Imagine being a Dwarf Hammerer, Iron Drake, or even Longbeard, trained and fought for decades against almost every enemy in the world, and then you get crunched and tossed aside by a giant toad dragon in less than a minute.
Khargan is also giving +12 melee attack and 1.4 charge via Frenzied assault as well as stand or die and perfect vigor via a boon in the chieftain panel.
another thing that might be worth mentioning is that you can replace them with 0 recruit time with how nurgle works. you can kinda keepa doomstack in your pocket and deploy them on the frontlines whenever you might need one assuming you have the logistics set up.
Random content idea: doomstack tierlists (can sort by race and have one or two depending on what's available plus honourable mentions for those which have several). Can perhaps divide among lategame 'luxury' doomstacks, 'budget/economical/easy to recruit' doomstacks, and early game trash stacks. Enjoying the content as ever. Appreciate ya, Legend!
@@hai.nguyen995 Kinda ironic. The Lizardmen got plenty of DLCs and they were hardly ever great. The Dwarves got many reworks and none of them were ever great.
He's been the most fun Lord to play for me, other than dealing with his legendary heroes that constantly feud with each other and sometimes wound each other. That's a minor drawback though, they offer alot of uses in the campaign and in battles.
I think Nurgle is great for the sword of Khaine. Nurgle public order is very easy because it is possible to just build up public order building (max T3) everywhere and nurgle corruption also gives up to 10 public order.
I'm more impressed with a grudge-raker thunderers with this video than with toad dragons, because we've seen a lot of big monster stacks since WH2, but only one blunderbuss in chorf roster
Toad dragons, yes. Certainly effective. You ever seen woad dragons at work though? Those babies aren’t going anywhere even when the Mongols, Timurids, and Egyptians are rolling in from the East.
Honestly I've found the Rot Knights to perform much better than Toad Dragons in a lot of cases. They seem to take much less missile damage, and can deal out stupid amounts of damage when fully boosted
I had seen what this sort of optimization for Tamurkhan does; Cultist of Khorne recently did him. He could get a several hundred kills on charge, with his mass and unit size. He absolutely could do this alone.
While you will never encounter an *optimized* doomstack from the AI, they do sometimes pump them out due to unlucky (for the player) unit limitations in whatever province they decide to recruit from. That said, this would still destroy a Luthor Harkon Terrorgheist stack, Star Dragon spam, or Rite of Primeval Glory army just fine. It does seem the AI does not doomstack as much anymore, instead making more balanced stacks overall.
Hey legend I just wondered if the malice of the sword of kaine is nullified considering most of the time as nurgle you’ll be building the public order building in every minor settlement
They started receiving damage pretty quickly. I still think Dragon Ogres are a better doomstack based on the entity size and speed and extra missile resistance
These videos are a double edged sword sometimes I think, on the one hand I don’t think I would realized about the steam tank doomstack as quickly but on the other I don’t think CA knew either until the video. I only got to use it twice before the nerf hammer came down
I think, if you really don’t want to have every other rmds to be 10/10, I’d say critique difficultly to make/sustain more. Like the steam tank or this army, which are t4/t5, are way more difficult to put together. Getting the nemesis crown/sword of khaine together is also difficult. I think if you rate the stacks only on their ability to murder the majority are gonna be 10/10
I feel like Tamurkhan would be one of the best one man doomstacks without even thinking about the sword of lame. He's got a lot of healing and two mortis effects. He annihilates anything that isn't a single entity, and even they take dozens of damage a second just by being near him. The extra toads seem excessive honestly.
1 on 1 they'd probably lose to the shredder of lustria but to be fair... look at their idle animations, by far the cutest and goodest bois, they get a spot in my army regardless of effectiveness or difficulty
You can definitely feel how OP dwarfs became after the DLC Only one Gyro was able to deal more than 10K damage by using only a quarter of its ammo, that's ridiculous man I expect a massive balancing patch soon to nerf these OP shits that they put into the game on DLC release
It takes them forever to do that damage tho? Most missile units will get those kinds of damage numbers if they get to use all of their ammo. The only benefit gyrocopters have, they are probably one of the safest ranged units in the game.
I would replace khazyk and crazed with the 2 more toad dragons heck I think having all of the army to be a toad dragon would be much more beneficial but maybe I would keep 1 wizard in order to heal them
I think if you disband everything except the legendary lord this one man doom stack is better because i think the other one you are talking about doesn't have the sword of khaine
I’ll be honest. Seeing one man doomstacks now is pretty boring. We all know the setup at this point, we all know how strong single entity heroes/lords can become and AI simply not being good enough to deal with a single strong unit. So is that Tamurkhan one man doomstack really interesting or unique enough?
I don’t think that waiting for enemy reinforcements actually puts this doom stack to test, because you barely need to fight 40 enemy units at a time. Like, there would really be a situation like that and if charging in early is a good strategy - then just do it, there is no cheese in it. At the same time, waiting for reinforcements really makes better content with all that carnage.
put your game on a solid state drive instead of a hard disc drive it will hugely speed up load times. You shouldn't HAVE to since there are plenty of games without this issue or that are less affected by this issue but it is what it is
@@hooktraining3966 Pretty much most modern games nowadays even state that they require an SSD in the recommended settings. For the direct storage access thing. Also huge assets. If the game is 100gb+ you can bet your behind it's going to require an SSD.^ Also OP, I have a friend who does have an SSD but his load times are still garbo since he don't have enough ram/fast enough ram.
I personally think this should not get a 10/10, it's way too weak against air units for that, just a couple anti large gyrocopters in those armies could have done some serious damage.
Its honestly so strange how OP units get in Total War Warhammer. I play Medieval 2 and Empire and you just never get anything remotely this powerful. Even the best artillery or cavalry seems somewhat balanced. It seems like a lot of these doomstacks are completely unbalanced lol
Medieval where you can do this with a single cavalry unit as long as the opponent doesn't have equal tier cavalry? 2 cavalry units if the opponent has pikes or decent spearmen.
For most of those, it's super late game units, sometimes even with unit caps. By the time you get a fully operational doomstack, you've already basically won the game (with a few exceptions). It's essentially a vanity project.
What public order problems does Tamurkhan suffer from Sword of Khaine? Nurgle has some of the easiest public order to manage in the entire game, you need to deliberately play terribly to have poor public order even on Legendary.
Toad Howard's favourite doomstack
16 times the plague
4 times the size of soulgrinder
It just croaks.
Boris is gonna be so mad when he sees someone replaced him as the Toadbringer
lol
He is unbenching the kench, unloading the toad, permit the kermit, uninhibit the ribbit, and unbog thr frog.
Rodin the Lybian Amphibian, the Foul Bowel, the Gizard Lizard, the stanky cranky drakey, the mean green belchin machine.
Tahm Kench legendary hero when 😂
FUCKING CORE MEMORY, loved those story time videos
SHOTGUN KNEEEES
You're out of control
Whoa, kermit hit the gym
If the gym sold mcnuggets
It ain't easy bein green, man
Kermit needs to hit the shower 😂
Imagine being a Dwarf Hammerer, Iron Drake, or even Longbeard, trained and fought for decades against almost every enemy in the world, and then you get crunched and tossed aside by a giant toad dragon in less than a minute.
Train all of your life for the one moment that matters
Khargan is also giving +12 melee attack and 1.4 charge via Frenzied assault as well as stand or die and perfect vigor via a boon in the chieftain panel.
another thing that might be worth mentioning is that you can replace them with 0 recruit time with how nurgle works. you can kinda keepa doomstack in your pocket and deploy them on the frontlines whenever you might need one assuming you have the logistics set up.
Toad dragons
true
Doad Tragons
Kröten Drachen
Toad Dragons
toad dragons
-Legend trying to talk in campaign map-
Dwarves: HUAGH HUUAAAH HUUGHH *ANGRY DWARF NOISES*
The Dwarfs screaming finally got to him at the end lol
Legend of Toadal War
Random content idea: doomstack tierlists (can sort by race and have one or two depending on what's available plus honourable mentions for those which have several). Can perhaps divide among lategame 'luxury' doomstacks, 'budget/economical/easy to recruit' doomstacks, and early game trash stacks. Enjoying the content as ever.
Appreciate ya, Legend!
well that's just a unit tier list compilation of the units he put in the S tier (or maybe A tier for the early game trash stacks)
"Their turning rate isn't that great"
Recent patch: Turn Speed: 60 -> 90
Well, that's good news!
I never get tired of your videos after so many years, thanks man
You could have puked on the Gyrocopters with all Toads. They don’t hit much on air units and the distance can’t be too great but it’s still fun.
Dread Saurians could never.
(Seriously, CA what the hell is going on with the lizardmen???)
All according to the great plan.
Like srsly they have 3 DLCs and they lost everytime.
@@hai.nguyen995 Kinda ironic.
The Lizardmen got plenty of DLCs and they were hardly ever great.
The Dwarves got many reworks and none of them were ever great.
@@hai.nguyen995they will get buffed hard with the next dlc, same for Norsca
i doubt that lizardmen will get another dlc, afaik there aren`t any units left to add to the game
@@ashesofaranea they can just buff and rework what's already there.
Public control with thamurkhan is so good you don"t need to worry about sword of khaine
Yeah.
Because papa nurgle is the best, nurgle factions dont get much public order problems.
He's been the most fun Lord to play for me, other than dealing with his legendary heroes that constantly feud with each other and sometimes wound each other. That's a minor drawback though, they offer alot of uses in the campaign and in battles.
I think Nurgle is great for the sword of Khaine. Nurgle public order is very easy because it is possible to just build up public order building (max T3) everywhere and nurgle corruption also gives up to 10 public order.
Legend's accent strikes again with Toe Dragons :D
I LOVE Toad Dragons 🐸🐲 10:30 holy shit that's a massive amount of healing
Leegnd: **explaining**
Dwarves: **HOOAH!**
I'm more impressed with a grudge-raker thunderers with this video than with toad dragons, because we've seen a lot of big monster stacks since WH2, but only one blunderbuss in chorf roster
Iron Hail Gunners from Cathay
The Toady One Doomstack.
Missed opportunity to name the lord and heroes Urist.
Toad dragons, yes. Certainly effective. You ever seen woad dragons at work though? Those babies aren’t going anywhere even when the Mongols, Timurids, and Egyptians are rolling in from the East.
But why would you need to tow a dragon?
22k health on Tamhurkhan is such a beautiful sight ♥_♥
The new hotfix is out for grudges. And you ain't reckoning about it. A grudge in the book indeed. You @LegendofTotalWar Short!!
My lord that battle deployment screen has the gamma blasting.
The crazed gives 12 attack and 40 or 50 % charge bonus to those nearby
This was the next legendary Grudge for the Book
Legend of Toadal War here
Honestly I've found the Rot Knights to perform much better than Toad Dragons in a lot of cases. They seem to take much less missile damage, and can deal out stupid amounts of damage when fully boosted
I had seen what this sort of optimization for Tamurkhan does; Cultist of Khorne recently did him. He could get a several hundred kills on charge, with his mass and unit size. He absolutely could do this alone.
While you will never encounter an *optimized* doomstack from the AI, they do sometimes pump them out due to unlucky (for the player) unit limitations in whatever province they decide to recruit from. That said, this would still destroy a Luthor Harkon Terrorgheist stack, Star Dragon spam, or Rite of Primeval Glory army just fine.
It does seem the AI does not doomstack as much anymore, instead making more balanced stacks overall.
9:33 *Lore of The Great Maw cries in the corner*
Toad dragon animations are amazing and disgusting
they're big guys
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Control building gives you infections, and Nurgle does not have a lot of buildings that are needed. Sword of Khaine is not an issue for them.
Man, what an opportunity. Miss to title the video legend of toad dragons
Hey legend I just wondered if the malice of the sword of kaine is nullified considering most of the time as nurgle you’ll be building the public order building in every minor settlement
They started receiving damage pretty quickly. I still think Dragon Ogres are a better doomstack based on the entity size and speed and extra missile resistance
I like this, I think I'll try it next campaign
These videos are a double edged sword sometimes I think, on the one hand I don’t think I would realized about the steam tank doomstack as quickly but on the other I don’t think CA knew either until the video. I only got to use it twice before the nerf hammer came down
The new Toadbringer, I mean Toddbringer
I think, if you really don’t want to have every other rmds to be 10/10, I’d say critique difficultly to make/sustain more. Like the steam tank or this army, which are t4/t5, are way more difficult to put together. Getting the nemesis crown/sword of khaine together is also difficult. I think if you rate the stacks only on their ability to murder the majority are gonna be 10/10
I like their movement. "Wiggle wiggle wiggle"
Dem hips don't lie!
I feel like Tamurkhan would be one of the best one man doomstacks without even thinking about the sword of lame. He's got a lot of healing and two mortis effects. He annihilates anything that isn't a single entity, and even they take dozens of damage a second just by being near him. The extra toads seem excessive honestly.
Is that Cultist of Khornes Tamurkhan 1man doomstack in your inbox?
✌️
Keep having fun Legend.
finally somethnig that beats thunderbarges
Imagine toad dragons - Everyone wants to be my enemy
I wonder if giant slayers would be a tougher fight
LegendofToadalWar here
And today we've got
Couldn't the breath attack of the Toad Dragons used against the Gyrokopters?
I do like my towed dragons
i was so excited for this one
Now that they fixed Dwarves , when will we see a malakai campaign?
Spreading nurgles love
22:22 Though, Doomstack vs Doomstack could make for some interesting content.
Should have released this video today Legend, and title it "Wednesday my Dudes!"
1 on 1 they'd probably lose to the shredder of lustria but to be fair... look at their idle animations, by far the cutest and goodest bois, they get a spot in my army regardless of effectiveness or difficulty
I’ll park the Bugatti in the garage so you can watch the Ferraris perform . 👊🏻
Would it be better, if it was in confederated Festus army, but same faction for heroes? Increased battle healing cap would be huge, imho.
The lizardmens giant unit doesnt even move that fast
You can definitely feel how OP dwarfs became after the DLC
Only one Gyro was able to deal more than 10K damage by using only a quarter of its ammo, that's ridiculous man
I expect a massive balancing patch soon to nerf these OP shits that they put into the game on DLC release
Gyrocopters were always like this. Their unit numbers are higher but they get damage nerf. I think their overall dps is still same.
It takes them forever to do that damage tho? Most missile units will get those kinds of damage numbers if they get to use all of their ammo. The only benefit gyrocopters have, they are probably one of the safest ranged units in the game.
Hey Legend would it be possible to mark your old guides whether or not the given guide is still relevent?
Totally missed the chance to put toadlewarhammer 3
Yeah, toadally.
Could've breath attacked the Gyrobombers no? At least then it would have a use other than shooting at groundwork.
This would get stomped by the thunder barge
Nah, kill the one ground unit and then they have to land, they will then get rocked in melee
Which howlign warp gale set up for a skaven nuke is most effective v a doomstack?
I would replace khazyk and crazed with the 2 more toad dragons heck I think having all of the army to be a toad dragon would be much more beneficial but maybe I would keep 1 wizard in order to heal them
Could have a healer lord. I do agree that the speed increases are pretty good, but I'm not sure if that is actually unique to Tamurkhan.
I love Toe Draggins
to be fair, Toad Dragons are anti infantry and those are dwarfs so auto resolve is gonna favor them a lot
Good god sword of kayn plus nemesis crown on a doomstack is fucking insane.
I think if you disband everything except the legendary lord this one man doom stack is better because i think the other one you are talking about doesn't have the sword of khaine
I’ll be honest. Seeing one man doomstacks now is pretty boring. We all know the setup at this point, we all know how strong single entity heroes/lords can become and AI simply not being good enough to deal with a single strong unit. So is that Tamurkhan one man doomstack really interesting or unique enough?
07:10
Plaguebearer summon is not unique to Tamurkhan, thats from tech tree
Game: 0 deaths and ended the battle with one unit under 10k health - Close victory
missed opportunity to start the video with Legend of TOADal War here
9:50 - don't get High, get a Life. Words to live by
Missed opportunity to post this Wednesday
I don’t think that waiting for enemy reinforcements actually puts this doom stack to test, because you barely need to fight 40 enemy units at a time. Like, there would really be a situation like that and if charging in early is a good strategy - then just do it, there is no cheese in it.
At the same time, waiting for reinforcements really makes better content with all that carnage.
dorf hotfix for the grudge system today. malakai stream !!!
Kroak would be disgusted
Basically toad dragons
Nah, tamurkhan can handle almost everything by himself with sok and crown lol. He is stupidly strong in that case
What computer do I need to run this game, my current one takes like 10 minutes between battles to load.
You need a ssd
put your game on a solid state drive instead of a hard disc drive it will hugely speed up load times. You shouldn't HAVE to since there are plenty of games without this issue or that are less affected by this issue but it is what it is
@@hooktraining3966 Pretty much most modern games nowadays even state that they require an SSD in the recommended settings. For the direct storage access thing. Also huge assets. If the game is 100gb+ you can bet your behind it's going to require an SSD.^
Also OP, I have a friend who does have an SSD but his load times are still garbo since he don't have enough ram/fast enough ram.
I personally think this should not get a 10/10, it's way too weak against air units for that, just a couple anti large gyrocopters in those armies could have done some serious damage.
Froggies
mega fruuugz!
Lmao, just look at the size difference on the main battle screen
"Close Victory" mmm sure
Its honestly so strange how OP units get in Total War Warhammer. I play Medieval 2 and Empire and you just never get anything remotely this powerful. Even the best artillery or cavalry seems somewhat balanced. It seems like a lot of these doomstacks are completely unbalanced lol
Medieval where you can do this with a single cavalry unit as long as the opponent doesn't have equal tier cavalry? 2 cavalry units if the opponent has pikes or decent spearmen.
For most of those, it's super late game units, sometimes even with unit caps. By the time you get a fully operational doomstack, you've already basically won the game (with a few exceptions). It's essentially a vanity project.
I've tried a plague ogre doomstack btw and it was pretty good! Hope someone sends one in (I dont have an endgame crisis enabled unfortunetly)
How about prince alarming
By signal imagine the stink of that battlefield
Okoi is that you?
0 losses
Almost no damage
CA: bit close wusnit
🎉🎉🎉
Autoresolve thinks that no air attacking units can kill a thunderbarge. So lame.
Toad Dragons
Hey legend do an eastern roman rebels campaign in rtw barbarian invasion
What public order problems does Tamurkhan suffer from Sword of Khaine? Nurgle has some of the easiest public order to manage in the entire game, you need to deliberately play terribly to have poor public order even on Legendary.