I followed that guy’s advice, when he first posted, on my new raw denim. Wow! My jeans look amazing. I’m not really in to the high-contrast fades, so this works for me.
The guys at Resolute tumble dry their jeans all the time and they get amazing fades. I occasionally tumble dry my jeans as well and have never had any problems.
i had similar experience with Levi Made and Crafted raw unsanforized 511 jeans. Soaking and line drying did nothing. I bought size 33 because i wear same jeans in size 32. The dryer did the job, they shrunk 1 full size in waist and length shrunk from 34 inches to 32 inches. Some useful shrinkage in upper legs and seat of pants. I think dryer is your friend if the jeans are 1-2 inches too big. In terms of comfort and softness, no big change, just a bit better but no big deal. Overall, i will switch to the pre-shrunk denim now.
Levi’s 501’s are the “Chuck Taylors” of jeans. Not the best, not the most comfortable, but the most iconic of all jeans and the standard. It’s the perfect guinea-pig for these experiments.
I put a pair of Nudie Gritty Jackson in the washer at 40 degrees and then tumble dryer due to a massive weightloss and they were like 90s skate-big on me so I thought "eh, fuck it. Lets do it". Before that I hadnt washed them but that made the fade pop and they shrank down to a nice fit again, but instead of two roll-cuffs I now do one roll-cuff. Oh, and the jacron-patch disintegrated, but I never liked it anyways. :) (sorry for the bad english, not my native tongue).
When I first tried STFs I bought two pairs. The first I hot washed and hot dried before wearing and they fit fantastic afterwards. I tried the traditional hot soak and hang dry on the second pair and they were still so baggy I popped them into the washer on hot and dried them hot like the first ones. I didn't size up in the waist on either but I did go up one for the inseam with a 36.
Ya I had the same experience with STF .. I did the hot soak and hang dry , and they barley shrank .. maybe 3-5% .. but putting them in the dryer seems risky to me
@@micahweiss I've never had an issue doing it with the four pairs I've had. I wouldn't try it with real deal raw selvedge denim though. I stick to sanforized or one wash for those.
Growing up, we used to buy them big, and after washing, we always put them in the dryer. If you buy them big enough, and you're not interested in high contrast fades, I don't understand how you can ruin them.
Pro tip: after washing and tumble drying if you have the perfect fit but the waist size is unwearable, soak from the waist down to the pockets in cold water in the bath tub for about 15 minute then stretch them back out while hang drying them using a wooden peg or wooden coat hanger or something on the inside of the waist line to keep them stretched as far as they will go while they dry. Another option is to pull the waist band only up to your knees and then open them as wide as you can to stretch out the waistband while you watch an episode of TV. This should give you back an extra inch or two in the waist if you’ve over shrunk them. You can also throw a large bottle of hairspray or something in the pockets if you find the thighs are a little tight too.
My first pair of Nudies got washed and tumble dried by accident twice and it made them super soft and fit better. I prefer my unwashed Momotaro's tho tbh. Nice to have variety.
It is funny how people panic about possibly ruining jeans by machine washing and drying. They do fade differently. And the washing machine design can make a difference. Many people in the US have center agitator washing machines that strike the clothes to push them around the tub of soapy water. That can help soften the denim. And sometimes make some unusual fade spots (sometimes the denim gets twisted during agitatation). Tumble drying on low can minimize shrinking. Good to use the moisture sensor to prevent over drying if the dryer has that option. I washed my jeans for many years. As my mom did when I was a child. Because that is what everyone did. But much prefer wearing my raw unwashed sanforized jeans today. Or soaking my unsanforized jeans before wearing. I hate buying prewashed jeans. Always have. But somewhere in the 80s it became increasingly difficult to find any jeans that were not prewashed. It was great to me when raw denim took off mid 2000s and unwashed denim was more available to purchase. Along with all the amazing selvedge denims that started being woven. Unfortunately it probably made me more of a denim fanatic than before. 🙂
I ruined my 2 sanforized selves tumble dried, benzac and gustin bother straight with a slight tasper after dryer they shrunk two sizes .. turned them into skinny jeans
I did a shrinking process on a pair if brand new 501s STF from 2013 a week ago. The way I did it was to soak them for 30 minutes in 3L of water with around 0.5L of white vinegar heated to 70 degrees Celsius. After that I rinsed them in the shower, I put them on and went out to dry them while wearing them. Once dried, I put them in the washing machine with soft soap and then into a light tumble dry cycle in the drier. Results were awesome, I bought them true to size at the waist and about three inches long in the length. The waist didn't shrink more than 1 cm, while the length shrunk by about 3", giving me a perfect fit. After the hot water soak and the initial shrink they had shrunk about three inches in the length, the drier took care of the final inch to get it perfect. Happy with how it turned out.
I'm relatively new to the denim world, but I've got a pair of Cone Mills from both Brave Star and Gustin. My Levi's STF 501s still get the most wear, you just can't beat the fit. And they really do patina nicely even with machine washing as needed
So I just bought some Studio D’artisan raw denim jeans. So basically they should be fine to do the first wash via machine and dryer. I don’t have to be overly protective and soak them ?
Dryers… be careful there. That’s a bit unpredictable. But for the washing machine. You’re good. Just turn them inside out and not such a high spin cycle.
I would say that black selvedge shouldn’t go in the tumble dryer. I’ve learned the hard way that even inside out, they get crazy marbling and it’s pretty ugly
Recently bought a pair of STF 501's and they are significantly 'bluer' than these. These look like the Rigid indigo that my Levi's trucker jacket is, my STF's seem just a little more blue and less indigo. Weird.
Hey man, I am in Berlin from US will be in Europe for a while. Forgot my leather jacket in ahstupid packing move. Can you recommend to me a couple stores to try?
Just be careful with some denim. My new pair of Sugar Canes covered the inside of my dryer with denim after first wash and dry (was in a hurry to dry I think). Some acetone got it all off, but it was a little alarming at first.
you have a tumble dryer, that is a separate machine, that actually drys denim dry ? and you live in Germany ? I thought cooking clothes to death at 800 million degrees was an American thing, everyone else just blows air over wet clothes for hours and like hanging damp clothes on a line in the bathroom
i purchased a pair of PBJ Greencast jeans too large and threw them in the dryer on hot after a hot warm wash. It shrunk a little but i wound up purchasing a new pair in a smaller size anyway. the difference in the nep, color and character of the denim was night and day compared to the new greencast jeans. . i’ll never throw denim in the wash or dryer again.
I'm about to try this with a pair of momotaro 501s. The 32 size 701s were two inches too small for me so I returned them ($$ouch) for a pair of 33 size 201s which are two inches too large for me. Usually I fit a 32 (About 84cm waist) which matched the measurements at the store, so I don't know what's going on. What I do know is that I'm not paying $70 and waiting around for the delivery guy and paying duty a third time to return them again. I hope the legs twist like mad and they look really strange, the things only possible with unsanforized but dialled up to 11 due to being a horrible evil man who washes them wrong. Mahaha. update: It worked perfectly, they shrunk an inch or so. This was a hot one hour presoak in the tub followed by a hot/cold cycle in the washer followed by a hot tumble in the drier, repeatedly until no need to hang dry remained. I broke all the rules. The legs got more twisty. I love the look. In fact, I loved it so much I tossed it back in for a second run with two more pairs that had slightly loosened in the waist. Both fit perfectly without a belt again and have more leg twist. No colour fading, texture's fine, though obviously less crisp and I lost a bit of the hair on a nice fuzzy 22oz pair. I can see why people stress when the average pair is nearly $500. I'm a bit mad to risk $1200 and a year of wear like that, but I'm glad I did. We really do worry too much about it I think.
I just got my second pair of selvedge denim jeans and the first pair was too big in the waist so everything else felt nice and loose and great but my second pair I got proper in the waist and the legs fit good and they're great length but I feel like I can hardly walk in them. If I try and spread my legs at all or take a long stride it's extremely restricting and I'm wondering if that ever goes away? At some point will I be able to walk and move the way I would if they were a stretch Jean or the way I can in my Levi 501s that are 99 cotton and 1% elastain
Hmm. Difficult to say. I find that most jeans do come out a size to a half size with a lot of wear. Some on the other hand just don’t budge. It’s kinda impossible to say I’m afraid.
Cee Are Dee camon stay with the jeans i have pairs of 501 stf with more than 20 years old and they go with me to the hills, on the non selvedge only wrangler rigid mwz can beat them or the old saez marino lois rigid.Or send it to me to Portugal
I ride a wheelchair ♿️ & piss my pants 😂 I wash mine twice a week & great jeans last - cone Levi’s are my favorite along with bravestar anything. Keep them out of the dryer stupid 😢
I have been wearing 501 shrink-to-fit for decades... the way the jeans are being described is like they were just invented, and not 140+ YEARS ago! For a so called demin head to know so little about them speaks volumes, because 501's seem to be the baseline all the other brands compare themselves too.
I followed that guy’s advice, when he first posted, on my new raw denim. Wow! My jeans look amazing. I’m not really in to the high-contrast fades, so this works for me.
Fantastic Video. Personally i love Levis original shrink to fit. So comfortable and durable. I have this exact pair and it changed my life.
The guys at Resolute tumble dry their jeans all the time and they get amazing fades. I occasionally tumble dry my jeans as well and have never had any problems.
i had similar experience with Levi Made and Crafted raw unsanforized 511 jeans. Soaking and line drying did nothing. I bought size 33 because i wear same jeans in size 32. The dryer did the job, they shrunk 1 full size in waist and length shrunk from 34 inches to 32 inches. Some useful shrinkage in upper legs and seat of pants. I think dryer is your friend if the jeans are 1-2 inches too big. In terms of comfort and softness, no big change, just a bit better but no big deal. Overall, i will switch to the pre-shrunk denim now.
Levi’s 501’s are the “Chuck Taylors” of jeans. Not the best, not the most comfortable, but the most iconic of all jeans and the standard. It’s the perfect guinea-pig for these experiments.
Couldn’t have said it better.
I put a pair of Nudie Gritty Jackson in the washer at 40 degrees and then tumble dryer due to a massive weightloss and they were like 90s skate-big on me so I thought "eh, fuck it. Lets do it". Before that I hadnt washed them but that made the fade pop and they shrank down to a nice fit again, but instead of two roll-cuffs I now do one roll-cuff. Oh, and the jacron-patch disintegrated, but I never liked it anyways. :) (sorry for the bad english, not my native tongue).
The only issue I’ve had with the dryer is with veg tanned leather patches. They can become jerky if you go crazy with the heat.
True that. The paper probably holds up better than the leather.
I'll never complain about jerky. 😉
I just rub some obenaufs LP oil on there. Nice and hydrated.
When I first tried STFs I bought two pairs. The first I hot washed and hot dried before wearing and they fit fantastic afterwards. I tried the traditional hot soak and hang dry on the second pair and they were still so baggy I popped them into the washer on hot and dried them hot like the first ones. I didn't size up in the waist on either but I did go up one for the inseam with a 36.
Ya I had the same experience with STF .. I did the hot soak and hang dry , and they barley shrank .. maybe 3-5% .. but putting them in the dryer seems risky to me
@@micahweiss I've never had an issue doing it with the four pairs I've had. I wouldn't try it with real deal raw selvedge denim though. I stick to sanforized or one wash for those.
Growing up, we used to buy them big, and after washing, we always put them in the dryer. If you buy them big enough, and you're not interested in high contrast fades, I don't understand how you can ruin them.
Pro tip: after washing and tumble drying if you have the perfect fit but the waist size is unwearable, soak from the waist down to the pockets in cold water in the bath tub for about 15 minute then stretch them back out while hang drying them using a wooden peg or wooden coat hanger or something on the inside of the waist line to keep them stretched as far as they will go while they dry.
Another option is to pull the waist band only up to your knees and then open them as wide as you can to stretch out the waistband while you watch an episode of TV.
This should give you back an extra inch or two in the waist if you’ve over shrunk them. You can also throw a large bottle of hairspray or something in the pockets if you find the thighs are a little tight too.
My first pair of Nudies got washed and tumble dried by accident twice and it made them super soft and fit better. I prefer my unwashed Momotaro's tho tbh. Nice to have variety.
I’ve saved so many of my jeans from almost being washed by my wife 😂 one didn’t make it tho.
It is funny how people panic about possibly ruining jeans by machine washing and drying. They do fade differently. And the washing machine design can make a difference. Many people in the US have center agitator washing machines that strike the clothes to push them around the tub of soapy water. That can help soften the denim. And sometimes make some unusual fade spots (sometimes the denim gets twisted during agitatation). Tumble drying on low can minimize shrinking. Good to use the moisture sensor to prevent over drying if the dryer has that option. I washed my jeans for many years. As my mom did when I was a child. Because that is what everyone did.
But much prefer wearing my raw unwashed sanforized jeans today. Or soaking my unsanforized jeans before wearing. I hate buying prewashed jeans. Always have. But somewhere in the 80s it became increasingly difficult to find any jeans that were not prewashed. It was great to me when raw denim took off mid 2000s and unwashed denim was more available to purchase. Along with all the amazing selvedge denims that started being woven. Unfortunately it probably made me more of a denim fanatic than before. 🙂
Yeah the 80s and 90s were dark days for denim.
I ruined my 2 sanforized selves tumble dried, benzac and gustin bother straight with a slight tasper after dryer they shrunk two sizes .. turned them into skinny jeans
I did a shrinking process on a pair if brand new 501s STF from 2013 a week ago. The way I did it was to soak them for 30 minutes in 3L of water with around 0.5L of white vinegar heated to 70 degrees Celsius. After that I rinsed them in the shower, I put them on and went out to dry them while wearing them.
Once dried, I put them in the washing machine with soft soap and then into a light tumble dry cycle in the drier.
Results were awesome, I bought them true to size at the waist and about three inches long in the length. The waist didn't shrink more than 1 cm, while the length shrunk by about 3", giving me a perfect fit.
After the hot water soak and the initial shrink they had shrunk about three inches in the length, the drier took care of the final inch to get it perfect.
Happy with how it turned out.
I don't put much in the dryer period
As long as you turn the jeans inside out you're fine using the washer and dryer.
I'm relatively new to the denim world, but I've got a pair of Cone Mills from both Brave Star and Gustin. My Levi's STF 501s still get the most wear, you just can't beat the fit. And they really do patina nicely even with machine washing as needed
How do they fade over time without washing and only soaking? I can not find any videos or pictures of fading black denim
With a whitw weft.
What about tumble dryer with no heat?
So I just bought some Studio D’artisan raw denim jeans. So basically they should be fine to do the first wash via machine and dryer. I don’t have to be overly protective and soak them ?
Dryers… be careful there. That’s a bit unpredictable. But for the washing machine. You’re good. Just turn them inside out and not such a high spin cycle.
My wife put mine in the drier once and they got fade lines in strange directions that I didn’t like
Yeah. Sucks when that happens.
I would say that black selvedge shouldn’t go in the tumble dryer. I’ve learned the hard way that even inside out, they get crazy marbling and it’s pretty ugly
All my black jeans get that no matter what I do. Guess I could go no wash at all but that’s nasty and I am getting to kinda like it.
Recently bought a pair of STF 501's and they are significantly 'bluer' than these. These look like the Rigid indigo that my Levi's trucker jacket is, my STF's seem just a little more blue and less indigo. Weird.
Mine are so dark I think they are black. 😂👖
@@CeeAreDee I kinda wish mine were!
@@forrestclark6069 selling mine if you’re interested
Had a pair like that 10 or so years ago the blue mellowed out over time, but for a while I felt like Homer Simpson!
Mine toward black/grey then blue indigo,😂
Could you please share the tag with type an colour ID ? I would like to try this with my size, too. Like your videos!
Do you know of any stores worth visiting in Hamburg with the leather and denim we like? 🙂
I have 24 hours there 2moro.
The Stuff Store. Riders Room. Thomas iPunkt. That’s will keep you busy.
@@CeeAreDee thanks man... also visittet Ironheart store.
Random Denim Question.
Have you any experience with Blackhorse Lane Ateliers?
They make amazing jeans and they are nice folks.
Hey man, I am in Berlin from US will be in Europe for a while. Forgot my leather jacket in ahstupid packing move. Can you recommend to me a couple stores to try?
Pop over to my guys at Burg & Schild. Kay, David or Ruben can sort you out no problem.
Just be careful with some denim. My new pair of Sugar Canes covered the inside of my dryer with denim after first wash and dry (was in a hurry to dry I think). Some acetone got it all off, but it was a little alarming at first.
NO jean has ever beat the Levi's fit.
you have a tumble dryer, that is a separate machine, that actually drys denim dry ? and you live in Germany ? I thought cooking clothes to death at 800 million degrees was an American thing, everyone else just blows air over wet clothes for hours and like hanging damp clothes on a line in the bathroom
i purchased a pair of PBJ Greencast jeans too large and threw them in the dryer on hot after a hot warm wash. It shrunk a little but i wound up purchasing a new pair in a smaller size anyway. the difference in the nep, color and character of the denim was night and day compared to the new greencast jeans. . i’ll never throw denim in the wash or dryer again.
I'm about to try this with a pair of momotaro 501s. The 32 size 701s were two inches too small for me so I returned them ($$ouch) for a pair of 33 size 201s which are two inches too large for me. Usually I fit a 32 (About 84cm waist) which matched the measurements at the store, so I don't know what's going on. What I do know is that I'm not paying $70 and waiting around for the delivery guy and paying duty a third time to return them again. I hope the legs twist like mad and they look really strange, the things only possible with unsanforized but dialled up to 11 due to being a horrible evil man who washes them wrong. Mahaha.
update: It worked perfectly, they shrunk an inch or so. This was a hot one hour presoak in the tub followed by a hot/cold cycle in the washer followed by a hot tumble in the drier, repeatedly until no need to hang dry remained. I broke all the rules. The legs got more twisty. I love the look. In fact, I loved it so much I tossed it back in for a second run with two more pairs that had slightly loosened in the waist. Both fit perfectly without a belt again and have more leg twist. No colour fading, texture's fine, though obviously less crisp and I lost a bit of the hair on a nice fuzzy 22oz pair. I can see why people stress when the average pair is nearly $500. I'm a bit mad to risk $1200 and a year of wear like that, but I'm glad I did. We really do worry too much about it I think.
I just got my second pair of selvedge denim jeans and the first pair was too big in the waist so everything else felt nice and loose and great but my second pair I got proper in the waist and the legs fit good and they're great length but I feel like I can hardly walk in them. If I try and spread my legs at all or take a long stride it's extremely restricting and I'm wondering if that ever goes away? At some point will I be able to walk and move the way I would if they were a stretch Jean or the way I can in my Levi 501s that are 99 cotton and 1% elastain
Hmm. Difficult to say. I find that most jeans do come out a size to a half size with a lot of wear. Some on the other hand just don’t budge. It’s kinda impossible to say I’m afraid.
You know a brand of denim who make jeans selvedge made to measure?
Paul Kruiz from the Netherlands and Vipiana denim from Canada will make you made to measure.
@@CeeAreDee thanks, but you know a brand japanese who make this ?
@@anthonymerchanmorales8150 I think im a brand japanese I think I'm a brand japanese I really think so
I think this is wrong, look at the guy who ownes Resolute Denim in Japan. He tumble dries his jeans and they look amazing.
Cee Are Dee camon stay with the jeans i have pairs of 501 stf with more than 20 years old and they go with me to the hills, on the non selvedge only wrangler rigid mwz can beat them or the old saez marino lois rigid.Or send it to me to Portugal
I ride a wheelchair ♿️ & piss my pants 😂 I wash mine twice a week & great jeans last - cone Levi’s are my favorite along with bravestar anything. Keep them out of the dryer stupid 😢
So how are you supposed to finally wash a pair of raw Salvage denim?
You get the morning wood angles to wash them in the toilet bowl
5:02 it’s actually pronounced jacron
I have been wearing 501 shrink-to-fit for decades... the way the jeans are being described is like they were just invented, and not 140+ YEARS ago!
For a so called demin head to know so little about them speaks volumes, because 501's seem to be the baseline all the other brands compare themselves too.
One of the best brands in the world, I just did a review and campaign on the brand check it out and let me know what you think! 🙌 #gstar