Thank you for making thi video. I'm going to watch it again my bike comes tomorrow. I've already ordered a 17t sprocket and 26mm carburetor and I can't wait.
Nice work sir! Check your chain tension. Everything I have been reading leads me to believe that the suspension is bottoming out and the chain is a little too tight, therefore the frame tearing itself apart. Hope this helps.
I liked how you did an entire overhaul guide on the common problems of the boomvader. Definitely will bring awareness so I can tackle it sooner when i decide to get these grom clones. I was curious to ask one thing. At around 11:19 you discuss the brackets keep falling off and you're solution was to use JB weld of some kind. I was curious how come you hadnt used the same welding gun method to stick the fairing brackets to the gas tank?
Actually there was a few reasons.. First of all knowing that I was going to be using this video as a guide for others. I didn't want people to be welding on a gas tank because they saw me do it.. Second of all I am using flux core in my MIG welder and it doesn't do really well with thin metal. I most likely would just be melting holes in my tank.. like I said in the video though, if I could do it all over again I probably would braze weld the tabs on.
@@jaredrenfro7933 Oh I understand! It does matter what certain welding guns you have for the right job. The more I look into it the more interesting the concept of welding is lol
Good video. Man this reminds me of the Chinese pocket bikes I bought when they first came out. Stuff kept breaking right and left. I thought about one of these but this just reminds me of what I don't want to be doing. Fixing these.
Yes he did, in the video he drilled the engine mount holes in the engine to verify they are 3/8" and then he replaced the bolts with ones that are 3/8" as well
@Notamod so 3/8 (coarse or fine doesnt matter) grade 8 and long enough to thread on a nylon lock nut? Got it!👍🏼 Some people suggest welding on a washer where the hole was made bigger, to give it more structural integrity. I wonder if I'll do the same. I'll be making videos similiar to this on a new vader I got for my channel shortly.
I know this might sound kind of funny.. but what kind of weather and road conditions are in your area? How big a guy are you? And are you going in knowing that this is a project bike?
I THINK - you might have been able to build a piggy-back bracket and just bond it into place, given that you had a pretty large surface to bond it to. Hopefully save that PIA disassembly (never electric weld your bike or car directly.)
The bike no longer vibrates but when I had it new.. the exhaust rubbed up against both the frame and the oil pan bolt.. one of the biggest things that caused to vibrate was those engine mount bolts because they were way smaller than the engine mounting points.. as shown in the video... Bottom line I've got it to a place where she doesn't vibrate but it took quite the TLC.
Other than the engine mount tab (which I'm not convinced is a wide spread problem), an owner would have been better off buying a new tank and new exhaust. Would have cost less than $150 on Amazon for the better parts.
@@jaredrenfro7933 what your average fuel mileage on one of these clone? I been trying to figure out why the fuel mileage is so different between the Vader and the grom or navi. Grom from my research is about 100-130 MPG, NAVI 110 MPG and the Vader is 65 MPG. It's weird to me since it has the same engine.
So on the tank.... I think I would have rather bought An SF Grom tank. Genuine Honda parts fit on the Vaders perfectly. But nicely montaged together. Good video!
You would also have to create a port at the bottom of the tank for the carburetor to be fed fuel because the OEM tank doesn't utilize a carburetor.. when I bought this bike I was told that Honda parts would fit seamlessly.. but to be honest with you it's not as many as you would think the bikes are actually very different.
@@jaredrenfro7933 true..I hadn't thought about fi vs carb on the tank. I have a 2020 Vader (with a zs190 swap), and it's been great. I put a bunch of oe Honda parts on mine. Axles, swing arm shaft, whee bearings, rear shock, brake lines, front forks.... Still so much cheaper than a Grom and it's been a fun project to build up.
As someone who modify cars and lifts transmissions for a clutch change. I feel like these cons are so child’s play to me. Probably because anything that breaks on a car is more hassle than a motorcycle.
Wow Bro I had my Vader for 6 years and it still looks as good as the first day I got it for my Birthday I still have the same carb it came with I just put JB weld Around we're the carb screws came out and it Ride great 52 53 ish it just gets it new Back tire and new chain and rear wheel bearings and it's 6 years Old 2000.600 Miles 👌and it's a 2014 with the 2002 fearings well thanks for your video stay on 2✌🏾s
Your post literally makes no sense. "6 years old 2000." ??? Then you begin a new sentence with "600 miles and it's a 2014 with the 2002 fearings" (wtf is a fearing?) .
A brand new Grom is 3x the cost... For some people, that's just too much more. A used one is 2x. There's a market for them.. And many don't have issues of any kind.
Why? A new Grom will set you back more than $5,000 OTD. A used one around the same right now. You still have to do maintenance on it... On sale, with shipping and tax you can find a Vader or similar brand for $1,300. The worst case scenario is the engine dies. A replacement is $250. You can literally buy 10+ engines before you get to Grom cost territory.
Your patience with this bike is unmatched sir
Awesome video man. Really good to see the work it takes to make these bikes reliable enough.
Thank you for making thi video. I'm going to watch it again my bike comes tomorrow. I've already ordered a 17t sprocket and 26mm carburetor and I can't wait.
This man is a SAINT. My goodness.
Hey man, good video! You convinced me I'd rather buy a Grom and not deal with the headache 😂
The furry carpet tank cover had me rolling like whatever works huh dfl 🤣
Thank your this. I got a boom vader 10 and wanna make it last as long as I can. Saw someone with 20k miles on it lol
How many miles did you get out of it
@@austinVloggs390 currently at 2k miles
I would get some black grill paint for the exhaust it would make it look much better.
Why
How much did these repairs cost?
Nice work sir! Check your chain tension. Everything I have been reading leads me to believe that the suspension is bottoming out and the chain is a little too tight, therefore the frame tearing itself apart. Hope this helps.
I liked how you did an entire overhaul guide on the common problems of the boomvader. Definitely will bring awareness so I can tackle it sooner when i decide to get these grom clones. I was curious to ask one thing. At around 11:19 you discuss the brackets keep falling off and you're solution was to use JB weld of some kind. I was curious how come you hadnt used the same welding gun method to stick the fairing brackets to the gas tank?
Actually there was a few reasons.. First of all knowing that I was going to be using this video as a guide for others. I didn't want people to be welding on a gas tank because they saw me do it.. Second of all I am using flux core in my MIG welder and it doesn't do really well with thin metal. I most likely would just be melting holes in my tank.. like I said in the video though, if I could do it all over again I probably would braze weld the tabs on.
@@jaredrenfro7933 Oh I understand! It does matter what certain welding guns you have for the right job. The more I look into it the more interesting the concept of welding is lol
You’ve got a hard earned sub my friend!
Congrats to you that bike came to the right person well done like every bit of this video from Bermuda
Arizona gang 💪🏾
Good video. Man this reminds me of the Chinese pocket bikes I bought when they first came out. Stuff kept breaking right and left. I thought about one of these but this just reminds me of what I don't want to be doing. Fixing these.
Do you still have that template for the gas tank?
drive.google.com/file/d/1CVjhTQSk7MOrVstqGS7LBXpp_H-xW9rM/view?usp=share_link
Thank you
I have mine at 3800 miles
Is this bike just cheaply made or were these problems just bad luck?
Probably both..but they are famous for being cheaply made.
Thanks for answering, I like the looks of it!
I love how these videos are like; do this this this and this then, get out your WELDER😂
Does anyone have an idea on the length on the bolts and the hardness grade?
Wow didn't know about the cable being so hard
How many miles do you have on your bike.
Did you swap out the engine mount bolts? I’ve been trying to find the right size and having difficulty
Yes he did, in the video he drilled the engine mount holes in the engine to verify they are 3/8" and then he replaced the bolts with ones that are 3/8" as well
The bolts would just need to be long enough
@Notamod so 3/8 (coarse or fine doesnt matter) grade 8 and long enough to thread on a nylon lock nut? Got it!👍🏼
Some people suggest welding on a washer where the hole was made bigger, to give it more structural integrity. I wonder if I'll do the same. I'll be making videos similiar to this on a new vader I got for my channel shortly.
How many miles you put on it
I need to lube my cable asap.
Would this be a good bike to begin with? I'm thinking about getting one?
I know this might sound kind of funny.. but what kind of weather and road conditions are in your area? How big a guy are you? And are you going in knowing that this is a project bike?
I THINK - you might have been able to build a piggy-back bracket and just bond it into place, given that you had a pretty large surface to bond it to. Hopefully save that PIA disassembly (never electric weld your bike or car directly.)
Genius
Great vid I got the same bike do u have any vibrating issues
The bike no longer vibrates but when I had it new.. the exhaust rubbed up against both the frame and the oil pan bolt.. one of the biggest things that caused to vibrate was those engine mount bolts because they were way smaller than the engine mounting points.. as shown in the video... Bottom line I've got it to a place where she doesn't vibrate but it took quite the TLC.
@@jaredrenfro7933 thanks man appreciate I’m trying to give it that tender loving care also! Lol
That fur cover 😆 😂 Chewbaccas pit bike
How many miles did you get out of it
I have over 5 thousand miles on it..its still running but I haven't been able to ride for about a year. have you seen the "Honda Navi"?
Dude the Honda Navi has an MSRP of like $1,800 it's crazy
My exhaust broke in like a month or two. Just order a pipe of amazon.. Lil thang spit lil fire balls
lol..keep me posted on the fix!
@@jaredrenfro7933 def will
Mine did aswell one one of them I have to but it just louder and u can still ride it
@@masterpain7742 ill post up tomorrow the new pipe thats on
@@Lovelife86nj th-cam.com/video/g-SRudh8B-A/w-d-xo.html
those loose stock bolts are prolly why they vibrate so damn hard
Yep!
So basically if you can't weld you should buy a Honda or a Kawasaki?
Other than the engine mount tab (which I'm not convinced is a wide spread problem), an owner would have been better off buying a new tank and new exhaust. Would have cost less than $150 on Amazon for the better parts.
Is this the gen 2?
I bought it while the Gen-2s were coming out but it is a 1...kronic racing told me the only difference between the two is the fairings.
@@jaredrenfro7933 You might as well call them a rug because they lie like one.
@@jaredrenfro7933 what your average fuel mileage on one of these clone? I been trying to figure out why the fuel mileage is so different between the Vader and the grom or navi. Grom from my research is about 100-130 MPG, NAVI 110 MPG and the Vader is 65 MPG. It's weird to me since it has the same engine.
@@caposolomon8745 sounds about right remember the Vader is carbureted and the Grom is fuel injected.
Though I'll be honest that miles per gallon seems a little over ideal for both a Grom and a clone from my experience with both.
By any chance can you get me a link to the carb u used I keep trying to find one but mine has weird jets.
Carb link and jets used PLEASSSEEE
This is the one I have www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07Q4JM4FL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image
@@jaredrenfro7933 whats the jets used i really need this lol an thank you alot your video was very helpful
@@lorrbrad any standard vm26 jets will fit but I think even though I bought a jet kit I just used what ever came with the carb.
@@jaredrenfro7933 omg your the best thank you!!!
So on the tank.... I think I would have rather bought An SF Grom tank. Genuine Honda parts fit on the Vaders perfectly.
But nicely montaged together. Good video!
The Honda Grom is fuel injected and the boom Vader is carbureted... What would you do to seal the hole where the fuel pump goes on the Grom tank?
You would also have to create a port at the bottom of the tank for the carburetor to be fed fuel because the OEM tank doesn't utilize a carburetor.. when I bought this bike I was told that Honda parts would fit seamlessly.. but to be honest with you it's not as many as you would think the bikes are actually very different.
@@jaredrenfro7933 true..I hadn't thought about fi vs carb on the tank.
I have a 2020 Vader (with a zs190 swap), and it's been great.
I put a bunch of oe Honda parts on mine. Axles, swing arm shaft, whee bearings, rear shock, brake lines, front forks....
Still so much cheaper than a Grom and it's been a fun project to build up.
Exhaust looks absolutely terrible.
As someone who modify cars and lifts transmissions for a clutch change. I feel like these cons are so child’s play to me. Probably because anything that breaks on a car is more hassle than a motorcycle.
Great video btw. Just ordered one LOL.
Oh wow, is that ALL you had to do? LOL
Wow Bro I had my Vader for 6 years and it still looks as good as the first day I got it for my Birthday I still have the same carb it came with I just put JB weld Around we're the carb screws came out and it Ride great 52 53 ish it just gets it new Back tire and new chain and rear wheel bearings and it's 6 years Old 2000.600 Miles 👌and it's a 2014 with the 2002 fearings well thanks for your video stay on 2✌🏾s
Your post literally makes no sense. "6 years old 2000." ??? Then you begin a new sentence with "600 miles and it's a 2014 with the 2002 fearings" (wtf is a fearing?) .
Thanks for video, I'm going to pass on the boom Vader.
Great video though, you are clever.
#1 mod for your bike my friend is to lose some weight. Not saying being fat is bad but if doesn’t make you money, then why reck the bike you know?
I commend your effort, but that exhaust and tank cover are horrendous 😂
Saving the money on buying this bikes is not worth it I’ll rather buy a Honda grom and avoid all this problems
A brand new Grom is 3x the cost... For some people, that's just too much more. A used one is 2x.
There's a market for them.. And many don't have issues of any kind.
All vehicles need maintenance.
Why? A new Grom will set you back more than $5,000 OTD. A used one around the same right now. You still have to do maintenance on it...
On sale, with shipping and tax you can find a Vader or similar brand for $1,300. The worst case scenario is the engine dies. A replacement is $250. You can literally buy 10+ engines before you get to Grom cost territory.