@@tarango759 I mean he kinda does it to himself a lot. Tells us that their whole comp counters him, and then when a teammate says the same thing he starts arguments saying they don't lol
@@MarsMews yeah I agree and I know that the main source of value of a ton of dive heroes is taking attention and time and abilities. Just saying he creates a lot of toxic situations with his teammates by keeping humility out of team chat. Even though his teammates are correct and he knows it he just starts shit for no reason
It low key is tho for all the reasons he mentioned. You’re invincible while ulting, you heal, get cooldowns back faster, free empowered punch PLUS all the overhealth generated from hitting people and it literally can’t be canceled bc it’s frame 1 escape option. It’s just very feast or famine
@@brycenb2994it’s not bad, but not even close to broken, it’s mostly just a survivability tool that lets you disengage and reengage, nothing like plenty of other ults that just can carry fights all on their own very easily like a cage or whole hog just by melting the enemy tank
@@GetQuakedOnyou play doom in every game in every match no matter your comp. And playing all dive, all poke, etc is never necessary nor is it the most efficient way to build a lineup
@@JayFox128it's not the most efficient but if they clearly see their team diving and it's working, how're you gonna complain when YOU are the problem and why your team is struggling more than they should be
I thought Doom was completely unviable. I practiced in QP until I figured out how to properly use his techs and strategy. My third game in comp we were doing very well and when we swapped to defense one of my DPS refused to continue playing until I swapped because he said he was carrying. When he said this He had about 20 kills and I had 18. The game ended after he stopped playing and I had 37-6
It annoys me when I pick a tank hero and the other team has a few counters to that hero, and my team flames me for staying on that character. Why is it always the tanks that have to switch? A few good dps and support hero switches can negate the counters and improve the team comp. Especially the stubborn supports who refuse to accommodate the rest of the team.
even if u carry as doom, it's always the support or dps who happens to be performing the worst in the game and is the one asking you to switch, like with what right you ask me to switch lmfao, they always saying shit like, "No space, we can't walk, no tank gg", and when you watch the replay, it was them who were dying because of their own mistakes
The reason is because tank is extremely important to the team, theres only one tank and its the strongest hero on the field. If you get hard counter swapped, your teammates swapping doesnt just cancel it out. Youre still going to get perma hacked by that sombra. This is coming from a tank main.
@@loganbivins2438 the whole team swapping to accommodate a good comp is way more impactful than some tank counters. A tank can realistically outplay the counters, and a good team comp can back them up
There’s no way their bap was tryna say doom ult is busted. It does a solid 15 dmg if you are an inch outside of the middle circle and if you miss empowered punch you’re probably gonna be in a bad position. It’s a utility ult that scales with skill
The thing that kills me the most is he’s playing mother fucking bap….. he has no right speaking about broken stuff when his character is all roles in one💀
@@mohammadalhusaini810 god immortal field is so annoying as doom even if I can punch them out, my attacks already do bad damage, why negate my chances at kills 😔
But It low key IS broken tho and for all the reasons he mentioned. You’re invincible while ulting, you heal, get cooldowns back faster, free empowered punch PLUS all the overhealth generated from hitting people and it literally can’t be canceled bc it’s frame 1 escape option. It’s just very feast or famine They also buffed it so the minimum damage it can do is 50. Not 15. And saying “oh but you can miss your punch tho” is so random. 😂
@@brycenb2994 yeah and your a literal sitting duck while you land susceptible to sleep, hook, hack, flashbang, rock, javelin and enemy doom punch but yeah very broken am i right??
Telling them to play another character is the same argument that they were making, only difference is you didn’t complain and blame others lol. Respect
Sombra is the only character that keeps me from becoming a doom one trick because i value my sanity…..genuinely baffles me how they see this character’s gameplay and say “yeah thats fun and balanced” at least you can play around hog and orisa
Eh, I don't really think Doom can play around Hog. If you leave him alone to focus on backline, then he kills your team since his oneshot is so easy and consistent. If you face him directly you die because of your pitiful health and hook going right through block.
@@tau-5794Actually is very doable to play against Hog, just be aggro when he has no hook and stay out of LOS when he has it and try to punch him whenever he hooks a teammate.
@eauscriptos I think it's map dependant (unless you're a doom god like quaked), it's super easy to play around hog on Watchpoint Gibraltar, not so much on like, Rialto or something Sometimes tho, people will swap just to counter you, even though they're not good at the characters. Consistent Counter swappers never fully master 1 champ, and it's obvious
such a satisfying feeling of when someone tells u to switch off doom, u dont and proceed to shit on the whole enemy team the whole game, and then all the of sudden the people who told u to switch are all quiet LMAO
Imagine bringing stagnant supports to heal a dive comp, and then blame the tank for not surviving. "Yeah why should we adjust to the team comp, the tank should change" Classic Overwatch 2 experience.
The problem is, dive is meta but no one plays dive. They've been groomed to play poke Even fucking sombra, the soft anti-dive dps who can sort of dive, is rewarded for poking.
The entire glide over the wall at the end, was sickkkkkk! Never seen you before, but I'm glad this was recommended! Only thought zbra was a doom main, but I'm glad to see another! Looking forward to seeing more of you bro
bro your doom is so smooth. Like I am learning out doom and my doom looks like spazzing out. Yours is so so clean. Like there are some things that you do with doom that I didn't even know one can do.
I've gotten a good doom like 5 times in the entirety of me playing ow2. Most are mid or awful. Whenever I have a good one I remember it because we roll the other team.
I play doom a lot and I was curious. How are you cancelling the slam ability without activating other cooldowns? Is that a feature that I just never knew about?? Do I tap the slam again?? Or is it just left clicking??
Seems like dooms mobility is akin to TFC bunny hoping. It shouldn’t be removed but top speed could be limited? His primary fire is a slow shot gun like burst fire, but it can land “head shots” at quite the distance, should that be nerfed?
I had several talks on my channel about swapping, it's just baffling. Whenever you ask people how they know that switching is important, they just can't tell you. It's all from feelings, habit, and social brainwashing. They "just know". "Nothing else is possible". The same answers a cult member would give.
being a top doom player is one thing but a lot of doomfist mains end up swapping towards the end of the match after getting countered and not adjusting their play style
This reminds me of playing Monkey into a Reaper or Bastion. Those only counter BAD monkeys. If you're running Monkey on a dive map, Reaper does NOT counter AT ALL Like, all you do is just jump away
Maybe not in damage but it does do 50 minimum and gives your punch and slam back and 300hp so you can slam punch block punch ult punch block punch slam out
So many players think characters existing is the same as being countered. Countering is as much about out playing the opponent as it is choosing the right heroes. Especially in low ranks.
quake would u share how u practice ur follow-up aim after punch to be so good? i think it became so important now for doom player gaining value after the rework in ow2, its so heartbroken that most of the tech that we hv studied so hard had become not efficient anymore='( ...
No way your tracer is the one saying “we have no tank” like bro is dead first EVERY fight without fail. Like a team fight will just NOT be goin on and your tracer dies to cass. Pretty unfortunate to be blamed by someone who’s tilted by their own play, but you absolutely farmed the enemy team. Nice 1v9 dawg
i hate how healers blame tank when they literally have the most POWERFUL role in the game. and dont know when to switch up their character to work better for the team
@@ElizabethSalva-zr8hz what? have you ever played support? they require game sense, knowing when to dps and when to heal, and also have to know when to use their saving abilities like baps field or kiri’s cleanse. supps like ana or mercy are supposed to watch for flankers while also keeping their team up, and supps like brig have to know when to take a fight and when not to.
Eh the supports were relatively quiet in this vid but yes the ones especially in the metal ranks has little to no gamesense on comps and synergy. I groan in agony anytime there's examples like: an illari when my team is running majority dive/brawl or me picking illari for our poke comp and my other support picks mercy in my games. Dps are guilty of this too obviously but their impact on imbalanced synergy is neglible compared to a support
The sole reason i learned doom was to be free of enemy dps and supps swapping to ruin my best heroes. "Whatever the meta is doom players make it work" that's the way i thought and i still do.
The best counter I find to doom is zen. I gotta say when you go against an experienced doom you just know they won’t die easy they just keep surviving 😂😂😂
The only reason your playstyle works is because you posture lile a threat even when you arent charged. And in thay case doom is rather useless. So essentially you pop off because of an incorrect threat analysis from the enemy mixed with a desire to kill you because of ego
As a ball main, I totally feel it when you explained that team needs to play dive support. But try explaining that to these braindead supports that wanna blame tank yet do absolutely nothing to facilitate their tank. Like they expect us to win a race with 4 flat tires??😂
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Quake is in a constant state of mogging on both the enemy team and his own team, bro literally 1v9s
he’s a one trick pony so he’s still scum of the earth that ruins the game
tank life
@@tarango759 I mean he kinda does it to himself a lot. Tells us that their whole comp counters him, and then when a teammate says the same thing he starts arguments saying they don't lol
@@jberts1023while it does, doom can bait majority of the cooldowns that counter him which also gives his team a resource advantage.
@@MarsMews yeah I agree and I know that the main source of value of a ton of dive heroes is taking attention and time and abilities. Just saying he creates a lot of toxic situations with his teammates by keeping humility out of team chat. Even though his teammates are correct and he knows it he just starts shit for no reason
No way someone unironically said "doom ult lowkey broken"
Yeah that was crazy lmao
guy must be baiting
@@ghoulbuster1 fr bro plays baptiste w immortality as an ability and complains about an ultimate lmfao
It low key is tho for all the reasons he mentioned. You’re invincible while ulting, you heal, get cooldowns back faster, free empowered punch PLUS all the overhealth generated from hitting people and it literally can’t be canceled bc it’s frame 1 escape option.
It’s just very feast or famine
@@brycenb2994it’s not bad, but not even close to broken, it’s mostly just a survivability tool that lets you disengage and reengage, nothing like plenty of other ults that just can carry fights all on their own very easily like a cage or whole hog just by melting the enemy tank
DOOMFIST'S REAL COUNTERS:
1. Bugs
2. Map Geometry
3. Team comp
4. Enemy comp
"In that order" - Get-Selfcountered-On
"Tank just swap"
Me watching the 4 other roles not swap:
Why swap 4 when 1 would do the same thing?
most of the time when someone tells me to swap off doom is usually the player playing the wrong hero with our comp / into the enemy comp.
@@Muskotronbecause that 1 is having a way more value than the other 4
@@GetQuakedOnyou play doom in every game in every match no matter your comp. And playing all dive, all poke, etc is never necessary nor is it the most efficient way to build a lineup
@@JayFox128it's not the most efficient but if they clearly see their team diving and it's working, how're you gonna complain when YOU are the problem and why your team is struggling more than they should be
Imagine telling quake to get off doom
That just showcases the arrogance of the average Ow2 Player.
@@KrowleyPineapples777 ye but when you can back it up like he does nobody has any issues with it unlike the average genji player
You arent a Doom main if youve not only experienced this...but also proved them wrong.
Gotta prove em wrong
😤 you already know!
happens to ball mains as well.
Well, there are doom mains that go 0 and 5 because they keep dying in the first 10 seconds of any engagement.
I thought Doom was completely unviable. I practiced in QP until I figured out how to properly use his techs and strategy. My third game in comp we were doing very well and when we swapped to defense one of my DPS refused to continue playing until I swapped because he said he was carrying. When he said this He had about 20 kills and I had 18. The game ended after he stopped playing and I had 37-6
GetOiledUppedOn
GetOiledUpOn
It annoys me when I pick a tank hero and the other team has a few counters to that hero, and my team flames me for staying on that character. Why is it always the tanks that have to switch? A few good dps and support hero switches can negate the counters and improve the team comp. Especially the stubborn supports who refuse to accommodate the rest of the team.
Right? People always expect the tank to play around them when the rest of the team can try picking a comp that compliments the tank pick as well.
even if u carry as doom, it's always the support or dps who happens to be performing the worst in the game and is the one asking you to switch, like with what right you ask me to switch lmfao, they always saying shit like, "No space, we can't walk, no tank gg", and when you watch the replay, it was them who were dying because of their own mistakes
The reason is because tank is extremely important to the team, theres only one tank and its the strongest hero on the field. If you get hard counter swapped, your teammates swapping doesnt just cancel it out. Youre still going to get perma hacked by that sombra. This is coming from a tank main.
@@loganbivins2438 the whole team swapping to accommodate a good comp is way more impactful than some tank counters. A tank can realistically outplay the counters, and a good team comp can back them up
@@loganbivins2438 Did you watch this video dude? It invalidates your argument.
There’s no way their bap was tryna say doom ult is busted. It does a solid 15 dmg if you are an inch outside of the middle circle and if you miss empowered punch you’re probably gonna be in a bad position. It’s a utility ult that scales with skill
The inner circle has about the same radius as the level of honour of a sombra player as well making it even worse
The thing that kills me the most is he’s playing mother fucking bap….. he has no right speaking about broken stuff when his character is all roles in one💀
@@mohammadalhusaini810 god immortal field is so annoying as doom even if I can punch them out, my attacks already do bad damage, why negate my chances at kills 😔
But It low key IS broken tho and for all the reasons he mentioned. You’re invincible while ulting, you heal, get cooldowns back faster, free empowered punch PLUS all the overhealth generated from hitting people and it literally can’t be canceled bc it’s frame 1 escape option.
It’s just very feast or famine
They also buffed it so the minimum damage it can do is 50. Not 15. And saying “oh but you can miss your punch tho” is so random. 😂
@@brycenb2994 yeah and your a literal sitting duck while you land susceptible to sleep, hook, hack, flashbang, rock, javelin and enemy doom punch but yeah very broken am i right??
Imagine telling a top 3 doom player to get off their best character
Telling them to play another character is the same argument that they were making, only difference is you didn’t complain and blame others lol. Respect
theres already 3 chars playing dive vs not, so its different in that aspect too
Hog - Sombra is the most obnoxious anti-doom combo in the game, fml I see it all the time
Sombra is the only character that keeps me from becoming a doom one trick because i value my sanity…..genuinely baffles me how they see this character’s gameplay and say “yeah thats fun and balanced” at least you can play around hog and orisa
Eh, I don't really think Doom can play around Hog. If you leave him alone to focus on backline, then he kills your team since his oneshot is so easy and consistent. If you face him directly you die because of your pitiful health and hook going right through block.
@@tau-5794Actually is very doable to play against Hog, just be aggro when he has no hook and stay out of LOS when he has it and try to punch him whenever he hooks a teammate.
@@mohammadalhusaini810 I usually play Sombra whenever I queue for DPS 🌚 fellow Doom players should not waste their cooldowns~
@eauscriptos I think it's map dependant (unless you're a doom god like quaked), it's super easy to play around hog on Watchpoint Gibraltar, not so much on like, Rialto or something
Sometimes tho, people will swap just to counter you, even though they're not good at the characters. Consistent Counter swappers never fully master 1 champ, and it's obvious
"i take it back btw" - good man. respect.
telling quake to swap to something like sigma is like caging a wild animal
“We have no tank ):” saying that while your 1v4ing the enemy and your team can’t kill a diving Winston by themselves
such a satisfying feeling of when someone tells u to switch off doom, u dont and proceed to shit on the whole enemy team the whole game, and then all the of sudden the people who told u to switch are all quiet LMAO
love how that kid said ''we have no tank :/'' then after you won he said you're cracked lmao
Theres no feeling better than….bumping music and carrying your team with Doom. IYKYK👊🏾
My team:
"We don't have a tank"
Their team:
"Your tank carries you"
Average doom EXP lool
quake when he's a large body of water: getlakedon (LOL)
5:14 that hook dodge was aura
From "we have no tank" to "doom op"
GetPeepeepoopoodOn
Imagine bringing stagnant supports to heal a dive comp, and then blame the tank for not surviving.
"Yeah why should we adjust to the team comp, the tank should change"
Classic Overwatch 2 experience.
When you feel like a failure, remember that there were people who asked Getquakedon to swap Doomfist.
The problem is, dive is meta but no one plays dive. They've been groomed to play poke
Even fucking sombra, the soft anti-dive dps who can sort of dive, is rewarded for poking.
The entire glide over the wall at the end, was sickkkkkk!
Never seen you before, but I'm glad this was recommended!
Only thought zbra was a doom main, but I'm glad to see another!
Looking forward to seeing more of you bro
6:24 Bap player says that 💀💀💀
1:25 We have no tank? but the healing is absolute dog water(899) ☠️ and the dps pushing (897)☠️
"Doomfist has no counters"
Sombra: "Hold my beer"
With a competent healer and a soldier76 that can shoot that’s a counter
Sometimes i get flamed playing into ONE counter.
When you pacing around the spawn room mindlessly yk it's been one of those games
bro your doom is so smooth. Like I am learning out doom and my doom looks like spazzing out. Yours is so so clean. Like there are some things that you do with doom that I didn't even know one can do.
Everytime i watch a Quake video I'm reminded of how much I love doom
“the only one that can defeat me is myself” kinda quotes go hard
getjizzedon always carrying, such a inspirint person
Brig during the second round went crazy as well
LITERALLY the tracer always gets picked by the cas at the beginning of EVERY fight 😂
Dive comp is nuts, i rly enjoy it by watching on it 😮
Why cant i get these kind of dooms in my game 😭 the only ones i get are the one that jumps right in middle of team while everyone is across map
I've gotten a good doom like 5 times in the entirety of me playing ow2. Most are mid or awful. Whenever I have a good one I remember it because we roll the other team.
GetNumbanidOn
Bro landing on Cassidy then slamming away blocking only to empower punch him into the wall is genius.
getting flamed by team mates in voice is always a good sign. I get scared when we are losing and my team says nothing.
I play doom a lot and I was curious. How are you cancelling the slam ability without activating other cooldowns? Is that a feature that I just never knew about?? Do I tap the slam again?? Or is it just left clicking??
You hit the button again
1:36 😂😂😂
This guy is an inspiration
Illari Brig is not a support combo I want on my team
I’m a doom main and some guy called me dontgetquakedon
that thumbnail has me crying😭
Is venture a good dive character? I play doom and venture because honestly i love dive
this whole video has me LOL🤣🤣
Bro was listening to polo, von, and tee ofc he’s popping off
That cass spawn swap so good lol
Would old mei be a doom fist counter or would the freeze on you take too long to activate.
They switched and you instantly won
Just remember counterswappers are flat earthers
Seems like dooms mobility is akin to TFC bunny hoping. It shouldn’t be removed but top speed could be limited? His primary fire is a slow shot gun like burst fire, but it can land “head shots” at quite the distance, should that be nerfed?
I had several talks on my channel about swapping, it's just baffling. Whenever you ask people how they know that switching is important, they just can't tell you. It's all from feelings, habit, and social brainwashing. They "just know". "Nothing else is possible". The same answers a cult member would give.
Ngl I hate getting a full dive team and then the last support always locks in illari
I’ve been subbed for a while and seeing him listen to king Von made me respect him a Little more 😂
classic supports, blame the Tank, and demand them to swap while they themselves don't swap
Don't forget the final steps, get carried anyway and be all "thanks daddy" at the end
always a good time when the sombra switches to pharah lmao
Dude said doom ult is broken 🤣🤣🤣
Enemy team really thought going mercy bap against dive was a good idea smh
when Dr.Doom comes to Rivals you need to make a montage bro it would be peak.
being a top doom player is one thing but a lot of doomfist mains end up swapping towards the end of the match after getting countered and not adjusting their play style
This reminds me of playing Monkey into a Reaper or Bastion. Those only counter BAD monkeys. If you're running Monkey on a dive map, Reaper does NOT counter AT ALL
Like, all you do is just jump away
When my team asking to switch Doom I'm starting to carry them right into the bronze elo
I needed this today
6:22 “doom ult lowkey broken” dumbest shit I’ve heard in my life lmao
Maybe not in damage but it does do 50 minimum and gives your punch and slam back and 300hp so you can slam punch block punch ult punch block punch slam out
So many players think characters existing is the same as being countered. Countering is as much about out playing the opponent as it is choosing the right heroes. Especially in low ranks.
quake would u share how u practice ur follow-up aim after punch to be so good? i think it became so important now for doom player gaining value after the rework in ow2, its so heartbroken that most of the tech that we hv studied so hard had become not efficient anymore='( ...
bros complaining about doom ult i must be in the fucking twilight zone
Mf doom doom skin would go so hard
No way your tracer is the one saying “we have no tank” like bro is dead first EVERY fight without fail. Like a team fight will just NOT be goin on and your tracer dies to cass. Pretty unfortunate to be blamed by someone who’s tilted by their own play, but you absolutely farmed the enemy team. Nice 1v9 dawg
In conclusion. Widow needs nerfs
Genji*
Grass, grass is Quake’s counter
"I mean you can out-skill em"
Dude clearly didn't know who you are and what you can do. 😂
I wonder how strong doom would be if all his bugs were fixed tomorrow lol
i hate how healers blame tank when they literally have the most POWERFUL role in the game. and dont know when to switch up their character to work better for the team
??? why bring supps into this, it was his tracer that started shit by saying they had no tank
@@aster2because support players whine the most while having no skill to play lul
@@ElizabethSalva-zr8hz what? have you ever played support? they require game sense, knowing when to dps and when to heal, and also have to know when to use their saving abilities like baps field or kiri’s cleanse. supps like ana or mercy are supposed to watch for flankers while also keeping their team up, and supps like brig have to know when to take a fight and when not to.
Eh the supports were relatively quiet in this vid but yes the ones especially in the metal ranks has little to no gamesense on comps and synergy.
I groan in agony anytime there's examples like: an illari when my team is running majority dive/brawl or me picking illari for our poke comp and my other support picks mercy in my games.
Dps are guilty of this too obviously but their impact on imbalanced synergy is neglible compared to a support
1:38 lmaooo
The sole reason i learned doom was to be free of enemy dps and supps swapping to ruin my best heroes. "Whatever the meta is doom players make it work" that's the way i thought and i still do.
is your skin icon in the bottom left edited? if not what is that skin
MFDOOM skin
Literally my match last night. I died twice cuz I was trolling a bit, and team typed no tank :/
31-9 after and won 🗿✊️
Am I being stalked by the government or something the day after I install overwatch I suddenly see like 5 overwatch vids on my main page
I hate have a doomfist tank. They will be like across the map cosplaying sombra while we are getting ran down by orisa or Ava 😅
The best counter I find to doom is zen. I gotta say when you go against an experienced doom you just know they won’t die easy they just keep surviving 😂😂😂
40 - 4 is crazy
its always supports too like why go ilarrri and brig youre basically throwing
is this The Mclovin
If you are good enough on the character you play counters matter less if you can just afept to them
Is Quake using empowered punch now?
I hate when people tell others to switch its crazy. You're one of the best doomfist players in the world and they want you to swap.
GetCarriedOn
how many doom bugs are there? and what are they ?
They gotta buff Doom and Ball tbh I never see people play them
Support players forget that they are supposed to enable their team not the other way around
The only reason your playstyle works is because you posture lile a threat even when you arent charged. And in thay case doom is rather useless. So essentially you pop off because of an incorrect threat analysis from the enemy mixed with a desire to kill you because of ego
As a ball main, I totally feel it when you explained that team needs to play dive support. But try explaining that to these braindead supports that wanna blame tank yet do absolutely nothing to facilitate their tank. Like they expect us to win a race with 4 flat tires??😂
I'm a Zbra watcher. I'm now a quake watcher too!