thank you for always answering our questions. ❤️