Hat's of to the presenter. One of the best well presented videos from Bennetts by far. Let's hope we see more of the delightful person presenting more videos for the near future. Better yet at all your promotional events..!
Very good and informative video, the mantra I tried to instill in my Daughters when I taught them to drive was "you are only driving as far as you can see but try to see as far as you can"
Very intriguing and a way cool use of technology!! Been waiting to see the findings and what we can learn since Simon mentioned taking part in the study on Front End Chatter!
I am a new novice road rider, Only on a 250 for about 2 years. Been a car driver for over 25 years. So it would be nice to see same 3 novice through to experianced riders doing the same track but in a car.. I know its a bike show, so do understand this being a no.. Thanks for showing.
Yes, I want to repeat the test and simplify it - just me and a novice rider, then take the time to sit down and analyse the video together and show more of it. I'm hoping it will show more areas for improvement.
As a high performance driving instructor for Porsche and BMW I coach novices through experienced racers and can tell you that the results would be quite the same.
Very Interesting and relevant vid. Especially enjoyed the 'Reading the Road' section. As an ex-racer and having done IAM advanced, I fully embrace and practice the 'Vanishing Point' technique, but often find my vision dropping to scan the road closer looking for loose gravel and broken road surfaces on the rural A and B roads I normally ride. It's something I have to consciously force myself to stop doing. Great vid, and thanks to everyone involved in making it. Cheers Guys!!!
Totally agree, I find it a constant battle to force my eyes to look far ahead as the state of the roads I ride are full of dangers that have me on edge, such as the manholes on a bend, the size of some of the potholes, overbanding etc
This was nicely presented, very straightforward and of great interest for all riders. Not to brag excessively but I used other eye tracking technology for research starting in 2011 with another companies devices which were a little more complicated, this technology is better but what they had was accurate. All of the data we accumulated fit in with the Superbike School's visual drills and some visual theories we'd been looking at for some time. Much of that translated into the 32 visual drills we've developed to overcome the common errors, a few of which this presentation shows on a comparative basis with riders of various skill levels. The take away for all riders is to try and always pick the next location where they want themselves and their bike to be and stay with it until certain they will arrive there rather than random and excess scanning as clearly shown by Jason, even with his orientation laps of the circuit and improving from there.
Been riding 11 years and describe myself as an intermediate road rider, DAS school done enough to get me through test, but the biggest thing I say to novice riders is look where you want to go, sounds obvious but novices look where they don't want to go, good video thanks.
Thanks Dave. It's rule 1. And it's nice to get to grips with why that's the case - it's all about developing a subconscious 'movement' plan - and the further ahead we look, the better planned it will be.
One of the most interesting videos on any channel that I have watched in a long time, thank you team Bennetts. I thought my head movement when out riding may be excessive but watching Steve, I don't believe now that is anything out of the ordinary. Also what Steve was commenting on in terms of using all of the available information to determine where the road is going rings true, while using the vanishing point dictates pace. I would certainly volunteer to be a test subject for those glasses.
The amount of head movement may well depend on whether you wear glasses when riding and what type of lenses you have - for example, with varifocals you have to move your head rather than your eyes.
@@robertyork4041 at this point I don't wear glasses for riding or driving, I do have vari-focals for reading/watching TV etc. Maybe my head movement is related to work, where in addition to scanning for hazards, I'm also looking around for infringements. Maybe this has crossed over into my personal riding.
Very interesting video, thank you. When riding in the country I have trained myself to turn my head into the corner while on the approach, and then scan with my eyes through the corner, road surface and exit. It seems to be easier to just move my eyes and ensures that the cornering line is a lot smoother. In multiple corners I move my head to the next corner as soon as I feel I can safely achieve the exit point of the one I am currently in. The main thing is to move my head in preparation for the next corner as early as safe and practical.
That's a good point and a good idea; it might also be that by, as you say, training yourself to move your head, it reinforces the act - a kind of self-fulfilling cycle.
Indeed a fascinating bit of kit. Huge training potential for any rider. Would love to take a class to better learn eye control, with this technology. What a great time to be a motorcycle enthusiast. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
As I am sure you are aware, the entire level 2 of California Superbike program is devoted to “vision”. This video certainly complements the teachings of Dylan and Keith Code and adds further support and research to the concepts introduced in level 2 of their program. I found the eye usage in the various riding environments, track, rural setting, and urban setting, particularly informative and instructional. Needless to say, i love the video!
This is useful information.... I've been riding many years but aware I'm not a good rider , I'm an average rider .. This kind of video advise gives me some confidence to think ahead ' , That's my feeling ... Thankyou
Thank you. I'm convinced one of the greatest tricks (or skills; I think it's actually a learned technique) to a long and safe riding career - is to 'exist' a few seconds in the future when you ride. Your 'now' brain should be dealing with things at a subconscious level; an automatic routine, as natural as breathing. Your 'future' brain should be 'existing' a few seconds in the future, processing incoming information like a computer buffering data. It's sorting out what matters and what doesn't, streamlining the flood of information and weeding out the irrelevant stuff, and flagging up the important things for your 'now' brain to get ready for. That way, in the physical 'now', you're always prepared. As a rider, the idea is for nothing to surprise you, because you've already predicted it and planned for it. To anyone following, it looks like you've a got a sixth sense and can predict the future - in fact it's because you already saw that parked car with the front wheels turned, engine running, driver with a turned head - so you knew it would pull out - etc etc. There are thousands of situations in which you can predict the likely probabilities, but the most common are relatively few in number. You can be told about this stuff over and over, and go on courses and get certificates, but there's no substitute for miles under your wheels - and EXPERIENCING it. And thinking about it - rationalising what's happened each time you ride, learn it, file it away. Remember that practice isn't just repetition. It's repetition plus failure - which is why it's SO important to take the smallest baby steps with learning. You have to fail without falling.
I'd be really interested to see this applied to off-road/trail/adventure riding. Lots of looking back and forth between trail and rocks, and target fixation.
Such a great video, full of insights! Thanks, Simon. In France we are taught to move our eyes AND our head to enhance the road reading (it is even part of what the examiner watch when you pass the road tes). By the way I loved the balance practice at the traffic light, I can see I still have to improve when I look at you!
Very interesting video and (probably) a world first for biking, well done! I spent the first 15 years or so after passing my test (and without any further training) not looking far enough ahead when I was riding. The biggest symptom of that was "fifty pence-piecing" bends in the road , i.e. going around the corner but not looking far enough ahead so you either have to slow down or speed up and change road position. It was very frustrating because I didn't know what the problem was; I just felt like a not-very-good road rider. You sooner you teach yourself (or get taught) to stop doing that the better! P.S. I noticed that you guys have hit 100k subscribers! Congratulations! 🏆
Simon, what an excellent insight. When training, we always ask where riders are looking on the road, but this tech would confirm this. Something to look into as it could be a great training tool. Thanks
The head turning there is a really interesting point, imagine you can see mostly in the middle 60-90° and your peripherals are taking in the rest of the 30-40°, turning your head means that additional peripheral view can pick up additional information - top stuff. Noticed not many of the riders using too many blind spot checks which for me is critically important especially when moving off or turning down a side street
Well spotted - we both do plenty of mirror checks in the unedited video, but neither me nor Steve do a single lifesaver. I think having a 360° perception of the world around you is critical - being aware of what's behind you, what's at the sides and even what's above, really matters. I visualise it as riding in a sphere of influence: everything outside it doesn't matter, everything inside it matters a lot. It's a bit like an airport flight control radar display - you're the tower in the middle, vehicles are blips on the radar. You need to understand their 'flight paths' and coordinate them all so none of them fly into you. I've thought about life savers and realised I generally do them when I'm about to change lanes on dual carriageways and motorways, or if I'm going straight on at a roundabout and there's vehicle on my inside that SHOULD be turning right, but sometimes they don't... - so basically when I'm potentially pulling out into the path of faster-moving traffic. So I get a good look in the mirrors - moving my head and changing my viewing angle to do a complete check - indicate (sometimes), THEN do a lifesaver (sometimes two), then move. When I'm pulling away from junctions or lights (which it's always a good idea to filter to the front of), I'm literally always accelerating earlier and faster then the general traffic - I think testing reaction times against the lights is a useful 'game' to keep mentally sharp (a bit like balancing tests as you approach them). I do a double mirror check, scanning to see the car or van is behind me and how fast they're accelerating - but I ride with the philosophy of keeping vehicles as far away from me as I can (unless you're, like, jammed in traffic in town!)
Interesting and informative, reinforcing the need to generally raise the eyeline but not at the expense of being aware of what's going on around you when in a hazardous environment, whether town or country.
Interesting stuff. I continually remind myself to look up and through the corners especially when I’ve not been on the bike for a while. The point you make about looking directly in front of you when you have no chance to change anything is obvious but in bad conditions I find myself drawn to looking at the road surface for diesel, grit, muck and potholes. It takes practice and discipline to lift your eye-line and give yourself time to react.
Oh wow. Excellent example of how tech made for other application can be used in bike riding. IMO this pupil lab glasses can be a very very good teaching tool for riders at any skill levels, on road or track. Thank you for making us aware of this tech.
Yes, a good technical project. Well done. Only just scratched the surface though. Taking in all the visual information you can is the first step, interpreting it and what it means for you is another thing entirely. Thoroughly enjoyed watching.
Happy to see the tech on these getting to a usable place. Had discussions with the developers of eye tracking in the UK who showed me the original purpose (checking pilot eye movements in the Harrier) and some footage of a car driver using it. The idea was to use the tech for driver training, theory being that you could teach people via simulator where to look thus accelerating awareness learning. Project fell through (my fault) but this video gives me hope that it can be introduced properly by someone.
I found the article really interesting for a number of reason, the track guys the experience shows. On the road two experienced guys looking at all the visual aids and hazards. I feel this exercise should be further advance by DVLA or University on motorcyclist eyes, we can learn a hell of lot for new and experienced riders, thumbs up for me, cheers
Fascinating video. Up there in my favourites. You're helping make thinking riders with content like this, well done to you all, hope there's more of the same to come.
Probably one of the best riding videos out there. I'd love to see the full videos for the track as well as the back roads. Is it possible to post them?
Excellent video. I've been trying to explain to my youngest son, who doesn't ride, how much information is processed while riding (well, why I'm knackered after a Sunday ride!). The town video shows exactly that, and would in itself serve as a very good training aid. I'd wager 3/4 of car drivers wouldn't take in anything like that amount of information.
Great bit of kit. I think its hard to switch of from road mode to track mode. If you just ride on track , then you just look wear you going . Road riders look at all objects to keep safe .. so to switch from road to track would be harder .. Great vid tho . Ride safe 🙏
Everyone will be trying harder to look in the right direction because they know they are being recorded. Nope I was wrong with that technology there is no trying to beat it. It literally follows your eye movement not just head movement.
Been riding 50 years and really enjoyed the video, still learning 🤓, I wonder if we could see what car drivers etc look at while driving so we could anticipate more there actions etc ?
Now that IS a good idea. My general riding philosophy regarding other traffic is to get away from it as quickly as possible, on the basis it can't hurt you if it's behind you - which is challenged by BikeSocial's John Milbank who got punted off his Enfield from behind the other day - the video is here: th-cam.com/video/J4OL5KixEl8/w-d-xo.html - but that's why it's a good idea to always filter - if you're alongside a stationary vehicle, you're safer than being sat behind it! That's why I always like being in front of traffic; it's safer there. Anyway, I kinda think of traffic as being like dull-witted, generally slow-moving herbivores, like metal cows. They move in largely predictable patterns of behaviour and are likely to do the dumbest things - like pulling out of junctions, changing lanes, hitting you from behind etc - so expect the most stupid behaviour at all times. Never be surprised how thick they are (not the drivers; I mean in an imaginary 'cars are cows' sense). But although they do stupid things, they tend not to do them very quickly, which gives fast, smart, agile motorcycles - which I think of as being like velociraptors - a big advantage.
Should be ABLE to look anywhere and still controll it obviously....its as simple as it is on a mountain bicycle. I mean we cant go looping it and taking random hard lefts cos a hot one was walking by 🤯😁🙏✊✊
Interesting video and hopefully could be incorporated into an affordable helmet sometime in the near future along with a HUD. One point I'd like to add, why did your colleague keep crossing onto the opposite side of the road during the B Road excercise? And messy balancing at the traffic lights ;) tsk tsk.
I'm trying to find a similar recording of motorcycle safety instructor - if anyone knows the title or link, please reply to this comment. I remember the guy was checking his mirrors every second, it looked amazing.
Forget the bike reviews, the renewal quote and service I was offered by Bennetts this year was appalling and an absolute disgrace. I was offered better cover at less than half the price, so I’ve moved on. The rep on the phone was not interested at all. So after being on two wheels for over 45 years, my tip for fellow bikers is don’t use Bennetts!
There is a good argument along those lines; but the reality is a lot of pure track riders don't bother riding on the road - many haven't even got licences. Those who do who I've ridden with - guys like Steve Plater - are smooth, rapid and safe; it's a different mindset and they're smart enough to know that. Having said that, I spent a few hours on the road with Alex Rins this spring and I tell you what, he can ride a bit on a V-Strom 1050 on road tyres. What I wouldn't do, though, is get in a plane piloted by an ex-racer. Racers have to have a positive attitude to risk and anticipate positive outcomes. Pilots have the exact opposite; they're risk averse and anticipate negative outcomes. That's why there are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old bold pilots.
You basicaly look where you want to go . Its different for racers compared to road riding . Road riding you should be looking where you want to go with glances around to pick up hazards . You instinctivly end up steering where you are looking , thats why there are accidents of rubber kneckers steering into the back of staionary vehicles or peole
For the streets, I was surprised to see you only checking the mirrors twice. Once at the stoplight, but only when you were moving up, and then once before a stoplight. Yet you say that you are looking at everything at the scene, when you have no idea what so ever what is happening behind you (so 50% of the scene).. Brave or stupid?
Hat's of to the presenter. One of the best well presented videos from Bennetts by far.
Let's hope we see more of the delightful person presenting more videos for the near future.
Better yet at all your promotional events..!
Thank you! It's my birthday today and you've just made it even more memorable 🍻
Very good and informative video, the mantra I tried to instill in my Daughters when I taught them to drive was "you are only driving as far as you can see but try to see as far as you can"
Didn't know my insurer had a YT channel, pretty good prices lol
Very intriguing and a way cool use of technology!! Been waiting to see the findings and what we can learn since Simon mentioned taking part in the study on Front End Chatter!
I am a new novice road rider, Only on a 250 for about 2 years.
Been a car driver for over 25 years.
So it would be nice to see same 3 novice through to experianced riders doing the same track but in a car..
I know its a bike show, so do understand this being a no..
Thanks for showing.
Yes, I want to repeat the test and simplify it - just me and a novice rider, then take the time to sit down and analyse the video together and show more of it. I'm hoping it will show more areas for improvement.
As a high performance driving instructor for Porsche and BMW I coach novices through experienced racers and can tell you that the results would be quite the same.
Very Interesting and relevant vid. Especially enjoyed the 'Reading the Road' section. As an ex-racer and having done IAM advanced, I fully embrace and practice the 'Vanishing Point' technique, but often find my vision dropping to scan the road closer looking for loose gravel and broken road surfaces on the rural A and B roads I normally ride. It's something I have to consciously force myself to stop doing.
Great vid, and thanks to everyone involved in making it. Cheers Guys!!!
Totally agree, I find it a constant battle to force my eyes to look far ahead as the state of the roads I ride are full of dangers that have me on edge, such as the manholes on a bend, the size of some of the potholes, overbanding etc
Have to look everywhere, including the air, for speed cameras...
Love the way Jason holds his arms as advertising hoardings, throughout. Top fella
This was nicely presented, very straightforward and of great interest for all riders. Not to brag excessively but I used other eye tracking technology for research starting in 2011 with another companies devices which were a little more complicated, this technology is better but what they had was accurate. All of the data we accumulated fit in with the Superbike School's visual drills and some visual theories we'd been looking at for some time. Much of that translated into the 32 visual drills we've developed to overcome the common errors, a few of which this presentation shows on a comparative basis with riders of various skill levels. The take away for all riders is to try and always pick the next location where they want themselves and their bike to be and stay with it until certain they will arrive there rather than random and excess scanning as clearly shown by Jason, even with his orientation laps of the circuit and improving from there.
Nice subject...I don't think I've ever seen a video like this
God I love this channel
Been riding 11 years and describe myself as an intermediate road rider, DAS school done enough to get me through test, but the biggest thing I say to novice riders is look where you want to go, sounds obvious but novices look where they don't want to go, good video thanks.
Thanks Dave. It's rule 1. And it's nice to get to grips with why that's the case - it's all about developing a subconscious 'movement' plan - and the further ahead we look, the better planned it will be.
One of the most interesting videos on any channel that I have watched in a long time, thank you team Bennetts.
I thought my head movement when out riding may be excessive but watching Steve, I don't believe now that is anything out of the ordinary. Also what Steve was commenting on in terms of using all of the available information to determine where the road is going rings true, while using the vanishing point dictates pace.
I would certainly volunteer to be a test subject for those glasses.
The amount of head movement may well depend on whether you wear glasses when riding and what type of lenses you have - for example, with varifocals you have to move your head rather than your eyes.
@@robertyork4041 at this point I don't wear glasses for riding or driving, I do have vari-focals for reading/watching TV etc.
Maybe my head movement is related to work, where in addition to scanning for hazards, I'm also looking around for infringements. Maybe this has crossed over into my personal riding.
Very interesting video, thank you. When riding in the country I have trained myself to turn my head into the corner while on the approach, and then scan with my eyes through the corner, road surface and exit. It seems to be easier to just move my eyes and ensures that the cornering line is a lot smoother. In multiple corners I move my head to the next corner as soon as I feel I can safely achieve the exit point of the one I am currently in. The main thing is to move my head in preparation for the next corner as early as safe and practical.
That's a good point and a good idea; it might also be that by, as you say, training yourself to move your head, it reinforces the act - a kind of self-fulfilling cycle.
Interesting article Si. As you say something that advanced riding schools could use to debrief rides and advise students.
Cheers Andy - the glasses aren't very Covid-friendly, so it would have to wait for a while. But that's part of my plan :-)
What a great program! Simon has been my favourite since BIKE. Thank you for putting this together. Its never enough learning.
It was a very insightful day. Thanks for your praise!
Indeed a fascinating bit of kit. Huge training potential for any rider. Would love to take a class to better learn eye control, with this technology. What a great time to be a motorcycle enthusiast. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
As I am sure you are aware, the entire level 2 of California Superbike program is devoted to “vision”. This video certainly complements the teachings of Dylan and Keith Code and adds further support and research to the concepts introduced in level 2 of their program. I found the eye usage in the various riding environments, track, rural setting, and urban setting, particularly informative and instructional. Needless to say, i love the video!
The show of concentration on Jason literally like right this where we going no distractions so focused great to watch 👊🏼
A long time ago an old biker said to me:
Motorbikes are magic... They go where you look.
After 50 years of practice... i find he's right.
This is useful information....
I've been riding many years but aware I'm not a good rider , I'm an average rider ..
This kind of video advise gives me some confidence to think ahead ' ,
That's my feeling ... Thankyou
Thank you. I'm convinced one of the greatest tricks (or skills; I think it's actually a learned technique) to a long and safe riding career - is to 'exist' a few seconds in the future when you ride.
Your 'now' brain should be dealing with things at a subconscious level; an automatic routine, as natural as breathing.
Your 'future' brain should be 'existing' a few seconds in the future, processing incoming information like a computer buffering data. It's sorting out what matters and what doesn't, streamlining the flood of information and weeding out the irrelevant stuff, and flagging up the important things for your 'now' brain to get ready for.
That way, in the physical 'now', you're always prepared. As a rider, the idea is for nothing to surprise you, because you've already predicted it and planned for it. To anyone following, it looks like you've a got a sixth sense and can predict the future - in fact it's because you already saw that parked car with the front wheels turned, engine running, driver with a turned head - so you knew it would pull out - etc etc. There are thousands of situations in which you can predict the likely probabilities, but the most common are relatively few in number.
You can be told about this stuff over and over, and go on courses and get certificates, but there's no substitute for miles under your wheels - and EXPERIENCING it. And thinking about it - rationalising what's happened each time you ride, learn it, file it away. Remember that practice isn't just repetition. It's repetition plus failure - which is why it's SO important to take the smallest baby steps with learning. You have to fail without falling.
I'd be really interested to see this applied to off-road/trail/adventure riding. Lots of looking back and forth between trail and rocks, and target fixation.
Brilliant video!! Fascinating and really helpful.....Thanks!
This was honestly incredible video. Props. Never seen anything like this on youtube. Do this same test with every pro rider
Such a great video, full of insights! Thanks, Simon. In France we are taught to move our eyes AND our head to enhance the road reading (it is even part of what the examiner watch when you pass the road tes).
By the way I loved the balance practice at the traffic light, I can see I still have to improve when I look at you!
I feel this will really help my safety and comfort when riding. Great video thank you so much for sharing.
Very interesting video and (probably) a world first for biking, well done!
I spent the first 15 years or so after passing my test (and without any further training) not looking far enough ahead when I was riding. The biggest symptom of that was "fifty pence-piecing" bends in the road , i.e. going around the corner but not looking far enough ahead so you either have to slow down or speed up and change road position. It was very frustrating because I didn't know what the problem was; I just felt like a not-very-good road rider. You sooner you teach yourself (or get taught) to stop doing that the better!
P.S. I noticed that you guys have hit 100k subscribers! Congratulations! 🏆
Simon, what an excellent insight. When training, we always ask where riders are looking on the road, but this tech would confirm this. Something to look into as it could be a great training tool. Thanks
The head turning there is a really interesting point, imagine you can see mostly in the middle 60-90° and your peripherals are taking in the rest of the 30-40°, turning your head means that additional peripheral view can pick up additional information - top stuff.
Noticed not many of the riders using too many blind spot checks which for me is critically important especially when moving off or turning down a side street
Well spotted - we both do plenty of mirror checks in the unedited video, but neither me nor Steve do a single lifesaver.
I think having a 360° perception of the world around you is critical - being aware of what's behind you, what's at the sides and even what's above, really matters. I visualise it as riding in a sphere of influence: everything outside it doesn't matter, everything inside it matters a lot. It's a bit like an airport flight control radar display - you're the tower in the middle, vehicles are blips on the radar. You need to understand their 'flight paths' and coordinate them all so none of them fly into you.
I've thought about life savers and realised I generally do them when I'm about to change lanes on dual carriageways and motorways, or if I'm going straight on at a roundabout and there's vehicle on my inside that SHOULD be turning right, but sometimes they don't... - so basically when I'm potentially pulling out into the path of faster-moving traffic. So I get a good look in the mirrors - moving my head and changing my viewing angle to do a complete check - indicate (sometimes), THEN do a lifesaver (sometimes two), then move.
When I'm pulling away from junctions or lights (which it's always a good idea to filter to the front of), I'm literally always accelerating earlier and faster then the general traffic - I think testing reaction times against the lights is a useful 'game' to keep mentally sharp (a bit like balancing tests as you approach them). I do a double mirror check, scanning to see the car or van is behind me and how fast they're accelerating - but I ride with the philosophy of keeping vehicles as far away from me as I can (unless you're, like, jammed in traffic in town!)
Interesting and informative, reinforcing the need to generally raise the eyeline but not at the expense of being aware of what's going on around you when in a hazardous environment, whether town or country.
Interesting stuff. I continually remind myself to look up and through the corners especially when I’ve not been on the bike for a while. The point you make about looking directly in front of you when you have no chance to change anything is obvious but in bad conditions I find myself drawn to looking at the road surface for diesel, grit, muck and potholes. It takes practice and discipline to lift your eye-line and give yourself time to react.
Oh wow. Excellent example of how tech made for other application can be used in bike riding. IMO this pupil lab glasses can be a very very good teaching tool for riders at any skill levels, on road or track.
Thank you for making us aware of this tech.
Good call! Thanks for the comment B&B
Brilliant piece Simon, especially the B Road part for me.
Yes, a good technical project. Well done. Only just scratched the surface though. Taking in all the visual information you can is the first step, interpreting it and what it means for you is another thing entirely. Thoroughly enjoyed watching.
that was really informative... and goes to show how important 'looking ahead' and driving through the corner is..
really good awakening. really appreciate this. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Splendid experiment. Shall surely keep this in mind whilst riding
Very interesting to watch this. I notice that road riding , no one looked into the mirrors once, I'm always checking my mirrors .just a thought.
I thought there was very little checking of mirrors when in town (by Simon)
They should show this video in every first rider course. No hyperbole it's that important
Wasn't expecting the technology to be that good. Wow!
Happy to see the tech on these getting to a usable place.
Had discussions with the developers of eye tracking in the UK who showed me the original purpose (checking pilot eye movements in the Harrier) and some footage of a car driver using it. The idea was to use the tech for driver training, theory being that you could teach people via simulator where to look thus accelerating awareness learning.
Project fell through (my fault) but this video gives me hope that it can be introduced properly by someone.
This should have way more views. Awesome info.
I found the article really interesting for a number of reason, the track guys the experience shows. On the road two experienced guys looking at all the visual aids and hazards. I feel this exercise should be further advance by DVLA or University on motorcyclist eyes, we can learn a hell of lot for new and experienced riders, thumbs up for me, cheers
This is a best video I been looking for
Thank you !!!!!
That was very interesting to see! I think there's definitely something to be learned! - Thanks!
Fascinating video. Up there in my favourites. You're helping make thinking riders with content like this, well done to you all, hope there's more of the same to come.
Highway Code would be a good start....
Excellent.
Really enjoyed your video ,thankyou ,and sorry for your loss
Probably one of the best riding videos out there. I'd love to see the full videos for the track as well as the back roads. Is it possible to post them?
Good idea. I'll look into and see if we can. Don't see why not.
Excellent video. I've been trying to explain to my youngest son, who doesn't ride, how much information is processed while riding (well, why I'm knackered after a Sunday ride!). The town video shows exactly that, and would in itself serve as a very good training aid. I'd wager 3/4 of car drivers wouldn't take in anything like that amount of information.
Great stuff, I saw this on a tv show many years ago and was engrossed so as soon as Simon ‘social ed’ I looked it up.
Would be interesting to see this technology used on a rider at the TT. I bet their eyes don’t wander at all.
I think you're right - I would guess their eyelines would be much like Jason's at the track.
Might be a few who have them closed down bray hill 🥴 😆
Great video. Very interesting. I definitely consider where I'm looking, once I'm riding well.
Great bit of kit. I think its hard to switch of from road mode to track mode. If you just ride on track , then you just look wear you going . Road riders look at all objects to keep safe .. so to switch from road to track would be harder .. Great vid tho . Ride safe 🙏
Some fascinating data there. Interesting to see how different backgrounds react differently.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I would love to see what I look at being a car driver first and biker second.
Great article. It would be really interesting to see how things changed as the riders fatigued over a full days ride.
Fantastic vid Simon very interesting thank you
Really helpful and insightful!
Really good video, very interesting topic - Robbo would be proud of you Simon !
I'm not sure he would, but thank you! :-) That's about as high as praise gets.
Fantastic, while doing the IAM course I kept thinking this would be a great video for someone to make
Everyone will be trying harder to look in the right direction because they know they are being recorded. Nope I was wrong with that technology there is no trying to beat it. It literally follows your eye movement not just head movement.
Excellent vid. Thanks.
Great video, guys.
Been riding 50 years and really enjoyed the video, still learning 🤓, I wonder if we could see what car drivers etc look at while driving so we could anticipate more there actions etc ?
Now that IS a good idea.
My general riding philosophy regarding other traffic is to get away from it as quickly as possible, on the basis it can't hurt you if it's behind you - which is challenged by BikeSocial's John Milbank who got punted off his Enfield from behind the other day - the video is here: th-cam.com/video/J4OL5KixEl8/w-d-xo.html - but that's why it's a good idea to always filter - if you're alongside a stationary vehicle, you're safer than being sat behind it! That's why I always like being in front of traffic; it's safer there.
Anyway, I kinda think of traffic as being like dull-witted, generally slow-moving herbivores, like metal cows. They move in largely predictable patterns of behaviour and are likely to do the dumbest things - like pulling out of junctions, changing lanes, hitting you from behind etc - so expect the most stupid behaviour at all times. Never be surprised how thick they are (not the drivers; I mean in an imaginary 'cars are cows' sense). But although they do stupid things, they tend not to do them very quickly, which gives fast, smart, agile motorcycles - which I think of as being like velociraptors - a big advantage.
Lots of car drivers would be looking at their mobile phones 😩😩
Excellent use of technology.
Should be ABLE to look anywhere and still controll it obviously....its as simple as it is on a mountain bicycle. I mean we cant go looping it and taking random hard lefts cos a hot one was walking by 🤯😁🙏✊✊
you guys should get a motogp rider for this test. 5laps on a unknown track & again one that he already know,that should be interesting.
Great video!
Btw California superbike school made it ~5 years before this one got published.
Should have used the same 3 riders for the track and road to get a good sense of behavioural change when going from track to road.
always wanted to do a police course but only ever did an advanced , there they look as far as poss and scan back
Interesting video and hopefully could be incorporated into an affordable helmet sometime in the near future along with a HUD.
One point I'd like to add, why did your colleague keep crossing onto the opposite side of the road during the B Road excercise? And messy balancing at the traffic lights ;) tsk tsk.
I'm trying to find a similar recording of motorcycle safety instructor - if anyone knows the title or link, please reply to this comment. I remember the guy was checking his mirrors every second, it looked amazing.
21:46 is where the roadcraft part starts
why do they have their arms like that when standing up? its like they have a cast
Forget the bike reviews, the renewal quote and service I was offered by Bennetts this year was appalling and an absolute disgrace. I was offered better cover at less than half the price, so I’ve moved on. The rep on the phone was not interested at all. So after being on two wheels for over 45 years, my tip for fellow bikers is don’t use Bennetts!
If you thought this was good try the eyegym.com, used by most formula racer training programmes.
Simon wouldn't pass the exam these days in the Netherlands because of not turning his head.
Looks to me that track riders should avoid road riding.
There is a good argument along those lines; but the reality is a lot of pure track riders don't bother riding on the road - many haven't even got licences. Those who do who I've ridden with - guys like Steve Plater - are smooth, rapid and safe; it's a different mindset and they're smart enough to know that.
Having said that, I spent a few hours on the road with Alex Rins this spring and I tell you what, he can ride a bit on a V-Strom 1050 on road tyres.
What I wouldn't do, though, is get in a plane piloted by an ex-racer. Racers have to have a positive attitude to risk and anticipate positive outcomes. Pilots have the exact opposite; they're risk averse and anticipate negative outcomes. That's why there are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old bold pilots.
You basicaly look where you want to go . Its different for racers compared to road riding . Road riding you should be looking where you want to go with glances around to pick up hazards . You instinctivly end up steering where you are looking , thats why there are accidents of rubber kneckers steering into the back of staionary vehicles or peole
whats going on with that arms?
For the streets, I was surprised to see you only checking the mirrors twice. Once at the stoplight, but only when you were moving up, and then once before a stoplight. Yet you say that you are looking at everything at the scene, when you have no idea what so ever what is happening behind you (so 50% of the scene).. Brave or stupid?
Always amusing how people stand when wearing leathers lol 😂
More amusing how they squeak
Race cut one piece leathers you mean?
@@midlifebiker7424 Yep.
@@midlifebiker7424 especially the boots
Anyone who's ever worn one piece race leathers will fully understand why they stand that way.
Answer: Everywhere
Yup, even your backside as well
Dude, talk less.
moozak is pure annoyance....................
Car drivers and electronics programmers need to stop their debates on hawk-eye aiming camera.sss and just go ride a bike