The imagery here is amazing. It shows that mental illnesses cannot go away just because you decided you don't need them anymore. The imagery of Madeline being thrown down under and falling deep in a pool of water is normally how people describe depression (and even stated by Madeline herself once). Just great.
Badeline: I know what you’re thinking. “It’s just a bundle of useless negativity and undesirable traits! Let’s just dump it here! I’m sure nobody will mind!”
@@melibe_ee and her voice is echoing too, with the music, the hair tentacles, and then she cut the golden feather when Madeline try to use it, shes BADass
same , it really gave me red eyes flash backs ( in case you dont know who that is , its a monster in the rpg maker game ib , he also at one point slowly crawls out of a painting , attempting to harm one of the characters , if you fail to escape in time ,depending on a certain stat either the character goes insane and has to be left behind , or he can be punched out of it
not realistic enough, she should have exploded into 8 orbs immediately after touching the purple crystal spikes and then respawn right at the beginning of the fall...
I love the detail in the conversation, when Badeline says 'You can't climb this mountain' instead of 'You wont climb this mountain' She is not an enemy trying to stop you out of cruelty, but the negative part of yourself that thinks you're not capable of doing anything
0:43 Oh god, no! You can't tell the manifestation of your inner self "You're not me!" It just pisses them off and makes them more powerful! Haven't you played Persona 4?!
This is...a really creative way to show hitting a snag when dealing with anxiety/depression. Or anything in life, really. We think we’re going along just fine, and suddenly, WHAM! There are ups and downs...and waaaay downs. It takes a while to get back up, and you don’t notice you’re doing it, because it feels so bad.
My first time playing Chapter 6, I remember looking at the map and thinking "so why is the camera framed to overlook a huge valley of crystals at the base of the mountain?" OH.
This is painfully relatable. I couldn’t help thinking of similar experiences I’ve had where after something leaves me feeling particularly happy and hopeful I end up thinking I can just let my issues go and watch them fly away like balloons. Only for those issues to suddenly get so much worse and drag me down to a low I didn’t think I could reach. I don’t have the same issues Madeline has but damn it’s still such a powerful portrayal of mental/emotional turmoil as a whole.
As somebody going through anxiety and depression I can say that Celeste nails them both perfectly. You can't just ignore or throw away your demons. They are still a part of you and they need to be fixed, not destroyed.
I like how Madeline comes to the wrong conclusion here, thinking she just learned a good life lesson, only for Badeline to just lash out at her. It's easy to think that you need to push away or ignore your depression and anxieties, like it's some unneeded cancerous growth that needs to be cut out. A lot of people will come to that same conclusion and think they've got it figured out, but it turns out that it really isn't that simple. You can't simply cut away and leave behind something that's still a huge part of you, and it's unhealthy to think that part of you is nothing but dangerous and force it away because it will always just push back even harder and lash out even more.
i really thought at first she was gone and then she said you're so stupid and i was like OH and THEN SHE CRAWLED OUT OF HER DIALOGUE BOX AND I WAS LIKE *O HH*
honestly the idea of celeste having multipe endings has always been so fascinating to me and i love imagining the different possibilities of what a celeste bad ending could be like
@@cloverlovania one idea I have is maybe after the Badeline chase scene you would have the choice of whether to forgive her or not, and if you choose to leave her behind and try climbing the summit without her, you inevitably fail due to the lack of dashes. and every time you die, the mountain gets a bit more distorted and glitchy. eventually, maybe Badeline or the seekers appear and chase her down the mountain, and then it shows a credits scene with different music than the normal one, showing an avalanche happening as Madeline gets chased and the whole mountain falls down around her. Then, it shows her falling down into a bottomless abyss. then, just as she's about to fall off the screen that bird that appears at the end of Prologue that teaches you how to dash, saying "would you like to try again?" if you press yes, it sends you back to the scene where you have an option to forgive her or not (except this time it doesn't let you say no) and if you press no in response to the bird, then. idk something happens.
Badeline was so angry, she could’ve climb out of the text box completely. Wait, since the anti-piracy vids are popular, someone could (and should) make a fan-made anti piracy vid about Badeline leaving the text box completely and punishing the player for pirating Celeste. That would be scary, ngl.
Honestly now I use the feather strategy as a way of calming down, I remember this and think of the stress as the music, I think of the feather as breathing and slowly make my mind fade it away until I’m calm, it works well
Finally! I was waiting for someone to talk about this scene. It's so deep! TL;DR: This scene, through various ways of expression, manages to show Purple haired Madeline's true personality: her fear, insecurities, self-destructive mechanisms and emotions. It's such an amazing way of showing these two characters. Well done creators of Celeste. (M=Madeline, P.M=Purple-haired Madeline) First thing: M: "The Northern lights are so beautiful". P.M: "Yeah... They are...". Something as trivial as that, but that's the first time she's not being hostile to Madiline straight away. No only do the eclipses (...) show that she's a bit hesitant and uncertain, but also that she wasn't really expecting this talk, but she's been with Madiline this whole time and can see what she sees. It widens her role. The uncertainty also shows doubt. She's doubting her own abilities already (showing insecurity), and doubting her misconception that Madeline couldn't climb the mountain (since they're so high up). This establishes her as more of a full character than 'just a part' of Madeline. Secondly: P.M: "where are we?" M: "We need to talk". P.M seems genuinely curious, and actually want to be involved, informed and engaged in what Madeline is doing, contrary to P.M's introduction. However, Madeline immediately shuts her inquiry down with a stern "we need to talk.", which shows how she's not trying to be cooperative, but trying to be finished with this all. Like a parent with a kid that's done something wrong. P.M: "...Okay". Again, sounds very trivial, but she's actually turning around. After being shut down like that, previously she would've immediately snapped at Madeline, but this time, P.M is giving her a chance. Showing that she's more inclined to cooperate. M: "You're not my true reflection". P.M: "...I'm not?" This again not only shows concern and uncertainties with the ellipsis, but shows that not even P.M knows who she really is (obviously), but she's a little more inclined to listening to Madeline now. 'Madeline figured something out about me? Maybe she understands me?' M:"You're cruel, paranoid, controlling..." P.M: "Why would you say that?" P.M finally started to come out of her shell, and open up a little (as shown above), but suddenly gets completely shut down. As soon as P.M started showing her not so mean side, she again gets shut down and told awful things about herself. This is the turning point of the conversation. Although P.M is still questioning and uncertainty (shown by the question mark), she's obviously hurt my Madeline's remarks. M: "No, It's ok! I understand now. I don't need you anymore!". Imagine finally showing some insecurity, and getting told you don't matter. After probably years of conflict between the two; after finally opening up a little, and warming up to Madeline, she gets told she's worthless. Useless. She's just someone that can be thrown away. P.M has probably helped Madeline a lot through her life, even when M didn't know it, and now she just wants her gone. That must be painful. Even though Madeline thinks she understands, she's further away from the real truth then perhaps ever, and this must also feel disappointing and scary for P.M. Your accomplice thinks you're the bad guy. P.M: "So you're just... Abandoning me?". P.M is starting to regress. Move futher away and be more cautious. She's slowly moving back into her shell again. Again, the "just..." shows that P.M knows Madeline hasn't put thought into this decision/mindset at all: she's just chosen it because it's most convenient. The ellipsis, now at the middle of the sentence shows how taken aback by Madeline's accusation she is and how regretful she is she let Madeline get closer to her. M: "I'm setting you free". Firstly, Madeline is being naive and unwilling to understand, or at least in P.M's eyes. She thinks she can just "set a part of her free", like P.M wasn't anyone important. This is further reflected in how, once Madeline "defeats" P.M later on, P.M doesn't say "fine, I'll leave" or "Ok, I'll go." Instead she says "If you want me to go away, I'll try". She knows she can't just leave Madeline (that's not how it works), but she'll try to disappear. To isolate herself and never be known again. The "I'll try" is just so powerful, and the noise she makes when she says it is heart breaking. And the way Madeline didn't even reject her question "abandoning me?", and instead corrected her makes it seem like Madeline is just rebranding it from sounding less harsh. 'I wouldn't call it "malicious destruction", just "my style of reconfiguration"...'. It just amplifies to P.M that Madeline's intentions aren't good (for P.M). Thus, she also continues to ignore Madeline's statement "We'll both be so much happier", as P.M has already been silenced and shut down. She doesn't need to listen to what Madeline has to say anymore. It's not nice, and it's not helpful. P.M is mildly zoning out. P.M: "You're so... *so...*" The squeal/noise P.M makes at the 2nd "so" is the most powerful thing out of this all IMO. Not only does it show how hurt she is by all this (especially in her picture where she forces her eyes shut, and even seems somewhat scared). She's so wounded and let down. It's excruciating. Furthermore, it comes after the "You're so...": she was about to insult Madelinine again and go back to her old ways, but still holds on to the damage Madeline just did to her. She doesn't want to go back to her old ways, and really thought Madeline could help, but she was just foolish. The impact this also has by her having her burst of anger straight after just shows how she's running tearfully back into her shell. Into the only barriers and comfort she knows: insults, intimidation and threatening. It's the only true safety mechanism she has, and it's been activated again: harder than ever. And this is obviously shown next. Madeline made a grave mistake... P.M's outbreak (also reflected in the threatening tentacles), is so warranted at this point. The way she slightly leaves her box, and appears dangerous and intimidating really hammers the point home. You've done it now Madeline. You've crossed the line... M: "Calm down" P.M: "*CALM DOWN?* without meaning to, Madeline continues to accidentally provoke P.M. By saying "Calm down", it reinforces how little Madeline realises how much it hurt to be talked to like that. It's not something you can just "Calm down from". Finally, the way P.M destroys the feather portrays how powerful and mean P.M now wants to show herself as. She wants to push Madeline away. Not only that, but she probably found it selfish of Madeline to just bring out the feather, ignore P.M and only try to help herself. This all shows how Purple Madeline isn't just the dark side: she is truly "Part of Madeline", with her own insecurities, doubts, safety walls and nets, and her own self. She can feel hurt, betrayed, wonder, happy, intrigued, scared, lonely etc... She not bad Madeline, she's a part of Madeline that has had reasons to set up self defence mechanisms like acting out, insulting and being unpleasant, because that's the only way she knows how to protect herself and stay safe. Purple Madeline is so much more, and has so many more capabilities, opinions and emotions. This scene really flushes out her character, and shows how things aren't so black and white as "good and bad". They both need each other. They're part of a whole.
Agree with everything except the “Badeline” argument. People don’t call her Badeline because she’s evil Madeline, they call her that because it’s literally her official name. It’s, if I recall correctly, in the steam trading cards, “Badeline.” That, and the fact that “Part of Madeline” or “Part of You” is a mouthful and doesn’t work in most contexts.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 Oh, well in that case, it makes a little more sense. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll edit my comment accordingly. Thanks for helping to point that out :)
This chapter has so much amazingness from the change of pace after falling to the badeline fight. It's really where this game's emotional aspect starts to show again.
Sheesh Madeline, you're so mean to Badeline, "You're cruel, paranoid, and controlling", "Don't worry I understand now. You are everything I need to leave behind!" 'Goodbye Badeline, you won't be missed'. No wonder Badeline got so mad
Yeah. Playing through this moment for the first time you don’t really catch that, because this whole time Badeline’s been such an antagonistic force and such an asshole about it that this feels more cathartic than anything. Then you realize that Madeline is literally saying the worst possible thing she could in this situation.
If that were the case, this version of this scene must have actually been set in Skinner's kitchen. And the northern lights Madeline was seeing in her dream were actually a raging inferno caused by his ruined roast.
I love this scene. Tbh it is my favourite one from the game, the way it builds up, the soundtrack, the speech, the visual representation of Madeline's problems prohibiting the feather method Theo taught her, the way Badeline makes her lose all of her progress... Truly amazing
my favorite cutscene in the game. everything about it is amazing, especially the conversation with badeline where she completely freaks out without you expecting it. had me frozen in place the first time i played
1:06 my cousin and i were doing mini voice acting for this part, and my cousin was Badeline. he decided to say out of nowhere "ur so stupid" safe to say he's a time traveler
Whatever Nokia 3310s are made of. She would have bore a hole straight to the Core two chapters early if there wasn't a body of water to stop her momentum.
When I saw this for the first time, it had a huge impact, this scene caught me very off guard, I wasn't expecting it and honestly, what an incredible scene, I will never be able to describe how much this scene and the "Starjump" OST left me baffled, Celeste is definitely in my top 5 favorite games.
I like a little detail that I don't think many people noticed. She says depression feels like being at the bottom of the ocean: you can't see anywhere and it feels claustrophobic, but you also feel exposed. Casually enough, when Badeline makes her fall, she lands on water and gets to the bottom. And not only that, but there's something behind her that's reflecting her... or is it exposing her?
fun fact: if you make a copy of chapter 6 with only the starjump section and delete theo, you now have a cutscene-less version of the starjump section. the object that controls how the blocks look and the music progression is called "star climb controller." the music progresses the further up you go, so you can extend the room to extend the section.
A dialogue we've all had with ourselves : "Phew.. You know, come to think of it, I'm actually feeling pretty alright day today..." "WHA'DID YOU SAY NIGGAAAAAAHH!?"
Every time I see Madeline’s big speech I’m like, “Madeline, _no…_ that’s not how this works…” Because no. That is *not* how this works. You can’t just excise a part of you. You’re gonna have to live with it.
„oh don‘t worry, i will leave you behind because i don‘t wanna be with you anymore and you‘re mean and controlling. I will leave you here for the rest of your life without me, isn‘t that great? :D“ „no“ „👁️👄👁️“
Badeline: I know what you’re thinking. “It’s just a bundle of negative personality traits. Let’s just leave it here on the mountain, nobody will mind!” 😂, 😭 … Well it’s not going down like that!
i simply can not believe you didn't get footage of the theo dating sim, as it is clearly the greatest moment in gaming history and one of the best things in all sorts of media. words can not express how disapointed i am.
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Everybody gangsta till badeline comes out of her text box
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The 148th Kakapo indeed
Just what I was gonna say
break the fourth wall
TRUUUUE lol
The imagery here is amazing. It shows that mental illnesses cannot go away just because you decided you don't need them anymore. The imagery of Madeline being thrown down under and falling deep in a pool of water is normally how people describe depression (and even stated by Madeline herself once). Just great.
Ana that LITERALY happened too
Badeline: I know what you’re thinking. “It’s just a bundle of useless negativity and undesirable traits! Let’s just dump it here! I’m sure nobody will mind!”
Also badeline reaching out of the text box to show a lack of self control
That scene when badeline got out of her textbox and screams scared me
@@melibe_ee and her voice is echoing too, with the music, the hair tentacles, and then she cut the golden feather when Madeline try to use it, shes BADass
Same
I thought it was awesome
same , it really gave me red eyes flash backs ( in case you dont know who that is , its a monster in the rpg maker game ib , he also at one point slowly crawls out of a painting , attempting to harm one of the characters , if you fail to escape in time ,depending on a certain stat either the character goes insane and has to be left behind , or he can be punched out of it
fat cat earrape music too.
not realistic enough, she should have exploded into 8 orbs immediately after touching the purple crystal spikes and then respawn right at the beginning of the fall...
Wooooooooooooooosh
@@Fenyx_Birb the woooosh is on you my sir.
@@Fenyx_Birb that doesn't even make sense
@@pestmant anyone here deserve woooosh lol
@@Fenyx_Birb well, the woooosh is on you my dude.
This genuinely kinda made my heart race the first time. Like I was experiencing what Madeline was.
_ Voidheart _ AND I LOVE IT
True dat
Lena raine does an amazing job with the soundtrack of this game in that regard, you can genuinely feel the emotion and anxiety in the music
Same here
ME TOO!!! Like so much other parts of the game. I genuinely feel what Madeline is feeling sometimes, and it makes the gameplay sooooo much better.
Madeline: Uh, I'm ok! The *spikes* broke my fall...
I love this reference.
Madeline: Uh, I'm _not_ ok! The *spikes* broke my *-fall-* body...
yeah they do that
Perfectly fine because she fell into water.
Isn't this line from a Crash game?
I love the detail in the conversation, when Badeline says 'You can't climb this mountain' instead of 'You wont climb this mountain'
She is not an enemy trying to stop you out of cruelty, but the negative part of yourself that thinks you're not capable of doing anything
Kinda like self doubt!
@@arrontheprotogen9276 and anxiety
ok
The music in this scene gives me goosebumps every time I watch it. The way it slowly builds and becomes louder is SOOOO GOOD!!
Any idea what it is called? I wanted to listen to this but am having trouble finding it.
Zuko The music in this scene is called ‘StarJump’
Vertically mixed dynamic sound design babyyyyyyy
Yup, StarJump is very cool!
Yeah was just watching something on that
What we learn from this is that badeline doesn’t like the fourth wall
Yes
also madeline has never played persona 4
@@dewroot5176 *i'll face myself intensifies*
@@dewroot5176And neither have I.
0:43 Oh god, no! You can't tell the manifestation of your inner self "You're not me!" It just pisses them off and makes them more powerful! Haven't you played Persona 4?!
*I'll Face Myself intensifies*
-haha denial go brrrrr-
“I am a shadow, the true self! You’re no mountain climber, and it’s about time you gave up and went home!”
big brain moment
I haven’t. what have I missed
I swear 2:16 - 2:40 was the longest 24 seconds of my life
This is...a really creative way to show hitting a snag when dealing with anxiety/depression. Or anything in life, really. We think we’re going along just fine, and suddenly, WHAM! There are ups and downs...and waaaay downs. It takes a while to get back up, and you don’t notice you’re doing it, because it feels so bad.
My first time playing Chapter 6, I remember looking at the map and thinking "so why is the camera framed to overlook a huge valley of crystals at the base of the mountain?"
OH.
This is painfully relatable. I couldn’t help thinking of similar experiences I’ve had where after something leaves me feeling particularly happy and hopeful I end up thinking I can just let my issues go and watch them fly away like balloons. Only for those issues to suddenly get so much worse and drag me down to a low I didn’t think I could reach. I don’t have the same issues Madeline has but damn it’s still such a powerful portrayal of mental/emotional turmoil as a whole.
As somebody going through anxiety and depression I can say that Celeste nails them both perfectly. You can't just ignore or throw away your demons. They are still a part of you and they need to be fixed, not destroyed.
I like how Madeline comes to the wrong conclusion here, thinking she just learned a good life lesson, only for Badeline to just lash out at her. It's easy to think that you need to push away or ignore your depression and anxieties, like it's some unneeded cancerous growth that needs to be cut out. A lot of people will come to that same conclusion and think they've got it figured out, but it turns out that it really isn't that simple. You can't simply cut away and leave behind something that's still a huge part of you, and it's unhealthy to think that part of you is nothing but dangerous and force it away because it will always just push back even harder and lash out even more.
i really thought at first she was gone and then she said you're so stupid and i was like OH and THEN SHE CRAWLED OUT OF HER DIALOGUE BOX AND I WAS LIKE *O HH*
I wish this account was still active haha!
The theme here, Starjump, is one of the best in the game. It has such a great buildup and twist, it's amazing
Totally agreed. While anxiety hits you even harder, this one is definitly in my top 3
This part is so cool. It’s like Badeline is disobeying the game’s rules, like she wasn’t supposed to appear in the game.
i genuinely thought i got a "bad ending" when i failed the feather cutscene
honestly the idea of celeste having multipe endings has always been so fascinating to me and i love imagining the different possibilities of what a celeste bad ending could be like
@@ivorywizard omg yeah thats an interesting thought actually !! what do you reckon itd be like?
@@cloverlovania one idea I have is maybe after the Badeline chase scene you would have the choice of whether to forgive her or not, and if you choose to leave her behind and try climbing the summit without her, you inevitably fail due to the lack of dashes. and every time you die, the mountain gets a bit more distorted and glitchy. eventually, maybe Badeline or the seekers appear and chase her down the mountain, and then it shows a credits scene with different music than the normal one, showing an avalanche happening as Madeline gets chased and the whole mountain falls down around her. Then, it shows her falling down into a bottomless abyss. then, just as she's about to fall off the screen that bird that appears at the end of Prologue that teaches you how to dash, saying "would you like to try again?" if you press yes, it sends you back to the scene where you have an option to forgive her or not (except this time it doesn't let you say no) and if you press no in response to the bird, then. idk something happens.
@@cloverlovania sorry this was super long
same lmao
Madeline, the house is on fire!
No Granny it's just the northern lights.
Badeline was so angry, she could’ve climb out of the text box completely. Wait, since the anti-piracy vids are popular, someone could (and should) make a fan-made anti piracy vid about Badeline leaving the text box completely and punishing the player for pirating Celeste. That would be scary, ngl.
Scary af
Someone should mod in Badeline complaining about the game being pirated!
This scene threw me off cuz she fell through the pink spikes & I thought I could dash through them...
Speedrunners be like: first time?
I mean she did break them on the way down though
Best game cutscene I've ever seen tbh
I fkn agreed with you and Badeline the best character in Celeste, she sweetheart and I was so glad when they cuddled and loved each other after all
Honestly now I use the feather strategy as a way of calming down, I remember this and think of the stress as the music, I think of the feather as breathing and slowly make my mind fade it away until I’m calm, it works well
Finally! I was waiting for someone to talk about this scene. It's so deep!
TL;DR: This scene, through various ways of expression, manages to show Purple haired Madeline's true personality: her fear, insecurities, self-destructive mechanisms and emotions. It's such an amazing way of showing these two characters. Well done creators of Celeste.
(M=Madeline, P.M=Purple-haired Madeline)
First thing: M: "The Northern lights are so beautiful". P.M: "Yeah... They are...". Something as trivial as that, but that's the first time she's not being hostile to Madiline straight away. No only do the eclipses (...) show that she's a bit hesitant and uncertain, but also that she wasn't really expecting this talk, but she's been with Madiline this whole time and can see what she sees. It widens her role. The uncertainty also shows doubt. She's doubting her own abilities already (showing insecurity), and doubting her misconception that Madeline couldn't climb the mountain (since they're so high up). This establishes her as more of a full character than 'just a part' of Madeline.
Secondly: P.M: "where are we?" M: "We need to talk". P.M seems genuinely curious, and actually want to be involved, informed and engaged in what Madeline is doing, contrary to P.M's introduction. However, Madeline immediately shuts her inquiry down with a stern "we need to talk.", which shows how she's not trying to be cooperative, but trying to be finished with this all. Like a parent with a kid that's done something wrong.
P.M: "...Okay". Again, sounds very trivial, but she's actually turning around. After being shut down like that, previously she would've immediately snapped at Madeline, but this time, P.M is giving her a chance. Showing that she's more inclined to cooperate.
M: "You're not my true reflection". P.M: "...I'm not?" This again not only shows concern and uncertainties with the ellipsis, but shows that not even P.M knows who she really is (obviously), but she's a little more inclined to listening to Madeline now. 'Madeline figured something out about me? Maybe she understands me?'
M:"You're cruel, paranoid, controlling..." P.M: "Why would you say that?" P.M finally started to come out of her shell, and open up a little (as shown above), but suddenly gets completely shut down. As soon as P.M started showing her not so mean side, she again gets shut down and told awful things about herself. This is the turning point of the conversation. Although P.M is still questioning and uncertainty (shown by the question mark), she's obviously hurt my Madeline's remarks.
M: "No, It's ok! I understand now. I don't need you anymore!". Imagine finally showing some insecurity, and getting told you don't matter. After probably years of conflict between the two; after finally opening up a little, and warming up to Madeline, she gets told she's worthless. Useless. She's just someone that can be thrown away. P.M has probably helped Madeline a lot through her life, even when M didn't know it, and now she just wants her gone. That must be painful. Even though Madeline thinks she understands, she's further away from the real truth then perhaps ever, and this must also feel disappointing and scary for P.M. Your accomplice thinks you're the bad guy.
P.M: "So you're just... Abandoning me?". P.M is starting to regress. Move futher away and be more cautious. She's slowly moving back into her shell again. Again, the "just..." shows that P.M knows Madeline hasn't put thought into this decision/mindset at all: she's just chosen it because it's most convenient. The ellipsis, now at the middle of the sentence shows how taken aback by Madeline's accusation she is and how regretful she is she let Madeline get closer to her.
M: "I'm setting you free". Firstly, Madeline is being naive and unwilling to understand, or at least in P.M's eyes. She thinks she can just "set a part of her free", like P.M wasn't anyone important.
This is further reflected in how, once Madeline "defeats" P.M later on, P.M doesn't say "fine, I'll leave" or "Ok, I'll go." Instead she says "If you want me to go away, I'll try". She knows she can't just leave Madeline (that's not how it works), but she'll try to disappear. To isolate herself and never be known again. The "I'll try" is just so powerful, and the noise she makes when she says it is heart breaking.
And the way Madeline didn't even reject her question "abandoning me?", and instead corrected her makes it seem like Madeline is just rebranding it from sounding less harsh. 'I wouldn't call it "malicious destruction", just "my style of reconfiguration"...'. It just amplifies to P.M that Madeline's intentions aren't good (for P.M). Thus, she also continues to ignore Madeline's statement "We'll both be so much happier", as P.M has already been silenced and shut down. She doesn't need to listen to what Madeline has to say anymore. It's not nice, and it's not helpful. P.M is mildly zoning out.
P.M: "You're so... *so...*" The squeal/noise P.M makes at the 2nd "so" is the most powerful thing out of this all IMO. Not only does it show how hurt she is by all this (especially in her picture where she forces her eyes shut, and even seems somewhat scared). She's so wounded and let down. It's excruciating. Furthermore, it comes after the "You're so...": she was about to insult Madelinine again and go back to her old ways, but still holds on to the damage Madeline just did to her. She doesn't want to go back to her old ways, and really thought Madeline could help, but she was just foolish. The impact this also has by her having her burst of anger straight after just shows how she's running tearfully back into her shell. Into the only barriers and comfort she knows: insults, intimidation and threatening. It's the only true safety mechanism she has, and it's been activated again: harder than ever. And this is obviously shown next. Madeline made a grave mistake...
P.M's outbreak (also reflected in the threatening tentacles), is so warranted at this point. The way she slightly leaves her box, and appears dangerous and intimidating really hammers the point home. You've done it now Madeline. You've crossed the line...
M: "Calm down" P.M: "*CALM DOWN?* without meaning to, Madeline continues to accidentally provoke P.M. By saying "Calm down", it reinforces how little Madeline realises how much it hurt to be talked to like that. It's not something you can just "Calm down from".
Finally, the way P.M destroys the feather portrays how powerful and mean P.M now wants to show herself as. She wants to push Madeline away. Not only that, but she probably found it selfish of Madeline to just bring out the feather, ignore P.M and only try to help herself.
This all shows how Purple Madeline isn't just the dark side: she is truly "Part of Madeline", with her own insecurities, doubts, safety walls and nets, and her own self. She can feel hurt, betrayed, wonder, happy, intrigued, scared, lonely etc... She not bad Madeline, she's a part of Madeline that has had reasons to set up self defence mechanisms like acting out, insulting and being unpleasant, because that's the only way she knows how to protect herself and stay safe.
Purple Madeline is so much more, and has so many more capabilities, opinions and emotions. This scene really flushes out her character, and shows how things aren't so black and white as "good and bad". They both need each other. They're part of a whole.
Agree with everything except the “Badeline” argument.
People don’t call her Badeline because she’s evil Madeline, they call her that because it’s literally her official name. It’s, if I recall correctly, in the steam trading cards, “Badeline.”
That, and the fact that “Part of Madeline” or “Part of You” is a mouthful and doesn’t work in most contexts.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 Oh, well in that case, it makes a little more sense. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll edit my comment accordingly. Thanks for helping to point that out :)
I mean Madeline isn't called Madeline because she's mad
@@TheGalaxyWings I don't know if I said something to make you infer that was one of my points. I know Madeline is an ordinary, fairly common name
@@thegamerpokemon5767 that was a joke
I just love how the other Madeline go though the text box as is was breaking the fourth wall
This is one of the best ways I’ve seen depression shown/symbolized, ever. If you haven’t, go play this game.
Scary how well they captured what negative self-talk is like. You really do become a monster in your own head
Thanks, I was looking exactly for this scene WITHOUT commentary. Blessed!
madeline: **does literally everything wrong**
madeline: why is she mad at me
SO TRUE
This chapter has so much amazingness from the change of pace after falling to the badeline fight. It's really where this game's emotional aspect starts to show again.
Sheesh Madeline, you're so mean to Badeline, "You're cruel, paranoid, and controlling", "Don't worry I understand now. You are everything I need to leave behind!" 'Goodbye Badeline, you won't be missed'. No wonder Badeline got so mad
Yeah. Playing through this moment for the first time you don’t really catch that, because this whole time Badeline’s been such an antagonistic force and such an asshole about it that this feels more cathartic than anything.
Then you realize that Madeline is literally saying the worst possible thing she could in this situation.
@Mr. Cup Ikr, first playthrough I was like "yeah, they just gotta part ways or somethin" and actually thought Badeline was doing the right thing
@David Lobato Colon It's true that Madeline was right, but I don't think it's a good idea to tell that *to the person trying to kill you*
This part was kinda ruined for me the first time because the switch version had a glitch where the aruraborealis kept flickering
If that were the case, this version of this scene must have actually been set in Skinner's kitchen. And the northern lights Madeline was seeing in her dream were actually a raging inferno caused by his ruined roast.
I love this scene. Tbh it is my favourite one from the game, the way it builds up, the soundtrack, the speech, the visual representation of Madeline's problems prohibiting the feather method Theo taught her, the way Badeline makes her lose all of her progress... Truly amazing
my favorite cutscene in the game. everything about it is amazing, especially the conversation with badeline where she completely freaks out without you expecting it. had me frozen in place the first time i played
Badeline coming out of the text box was so surprising
Try not to scream and cry while playing video game challenge
This is so true though. The more you think you’ve beat it, the worse it gets
1:06
my cousin and i were doing mini voice acting for this part, and my cousin was Badeline. he decided to say out of nowhere "ur so stupid"
safe to say he's a time traveler
your cousin is Badeline, accept it.
i get goosebumps every time i watch this cutscene. reflection is my all-time favorite chapter story-wise and gameplay-wise.
So we're not gonna talk about how Madeline survived a fall of about 2.5-3km?
Through spikes that kill you in gameplay too
Maybe because the mountain is a metaphor for the act of overcoming and reconciliation. She is climbing her psyche.
@@RobertHalvarsson yeah but she also fell through a literal mountain. girl how
@@cloverlovania Celeste is a game with no fall damage lol
@@Gardengap but if it was real.....
Yeah, no, she DEFINITELY died on those pink things on the way down :P
Super cool how she comes out of the text box though, I really like that
What is Madeline made of??
she's keeping herself alive out of sheer spite, like the old lady suggested
Whatever Nokia 3310s are made of. She would have bore a hole straight to the Core two chapters early if there wasn't a body of water to stop her momentum.
@@Megacooltommydee yeahhh . . . And after that crash she climbed to the whole frickin summit
strawberries.
Strawberries.
that perfect cut
Wouldve been scarier if badeline split into 5 while circling madeline
oooof gives off that paranorman vibe if you know what I mean
@@officiallywhelmed if that were to happen, I’d have pissed myself
@@Manul-the-cato-lover I have no idea why the fuck I replied to that lmao
When I saw this for the first time, it had a huge impact, this scene caught me very off guard, I wasn't expecting it and honestly, what an incredible scene, I will never be able to describe how much this scene and the "Starjump" OST left me baffled, Celeste is definitely in my top 5 favorite games.
🦀 Madeline’s spine is gone 🦀
My favorite part of any video game ever
This is my favorite cutscene out of any videogame
I thought Badeline would crawl completely out of the text box and punch Madeline in the face or something.
1:23 that sound actually sounds like the words “Calm down, please”! Great voice acting
She fell 800 times longer than frisk ever did
Story of undertale
Badaline went sicko mode.
Man, her popping out the text box hits different
recovery isn't linear
The soundtrack slaps
This cutscene was fucking amazing omgoodness
Madeline and Badeline are such a fantastic couple of characters.
you think your *ABOVE* me?
I'm a cat so I'm on ur head
When your friend eats the last slice of pizza because he thinks hes the most smartest
Mel no
well not anymore I’m at the bottom of the fucking mountain
Its over Badeline, I have the high ground!
Dislikes are from 3 Badeline clones
This music gives me goosebumps every time
genuinely one of the best scenes in video game history
I like a little detail that I don't think many people noticed. She says depression feels like being at the bottom of the ocean: you can't see anywhere and it feels claustrophobic, but you also feel exposed.
Casually enough, when Badeline makes her fall, she lands on water and gets to the bottom. And not only that, but there's something behind her that's reflecting her... or is it exposing her?
the ost is so brilliantly used, it's crazy
That's just plain out rude to say to someones face lmfao
2:16 the entire plot of God of war 3
I would rly love to see someone voice acting this scene.
Might send you a voice clip.
fun fact: if you make a copy of chapter 6 with only the starjump section and delete theo, you now have a cutscene-less version of the starjump section. the object that controls how the blocks look and the music progression is called "star climb controller." the music progresses the further up you go, so you can extend the room to extend the section.
Agreed this is the best cutscene.
I LOVE THIS SCENE SO MUCH
This is genuinely my favorite scene in Celeste
same here
I too find myself talking to myself.... but both are wrong...
That grab hurted.
Good thing those pink spikes that kill you instantly broke her fall down 😂
A dialogue we've all had with ourselves :
"Phew.. You know, come to think of it, I'm actually feeling pretty alright day today..."
"WHA'DID YOU SAY NIGGAAAAAAHH!?"
Especially if you tell that part of you to buzz off…
Nice feather control during the cutscene!
The entire cutscene where Madeline tries confronting Badeline is very memorable
I thought i got a bad ending when I lost the feather minigame
2:15 woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooah
story of undertale
The second best cinematic of gaming
First one is doom eternal intro
Every time I see Madeline’s big speech I’m like, “Madeline, _no…_ that’s not how this works…”
Because no. That is *not* how this works. You can’t just excise a part of you. You’re gonna have to live with it.
This is one of the best levels in any game ever
i like music in this scene)
This is my first time playing celeste... I always messed up the feather breathing...... How the fuck do I get up there?!!
I Have The *High Ground*
Just a few seconds ahead of my part of the game
Badeline reminds me of Azula from Last Airbender when she comes out of the text box.
oh god not the trauma tentacles
SOMETHING
the music tho
Starjump is the best song in the game
ok it’s quite apparent that Madeline is trying to solve this, and performing worse at such than my brother and chess, which is probably not good
„oh don‘t worry, i will leave you behind because i don‘t wanna be with you anymore and you‘re mean and controlling. I will leave you here for the rest of your life without me, isn‘t that great? :D“
„no“
„👁️👄👁️“
Badeline: I know what you’re thinking. “It’s just a bundle of negative personality traits. Let’s just leave it here on the mountain, nobody will mind!” 😂, 😭 … Well it’s not going down like that!
i simply can not believe you didn't get footage of the theo dating sim, as it is clearly the greatest moment in gaming history and one of the best things in all sorts of media.
words can not express how disapointed i am.
like if you came here to see wtf happens if u do the feather correctly
I lost it at this point
ok but can someone explain how the spikes instantly regenerate after you fall through them like what
How did Madeline survive falling from an entire mountain
1:20 there ain't no co-
Anyone know what the track is called for the section?
@@melibe_ee thanks!
Starjump