The coolest thing in this musical is that we can interpret what’s happening merely through the instrumentals, based on motifs of certain scenes (like “danger is nearby”motif, “storm” motif, etc.), motifs of certain characters (like Odysseus motif, Athena motif, Penelope motif, Telemachus motif, Circe motif, etc.), certain instruments (guitars, piano, viola, etc.), and certain musical elements (like the use of electrical music elements, etc.). Thank you, Mr. Jalapeño, for presenting the world with such a masterpiece.
You know it's effective when the fandom immediately recognizes Penelope's motif when Odysseus yells "I can't!" when Circe tempts him. Such a nice touch!
@@JayHerrans Honestly, Mr. Gorgy- may I call you Jorgy? Your consistency with motifs and rhythms is some of the best I've ever listened to, and it really does make it all come together in such beautiful ways. If I had any artistic talent whatsoever, I assure you I would be paying you in the topmost quality fanarts to give thanks
Yes ! I espacially like the "full speed ahead" motif (I named it like that idk) like in Remember them we can almost hear the "we're up we're off and away we go" wich in this situation... yes please go faaar away from here XD
I also love how the motive also correlates to the mood. Like, in Puppeteer, Circe is very calm. She knows what happening and she is in control. The drums reflect a calm heartbeat and the strings an assured mind. In Done For, it all speeds up. The heartbeat like drum goes faster, like some filled with adrenaline and the strings are sped up like someone having to fight and find a quick solution.Circe has to fight and is loosing control and ground. And in There Are Other Ways, she slowly calms down but seems more invigorated and positive. The drums find their tempo again and the strings have still a bit more pep to them. She as a person stays the same, just like her motiv stays the same and still there is a subtle difference.
I have ADHD and my mind is constantly going on about something but finding Epic the Musical was a life changer!! All the instruments playing in the background of each song and each character having different sounds to tell you a story is absolutely breathtaking!
YESSSS. Storytelling through motifs is so underrated. I have actually read the odyssey before, but I noticed that unlike all the foes Odysseus has faced, the danger motif never played in Circe's songs, foreshadowing that she doesn't exactly end up becoming an enemy.
This is exactly why I went back through all the songs listening specifically for the danger motif: I’m sure there are places where it’s left out just for structural reasons of it clashing or overcomplicating the music, but there are some very interesting implications you can draw from places it doesn’t show up, places it does that you might not have expected, and how.
The strings really fit Circe so well!! Literally, EPIC is my new favorite musical!! So excited to see more songs soon!! :DD 🎶✨ Side note: I’m a music student and I can say that learning even just the basics in music theory (such as taking notes of the scales, chords and their respective functions), it will make writing and noting the music so much easier! Thanks for showing the backgrounds of how the songs are made, this was really cool ^^
My daughter played the Circe Saga for her friends on the way to their spring break camp and to the surprise of no one, they're now obsessed. I'll be sure to send this to them, too, since many of them are in band/orchestra and will appreciate the extra insight! Thanks, Jay!
When I heard you first play the motif, I was like "wait, isn't that in There Are Other Ways"? You, sir, are a genius. Thank you for putting so much effort into this musical
I love how throughout all of Epic, it's not hard to picture whats going on thanks to all these motifs, each character has their theme n instruments, situational themes appear every now and then, the way some characters motifs play even when they aren't around. I like that the troy saga cements in the themes for ody and the crew, and from there on each saga introduces new motifs for new big characters. Ofc for each saga the motifs for the cyclops, poseidon and circe and everpresent, but so are the motifs for ody and the crew, musically showing how they're facing off these "big bads" on their journey home (and subsequently, ody's journey to ruthlessness) Mr Jorgy gorgy you've done phenomenally well and thank you for all you've created!!
I love how the strings are faster in done for to give an air of suspense since it's a battle scene. and also the kick drum is such a satisfying beat, i would listen to that alone and be happy lol
I appreciate these videos so much! Thank you for pointing out the details of your music and explaining them to us. It makes it so much fun to go back and listen to the songs again, paying attention to the details I might not have noticed otherwise. Hope you have an amazing day! :D
There are few things more satisfying then when I recognize a motif in a song where I didn’t expect it, like in “There Are Other Ways” when Odysseus goes “I CAN’T!” and then Penelope’s motif starts playing.
I love leitmotif so much. Even discounting the fascinating ways it affects the actual sound and structure of music, even just conceptually I adore it; it makes the soundtrack itself become an active character in the media it’s backing. How is that not the coolest and prettiest concept ever?
Woah!! That's cool af man!!!! Thank you so much for making these videos that explore how these musical instruments and themes associate with a character to make their songs more distinct and coherent. Wow. I still cannot fully process the genius of Mr Jalapeño
I had a dream last night where, on top of Epic, Jay just released an entire mini musical about Medea and the Golden Fleece, and I'm just saying I'M ONTO YOU MR JALAPEÑO! (But as always, great work, sir. This saga is fantasic!)
As someone that doesnt have the avility to hear music in an analytical way (my musician friend tested me a few times and tells me I don't have very discerning hearing when it comes to notes and tones), I reallt appreciate these breakdowns. They help me appreciate all the complexities and thought thay goes into writing this music that I wouldn't likely hear on my own.
I really enjoy listening to your music and I might have made my friend addicted too😂 And I really appreciate the effort thats in it. And all of these little details are real perfection.
I’m trying to get more into music and song writing and honestly jay has helped so much! thank you! plus epic may or may not have inspired a book I’m planning to write :))))
I've been a singer for nine years now and I'm decising to jump into the magic of composition because I sooo want to put some of my ideas and thoughts out into the world. You are now one of my inspirations: that you can craft such genius poetry and deep meaning gives me hope to what I can accomplish. I can only hope that you see this and maybe share a little more on your background and where I can learn to master the tools you have. I already see you use Ableton Live. I had planned on using FL Studio or Studio One but you may change my mind.
What I love about musicals is these "motifs", and I'm very happy to see your videos explaining them in your work. It's a mind-blowing moment when I find out about them.
This was such a helpful video, Jay. I feel like it can be applied to so many different crafts, too! I like to draw and write, but I’m self-taught and don’t have a strong background in art or writing. Just like with music, it’s important to study and learn these things, but the simple tools are effective too and it’s important to have fun with it. Thanks for this reminder!
It's so much fun when you point these little things out to us. It also makes me happy to know Circe has a constant throughout the entire saga that is subtle and as you said, it is simple yet effective. Otherwise, it would be a bit too daunting how quickly she changes her mindset to face issues. The kick drum gives a simple step-by-step dance for us, Jay, and the character herself to stay steady. It is a building block to strategy and approach.
As someone not versed in the world music knowledge, I adore when you post videos like this explaining the elements. Makes it so much more fun to listen to the saga. Thank you! Can't wait to hear the next act!
Thank you so much for videos like this, about your proccess of creating the musical and stuff! ^^ I'm also doing my own attempt at writing a mythology-inspired musical (not about the greek stuff tho haha), so I find it both very useful and fascinating
Even for those of us who have some music theory, mine being Band, this still helps us write music. The way you describe it without the terms helps it feel a little less overwhelming but also a little less like work. You make it more fun to write music. Thank you, Mr. Jalapeño.
This is so cool! I love that you share different aspects and motifs that you use in your music to all of us! It’s really helpful and it encourages me a lot to know that you’re here to help us and not just to share your music! I’ve been wanting to write my own musical but have had no idea how to start nor know anything about music whatsoever so your short videos on these topics really help! Thank you Jay!💛
God Jorge I love ya so much, as someone that takes great appreciation on this details, you truly are amazing for giving us this insight so everyone can now know :D
I love seeing these BTS videos! The music you and the rest are making is just fantastic and you deserve all the love and support that we as a community can give.
It seems to me that the strings represent Circe’s mind and the drum her heart. Puppeteer is her baseline so to speak. In Done For she really has to use her mind more than her heart. So the strings are faster. At the end of There Are Other Ways she’s had a change of heart and is following that more. So the drums seem faster.
Wait, Circe's character is all about having power and control, pulling the strings, so her musical motif is literally pulls strings! 🤯 ETA: Hang on, I'm getting my staccato and pizzicato mixed up. But the puppets/strings bit still works.
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The coolest thing in this musical is that we can interpret what’s happening merely through the instrumentals, based on motifs of certain scenes (like “danger is nearby”motif, “storm” motif, etc.), motifs of certain characters (like Odysseus motif, Athena motif, Penelope motif, Telemachus motif, Circe motif, etc.), certain instruments (guitars, piano, viola, etc.), and certain musical elements (like the use of electrical music elements, etc.). Thank you, Mr. Jalapeño, for presenting the world with such a masterpiece.
THIS COMMENT MADE MY DAY 😭😭😭🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼💙💙💙 thank you so much for your kind words and support!!! I’m so happy you’re enjoying EPIC!!!!
You know it's effective when the fandom immediately recognizes Penelope's motif when Odysseus yells "I can't!" when Circe tempts him. Such a nice touch!
@@NoName-in3sx ikr! When I first listeners to there are other ways I was already singing Penelope's name when her music showed up!
@@JayHerrans Honestly, Mr. Gorgy- may I call you Jorgy? Your consistency with motifs and rhythms is some of the best I've ever listened to, and it really does make it all come together in such beautiful ways. If I had any artistic talent whatsoever, I assure you I would be paying you in the topmost quality fanarts to give thanks
Yes ! I espacially like the "full speed ahead" motif (I named it like that idk) like in Remember them we can almost hear the "we're up we're off and away we go" wich in this situation... yes please go faaar away from here XD
Do you think this man knows the power he wields?
I don't think so, not to the fullest atleast
Hermanos better at music than Apollo
[Start chain] Wouldnt you like a taste of the power
@@blocksimba_shortswouldn't you like to use more than words?
Deep in the night the fight lasts for hours
I also love how the motive also correlates to the mood. Like, in Puppeteer, Circe is very calm. She knows what happening and she is in control. The drums reflect a calm heartbeat and the strings an assured mind. In Done For, it all speeds up. The heartbeat like drum goes faster, like some filled with adrenaline and the strings are sped up like someone having to fight and find a quick solution.Circe has to fight and is loosing control and ground.
And in There Are Other Ways, she slowly calms down but seems more invigorated and positive. The drums find their tempo again and the strings have still a bit more pep to them. She as a person stays the same, just like her motiv stays the same and still there is a subtle difference.
These videos make me so happy, I can always feel how excited he is about his own work
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I have ADHD and my mind is constantly going on about something but finding Epic the Musical was a life changer!! All the instruments playing in the background of each song and each character having different sounds to tell you a story is absolutely breathtaking!
YESSSS. Storytelling through motifs is so underrated. I have actually read the odyssey before, but I noticed that unlike all the foes Odysseus has faced, the danger motif never played in Circe's songs, foreshadowing that she doesn't exactly end up becoming an enemy.
Oooh I hadn't noticed that before!
This is exactly why I went back through all the songs listening specifically for the danger motif: I’m sure there are places where it’s left out just for structural reasons of it clashing or overcomplicating the music, but there are some very interesting implications you can draw from places it doesn’t show up, places it does that you might not have expected, and how.
The little details in Epic truly make it shine. Phenomenal work, we're all so excited to see the final sagas!
Even though i have practically no musical knowledge, i never skip any one of your videos, they make my day honestly
The strings really fit Circe so well!! Literally, EPIC is my new favorite musical!! So excited to see more songs soon!! :DD 🎶✨
Side note: I’m a music student and I can say that learning even just the basics in music theory (such as taking notes of the scales, chords and their respective functions), it will make writing and noting the music so much easier! Thanks for showing the backgrounds of how the songs are made, this was really cool ^^
My daughter played the Circe Saga for her friends on the way to their spring break camp and to the surprise of no one, they're now obsessed. I'll be sure to send this to them, too, since many of them are in band/orchestra and will appreciate the extra insight! Thanks, Jay!
When I heard you first play the motif, I was like "wait, isn't that in There Are Other Ways"? You, sir, are a genius. Thank you for putting so much effort into this musical
I love how each character has their own uniqe sounds!
This musical is too cool i cant even handle it mister jalapeños
I love how throughout all of Epic, it's not hard to picture whats going on thanks to all these motifs, each character has their theme n instruments, situational themes appear every now and then, the way some characters motifs play even when they aren't around. I like that the troy saga cements in the themes for ody and the crew, and from there on each saga introduces new motifs for new big characters. Ofc for each saga the motifs for the cyclops, poseidon and circe and everpresent, but so are the motifs for ody and the crew, musically showing how they're facing off these "big bads" on their journey home (and subsequently, ody's journey to ruthlessness)
Mr Jorgy gorgy you've done phenomenally well and thank you for all you've created!!
I'm completely inept in music, so these deep dives into songs makes me so much more appreciative of the work that must go into making the musical!
And then we find out that he is the grandson of Apollo.
I love how the strings are faster in done for to give an air of suspense since it's a battle scene. and also the kick drum is such a satisfying beat, i would listen to that alone and be happy lol
Oh gosh- DUDE, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ME SCROLL THROUGH SONGS, TRYING TO FIND MOTIFS, MAN.
I appreciate these videos so much! Thank you for pointing out the details of your music and explaining them to us. It makes it so much fun to go back and listen to the songs again, paying attention to the details I might not have noticed otherwise. Hope you have an amazing day! :D
the pianos in all the moments thatd Immensely impact odysseus' life!!!!
Imagine Mr. jalapeño as a music teacher, the amount of things we learn in a 3 minute video is crazy
The strings really fit Circe so well!!
THE AMOUNT OF TALENT THIS MAN POSSESSES OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH
I love the strings in Circe’s music!!! You’re doing awesome, Jorge! Keep going, we’re all here for you! 💙
Bro is a musical genius 🎶 🧠 ✨
Babe wake up Jay posted something
There are few things more satisfying then when I recognize a motif in a song where I didn’t expect it, like in “There Are Other Ways” when Odysseus goes “I CAN’T!” and then Penelope’s motif starts playing.
This type of videos is my favorite!!
I love leitmotif so much. Even discounting the fascinating ways it affects the actual sound and structure of music, even just conceptually I adore it; it makes the soundtrack itself become an active character in the media it’s backing. How is that not the coolest and prettiest concept ever?
That’s amazing!!! I love those hidden details in EPIC! Every time you reveal something, it’s like a treasure hunt!!
This man is so modest, he can create musical masterpieces and still say he has much to learn. Total badass 🔥
I love music theory, especially in storytelling
Woah!! That's cool af man!!!!
Thank you so much for making these videos that explore how these musical instruments and themes associate with a character to make their songs more distinct and coherent. Wow. I still cannot fully process the genius of Mr Jalapeño
Babe, wake up, Jorgy Gorgy dropped another explanation video
I had a dream last night where, on top of Epic, Jay just released an entire mini musical about Medea and the Golden Fleece, and I'm just saying I'M ONTO YOU MR JALAPEÑO!
(But as always, great work, sir. This saga is fantasic!)
Mr Jalapeño, Mr Jimbo Pimbo, Mr Jorgy Gorgy, you sir are a musical genius
I absolutely loved the Circe Saga! It’s so good ❤
I LOVE all of these songs. The pure amount and depth of ear candy in every song is just 👌 chef's kiss ✨
As someone that doesnt have the avility to hear music in an analytical way (my musician friend tested me a few times and tells me I don't have very discerning hearing when it comes to notes and tones), I reallt appreciate these breakdowns. They help me appreciate all the complexities and thought thay goes into writing this music that I wouldn't likely hear on my own.
In love with motifs and I'm so happy to give people this musical as a perfect example of it!
Dude has the best, most natural smile and I love it. Keep up the awesome work! You're great dude!
Okay but in There Are Other Ways when Odysseus says "I can't!" and then Penelope's motif plays-
I really enjoy listening to your music and I might have made my friend addicted too😂 And I really appreciate the effort thats in it. And all of these little details are real perfection.
I love these little lectures on underlying music patterns😊
You are a genius in melody construction. I can't wait to hear your next album, the underworld saga.
This musical is so complex and interesting that it's teaching me music theory. I get so excited to introduce others to this in progress masterpiece
I cannot fathom the thought behind all of this. It’s so impressive! I absolutely live for your releases 💓
I appreciate you educating us as well as gifting us with this music. Thank you.
I’m trying to get more into music and song writing and honestly jay has helped so much! thank you! plus epic may or may not have inspired a book I’m planning to write :))))
I've been a singer for nine years now and I'm decising to jump into the magic of composition because I sooo want to put some of my ideas and thoughts out into the world. You are now one of my inspirations: that you can craft such genius poetry and deep meaning gives me hope to what I can accomplish.
I can only hope that you see this and maybe share a little more on your background and where I can learn to master the tools you have. I already see you use Ableton Live. I had planned on using FL Studio or Studio One but you may change my mind.
What I love about musicals is these "motifs", and I'm very happy to see your videos explaining them in your work.
It's a mind-blowing moment when I find out about them.
This was such a helpful video, Jay. I feel like it can be applied to so many different crafts, too! I like to draw and write, but I’m self-taught and don’t have a strong background in art or writing. Just like with music, it’s important to study and learn these things, but the simple tools are effective too and it’s important to have fun with it. Thanks for this reminder!
I'm a very beginner songwriter and I love Epic the musical, these videos are really interesting and inspiring to me
I love the amount of detail you put in
It sounds like a heart beat under a spell.
It’s honestly all so fascinating! Thank you for sharing because I love learning about it!
Change this man’s name to Jorge “Jay” Rivera-Houdini because he is a magician. I love the music keep up the work brother and don’t give up
It's so much fun when you point these little things out to us. It also makes me happy to know Circe has a constant throughout the entire saga that is subtle and as you said, it is simple yet effective. Otherwise, it would be a bit too daunting how quickly she changes her mindset to face issues. The kick drum gives a simple step-by-step dance for us, Jay, and the character herself to stay steady. It is a building block to strategy and approach.
All this details makes it so special.
It is amazing how well thought out every Song is and with how much love and passion everything is done.
I love this musical for the same reasons. I love Sondheim's work. I love musical motifs so much.
As someone not versed in the world music knowledge, I adore when you post videos like this explaining the elements. Makes it so much more fun to listen to the saga. Thank you! Can't wait to hear the next act!
It’s awesome how excited you are about your art, how did I just discover Epic???
Thank you so much for videos like this, about your proccess of creating the musical and stuff! ^^ I'm also doing my own attempt at writing a mythology-inspired musical (not about the greek stuff tho haha), so I find it both very useful and fascinating
It took me a few relistens to realize there’s no puppet here sung fast sounds like puppeteer
Even for those of us who have some music theory, mine being Band, this still helps us write music. The way you describe it without the terms helps it feel a little less overwhelming but also a little less like work. You make it more fun to write music. Thank you, Mr. Jalapeño.
Simple, elegant, beautiful
That kick drum kinda sounds like a beating heart, not sure if that was intentional but it’s certainly interesting
Goes to show you don't need fancy terms and education to be a musical genius! ;D
Bro you are a fricking genius, it’s amazing!!!
This is so cool! I love that you share different aspects and motifs that you use in your music to all of us! It’s really helpful and it encourages me a lot to know that you’re here to help us and not just to share your music! I’ve been wanting to write my own musical but have had no idea how to start nor know anything about music whatsoever so your short videos on these topics really help! Thank you Jay!💛
God Jorge I love ya so much, as someone that takes great appreciation on this details, you truly are amazing for giving us this insight so everyone can now know :D
Me acting like this is gonna help with my animation series despite the fact I ain't making music for it
I love seeing these BTS videos! The music you and the rest are making is just fantastic and you deserve all the love and support that we as a community can give.
I do not understand music theory though find your work inspiring for being a hobby writer and just inspiring for life in general.
I love seeing all the work and thought that goes behind these songs! It's truly amazing :D
If you play the kick drums fast it sounds like “rotten to the core” 😍😍😍😍😍
JAY. JORGE.JORGY GORGY. MY MAN. WHEN IS THE UNDERWORLD SAGA GOING TO COME OUT?
The staccato strings are also the intro of There Are Other Ways❤
I really hope you release a instrument only version of these songs to listen to these
AGAIN.... I WAS ABLE TO WATCH THIS IN PICTURES.
Thank you for being such a genius and giving us your music 🙏✨
It seems to me that the strings represent Circe’s mind and the drum her heart. Puppeteer is her baseline so to speak. In Done For she really has to use her mind more than her heart. So the strings are faster. At the end of There Are Other Ways she’s had a change of heart and is following that more. So the drums seem faster.
Jay, this is so cool! Wow!
I also noticed at the beginning of there are other ways, the same melody plays (just without the drums)
This is so cool
Me listening to these songs everyday 🤪
King is the best song in epic and no one can tell me otherwise
Do you have any advice or resources for music composition? You have a gift, God bless you and your project with your fellow "crew mates"
In before people comment in a few years about how a similar motif might be/was present in one of Odysseus' songs to Calypso hehe
I love all these behind the scenes! Have you thought about releasing instrumental versions of Epic?
Wait, Circe's character is all about having power and control, pulling the strings, so her musical motif is literally pulls strings! 🤯
ETA: Hang on, I'm getting my staccato and pizzicato mixed up. But the puppets/strings bit still works.
What program are you using to make the music for epic? Also all these details are incredible❤
3 questions
Is this your first musical you've written?
How did you come up with the idea?
And are you planning on whiting anymore musicals?
Oh my god this is so damn cool!
Homie has a real life quirk and it’s called melody
can you tell us more about the next saga?
👇🏼Under 10 min squad
Its their theme music!
Is it already known when the next Part of the saga will be released?
That's so cool!!!